Durham Planning Commission Feb 12, 2019

>> > > GOOD MID-DAY.'I ' D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO THE DURHAM PREPARATION COMPENSATION CONFERENCE. THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE DURHAM PLANNING PAYMENT HAVE BEEN SELECTED BY THE COMMON COUNCIL AND ALSO THE AREA BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THE ELECTED AUTHORITIES. YOU NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE CHOSEN OFFICIALS HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON ANY PROBLEM BEFORE United States TONIGHT. PLEASE GO TO THE TABLE TO MY LEFT AND SIGN UP TO SPEAK if YOU DESIRED TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT. WE HAVE A PACKED AGENDA TOIGHT. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU'' RE ENROLLING IN THE SPECIFIC ITEM YOU'' D LIKE TO SPEAK ON AND UH YOU CAN PUT DOWN YOUR NAME AS WELL AS ADDRESS AS WELL AS LET US KNOW IF YOU'' RE SPEAK EGG MORE OR

AGAINST.EACH SIDE WILL HAVE TEN MINS PER SIDE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ALSO YOUR ADDRESS PLAINLY WHEN YOU CONCERN THE PLATFORM. PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY AND ALSO INTO THE MICROPHONE. LASTLY, ALL MOTIONS ARE SPECIFIED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE SO IF A MOTION STOPS WORKING OR CONNECTIONS, THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR REJECTION. THANKS. CAN I HAVE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE? [ROLL PHONE CALL] >> > > COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS HAS ACTUALLY REQUESTED AN EXCUSED LACK. COMBHIKS MORGAN WILL BE ARRIVING LATER. COMMISSIONER MORGAN WILL CERTAINLY BE ARRIVING LATER. [ROLL PHONE CALL CONTINUED] >> > > MS. SATTERFIELD HAS RESIGNED. [ROLL CALL CONTINUED] >> > > COMMISSIONER BAKER HAS ACTUALLY ASKED FOR AN EXCUSED ABSENCE. [ROLL PHONE CALL PROCEEDED] >> > > MANY THANKS SIGNIFICANTLY. COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. >> > > I RELOCATE AN EXCUSED ABSENCE FOR COMMISSIONERS BAKER AND WILLIAMS. >> > > SECOND >>. > > APPROPRIATELY MOVED AS WELL AS SECONDED BY– MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BRINE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. ALL IN SUPPORT PLEASE SA AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU EXTREMELY MUCH. WE WILL MOVE TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AND UNIFORMITY STATEMENTS FROM OUR JANUARY 3, 2019, FULFILLING AS WELL AS JANUARY 8, 2019, MEETING. LET'' S DO THOSE AS 2 SEPARATE MOTIONS. COMMISSIONER BRINE. >> > > THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO THE SURRENDERED DRAFT THAT CAME OUT THIS MID-DAY FOR JANUARY 3RD.

I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINS AND ALSO CONSISTENCY DECLARATIONS FROM JAN third Conference AS PRESENTED. >> > > SEOND. >> > > APPROPRIATELY MOVED AS WELL AS SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN SUPPORT PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND ALSO THE JANUARY 8TH? >> > > I MOVE APPROVAL FROM JANUARY 8TH CONFERENCE AS PRESENTED. >> > > SECONDLY >>. > > MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BRINE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANKS. ADJUSTMENTS TO THE AGENDA? >> > > STAFF DOES NOT HAVE AJUSTMENTS BUT WE WISH TO SPECIFY THAT ALL PUBLIC NOTICE DEMANDS HAVE BEEN MET FOR STATE AND REGIONAL ORDINANCE AND ARE ON DATA IN PREPARATION DIVISION, AFFIDAVITS ARE ACTUALLY ON FILE. >> > > THANK YOU. LET ' S HAVE– D WE NEED A MOTION FOR TONIGHT'' S SCHEDULE? >> > I MOVE WE ADOPT PROGRAM AS PRESENT ARED. >> >

>> > SECONDLY. > > MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SALT WATER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, ALL IF SUPPORT SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OUTSTANDING. WE WILL RELOCATE TO OR FIRST THING. PUBLIC HEARINGS: COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY FUTURE LAND USAGE MAP CHANGES WITH SIMULTANEOUS ZONING MAP MODIFICATIONS. A1800006/Z1800017: 1309 JOINT ROAD. WE WILL CERTAINLY BEGIN– THANKS– WE'' LL BEGIN WITH TEAM RECORD AND ALSO THEN OPEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING. >> > > GOOD EVENING, JAMIE SUNYAK WITH THE INTENDING DIVISION AS WELL AS I WILL CERTAINLY BE PRESENTING INSTANCE NUMBER A1800006/Z1800017, 1309 JOINT ROAD. THE APPLICANT IS PAM CONCIERGE FROM TONY TATE. SITE LOCATED AT 1309 JUNCTION ROADWAY, LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY PENDING AN ANNEXATION APPLICATION. THE WEBSITE IN TOTAL IS 33.31 ACRES. THE ZONING REQUEST IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO PDR 2.702. FURTHERMORE, THERE IS A FUTURE LAND USAGE MAP CHANGE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS THE PROPOSAL IS FOR An OPTIMUM OF 90 SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND AS MENTIONED, THERE'' S A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION APPLICATION ASO SENT AS COMPONENT OF THIS DEMAND. THIS IS THE AREA MAP AS WELL AS THE TOPIC SITE SHOWN IN RED ARE.THE BUILDING

UH LIES WITHIN THE RURAL GROWTH RATE. NEUSE RIVER BASIN. FALLS/JORDAN WATERSHED SECURITY OVERLAY DISTRICT B AND ALSO PORTION IS WITHIN THE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION DOOR I 85 OVERLAY AREA. THE 33 ACRE PARCEL CONSISTS OF UNINHABITED, UNDEVELOPED LAND INCLUDING AREAS OF STREETS, RIPARIAN BARRIERS, WETLANDS AND MATURE PINES AND HARDWOODS. THESE PICTURES PROGRAM THE EXISTING WEBSITE AND ALSO SOME OF THE SURROUNDINGS. THE MAJORITY OF OF THE CHARACTERISTICS BORDERING THE WEBSITE ARE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT; HOWEVER, THERE IS AN INRALEIGH-ZONED TRACT HAD BY DURHAM AREA TO THE SOUTH.

— INDUSTRIALLY-ZONED TRACT. THIS IS THE CONTEST. AS SHOWN ON LEFT, WEBSITE IS RR AND CANDIDATE PROPOSES TO ADJUSTMENT THIS CLASSIFICATION TO HEAVEN COLOR WHICH IS THE PDR 2.702 DENSITY. AS WELL AS BELOW IS THE FUTURE LAND USAGE MAP AS SHOWN ON THE LEFT, THE HOME IS WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION AND ON THE RIGHT, IT'' S SHOWN IN THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WICH WOULD SYNCHRONIZE WITH THE REZONING REQUEST. THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS MAP GIVES THE WEBSITE ACCESS POINTS, TASK BOUNDARY BUFFERS, RIPARIAN CROSSINGS, BUILDING, AND PARKING ENVELOPES, THE TREE INSURANCE COVERAGE LOCATIONS AND THE MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. IN REGARDS TO RECAP OF SECRET COMMITTED COMPONENTS ON THE PLAN; THE PERMITTED REAL ESTATE KIND IS SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS SEPARATED RESIDENTIAL IN ADDITION TO PERMITTED ACCESSORY USES.MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE WILL CERTAINLY NOT SURPASS 70%. THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO INSTALLING SOME TRANSPORTATION-RELATED IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING A LEFT TURN LANE ON FERRELL ROADWAY AT THE RECOMMENDED SITE ENTRANCE AND ALSO ADDITIONAL ASPHALT TO ACCOMMODATE A FUTURE BIKE LANE IN ADDITION TO THE TEXT DEDICATIONS AS WELL AS THE GRAPHIC DEDICATIONS CURRENTLY DISCUSSED, THE ADVANCEMENT PLAN ALSO INCLUDES A PAIR DESIGN COMMITMENTS FOR THE ROOFING STYLES AND ALSO A SELECTION OF DIFFERENT BUILDING MATERIALS. IN TERMS OF UNIFORMITY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY AND ALSO ITS POLICIES, THE PROPOSED PDR ZONING DESIGNATION DOES NOT ABIDE WITH THE CRRENT INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE LOW THICKNESS RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION FOR THE TRACT IS CONSIST WITH THE BORDERING LAND AND ALSO FARMS PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST AND ALSO IS AN ACCEPTABLE DESIGNATION IN THE SU INTUR BAN RATE IN CONFORMITY WITH 213D. THE RECOMMENDED LW DENSITY DESIGNATION IS CONSIST WITH THE INTENDED ADVANCEMENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PERMISSIBLE WITH THE RURAL RATE, ADVERTISEMENT WE OUGHT TO NOTE WHILE [INDISCERNIBLE] MAKES USE OF ARE LIKEWISE PERMITTED WITH THE SUBURBAN TIER, PERSONNEL HAS E REVIEWED THE INDUSTRIAL LAND RESEARCH AS WELL AS IDENTIFIED THAT THIS BUILDING IS NOT A PRIME INDUSTRIAL SITE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN ITS DISTANCE TO AN EXISTING RESIDENCE ARE DEN SHALL CLASS.– RESIDENTIAL CLASS. SUPPORTED ORDERLY UH GROWTH PATTERNS AS PER POLICY 231A AND SITE IS BORDERED BY RESIDENTIAL 3.360 TO THE WEST COUNTRY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH AS WELL AS EAST, AND ALSO THERE IS EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS ROADWAYS AND WATER, SEWAGE SYSTEM, TO ACCOMMODATE THE POSSIBLE EFFECTS. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS REGULAR WITH 812. WHILE THE TRAFFIC FROM THE SUGGESTED ZONING WILL BOOST, THE APPLICANT WILL INSTALL SPECIAL LEFT BOUND TRANSFORM LANE ON FERRELL ROADWAY AT THE SITE ENTRANCE, AS WELL AS IN TERMS OF 814D, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN DEDICATES TO ADDITIONAL ASPHALT FOR THE FUTURE BIKE LANE, AND ALSO TH PROPOSED DVELPMENT IS CONSIST WITH 11.11 B, ENOUGH CAPACITY WITHIN THE COLLEGE SYSTEM TO SUIT EXTRA GROWTH.STAFF IDENTIFIES THIS DEMAND IS– THESES REQUESTS FOLLOW THE COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY AND APPROPRIATE POLICIES AND REGULATIONS AND ALSO I ' M SATISFIED TO

ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU HAE. > > THANKS. WE WILL CERTAINLY OPEN UP THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS SUBSCRIBED AND THEY ' RE SPEAKING FOR THE PROPOSITION: PAM CONCIERGE. > > GREAT EVENING. PAM DOORPERSON, 5011 SOUTH PARK DRIVE. I ' M THE CANDIDATE ON THIS FOR THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN COMPANY THAT ASSISTS PUT WITH EACH OTHER'THE GROWTH STRATEGY, SO I ' M SATISFIED TO >> ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME. > > EXCELLENT. THANKS P. > > THANKS. > > IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANT TO TALK ON THIS ITEM? I ' M NOT SEEING ANY INDIVIDUAL, SO I'WILL CLOSE THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING AND ALSO COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER >> JOHNSON >>. > > MANY THANKS. FAST CONCERN FOR MRS. PORTER REGARDING THE REQUEST.'AM I UH CORRECT BECAUSE THE MAXIMUM VARIETY OF UNITS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS WILL BE 90 DEVICES? > > CORRECT. >> > > AS WELL AS SO FOR TEAM, I WAS SIMPLY KEEPING IN MIND THAT ON THE ATTACHMENT 7 THE SUMMARY OF THE DEDICATION DOES NOT CONSIST OF THE 90, THE NUMBER 90, UNITS ON THAT PARTICULAR, AND AFTERWARDS I DIDN ' T SEE IT

>> ON THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN HERE SO I WAS SIMPLY NOTING THAT WHEN I WAS SEEING IT IN THE TEXT; IT ' S NOT IN THE– ON TH TEXT DEDICATION AS WELL AS WEBSITE STRATEGY. >'> JAMIE SUNYAK WITH THE INTENDING DIVISION. SO IF YOU CALCULATE OUT THE PROPERTY TIMES THE PROPOSED'PDR THICKNESS, THAT ' S THE MAXIMUM YOU WOULD GET. >> > > OKAY. THAT ' S SUFFICIENT FOR YOU ALL? OKAY. CURIOUS, DO YOU HAVE A FEELING OF WHAT THE COST ARRAY WOULD BE FOR THESE SINGLE HOUSEHOLD RESIDENTIAL UNITS? > > YES. GRAB'MY NOTES. THE AVERAGE COST WILL BE APPROXIMATELY $275,000. THAT ' S THE STANDARD, SO, COULD BE A LITTLE MORE, LITTLE LESS. > > THANK YOU. > > THANK >> YOU. COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. > > I UH ALSO HAVE A QUESTION. ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHEET D1, I DISCOVER THAT

>> THERE WAS An ATTRIBUTE A WHICH SEEMS TO BE POINTING AT A STREAM WETLANDS AND ALSO A FEATURE C ADDITIONALLY POINTING AT A STREAM AS WELL AS MARSH, AS WELL AS THE NOTE SAYS SEE THE NCDWG LETTER. WE DON ' T HAVE THAT LETTER IN OUR PACKAGE. CAN YOU INFORM WHAT DOES IT SAY? > > SURE. IT WAS SENT TO STAFF WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY, AND ALSO'IT ' S JUST A STREAM RESOLUTION LETTER AND IT REVEALS >> THE RESOLUTION OF WHT STREAMS HAVE BUFFERS ON THEM AND WHAT DO NOT. SO SOMETIMES THERE IS A STREAM EXISTING BUT IT ' S NOT A BUFFERED STREAM. > > OKAY. > > AS YOU TIN SEE, THERE ' S A PAIR BUFFERED STREAMS BUT A COUPLE THAT ARE NOT >>. >> > > O.K.. AND ALSO THE TROUBLE WITH THE ACTING [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> FERRELL ROADWAY WHERE YOU HAVE MORE ROOM, I BELIEVE, TO MAKE AN ENTRY FIGURE OUT IDENTIFY YOU DO HAVE DO CROSS ONE OF THESE BUFFERED STREAMS AND ALSO WETLANDS, AS WELL AS I ' M WONDERING, DID YOU PROVIDE ANY THOUGHT TO UPCOMING IN OFF OF JUNGSZ ROADWAY? > > WE DID. AS WE ' VE BEEN DEVELOPING THE FORMAT FOR THIS SITE, UH BUT IT WAS MAKING THE LINK TO >> FERRELL LOGISTICICALLY MADE EVEN MORE FEELING BASED ON THE WORKING FORMAT THAT WE HAVE, AND WE ' RE ALSO PRESERVING TREES WHERE THAT CONNECTION TO JOINT ROADWAY MAY HAVE BEEN MADE, WE ' VE ELECTED TO SAVE THAT AS TREE'SAVE; MADE EVEN MORE FEELING TO HAVE IT THERE. > > OKAY.THANK YOU. > > MANY THANKS. COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > SO I HAD THE VERY SAME QUESTION AS WELL AS I ' D LIKE TO FOLLOW-UP ON IT A LITTLE. THIS IS A CHALLENGING PROPERTY> TO GO APPEARANCE AT BECAUSE AS BIG AS >> IT IS, IT DOESN ' T >> PRESENT MUCH SIGHT FROM THE ROAD. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE DESIRABLE TO BE ABLE TO ENTER THIS HOME FROM FERRELL ROADWAY JUNCTION as well as are ROAD OR POSSIBLY MORE SUITABLE FROM JOINT ROAD BECAUSE AFTER THAT YOU WEAR ' T HAVE TO CROSS A BUFFERED STREAM, SO, I LISTENED TO WHAT YOUR CONVERSATION WITH GEORGE AS WELL AS I GET IT, BUT IT STILL SEEMS TO ME THAT IT COULD BE BETTER TO BE ABLE TO GET RIGHT INTO THIS ASSEMBLE OF PROPERTY EVEN MORE THN ONE WAY.HOWEVER, I KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT ' S 90 DEVICES, THAT DOESN ' T TRIGGER BOTH ENTRYWAY– IS THAT RIGHT, STAFF? > > INQUIRY FOR STAFF IS THE VARIETY OF UNITS, DOES THE 90 UNITS DOES NOT TRIGGER– > > IT'' S REACHED BE EVEN MORE THAN # 0. > > IT WOULD NEED TO BE EVEN MORE THAN 90 TO HAVE EVEN MORE THAN ONE ACCESS.> > > THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I ' M SORRY. I LIKEWISE WANTED TO ASK STAFF, TOO, A COUPLE OF YEARS >> BACK PERHAPS EVEN THREE, THERE WAS A PROPOSITION BY THE REGION IN THIS LOCATION TO PERFORM A REZONING OR SOME >> TYPE OF ADVANCEMENT; WAS THAT NEAR THIS ITEM OF RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? > > THERE WAS ONE– I WAS ASKING RIGHT AROUND THE MOMENT HE AS WELL AS I CHANGED WORK, YEAH, IT WAS SOUTH OF THIS WEBSITE. > > NOT TOO FAR? > > NO, JUST DOWN– IT ' S NEARBY. > > SURROUNDING. WHAT BECAME OF >> THAT? > > ITS STILL VACANT. THEY ' VE NOT FOUND An ADVANCEMENT– > > BUT THE COUNTY ' S PROEPGZ L TO CREATE AN INDUSTRIAL PARK– > > SCOTT WHITEMAN; WHAT WE UNDERSTAND FRO REGION, THEY ' >> RE NOT RELOCATING AHEAD WITH THAT TASK. > > THAT ' S THE PARCEL– HAS BOTH LARGE GAIN ACCESS TO MISTAKES >>. > > THAT ' S CORRECT. > > ALL. LET ME CHECK MY NOTES >> TRULY QUICKLY.THAT ' S AL I HAVE, THANKS. > > MANY THANKS. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER DURKIN. >> > > CONCERN ON THE GROWTH PLAN ON WEB PAGE D 2. YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL SITE ACCESS TWO AND THREE;> WHAT DOES THAT GIVE ACCESS TO IF THE COUNTY OWNS THAT'LAND AND ALSO THERE ' S NOT >> A PUBLIC STREET OR ANY ACCESS FACTOR LAND TO THE SOUTH? > > SURE. >> SO AS WE ' RE WORKING WITH THE FORMAT FOR THIS SITE, THERE ' S A WEB LINK TO NODES REQUIREMENT IN THE UDO THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN VARIETY OF LINKS TO THE'SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. AS WE ' RE WORKING THROUGH THE INTENDS, >> WE'' RE WANTING OPTIONS TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT AND ALSO WE MAY'NEED TO HAVE THE STUBS TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THEY ' RE NOT REQUIRED BUT WE ' RE LEAVING OUR OPTIONS OPEN IN INSTANCE WE'DEMAND TO USE IT AND ALSO WE'' VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF AND THEY STATED TO PROGRAM IT ON THIS JUST IN CASE WE DO DEMAND TO MAKE THOSE LINKS AS WELL AS IT ' S CALLED OUT AS OPTIONAL. > > AND YOU HAVE THE A POTENTIAL FUTURE MARSH IN'THE MIDDLE. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THAT LOOKING LIKE? > > STREET CONNECTION TO CROSS FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH COMPONENT OF THE TASK. WE ' RE STILL DEALING WITH THE

>> EXACT LAYOUT, SO THT ROAD MIGHT CHANGE A LITTLE AND WE MAY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PULL IT OUT OF THE DAMP LAFRNDS SO IT ' S NOT SET IN STONE. WE WISHED TO PROGRAM IT ON THERE IN SITUATION WE DID NED TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION'AND ALSO IT GOES ACROSS THE WETLANDS. > > CONCERN FOR PERSONNEL ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL LAND USAGE STUDY AND ALSO TIMING ON THAT PARTICULAR SINCE WE HAD A SIMILAR CONCERN CHANGING INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL LATELY. > > WE DID COMPLETE ONE IN 2013, FEW YEARS AGO, AS WELL AS WE ARE CURRENTLY> WORKING WITH ONE THAT ' S MORE EXPANSIVE AS WELL AS IT ' LL PROBABLY BE FINISHED AROUND JUNE OF THIS YEAR. > > OK. MANY THANKS. > > EXCELLENT. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? REMARKS FROM COMMISSIONERS? IF THERE ARE NONE, THIS IS THE PROPOSE TIME FOR A MOTION COMMISSIONER GIBBS. > > I UH PASS. > > GREAT. COMMISSIONER MILLER. >

>> > FOR PERSONNEL. >> IF THE PROPERTY WERE CONTINUED TO BE ZONED AS IT IS TODY, THE AMOUNT OF UNITS COULD YOU GET ON IT, ROUGHLY? WHAT ' S THE RESIDENTIAL THICKNESS FOR RR– YOU PUT ON ' T HAVE TO SOLUTION THE INITIAL QUESTION. > > JAMIE SUNYAK WITH PLNNING DIVISION. I ' M GOING TO RETHE FER TO ADD-ON– REFER TO ACCESSORY SIX AS WELL AS IT ' S CALCULATED TO BE ROUGHLY 38 SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS LOTS UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING. > > ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER MILLER. >> > > THAT ' S ALL. THANKS. THAT ASSISTS. > > THIS IS THE PROPER TIME FOR A MOTION. IDENTIFY ANY COMMISSIONER THAT IS PREPARED TO MAKE A MOVEMENT FOR AUTHORIZATION. COMMISSIONER AL-TURK.> > > I MOVE THAT WE SEND INSTANCE A 180006 TO THE CTY COUNCIL WITH A DESIRABLE SUGGESTION P. > > SECONDLY >>. > > IT ' S RELOCATED BY COMMISSIONER AL-TURK AND ALSO SECONDED B COMMISSIONER BRINE. TEAM WOULD PREFER ROLL TELEPHONE CALL VOTE? > > SURE, IF YOU WOULD DELIGHT US. >> > > WE WILL CERTAINLY DELIGHT. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. [ROLL PHONE CALL VOTE]>. >> MOTION PASSES 9-1. > > AS WELL AS THE ZONING. > > I RELOCATE WE SEND CASE Z1800017 TO THE COMMON COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE REFERRAL. > > SECOND.> > > RELOCATED BY COMMISSIONER AL-TURK AND ALSO >> SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR HYMAN. ROLL PHONE CALL VOTE, PLEASE. [> ROLL TELEPHONE CALL VOE] ACTIVITY PASSES 9-1. > > THAT YOU BELIEVE YOU SIGNIFICANTLY. WE HAVE 3 ZONING MAP CAES IN FRONT OF United States. >> BAR HRNG >>: ZONING MAP CHANGE.Z1800024 KINGS LITTLE GIRLS INN(PROCEEDED FROM JANUARY 3, 2019). WE ' LL START WITH THE PERSONNEL REPORT. > > EMILY STRUTER WITH THE PREPARING DEPARTMENT. >> Z1800024, KINGS DAUGHTERS INN HAS BEEN PROCEEDED FROM JANUARY 3RD MEETING AND ALSO NO MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE, PERSONNEL IS HERE FOR

QUESTIONS. > > I ' M NOT SEEING ANYONE ASKING FOR DUPLICATING THE POWERPOINT SO WE >> ' LL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. WE ' LL OPEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL AUTHORIZED UP TO SPEAK AND TO TALK FOR THE TASK. DEANNA CROSSMAN. > > EXCELLENT EVENING. >> 301 SOUTH ACADEMY STREET IN CARY. I ' LL BE SHORT. I SIMPLY DESIRED TO SORT OF EMPHASIZE A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE TASK. THIS IS A DEMAND TO REZONE THE KINGS DAUGHTERS INN FROM ARE PARTLY RUM, PARTLY 52 >> TO ALL OF RUM. HOUSE RAN FROM ALMOST 100 YEARS AS A HOME FOR ELDERLY– INDIGENT WOMEN. THEY HAD 34 ROOMS. WE ARE SECOND PROPRIETORS OF THE BUILDING THAT ACQUIRED IT AND ALSO APPLIED THE COVENANT ON THE ACTION AS WELL AS APPLIED FOR CITIZEN HISTORIC SITE STATUS BECAUSE WE FELT STRONGLY CONCERNING SHIELDING STRUCTURE FOR THE FUTURE.WE HAVE A MINOR SPECIAL USAGE LICENSE TO RUN AS A 17 SPACE BED AND MORNING MEAL. WE NEED TO INTENDS TO TRANSFORM THE PROPERTY TO CONDOS OR APARTMENT OR CONDOS. IT IS TO BUY AS WELL AS WE WISH TO SUPPLY ADAPTABILITY TO A FUTURE PROPRIETOR. AS A RESULT OF THE PROTECTIONS

OF THE COMMITMENTS AND ALSO THE LOCAL LANDMARK STATUS, THERE ' S ALMOST NO MODIFICATION YOU COULD MAKE TO THE WEBSITE PLAN AND FIT WITHIN THOSE LIMITS. IF CONVERTED, IT WOULD ALLOW RESIDENTIAL UNITS, SEVEN SYSTEMS FROM AROUND 25 THOUSAND 4 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. ENABLE SEVEN SYSTEMS BY RIGHT. WEBSITE ALREADY HAS ADEQUATE PARKING WITH PEVIOUS CONCRETE PARKING AREA TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. TEAM REPORT NOTES IT IS A LOWER DENSITY THAN A B AND B BECAUSE WE WERE HIGH TENANCY AND ALSO WE ' RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THE STYLE OR DENSITY DEMANDS. SEVERAL OUTREACH TO THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS. WE HOSTED TO MEETINGS AT TH KINGS DAUGHTERS BOTH IN DECEMBER AS WELL AS JANUARY, LISTED ON THE LIST OFFER, DISCUSSED REP OF FIGHT IT OUT; THEY HAD NO COCERNS. IN ENHANCEMENT TO BOTH OPEN MEETINGS WE HAD AT THE HOTEL WE ALSO WENT TO THE A LOT OF RECENT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION MONTHLY MEETING TO SOLUTION QUESTIONS AND ALLOWED FOR TWO CONTINUANCES BECAUSE THE FIRST ONE WAS SNOW, AND THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AGREEMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS LEADING THE DEAL IN LOOKING AT TRANSFER OF POSSESSION FROM KINGS LITTLE GIRL TO E EITHER PRESERVATION DURHAM OR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH, KINGS DAUGHTERS WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT ON MARCH 25th. THIS IS TYPE OF IN PARALLEL TO THAT. PRIMARY CONCERNS WE SPOKE WITH NEIGHBORS: COULD IT BE LOOKED TO TRAINEE REAL ESTATE? NO, COVENANT IN THE ACT PREVENTS THAT. THE PRICE.DOESN ' T PERMIT THE VALUABLE OF DORMS. CANISTER IT BE TORN DOWN? NO, ASO A COMMITMENT THAT SAYS IT CANISTER ' T BE TORN DOWN. WE ARE CURRENTLY 10 YEARS RIGHT INTO THE AGREEMENT SO IF SOMEONE DID MODIFY OUTSIDE OR WISH TO TEAR IT DOWN, THEY WOULD OH 50%OF THE BACK TIRES TO ENSURE THAT ' S A BIG NUMBER AND ALSO EXPANDING ANNUALLY TO ENSURE THAT ' S A RATHER HEFTY FINANCIAL DISCOURAGEMENT FROM AFFECTING THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.OUR PARENT COMPANY IS GOING THROUGH PHASE 11 THAT DOES NOT AFFECT ANYTHING OFFER FOR SALE, OPERATIONS, EVERY LITTLE THING IS GOING AS PLANNED. SATISFIED TO TAKE ANY CONCERNS. > > MANY THANKS EXTREMELY MUCH. WE ' LL SEE IF THERE ' S ANY PERSON ELSE WHO INTENDS TO TALK AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT WE MAY ALL YOU BACK UP. ANY INDIVIDUAL ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE, WE ' LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.COMMISSIONERS, BEGIN TO MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. > > I UH WASN ' T ABLE TO DISCOVER ANY NOTES I HAD– WAS THIS CONTINUATION LIKE DONE– DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC ON THIS LAST TIME? WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM WITH IT BEING PROCEEDED. > >'THAT ' S An EXCELLENT INQUIRY AND OTHER COMMISSIONERS ENSURE I GET THIS CORRECT. THIS WAS INITIALLY ON THE DECEMBER CONFERENCE WHICH WAS CANCELLED BECAUSE OF SNOW STORM. JANUARY CONFERENCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH HAD ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL TIME GIVEN TH NOTICE HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS FOR THEIR NASH HOOD ORGANIZATION TO HAVE TIME FOR THEIR COMMITTEE TO SATISFY AND ALSO THE APPLICANT WAS KIND ENOUGH TO CONSENT TO OUR REQUEST TO PROCEED IT.SOUNDS LIKE THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN ALE TO HAPPEN >> BASED ON HEARING THIS NIGHT. > > ALL. > > ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > I ' M GOOD, THANKS. > > COMMISSIONER MILLER. COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. > > QUICK COMMENT THAT I WENT TO TRINITY PARK MEETING LATELY AND EVERY PERSON SEEMED HELPFUL OF DOING THIS SO THERE ' S NO OPPOSITION TO THAT. > > THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > I WANTED TO ADHERE TO UP. WHEN THIS CAME PRIOR TO US LAST TIME I DISCUSSED THAT I BELIEVE THAT THAT AN ORGANIZATION OF WHICH I SERVE MANAGEMENT DUTY MIGHT HAVE HAD AN INTEREST IN THIS BUILDING. THAT WAS INCORRECT. E LIMITING COMMITMENTS >> REMAIN IN FAVOR >> OF THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND NOT> IN FAVOR OF CONSERVATION >> DURHAM. I UNDERSTOOD WE HAD A DATA ON >> IT AS WELL AS I RECOGNIZED IT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BUT THEY ACTUALLY DIDN ' T– THEY WENT A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WITH THOSE POINTS. >> I HAVE A PAIR QUESTIONS> FOR DEANNA IF THAT ' S OKAY. > > MANY THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. YOU MAY. > > SO I DON ' T WAT TO ENTER YOUR ORGANIZATION BUT SINCE YOU MADE– IS THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY BASED ON THE INSOLVENCY? > > YES. > > IF NO SELL YOU ' LL HAVE TO OBTAIN APPROVAL OF THE COURT? > > YES. > > EXTREMELY GREAT. I BELIEVE YOU CLAIMED MAYBE SEVEN SYSTEMS? SEEMS SMALL, THE PROPERTY IN MY MIND IS A HUGE ONE. > > 2 THIRDS OF AN ACRE,.63. > > STRUCTURE, ITSELF. > > 25,000 SQUARE FEET. THAT ' S WHY THEY WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT-SIZED APARTMENT OR CONDO. >> THE ATTIC ROOM APARTMENT HAS TO DO WITH FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND ALSO LISTED BELOW THE WAY IT WOULD DIVIDE UNIFORMLY CLEARS UP BENT ON 7. ONE APARTMENT PER FLOOR AND AFTERWARDS ORIGINAL STRUCK COULD BE 2 PER FLOOR AND ALSO

>> IT OCCURRED TO BE SEVEN WOULD MAY BY RIGHT SO IT RESOLVES OUT. > > >> NO ONE UNDERSTANDS THAT STRUCTURE BETTER THAN YOU DO. IS IT PRACTICALLY VIABLE TO CONVERT IT INTO SEVEN RESIDENTIAL UNITS? > > IT ' S REALLY QUITE SIMPLE THE METHOD WE BUILT IT OUT WITH >> THE HOTEL AREAS THERE >> ' S NO SO MUCH PIPES'AS WELL AS UNITS, YES. > > IF THIS REZONING WAS NOT GRANTED, HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE TO FIND SOMEBODY ELSE TO RUN IT AS AN INN LIKE YOU HAVE RUN IT? > > ACTUALLY I CAN INFORM YOU OF THE BUYERS WE HAVE LOOKING, BOTH MORE THAN LIKELY PROSPECTS ARE CONTINUING CHOICE OF B AND ALSO B, THEY ' RE ALSO CURIOUS ABOUT VERSATILITY FOR THE FUTURE.IT ' >> S A WONDERFUL STRUCTURE AS IS. NEVER KNOW WHAT ' S GOING TO HAPPEN. > > THOSE ARE MY INQUIRIES, THANKS >>. >'> MANY THANKS.

> > SURROUNDING. > > ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? > > EXTREMELY EXCELLENT. > > 2 THIRDS OF AN ACRE,.63. > > BUILDING, ITSELF.COMMISSIONER GIBBS. >> > > I UH JUST HAVE A COMMENT REGARDING THE KINGS LITTLE GIRLS INN AND THE SERVICE THAT'' S BEEN OFFERED OVER TH YEARS TO CLIENTS AND ALSO THEIR FAMILIES AT BATTLE EACH OTHER MEDICAL CENTER AND NO TELLING IN WHICH ELSE, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IMPLIES A WHOLE LOT TO ME BECAUSE I KNOW HOW THAT CIRCUMSTANCE IS, BUT I UH SIMPLY INTENDED TO THANKS, YOUR STAFF, FOR PROVIDING THAT SERVICE.IT ' S NOT FREE, BUT IT ' S GREATLY-REDUCED'COST, BUT IT ' S, WELL, IT'' S SIGNIFICANTLY VALUED BY THOSE THAT HAVE HAD TO USAGE IT AND ALSO I'' M SURE INDIVIDUALS HAVE COME BACK FOR A GOD TIME TOO. >> > > ABSOLUTELY. WELL, MANY THANKS. >> > >'IT ' S A FANTASTIC LOCATION. > > AYE BEEN THERE FOR 17 YEARS, WE LOVE BEING AN ASSET AS WELL AS I HOPE IT REMAINS TO BE AN ASSET. ALL MY PERSONNEL DESIRES TO REMAIN THERE, SO WE'' RE HOPE IT ' LL CONTINUE AS A RESORT.

>> > > THANK YOU, MA ' AM >>. > > THANK YOU > > MANY THANKS, COMMISSIONER GIBBS. I ALSO DID JUST INTEND TO SAY THANK UH YOU FOR YOUR FLEXIBILITY AD PATIENCE. THE ACT OF GOD IN DECEMBER AND ALSO AFTER THAT THE ACT OF THE INTENDING COMMISSION IN JANUARY. IT'' S VALUED. >> > > THAT ' S NOT [INDISTINCT] >> > >'IT ' S CONSTANTLY NICE WHEN WE CAN PUT IN THE TIME FOR NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS TO HAVE INPUT AS WELL AS YOU'' VE BEEN GRACIOUS AND ALSO IT SETTLED I THINK.WE APPRECIATE

THAT. I BELIEVE IT'' S APPROPRIATE TIME MUCH MOVEMENT FOR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL. >> > > IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> > > DARN IT. >> > > YOU MAY. > > I MOVE THAT WE SEND CASE Z1800024 WORRYING THE KINGS LITTLE GIRLS INN ONWARD TO THE COMMON COUNCIL WITH A DESIRABLE RECOMMENDATION. >> > > SECONDLY >>. > > MOVED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HORNBUCKLE. ROLL TELEPHONE CALL VOTE, PLEASE. [ROLL TELEPHONE CALL BALLOT] >> > > MOVEMENT PASSES 10-0. >> > > MANY THANKS. TRANSFER TO NEXT ITEM. Z1800019 ODYSSEY TOWNES. THANK YOU. WE'' LL BEGINNING WITH TEAM REPORT >>. > > EMILY STRUTHERS WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.PRESENTING SITUATION Z1800019, ODD DI TOWNS. ODYSSEY TOWNES. THE APPLICANT IS GARY WALLACE. 26.85 ACRE WEBSITE COMPRISES THREE WHOLE LOTS SITUATED AT 3500 AND ALSO 3614 NC-55 HIGHWAY, AND 5221 PENRITH DRIVE. THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO ALTER THE ZONING FROM MALL AND ALSO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL WITH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN 8 WITH An ADVANCEMENT PLAN. THE BUILDING IS ASSIGNED COMMERCIAL, ENTERTAINMENT AND OPEN AREA AND LOW-MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL ON THE MAP WHICH FOLLOWS THE ZONING REQUEST.THE PROPOSAL CONSISTS OF A MECHANICS MUM OF 10,000 SQUARE

FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND OPTIMUM OF 190 MULTIFAMILY SYSTEMS. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE CANDIDATE HAS REDUCED VARIETY OF UNITS FROM 210 TO 10 UNITS. DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY HAS BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT THIS THOUGH IT ' S NOT IN YOUR PACKAGE. THE SITE IS SHOWN IN RED LOCATED OFF OF NC-55 HIGHWAY IN SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT TIER. THE WEBSITE IS VOE KANLT AND ALSO LARGELY VEGETATED WITH WOODS AS WELL AS PINE AND EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENT AND ALSO DRIVEWAY LOCATED IN NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE AND ALSO NORTHEAST CREEK RUNS ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SITE.SITE IS SURROUNDING TO MIX OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, UNINHABITED COMMERCIAL LAND AS WELL AS INDUSTRIAL USES.

THE WEBSITE IS PRESENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL FACILITY, CC, AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY. THERE IS NO EXISTING GROWTH PLAN RELATED TO THIS WEBSITE. THE CANDIDATE PROPOSED TO MODIFICATION THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL WITH A DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY, AND ALSO RESIDENTIAL SU UH BURR BAN EIGHT WITH A GROWTH STRATEGY. COUNTRY EIGHT WITH DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BUILDING CLASSIFICATION COMMERCIAL, ENTERTAINMENT OPEN ROOM AND LOW-MEDIUM THICKNESS RESIDENTIAL ON FUTURE LAND USE MAP. YOU ' LL KEEP IN MIND THE SECTION OF RS # IS ALIGNING WITH THE VERY SMALL PART OF LOW-MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON THE FUTURE LAND USAGE MAP WHICH IS DIFFICULT TO SEE. IT ' S IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. PROPOSED PROBLEMS. DWAEMENT STRATEGY SUPPLIES WEBSITE ACCESS POINTS, CONSTRUCTING AND ALSO PARKING ENVELOPES, TREE PRESERVATION AS WELL AS PROJECT BOUNDARY RU BUFFERS.SUMMARY OF SECRET COMMITMENTS CONSISTS OF SUGGESTED DEVELOPMENT WILL CERTAINLY HAVE OPTIMUM OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS MAXIMUM OF 190 MULTIFAMILY DEVICES. NO

SYSTEMS ARE RECOMMENDED WITHIN THE RS-8-ZONED LOCATION. TRANSPORTATION RENOVATIONS TO BE OFFERED INCLUDE BUS PULLOUT AS WELL AS SANCTUARY, BIKE LANE AND ALSO WEB TRAFFIC SIGNAL. 100 FOOT GREENWAY EASEMENT SHALL BE DEDICATED AND DESIGN SPECIFY SLOPED ROOFING SYSTEMS, FRONT-FACES GABLES AS QUALITY. SUGGESTED CGD AS WELL AS R ARE S 8 D DESIGNATION ABIDES WITH CLASSIFICATION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND MRIKABLE PLANS, CONSIST WITH PLAN 222E, 231A, 232 A, 814 B, 1111A. PERSONNEL DETERMINE THIS IS FOLLOWS DETAILED PLAN AND OTHER PLANS AS WELL AS REGULATIONS. TEAM AVAILABLE FOR QUSTIONS. > > THANKS. WE WILL OPEN UP THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING AND AS WITH PREVIOUS CASES WE HAVE ONE PERSON SUBSCRIBED TO PROMOTE– APPRECIATE THIS WHILE IT LASTS– MR. JARROD> EDENS. > > EXCELLENT EVENING. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. JARED EDENS WITH EDENS LAND. I VALUE THE RECAP BY TEAM AS WELL AS I INTEND TO TOUCH ON HIGH POINTS.THIS IS SA GOOD POSSIBILITY >> FOR DURHAM. APPEARANCE AT LOCATION, YOU ' RE TEN MINUTES TO DOWNTOWN, 10 MINS TO 40 AND ALSO RTP. IT ' S ALONG CORRIDOR THAT P HAPPENS TO HAVE GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE ABILITY. THEY ' VE GOT WATER AS WELL AS DRAIN, A LOT OF ROADWAY ABILITY SO IT CONTAINER TAKE CARE OF THE THICKNESS WE THEED. IT'ALSO INCLUDES TO A BLEND OF REAL ESTATE MAKES USE OF. BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS 55 THERE WAS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE HOUSEHOLD, BUT WE ' VE NOD GOT APARTMENT COMPLEXES UPCOMING SO IT CONTRIBUTE TO MIX OF HOUSING WE REQUIREMENT. TEAM STATED PUTTING A SIGNAL IN. WE DIDN ' T NEED TO DO A TIA BUT WE'WERE MADE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT SUBSTANTIAL ACCIDENT BACKGROUND AT CROSSWAY SO MY CLIENT WAS GOING TO SET UP SIGNAL THERE.WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD CONFERENCE AS WELL AS NO OPPOSITION THAT I ' M FAMILIAR WITH. RIGHT HERE TO SOLUTION CONCERNS. > > ANY INDIVIDUAL ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PRODUCT? NOT SEEING ANYONE SO WE ' LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS, REMARKS? COMMISSIONER DURKIN. > > INQUIRY FOR >> THE CANDIDATE. PAIR QUESTIONS. DO YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT IF THESE WILL BE LEASING. > > THEY ' RE FOR-SALE. > > COST FACTOR? > > 220s-230s and afterwards UP. > > TOWNHOMES JUST, NO >> ANY APARTMENTS? > > ALL TOWNHOUSES WITH ONE LITTLE COMMERCIAL EDGE THAT ' S BEING OFFERED FOR FLEXIBILITY BUT I'DON ' T THINK COMMERCIAL ' S GOING >> TO GET DEVELOPED BECAUSE ONNER. >> > IN THE NORTHEAST EDGE. > > PROBABLY THE> WEBSITE WILL CERTAINLY BE– FROM TALKING TO NEIGHBORS, THEY DON ' T HAVE A NEED FOR COMMERCIAL THERE.THEY LET United States KNOW IT DIDN ' T ISSUE TO THEM'SO PROBABLY IT ' LL B ALL TOWNHOMES. >> SOMETIMES CIRCUMSTANCES CONTAINER ADJUSTMENT IN >> THE FUTURE SO WE WANTED SOME KIND OF FLEXIBILITY. > > WOULD THIS ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY TO PERFORM MULTIFAMILY? > > OUR ONLY ALTERNATIVES ARE TOWNHOMES AND ALSO COMMERCIAL CORNER. > > THE VARIOUS OTHER CONCERN I HAD CONCERNING THE GREENWAY EASEMENT. IT CLAIMS IT ' S TO BE DETERMINED BUT THEN ON DVELOPMENT STRATEGY IT HAS A KEEP IN MIND OF A EASEMENT FOR THE CITY RECORDED AT> A DETAILS PUBLICATION AND WEB PAGE. I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE VIDEOTAPED DOCUMENT> REQUIRED OF YOU OR OF YOUR CUSTOMER. > > THE NOTE WAS REQUESTED BY PARKS AND ALSO REC REGARDING BEING WORDED BY DOING THIS. I CAN NOT TELL YOU WHAT THAT RECOMMENDATION IS. > > DO YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT THE NEED REMAINS IN GUIDE AND ALSO PAGE DOCUMENT? > > I CAN ' T SPEAK PARTICULARLY TO THE REQUIREMENT BUT GENERALLY IT ' >> S THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THOSE FOR THE CAPACITY TO REQUEST THAT EASEMENT AND ALSO WHAT IS CONSISTED OF BECAUSE EASEMENT.I DN ' T KNOW THE SPECIFICS. > > MANY THANKS. > > COMMONLY AS PLANS GET EVEN MORE IN-DEPTH WE DEAL WITH PARKS AND ALSO REC TO FUNCTION WHERE THE EASEMENT WILL GO. > > OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > YOU ' RE NOT ACTUALLY COMMITTING TO DOWNTOWN HOMES AND YOU COULD SWITCH TO SOME OTHER TYPE'OF RESIDENTIAL ADVANCEMENT THAT ' S ALLOWED IN THE CG? > > YEAH, I PRESUME, TECHNICALLY IT DOES SAY MULTIFAMILY UNITS BUT THE OBJECTIVE IS TOWNHOMES. > > THANKS P. I JUST WISHED TO ENSURE THAT WHEN WE >> ELECTED YOU UNDERSTOOD IT WAS BROADER THAN SIMPLY THE MENTIONED TOWNHOUSES. > > YOU ' RE RIGHT. > > COMMISSIONER KENCHEN. > > INQUIRY FOR'APPLICANT. SECTION OF 55 AND ALSO ODYSSEY, THAT ' S A MISHAP SPOT, YOU STATED THAT EARLIER. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO ACCOMPLISH TO ALLEVIATE THAT CONCERN? I TIN PICTURE GOING TO WORSEN WITH THIS ADDITION. > > SIGNAL IN FOR ONE. THAT SIGNAL WILL CERTAINLY FEATURE IT MARKINGS FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AS PART OF THE >> ENTIRE SIGNAL PACKAGE. >> I ASSUME THAT INTERSECTION WILL CERTAINLY IMPROVE A FAIR BIT WITH THAT SAID. > > EXTRA INQUIRIES? COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. > > INQUIRY FOR TEAM. ON THE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY THERE ' S A REZONING SITUATION TO THE SOUTH OF THE PARCEL;> DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT ' S– > > SCHEDULED, I THINK, FOR NEXT MONTH. THAT IS ELEVATE AT THE PARK. I TIN NOT KEEP IN MIND THE DETAILS REQUEST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.THE CANDIDATE MAY BE ABLE TO ASSIST ME WITH >> THE SPECIFICS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT. >> > > WE ' RE HANDLING THAT ZONING TO THE SOUTH ALSO. THE PREPARE FOR THAT PARCEL IS APARTMENTS. > > MANY THANKS P. > > BRINE. > > THE APPLICANT HAS> CURRENTLY AVOIDED TO THE REALITY THAT HE DIDN ' T THINK COMMERCIAL MAY GO ON THE EDGE THERE AND I OFTEN TEND TO AGREE WITH HIM.

IF YOU LOOK FROM CORNWALLIS ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO I 40, CORNWALLIS ROADWAY ARE AND ALSO MIRROR TER> ROAD HAVE NODES ALREADY HAVE A BIT OF COMMERCIAL THERE BUT THERE ' S BEEN TURN OVER >>, MATTERS THAT STOPPED WORKING>, SOME REDEVELOPMENT HAPPENING. I EXPECT THAT WE MAY SEE ALL RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THIS'PROPERTY.WHAT I WOULD REALLY UH LIKE TO SEE, THOUGH, IS ROAD USING GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING TO SPECIFY, I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THE FLUM CHANGED TO PUT A RESIDENTIAL ON THE FLUM AND AFTER THAT A RESIDENTIAL ZONING ON THE PROPERTY. THAT ' S SIMPLY MY PERSONAL OPINION ON THE'MATTER. > > THANK YOU. EXTRA COMMENTS/QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS. > > CONTAINER I FOLLOW-UP ON THE QUESTION TO STAFF? > > COMMISSIONER MILLER.

> > WITH THIS GROWTH PLAN DRAWN AS IT IS RESERVING 10,000 SQUARE FEET FOR COMMERCIAL AND ALSO THE 190 UNITS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WILL BE ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH A GROWTH PLAN, AFTER REZONING IS ACCEPTED YOU ' RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD THOSE UNITS AND ALSO YOU COULD INCLUDE> AS MUCH AS 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU WOULDN ' T HAVE THE ABILITY TO >> ENTER AND BUILD A SHOPPING MALL? >> > > CORRECT. >> > > SO THE NAMES OF THE ZONING WE ' RE USING ARE A LITTLE COUNTERINTUITIVE TO THE USE PUBLIC RELATIONS MITTED BY THE CODE. > > CORECT. > > COMMISSIONER GIBBS. > > An INQUIRY THAT COMMISSIONER DURKIN WAS TALKING ABOUT ABOUT PARKS'AS WELL AS REC AS WELL AS I GUESS THE CANDIDATE COULD ALSO HAVE INPUT. I COMPLETELY MISSED OUT ON THAT. IS PARKS AND ALSO REC PREPARATION SOMETHING RIGHT HERE OR DOES IT INVOLVE– IS MY MIKE ON– IT >> IS ON NOW.

>> ANYHOW, WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH PARKS AND REC IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS CONVERSATION? > > I THINK THAT ' >> S A CONCERN FOR YOU MR.EDENS. > > IT ' S REALLY> LIMITED TO SIMPLY THE EASEMENT DEVOTION, THAT ' S IT. THERE WILL BE NO ROUTE BUILDING WITH THE SITE STRATEGY. THE NODE IS STANDARD NODE, LEGAL PHRASING THEY LIKE TO SEE. AS FAR AS PARKS AS WELL AS REC INVOLVEMENT, WHEN WE DETERMINE EXACT CORRIDOR, ONCE THAT ' S TAPED, THAT ' S BASIC THINK DEGREE OF IT. > > I WONDERED AS TO WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING TO >> DO. I RECOGNIZE I CAN'ALWAYS TELEPHONE CALL THEM, BUT WHILE I

' VE >> GOT INDIVIDUAL THAT LEARN ABOUT ALL OF IT RIGHT HERE– BUT ANYWAY, THAT'' S EXTENT OF MY QUESTIONS. THANKS. > > THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. > > COMMISSIONER GIBBS, I THINK PART OF THE SOLUTION IS THAT THE GREENWAY EASEMENT IS A DEMAND OF THE CITY ' S GREENWAYS AS WELL AS OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN. >> > > THANK YOU, SIR. THAT DOES ANSWER MY INQUIRY. > > SEEING NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONVERSATION, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I ' M GOING TO COMBIF YOU THE CHANCE TO MAKE THE ACTIVITY. [LAUGHTER] > > I ' LL TAKE MY >> SECOND BEST CHOICE. I MOVE THAT WE SEND FOURTH INSTANCE Z1800019 TO THE CITY BOARD WITH A POSITIVE SUGGESTION. > > SECOND. > > RELOCATED BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND ALSO SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. WE ' LL HAVE A ROLL PHONE CALL VOTE, PLEASE. [ROLL TELEPHONE CALL VOTE] > > ACTIVITY PASSES 9-1. > > THANKS. WE WILL TRANSFER TO OUR FINAL ZONING MAP CHANGE OF THE EVENING. Z1800031: 707 MOREHEAD >> METHOD. I WILL CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER DURKIN. J I STAY IN THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THIS ISSUE SO I ' LL RECUSE MYSELF. I ' LL BE BACK.

>> > > I MOVE WE RECUSE COMMISSIONER DURKIN FROM THIS INSTANCE. > > SECOND. > >'MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BRINE AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR HYMAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THANKS. WE WILL CERTAINLY BEGIN WITH THE PERSONNEL RECORD. > > JAMIE SUNYAK WITH TE PLANNING DIVISION PRESENTING SITUATION Z1800031, 707 MOREHEAD AVENUE.THE CANDIDATE IS ROBERT SHUNK OF STEWART. PROPERTY IS LOCATED BLOCK OF MOREHEAD OPPORTUNITY, VICK KERS OPPORTUNITY, PROCTER STREET AND SHEPHERD STREET LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITATIONS WITHIN EVEN MORE >> HE ' >> D HIS TROSHG DISTRICT, 2.88 ACRES. THE WEBSITE WAS THE TOPIC OF A LEGACY ZONING INSTANCE P 86-35. CANDIDATE LOOKS FOR A REZONING TO ALLOW ALL UTILIZES WITHIN THE RU-5 (2)ZONING DISTRICT. NO CHANGE TO THE FUTURE LAND USAGE MAP DESIGNATION WHICH IS CURRENTLY TOOL DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THE AERIAL MAP SHOWS THE BUILDING HIGH LIGHTED IN RED. IT ' S SITUATED WITHIN THE URBAN RATE, AS WELL AS WITHIN THE CAPE CONCERN RIVER CONTAINER. THESE PICTURES DEPICT THE WEBSITE AND SEVERAL OF THE LOCATION PROBLEMS. THE DURHAM COMMON COUNCIL APPROVED A ZONING MAP ADJUSTMENT AND ALSO DEVELOPMENT PREPARE FOR THE SITE ON JULY 28TH, 1986. THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN LIMITED THE UTILIZES TO TEAM RESIDENCES, A GROUP CENTER, RECREATION FACILITY AND ADMINISTRATIVE STRUCTURE. SEVERAL OF THE BUILDINGS ARE SHOWN IN THE PHOTOS. ALSO SHOWN ARE PROPERTIES ABUTTING THE WEBSITE THAT INCLUDE COLLEGES, EXPERT WORKPLACES, AND RESIDENTIAL MAKES USE OF. THE ZONING MAP CONTEXT MAP SHOWS THE ZONING. AS YOU TIN SEE ON THE LEFT AND ALSO THE RIGHT, THERE IS NO MODIFICATION; HOWEVER, THE CANDIDATE AS MENTIONED IS LOOKING TO EXPAND THE PERMITTED MAKES USE OF YORND WHAT IS SPECIFIED IN THE ' 86 ADVANCEMENT PLAN AND ALSO PER AREA 3512A 8 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT REGULATION, ANY MOMENT SHOWN ON THE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY ARE THOUGHT ABOUT SUBSTANTIAL DISCREPANCY AS WELL AS REQUIRE THE WHOLE STRATEGY TO BE RESUBMIT FOR A ZONING MAP CHANGE.IN TERMS OF UNIFORMITIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY AND PLANS, THE TEXT COMMITMENT AS SHOWN ON ACCESSORY FIVE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN EVALUATED BY PERSONNEL AND FOUND TO BE DETERMINED FOUND TO BE CONSIST WITH THE UDO DEMANDS. TEAM FIGURES OUT THESE REQUESTS ARE REGULAR WITH THE 'COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY AND OTHER EMBRACED REGULATIONS AS WELL AS POLICIES, AND I ' M PLEASED TO SOLUTION QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. > > MANY THANKS. WE WILL CERTAINLY OPEN UP THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE JOINED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT; KEN SPAULDING AS WELL AS GEORGE STANZ SHOUT. > > I ' M KEN SPAULDING PORTRAYING THE CANDIDATE. IT ' S 2 POINT # 8 ACRES IN DURHAM ' S URBAN RATE. 1986, THIS HOME WAS REZONED WITH An ADVANCEMENT PLAN WHICH LIMITED ITS RESIDENTIAL USES TO PRIMARILY A MIND REHABILITATION CENTER AND ALSO IT ' S PURPOSES.THE CENTER HAS BEEN SHUT FOR APPROXIMATELY 3 YEARS. IT IS PRESENTLY VACANT, AN WILL CERTAINLY REQUIRED TO BE TENDED TO. >> OUR PROPOSAL TODAY IS ONLY TO GET RID OF TEXT RESTRICTIONS FOR THE UNINHABITED BRAIN FACILITY AND ALSO TO FOLLOW EXISTING UNDERLYING ZONING CLASSIFICATION. THE HOME WILL REMAIN >> RESIDENTIAL WITH 17 TOWNHOUSES AND ALSO EXISTING STRUCTURES. MR. STANZ Y ' ALL OF STEWART WILL CERTAINLY DESCRIBE LAND PLANNING ASPECTS OF IT AND ALSO UTILIZES FOR A FEW OF THE CURRENT EXISTING FRAMEWORKS. DEVELOPER HAS MET WITH DIFFERENT STAGES FOR OVR A YEAR AS WELL AS WE DID NOT HAVE TO HAVE An AREA MEETING BUT WE ALSO FELT WE WISHED TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. WE SENT OUT NOTICES OF 600-FEET SPANS FROM THE BUILDING INCLUDED AND HAD EXCELLENT AND WORTHWHILE CONFERENCE. WE DO FEEL THAT THIS IS An APPROPRIATE ARE TRANSITION. WHEN WE APPEARANCE AT THE LOCATION, SOME OF IT IS OI AND ALSO INSTITUTION AND ALSO OTHER FACETS OF IT AND WE FEELING THAT THIS SUGGESTED DEELOPMENT IN THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION WILL CERTAINLY BE A REMARKABLE PROPERTY FOR DURHAM COMMUNITY AS WELL AS FOR THAT LOCATION.MR. STANZ Y ' ALL WILL PROVIDE United States EVEN MORE INFORMATION. WE WERE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE DURHAM HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMPENSATION, AND HE WILL CERTAINLY GET INVOLVED IN A FEW OF THAT TO EXPLAIN THE DETAIL THAT THIS SPECIFIC JOB HAS BEEN YOU THIS EVENING. > > MANY THANKS. DEAF > > GEORGE STANZ Y ' ALL, PRESIDENT P AND ALSO SUPERVISOR OF LAYOUT AT STEWART, 115 COPEFIELD CIRCLE IN DURHAM.IEL, HEAD OF STATE P AND ALSO SUPERVISOR OF DESIGN AT STEWART, 115 COPEFIELD CIRCLE IN DURHAM. I ' VE SEEN YOU A LARGE AMOUNT OF SPECIFIC INFO IN THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS SO I ' LL TRY TO BE QUICK. AS MR. SPAULDING SUGGESTED TO, WE ' RE NOT CHANGING ZONING DISTRICT, WE ' RE NOT ANY TRAFFIC, NONE STUDENTS, NOT CHANGING RATE, NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES, PRIMARILY ADDING MESSAGE ALL RESIDENTIAL USES ALLOWED IN RU 5 AREA, SIMILAR TO MOREHEAD HILL NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY, OUR NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST. BEYOND THE INSTITUTIONAL >> USAGE THAT ' S BEEN IN PLACE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU IN SOME OF MY E E-MAILS, WE ' RE BRINGING ONWARD TO THE CITY IN ANOTHER UNIQUELY-DESIGNED IN FILL JOB IN URBAN RATE THAT ' S WALKABLE TO MIDTOWN, WE ' LL CREATE WONDERFUL STREETSCAPES WITH ON-STREET PARKING, STREET TREES, LAND KAIP AND LIGHTING AS WELL AS WE ' LL PRESERVE AND ALSO ENHANCE THE TWO HISTORICALLY-KIG CANT HOMES. I THINK COMMISSIONER MILL SER ACQUAINTED WITH THOSE RESIDENCES THERE. THAT CLAIMED, WE HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED UNANIMOUSLY BY AND OBTAINED BY THE HISTORIC COMMISSION AND GOT OUR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.THIS AUTHORIZATION ENTAILED AN EXTENSIVE APPLICATION AND ALSO ARE TESTIMONIAL PROCEDURE THAT INCLUDED REALLY DETAILS WEBSITE PREPARES, GAIN ACCESS TO

THINGS, STRUCTURE ELEVATIONS, LANDSCAPE DESIGN, WRITING, PAVING MATERIALS, OPEN SPACES, AND PRIVATE COURT YARDS. ADDITIONALLY, AUTHORIZATION INCLUDES EXISTING AND ALSO RECOMMENDED STRUCTURE ALTITUDES'WHICH WE CONSIDERED IN WHICH WE CONSIDERED ARCHITECTURAL INCLUDES FROM THE HOUSES THAT EXIST IN MOREHEAD'HILL COMMUNITY. MATERIALS AND ILLUMINATION. THIS ALSO CONSISTS OF IMPROVEMENT OF THE TWO EXISTING HISTORIC HOMES AS WELL AS AS EXPLAINED TO YOU, THE KEY HOME WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN POSITION BUT WILL CERTAINLY BECOME 2 DEVICES AND ALSO RESTORED BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL ELEVATIONS AS WELL AS SO FORTH.THERE ARE SOME APPENDAGES THAT WERE ADDED

ON AT SOME FACTOR IN TIME THAT WILL BE REMOVED. IT WILL BE RESTORED. THERE ' S AN EXISTING HOUSE THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE RELOCATED TO THE GUARD ROAD SIDE. THE FACTOR WE ' RE DOING THAT IS WE FELT LIKE THE EXISTING HOUSE T LOCAL SOLITARY HOUSEHOLD RESIDENTIAL HOUSE RELATE BETTER TO THE EXISTING AREA ACROSS THE ROAD AS OPPOSED TO THE OI DISTRICT ON THE VARIOUS OTHER SIDE, ON THE EAST SIDE.THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR JOB WILL BE GUIDED BY APPROVED CERTIFICATE OF SUITABILITIES AS WELL AS ANY CHANGES WOULD DEMAND TO BE AUTHORIZED BY HISTORIC PAYMENT. THIS REZONING, WHILE WE ' RE NOT MAKING DEVOTED COMPONENTS TO THOSE ALL OF THOSE FEATURES, WE ' RE HELD REALLY STRICTLY VIA SIGNIFICANT COLLECTIONS OF VERY SPECIFIC INTENDS AS WELL AS ELEVATIONS FOR

THE RESIDENCES. THAT SAID, I ' LL BE DELIGHTED TO RESPONSE ANY INQUIRIES. THANK YOU QUITE. > > MANY THANKS. E WE WILL CERTAINLY SHUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. > > MAYBE TEAM OR CANDIDATE CAN ANSWER THIS CONCERN. CANDIDATE MENTIONED THAT THE EXISTING FACILITY, THE BRAIN REHABILITATION FACILITY HAS BEEN UNUSED FOR 3 YEARS. SO IN THE EVENT UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING WAS PERMITTED ON THERE, WHAT OCCURS IF THAT FACILITY DOESN ' T COME TO BE ACTIVE FOR THAT ORIGINAL USAGE? LIKE WHAT CANISTER– CONTAINER THE PROPRIETOR OF THIS PARCEL DO ANYTHING BESIDES REACTIVATE THAT CENTER? > > JAMIE SUNYAK WITH THE INTENDING DIVISION. SO THE CURRENT GROWTH STRATEGY THAT P 86-35, THAT ' S THE ZONING THAT BASICALLY RUNS WITH THE LAND. SO ANY ONE OF THOSE MAKES USE OF THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE ADVANCEMENT PLAN WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE.THAT ' S WHY THE APPLICANT IS BELOW THESE DAYS SATURATING TO INCREASE THOSE USES TO ALLOW FOR UTILIZES OVER AND PAST THAT. > > SO I ' M TRYING TO VERIFY WHAT I ' M REASONING. >> IF YOU PUT ON ' T OPEN THAT FACILITY, WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO WITH THAT? WHAT OCCURS WITH THAT SITE? > > WE ' RE REMOVING THAT CENTER. THAT ' S WHAT THE REMOVAL OF THE TEXT WOULD ALLOW. AS WAS EXPLAINED, WE ' LL END UP, THAT ' LL BE TWO TOWNHOUSES. > > WHAT I ' M HEARING IS THAT GIVEN THAT THIS CENTER IS NO MORE IN USAGE FOR THE MIND REHABILITATION, THERE ' S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING> ELSE YOU WOULD PERFORM WITH THAT? > > THAT ' S. > > WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU ' RE GOING TO SPLIT THE KEY FACILITY RIGHT INTO TWO, IS THAT TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION COMPONENT OF THE 17 OR IS THAT A MULTIFAMILY-TYPE USE IT. > > THERE ' S 17 NEW TOWNHOUSES, AND'AFTER THAT WE WILL TAKE THE MAJOR HOME AND ALSO IT WILL END UP BEING 2 SYSTEMS, AS WELL AS THEN THE EXISTING OR THE EXISTING RESIDENCE THAT WE >> ' RE GOING TO RELOCATE. IT ' S A TOTAL OF 20 SYSTEMS. > > OK. DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THE PRICE RANGE ON THE BRAND-NEW DEVICES? > > I DON ' T THINK THEY ' VE DRILLED IT DOWN YET', STILL DOING RESEARCH, BUT MORE THAN LIKELY IT ' LL BE SOMEPLACE IN THE MID SEVENS TO MID EIGHTS.'> > ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS>? COMMISSIONER ALTURK. > > THIS IS An INQUIRY FOR TEAM. GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMENTS FROM THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMPENSATION IN ATTACHMENT> 8.

>> SO THE CANDIDATE IS NOT REQUIRED TO BUILD A PATHWAY ON PROCTER STREET, CORRECT? CANISTER YOU TELL United States WHAT THE UDO SAYS THEY NECESSITY DO WHEN IT COMES TO SDEWALK HERE? >> > > JUST ONE MIN, PLEASE. > > TRANSPORTATION IS COMING NEAR RESPONSE YOUR INQUIRY. > > THANKS. > > ER LEAN THOMAS, TRANSPORTATION. SO PLAQUE TER STREET IS CURRENTLY AN UNIMPROVED ROAD AND ALSO AT THE WEBSITE PLAN PHASE, NO >> WALKWAYS WILL BE REQUIRED UNLESS THEY WERE REQUIRED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT ROAD.' AS THEY'' RE PRODUCTION NO CONNECTIONS TO IT, THEY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED T DO SO BY THE UDO. >> > > SO DO THEY HAVE TO– ARE THEY REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT SIDEWALKS ANYWHERE ELSE IF THERE WEREN ' T SIDEWALKS ON THE, YOU KNOW– > >. ANYWHERE ELSE THERE IS EXISTING SIDEWALK ALONG THE WEBSITE FRONTAGE. > > O.K.. NO, OK. > > GUARD– WE ' RE NOT REQUIRED TO DEVELOP A SIDEWALK ON SHEPHERD BUT WE ARE GOING TO BECAUSE THERE >> IS A PATHWAY A THROUGHOUT THE ROAD ON THE EXISTING MOREHEAD HILL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE

>> ARE GOING TO >>DEVELOP– SO THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS ON 3 SIDES. > > RIGHT. > > BUT NOT ON PROCTER. THAT SIDEWALK ON SHEPHERD IS CONSISTED OF IN OUR SITE STRATEGY THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE HISTORICAL COMPENSATION. > > OKAY. THANKS. I INDICATE I PRESUMES THE STAFF– IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF CHANGING TE UDO WHEN IT COMES TO THESE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE BAD POLICY TO NOT CALL FOR THEM TO CONSTRUCT A PATHWAY EVERYWHERE THAT'' S ON THE PROPERTY.

> > THANK YOU > > THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GIBBS. > > THANK YOU P. > > SALT WATER. > > SECOND. > > TRANSPORTATION IS COMING UP TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. > > SO DO THEY HAVE TO– ARE THEY REQUIRED TO DEVELOP PATHWAYS ANYWHERE ELSE IF THERE WEREN ' T PATHWAYS ON THE, YOU RECOGNIZE– > >.AND IT, WELL I'' LL WAIT [LOW AUDIO] >> > > THE REGULATION DOES CALL FOR THE SIDEWALK FROM BOTH SIDES. PROBLEM IS THAT THEY'' RE NOT GOING TO ENHANCE THAT STREET AND ALSO THEY'' RE NOT PRODUCTION ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WHICH'' S WHAT, THAT ' S WHY. IF THEY'' RE NOT MAKING AN ENHANCEMENT, THEY ' RE NOT REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK IN THE ACTUAL STREET.IF THEY WERE IMPROVING THAT ROAD THEN YES, THEY WOULD NEED. THAT'' S THE PROBLEM, IS THAT THEY ' RE NOT DOING THE WORK THAT THE PATHWAY RENOVATION IN.'> > I ' LL DELAY TO HEAR FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS. I ' LL MAKE COME BACK >>. > > THANKS. COMMISSIONER MILLER. PRIOR TO HE HAS THE FLOORING, I INTENDED TO KEEP IN MIND COMMISSIONER MORGAN HAS ACTUALLY SIGNED UP WITH United States FOR THE MINS. WELCOME. >> > > CHAIR BUZY, TRANSPORT WISHED TO ADD ONE EVEN MORE POINT TO WHAT I STATED TO CLEAR UP THE ENTIRE SITUATION SO I'' M GING TO ALLOW THEM DO THAT

>> REAL QUICK. > > ONCE MORE, GIVEN THAT PROCTER ROAD IS CURRENT LAY GRAVEL HIGHWAY, TO MAKE THOSE ENHANCEMENTS THEY WOULD REQUIREMENT TO BUILD and pave AESTHETIC AS WELL AS GUTTER AND WALKWAY AND ALSO ALL THAT, THAT'' S WHY THE SIDEWALK IS NOT REQUIRED ALONG CRUSHED ROCK ROADWAYS. >> > > OK. >> THANK YOU. >> > > COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > PERMIT ME TO FOLLOW-UP ON THAT PARTICULAR, EMERGENCY ROOM LI IF EVENTUALLY THE CITY DETERMINES TO LEAD THAT, IT WOULD PAY FOR THAT ENHANCEMENT AT LEAST IN PART IMPOSING AN ANALYSIS ON ADJACENT PROPERTY; WOULD IT NOT? DO WE STILL DO IT BY DOING THIS? EVALUATIONS AND THOSE THINGS? >> > > EXPENSE COURT, TRANSPORT. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY WOULD APPLICATION FOR. IF THE NEIGHBORS OR HOMEOWNER SOUGHT FOR PATHWAY, THERE WOULD BE AN ANALYSIS, BUT THEY COULD P APPLICATION FOR THE STREET RENOVATION WHICH WOULD BE PAVING WITHOUT THE SIDEWALKS.

>> > > BUT THE EXPENSES OF THOSE IMPROVEMENT WOULD SILL BE AVAILABLE IN PART THROUGH AN EVALUATION? >> > > YES >>. > > OF THE HOME OWNERS >>. >> > > YES. > > MUCH LIKE YOU WOULD GO AFTER A WATER EXTENSION. >> > > AS WELL AS FOR WALKWAYS NOW THAT ARE NON-PRIORITY WALKWAYS FROM OUR DURHAM STROLLS STRATEGY, THE ANALYSES BASICALLY FULL COST SO THEY'' RE RATHER EXPENSIVE. >> > > MANY THANKS. CONCERN FOR TEAM. CUSTOMARILY TOWN HOUSES ARE NOT AN RU 5-2 USE BESIDES IN LIMITED SITUATIONS AND ALSO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE.THAT ' S

BECAUSE VICKERS METHOD IS SMALL ROAD? WHAT IS IT IN THE UDO THAT SETS OFF THEIR CAPACITY TO CONSTRUCT TOWN HOUSES IN AN RU 5-2 AREA? >> > > JAMIE SUNYAK, PLANNING DIVISION. I PUT ON'' T HAVE THE CITATION, ALTHOUGH– >> > > JUT MAKE IT UP. [LAUGHTER]> > > BUT THIS HAS BEEN VETTED AND IT WAS FIGURED OUT THAT TOWN HOUSES WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE RIGHT HERE. >> > > O.K.. >> THANK YOU >>. > > MM-HMM. > > AND I WISHED TO POINT OUT, TOO, TO EVERYBODY THAT ALTHOUGH THIS IS An EXTREMELY QUICK DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS MR. STANZIEL TOLD US, BECAUSE THIS REMAINS IN A E NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORICAL AREA WHATEVER THEY UH PROPOSE NEED TO GO THROUGH REALLY RIGID REVIEW HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THAT DOESN'' T MEAN THEY COULDN ' T MAKE A DECISION TO TRANSFORM THE STRATEGY BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME RIGOROUS PROCEDURE ONCE AGAIN. SO ALTHOUGH THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOWN HALL ITEM IN RU 5-2 AT SOME FUTURE POINT THEY COULD MAKE A DECISION TO DEVELOP SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS RESIDENCES OR DUPLEXES BASE ON RU 5-2 TAKING OTHER RESIDENTIAL USAGE ALLOWED BUT WHATEVER TEY DECIDED TO DO THEY'' D HAVE T GO VIA THE SAME STRENUOUS PROCESS.WHEN WE VOTE ON

THIS, WE MUST KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE IT ISN'' T NECESSARILY GOING TO BE THESE COMMUNITY HOUSES. WE ' RE FACING THE ZONING, WE'' RE NOT HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMPENSATION. HAVING ACTUALLY SAID ALL THAT, I LIKE THIS TASK. I LIKE THE MEANS THESE PROGRAMMERS HAVE GONE ABOUT DESIGNING IT AS WELL AS OBTAINING IT AUTHORIZED, ESPECIALLY THEIR INTERACTION WITH THE NEIGHBORS. WHEN I SAW THIS COMING VIA, I TALKED TO THE LADDERS OF THE MOREHEAD HILLSIDE AREA ORGANIZATION AND THE NEIGHBOR'' S FEEDBACK TO IT WAS IN THE MAJOR FAVORABLE. [INDISCERNIBLE] THE KEY HOUSE THERE IS VICTOR BRYAN HOUSE. I DO NOT THINK YOU SUGGEST ANY CHANGE TO THAT COMPONENT OF THE BUILDING. [INDISTINCT] EVERY ONE OF THOSE POINTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN BELOW AS WELL AS MOVING THAT– IF I ' M NOT BLUNDER– DESIGN RESIDENCE CONFRONTING VICK TERS AROUND TO THE VARIOUS OTHER EDGE IS GREAT AS WELL AS I WEAR'' T KNOW OF ANY OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD HAVE UNDERTAKEN TO PERFORM THAT.IT WOULD

HAVE BEEN MUCH CHEAPER TO STYLE AROUND IT, BUT THE END CAUSE MY POINT OF VIEW WOULD BE A BETTER THING FOR YOUR JOB AS WELL AS FOR THE AREA AS A WHOLE. I THANK YOU FOR IT. I'' M GOING TO ELECT FOR THIS. >> > > WONDERFUL. I KNOW WE ALL ORIGINATED FROM THE ARE ZONING MAP CHANGES BUT WE STAYED FOR THE BACKGROUND LESSON. I FEEL VERY SAME MEANS CONCERNING THIS JOB. IT'' S INTERESTING, EXCITING, YOU COMBINE THIS WITH THE KINGS LITTLE GIRL INN HEARING, THE FLUID METHOD, WE'' RE SEEING A FEW OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR APPROPRIATE IN FILL ADVANCEMENT IN ADDITION TO THE OUTREACH THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS WHEN DOING THESE SORT OF PROJECTS.I ALSO APPRECIATE THE TREATMENT THAT YOU ' VE TAKEN, THE CREATIVE THINKING. I PLAN TO VOTE FOR IT. VARIOUS OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER GIBBS. > > I JUST WOUND DOWN TO ADVERTISEMENT ATD MY COMMENTS TO WHAT COMMISSIONER MILLER CLAIMED. I ABSOLUTELY CONCUR, AND THE PROGRAMMERS OR REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PROGRAMMERS JUST HOW MUCH I UH APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT ' S ENTERED INTO THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN WHERE YOU ' VE GOT A NICE STREETSCAPE AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR GIVES SOME ACCESS BETWEEN THE PRIVATELY AMONG THE SYSTEMS. IT ' S– I SIMPLY LIKE THIS PRINCIPLE AS WELL AS IT'HAS APPLICATIONS IN A GREAT DEAL OF PLACES, BUT THAT ' S ALL. I UH JUST DESIRED TO VOICE MY ASSISTANCE FOR THIS AND ALSO, OH, IS THAT RESIDENCE THAT THEY WERE CHATTING REGARDING ONE OF GEORGE WATTS AUTOMOBILES HOUSES? > > THE ONE ON THE CORNER. > > THE VICTOR BRYAN HOUSE WAS BUILT IN THE FIRST YEARS.> THAT ' S THE BIG ONE THAT'DEALS WITH NORTH, FACES MORGAN OPPORTUNITY. >> > > THAT ALWAYS RINGS A BELL WHEN I HEAR GEORGE WATTS CARS NAME MENTIONED.THANK YOU.

> > THANKS >>. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR An ACTIVITY FOR AUTHORIZATION. >> >'> I ' D LIKE TO MAKE An ACTIVITY THAT WE MAOVE PRODUCT Z 1800031 ONWARD WITH A FAVORABLE. SECOND. >> > > THIS IS TO HEAD TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE'' LL HAVE ROLL PHONE CALL BALLOT, PLEASE. [ROLL PHONE CALL BALLOT]>. > > I NEED MY MIKE ON. > > ROLL PHONE CALL BALLOT PROCEEDED] >> > > PASSES 10-0. UH I FORGOT WE GOT ONE RECUSED. HAD TO CHECK THAT. >> > > THANKS. WE ARE CURRENTLY TRANSFERRING TO THE NEXT AMENDMENT PUBLIC HEARINGS: TEXT CHANGES TO THE UNIFIED GROWTH STATUTE. TC1800005 LANDSCAPE AND TREE MODIFICATIONS. WE'' LL START WITH TE TEAM REPORT. >> > > THANK YOU. MICHAEL SUPPLY WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. MESSAGE AMENDMENT TC1800005 CONSISTS OF AMENDMENTS TO LANDSCAPING, BUFFERING, AND TREE COVERAGE STANDARDS TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL BUFFERS FOR RESIDENTIAL GROWTH SITES– I'' LL QUICKLY LIST SIMPLY PUT SUMMARY. TREE PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS FOCUS ON CONSERVATION AN THEN ON TREE SUBSTITUTE. ADD ADDITIONAL FREE TREE PER WHOLE LOT URBAN TIER INCREASES RESIDENTIAL TREE PROTECTION FROM 7% PROTECTION TO 7% CONSERVATION APPROXIMATELY 10% TREE REPLACEMENT.FOR DEELOPMENT NOT QUALIFYING AT INPHIL AS WELL AS INPHIL ADVANCEMENT SPECIFICATIONS WOLD APPLY OTHERWISE. ADD 3%TREE INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE CURRENTLY IS NONE. LANDSCAPE DESIGN TASK BOUNDARY BARRIER NEEDS, THERE ' S RISE IN PROJECT BARRIER NEED ALONG RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN RATE DEVELOPMENT BY RAISING EXEXCEPTION FROM 60 TO 80 FEET IN SIZE. ADD BOND RI BARRIER FOR MASS GRADED. LOWER– ALTERNATIVE SMALL– RELOCATING STREET TREES CLOSER TO RIGHT OF WAY WITH MAXIMUM DISTANCE OF 10 FEET. CALLS FOR EVEN MORE STREET TREES WHEN UNDERSTORE TREES ARE ARE UTILIZED. VARIETY OF MISCELLANEOUS CHANGES CLARIFYING THAT THE QUANTITY OF ROAD TREES NECESSITY BE MET, WE ' RE ADDING TEXT TO MAKE THAT GENEROUSLY E CLEAR. CLARIFYING ARBORISTS ARE TO CERTIFY. CLEAR UP INTERPRETATION'OF MASS GRADING IN REGARDS TO STAGE ADVANCEMENTS, AND AFTERWARDS LIKEWISE REVICES TUSCALOOSA-LAKEWOOD NPO. MESSAGE DEDICATION HAS GONE TO THE JCC P COMPUTER NUMEROUS TIMES AS CHAIR BUZBY CANISTER VOUCH FOR; GREATER THAN I CAN COUNT ON MY FINGERS.HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. > > THANK YOU. WE ' LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ONE INDIVIDUAL JOINED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. KATIE ROSE LEVIN.

> > KATIE ROSE LEVIN, EXEC >> SUPERVISOR OF TREESDURHAM. I ' M GOING TO DISCUSS THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES AS WELL AS I INITIALLY LIKE TO STATE THAT A GREAT DEAL OF >> SUPPORTERS IN THE AREA WHO WISH TO SEE THESE MODIFICATIONS.'PLEASE STAND UP if YOU ' RE RIGHT HERE TO ASSISTANCE STRONGER TREE PROTECTION AND ALSO GROWING. WE ' VE GOT TWO, AS WELL AS WE VALUE YOU COMING, THREE, WE APPRECIATE YOU APPEARING. WE BEGAN WORKING WITH PREPARING DIVISION I UH GUESS IN OCTOBER TO APPEARANCE'AT THE TREE SECURITY IN DURHAM AND ALSO THE TREE MRAND GROWING REQUIREMENTS IN DURHAM. CURRENTLY, DURHAM HAS THE WEAKEST TREE PLANTING– TREE DEFENSE AND ALSO PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS OUT OF EVERY ONE OF OUR CITIES IN THE TRIANGULAR, SO LESS THAN RALEIGH AND CHAPEL HILLSIDE AS WELL AS CARY, AND MORRISVILLE IN A GREAT DEAL OF CASES SO WE ' VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PREPARING DEPARTMENT TO CHANGE THAT.THEY ' VE MADE BIG TIPS FORARD AND ALSO WE ' RE STILL REACHING FOR THE FLOOR OF RALEIGH WHICH IS WHERE I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT OUR STAN CARDS. BECAUSE THE NEXT CHANGES WON ' T BE MADE UNTIL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH WE UNDERSTAND COULD TAKE ANOTHER 4-6 YEARS, the FACTOR THESE ARE SO VITAL TO BE MADE NOW IS. THIS IS A BIG CHANCE BETWEEN CURRENTLY AN SIX YEARS, THERE ' S GOING BE A GREAT DEAL OF GROWTH. THERE ARE 5 POINTS WE ' D LIKE FWROING UP IN REGARDS TO THE SUGGESTED CHANGED. IS THE DEMAND TO HAVE DEVELOPERS PLANT ROAD TREES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. CURRENTLY, DEVELOPERS RESTRICTED FROM GROWING ROAD TREES IN THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF FACILITIES FINANCIAL INVESTMENT BY DEVELOPERS.OTHER CITIES DO REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO ACCOMPLISH SO AND ALSO ACTUALLY DURHAM IS USING TAX OBLIGATION GAMER MONEY TO PLANT TREES AT PRICE OF ABUT 1,500 A YEAR, SO BY NOT REQUIRING DEVELOPERS TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME WE ' RE SETUP OURSELVES AS MUCH AS USE TAXPAYER CASH TO REPLANT THESE TREES. IF WE ASSUME ONLY ABOUT A MILE OF NEW DOPE EACH YEAR THAT IMPLIES IT ' S GOING TO TAKE THE CITY OF DURHAM CONCERNING 3 YEARS TO GO'BACK AS WELL AS CHANGE THE ASSETS THAT THE PROGRAMMERS ARE NOT MOUNTING. WE ' RE LOSING GROUND SWIFTLY AS WELL AS IF WE DELAY FOR ANOTHER SIX YEARS OR SO FOR THESE DEVELOPERS TO COME IN, 18 YEARS FOR US TO REPLACE EASY TO POSSESSIONS THAT DESIGNERS ARE NOT DOING ON THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR. WE WOULD ADVISE THE PLANNING PAYMENT TO ACTUALLY PROPOSE THAT DEVELOPERS BE REQUIRED TO PLANT TREES WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY EXEMPTION WITH A WRITTEN EXCEPTION FROM FORESTRY. CURRENT CODE SAYS DESIGNERS ARE FORBIDDEN TO PLANT IN RIGHT-OF-WAY EXEMPTION WITH AUTHORIZATION. WE ' D LIKE TO SUPPORTER ACTION TREES CLOSER TO THE ROAD. THE OTHER POINT IS, WE ' VE BEEN TOUCHING GENERAL ZESTS AND ONE TERMS THEY EXPRESSED IS THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE HOA TAKE CARE OF ROAD TREES WHICH REMAIN IN THE DEVELOPMENTS AND ALSO WE ' RE IN SUPPORT OF THAT TO SEE TO IT TREE ES ARE WELL TAKEN TREATMENT OF.THAT ' S THE FIRST FACTOR. THE SKD AIM IS CALLS FOR A MINIMAL OF 10%TREE CONSERVATION FOR ALL ADVANCEMENTS 2 ACRES OR MORE. SUGGESTED ADJUSTMENTS YOU HERD IN TWO MEANS. ONE THE MODIFICATIONS CURRENTLY SUGGEST [INDISTINCT] WHICH LEAVES OUT SMALLER INPHIL ADVANCEMENTS, OMITS A LOT OF SMALL PURCHASING CENTERS. 2 ACRE POINT CUTOFF IS THAT IT LEAVES OUT MANY SOLITARY FAMILY HOUSE DEVELOPMENTS, SMALL RENOVATIONS SO IT DOESN ' T PUT LARGE BURDEN ON BUILDING IN BACKYARD BUT IT DOES CATCH MORE DURABLE GROWTHS AS RALEIGH HAS NOTED.THE SECONDLY IS TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 10 %MAINTAIN PROBLEMS TRANSFORM WEBSITE. CURRENTLY YOU HEARD WE ' RE AS LOW AS 3%AS WELL AS IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THERE ARE NO PRESERVED TREES ON VIEW JUST ONY REPLANTING. RALEIGH REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 10%. THAT ' S THE FLOORING. IN'LOTS CIRCUMSTANCES SOME PROPERTIES REQUIRE MUCH MORE. WE THINK WE CAN DO A MINIMUM OF COMPARABLE TO RALEIGH AND IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES DO BETTER.

PART OF WHAT THE PREPARING DIVISION HAS PROPOSED IS BETTER THAN RALEIGH IN SO MUCH AS IF THEY DON ' T HAVE MINIMUM AMOUNT CONSERVATION THEY HAVE TO REARE PANT UH BUT WE ' D LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST 10%OFF WEBSITE COMMISSIONER CONSISTED OF. WE UNDERSTAND FROM THE INTENDING DIVISION THAT MANY COMMERCIAL SITES SELECT NOT TO PROTECT SO WE ' RE LOSING THAT NICE BUFFER WE ANTICIPATE. THE SECONDLY IS TO REQUIRE A TREE STUDY THAT ' S VALIDATED BY AN ARBORIST. STUDY UH YOURS ARE GREAT AT CORNERS AND BAD AT IDENTIFYING'TREES. I ' M A ARBORIST AND I CONFIRM STUDIES AN I FREQUENTLY DISCOVER'POINTS THAT ARE CALLED TREES ARE REALLY DEAD. UH I THINK THAT BY REQUIRING ARBORISTS THAT ARE PROFESSIONALS IN THE AREA, WE ' RE GOING TO OBTAIN EVEN MORE PRECISE INFORMATION AND ALSO MAINTAINING POINTS LIKE LIVING TREES.THAT ' S THREE. THE FOURTH IS TO SUPPLY ARBORIST REVIEW AND ALSO BUILDING OVERSIGHT. THIS IS MORE SUPPORT IN PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS THEY EXPAND IN THEIR FUNCTION. I THREW A LOT AT YOU BUT I ' D LOVE TO TAKE INQUIRY AND ALSO GO FROM THERE. > > WHAT WE ' LL DO IS WE ' LL CLOSE THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING AND ALSO IF COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS THEY ' LL TELEPHONE CALL YOU BACK UP. > > THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK. > > ANY PERSON ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK ON THIS THING? I WEAR ' T SEE'ANYBODY SO WE ' LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONERS, INQUIRIES? COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. > > CONCERN FOR STAFF. IN REACTION TO THE PUBLIC REMARK, EXISTS OR WAS THERE ANY RATIONALE FOR THE 4 >> ACRE MINIMUM VERSUS TWO ACRE MINIMUM FOR THE REQUIRED GROWING. > > 4 ACRE IS STANNER DARD UDO WE ' D REQUIRED TO TAKE A LOOK AT >> SO-POLICIES CONCERNING INPHIL ADVANCEMENT IF WE WANTED TO PROGRESS WITH DIFFERENT PROPERTY. > > DO YOU SEE ANY POSSIBLE LIABILITY, PROs, Disadvantages FOR GROIN FOUR TO TWO? > > I THINK IT WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL STUDY AS WELL AS STUDY TO VERIFY IF TWO ACRES IS APPROPRIATEOVER >> FOUR ACRES. > > MY SECOND INQUIRY IS REGARDING THE TREE PLANTING INNING THE RIGHT OF WAY. PLANTING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> WHAT ' S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT'REQUEST AND A IT SEEMS TO MAKE FEELING, SO WHY DIDN ' T IT END UP IN WHAT WE ' RE READING? > > I ' LL OFFER A FRACTURE AT >> IT AND IF I MISSTATE SOMETHING, MY UPPERS WILL FIX ME OR STEP IN.STAFF IS USUALLY SUPPORTIVE OF PUTTING ROAD TREES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND A WE ' VE MENTIONED THAT AT JCCPC;> HOWEVER THERE ARE OTHER DIVISIONS INVOLVED AS WELL AS An OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES ENTAILED RENOVATIONS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY SO THERE IS A DESIRE TO STUDY THAT IN MUCH MORE DETAIL TO SEE TO IT THAT ' S A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE, THUSZ HENCE WE FELT MOVING IT TO 10 FEET VERSUS 30 FEET WAS A GREAT EQUILIBRIUM TO MOVE ONWARD WITH AT THIS TIME.

WE ' RE NOT TAKING IT OFF THE TABLE BUT WE WISH TO RESEARCH STUDY AND ALSO OBTAIN OTHER DIVISIONS ON BOARD AND ALSO IN THE DISCUSSION IN MORE DETAIL. > > QUICK FOLLOW-UP TO THAT COMMENT.CONSIDERING WHICH I HAVE A TENDENCY TO ATHREE GROOE, THE LENGTH OF TIME DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT RESEARCH– > > I WEAR ' T HAVE A TIME THE FRAMEWORK RIGHT NOW. > >. WITH SO MUCH HAPPENING IN DURHAM NOW'AND THE ISSUE WITH THE PROSPECTIVE LOSS VERSUS PROTECTING, IS IT CHALLENGING OR TOO CONFRONTATIONAL FOR THE PROPRIETORS OF THE DIVISIONS TO RESEARCH IT AND ALSO GET THE EXCEPTION? WHATEVER DIVISION THEY WOULD CONCERN, WHATEVER THEY NEED TO TO OBTAIN THE EXCEPTION. >> > > AS FOR I ' M AWARE

ANY TIME THERE ' S BEEN DEMAND TO PUT STREE TREES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THERE ' S BEEN ALLOWANCES FOR THAT. > > MY FACTOR IS, THE DEMAND IS THAT, >> THAT COME TO BE DEFAULT THAT IT ' S MANDATED TO BE A COMPONENT OF THE GROWTH PROCEDURE, SO IS THERE ANY MAJOR FRICTION THAT WOULD CAUSE THAT TO BEOME DEFAULT IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT REQUIRED TO ACCOMPLISH ALL THE EXAMINING WHICH CAN USE UP TO 2 YEARS AS WELL AS GROWTH STILL BE HAPPENING TO FIND ANYONE WHO THEY NEED TO >> DO OBTAIN AN EXEMPTION FROM HAVING TO PUT THE TREES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY VERSUS GOING TO DEMAND TREES TO PLACE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. > > COMMISSIONER JOHNSON THE> WORRY FROM OUR SISTER DEPARTMENTS IS THAT WHEN THESE ARE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THEY END UP BEING THE CITY ' S MAINTENANCE OBLIGATION THEREFORE WORTH SOME KIND OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO GO WITH TREE MAINTENANCE WHICH IS NOT PARTICULARLY WELL-FUNDED RIGHT NOW, WE COULD HAVE A REALLY LARGE FISCAL OBLIGATION FROM THE CITY. > > THAT ' S A VERY INSIGHTFUL ANSWER. SO IT APPEARS TO BE THAT THERE ' S A FINANCIAL IMPLICATION TO THE RIGHT OF WAY CONCERN

>> THEREFORE I WON ' T CALL FAR RESPONSE TO THAT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC BU THAT ' S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THAT ' S PART OF THE FACTOR TO CONSIDER. > > MANY THANKS. COMMISSIONER BRIE. > > MANY THANKS. YOU ' VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE TUSCALOOSA-LAKEWOOD NPO. DOES THE AREA AUTHORIZE? > > WE SENT THT TO THEM, WE SANCTUARY ' T LISTENED TO AN REMARKS. >> > > ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ' S COME BACK, OK. WEB PAGE THREE, THE LITTLE TABLE ON TOP OF THE WEB PAGE, THERE ' S 10 AT THE TOP OF EACH COLUMN AND ALSO IT WANTS TO ME BASED ON WHAT'YOU ' VE BEEN DOING THAT THAT MUST> BE A STRIKE THROUGH. >> > > , NO THE INTENTION WAS TO CONCENTRATE ON RESIDENTIAL ADVANCEMENT IN THIS CASE.THERE ' S NO CHANGES TO THE NON-RESIDENTIAL.> > > OH, OK. YOU'DISCUSS THE SUBURBAN >> TIER AND ALSO'THE URBAN RATE. TO ME AMONG THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT ' S REALLY MISSING OUT ON IS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. WE DON ' T SEEM TO HAVE ANY UH TREE CONSERVATION GOALS OR REQUIREMENTS FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALSO I UH THINK THAT >> ECOLOGICALLY IS BAD. AND I ' M WONDERING IF THAT COULD

BE ADDRESSED. > > THAT IS NOT BEING DEALT WITH AT THIS >> TIME. > > I ASSUME IT NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE WE ' RE GOING TO BE SPEAKING CONCERNING A SMALL COMMUNITY SHORTLY AS WELL AS THERE ARE SOME DEFINITE AREAS'IN THERE THAT TREE CONSERVE I BELIEVE IS VERY ESSENTIAL. > > I KNOW THERE ARE GOING TO BE INCREASED OPEN SPACE CRITERIA FOR THE COMPACT'AREA THAT YOU ' RE GOING >> TO BE HEARING TONIGHT. >> > > I WOULD PREFER SO SEE SOMETHING IN AN REGULATION FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. ON WEB PAGE FOUR, 932, EXISTING TREES, LOWER REPROTECTION AREA SOMEWHAT, BUT I SEEM TO BEAR IN MIND WE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF

>> DISCUSSION WHEN IT WAS 80 %. IS THIS REDUCTION O.K. WIH ARBORIST? > > WE SPOKE TO STAFF INCLUDED WITH THAT AND ALSO'IT ACTUALLY BRINGS IT RIGHT INTO CONSISTENCY WITH OTHER REAL TREE CONSERVATION PROTECTIONS AND ALSO NEEDS. OTHER PARTS OF THE REGULATION AND THE 75%DOES LOOK LIKE A LITTLE OF DECREASE BUT IT ACTUALLY PERMITS MORE TREES TO QUALIFY AS BEING SECURED. > > OK. AS WELL AS MY FINAL INQUIRY. WE HVE TREES ALONG THE ROAD AS WELL AS I BELIEVE WE SHOULD, IF THOSE TREES OBTAIN LOWER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROAD COULD BE BROADENED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR SIDEWALKS PLACE IN, WILL THERE BE ANY NEED THAT THOSE TREES BE CHANGED? > > MY EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST OF WHERE THE CITY OR OTHER GOVERNMENT COMPANY HA GONE IN TO REMOVE REQUIRED PLANTS THAT THEY ' VE HAD TO REPLACE IT. > > GOOD. SINCE ON OLD CHAPEL HILLSIDE ROAD YOU ' VE GOT SOME PLACES WHERE YOU NEED TO BEGIN SETTING SOME TREES BACK. [LAUGHTER] THANK YO. > > THANKS, COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > I DESIRED A LITTLE ASSISTANCE ON PAGE AMONG OUR MATERIALS HERE, THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE, ITSELF. IN, I PRESUME IT ' S 465 C1B, I PUT ON ' T THINK IT CHECKS OUT

>> RIGHT. FOR TREE PROTECTION DEMANDS PER SEC'[ INDISTINCT] TREE INSURANCE COVERAGE SHALL BE MET ON A LOT-BY-LOT BASIS. SOMETHING IS MISSING OUT ON IN THAT SENTENCE. >> > THANKS. I ' LL CORRECT THAT. >> > > AND ALSO IWAS ADDITIONALLY CURRENTLY OVER ON WEB PAGE FOUR, 942A 1 IN THE SUV TIER A TASK BOUNDARY BARRIER FOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECT IS NOT'REQUIRED THE SIGNING UP WITH A ROAD OR RAILWAY RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT ARE MORE THAN 80 FEET. I THINK IT IS GREATER. > > OK. > > ONE OF MY PROBLEMS IS IT ' S NOT CLEAR TO ME– AND ALSO IT MAY BE EVEN IF OF >> THE MEANS WE ESSENCE THINGS TO PRESENT THEM >>– WHAT THE AGENCY IS HERE? THAT ' S IN CHARGE OF GROWING THESE TREES? CALL FOR TREES TO BE PLANTED, WHO NEEDS TO PLANT THEM? > > THE CANDIDATE OR DESIGNER, THE INDIVIDUAL WHO ' S IMPLEMENTING THE SITE STRATEGY OR NEIGHBORHOOD. > > OR SOMEONE WHO ' S SIMPLY DEVELOPING A HOUSE? >> >. > > AND ALSO IT'' S OBTAINED TO BE DURHAM [INDISCERNIBLE] BECAUSE PROCEDURE. WHAT DESIRES WRDS THE TREE IS REMOVED, REDUCE, OR SIMPLY DIES? DOES THESE PROPOSE ONGOING CRITERIA TO KEEP THE TREES? > > YES. THAT ' S AN PROBLEM AND IT ' S USUALLY COMPLAINT DRIVEN.> > > SO I ' VE GOT 110 FWEET OF ROADWAY FRONTAGE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE IN THE URBAN RATE. I HAVE TWO TREES THAT ARE WITHIN 30 FEET OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. WHAT AM I E GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO ABIDE BY THIS I IT UH PASSES? > > NOTHING AT– UNLESS YOU ' RE STRUCTURE A NEW RESIDENCE. > > SO >> IT ' S NOT CAUSED UNLESS I CONSTRUCT SOMETHING. THIS DOESN ' T– > > NOT >> RETROACTIVE. IF THEY ' RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING, > > MAKE SOMEONE DO SOMETHING. > > CORRECT. > > TRIGGER DEMAND? > > INPIL REQUIREMENTS HAVE OWN LANDSCAPING AREA SO IT DEFERS TO THAT. OTHERWISE IF YOU ' RE BEYOND >> INPHIL LIKE IN SUBURBAN, TRIGGERING THE TREE COVERAGE NEED. THERE ' S COUPLE OTHER CAVEATS. > > IF I DEVELOP DEVICE STRUCTURE, WILL THAT TRIGGER> IT? > > NO. >> > > THT ASSISTS A GREAT DEAL. FINALLY, HELP ME UNDERSTAND SECTION 944, NATURAL BARRIERS. >> IT UPSETS >> ME WHENEVER> I SEE A CLAIMING BUFFERS CONTAINER BE [INDISCERNIBLE] OR HAVE LESS OPACITY. > > THIS IS ACTUALLY TRIGGERING REQUIREMENT FOR NATURAL BUFFER. REDUCING THE NUMBER IS ACTUALLY CAP CLURING MORE INSTANCES THAT NATURAL BARRIER WOULD BE REQUIRED. VERY SAME POINT FOR THE CHOICE LESSENING> THAT >> NUMBER TO ENCOURAGE OR INCENTIVIZE EVEN MORE POSSIBILITIES AND ALSO MORE USAGE OF NATURAL BARRIER ALTERNATIVE. > > SO 9.4.4 A RELATES TO THE COUNTRY as well as country TIERS? > > RIGHT. > > AFTER THAT WE COME DOWN TO, B >>, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT COLLABORATES WITH AN EXAMPLE IF YOU WOULD DUE TO THE FACT THAT I ' M NOT SURE I OBTAIN IT. NOT BECAUSE IT ISN ' T CLEAR. IF THOSE ARE– THAT SPECIFIC INSTANCE IS TRIGGERED, > > IT ' S JUST STATING THAT YOU CAN USAGE NATURAL BUFFER AS AN OPTION. YOU CAN GO DOWN THE 20 FEET AND ALSO USE NATURAL BARRIER AS AN ALTERNATIVE. INSTEAD OF A CONSTRUCTED BUFFER OR SWAPPING OUT VEGETATION >>. >> > > MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT IN THE URBAN TIER, 20 FEET OF TREES ANYWHERE IS NOT AN EFFECTIVE BUFFER.SO ME A BUFFER IS A GADGET THAT WE INTEND TO CREATE IN ORDER TO MAKE INCONSISTENT NEIGHBORS, SECURE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS.

> > THE STATUTE DOES REQUIRE THE PATHWAY FROM BOTH SIDES. > > I ' LL WAIT TO HEAR FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS. > > COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK ON THIS PRODUCT? > > FAST FOLLOW-UP TO THAT COMMENT.CONSIDERING WHICH I TEND TO ATHREE GROOE, HOW LONG DO YOU PREPARE FOR THAT RESEARCH STUDY– > > I DON ' T HAVE A TIME THE STRUCTURE AT THIS TIME.WHEN I O OUT AND ALSO CONSIDER FULLY GROWN GROWTHS OF TREES THAT OBTAIN CUT UP, IF YOU INCREASE AND FIND FIFTY PERCENT AN ACRE OF TREES AND ALSO YOU SUFFICE UP TO ENSURE THAT 20 FOOT STRIP OF THOSE TREES IS LEFT, YOU TREES THAT ARE 75 FEET CHEAPEST and high LIMB AT 50 FEET. IT'' S A BUNCH OF TOOTHBRUSHES. IT DESN'' T SEEM TO ME THAT THAT– IT MAY SAVE SOME TREES, BUT IT NO MORE FUNCTIONS AS A PRIOR TO BETWEEN THOSE INCONGRUOUS USES. IS THAT A DANGER? >> > > THINGS WITH NATURAL BARRIER IS YOU STILL NEED TO FULFILL OPACITY SPECIFICATIONS.

>> > > THIS DOESN ' T GET RID OF NEED OF SUPPLEMENTING? >> > > CORRECT >>. >'> THANK YOU. >> I ' M SATISFIED. >> >'> MANY THANKS. P VICE CHAIR HYMAN. > > I ' D LIKE THE ASK THIS CONCERN OF PERSONNEL, PLEASE. IT ' S A SITUATION THAT I ' M ACCUSTOMED TO GIVEN THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING GROWING TREES IN THE CITY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. ARE THERE ANY SCENARIOS THAT I'' M LOOKING AT GENERAL STANDARDS IN WHICH IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA IT SHALL PUT ON BUILDING OF ANY PRIMARY STRUCTURE AS WELL AS SHALL APPLY TO PERSON LOTS. I'' M SPEAKING ABOUT AN PERSON GREAT DEAL. EXIST ANY CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WOULD ALLOW PLANTING OF TREES IN THE ESE M OR RIGHT-OF-WAY? >> > > WELL, YOU CAN DEMAND THAT IF THE NEED IF YOU'' RE TRYING TO MEET STREET TREE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS YOU ' RE REQUESTED, YOU TIN. THE STYLE DISTRICTS DO ENABLE ROAD PLANTINGS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. AN EASEMENT, I WOULDN ' T BE ABLE TO INFORM YOU FOR PARTICULAR FOR EASEMENTS. USUALLY THERE'' S TYPICALLY DEPENDING ON EASEMENT THERE'' S USUALLY QUITE STRINGENT CONSTRAINTS ON THE KINDS OF GROWING. >> > > SECOND COMPONENT OF THAT, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE? ENFORCEMENT IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE.WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE THEN FOR THOSE TREES WHEN THEY ' RE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY? > > IF YOU PUT TREES >> IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THAT ' S DUTY OF THE CITY. > > COMMISSIONER MILLER. >> > > SO HER INQUIRY INCREASES >> A CONCERN TO ME. THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE MINIMUM NEEDS OF SOMEONE THAT IS ENGAGED IN A TRIGGERS ACTIVITY, GROWTH TASK. I RETURN TO 110 FEET ON VIRGINIA METHOD IN THE URBAN RATE. IF I DESIRED TO INCLUDE A TREE TO BOTH TREES I CURRENTLY OBTAINED, I COULD MOST LIKELY TO– AND I WISHED TO PLANT IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT IT WOULD COME TO BE A CITY-OWNED STREET STREE, I COULD PUT ON THE CITY FOR THAT PERMISSION AND ALSO DEAL WITH CITY ARBORIST AS WELL AS THEY MAY OR MAY NOT ALLOW ME.THIS ISN

' T TOUCHING THAT. >> > > NO >>. > > COMMISSIONER AL-TURK >>. > > THANKS. I'WISH TO MAKE CERTAIN I ' M CLEAR ON TREE COVERAGE IN 8.31 C. SUBURBAN TIER IN THE PAST WE HAD ZERO PERCENT– IN THE SUBURBAN RATE NOW THERE ' S A MINIMUM OF 20% PROTECTED TREE PROTECTIONS THAT'' S REQUIRED;> CORRECT? >> > > CORRECT. > > AND AFTERWARDS IN URBAN TIER, THAT HAS GONE FROM 3%– WAS THE PREVIOUS REQUIREMENT– NOW TO 7%. >> > > CORRECT >>. > > I'GUESS I ' M ASKING YOU THIS CONCERN BECAUSE OF ADD-ON E, THE SUGGESTION FROM TREE, WHICH REMAINS IN OTHER CITIES IT APPEARS LIKE THEY JUST HAD ONE NUMBER THEREFORE IN P CHAPEL HILL ITS ALL OVER WITHIN CHURCH HILLSIDE 20%; IS THERE A REASON IN SUBURBAN TIER YOU'' RE RECOMMENDING 20% AND AFTERWARDS IN URBAN YOU ' RE ADVISING 7? >> > >'IT ' S SIMPLY RECOGNITION OF A VARIOUS URBAN FORM.THERE ' S USUALLY UH EVEN MORE SPACE IN SUBURBAN TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SITE OF LAND. URBAN RATE IS USUALLY INPHIL OR OLDER OR BUILT-UPON LOTS. THERE'' S DIFFERENT URBAN AND BUILT CHARACTERISTICS IN THE URBAN TIER THAN IN SUBURBAN. >> > > BUT THE OTHER CITIES DO NOT MAKE DIFFERENCE, CORRECT? >> > > THAT ' S CORRECT. >> > > IF I MAY,'CHAIR K I ' D LIKE TO ASK MS. LEVIN TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE JUST BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW THIS RELEASE EXTREMELY WELL.IS THERE A REASON FOR THIS DISTINCTION THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE TO YOU? AND BASED ON OTHER CITIES ALSO. >> > > MICHAEL ' S FACTOR IS WELL TAKEN THAT THERE ARE VARIOUS CHANCES IN TYPICALLY IN URBAN VERSE US SUBURBAN. BECAUSE WHEN THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY CAPTURE THAT, one REASON WHY RALEIGH HAS 10% THROUGHOUT THAT. THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITY IN 2.8 ACRES TO AT LEAST SEEK IN RALEIGH'' S SITUATION THEY WOULD SAY 10 %. IF YOU COUNT DISCOVER THEM AFTER THAT YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED UNDER CURRENT– IF IT WAS A MINIMAL OF 10%, YOU WOULD SEEK TO DISCOVER THAT 10%, MAINTAIN THOSE, AND THEN RETURNED AD REPLANT AS MUCH AS THE MAX. SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT'' S A GOOD TECHNIQUE. AMONG THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT'' S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH OUR METHOD WITH DURHAM'' S PROPOSITION VERSUS WHAT RALEIGH DOES IS DURHAM IS AFTER THAT CLAIM YOU NEED TO AT THE VERY LEAST MINIMUM PROTECTION WHICH IS COMBINATION OF GROWING AND ALSO PRESERVATION IN WHICH RALEIGH CLAIMS YOU NEED TO MEET PRESERVATION AND ALSO THAT'' S IT AND IF YOU DON ' T GET IT YOU PUT ON ' T GET IT. THAT ' S DIFFERENTIATION THERE.MOST OTHERS WEAR ' T VARIOUS

REN AREUATE BECAUSE THEY SEE VALUE IN LOOKING FOR MINIMUM. IN DURHAM ' S SUSTAINABILITY AND DURABLE IS I STRATEGY THEY ' RE SEARCHING FOR 65 %TREE PROTECTION THROUGHOUT DURHAM AS WELL AS IF WE ' RE ONLY CALLS FOR 3 %THAT ' S JUST NOT REALLY FEASIBLE WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT CHARLOTTE DISCOVERED. THEY HAD COVER INSURANCE COVERAGE GOL AND UNDERSTOOD WITHOUT INCREASING QUANTITY OF TREES PRESERVING, THEY WEREN'' T GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. DURHAM HAS SIMILAR OBJECTIVE AND SIMILARLY ASKING THEM TO BOOST TO AT LEAST A FOUR IN ALL LOCATIONS OF 10% AND ALSO IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES 20%. >> > > MANY THANKS. IF I MAY AND ALSO SINCE YOU– SO YOU LISTENED TO SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES WITH PLACING TREES ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE TRYING TO FIND UP WITH COMPROMISE. IT WAS ORIGINALLY 30 FEET NOW 10 FEET CAN YOU CLAIM WHAT YOU'' RE TALK ON THAT PARTICULAR. IS THAT A GREAT CONCESSION? > > THERE ARE 3 POINTS TO RAISE. FIRST IS THAT A PERSON OF THE FACTORS THEY DON ' T INTEND TO PUT THE TREES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY IS THEY ' RE WORRIED ABOUT MAINTENANCE COST.THE CITY IS A GROWING CITY THEREFORE WE'' RE INCREASING MAINTENANCE NEEDS OF EVERYTHING: WALKWAYS AND ALSO POINTS LIKE THAT, SO IN WHICH WE'' RE NOT ENDING PEOPLE FROM SETTING UP BECAUSE WE'' LL NEED TO ACQUIRE MORE VEHICLES. YES WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN UTILITIES SUGGESTS WE NEED MORE INDIVIDUALS. THE NATURAL EFFECT FOR GROWING CITY. THAT'' S ONE. THE SECOND IS THERE ' S LITTLE BIT OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ASPECT OF IT. IN SOME NEW RESOURCE NEIGHBORHOODS CANISTER AFFORD TO LOOK AFTER TREES.WE ' RE GRANTING INDIVIDUALS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO TREE CANOPY INSURANCE COVERAGE. PLACING STREES IN BETWEEN STREET AND WALKWAY FROM TRANSPORTATION VIEWPOINT OFFERS YOU MORE DIRECT DEFENSE FOR PEDESTRIANS, PHYSICAL DEFENSE FROM VEHICLES STRIKING YOU ALONG WITH OTHER KINDS OF BENEFITS LIKE COOLER AIR, CARS NATURALLY REDUCING 10 MILES PER HOUR. YOU'' RE OBTAINING SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS BY PUTTING THE TREES BETWEEN SIDEWALK AND THE ROADWAY AS OPPOSED TO IN THE YARD.FRANKLY, WHEN

YOU GROW– IF CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY IS 35 FEET OFF VISUAL AND YOU'' RE PERMIT TO GO 10 FEET YOU ' RE LOOKING AT TREE 45 FEET OFF THE STREET. WHICH IS FACTORS WHY IN IDENTIFIES YOU'' LL DRIVE AROUND AND ALSO SEE ROAD TREES RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE RESIDENCE P. I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU SKU ME IS IT An EXCELLENT CONCESSION, I BELIEVE IT'' S A GREAT ACTION. AMONG THE IMPORTANT THINGS I ' M FRETTED ABOUT IS FOR HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE US TO GET TO PUTTING THEM IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON BROUGHT UP THIS SUGGESTION OF WHY WOULDN'' T YOU REQUIRE IT'UNLESS THERE ' S A FACTOR NT TO, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE CITY IS CURRENTLY PLANTING STREES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY STATING THEY CANISTER TACKLE NOT ONLY THAT LIABILITY BUT ALSO THAT IT OUGHT TO BE DONE AS A PLAN.

>> > > THANK YOU. THAT ' S HELPFUL. >> > > MANY THANKS >>. >> > > THANKS. > > MANY THANKS. VARIOUS OTHER INQUIRIES OR COMMENTS? I HAD A PAIR QUESTIONS. I LIKEWISE DID WANT TO FIRST OF ALL BEGINNING BY THANKING STAFFON FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS. THIS HAS COME BEFORE SEVERAL BODIES. WE'' VE– IT HAS REMAINED TO ENHANCE THE WONDERFUL REMARKS FROM TREESDURHAM AS WELL AS OTHER AREA INPUT. INQUIRIES I UH HAD WHICH I PLAINLY DIDN'' T GET An OPPORTUNITY TO ASK AT THE OTHER THREE PREVIOUS MEETINGS BUT THIS IS MY LAST POSSIBILITY: HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THE TREE COVERAGE AS WELL AS IS THAT IN RIGHT HERE SOMEWHERE? >> > > TREE PROTECTION COMPUTATION ROOT DEFENSE ZONE COMPUTATION PROTECTION NEEDS ARE WITHIN AREA 8.3. >> > > BUT NOT IN THE HANDOUT. >> > > NO. WE WEREN ' T TOUCHING THAT. >> > > THAT ' S GREAT. THANKS. DO YOU RECOGNIZE HOW DOES THE CITY– SO THE CITY OF RALEIGH PLANTS TREES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, BUT YOU RAISED THE PROBLEM AFTER THAT OF THE PRICE UPKEEP FOR THE CITY.DO YOU UNDERSTAND JUST HOW MUCH THAT PRICES THE CITY OF RALEIGH? > > WHEN I TALKED WITH THEM, THEY DON ' T KNOW THE ACTUAL FUTURE EFFECTS WHEN I TALKED WITH THE ARBORIST OR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, SO I WASN'' T ABLE TO E OBTAIN THAT SORT OF DETAILS. >> > > I VALUE THAT YOU WERE SEEKING IT. I WILL CERTAINLY CLAIM COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'' S CONCERNS REALLY STRUCK ME AS THE ISSUES THAT I'' VE BEEN HURTING WITH. I'' M PLANNING TO VOTE FOR THIS. I VALUE TH TREESDURHAM IS INDICATING WE SHOULD, THEY'' RE RECOMMENDING WE MUST ELECT FOR IT. OUR DECISION TONIGHT IS TO VOTE NO AND ALSO REMAIN EXACTLY IN WHICH WE ARE OR TO VOTE YES TO BEGIN TO PROGRESS, SO I'' M GOING TO VOTE YES TO BEGIN TO MOVE ON, BUT I DO REARE GRET THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING EXTRA ACTIONS OF THEN YOU OUGHT TO PROACTIVELY PLANT IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS WELL AS HAVE THE ABILITY TO THEN PROGRESS ASK FOR EXCEPTION TO NOT DO IT. IS THE BETTER METHOD TO GO EVEN IN- THOUGH WE DON'' T NECESSARILY KNOW THE COST FOR UPKEEP. WE'' RE GOING TO MISS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY, AS WELL AS I LIKEWISE BELIEVE OPTING FOR TWO ACRE MORSE COMPARED TO 4 ACRES OR EVEN MORE IS A FAR BETTER WAY TO MOVE ON, SO I REALLY HOPE WE WILL CERTAINLY BE BACK HERE QUICKLY TO CONTINUE TO RISE THESE ORDINANCES TO MEET WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS REQIRE.WE ' RE

NOT ASKING TO PERFORM ANYTHING OUTLANDISH. WE'' RE STILL IN LOTS OF WAYS FALLING SHORT OF OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS WE'' RE MISSING OPPORTUNITIES DAILY, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT WE'' RE START TO RELOCATE AHEAD, I DO PLAN TO ELECT IT. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> > > ONE FOR THE– I THINK THIS IS A PASS AHEAD VERSUS TWO GO BACK. IS OUR ALTERNATIVE BASICALLY IF WE DON'' T WISH TO JUST GIVE COMMENTS TO– OK. >> > > VARIOUS OTHER COMMISSIONERS MAY WEIGH IN BUT THAT'' S HOW I UH SEE IT IS THAT IF WE– YOU CAN VOTE IT DOWN AND ALSO PUT IN COMMENTS WHY IT'' S STILL IS ADVANCE AS WELL AS WHY YOU VOTED AGAINST IT.I ' M PREPARATION TO GO THE OPPOSITE COURSE, WE OUGHT TO APPROVE IT BUT I AM GOING TO PUT IN MY COMMENTS THE PLACES IN WHICH WE'' RE FALLING SHORT AD NEED TO REMAIN TO ENHANCE. >> > > THNK YOU. >> > > COMMISSIONER GIBBS. >> > > SIMPLY COUPLE REMARKS. I HAVE AN RESPONSE TO ONE OF THEM WHICH IS WHAT VERSATILITY EXISTS IN NOT ADHERING TO THE SO-CALLED REQUIRED MINIMUMS OF TREE PLANTINGS, LOCATIONS, UH, BUT WELL I'' LL JUST ASK THE INQUIRY OF STAFF.THERE IS SOME ADAPTABILITY IN THESE GUIDELINES FOR FOR LOOKING FOR RELIEF OR WHATEVER FOR PRIVATE CITIZENS? > > ALLEVIATION FOR WHICH ELEMENT ARE YOU> TALKING ABOUT? > > THE REQUIRED TREE– IS BARRIERS ALONG >> ROADS. > > OH, THE STREET TREES. FOR STREET TREES, YES T CURRENT PROVISION THERE IS ALLOWANCE TO REQUEST THEM IN THE RIGHT OF WAY IN WHICH UH THEY WOULD OTHERWISE BE REQUIRED TO BE PUT ON PERSONAL PROPERTY. > > NOW THAT YOU ' VE MENTIONED PERSONAL PROPERTY, >> SO THIS IS– AND ALSO I HAVEN ' T GONE INTO THIS COMPREHENSIVE. THERE IS'A REQUIREMENT FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY PROPRIETORS TO PLANT OR LEAVE SPECIFIC PERCENTS OF CANOPY TREES? > > USUALLY THE TREE SECURITY IS MORE COMMON >> OPEN SPACE FOR THE SUBDIVISIONS SO IT WOULDN ' T– UNLESS IT ' S A VERY SMALL CLASS, USUALLY TRE INSURANCE COVERAGE OR PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT ON THE LOT-BY-LOT IF WE'' RE TALKING ABOUT SUBURBAN TIER.

>> > > OKAY. AND ALSO ONE LAST INQUIRY, AND I ASK THIS BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE. WHEN THERE IS A REQUIREMENT ON THE SIDE OF A PROPERTY AT THE STREET FOR PARTICULAR PLANTINGS– AND ALSO I'' M SURE THERE WILL BE SOME CHOICES, TYPES OR WHATEVER FOR PLANTINGS AND TREES– EXISTS AN ALLOCATION FOR WAITING UNTIL THE BETTER TIME TO PLANT THEM, SAY IN THE SPRING, THE FALL, OR WHATEVER? I WAS INVOLVED IN ONE JOB DOWNTOWN AS WELL AS THIS WAS YEARS AGO, AS WELL AS WE HAD A SPECIFIC VARIETY OF DAYS TO GET THESE GROWING IN THE GROUND AND ALSO IT WAS SUMMER SEASON, HOT AS YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT, AND ALSO DRY. AS WELL AS WE DIDN'' T HAVE ANY RAIN FOR WEEKS and also weeks. THEY ALL DIED. I ' M HOPING THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE SOME– > > THERE ARE CURRENTLY GROWING OR BONDING OF DELAYED- LANDSCAPE DESIGN UNTIL APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THAT GROWING. >> > > I DESPISE TO BE PICKY, BUT IT JUST IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF ISSUES WITH SEVERAL OF THESE THINGS, BUT I'' M NOT GOING TO BRING THEM UP NOW SINCE I NEED TO READ IT A LITTLE CLOSER, BUT I'' M GOING SUPPORT THIS, TOO, SINCE I LIKE TREE COVERS AND WE DO NOT REQUIREMENT TO COMPLY WITH WHAT RALEIGH OR CARY OR WHATEVER DOES.DURHAM HAS ITS OWN

SCENARIOS. IT ' S GREAT TO OBTAIN SUGGESTIONS FROM OTHER AREAS, BUT WE NEED TO SONG TO OUR OWN DESIGNS FAMILY MEMBER TO WHAT WE ARE HAVE GOING ON HERE. THAT'' S ALL, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> > MANY THANKS. I'' LL ENTERTAIN An ACTIVITY CURRENTLY. >> > > MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE An ACTIVITY THAT WE SEND PRODUCT TC 1800005 MESSAGE CHANGE TREE COVERAGE AND LANDSCAPE REVISIONS ONWARD WITH A FAVORABLE REFERRAL. >> > > PROPERLY MOTIONED. >> > > SECOND. > > SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. WE'' LL HAVE A ROLL PHONE CALL BALLOT, PLEASE. [ROLL CALL VOTE]>. > > UNWILLINGLY, YES. > > [CALL VOTE PROCEEDS]>. > >'MOVEMENT PASSES 10-1. > > THANK YOU. WE ' RE ON OUR FINAL PRODUCT THIS NIGHT. PUBLIC HEARINGS: TEXT AMENDMENTS WITH REZONING. TC1800009/Z1800030 PATTERSON AREA COMPACT SUBURBAN DESIGN DISTRICT. I WILL CERTAINLY ADVISE YOU IF YOU HAVE NOT AUTHORIZED UP FOR PUBLIC REMARK PERIOD, YOU MAY DO SO OR SIMPLY PERMIT ME TO KNOW.WE ' LL BEGINNING WITH THE TEAM REPORT. >> > > CHAIR BUZBY REAL QUICK PRIOR TO WE GET GOING. I INTENDED TO SEE TO IT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW HOW THE BALLOT TAKE PLACE THIS SPECIFIC CASE T ORDER OF INSTANCES. THE TC INSTANCE MUST BE ELECTED ON FIRST. THEN THE ZONING INSTANCE, AFTER THAT THE 3RD ITEM YOU TO VOTE O IS THE ROAD NETWORK PLAN. SO THERE'' S THREE ITEMS TO >> VOTE ON. > > THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >> > > LISA MILLER WITH THE INTENDING DEPARTMENT. I'' M HERER THIS EVENING TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER CASE TC 1830 THE PAERSON PLACE COMPACT SUBURBAN DESIGN DISTRICT.—- AS WELL AS LAST THINK FUTURE ROAD NETWORK PLAN FOR COMPACT AREA TIER. IF YOU RECALL MY UH PRESENTATION AT THE JANUARY 3RD PLANNING PAYMENT AS AN EDUCATIONAL THING FOCUSED ON THE BACKGROUND OF THE PROJECT FROM BOTH PREPARING AND PLAN POINT OF VIEW ALONG WITH PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS THAT'' S BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS AS WELL AS THE EXISTING STYLE DISTRICT STRUCTURE THAT IS IN AREA FOR THE COMPACT LAYOUT AREA IN THE NINTH ROAD LOCATION AND FOR THE DOWNTOWN STYLE DISTRICT.FOR THIS DISCUSSION I ' M GOING TO FOCUS ON BRIEFLY TYPE OF BACKUP A SECONDLY AND ALSO SPEAK ABOUT PLAN STRUCTURE FOR WHY THIS PROJECT IN TIS AREA AT THIS TIME. I ' M AFTER THAT GOING TO DISCUSS EMPHASIS ON THE DIFFERENCES IN THE AMENDMENTS BETWEEN THE COMPACT SUBURBAN STYLE DISTRICT WITH THE EXISTING STYLE AREAS RECOGNIZING THERE ' S COMMONALITIES WITH ALL 3'OF THEM. I ' LL SPEAK ABOUT SOME PARTICULAR WSZ THE ZONING MAP MODIFICATION, DETAILS OF FUTURE STREET NETWORK AND THEN UPCOMING ACTIONS IN THE PROJECT TIMELINE. SIMPLY TO TAKE A GO BACK FAR MINUTE. WHAT ARE DESIGN AREAS? A FEW OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD THIS PRIOR TO, BUT LAYOUT DISTRICTS ARE OUR FORM-BASED ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE PLANNED AND ALSO BY POLICY WE ' RE DIRECTED TO BE POSITIONING WITHIN OUR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD TIERS IN ORDER TO CREATE GRADUALLY AS REDEVELOPMENT HAPPENS HIGH DENSITY, MIXED USE, AND MULTIMOW TALL-FRIENDLY DEVELOPMENT.THERE ' S OBVIOUSLY A SELECTION OF CHARACTERISTICS

THAT OCCUR WITH THIS. GREATER HEIGHTS AND STRENGTHS, A COMBINATION OF LAND UTILIZES AND ALSO SORT OF UNIFYING UTILIZES THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE DISTRICT OVERALL. REALLY FOCUSING ON HOW THE BUILDINGS CONNECT WITH PUBLIC SPACE ALONG THE ROAD AND ALSO CREATING GREATER CONNECTION OF ROAD NETWORK IN ORDER T ADVERTISE GREATER TRANSPORT SELECTIONS, STREET LAYOUT CA ALSO DO THAT. SIMPLY A FEW ADDITIONAL POLICY ITEMS ASSOCIATED TO THE PARTICULAR PLACE FOR PATTERSON PLACE.IN-THIS LOCATION WAS DEVELOPED AT AS A COUNTRY TRANSPORTATION LOCATION AT THE TIME OF 2005 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS IMPLEMENTED. THOSE ARE SORT OF SEEN AS A COMPACT COMMUNITY LIGHT OR BECOME FUTURE SMALL COMMUNITIES. THE CONCEPT OF PRODUCING AN AREA WITH COMBINED USAGE, GREATER STRENGTH ADVANCEMENT FOR THIS AREA HAS BEEN IN POSITION FOR 13 YEARS. WE ALSO IN THE SUMMER OF 2016, BOTH CITY AND REGION CHOSE OFFICIALS ACCEPTED THE EXISTING SMALL AREA BORDER AS WELL AS TRANSFORMED TO THT DESIGNATION FROM THE PREVIOUS SUBURBAN TRANSPORTATION AREA DESIGNATION. BACK THEN, THEY ALSO AUTHORIZED THE ADJUSTMENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USAGE WITHIN TH COMPACT AREA TO STYLE IMPLICATING THE FUTURE ZONING WITHIN THAT LIMIT WAS TO BE DESIGN DISTRICT.AS WELL I WISHED TO MENTION THE JOINT CITY-COUNTY PREPARATION COMMITTEE HS DIRECTED PLANNING PERSONNEL TO WORK TOWARDS CITY-IMPLEMENTED OF DESIGN DISTRICT ZONING FOR COMPACT COMMUNITY TIERS. PROXIMITY OF THIS LOCATION TO TWO HIGH VOLUME TRANSPORT PASSAGES IN U.S. 15-501 AND I 40 AS WELL AS SUGGESTED PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION POSITIONING SET THIS UP AS HIGH INTENSITY LOCATION BOTH CURRENTLY AS WELL AS IN TRANSPORTATION FORM THAT IS -USED. ADDITIONALLY, THERE ' S ONGOING EFFORT TO REIMAGINE THE 15-501 PASSAGE. RESEARCH HIGHLIGHTED THE DEMAND FOR MULTIMOW TALL CONNECTION UH BOTH ACRSS 15-501 AND ALSO THROUGH 15-501 AS REGIONAL ACTIVITY. THEALITY A TIS FOR THIS SEGMENT OF THIS RESEARCH THAT HAS COME OUT OF PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT INCLUDE CONSIDERABLE IMPROVEMENTS FOR BIKE AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY.CORRIDOR MIGHT NEVER BEEN THE EXCELLENT FRIEND TO THE PORTABLE NEIGHBORHOOD, PERSONNEL MPO DURHAM AND ALSO CHURCH HILLSIDE ARE COLLABORATING TO LOWER UNFAVORABLE I78 PACT OF THIS MAJOR TRANSPORT HALLWAY OF ALL CORRIDOR OF WHERE 15-501 AS WELL AS I 40 FEET. CONSIDERABLE SYCHRONISATION IN COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING OF THOSE 4 QUAD GRANTS, THE SOUTHWEST KWAUT DRANT THE S THE GAIT DELAY, NORTH SOUTHWEST EASTOWNE AREA WHERE UNC IS PLANNING AND DOING A LOT OF GROWTH, THE OTHER 2 KWAUT RANTS ARE INCORPORATED BY THE PATTERSON LOCATION COMPACT NEIGHBOR HOODZ. LASTLY, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SEEING SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH. 20 INDIVIDUALS A DAY TURNS UP A WHOLE LOT. WE AS An AREA ARE TRYING TO FIND MEANS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH. THE COMPACT AREA TIER FRAMEWORK PERMITS United States TO SUIT THAT WITHIN CITY LIMITS WHERE THAT GROWTH CAN OCCUR WITHOUT RUINING EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE AS WELL AS TRANSPORTS AS WELL AS UTILITIES ALREADY EXIST WITH MUCH EASIER ACCESSIBILITY TO EXISTING SERVICES AND IN AFTEROVERALL EVEN MORE MAINTAIN ABLE FASHION. WITH THAT POLICY STRUCTURE IN MIND I ' LL GO THROUGH INFORMATION AND FACTS OF THE PROPOSED THINGS WE ' RE REQUESTING FOR YOUR FACTOR TO CONSIDER ON. THE FIRST CASE IS MESSAGE MODIFICATION TO GREAT NEW COMPACT SUBURBAN LAYOUT DISTRICT.THE PURPOSE IS FOR IT TO BE APPLIED IN COMPACT AREA TIERS WITH EXISTING PERSONALITY IS EVEN MORE SUBURBAN IN NATURE WHEREAS ITS LESS SPACE CONSTRAINED THAN AREAS IN DOWNTOWN OR COMPACT STYLE DISTRICTS ARE APPLIED. PROVIDES MORE FLEXIBILITY

OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE REQUIREMENT. THIS NEW AREA WILL CERTAINLY MAKE USE OF STRUCTURE FOR LAYOUT DISTRICTS WHICH CONSISTS OF THE FACILITY OF BELOW DISTRICTS. YOU TIN SEE IN THE GRAPHIC RIGHT HERE DOING THE TAPERING FROM THE CORE BENT ON THE SUPPORT TWO SUB DISTRICT IN THE SURROUNDING TYPICALLY RESIDENTIAL ADVANCEMENT. STRUCTURE CONSISTS OF PAYMENT PLACEMENT, MINIMUM AS WELL AS MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND ALSO THICKNESS REGULATIONS, USAGE OF STRUCTURE AS WELL AS FRONTAGE KIND, COMPONENTS OF STRUCTURE STYLE AS WELL AS SHAPE PUBLIC ROOM, CONSISTS OF STYLE FACILITY MAKE SURE STANDARD DEGREE OF GOOD STYLE, DEMANDS FOR BRAND-NEW STREETS, MAXIMUM BLOCK SIZES AND PROVISIONS FOR PBLIC FACE ALONG THE ROAD THAT WE RAPPORT AS STREETSCAPE.WHILE THE FRAMEWORK FOR THAT AREA– PAGING 3-6 OF YOUR STAFF RECORD EXIST EXTENSIVELY THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED. JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM BRIEFLY BELOW STARTING POST 16 WHICH IS DESIGN AREA AND AFTER THAT GOING VIA CHANGES TO OTHER SHORT ARTICLES. THE HAND AREA OF ARTICLE 16 ESTABLISHES MINIMUM AS WELL AS MAXIMUM THICKNESS BASED ON DISTRICTINGS THAT ARE ENABLED BY-RIGHT. IT ALSO GETS RID OF THE THICKNESS MAXIMUM FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT UTILIZE ECONOMICAL HOUSING BENEFITS WHICH I ' LL DISCUSS LATER.THIS SECTION ALSO CONSISTS OF ARRANGEMENTS FOR THICK SOLITARY AS WELL AS 2 FAMILY RESIDENCE DEN SMALL ONLY THE SUPPORT 2 BELOW AREAS AS LONG AS IT DROPS WITHIN ALLOWING THICKNESS SERIES OF 9-15 DEVICES PER ACRE. THIS ALSO INCLUDE FACILITY OF TRANSITIONAL USAGE AREA THAT IS SA 200-FOOT LOCATION DETERMINED FROM TIER BOUNT RI WHERE ASSISTANCE 1 LIMIT IS NEARBY TO THAT BORDER REQUIRING ANY ADVANCEMENT IN THAT AREA WOULD CALL FOR MAJOR UNIQUE USAGE

LICENSE APPROVAL ESTABLISHING EXCEPTIONS FOR EXISTING ADVANCEMENT AND PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AS WELL AS HAS CERTAIN REVIEW FACTORS THAT INCLUDE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, [INDISCERNIBLE] AS WELL AS VARIOUS OTHER VARIABLES. NEXT IS SITE STYLE. AS MENTIONED WE HAVE MORE AREA AS DEALING WITH EXISTING SUBURBAN CHARACTER. AREA, AREA WHERE STRUCTURE HAS-TO BE SITUATED WITH RESPECT TO VISUAL. 15-25 FEET AS OPPOSED TO 12-18 THAT ' S IN AREA FOR OTHER LAYOUT AREAS. WE ' RE ALSO PROPOSING TO RELABEL OPEN SPACE TO PUBLIC ROOM SIMPLY TO INDICATE A VARIOUS ARK TER FROM THE OPEN ROOM REQUIREMENTS THAT REMAIN IN LOCATION FOR OUR RESIDENTIAL CLASS WHICH WOULD APPLY IN ALL DESIGN DISTRICTS.WE ' VE LOWERED THRESHOLD IN URBAN FOR WHEN PUBLIC SPACE IS REQUIRED ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL AS INCREASED PERCENT REQUIRED FROM 2%IN OTHER DISTRICTS TO 5%BELOW. FOLLOWING AREA HANDLE BUILDING DESIGN. IN THE COMPACT SUBURBAN DESIGN AREA, THERE WERE NO STRUCTURE OR FRONTAGE KIND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WISHED TO NOT SEE IN ANY PATICULAR SUB DISTRICT SO ALL OF THEM ARE ALLOWED. WE HAVE INCLUDED ADJUSTMENTS TO THE FRONTAGE KIND NEEDS WHERE THE ROAD FRONTAGE IS ALONG A HIGHWAY AND ALSO THAT PUTS ON ALL DESIGN AREAS NOT JUST TO THIS ONE. THIS AREA DEVELOPS MAXIMUM as well as minimum HEIGHTS BOTH PODIUM HEIGHT WHICH IS INITIAL HEIGHT THE BUILD KG GO UP BEFORE IT HAS TO STEP BACK AND ALSO 10 MAXIMUM OVERALL ELEVATION AND AFTERWARDS ONCE MORE DEVELOPS AN INCREASE IN ELEVATION THAT ' S ENABLED USING AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONUS.FOR THIS TASK, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGED TO DO IS TO MODESTLY INCREASE BY-RIGHT DENSITY FROM WHAT ' S EXISTING. BASICALLY UH WHAT WE ' RE DOING IS TRYING TO MAKE CERTAIN BY-RIGHT DENSITY IS THE MINIMUM ESSENTIAL TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT TRANSIT-SUPPORTIVE.

> > I ' D LIKE THE ASK THIS QUESTION OF PERSONNEL, PLEASE. > > MICHAEL ' S POINT IS WELL TAKEN THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT CHANCES IN TYPICALLY IN URBAN VERSE United States SUBURBAN. > > NO. > > THAT ' S WONDERFUL. > > JUST COUPLE COMMENTS.IF YOU PUT ON ' T NEED 4 MINS I URGE YOU TO NOT USE IT, BUT IF YOU REQUIRED IT TO SAY WHAT ' S IMPORTANT THIS IS SA BIG CONCERN AS WELL AS WE WANT TO ALLOW APPROPRIATE TIME.THOSE SIGNED UP TO TALK FOR THE PROPOSAL– 3 INDIVIDUAL WHO IS HAVE AUTHORIZED UP TO SAY I ' M TALKING IN SUPPORT WITHOUT CAVEATS SO WE ' LL BEGIN WITH THOSE THREE PEOPLE: PATRICK BYKER, JAY HIKES, AND JIM SABARO. I ' M HERE THIS EVENING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE STAFF SUGGESTION SHOWED IN THE PERSONNEL REPORT THAT ' S BEFORE YOU TONITE AND OVER THE YEARS MORNINGSTAR LEGISLATION GROUP HAS ACTUALLY REPRESENTED MANY RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THIS SUGGESTED STYLE AREA BUT TONIGHT I ' M RIGHT HERE ON PART OF THE OWNERSHIP GROUP THAT HAS APPROXIMATELY 100 ACRES REFERRED TO AT OAK RIDGE 58 ASSEMBLAGE.IF THIS IS APPROVE PROPOSAL THE CITY COUNCIL NO LATER THAN IN APRIL AND SHOWN IN THE PERSONNEL REPORT, WE ' LL OFFER A MESSAGE ONLY GROWTH PLAN. WE ' VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LIGHT RAIL, ABOUT 15-501 AS WELL AS CLEARLY WE ' VE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS ESPECIALLY PATTERSON PLACE.WHAT WE HAVE An EXTREMELY DISTINCT SCENARIO WHERE WE ' RE WE HAVE OBTAINED MAIN DAG BETWEEN DURHAM AS WELL AS CHAPEL HILL, BETWEEN TWO COLLEGES, TWO MEDICALS GOING ACROSS A TRANS CONTINENTAL FREEWAY.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SIGNED UP TO TALK AND ON AN ISSUE THAT COMPLICATED IT ' S NOT UNEXPECTED THAT IT ' S NOT AS CLEAR CUT THAT THERE WERE A FEW FOLKS FOR IT AND AGAINST IT SOME FOLKS SAY THEY ' RE PARTIALLY FOR I AND AGAINST IT. IF YOU DON ' T NEED 4 MINUTES I MOTIVATE YOU TO NOT USE IT, BUT IF YOU NEED IT TO SAY WHAT ' S VITAL THIS IS SA BIG PROBLEM AS WELL AS WE WANT TO ALLOW APPROPRIATE TIME.THOSE SIGNED UP TO TALK FOR THE PROPOSITION– THREE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS HAVE SIGNED UP TO SAY I ' M TALKING IN FAVOR WITHOUT CAVEATS SO WE ' LL START WITH THOSE THREE INDIVIDUALS: PATRICK BYKER, JAY HIKES, AND JIM SABARO. I ' M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE PERSONNEL RECOMMENDATION SHOWED IN THE PERSONNEL REPORT THAT ' S PRIOR TO YOU TONITE AND OVER THE YEARS MORNINGSTAR REGULATION TEAM HAS STOOD FOR LOTS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY PROPRIETORS WITHIN THIS PROPOSED STYLE AREA BUT TONIGHT I ' M BELOW ON PART OF THE POSSESSION GROUP THAT OWNS APPROXIMATELY 100 ACRES REFERRED TO AT OAK RIDGE 58 ASSEMBLAGE.IF THIS IS AUTHORIZE BID THE CITY COUNCIL NO LATER THAN IN APRIL AND ALSO MIRRORED IN THE TEAM REPORT, WE ' LL OFFER A MESSAGE ONLY ADVANCEMENT PLAN. WE ' VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LIGHT RAIL, ABOUT 15-501 AND ALSO CLEARLY WE ' VE HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS AND PARTICULARLY PATTERSON PLACE.WHAT WE HAVE An EXTREMELY DISTINCT CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE ' RE WE HAVE GOT MAIN DAG BETWEEN DURHAM AND CHAPEL HILLSIDE, BETWEEN TWO UNIVERSITIES, 2 MEDICALS CROSSING A TRANS CONTINENTAL FREEWAY. I ' M HAPPY TO SEE THAT PERSONNEL HAS ACTUALLY PICKED UP ON SOME OF THE THEY as well as suggestions INCLUDED LINKS THAT I ' M SHOWING ON MY BIG MAP– I DN ' T EVEN HAVE A DUPLICATE OF MY SET.> > SO I ' LL SIMPLY START WITH 2 E QUESTIONS.ONE FOR STAFF AND ONE UH FOR MRS. EXCITEMENT. > > THANK YOU.AND SO MY INQUIRY, HOPEFULLY MY PEERS WILL ASK OTHER INQUIRIES, MY QUESTION FOR MS. TRAYHO IS YOU ' RE ASKING FOR BASICALLY AN EXEMPTION FOR YOUR CLIENT, TE OWNERS OF NEW HOPE COMMONS SHOPPING COMPLICATED, AND ALSO SO AS I UH APPEARANCE AT WHAT ' S PROPOSED, MY REASONING IS THAT THIS WILL INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE OWNERS OF THIS FACILITY SIMPLY SIMPLY FROM A HIGHEST AND ALSO BEST USE STAND.SO PAST THAT WHAT DO YOU SEE THIS PROPOSITION NEEDING YOU TO DO SAY FROM A COST INCLUDED PRICE THAT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO DO WITH THE EXISTING ZONING THAT YOU HAVE? > > I THINK AS MUCH AS THESE AREAS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REZONED, YOU KNOW, THERE ' S GOT TO BE WELL-DEFINED PROPERTY LIMITS IN THE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN REZONED SO I CAN ' T SEE BOUNDARY WOULD BE An ISSUE.

> > THANK YOU. > > I SE THIS AS THE ANTEDOTE TO THE TROUBLES OF THE 260 FOOT AS WELL AS SOMETIMES 310 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY FOR 15-501. > > SO I ' LL JUST BEGIN WITH 2 E QUESTIONS.ONE FOR PERSONNEL AS WELL AS ONE UH FOR MRS. ADVENTURE. > > THANK YOU.AND SO MY CONCERN, HOPEFULLY MY PEERS WILL ASK VARIOUS OTHER CONCERNS, MY INQUIRY FOR MS. TRAYHO IS YOU ' RE ASKING FOR BASICALLY AN EXCEPTION FOR YOUR CLIENT, TE OWNERS OF NEW HOPE COMMONS PURCHASING FACILITY, AND ALSO SO AS I UH APPEARANCE AT WHAT ' S PROPOSED, MY REASONING IS THAT THIS WILL ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THE PROPRIETORS OF THIS COMPLEX JUST JUST FROM A HIGHEST AND ALSO BEST USE STAND.SO BEYOND THAT WHAT DO YOU SEE THIS PROPOSITION NEEDING YOU TO DO SAY FROM A COST INCLUDED PRICE THAT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO DO WITH THE EXISTING ZONING THAT YOU HAVE? > > I BELIEVE AS FAR AS THESE AREAS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REZONED, YOU UNDERSTAND, THERE ' S GOT TO BE DISTINCT PROPERTY BORDERS IN THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN REZONED SO I TIN ' T SEE BOUNDARY WOULD BE A TROUBLE.IN THE CASE OF AN EXISTING USE, THERE ARE, YOU RECOGNIZE THAT USAGE CONTAINER CONTINUE, THE ABILITY FOR THAT USAGE TO TRANSFORM WITHIN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, BU WHEN YOU COME IN TO START PRODUCTION CHANGES, THEN WHAT WE APPEARANCE AT IF IT'' S A NON-CONFORMING FRAMEWORK– WHICH A SOLITARY HOUSEHOLD STRUCTURE MAY BE– AFTER THAT WE WOULD APPEARANCE AT WHETHER THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION MAKES EVEN MORE ADHERING AS THE THRESHOLD.SO IT ' S A PRETTY, IT'' S A PRETTY VERSATILE– ESPECIALLY CON PAIRED TO NON-CONFORMING USAGE RESTRICTIONS WHICH ARE MORE RESTRICTIVE, THEN THAT IS QUITE– IT MUST BE A FAIRLY VERY EASY SITUATION TO MAKE. >> > > OKAY. REFERRING TO THIS SHEET BELOW, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE CORE SUB AREA IS RATHER UNEVEN ABOUT THE AREA– PROPOSED AREA– OF THE TERMINAL, AS WELL AS WE ALREADY SAW A PROPOSITION TO MAKE PUSH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT; WHAT DOES STAFF THINK OF THAT? >> > > SO WE DID SLIGHTLY UH EXPAND IT BASED ON PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED TO PUSH IT TO THE WEST, AND I THINK COMPONENTS OF THE THINKING TERE IS BECAUSE THERE'' S EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS, WHERE AS THE AREA PARTICULARLY TO THE ACROSS SOUTHWEST DURHAM DRIVE, SOUTH OF THE FORD DEALERSHIP, THERE'' S NOT EXISTING ADVANCEMENT IN A LARGE PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY. SO PUSHING THE CORE INTO THAT WAS NOT NEESSARILY DESIRABLE. KEEP THE CORE SMALL IN ORDER TO MAKE CERTAIN THERE IS A LARGE AREA IN THE SUPPORT ONE WHERE THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BENEFIT HAS A REALLY BIG POSSIBILITY INFLUENCE. >> > > O.K.. SUGGESTION THAT WAS MADE, I THINK, AT YOUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WAS MABE SHRINKING THE CORE AREA JUST A BIT AS WELL AS SETTING UP A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE– '' CUZ ONCE WE REPAIR THE CORE IT'' S GOING TO BE THERE– HAVE A CORE AN LOCATION THT COULD BE CORE OR SUPPORT ONE AS WELL AS LEAVE IT AS MUCH AS SEE WHAT DEVELOPERS WOULD BRING IN, AND I'' VE OBSERVED THIS HASN ' T ALTERED ANY SO I TAKE IT THAT POINTER DIDN'' T GO OVER EXTREMELY WELL? > > WELL,'WHAT WE ' RE SUGGESTING IS WHAT EXISTED BASED ON THE PUBLIC PROCEDURE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, AND ALSO WE DID REACT TO THE INPUT THAT WE LEARNT THROUGH THOSE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROCESS.THAT IS NOT SO SAY UH

THAT THERE COULDN ' T BE A MODIFICATION BUT UH FROM THE INFORMATIVE PRODUCT TO THE PUBLIC HEARING IN FRNT OF YOU DIDN ' T LOOK LIKE THE'IDEAL TIME TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. > > MANY THANKS. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A VARIETY OF LITTLE NIT PICKY MATTERS BUT I'' M GOING THE SAVE THM UNTIL LATER. > > GREAT. CANISTER ' T WAIT, THANK YOU >>. > > SORRY, YOU'' RE GOING TO HAVE EVERY ONE OF MY COMMENTS AS WELL AS QUESTIONS BASED ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING PART WITH ONE RELATED BUT NON-DENSITY REWARD FACTOR ARE COMMENT THERE'' S An ARRANGEMENT THAT CLAIMED THAT PAYDAY LENDERS ARE LIMITED IN ONE AREA AS WELL AS PERMITTED OUTRIGHT IN THE REST AND I WOULD SIMILAR TO TO VOICE MY COMPLETE RESISTANCE TO ANY PAYDAY LENDERS ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'' RE TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONDUCIVE AS WELL AS TAKING INDIVIDUALS TO THIS AREA, THEY'' RE PREDATORY AS WELL AS MUST NOT BE PERMITTED AT ALL– AS AN ASIDE. MY INQUIRY ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BENEFITS, I HAVE A FEW BUT THE FIRST IS THESE PLANNED TO APPLY UH TO BOTH LEASING AND POSSESSION REAL ESTATE? IT'' S NOT MADE CLEAR BUT IT'' S UNCLEAR THAT IT WOULD RELATE TO BOTH.

>> > > YEAH. >> > > OK. HOW WOULD THEY BE IMPLEMENTED? >> > > TO ENSURE THAT ' S SOMETHING THAT, ONCE AGAIN, WE ' RE WORKING WITH WITH THE COMMUNITY REGULATION INTERNMENT. I WEAR ' T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYMORE INFORMATION. >> > >'WE ' RE COLLABORATING WITH OUR STRUCTURE DIVISION TO FIND UP WITH A GUIDEBOOK FOR THE ENFORCEMENT STANDARDS FOR ECONOMICAL HOUSING THICKNESS REWARDS SINCE IT IS ALREADY IN PLACE IN THE PORTABLE COMMUNITY. >> > > THERE WASN ' T LANGUAGE IN THE PROPOSED TEXT CHANGE THAT WOULD MAKE IT CLEAR THT YOU WERE LINKED TO SOME KND OF LAWS and also guidelines AND ALSO WHILE THOSE COULD MODIFICATION I THINK IT MUST BE JOY THAT THERE'' S AN ENFORCEMENT DEVICE AND ALSO RULES TO FOLLOW SO IF IT'' S POSSESSION POSSIBLY THERE'' S An ACTION RESTRICTION.IF IT ' S

RENTAL TO MAKE OCCUPANTS MINDFUL THAT THEY'' RE IN A CONTROLLED STATE BECAUSE OTHERWISE INDIVIDUALS ARE OPERATING IN A VACUUM CLEANER BUT I DON'' T THINK YOU HAVE TO DESCRIBE THOSE IN THE MESSAGE BUT IT REQUIRES TO WEB LINK TO SOMETHING WHERE IT'' S CLEAR THAT THERE ARE POLICIES [INDISTINCT] I PUT ON'' T THINK IT DOES THAT RIGHT >> NOW. > > I BELIEVE ITS IN THE 6.6, AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE THICKNESS PERK SECTION DOES LAY OUT WAT THE CITY CAN DO TO APPLY IT WHICH– >> > >'IT ' S IN THE CODE BUT NOT IN THE HANDOUT. > > OKAY. GOT IT. EXCELLENT TO KNOW. ONE THING KIND OF TO BOTH NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD OCCUR BUT ALSO EXISTING NATURALLY OCCURRING NON-REGULATED AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE; IS THERE ANY– HOW DO WE KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY LOW INCOME OR UNDER 60% AMI GOING TO BE THE RENTERS WHILE LEAS COULD BE LOWER THAT DOESN'' T MEAN LESSEES ARE IN FACT LOW INCOME P.IT COULD BE HIGHER MIDDLE INCOME INDIVIDUALS BENEFITING FROM LOWER RENT WHICH I DON'' T THINK THAT WAS THE OBJECTIVE OF ANY OF >> THIS. > > RIGHT. THERE ' S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT WE CONTAINER DO TO MANAGE THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE WITH THE NATURALLY OCCURRING PRICE. IF WE WERE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT COST, AFTER THAT THAT WOULD COME WITH THE INCOME RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE ALSO IN LOCATION FOR THE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE CREATED UNDER THE ECONOMICAL HOUSING BONUS OFFERS. >> > > I GUESS ARE THERE– THERE WAS MENTION OF INCENTIVES TO PRESERVING NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE AS WELL AS EXISTS ANY ACTIVITY ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? >> > > THAT IS NOT BEEN CLEARED OUT NOW HAVE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TELL YOU THIS IS HOW WE DO THAT UH BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FAIRLY A BIT AS AN ESSENTIAL CONCERN FOR NOT JUST TRANSIT AREAS BUT IN GENERAL LOOKING AT AREAS WHERE THERE IS NATURALLY-OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT THAT'' S A TERRIFIC CHANCE AND A LOWER EXPENSE OPPORTUNITY THAN DEVELOPING THE BRAND-NEW ADVANCEMENT GIVING THOSE DEVICES.

>> > > MY LAST CONCERN IS FOR HOW LONG THE REGULATORY RESTRICTIONS OR RESTRICTIONS IN GENERAL WOULD PUT ON HOUSING UNDER THE PERKS FRAMEWORK. >> > > THREE DECADES >>. > > OKAY. >> THANKS. > > THANKS. >> COMMISSIONER'AL-TURK. > > THANK YOU. I ' D LIKE TO ECHO COMMISSIONER BRINE ' S MANY THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND ALSO FOR THE REMARKS. WE GOT A GREAT DEAL OF GOOD FEED WAK. WE HAVE A HUGE PACKAGE, AND ALSO I WISH TO SAY THANKS TO LISA FOR THE TEAM RECORD. IT'' S COMPREHENSIVE AND ALSO ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS I VALUED REGARDING IT IS THAT YOU KEEP IN MIND THERE WILL CERTAINLY LIKELY BE SOME DOWNSIDE EFFECTS. I'' M GOING TO ASK YOU SOME EVEN MORE ABOUT THAT AS WELL AS SORT OF FOLLOW-UP ON COMISSIONER DUR KIP'' S CONCERNS REGARDING HOUSING. I'' LL BEGIN WITH SOMETHING THAT STRUCK ME AND ALSO SOME I MNENTIONED LAST TIME. [CAPTIONS WILL RETURN MOMENTARILY] WE HAVE NEVER DONE A TYPE OF STRICT FORM-BASED CODE WHERE WE SEPARATION USAGE FROM THOSE KIND STANDARDS AN DON'' T HAVE OBJECTIVE TO DO THAT, BUT, , ONE OF THE POTENTIAL OBJECTIONS WHICH YOU HEARD FROM THE REP OF AMONG THE PRESENT RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY PROPRIETORS IS THAT REGULATING THE KINDS AND THE STREETSCAPE AND STYLE ELEMENTS IS VERY LIMITING, SO WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR TYPICAL LAND USAGE, YOUR COMMON ZONING OF COMMERCIAL, THERE'' S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ARE'LIMITATIONS ON WHAT YOU'CAN ' T, LIKE WHAT YOU ' RE BUILDING NEEDS TO APPEAR LIKE, WHAT THE PUBLIC AREA AROUND THE ROOM AROUND THE BUILDING AND WE ' RE PUTTING A WHOLE LOT MORE FOCUS ON THAT PARTICULAR, SO IN ORDER TO– IN SOME RESPECTS IT ' S OFFSETTING SOME THAT WE'' RE ALLOWING GREATER ADAPTABILITY FOR YOUR INTERIOR ROOM AS WELL AS IF WE BEGINNING GETTING INTO A SPECIFIC REQUIRED MIX OF USES, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE'' S TROUBLES IN OBTAINING FINANCING FOR– IT'' S HARDER TO OBTAIN FINANCING FOR MIXED USE THAN IT IS FOR SIMPLE USAGE PROJECTS.ADDING THOSE 2 POINTS WITH EACH OTHER APPEARS LIKE IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM TO ACTUALLY OBTAIN IMPUTATION OF THIS VISION WE HAVE FOR UH HOW THIS LOCATION MODIFICATIONS. > > THANKS. I AM WORRIED REGARDING >> THIS SINCE I ASSUME THAT WE ARE POTENTIALLY UH CRATING SOME UNINTENDED– WE DON ' T KNOW WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS WILL CERTAINLY BE ESPECIALLY ON HOUSING BTH SUPPLY AND ALSO COSTS OF REAL ESTATE AROUND, AS WELL AS I, IF UH YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE WE OBTAINED ADD-ON A WAS FROM A FEW YEARS EARLIER AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WERE 30% OF UNITS IN THIS FIELD WERE AFFORDABLE UP UH TO 60 %AMI OR LESS. CONTAINER WE DO ANYTHING TO QUIT THA, I ' M NOT EXACTLY SURE WE CONTAINER, BUT I'AM CONCERNED THAT WE ' RE GOING– YOU UNDERSTAND, WE'DON ' T KNOW WHAT THE'CONSEQUENCES ARE. WE MAY BE ENCOURAGING EVEN MORE COMMERCIAL RIGHT HERE. WE MAY BE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BUILD GOOD HOUSES THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE AT ALL.I ' M REALLY, I, TO COMMISSIONER DURKIN

' S POINT CONCERNING HOW CONTAINER WE PRESERVE NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE UNITS, I ' M UNSURE THERE ' S ANYTHING IN BELOW THAT DOES THAT AND IT'' S FEASIBLE THAT WE ' RE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPOSITE IMPACT. I CHECKED OUT SOME OF THE– WE GOT OUR TAX OBLIGATION EXAMINATIONS RECENTLY AND LOOKED AT SEVERAL OF THOSE AROUND THERE AS WELL AS THEY HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY. I ' M UNCERTAIN HOW THAT WILL CERTAINLY FACTOR RIGHT INTO LEASINGS AS WELL AS ALL THAT, BUT I ' M REALLY WORRIED AND I'GUESS MY, , MY BIG POINT IS THAT FROM EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICES RECORD WE SAW BIGGEST SCARCITY IS FOR SMALL UNITS, ONE-UNIT, 1 OR 2 PEOPLE, AS WELL AS I ' M UNSURE WE ' RE CREATING THOSE KINDS OF INCENTIVIZING THESE KINDS OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THIS FIELD. I GUESS MY BIG OR WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SAY OR SEE IS FOR United States TO REALLY E STRU RESEARCH STUDY THE IMPACTS OF THIS A LITTLE MORE.I ' D LIKE TO MENTION– I UNDERSTAND IT'' S HARD TO GET EXACT NUMBERS ON WHAT THE IMPACT OF THIS WILL BE, BUT I'' D LIKE TO MENTION JUST A PAIR MONTHS EARLIER WE PASSED AN MODIFICATION THAT SAID IF A COMMUNITY PROPOSED AN MPO, THE STAFF WILL LOOK RIGHT INTO HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT HOUSING SUPPLY AND ALL THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THIS. WE SHOULD TRULY EVALUATE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS AREA, WHAT IT WOULD DO TO SUPPLY. I UNDERSTAND THERE'' S A GREAT DEAL OF MOVING PIECES BUT I THINK IF WE GO THROUGH WITH THIS, WE ARE LIKELY, YOU KNOW, WE'' RE CREATING A PLAN THAT ' S AT PROBABILITIES WITH WHAT THE CITY STATES AIM IS TO PRODUCE OR HAVE 15% BUDGET FRIENDLY DEVICES AROUND TRANSIT STOPS AND WE'' RE ALREADY LOWER THAN THAT, AND ALSO MY DIGESTIVE TRACT TELLS ME THT THIS SIMPLY BASED ON THE REALITY THAT INDIVIDUALS, DEVELOPERS HAVE NOT USED THE DENSITY BONUS SIGNIFICANTLY OR AT ALL, I'' M SKEPTICAL THAT'' S GOING MODIFICATION IN THIS CASE. I'' M FRETTED IT ' S GOING TO ADVERTISE, ONCE AGAIN, MORE COMMERCIAL OR REDEVELOPMENT, SO I ' M

GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS.I THINK THE LAST CASE WE HAD ON LANDSCAPE AND ALSO TREES I HAD DOUBTS BUT I UH ELECTED IN FAVOR OF IT DUE TO THE FACT THAT I ASSUMED IT REMAINED IN THE RIGHT INSTRUCTIONS. I'' M WORRIED– SOMETHING THIS BIG IF WE PASS IT THE CONSEQUENCES OF IT MAY BE DOWNSIDE IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE CAN'' T UNDO. I ' M GOING TO BALLOT AGAINST IT AND A I ADVISE TO YOU DO THE >> SAME, MY COMMISSIONERS. > > THANKS. >> VICE CHAIR HYMAN. > > YES, I HAVE An INQUIRY FOR PERSONNEL. A COMPONENT OF A DISCUSSION THAT WAS MADE TO US SHOWED THAT A VARIETY OF CLIENTS WITHIN THIS COMPACT AREA INTEND TO OPT OUT OR BE SPARED, YOU UNDERSTAND, FROM ENGAGEMENT, AND ALSO MY INQUIRY TO YOU IS UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES COULD THAT HAPPEN? >> > > SO WE HAVE SOME PRETTY CONSIDERABLE EXTENSIVE STRATEGY POLICIES IN ADDITION TO STRAIGHT WORK PROGRAM AND ALSO INSTRUCTIONS FROM OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.TO PUT DESIGN DISTRICT ZONING IN POSITION IN COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD TIER. THAT'' S NOT TO SAY OBVIOUSLY WHEN THIS MOSTED LIKELY TO COUNCIL FOR THE REZONING FOR THEIR ACTION, THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO MODIFY THAT, BUT WE SEEM LIKE THERE IS SIGNIFICANT DIRECTION TO ADVANCE THAT FRONT AS WELL AS SUBSTANTIAL VALIDATION FOR WHY IT MUST NOT BE DETRIMENTAL FOR THAT ENTITY– IT'' S ONE ENTITY– TO BE COMPONENT OF THIS DISTRICT. THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT CALL. WE DON'' T FEEL THERE IS A GOOD SENSIBLE ARGUMENT FOR WHY W SHOULD ADVERTISE THAT. >> > > OK. THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THE INQUIRY WOULD BE, , ALLOWING AN ENTITY TO OPT OUT, WHAT IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE ON THE GREATER PROJECT? >> > > SO I WILL CERTAINLY CLAIM THAT A PERSON OF THE ESSENTIAL THINGS IS THAT THE STREET NETWORK IS KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS ENTIRE LOCATION AS WELL AS CONNECTION THROUGHOUT I-40. THAT NETWORK PUTS ON THE COMPACT AREA TIER, NOT TO THE ZONING DISTRICT, THEREFORE IT WOULD STILL APPLY IF THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THE WAS REMVED FROM THE ZONING.IT WOULD BE

A GREAT DEAL MORE DIFFICULT FOR United States AS THAT PROPERTY– IF THAT HOME REDEVELOPED. WE DON'' T HAVE THE VERY SAME STREET CRITERION, LIKE STREET LAYOUT REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE SO THERE WOULD BE PROBLEMS WITH CONTINUITY IN CREATING THAT MORE MULTIMODAL, HUMAN-FRIENDLY I STREET NETWORK THAT'' S SUCH AN VITAL ITEM OF THIS JOB. >> > > THANK YOU >>. > > COMMISSIONER MILLER. >> > > THANK YOU. I'' M GOING TO BEGIN WITH SEVERAL OF THE TECHNICAL THINGS. ON WEB PAGE 16, WHERE WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT 533I2E, DISCUSSING HOME WINDOWS AS WELL AS SAYS SPEAKER SYSTEMS CONNECTED WITH DRIVE WITH FACILITY SHALL BE DEVELOPED LOCATED SO AS TO NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT. I WEAR'' T THINK THAT'' S ENFORCEABLE REQUIREMENT. >> > > THAT ' S EXISTING LANGUAGE THAT >> ' S REPEATED. > > I RECOGNIZE THAT, I SIMPLY >> DON ' T THINK IT ' S ENFORCEABLE. > > WE CONTAINER WORK WITH'ALTERATIONS. > > TOUGHER EVEN IF IT REQUIRES TO SAY IN WHICH MAYBE LOCATED OR SOMETHING, I PUT ON ' T KNOW, BUT I THINK UH THAT THAT DOESN ' T QUITE MAKE IT >>, SAME CRITICISM WHEN >> WE DID IT THE VERY FIRST TIME. > > OKAY. > > I ' M LOOKING THROUGH

BELOW. NOW ON WEB PAGE 24 AT 161– C2B.WE ' RE TALKING ABOUT EXCEPTIONS FOR STRUCTURES OF 1 OR 2 HOME SYSTEMS. I TAKE A LOOK AT EXAMPLE eEXEMPTION IN An AND THAT'' S A SENTENCE. IN B IT ' S KNOT A SENTENCE >>. > > I DISCOVERED THAT EARLIER TODAY. JUST TO BE CLEAR THOSE EXEMPTIONS RELATE TO NEEDING A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE ON THE FIRST STAGE. >> > > THAT ' S NOT CLEAR FROM THE METHOD– >> >'> I ' LL MAKE >> SURE IT CONTAINER CLEAR. > > SHOULD BE A SEVENTH POINT. AND AFTER THAT MY BIGGEST ISSUE OUT OF THE METHOD EVERY LITTLE THING IS DRAFTED IS WE'' RE IN TRNSITIONAL USAGE AREA WHICH I IN FACT AS A RESULT OF YOUR DISCUSSION HAVE A MUCH GREATER GRATITUDE OF THAN I DID WHEN I WAS SIMPLY REVIEWING THIS IN TRYING TO FIX UP WHAT I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHETHER THIS WAS THE WAY TO GO. I GET IT NOW, BUT I STILL THINK WE'' VE GOT PROBLEMS AS WELL AS IT REQUIRES WORK. E WE HAVE FACTORS, NOT STANDARDS.STATEMENTS ESSENTIALLY NOT

EVEN SENTENCES. THEY DON ' T EXPRESS POLICY. SIMPLY PUT, CONSERVATION OF TREE PROTECTION AND TO WHAT DEGREE ARE WE IN FAVOR OF IT? AND ALSO THE TYPICAL IS ESSENTIALLY IS ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED; THAT ' S NOT A COMMON LAWFUL STANDARD AGAINST WHICH EFFICIENCY CANISTER BE GAUGED. WHEN YOU GO TO THE BOARD OF MODIFICATION, IT ' S OKAY TO HAVE LEEWAY BUT IT'' S NOT TO BE A STANDARD-GUIDED DECISION MAKING SO IF I MOST LIKELY TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND OBTAIN DENIED I CAN GO TO COURT AND SAY THE STANDARD IS THIS AND ALSO THEY CLEARLY DIDN ' T FOLLOW THE CRITERION. THIS'DOESN ' T HAVE A CRITERION, ESPECIALLY IN 5, OTHER EVALUATION FACTORS THIS AREN ' T ALSO NAMED ARE PROPERLY DEALT WITH. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO SAY EVEN MORE SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT OUT OF THESE REQUIREMENTS. WHAT ' S GREAT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FIND OR WHAT ' S BAD THAT WE INTEND TO PREVENT IN'HOW WE DEVELOP INSIDE THE TUA.THIS IS FIX FICTIONED.IS UNTIL -I WOULD LKE TO

HAVE THE ABILITY TO ELECT THIS, BUT IF WE ' RE SIMPLY GOING– IF WE ' RE GOING TO PRESS IT VIA TONIGHT THEN VI TO ELECT NO. IF WE'COULD HOLD-UP THIS SO IN WHICH WE CONTAINER TIGHTEN THESE STANDARDS UP AND MAKE THEM ESPECIALLY STANDARD TOP, REALLY ACCESS WHAT THE ADVOCATES FOR THE NEW HOPE CREEK HALLWAY ARE LOOKING TO SECURE TO SEND A CLEAR SIGNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD ANY WHAT THEY SHOULD BE PROEPGZ FOR An USAGE AUTHORIZATION, AND AFTERWARDS ALSO THE CHOICE MANUFACTURERS, MAJOR SPECIAL USAGE LICENSE TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL, I ' VE ALWAYS HAD WORRIES REGARDING CARRYING OUT QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEDURES AT COUNCIL– IS THAT STILL THE DISTINCTION IN BETWEEN MAJOR AND ALSO MINOR? > > THAT ' S THE DIFFERENCE. > > I LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE STRICTER >> STANDARDS TELL OVER PEOPLE THAT >> NEED TO SUBMIT THEM WHAT ' S GREAT WHAT AM I EXPECTED TO BE ACOMP LIRNING? IF THERE ARE EVEN MORE OF THEM OR WRITTEN LONGER, WELL, PERHAPS, THAT DOESN ' T FEAR ME, ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED ISN ' T ADEQUATE AS A LAWFUL STANDARD IN MY POINT OF VIEW. > > I COULD JUST– WE CAN CERTAINLY– I ' M NOT SAY WE CANISTER ' T CUSTOMIZE THE LANGUAGE, BUT THIS LANGUAGE WAS DRAWN THE MAJOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT AREA OF THE REGULATION THAT EXISTS UTILIZING A FEW OF THE LANGUAGE FROM THE TESTIMONIAL FACTORS AND ALSO BEEFING IT UP, SO I SIMPLY INTENDED TO PUT THAT OUT. > > AND IT ' S STILL A TROUBLE. > > I ' M NOT CLAIMING YOU ' RE MISDOING JUST ALLOWING YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE IT CAME FROM. >> > > UM, I HAVE GREAT DEALS OF PROBLEMS AS WELL AS I'' VE EXPRESSED THESE FOR A LONG TIME. REALLY INVOLVE NLD THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 9TH ROAD DESIGN AREA WHICH IS THE ONLY NON-DOWNTOWN LAYOUT DISTRICT THAT WE ' VE GOT. WE DID A GREAT DEAL OF MATTERS THAT WERE RIGHT AS WELL AS DID A GREAT DEAL OF MATTERS THAT IN MY VIEWPOINT I WISH WE HADN ' T DONE. THAT EXERCISED OKAY BUT IT GS -WASN ' T SINCE WE SHAPED IT OR INTENDED IT, AND BASED UPON THAT EXPERIENCE, I ASSUME WE DO DESIGN DISTRICT PLANNING INCORRECTLY.NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC OUTREACH, THAT ' S GOOD. I THINK UH THAT FOR EVERY DESIGN AREA, WE NEED TO DEVELOP A LAYOUT AREA STRATEGY

WHICH AFTER THAT OBTAINS PUT RIGHT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY, AS WELL AS IN IT WE MUST SET OUT THE GOALS OF THE STYLE AREA. IN IT, WE NEEDS TO DRAW THE MAP AND SAY THE INITIAL REZONING FOR THE LAYOUT DISTRICT ZONES MUST TEAM LIKE THIS AND AFTERWARDS SAY, BUT THEN AS THE E DESIGN AREA CREATES OVERTIME, IDENTIFY POSSIBLE EXPANSION AREA FOR CORE, FEASIBLE EXPANSION AREA FOR SUPPORT ONE, RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT AREA FOR THE STYLE AREA AND SAY DRAW POPULATED LINES OUTSIDE AND AFTER THAT SAY BUT ALSO FOR THESE EXPANSIONS TO OCCUR, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE WOULD WISH TO SEE HAPPEN HERE WHICH WAY BEGIN WITH A SMALL CORE.THE DEVELOPMENT AREA COULD CHECK OUT THE THOROUGH PLAN AND SAY, WELL, I DESIRED I ONLY SUPPORT ONE HOME BESIDE THE CORE, I WANTED IT WERE 4 THEREFORE

SEARCH IN AND ALSO SAY THIS CANISTER BE CORE IF JOB BRINGS IN RATHER OF An ADVANCEMENT PLAN DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU CONTAINER HAVE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY WITH LAYOUT AREA ZONES AS WELL AS WE CN AFTER THAT FORM OUR DESIGN DISTRICTS EXPANDING. WE THROE IT ON THE GROUND NOW AND ALSO WE HOPE THAT IT ALL TURNS OUT. ALLOW ' S NOT DO THAT. I PUT ON ' T SEE ANY REASON WE NEED TO. WE HAVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE CANISTER USAGE THE EXTENSIVE STRATEGY TO SAY THESE ARE OUR ASSUMPTIONS FOR LAYOUT DISTRICTS. BEGINNING SMALL, PROVIDE AWAY THE CORE,'DISTRIBUTE ASSISTANCE ONE, BUT THEN SAY TO INCREASE IT, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED AND AFTERWARDS WE CANISTER FORM OUT OF THOSE PROJECT-BY-PROJECT. THAT ' S THE METHOD WE NEED TO BE DOING THIS, AND ALSO I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT. DESIRE WE ACTUALLY DID IT A LITTLE BIT WITH NINTH ROAD BECAUSE WE TOOK ON STRATEGY AND AFTERWARDS WE ADOPTED TEXT STATUTE AS WELL AS THEN WE APPLIED THE MESSAGE AND WE DID THAT IN PHASES OVER MONTHS.I WANT TO DO THAT AS WE RELOCATION AHEAD DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE LOTS OF THESE TO ACCOMPLISH AS WELL AS THEY ' RE HARD TO PERFORM IT. APPRECIATE IT.ING THE FUNCTION AND ALSO -I WISH TO TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY SINCE I PARTICIPATED IN– IT ' S BEEN YEARS AGO CURRENTLY BUT IT DOESN ' T SEEM THAT FAR BACK BUT WHAT WAS SAID WAS TRUE– ATTENDED JCCPC MEETING AND WE HAD INTERNS ONE YEAR AND ALSO CLAIMED GO OUT AS WELL AS FIND PLACES IN WHICH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THICKNESS BONUS OFFERS ARE FUNCTIONING AS WELL AS LOCATE OUT WHY THEIRS FUNCTION AND OURS WEAR ' T. THEY CME BACK AND SAY TWO THINGS. ONE, YOU OBTAINED TO HAVE A 3 TO ONE BUDGET-FRIENDLY RATIO FOR THE PERKS AND ANOTHER PERSON POINT IS THAT YOU TIN ' T ALREADY HAVE ADVANCEMENT PURVIEW THAT MAKE THAT DISINCENTIVIZE. WE ' RE FINALLY E DOING THAT HERE BY DROPPING THAT ELEVATION IN ASSISTANCE ONE DOWN TO 45; THAT ' S BOLD, AND ALSO I THINK IT ' S WONDERFUL. WHAT IS THE HEIGHT LIMIT IN SUPPORT 1 IN NINTH ROAD? > > DON ' T KNOW OFFHAND. > > THIS IS– IT ' S A LOT GREATER THAN 45 A FEET SINCE THAT ' S LIMIT IN SUPPORT TWO.WE ' RE BUILDING– WE KNOW THE REAL CONSTRAINT IN THE METHOD WE CONSTRUCT RESIDENTIAL DENSE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS ISN ' T THE ZONING CODE >>, IT'' S STRUCTURE CODE; JUST HOW MUCH TIMBER FRAME YOU'CAN PUT ON TWO FLOORINGS OF CONCRETE PLATFORM. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT STATES CUTS UNDER THAT AS WELL AS IT NO LONGER IS WHAT MANAGES WHAT DEVELOPERS DEVELOP. WE NOW'HAVE ZONING AGAIN AND THIS IS An ADVANTAGE. ONE ISSUE ABOUT THIS DESIGN AREA AND THE MEANS WE ' VE DOE ALL OF THEM IS INDIVIDUALS SLIP IN AND ALSO DO REZONINGS UNDERNEATH THEM JUST AS WE ' RE PULLING THE PREPARES TOGETHER, SO TO START WITH, WE GOT A GREAT DEAL OF RELATIVELY NEW COMMERCIAL, OLD TIME MY COMMERCIAL STREET SHOPPING MALL THAT THS DISTRICT IS SWAMPED WITH THEM AND THEY ' RE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. THEY HAVE LOTS OF USEFUL LIFE THERE AS WELL AS P PEOPLE WHO ARE SAY WE ' RE GOING DO EVEN MORE AND WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT WISH TO REMAIN TO ESTABLISH THE OLD MEANS.

I ' D LIKE TO ECHO COMMISSIONER BRINE ' S THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND FOR THE REMARKS. > > I COULD JUST– WE CAN CERTAINLY– I ' M NOT SAY WE CANISTER ' T CHANGE THE LANGUAGE, BUT THIS LANGUAGE WAS DRAWN THE MAJOR SPECIAL USAGE LICENSE AREA OF THE ORDINANCE THAT EXISTS UTILIZING SOME OF THE LANGUAGE FROM THE TESTIMONIAL FACTORS AS WELL AS BEEFING IT UP, SO I SIMPLY DESIRED TO PUT THAT OUT. VALUE IT.ING THE WORK AND -I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY SINCE I WENT TO– IT ' S BEEN YEARS BACK CURRENTLY BUT IT DOESN ' T SEEM THAT LONG AGO BUT WHAT WAS STATED WAS TRUE– PARTICIPATED IN JCCPC CONFERENCE AS WELL AS WE HAD INTERNS ONE YEAR AS WELL AS SAID GO OUT AND FIND PLACES IN WHICH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DENSITY BONUSES ARE WORKING AS WELL AS DISCOVER OUT WHY THEIRS WORK AND ALSO OURS PUT ON ' T. WE ' RE FINALLY E DOING THAT BELOW BY DROPPING THAT HEIGHT IN SUPPORT ONE DOWN TO 45; THAT ' S BOLD, AS WELL AS I BELIEVE IT ' S TERRIFIC. ONE WORRY ABOUT THIS DESIGN AREA AND ALSO THE MEANS WE ' VE DOE ALL OF THEM IS PEOPLE SLIP IN AND ALSO DO REZONINGS BELOW THEM JUST AS WE ' RE PULLING THE PREPARES TOGETHER, SO FIRST OF ALL, WE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF RELATIVELY NEW COMMERCIAL, OLD TIME MY COMMERCIAL ROAD PURCHASING FACILITY THAT THS AREA IS SWAMPED WITH THEM AND ALSO THEY ' RE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.I STRESS IT'' LL BE AS LONG BEFORE WE SEE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL IN THIS SPECIFIC LAYOUT DISTRICT THAT A WHOLE LOT OF PLANS AN PLANS WE'' RE MAKING TODAY AND ALSO TOSSING ON THE GROUND ARE NOT GOING TO BE RELEVANT AT THE TIME REDEVELOPMENT BEGINS TO HAPPEN THAT'' S WHY I DESIRED THIS PREPARATION IDEA BETTER BECAUSE WE E CONTAINER REMAIN TO MOLD AND FORM ADVERTISEMENT WHAT HAVE YOU, WE DON'' T HAVE TO GO BACK AND ALSO REGAIN WHAT WE'' VE ALREADY GIVEN AWAY.IT ' S EASY TO KICK BACK THE CODE, IT'' S DIFFICULT TO MAKE IT STRICTER ONCE MORE. I WISH WE WERE DOING IT IN THIS WAY'. I ' D SURE LIKE THE DARINGS OF ADDING THAT IN THAT OTHER COMPONENT THAT YOUR COST EFFECTIVE REAL ESTATE BONUS OFFER IN THAT YOU DRIVE THE RATIO UP. IS IT NOT 3 UNITS? >> > > BY REMOVING THE THICKNESS CONSTRAINT, YUR NOT AFTER THAT STILL RESTRICTED BY A NUMBER OF UNITS THAT'' S AFTER THAT GOING TO DRIVE THE DIMENSION OF UNITS BUT YOU'' RE REMOVING– >> > > RIGHT, RIGHT'. >> SO IT ' S SIMPLY HEIGHT. > > YES. WHATEVER YOU TIN CONSTRUCT WITHIN BUILDING CODE ALLOWED WITH THAT SAID OVERALL ELEVATION IS WHAT YOU ' RE DENSE DI BE. >> > > YOU CANISTER INCREASE IN ELEVATION BUT YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE CERTAIN VARIETY OF UNITS.

>> > > YES >>. >'> WE ' VE REMOVED AROUND INCENTIVES. WE NO LONGER HAVE WHEN WE DID THE NINTH STREET DISTRICT THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF DENSITY INCENTIVES. ONE FOR PUBLIC PARK WHAT I CALL THE CONCRETE FIELDS– FORTUNATELY DID AWAY WITH THAT. I THINK THIS IS GOOD. I BELIEVE THE CORE IS STILL TOO BIG BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU OFFER SOMEONE CORE, YOU'' VE GIVEN IT AWAY. ZONING ISOVER FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR LIFE DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT'' S OUR A LOT OF PERMISSIVE ZONE IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'' VE SPENT RESEARCH STUDY TRIANGLE PARK. SO MUCH ABOUT THIS THAT I UH REALLY LIKE AND I'' D LOVE TO REPAIR IT AND ALSO CHOOSE IT. ALLOW ME ASK An INQUIRY: IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU PROPERLY UH IN FEEDBACK TO THE QUESTIONS THAT A FEW OTHER PEOPLE WERE ASKING, THE CITY'' S LEGAL PEOPLE HAD TROUBLE WITH THE SUGGESTION OF A PROBLEM FROM THE EDGE SOME DEFINED SIDE OR SENSIBLY SPECIFIED EDGE INSIDE THE NEW HOPE CREEK CORRIDOR.THAT ' S A PROBLEM, BUT TRANSITIONAL USE IF IT WAS DISTANCE WAS 300 FEET INSTEAD OF 200 FEET EXISTS A LEGAL PROBLEM WITH THAT? >> > > NO, NOT TO MY EXPERTISE. >> > > IF WE DID THAT BASED UPON– '' CUZ I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU UH PUT STAKE HOLERS TOGETHER, SORT OF A COMPACT IS DEVELOPED AN WHEN YOU MESSING WITH THE AGREEMENT E – PEOPLE CAME TO CONSENSUS. WOULD THERE BE AN IDENTIFIABLE STAKEHOLDER TEAM THAT WAS HOW? >> > > THE FACTOR YOU HEARD WHAT YOU LEARNT THROUGH INDIVIDUALS THAT PERTAINED TO SPEAK TONIGHT IS BECAUSE THERE'' S NOT 100 % CONTRACT. THERE'' S THAT RANGE, THERE'' S STILL SOME DISAGREEMENT BY THE VARIOUS EVENTS.

>> > > IS IT PSSIBLE TO HAVE IT BE 300 FEET WITH A PINCH POINT THAT'' S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS WELL AS PERHAPS 200 FEET FURTHER AWAY WHERE THE HALLWAY IS MUCH WIDER? >> > > POTENTIALLY >>. > > THAT ' S MAPPING EXERCISE, POSSIBLE. OKAY. AND AFTERWARDS LASTLY, I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF SEFRP THINK FOR THE BRAND-NEW HOPE COMMONS PROGRAMMER. IT'' S NOT A KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT I LIKE VERY MUCH BUT I BELIEVED THE DEBATE THAT RIGHT NOW THERE'' S ONE VEHICULAR CROSSING THERE, THERE IS NO PEDESTRIAN GOING ACROSS THAT I WOULD WISH TO DO.I HAVE MY SIGN OUT AS WELL AS COLLECTING COINS, DON'' T CROSS THAT ROAD, IT ' S SCARY. AND ALSO IF YOU MAKE IT A DIVIDED, A LIMITED ACCESSIBILITY HIGHWAY AND SEPARATE THE GRADE THEN WHICH IS CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE IT ALSO GETS SCARIER BECAUSE I DO OCCASIONALLY STROLL HILLANDALE FULLTON WHICH HAS ALL SORT OF RAMPS INTEGRATING AND ALSO THERE ARE AUTOMOBILES COMING FROM WHOLE LOTS OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AS WELL AS THEY ARE AIMING TO EXPLOIT VEHICULAR OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS A THEY'' RE NOT THINKING ABOUT ME AS A PEDESTRIAN AS WELL AS IT'' S SCARY. I HAVE ALAYS HAD MISGIVINGS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT EVERY LITTLE THING ON OTHER SIDE OF 15-501 FROM PATTERSON AREA NEED TO BE INVOLVED HERE.RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ONE HOME PROPRIETOR WHO ' S ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THIS DISTRICT THAT WANT TO BE OPTED OUT. I DO NOT SEE WHY LETTING THEM OUT OF IT AFFECTS THE HONESTY OF WHAT WE PROPOSE FOR THE DISTRICT AND ALSO WHAT WE PROPOSE FOR THE LARGER LOCATION IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE. I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY CONSIDER THAT UNLESS THERE ARE STAKEHOLDERS THAT FEELING LIKE SOMEHOW LETTING THAT NEW HOPE COMMONS PURCHASING FACILITY OUT OF THERE IS GOING TO MESS UP THE PLAN OF REDEMPTION. AS WELL AS I ' M NOT SUGGESTING THIS DUE TO THE FACT THAT I'DON ' T BELIEVE WE NEED TO REZONE SOMETHING WHEN A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER DOESN ' T LIKE ITTEN BUT I AM THOUGHTFUL– WHEN THEY COMPLAIN WE HVE TO PROVIDE THE REASONS FOR ADDITION STRICTER SAFETY AND ALSO A I AM SWAYED BY NOT ALL THE ARGUE AMENT THAT MS. TRAYHO LIFTED IN HER LETTER BUT CERTAINLY THE FIRST COUPLE, AND SO I WANT TO HOLD-UP THIS SO THAT WE CONTAINER HAVE BETTER STANDARDS AND PERHAPS CAN CONSIDER THE WIDTH OF THE TRANSITIONAL USE LOCATION IN A WAY THAT RESPONDS EVEN MORE PROPERLY, AN THEN ALSO SPEAK ABOUT THIS SITUATION WITH MS.TRAYHO ' S CUSTOMER. I WOULD UH LOVE TO HAVE 60 DAYS TO CHECK OUT THOSE POINTS AND ALSO SEE IF WE CONTAINER HAVE BETTER REQUIREMENTS, BETTER TRANSITIONAL USAGE AREA, AND ALSO A MORE EFFECTIVE ULTIMATE LIMIT FOR THE STAKEHOLDER BUILDING PROPRIETORS ENTAILED. AT THE PROPER TIME I WOULD LIKE AN CHANCE TO MAKE THAT ACTIVITY. > > WE WILL CERTAINLY RETURN. I WOULD LIKE TO SIMPLY HRE CURRENTLY BEFORE >> WE CONTINUE WITH ADDED INQUIRIES AND COMMENTS FROM TEAM ON THAT NOTION OF A 60-DAY OR 30-DAY CONTINUANCE. I ' M ASING CURRENTLY SINCE SOMETIMES MOVEMENTS GET PUT ON THE TABLE AND ALSO'SECS TAKE PLACE AS WELL AS THINGS RELOCATE QUICKLY.WHAT ' S STAFF ' S TAKE OR DETAILS PROBLEMS WE REQUIREMENT TO UNDERSTAND. >

> RESOURCES ARE MINIMAL WITH WHAT WE CONTAINER SERVICE AND SO IF WE DELAY 60 DAYS WE ' >> RE HOLD-UP UHHING EVERY OTHER TASK WORKING WITH 60 DAYS AS WELL AS WE ' VE BEEN AT'THIS FOR THREE YEARS. > > MANY THANKS. > > ADDITIONAL CONCERNS AND ALSO REMARKS? I ' M GOING THE BEGINNING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVEN ' T HAD A POSSIBILITY TO TALK YET AND ALSO AFTER THAT CIRCLE BACK. COMMISSIONER KENCHEN. > > THIS IS ACTUALLY OUTSTANDING FUNCTION. I UH KNOW HOW HARD YOU GUYS WORKED. >> TERRIFIC TASK. I WORRY UH, THOUGH, THAT WE ' RE LETTING THE BEST BE THE OPPONENT OF THE EXCELLENT. I WOULD CAUTION TH PAYMENT NOT TO PERFORM THAT THIS TIME AROUND. I ' M SURPRISED BY SOMETHING COMMISSIONER TURK STATED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND YOU UNDERSTAND BASED'ON WHAT WHOED A A VOE KATES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING I WOULD BE DISTRESS TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING.I KNOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALSO TRANSPORTATION STROVE AND ALSO I APPRECIATE THEIR VIEWPOINTS. RESTRICTIONS THEY ' VE GOT SETTING

ABOUT AGAIN I DON ' T KNOW THAT WE KNOW– WE DON ' T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL EXACTLY WHAT ' S GOING TO HAPPEN BUT I ' M INTERESTED AS TO WHETHER THERE ' S ANY INDICATOR FROM YOU'ALL ON WHETHER WE ' RE ON THE RIGHT PATH TO HAVE WHAT WE– ANY INDIVIDUAL, I ' M NOT EXACTLY SURE, SIMPLY CHATTING ON DR. SAVA. > > I VALUE YOUR STRAIGHT QUESTION TO MR. SAVA. IF YOU ' RE WILLING TO OFFER YOUR >> IDEAS TO THE INQUIRY– > > [ LOW AUDIO] > > O.K.. THOSE ENJOYING IN YOUR HOME THERE ' S BEEN >> NO SEMINAR YET FROM AFORDABLE HOUSING VIEWPOINT. > > OK. THAT ' S IT, I RECONSIDER I LIKE THICKNESS INCENTIVES AND I BELIEVE IT COULD WORK. THINK IT ' S A TRULY GOOD SHOT. WE DON ' T KNOW LIKE COMMISSIONER MILLER SAID IT ' S A GREAT SHOT. I ' LL BE VOTING IN SUPPORT OF THIS.I KNOW IT ' S NOT EXCELLENT, I PUT ON ' T KNOW IF'IT ' LL EVER BE PERFECT. YOU CLAIMED YOU WORKED ON IT 3 YEARS, BUT I BELIEVE UH IT ' S VERY GREAT AND ALSO BALLOT IN'SUPPORT OF IT. > > MANY THANKS. COMMISSIONER HORNBUCKLE. > > YES, MA ' AM, I DO APPRECIATE> ALL THE FUNCTION THAT ' S GONE INTO IT. I ' M STILL SORT OF UNDECIDED AS TO WITH THE BRAND-NEW HOPE COMMONS SITE.MAYBE YOU CAN CLARIFY IT OR

CLEAR ME UP SOME, BUT SIMPLY SUPPOSE SOMETHING IF WE DID APPROVE THIS AND ALSO BRAND-NEW HOPE COMMONS WAS INCLUDED IN THIS AS WELL AS SOMETHING OCCURRED THUS AS HAPPENED IN RALEIGH 35 YEARS EARLIER WHEN A TORNADO OR FIRE SOMETHING AND A LOT OF BUSINESSES ARE TRULY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED OVER THERE, PUT THEM AT GROUND ZERO OF HAVING TO BEGINNING AS WELL AS RETURN TO CONFORM? I ' M OVERWHELMED ON THAT MATTER. > > SURE. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS CONCERNING THIS PROPERTY AND ALSO HER CLIENTS ' CONCERNS. AMONG THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE HAVE MADE SURE IS THE SITUATION AS WE PUT LAYOUT AREA ZONING IN POSITION, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT ' S GOING PRODUCE NON-CONFORMITIES OR IN SOME INSTANCES CONTINUE NON-CONFORMITIES AND MAKE EVEN MORE ASPECTS OF THE PROPERTY NON-CONFORMING, WHICH ' S WHY WE SEE TO IT THAT WE HAVE CAN ADDRESS A FEW OF THOSE THAT-SITUATIONS.SO WITH THIS SPECIFIC WEBSITE T BRAND-NEW HOPE COMMONS SITE MASSING WOULD CREATE NONCONFORMING USAGE. MAKES USE OF ARE THERE UNDER STIPULATIONS OF WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED. CURRENT ZONING OF THAT SITE IS INDUSTRIAL CENTER WHERE THE– I FORGET THE EXACT WORD– BUT PRIMARY USE NEEDS TO BE COMMERCIAL. ZONING PERMITS GREATER VERSATILITY IN WHAT USES YOU HAVE WITHIN THAT EXISTING FRAMEWORK WITHOUT NEEDING TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS. IF YOU DO WISH TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE FRAMEWORK, AFTER THAT THE LIT US IN TEST IS ARE YOU BECOMING EVEN MORE SATISFYING THOSE NEW REQUIREMENTS THAN YOU WERE BEFORE? YOU JUST NEED TO SHOW THAT YOU ' RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. YOU WEAR ' T NEED TO CONSTRUCT UNDER THESE RULES, YOU TO SHOW YOU ' RE COMING INTO GREATER CONFORMANCE. IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF DEVASTATION OF FRAMEWORK HAPPENS WITHIN W A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE, YOU'ARE PERMITTED TO RECNSTRUCT WITHOUT A MINOR UNIQUE USE AUTHORIZATION PROCEDURE SIMPLY A BY-RIGHT PROCEDURE TO THE PREVIOUS FINGER PRINT. > > O.K.. FEELING BETTER ABOUT THAT. AS MR. MILLER STATED AMONG MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS I WOULD FEELING FAR MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 300 FOOT BARRIER IN THE CREEK AREA AND ALSO IF THE BOUNDARIES COULD B HOLD UP BUT THE AREA CLOSEST TO THE CREEK LOCATION, I REALLY FEELING THAT SHOULD BE 300 FOOT BARRIER. I ' D FEELING A LOT MORE COMFY WITH THAT SAID. > > THANKS. WE WILL CIRCLE AROUND BAK FOR EXTRA REMARKS. WE ' LL BEGIN AT THE END, COMMISSIONER MORGAN. > > I HAVE A PAIR COMMENTS'. SIMPLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS, I ASSUME THERE ' S JUST SPECIFIC LOCATIONS THAT I THINK TRULY– I VALUE WHAT TEAM'HAS USED UP PUTTING THIS TOGETHER– I THINK WE DO >> DEMAND TO TIGHTEN THIS UP MORE IN THOSE AREAS OF CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDING LOOKING FR WAYS TO BRIDGE TO SAY THE NEW HOPE COMMONS, HAVING THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING IN CONSIDERING HOW WE DO IT.I THINK I UH LIKE THE NORTH HILLS AREA IN RALEIGH WHERE THY HAVE WAYS TO MAKE CLEAR THAT HECTIC ROAD. I THINK THERE ARE POINTS THAT COULD BE DONE BETTER THERE THAT WE

COULD INTEGRATE RIGHT INTO THE STRATEGY. > > THOSE BECOME PART OF THAT 15-501 HALLWAY STUDY THAT ' S ON GOING RIGHT NOW IS IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT. > > I BELIEVE THERE ' S MEANS TO DO THAT AND INCREASING THE CORE IS >> ONE AREA TO AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO PROMOTE EVEN MORE, I THINK WHAT'I ' M THINKING WE TALKED ABOUT MIXED USAGE, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE EVEN MORE INDIVIDUALS CLOSE TO THE TERMINAL ALONG WITH HAVE COMMERCIAL USAGE AS WELL.I DO THINK THERE ' S WAYS TO TRY TO BOOST IT. I RECOGNIZE THE CONCERNS AND REMARKS MADE REGARDING IT MAY BE MORE RESTRICTIVE IN ACQUIRING FINANCING AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT,

BUT ANYWAY, MY IMPRESSION TODAY IS IT DOES DEMAND EVEN MORE TIGHTENING, EVEN MORE TWEAKING TO THIS BEFORE W STEP AHEAD WITH THIS. > > THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. > > THANK YOU. I ' LL SHOT TO GO THROUGH THESE THINGS RELATIVELY RAPIDLY. PAGE 16, NUMBER 2D AT THE TOP. DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITIES SHALL ONLY BE PERMITTED FOR RELY ON PHARMACY USES. ANYTHING WRONG KEEPING THAT? >> > WE ACTUALLY DON ' T ALLOW DRIVE VIA FACILITIES IN ANY OTHER LAYOUT AREAS AS WELL AS THIS PROVISION WAS A FEEDBACK TO SPECIFIC RESPONSES FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS PROCESS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR UTILIZES. > > ARE YOU GOING RESTRICT THE >> NUMBER OF LANES? >'> THAT WAS– I GOT YOUR E E-MAIL AND I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT. WE HAVE NOT INCORPORATED CHANGES BASED ON REMARKS FROM THAT BUT THAT ' S SOMETHING WE CONTAINER LOOK

>> AT INCORPORATED INTO THAT SECTION. > > AS I EXPLAINED>, A GREAT DEAL OF FINANCIAL INSTITUTION AND ALSO DRIVE THROUGHS YOU MIGHT HAVE 3 LANES THAT CONTAINER GET SOLUTION AND ALSO FOURTH LANE FOR AN ATM MACHINE. HOW MANY LANES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ON'PAGE 17, JUST IN FRONT OF OUTDOOR LEISURE, THIS >> AREA ONLY WITHIN THE SRPC AREA THE FOLLOWING SHALL APPLY. > > THAT ' S JUST DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE RENUMBERING– > > OKAY. ON WEB PAGE 18, PRODUCT 4 AS YOU ' RE UPCOMING DOWN THE PAGE AND THEN FURTHER DOWN THING NUMBER 5, PHRASE STARTS IN THE RR AREA– IS THAT CORRECT? > > THAT IS AN >> EXISTING PROVISION THAT REMAINS IN PLACE >>, YES. > > OK. > > I UH DIDN ' T COMPOSE THAT. > > TAT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING. > > YOU CAN BLAME MIKE, MAYBE? > > THAT WAS LITTLE CONFUSING. UH, AS WELL AS PAGE 28>, PRODUCT NUMBER C3, YOU STATE OPEN ROOM AMENITIES, ARE YOU SURE YOU PUT ON> ' >> T MEAN P PUBLIC AREA FACILITIES? > > THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT. > >> OTHER TWO REMARKS I WOULD MAKE >>, I LIKEWISE THINK THAT WE REQUIREMENT A LITTLE LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO DIGEST THIS AND ALSO MAYBE POLISH IT. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MILLER ' S REMARKS REGARDING HAVING MORE BETTER ENFORCEABLE CRITERIA, FOR >> EXAMPLE.I THNK WE DEMAND TO SPELL EVEN MORE POINTS OUT. I ' M ADDITIONALLY– I DON ' T KNOW THAT WE CONTAINER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNLESS WE HAVE MORE REQUIREMENTS PUT IN AREA AT SOME FUTURE TIME BUT I AM ALSO CONCERNED CONCERNING THE INEXPENSIVE HOUSING CIRCUMSTANCE. I CONCUR THAT WE MAY BE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT WHAT WE REALLY WANTED TO PERFORM WITH THE MEANS IT STANDS CURRENTLY. ALL I HAVE. > > COMMISSIONER DURKIN. > > ONE INQUIRY CONNECTED TO NEW HOPE COMMONS ADVANCEMENT. THERE WAS REFERENCE THAT THERE WERE CLOTHES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MADE BASED ON THE CHANGE, BUT I SIMPLY WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THEY BUT WOULD NEED TO D TO CURRENT FRAMEWORK? > > YEAH, UNTIL SOMEONE WISHES TO> MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND AFTER THAT ALTERING THE UTILIZES INIDE THE FRAMEWORK SO LONG AS MAKES USE OF ARE PERMITTED WHICH THIS WOULD ALLOW EVEN MORE UTILIZES THAT COULD OCCUR BUT IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE CHANGES THAT THEY PROPOSE TO THE BUILDING AS WELL AS WEBSITE, THAT ' S WHEN REQUIREMENTS BEGINNING TO KICK IN. > > MANY THANKS. > > COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. > > LISA YOU MENTIONED STAKEHOLDERS AND I KNOW YOU ' VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SOME TIME, HAVE ANY AFFORDABLED A A VOE KATES BEEN PART OF THIS PROCESS? I VALUE COMMISSIONER KENCHEN ASKING FOR INPUT. HAVE YOU GOTTEN INPUT BOTH EITHER POSITIVE'OR NEGATIVE ON THIS? > > YES.

>> WE HAVE HAD– AND ALSO I WEAR ' T KNOW >> ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE COALITION OF AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE AND TRANSIT BUT AT LEAST ONE OF THEIR MEMBERS HAVE REVEALED UP AN BEEN INVOLVED IN PUBLIC MEETINGS AND REVEALED ASSISTANCE FOR THIS IN ADDITION TO OTHER FOLKS AND THEIR RESPONSES TO THE PROPOSITION AT THOSE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AS WELL AS BEYOND THOSE RESPONDING FAVORABLY TO THE CONCEPT. > > BUT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SINCE WE ' VE GOTTEN LIKE THE COMPLETE DRAFT? > > THAT INCLUDES THE FULL DRAFT. THE LAST PUBLIC MEETING WE HAD WAS IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR BEFORE WE STARTED PREPARING THE PRODUCTS FOR THE ADOPTION PROCESS WHICH NOT JUST– IT WASN ' T SIMPLY CONCEPTS IT WAS THE FULL DRAFT MESSAGE THEN WHICH HADN ' T ALTERED FROM THE CONCEPT THAT WAS SUPPLIED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING THAT WE HAD HEARD ASSISTANCE FOR AND ONCE AGAIN'HAD ASSISTANCE FOR. > > MANY THANKS. > > EXTRA REMARKS OR INQUIRIES FROM COMMISSIONERS? I DO WISH TO REITERATE PRIOR TO WE HAVE An ACTIVITY, EVEN IF WE ' RE VOTING TONIGHT FOR OR VERSUS OR TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME TO TIGHTEN THIS UP,'REALLY APPRECIATE THE EXCELLENT FUNCTION OF THE PERSONNEL. THIS IS EXTREMELY ALCOHOL,'AND ALSO I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTY OF P PUTTING IT OFF AN SOME ADDITIONAL DEDICATIONS THAT MIGHT ENTAIL, BUT WHAT I ALSO ASSUMES IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GET IT DONE QUICK BUT >> TO GET IT DONE RIGHT SO I ' VE HEARD SOME EXCELLENT REMARKS THAT I BELIEVE WE WISH TO TAKE UNDER FACTOR TO CONSIDER TONIGHT AS WELL.COMMISSIONER GIBBS. > > SIMPLY A FEW REMARKS. EVERY QUESTION AND STATEMENT THAT ' S COME FROM THIS COMPENSATION TONIGHT INDICATES AND IT ' S MY REALLY FEELING TOO, WE NEED EVEN MORE TIME TO RESEARCH, AND I THINK STAFF PERHAPS COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER INPUT FROM United States UH, FROM OTHER BODIES, OTHER INDIVIDUAL. WHEN THIS THING BEGAN OUT, I WAS AT A CONFERENCE LAST NIGHT AS WELL AS I UH MENTIONED I MADE A COMMENT THAT THIS– AND IT HAD TO DO WITH THE LIGHT RAIL. THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION STARTED AS A HAS ACTUALLY ADVANCED TO A GROWTH T – JOB. NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAYS, THAT'' S WHAT IT IS AS WELL AS IT IS PROBABLY CAN BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AT BOTH.BUT JUST A COMMENT, FOR CIRCUMSTANCES, REGARDING THE INEXPENSIVE HOUSING. WE HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH TRYING TO COLLECTION AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGY OR NEED OR WHATEVER IT CONTAINER BE ASKED FOR YEARS JUST IN THE CITY. THE VERY SAME PROCESS IS GOING TO OCCUR ALONG THESE RAIL QUITS AND IN PATTERSON PLACE AS WELL AS IN OTHER AREAS, SO WE CONTAINER ' T EXPECT EVEN IF THIS IS ON A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION LINE OR HAS ACCESSIBILITY TO IT, IT ' S NOT GOING TO SETTLE THE ISSUE. WE ' RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE VERY SAME ISSUES TO SHOT TO

DEAL WITH, TO COME UP UH WITH SOLUTIONS FOR. THAT ' S JUST MY DISAPPOINTMENTS AND I ASSUME WE ' VE ALL SAID ENOUGH TONIGHT AND IT ' S– AND ALSO I DO APPRECIATE WHAT STAFF HAS DONE.LISA, SURE APPRECIATE THIS THAT YOU ' VE GIVEN US ENOUGH AND THANK YOU TO EVERY ONE OF THE TEAM. THANKS. > >'MANY THANKS. COMMISSIONER GIBBS. > > APPROPRIATE TIME? > > I PUT ON ' T SEE ANY ADDED REMARKS. I DO SEE TEAM. > > WANT TO REITERATE OTER TASKS WILL CERTAINLY BE DELAYED I SUGGEST THE NEW DETAILED STRATEGY WILL BE POSTPONED 2 MOFRNTS– THAT ' S OUR COMPROMISE.'> > THAT ' S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. WHAT'I DO LISTEN TO THOUGH FROM THE INTENDING COMPENSATION IS A BASIC VIEW CLAIMING WE ' RE NOT EXPRESSION TO BEGIN OVER, WE ' RE HONING KNOW 2 OR 3 SPECIFIC LOCATIONS THAT OUR TEAM BELIEVE WOULD BE ESSENTIAL AND I SAY >> THAT BECAUSE I PUT ON'' T WANT THE SHAME HANGING OVER United States FOR 2 >> MONTHS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BEING RESERVE IF WHAT WE ' RE SAY UHHING IS WE WANT TO ENSURE WE HAVE A LITTLE ADDITIONAL TIME TO >> UNDERSTAND THE INEXPENSIVE REAL ESTATE EFFECTS DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE ' VE DONE A GREAT DEAL OF WORK THERE. WE INTEND TO CONSIDER THE PINCH POINT OF'TWO HUNDRED OR 3 HUNDRED FEET SETBACKS, AS WELL AS WE INTEND TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AROUND THE UH NEW HOPE COMMONS QUESTION.SO IS THAT ACCURATE THAT IF WE ' RE EXPRESSION THESE THE 3 MATTERS WE ' D LIKE ADDITIONAL TME AND ALSO ENERGY ON THAT PARTICULAR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SITS IN THE PARKING GREAT DEAL FOR 2 MONTHS? > > IT ' S A GREAT DEAL OF WORK WITH MY PRIMARY RESOURCES FOR THE EXTENSIVE STRATEGY. THAT ' S SOMETHING YOU COULD PUT IN YOUR COMMENT TO EXPLAIN YOUR VOTE. THAT THINGS WILL GET DEALT WITH BEFORE COMMON COUNCIL AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WHEN WE DO OUR FUNCTION SESSION PRESENTATION IN MARCH, if WE HAVE THOSE COME IN TONIGHT WE CONTAINER PROVIDE THAT TO THEM. SIMPLY BE ADVISED THAT, YEAH', IF IT ' S NOT SIMPLY 2 MONTHS IT LIKEWISE INDICATES THAT TWO MONTHS FROM NOW WOULD PUT IT AT JUNE ' S COUNCIL CONFERENCE WHICH IS A BUDGET HEARING SO BEING IT'WOULD NEED TO GO TO AUGST, SO SIMPLY PRACTICALLY FOUR-MONTH DELAY.JUST KEEP THAT'IN MIND BEFORE YOU VOTE. > > MANY THANKS. COMMISSIONER BRINE. SCOTT IS PHRASE, BUT MY ONLY -COUNTER ARGUE AMENT IS THAT I BELIEVE– ARGUMENT IS THAT I THINK WE REQUIREMENT TO TAKE THE TIME TO GET THIS. > > COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > SO MR. CHAIRMAN, I RELOCATE'THAT WE CONTINUE CASE TC1800009 TILL THE PAYMENT ' S REGULARLY-SCHEDULED CONFERENCE IN'APRIL, AND DURING THAT TIME IT IS OUR HOPE THAT WE CANISTER OBTAIN THE STAFF TO CHECK OUT AND ALSO MODIFY POTENTIALLY THE COMPLYING WITH PRODUCTS: ONE, WOULD

BE THE LISTING OF THE TRANSITIONAL USE LOCATION FROM 200 TO 300 FEET. THE SECONDLY WOULD BE TIGHTER AND ALSO EVEN MORE ENFORCEABLE STANDARDS WITH REGARD T THE ISSUANCE OF USAGE ALLOWS INSIDE THE TRANSITIONAL USAGE AREA. THE 3RD PRODUCT WOULD BE THE ADVISABILITY OF EXCLUDEING FROM THE >> PROPOSED LAYOUT DISTRICT THE BUILDING THAT IS THE BRAND-NEW HOPE COMMONS SHOPPING CENTER. THE'FOURTH ITEM MAY HAVE TO ASK FOR ASSISTANCE ON, IS CONCERNS ABOUT AFFORD– PRICE FOR THE SIZE OF THE CORN– FOR THOSE OF YOU CONCERNED REGARDING COST WHAT IS IT YOU WANT United States TO CONSIDER? > > I REQUIRED EVEN MORE TIME TO CONSIDER THAT.I ' M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THE CONTINUATION. > > OH. YOU POINTED OUT COST. > > I UH ACTUALLY MIGHT RECOMMEND THAT SIMPLY FOR EASE OF THIS BALLOT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE INTENT IF YOU ' RE VOTING FOR IT, I BELIEVE THERE ARE JUT A FEW ITEMS THAT FOLKS ON THIS COMMISSION ARE REALLY HOPING WE MIGHT TIGHTEN UP AND ALSO ADDRESS BUT IT MAY SIMPLY BE– > > THOSE THREE ITEMS AND ALSO THAT ' S MY MOTION. > > SECOND. > > EFFECTIVELY MOVED AND ALSO SECONDED. PRIOR TO WE BALLOT I DO INTEND TO ALLOW TIME FOR ANY DISCUSSION AS WELL AS TO BE CLEAR. >> P IF YOU THINK UH WE NED TO VOTE ON

THIS, THIS EVENING WHETHER YOU GOING TO ELECT UP OR DOWN YOU SHOULD ELECT NO ON THIS ACTIVITY >>, BUT ANY CONVERSATION? COMMISSIONER AL-TURK AND AFTERWARDS COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. BECAUSE APPEARS LIKE STAFF DOESN ' T WANT IT, > > I INDICATE I WILL ELECT NO ON THE CONTINUANCE. I RECOGNIZE YOU ' VE GOT A WHOLE LOT ON YOUR PLATE. AISLE BE VOTING NO IF WE CHOOSE IT TONIGHT BUT TO AT >> LEAST GIVE STAFF THE OPTION TO'SIMPLY GO WITH WITH IT. >> > > BALLOT NO EITHER METHOD. > > YES. > > COMMISSIONER BRINE. > > I ' LL VOTE YES FOR THE CONTINUATION. IF I NEED TO ELECT UP OR DOWN TONIGHT I ' M ADDITIONALLY VOTING NO SINCE I ASSUME IT REQUIRES EVEN MORE FUNCTION PUT RIGHT INTO IT REGARDLESS OF ALL THE FUNCTION THAT ' S BEEN DONE. AND ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND MR.

> > THAT ' S SIMPLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE RENUMBERING– > > O.K.. > > O.K.. > > I UH ACTUALLY MAY RECOMMEND THAT SIMPLY FOR REDUCE OF THIS BALLOT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE INTENT IF YOU ' RE VOTING FOR IT, I THINK THERE ARE JUT A FEW THINGS THAT FOLKS ON THIS PAYMENT ARE WISHING WE MAY TIGHTEN UP AND ADDRESS BUT IT MAY JUST BE– > > THOSE 3 ITEMS AS WELL AS THAT ' S MY MOTION. > > COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. > > I ' LL BALLOT YES FOR THE CONTINUANCE.> > THANK YOU. > > OKAY. > > WITH THE ONE THING GOTTEN A LOT OF E-MAILS IS EXPANDED HOUSING OPTIONS.

> > ALSO BALLOT AGAINST CONTINUATION. > > THANK YOU. > > THANK YOU ALL REALLY MUCH. > > TWO OTHER PRODUCTS. > > WITH THE ONE THING GOTTEN A WHOLE LOT OF E-MAILS IS EXPANDED HOUSING OPTIONS.

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