>> > > EXCELLENT MID-DAY. WELCOME TO THE DURHAM PLANNING COMPENSATION. THE MEMBERS OF THE DURHAM PREPARATION COMMISSION HAVE BEEN SELECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE REGION BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THE CHOSEN OFFICIALS. YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE ELECTED AUTHORITIES HAVE THE LAST WORD ON ANY PROBLEM PRIOR TO US TONIGHT. PLEASE GO TO THE TABLE TO MY LEFT AND INDICATOR UP TO SPEAK if YOU DESIRED TO TALK ON AN PROGRAM PRODUCT TONIGHT. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WANTED TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS CLEARLY WHEN YOU INVOLVE THE PODIUM. PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY AND INTO THE MICROPHONE. EACH SIDE– THOSE TALKING IN FAVOR OF AN ITEM AND THOSE TALKING IN RESISTANCE TO AN ITEM– WILL HAVE 10 MINS TO PRESENT FOR EACH AND EVERY SIDE. THE MOMENT WILL BE DIVIDED AMONGST ALL INDIVIDUALS WANTING TO SPEAK. ALL ACTIVITIES ARE SPECIFIED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE SO IF An ACTIVITY STOPS WORKING OR TIES, THE SUGGESTION IS FOR DENIAL.THANK YOU.
I DO INTEND TO ALSO ADD THAT THIS IS BEING PROGRAM ON SPECTRUM, AT&T U-VERSE, FRONTIER, GOOGLE FIBER. IT IS ALSO STREAMED ON THE CITY'' S YOU TUBE, FACEBOOK, AND TWITTER ACCOUNTS. NEEDLESS O T SAY, WE ARE LIVE! THANK YOU. CANISTER I HAVE THE ROLL PHONE CALL PLEASE? [ROLL TELEPHONE CALL] >> > > COMMISSIONER MORGAN IS EXCUSED. DEMANDS AN JUSTIFICATION. [ROLL PHONE CALL CONTINUES] >> > > THANKS >>. >> > > MADAM CHAIR. > > YES. > > I MOVE AN EXCUSED LACK FOR COMMISSIONER MORGAN. >> > > SECOND. > > THANKS. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND EFFECTIVELY 2ND THAT COMMISSIONER MORGAN BE GRANTED AN EXCUSED ABSENCE. MOVEMENT BY COMMISSIONER BRINE AND SECONDLIES BY COMMISSIONERSON. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS ACTION, LET BIT KNOWN BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT-HAND MAN.– JOHNSON. THE NEXT THING. AUTHORIZATION OF MINUTES AND UNIFORMITY STATEMENT FOR, , THE OCTOBER 15TH MINUTES. I'' D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER BRINE >>. > > UM, MADAM CHAIR, I UH HAVE An ADJUSTMENT TO THE MINUTES.ON WEB PAGE 3
, THE TOP OF THE PAGE, THIS IS THE MOVEMENT RELATING TO THE OLIVE BRANCH ROADWAY CASE. I THINK IT NEEDS TO CLAIM RECOMMEND AUTHORIZATION OF INSTANCE Z 180015 WITH TWO ADDITIONAL DEDICATED ASPECTS. DUE TO THE FACT THAT APPLICANT DID OFFER US TWO COMMITTED ELEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING. >> > > THANK YOU. I CA– IF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS CAN BE MADE, I'' D LIKE TO DEMAND A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE. COMMISSIONER MILLER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED >>? > > YES. PLEASE. I ' M A LITTLE BAFFLED REGARDING THE OLIVE BRANCH ROADWAY MOTION ACTIVITY DOCUMENTS IN THE MINS. IN THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT IT SAYS MORGAN DURING KIN, ETC, VOTED NO. I VOTED NO. >> > > SORRY, ARE YOU MENTIONING OLIVE BRANCH O OR THE FLUM FOR WOODLAND HILLS? >> > > OK. I ' M SORRY. >> I AM, I GOT MYSELF MIXED UP. > > WE ' RE GOOD ON THAT PARTICULAR, OK. >>> > EVERY LITTLE THING ' S FINE >>. > > EXCELLENT. >> THANK YOU. > > O.K.. I WILL CERTAINLY CAPTIVATE An ACTIVITY TO AUTHORIZE THE MINUTES AND UNIFORMITY STATEMENT FROM OCTOBER 15, 2019, WITH CHANGES AS PRESENTED. >> > > SO RELOCATED. >> > > SECONDLY >>. > > OKAY. MOVEMENT BY– THAT DID THE– BY COMMISSIONER BRINE AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER– OK– COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. IT ' S LIKE, WE ' LL OBTAIN THIS WITH EACH OTHER. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, LET IT BE KNOWN BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE. O.K.. CHANGES TO TH SCHEDULE. WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.-TEAM WANT TO INCLUDE ONE PRODUCT UNDER NEW BUSINESS. WE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONER TESTIMONIAL AN AMENDED CONFERENCE ROUTINE FOR 2020. WE HAVE DISPUTE FOR THIS ROOM FOR SEPTEMBER DAY SO WE REQUIREMENT TO PUSH OUR MEETING O OUT ONE WEEK. COMMON COUNCIL'' S GOING TO NEED THIS SPACE THE DATE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD USAGE THIS SPACE, SO WE'' RE NOT GOING TO BE BUMPING CITY COUNCIL OUT OF THEIR CHAMBERS, SO AT THE E APPROPRIATE TIME LATER AT NIGHT I'' D LIKE TO TESTIMONIAL THAT AND HAVE THAT APPROVED.MR. MILLER. >> > > MADAM CHAIR, SINCE WE'' VE SIMPLY REVIEWED IT, I MOVE WE CHANGE OUR ADOPTED MEETING TIMETABLE FOR 2020 BY MOVING THE ARRANGED CONFERENCE DATE FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING BACK ONE TO ONE WEEK LATER. >> > > SEPTEMBER 15TH. >> > > TO THE TUESDAY FOLLOWING THE CURRENTLY-SCHEDULED TUESDAY. >> > > MANY THANKS. ACTIVITY BY COMMISSIONER MILLER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SALT WATER THAT WE MAKE THE AUH IDEAL ADJUST M AS PRESENTED.ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS ACTIVITY LET IT BE KNOWN BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT-HAND MAN. O.K.. SO THERE ' S NO NEED FOR US. > > THANKS. APPRECIATE THAT. >> ONE LAST POINT. STAFF I WISH TO MENTION FOR THE DOCUMENT THAT ALL PREPARING DEPARTMENT HEARING ITEMS HAVE BEEN MARKETED ACCORDING TO STATE AND LOCAL REGULATION, AND TESTIMONIES GET ON DOCUMENTS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THANKS. >> > > OK. APPEARS LIKE WE HAVE NO ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PROGRAM. WE CONTAINER ACTION TO THE NEXT THING WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. I PUT ON'' T HAVE ARE THE– THE REGISTER SHEETS, PLEASE. >> > > MADAM CHAIR, WHILE WE'' RE GETTING THE INDICATION UP SHEETS TO YOU, I'' D SIMILAR TO TO MOVE AUTHORIZATION OF THE PROGRAM AS PRESENTED. >> > > MANY THANKS, COMMISSIONER BRINE. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SALT WATER, AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER AL-TURK THAT WE AFTER THAT AUTHORIZE THE PROGRAM AS PRESENTED.ALL IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION LET IT BE KNOWN BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT-HAND MAN. ALL OPPOSED. OKAY UH. NOW WE ' RE READY FOR THE PERSONNEL REPORT AND THE FIRST PRODUCT. > > EMILY STRUTERS WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. INSTANCE Z1900004, 600 NORTH ROXBORO. THE CANDIDATE IS TIM SIVERS WITH HORVATH ASSOCIATES..707 ACRE SITE LOCATED AT 600 NORTH ROXBORO ROAD LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITATIONS. CANDIDATE SUGGESTS TO MODIFICATION ZONING FROM R ARE UM TO RU-M(D )IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE THICKNESS. THE PROPOSED, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS ASSIGNED MEDIUM-HIGH THICKNESS RESIDENTIAL ON THE FLUM WHICH IS CONSIST WITH ZONING DEMAND. PROPOSITIONS CONTAIN MAXIMUM OF 14 MULTIFAMILY UNITS USING APARTMENT REAL ESTATE KIND. AERIAL MAP REVEALS WEBSITE IN RED AT THE CORNER OF NORTH ROXBORO ROAD AND MALLARD AVENUE IN URBAN ADVANCEMENT RATE. RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY UH PREVIOUSLY CONTAINED ONE-STORY STRUCTURE USED FOR CHURCH. FRAMEWORK DEMOLISHED. JUST RECENTLY APPROVED APARTMENT HOUSING TYPE. MIDTOWN ADVANCEMENT TIER TO THE SOUTH, CLEVELAND TO THE WEST, HIGHWAY TO THE EAST. SURROUNDING LOCATION INCLUDING SINGLE HOUSEHOLD REAL ESTATE, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, APARTMENTS AND PROPOSED COMMUNITY HOUSES. SITE CURRENTLY ZONED RU-M PROPOSING TO KEEP THE DEZING COUNTRY BUT ADD ADVANCEMENT PLAN.CHANGING ZONING TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL DENSITY IS PERMITTED BY UDO SECTION 641. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP BELOW REVEALS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED MEDIUM-HIGH KENSTY ON FUTURE LAND USAGE MAP WHICH IS REGULAR WITH THE REZONING REQUEST. DEVELOPMENT PLAN OFFERS WEBSITE GAIN ACCESS TO POINTS, BUILDING AND VEHICLE PARKING ENLE VE LEPS, TASK BORDER BUFFERS AND MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA PURVIEW. KEY DEDICATIONS, 14 APARTMENT HOUSING TYPES, RENOVATIONS AS REQUIRED AT TIME OF SITE PLAN AND STYLE COMMITMENTS INCLUDING BRICK-BANDED SIDEWALKS. PROPOSED RU-M(D)ZONING DEZ IG NEIGH FOLLOWS PRESENT MEDIUM-HIGH THICKNESS ON FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND RELEVANT PLANS. SIT REGULAR WITH POLICY 212 D, 231 A, 232 A AND 11.11 A.STAFF DETERMINE THIS IS DEMAND FOLLOWS THE EXTENSIVE PLAN AND OTHER PLANS AND STATUTES AND PERSONNEL IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >
> THANK YOU. I ' M GOING TO– AT THIS TIME GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DO HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUBSCRIBED TO SPEAK: TIM SIVERS, JAMES BRADFORD. > > THANKS >>. TIM SIRS WITH HORVATH ASSOCIATES. THANK YOU E EMILY FOR YOUR and your SERVICE THIS JOB. AS MENTIONED THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR REZONING FROM RU-M WHICH >> PERMITS 12 DEVICES PER ACRE TO RU-M(D)FOR OPTIMUMS OF 20 SYSTEMS PER ACRE. SECTION 641 OF THE STATUTE NEEDS THAT IN EXCESS OF THE 12 UNITS PER ACRE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS ACCEPT WHICH OPTIMUM IS THE 20 SYSTEM PERS PAIN. PROJECT AREA IS.7 ACRES. PERMITS EIGHT UNITS AS CURRENTLY SITS, AND THIS REQUEST IS TO BOOST IT TO A 14 UNITS; TOTAL OF 6 SYSTEMS FOR THE RISE. WE DID HOLD A VOLUNTARY COMMUNITY CONFERENCE FOR THIS PROJECT. WAS HUNG ON SEPTEMBER 23RD AT DURHAM CONVENTION CENTER.WE HAD TWO NEIGHBORS REVEAL UP. THERE WERE A PAIR VARIOUS OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT GOT TO O BENT ON ME THAT WERE NOT ALE TO BE IN ATTENDANCE. BOTH NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS THAT APPEARED, THAT WAS A COPLE SO IT WAS ONE OWNER, IN ADDITION TO SURROUNDING PROPRIETORS THAT CONNECTED TO ME
WERE ALL IN APPROVAL OF THE JOB. THE ADVANCEMENT PLAN HIGHLIGHTS COMMITMENTS TO BUS STOPS, ARCHITECTURAL LAYOUT COMPONENTS, LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, BUILDING AND PARKING TROUBLES, 70 %IMPERVIOUS LOCATION, OPTIMUM OF 70 SYSTEMS ALONG WITH ACCESSIBILITY POINTS ON ROXBORO AND MALLARD METHOD. ALSO DEVOTES TO UPGRADING SIDEWALKS AND CON DESTRUCTING BLOCK BANDING ALONG PORTIONS OF THE SIDWALK. IN ENHANCEMENT TO THESE COMMITMENTS ON THE ADVANCEMENT STRATEGY, I ' D LIKE TO SUPPLY ADDED DEDICATIONS THIS EVENING AND INTENDING I SENT THESE TO PREPARATION AND THEY HAVE REVIEWED THESE. PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF DIFFERENT CANT OF TENANCY PROVIDE $1,500 CONTRIBUTION TO THE DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS. SECOND ONE WOULD BE BEFORE ISSUANCE OF A CARBON MONOXIDE,'OFFER A SINGLE$ 1,400 PAYMENT TO FUND.URHAM AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE- I DID HAVE A POSSIBILITY TO CONSULT WITH A FEW OF YOU AND I VALUE THE TIME THAT YOU OBTAINED OF YOUR SCHEDULE TO CONSULT WITH ME.I ' M SORRY I COUNT REACH ALL A OF YOU BUT IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS, I ' M AVAILABLE FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE DESIGNER IS HERE TONITE ALSO. THANK YOU. > > THANK YOU. MR. JAMES BRADFORD. > > GREAT NIGHT.
JAMES BRADFORD 7616 HERNDON ROADWAY. MY PARTNER AND I UH OWN THE PROJECT BESIDE THIS TASK, THE TOWNHOMES, ELLIOTT SQUARE. WE MET THE DEVELOPER SOME MONTHS AGO AND WOULD JUST >> LIKE TO ASSISTANCE THEIR JOB. >> > > MANY THANKS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THE 600 NORTH ROXBORO JOB? IF NOT, I ' M GOING TO GIVE and close the public hearing OUR COMMISSIONERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK INQUIRIES. I ' M GOING TO BEGIN WITH COMMISSIONER BAKER WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A STATEMENT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. > > THANKS'. INTENDED TO LET EVERYONE NOTIFICATION CLOSE THAT I UH LIVE NEARBY BUT I AM A RENTER AND SO I'DID NOT OBTAIN A LETTER AND MY PROPERTY MANAGER DID AND SO I DID GET IN TOUCH WITH STAFF AND SEE TO IT THAT THERE AREN ' T, THAT THERE IS NO FACTOR I OUGHT TO BE UP HERE ELECTING AND THEY CONFIRMED I NEED TO BE UP BELOW AND SHOULD TAKE A VOTE.THANK YOU. > > MANY THANKS. IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT A RECUSAL WAS NOT NECESSARY FOR COMMISSIONER BAKER, AND WE INTENDED TO BASICALLY STATE THAT FROM THE GET GO. OPENNESS. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS CONCERN? I ' M GOING TO BEGIN WITH COMMISSIONER >> SALT WATER AND COMMISSIONER DURKIN. > > MANY THANKS. THIS IS A CONCERN FOR PERSONNEL. THERE IS A DEDICATION TO NOT MAS QUALITY AND TO NOT CLEAR CUT, WHICH NORMALLY I ' D BE FIRED UP REGARDING EXCEPT ON THIS PARTICULAR WEBSITE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS ALLOWS THE END RESULT TO BE EXEMPT FROM ARE THE REQUIRED TREE COVERAGE;> IS THAT CORRECT? > > THAT ' S CORRECT. THE REQUIRES TREE PROTECTIONS DOES NOT APPLY GAVE THAT IMPLIES TO VERIFY THOSE COMPONENTS ARE PROVIDED THEREFORE THEY ' RE DOING THAT USING MESSAGE DEDICATION. > > THANK YOU. PERSONALLY FOR THE CANDIDATE, I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE SEEN THE TREE COVERAGE. ANOTHER INQUIRY >> EITHER STAFF OR CANDIDATE CAN RESPONSE, BUT COULD WE HAVE MADE USE OF THE AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE DENSITY BENEFIT ON THIS? WE ' RE STARTING WITH 12 DEVICES, THE 15 %, YOU OBTAIN 1.8 WHICH I ' M >> HOPING WE COULD ASSEMBLE TO TWO AND OBTAIN 14 DEVICE BUS TWO OF THEM WOULD BE AFFORDABLE AND TO ME HAVING SOME AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE IN THIS LOCATION SO CLOSE TO THE DOWNTOWN RATE WOULD BE REALLY DESIRABLE.COULD IT HAVE BEEN USED? > > AFFORDABLE HOUSING THICKNESS UH BONUS IS'ALLOWABLE IN THIS FIELD. I CAN ' T TALK TO IF THE CANDIDATE PLANS ON USING THAT OR OTHERWISE. > > O.K.. THE QUSTION COMES TO THE APPLICANT. [LAUGHTER] > > NO, SIR, WE ' RE NOT GOING USE DENSITY. THAT DENSITY BONUS THAT TIME THAT ' S WHY WE CAME THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS TO INCREASE> DENSITY. > > OKAY, WELL, ALLOW ME TO CHECK OUT THIS FROM A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT IF YOU ' LL KEEP AT THE MICROPHONE. THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCE UNITS WILL REMAIN IN >> EACH APARTMENT OR CONDO BUILDING? > > SO THERE ' S– I ' M NOT DEDICATING TO A NUMBER OF> BUILDING. THERE WOULD BE EITHER 1 OR 2 BUILDINGS. TOTAL OF 14 SYSTEMS. RIGHT CURRENTLY WE HAVE A WEBSITE STRATEGY AS PERSONNEL SAID THAT HAS AN AUTHORIZATION FOR 8 >> SYSTEMS IN THAT BUILDING SO WE MAY INCREASE THAT TO An OVERALL OF 12 DEVICES, AND SUPPLY ANOTHER PERSON DEVELOPING WITH LARGER UNITS OR OFFER A 2ND STRUCTURE THAT ' LL HAVE An OVERALL OF THE SIX UNITS WE ' RE BELOW'TONIGHT REQUESTING. > > OK. WOULD YOU CONSIDER MAKING ANY OF THE DWELLINGS IN THESE BUILDING AFFORDABLE? > > NOT AT THIS TIME, SIR. > > WHY NOT? > > IT COMES DOWN TO THE, THE OBJECTIVE THAT THIS CUSTOMER IS TRYING TO REACH AND THE PLANNED TARGETS ARE– TESE ARE GOING TO BE HIGHER-END CONDOS, SO THOSE LOCATIONS OF THE– OUGHT TO BE DOWN'CLOSER TO THE DOWNTOWN TEER'. I COMPREHEND YOUR DEMAND BUT RIGHT BELOW WE ' RE STRAIGHT BESIDE MIDTOWN TEER BT WE ' RE SEEKING HIGER-END CONDOS IN THIS FIELD. >> > > WE SIMPLY >> PASSED A # $5 BILLION BOND–$ 95 MILLION BE ON THE AND THE FACTORS IS DISTINCTION BETWEEN FAIR MARKET PRICE AND AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE WAS RECOGNIZED SO THAT DIFFERENCE COULD BE COMPOSED FROM A FEW OF THIS BOND MONEY WHEN THE CITY FIGURES OUT HOW THEY ' RE GOING ADMINISTER EVERYTHING.IT SEEM TO ME YOU ' RE NOT GOING TO LOSE ANY MONEY IF YOU PLACE IN A FEW UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. > > YOU STRUCK THE NAIL ON THE HEAD THERE, TILL THE CITY FIGURES THAT OUT. IT ' S NOT BEEN TOTALLY IDENTIFIED YET. I ' LL DISCUSS THAT WITH MY CLIENTS BU FOR RGHT NOW I ' D LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH AS-IS. > > THANK YOU. > > COMMISSIONER DURKIN'. > > TO ADD TO HIS QUESTION I HAVE A CONCERN FOR TEAM RELATED. IF THIS WAS AUTHORIZED, COULD THEY THEN ALSO USAGE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DENSITY REWARD TO FURTHER BOOST THAT NUMBER? > > ONE EVEN MORE TIME. > > RER REZONING TO 14, WOULD STLA THE ALTERNATIVE OF YUGZ'AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE THICKNESS BENEFIT GOING'OVER 14? > > YES. > > SO THEN GOING BACK TO THE APPLICANT', THEN I DIRECTLY >> UH WOULD PREFER THAT WAS CONSIDERED.I THINK$1,400 TO AN AFFORDABLE> REAL ESTATE PROGRAM IN LOU OF ADDING AFFORDABLE UNITS IS NOT COMPARABLE AND NOT SUFFICIENT TO LOCATION THAT ' S SO CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN. IF YOU WISHED TO RESPOND TO THAT WITH THE >> OPTION OF INCREASING> THE UNITS, THEN ENJOY TO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU TO SAY. > > I DESIRE TO MAKE CLEAR, I ASSUME IT IS WHAT >> YOU ASKED BUT I INTEND TO MAKE CLEAR UH SO IT ' S CLEAR TO THE TARGET MARKET ALSO THAT THE
BUDGET FRIENDLY HOUSING THICKNESS BONUS CONTAINER BE ADD ON FOLLOWING REZONING SO IT ' S DONE BY RIGHT. THEY CANISTER DO IT IN ADDITION TO WHAT ' S RECOMMENDED BY'THIS REZONING. > > EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. > > CAN I RESPOND? > > YES. > > TIM SIVERS. WE ' LL LOOK AT THA. I HAD 30-SECOND CONVERSATION >> WITH THE CUSTOMER. WE ' LL HAVE A LOOK AT THAT AS An ENHANCEMENT TO THE 14 UNITS.FOR TOIGHT IS BOOST IN THE 14, BUT WE ' LL HAVE A LOOK AT IF THAT DENSITY IS AUTHORIZED OR IS REQUESTED TO EXCEED THE 14, WE ' LL TAKE A AND SEE IF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS An OPPORTUNITY. > > FOR ME TODAY GIVEN YOUR REACTION TO THE PRIOR QUESTIONS> I ' M A NO >> UNTIL >> THAT SOLUTION IS RESOLVED JUST HAVING THAT AS AN OPEN THING– YOU ' RE NOT COMMITTING TO ANYTHING WICH I COMPREHEND. > > UNDERSTOOD, YES, MA ' AM.
> > THANKS. > > OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO MY? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. > > MANY THANKS. INQUIRY FOR APPLICANT. THANKS. YOU POINTED OUT THAT THESE'ARE MEANT TO BE PREMIUM HOMES. DO YOU HAVE A COST POINT THAT YOU ' RE TARGETING FOR THESE TOWNHOMES? > > UM, THEY ' LL BE COMPARABLE TO ELLIOTT SQUARE ACROSS TH SREET WHICH IS IN THE 300 ARRAY. THREE TONS THOUSAND. > > SO ELLIOTT SQUARE, YOU ' RE ACQUAINTED WITH IT, IT >> ' S BEEN SET; I WAS >> UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT PRICE POINT WAS GREATER THAN $300,000. > > I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN >> THAT, IT ' LL BE MATCHING TO THAT TASK. > > [LOW AUDIO] > > RIGHT. > > PER SQUARE FOOT. > >. > > OK. > > COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. > > MANY THANKS, SIR. I ' LL ECHO WHAT >> COMMISSIONER BRINE AND DURKIN SAID. I BELIEVE THIS IS A PARCEL THAT ADJOINS A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT ARK CITIZEN HISTORIC AREA AND IN AN AREA THT ' S CURRENTLY GENTRIFIED AND ALREADY SEEN SKYROCKET HOUSING COSTS AND I THINK, YOU RECOGNIZE, INCLUDING 6 DEVICES, 14 DEVICES TOTAL IS NOT ENOUGH TO>– IT ' S NOT THE SORT OF SUPPLY'THAT WE REQUIREMENT TO REALLY MINIMIZE THE LONG-LASTING PRICE ISSUE WE HAVE IN DURHAM AND I THINK>> An ACTUAL DEDICATION WOULD BE THE MEANS TO >> GO SO I ' M> ADDITIONALLY LEANING TOWARDS ELECTING NO UNLESS I HEAR >> OR ELSE FROM MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON SOMETHING CONVINCING TO GUIDE ME ANOTHER MEANS. THANK YOU. > > THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > QUESTION FOR TEAM. GOING TO ONCE MORE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS OFFER IF THIS REZONING IS PASSED; THIS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL SITE, ONLY 2 AND 3 QUARTERS OF AN ACRE, PUTTING 14 UNITS ON IT.I ' M ASSUMING TO PERFORM THAT WE ' RE GOING TO BUILD A FOUR OR 5 TALE BUILDING THAT ' S GOING TO REMAIN ON THAT PODIUM CAR PARKING– DOESN ' T NEED TO BUT I ' M ASSUMING IN ORDER T OBTAIN ALL DEVICES IN THERE. THERE ' S A QUANTITY UH THAT ' S RELATED TO RU-M AND I ' M >> ASSUMING THAT TO OBTAIN THESE 14 UNITS IN >> THERE ON SO SMALL A SITE WE ' RE GOING TO CONSUME ALL THE AVAILABILITY VOLUME. ASSUMING THAT THAT ' S WHAT ' S GOING TO HAPEN, , WILL THAT CONSTRICT THE CAPABILITY OF THE CANDIDATE TO ADD AFFORDABLE UNITS EEN IF THE THICKNESS BONUS WOULD ALLOW IT? IN OTHER WORDS, WITH THE DENSITY BENEFITS, EXIST, IS'THERE REMEDY FOR THE MEASUREMENT NEEDS THAT WOULD BE IMPOSED WITHOUT BUDGET FRIENDLY SYSTEMS? > > THEY WOULD STILL REQUIREMENT TO SATISFY DI MENTIONAL CRITERIA, REGARDLESS. > >'SO THEY WOULDN ' T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO UP A FLOOR IN ORDER TO ADD AFFORDABLE UNITS'IF THEY WERE ALREADY AT THE MAXIMUM ELEVATION? > > THEY ARE PERMITTED– SORRY,'I ASSUME I– PERMIT ME TO CHECK REGULATION BEFORE I TALK NEXT TIME.LOOKING AT HEIGHT BELOW IT CLAIMS WHEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING THICKNESS INCENTIVE IS UTILIZED, ADDITIONAL 15 FEET OF ELEVATION WOULD MAY. > > THEY WOULD GET ONE RESIDENTIAL DEGREE, ESSENTIALLY? > > CORRECT. > > THAT AIDS A WHOLE LOT. MY CNCERN WITH >> THE PROJECT, QUITE TRUTHFULLY, HAS TO DO WITH ITS STYLE AND I ' VE DISCUSSED> THIS WITH THE PROGRAMMER WHO ' S BEEN EXTREMELY PATIENT WITH ME. ONE MEANS UH TO DEVELOP THIS BUILDING OR STRUCTURES IS– AND I THINK THE A LOT OF LIKELY METHOD– IS TO LOCATE THE RESIDENTIAL HOME UNITS UP ONE LEVEL IN ADDITION TO An AUTO PARKING PLATFORM, WHICH SUGGESTS THAT THE ROCK BORROW STREET EXTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE PARKING.UM, AND I DON ' T WANT TO HAVE A MAJOR HALLWAY LINED WITH STRUCTURES– NOT THAT THIS IS NECESSARILY GOING REPRESENT A TREND BUT LET >> ' S FACE IT THESE BUILDINGS MUCH LIKE THIS SET ARE GOING UP– I TIN ' T EASTBOUND KEEP AN EYE ON THEM. ONE OR TWO WERE STORY THETIES CURRENTLY THEY ' RE BRINGING UP EVERYWHERE. I ' M START TO SHED MY MENTAL PICTURE OF WHAT THIS COMPONENT OF TOWN LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE OF THE MODIFICATION AS. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE SOME TYPE OF HUMAN BEING RANGE ARCHITECTURAL FUNCTION AT THE GROUND DEGREE DEALING WITH ROXBORO ROAD. UM, SO THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE EITHER USAGE THE STRUCTURE, DRIVE PAST IT, STROLL PAST THE STRUCTURE HAVE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS THAT THIS IS PEOPLE ROOM. THAT ISN ' T ALL FOUND OVER'. I ASSUME THAT SEVERAL OF THE BUILDINGS LIKE THE BUILDING I ANTICIPATE WILL BE BUILT BELOW, DON ' T REALLY ADVERTISE THEIR SCALE, THAT WITHOUT A TREE OR A PERSON STANDING ALONGSIDE THEM, YOU DON ' T KNOW WHETHER THEY ' RE TWO STORIES OR TEN TALES. AND I BELIEVE THAT ' S NEGATIVE DESIGN AND NEGATIVE DESIGN AND I ASSUME IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCEDURE THAT WE HAVE WITH THIS REZONING, WE CANISTER, IF THE PROGRAMMER ' S WILLING TO COMMIT TO IT, INTRODUCE SOME TYPE OF HUMAN-SCALE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AT THE STREET LEVEL SO I ' LL ASK OPENLY THE DESIGNER IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO COLLABORATE WITH TEAM BETWEEN CURRENTLY AND THE MOMENT THAT COUNCIL COES ALONG TO ADD A COMMITTED ASPECT THAT, UM, THAT– AND THE ONE I ' M THINKING OF IS THAT A PROMINENT ENTRANCE, ONE THAT WOULD BE FRAMED, LOCATED ON ROXBORO ROAD, AT LEAST ONE FOR EVERY STRUCTURE, , BE THERE TO ENSURE THAT'THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WALK PAST ON THE WALKWAY WILL CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A BUILDING FOR PEOPLE AND THEY ' RE NT ALL SITUATED ABOVE, AND I THINK THAT WILL, I ASSUME IT ' S WAY TOO MUCH TO ANTICIPATE THEM TO PUT BAY WINDOWS AND ALL THAT, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT'TO SAY THIS IS THE RANGE OF THE BUILDING, IT ' S A HUMAN-OCCUPIED BUILDING, AND IT INVOLVES THE STREET, WE ' RE NOT PUTTING INDIVIDUALS UP ABOVE THE STREET, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THAT ' S MOST LIKELY WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE ON THE INSIDE.I WAS WONDERING IF UH YOU WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH THE PERSONNEL TO INLUDE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THIS PROJECT. > > TIM SIVERS, HORVATH ASSOCIATES. OF COURSE, DEFINITELY. WE CONTAINER– AND UH YOU DID– I INDICATE, I ASSUME THIS IS PENALTY. I ' D LIKE'TO TESTIMONIAL THIS WITH MY ENGINEER WHO ' S NOT RIGHT HERE, BUT YES, THE HUMAN-STEAL, SOMETHING ON THE HUMAN SCALE TO BRING THAT TO ON THE FIRST FLOORING OF BOTH BUILDINGS. > > I ' M THINKING YOU ' RE GOING HAVE DOORS. > > EXACTLY CORRECT. > > DRESSING THOSE DOORS UP'A BIT SO THAT THEY PROGRAM THAT THEY ' RE NOT HIDDEN. > > YES. > > THANK YOU. > > I PICTURE PERSONNEL WILL HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON AND THIS THEN I ' D LIKEWISE LIKE TO COMPLY WITH BACK ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMENT, PREFERABLY. > > IT ' S A RELATIVELY >> SMALL REQUEST IF YOU ' RE READY TO DO IT. I WEAR ' T SEE ANY FACTOR TO DELAY THE JOB IF YOU ' RE GUARANTEE IS ADEQUATE FO ME AND SO'KEEPING THAT I ' M GOING TO VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ONE HOWEVER I HAVE TO SAY UH IT WOULD BE LOVELY TO HAVE A NUMBER OF >> AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR A PROJECT THIS SMALL I ' M NOT >> GOING DEMAND IT. >> > > IM GOING TO RECOGNIZE TEAM RIGHT NOW. > > THANKS.
>> > > EXCELLENT AFTERNOON. > > UM, THEY ' LL BE COMPARABLE TO ELLIOTT SQUARE THROUGHOUT TH SREET WHICH IS IN THE 300 ARRAY. > > CORRECT. > > THAT AIDS A WHOLE LOT. > > TIM SIVERS, HORVATH ASSOCIATES.> > WHICH IS FINE. > > DEFINITELY UH EXPLANATION WORTH NOTING. > > THANK YOU.
> > THANK YOU. > > DO I HAVE A QUESTION? > > THANK YOU. > > THANK YOU. > > THANK YOU.REQUIRED RATE BUMP ON THAT SHORT CONTOUR THAT'' S AT THE TOP OF THE HILLSIDE ON DENFIELD AROUND WHERE THE COLLEGE WOULD BE AND HIS NEIGHBORHOOD HE WANTS TO BUILD. WE ARE INUNDATED WITH BEING FLOODED, SO LOTS CARS WHEN TRAVELING, SO MUCH DANGEROUS WEB TRAFFIC WITH DUMP TRUCKS. IT'' S REALLY A BAD, POOR MIX. I WANT Y ' ALL TO APPEARANCE AT ALL THIS DETAILS. IF THEY WILL ALLOW, WE ' LL PROVIDE YOU, HAVE COPIES MADE FOR EVERYONE ON BELOW AND THE CITY COUNCIL. I'' LL BE FINE WITH THAT. EVERYBODY REQUIRES TO SEE AND RESEARCH THIS THANKS. >> > > MANY THANKS. I HAVE ONE OTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS ACTUALLY JOINED: KA SANDRA– I EXCUSE NOT HAVING THE ABILITY TO MAKE OUT THE SURNAME, IF YOU COULD ASSISTANCE ME. >> >
> SALAMEN.ON PART OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORHOOD– >> > > PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND NAME. >> > > KA SAN DA, 200 MONTH ROADWAY AND ON PART OF MY NEIGHBORS AND MY COMMUNITY, I'' M ASKING THE INTENDING BOARD TO LOK AT STOPLIGHT TO BE PUT ON MONK AND ROXBORO BECAUSE WITHIN THE LAST WEEK THERE HAS BEEN A MINIMUM OF FOUR MISHAPS AND IT'' S LOCATION ANYWAYS SO IT WOULD BE SAFE AND BETTER IF THEY WOULD PUT A QUIT RIGHT AT THAT LOCATION– LIGHT AT THAT PLACE. FEE TO HEAVY DEVELOPMENT THEY ' RE DOING AROUND THE HEBRON AREA AND DENFIELD THAT'' S WHAT ' S CONTRIBUTING TO A GREAT DEAL OF
THE TRAFFIC.SO, , IF THEY WOULD LOOK AT THAT IN BEHALF OF ME AS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY PROPRIETOR AND VARIOUS OTHER NEIGHBORS AROUND, WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE INTENDING COMPENSATION CONSIDER THAT TO PUT STOPLIGHT AT CORNERER OF MONTH AN ROXBORO ROAD. >> > > MANY THANKS. DO I HAVE OTER PEOPLE WHO WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK TO– I DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHERS WHO HAVE SUBSCRIBED– BUT DO I HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WISH TO SPEAK WITH THE HEBRON TOWN CASE PRIOR TO I UH CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I WILL CERTAINLY NEED YOU TO COME FORWARD AND AFTERWARDS MENTION YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND AFTERWARDS INDICATION YOUR NAME ON OUR LISTING. >> > > YOLANDA WILLIAMS 406 SUMMERTIME BREEZE CLOOIF, SUMMER SEASON WIND COMMUNITY AND I INTEND TO REITERATE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID. WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH THE WEBSITE TRAFFIC. WE WILL CERTAINLY NEED TRAFFIC CONTROL. I DID ATTEND THE MEETING IN JULY HELD AT THE CHURCH WITH MR. SIVERS. THE BULK OF MY NEIGHBORS DO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERNS WITH THAT SAID SUBDIVISION.ONE ISSUE WAS THE BARRIER, BUT THAT WILL BE TAKEN TREATMENT OF, BUT THE MAJOR CONCERN IS THAT OF THE KEY ENTRANCES OR THE KEY ENTRY WILL CERTAINLY COME WITH MY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WILL CERTAINLY LITERALLY COME RIGHT DOWN MY UH ROAD, PAST MY HOME, WHICH PRESENTLY IS A, , IT IS A BARRIER, ITSELF. IT IS JUST A WALL SURFACE, AND IN SPEAKING WITH THE FLOODING, I PUT ON'' T KNOW PRECISELY WITH THIS WOMAN AND HER HUSBAND LIVE BUT I CAN ATTEST TO FLOODING. VI A NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR THAT LIVES AT TAT END WHICH IS CURRENTLY SELLING HERRER HOME. SHE NEEDS TO TAKE HER OWN CASH AND BUILD ROCKS BESIDE HER BUILDING TO COMBAT SOME OF THE FLOODING BOILING DOWN IN OUR BACKYARDS.UM, SO I SIMPLY DESIRED YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO FACTOR TO CONSIDER WHEN IT INVOLVES THIS NEW GROWTH. > > THANKS. > > MANY THANKS. >> > > IF THERE ARE NO VARIOUS OTHER INDIVIDUALS >> THAT WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK, I ' M GOING TO CLOSE THE'PUBLIC HEARING AND GIVE– YES. > > THERE ' S ANOTHER– > > PLEASE INVOLVE THE MICROPHONE.> > > THERE ' S ONE EVEN MORE SCENARIO THAT HE HASN ' T POINTED OUT CONCERNING THAT'PROPERTY THEY WISH TO ESTABLISH. IT ' S CONCERNING A 40 LEVEL ANGLE FOR ABOUT SIX HUNDRED FEET COMING DOWN TO WHERE THEY WOULD WANT TO DO THE RETENTION POND. THE REQUIRE OF THAT WATER IF IT WAS HEFTY RAIN LIKE WE ' RE GETTING EVEN MORE AND MORE'OF COULD REALLY BUST WITH THE DAM AND GO FLOODING ALL OVER. > > MANY THANKS. THOSE ARE ADDED COMMENTS
>> FROM MS. DIANE BARTELL. I ' M GOING TO SHUT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GIVE COMMISSIONERS AN POSSIBILITY TO ASK QUESTIONS if THERE ARE NO VARIOUS OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO ' D LIKE TO SPEAK. I ' M GOING START WITH COMMISSIONER BUZBY AND COMMISSIONER BRINE. > > MANY THANKS, MADAM CHAIR. I THINK MY FIRST QUESTION I ' LL BEGINNING >> WITH PERSONNEL AND THIS IS MY ONLY QUESTION TO START, BUT IT WAS POINTED OUT THE CONNECTION ON CARVER ROADWAY AND I ' VE HEARD THIS IN OTHER PLACES TOO THAT THIS WILL LIKELY BRING ABOUT A COLLECTIONS OF ADVANCEMENT PROPOSITIONS, AND I ' M SIMPLY– CONTAINER PERSONNEL SHARE, ARE ANY PROPOSALS ENTERING THIS LOCATION TO AID OFFER United States An IMAGE OF WHAT TO EXPECT BECAUSE WE ' RE SIMPLY TAKING A LOOK AT THIS ON ITS OWN, BUT I COMPREHEND THERE ' S A GREAT DEAL EVEN MORE BEING AVAILABLE IN THE PIPELINE. WHILE WE DELAY I'WAS GOING TO ASK MR.SIVERS IF HE COULD SHARE ANYTHING ALSO.
I WAS HOPING TO HAVE TEAM GO FIRST IF THEY HAVE An ACTION. > > JAMIE SUNYAK WITH PREPARATION. CARVER ROAD IS NOT SHOWN ON> YOUR AERIAL SO IT ' S HARD TO PROVIDE YOU SOME CONTEXT BUT THERE IS AN APPLICATION THAT IS UNDERREVIEW, IT ' S CARVER STREET ASSEMBLAGE IN THE 500-600 VARIETY MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS AND HOUSES. I BELIEVE THE CANDIDATE, TIM SIFRS IS RIGHT HERE SO HE CONTAINER– SIVERS IS RIGHT HERE SO HE CANISTER SPEAK. THAT ' S UNDER TESTIMONIAL. ADJACENT TO THAT, THERE ' S ANOTHER PERSON INSTANCE THAT JUST WAS'RECENTLY, , SUBMITTED ALSO FOR RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO THE CARVER STREET ASSEMBLAGE SITE. > > EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. MR. SIVERS IF YOU COULD EXPAND ON THAT PARTICULAR. > > TH LOCATION I BELIEVE YOU ' RE ASKING ABOUT IS >> A LONG CARVER ROAD EXTENSION.THE ROADWAY THAT ' S JUST BEEN FRESHLY OPENED WITHIN THE LAST 30-45 KAYS. I AM THE APPLICANT FOR JOB THAT HAS ACTUALLY WITHIN SUBMITTED IN THAT LOCATION ON BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF CARVER STREET EXTENSION INCLUDES TOWNHOMES, SINGLE, AND APARTMENT FOR LEASE. IN THE 650 DEVICE RANGE. I ' M KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT ANOTHER ADVANCEMENT NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF CARVER, OXFORD, HAM LYNN THAT ' S LIKEWISE RESIDENTIAL THAT ' S A TOWNHOME AND SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS MIX'. I ' M NOT THE CANDIDATE ON THAT, HOWEVER, I ' M ACQUAINTED WITH THE TASK. I ' M LIKEWISE DEALING WITH 2 OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE AT THAT SAME CROSSWAY FOR COMMERCIAL DOPE. > > THAT ' S TERRIFIC. THANKS. >> THAT'' S ALL FOR NO, I WISHED TO MAKE CERTAIN WE HAD A FEELING OF WHAT WE ' RE EXPECTING TO SEE IN THIS FIELD, ESPECIALLY GIVEN TH INPUT THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE ELEVATED AND I RECOGNIZE WE DON'' T GET AL THAT'BELOW AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ' S A REVIEW A NUMBER OF United States HAVE BUT I ' M SHOT KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE DELIBERATE ON THIS THING TONIGHT.THAT ' S IT
FOR THE MINUTE. >> > > COMMISSIONER SALT WATER >>. > > MANY THANKS. I INTEND TO START WITH INQUIRY FOR STAFF. BY MY ACCOUNT, WE HAVE THREE NEW COMMITTED ASPECTS. THE $11,000 REPAYMENT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS; $16,000 REPAYMENT TO THE BUDGET FRIENDLY HOUSING; AND THEN IF I COMPREHENDED CORRECTLY, A SMALL CHANGE IN THE REAL ESTATE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE UP TO 160 UNITS BUT THE NEW DEDICATION WOULD BE OR MODIFIED COMMITMENT WOULD BE A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWNHOMES. >> > > MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WOULD BE TOWN HOUSE OR A COMBINATION OF TOWNHOMES AND SINGLE HOUSEHOLD. >> > > OK. PLEASE MAKE CLEAR IF YOU WOULD SIR. >> > > PERSONNEL IS CORRECT. IT'' S EITHER TOWNHOMES OR A MIXES OF TOWNHOMES AND SINGLE HOUSEHOLD. > > AND WHILE YOU ' RE AT THE MICROPHONE, THERE WAS'A LIMITATION THAT WHATEVER ' S AROUND YOU ' RE NOT GOING GO BEYOND 149 OPTIMAL HOUR TRIPS AND I ' >> M JUST CURIOUS, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? > > SO THERE ' S COUPLE THINGS WHERE THAT CAME FROM AND TRANSPORTATION MAY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HELP WITH ME ON THAT PARTICULAR, BUT THE 149 TOP HOUR JOURNEYS ORIGINATES FROM REALLY TWO THINGS IN THIS CASE.ONE, IT ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR WEBSITE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS TASK. I ' LL IT RATE THAT 160 DEVICES AS A FAST CALCULATION OF IF IT WAS ALL TOWNHOMES WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 80-90 TRIPS SO WE ' RE WELL UNDER THAT 149 TOP HOUR TRIPS. I WEAR ' T WANT THAT TO BE MISCONSTRUED. THE'VARIETY OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE PUT ON THIS WEBSITE WOULD NOT EVEN BE CLOSE TO THAT HEIGHT HOUR JOURNEYS. WHY THAT'' S CONSISTED OF IS IT WAS A CONNECTION BETWEEN W TRANSPORT THAT THEY ASK ME INCLUDE THAT FOR EXPLANATION. >> > > OKAY. WHILE YOU'' RE THERE I VU A FEW EVEN MORE CONCERNS. >> > > NATURALLY >>. > > WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WENT DOWN SUMMER WIND DRIVE? >> WHEN I WENT UP FOR THE AREA CONFERENCE WHENEVER THAT DATE WAS, > > I DROVE THAT LOCATION THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. JULY 30TH. >> >'> I ' M SUE YOU NOTICED THAT THERE ' S CONCERNING A 12 FOOT ELEVATION DIFFERENCE >>.
>> > > YES, SIR. > > 13'FEET. > > 13, O.K.. SO IT ' S GOING TO MAKE THAT'CONNECTION IT FEELS LIKE THERE ' S GOING TO BE A GREAT DEAL OF DUST MOVED. CONSIDERING THAT GEOGRAPHY OF'THAT WEBSITE, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT IT ' S MOT LIKELY TO BE APPARENT AND MASS GRADED;> IS THAT A FAIR SUMPTION? > > MORE THAN LIKELY, YES, SIR. >> > SO YOU'' RE GOING TO OFFER 20% TREE COVERAGE, BUT CONSIDERING THAT IT'' S A HEAVILY-WOODED SITE, THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN WOULD BE 80% TREE LOSS, WHICH YOU WILL CERTAINLY NOT, I UNDERSTAND YOU'' LL NEED TO REPLANT SOME TREE BUS I WEAR'' T THINK YOU ' RE GOING TO OFFSET THE 80%LOSS. TEXT DEDICATION 8, THIS WAS IN REACTION TO A BIKE PED REQUEST REGARDING HAVING BIKE LANES ON DENFIELD, AND THE WAY THE TEXT COMMITMENT CHECKS OUT IS IF ACCESS POINT NUMBER 3 IS CONSTRUCTED, AFTER THAT YOU'' LL PROVIDE THE EXTRA ASPHALT.
>> > > THAT ' S CORRECT >>. > > MY INQUIRY IS, WILL YOU GIVE BIKE PED LANES ALONG DENFIELD IRRESPECTIVE OF THAT THIRD ACCESS POINT? >> > > UM,'I ' D LIKE TO MAINTAIN THAT COMMITMENT AS IS FOR NOW. PRIMARILY DUE TO THE NEEDED ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT. IF WE MAKE THAT ACCESS TO DENFIELD WILL CERTAINLY BE IMPROVEMENTS TO POTENTIALLY UH BE IMPROVEMENT TO DENFIELD FOR THE ACCESSIBILITIES WHICH WOULD THEN INCLUDE THE BIKE LANES. >> > > O.K.. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, , THAT THIRD ACCESSIBILITY FACTOR WOULD SEEM TO BE ONE THAT'' S REQUIRED DUE TO THE FACT THAT IF YOU DON ' T HAVE THAT THIRD ACCESS FACTOR, YOU HAVE 2 GAIN ACCESS TO DIRECTS BUT AMONG THEM COMES WITH ALREADY-DEVELOPED COMMUNITY, AND IF SOMETHING OCCURS TO THE GAIN ACCESS TO POINT OFF OF HEBRON ROADWAY YOU AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AROUND, EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH AN SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.I THINK UPCOMING DOWN DENFIELD WOULD HAVING AN GAIN ACCESS TO POINT OFF OF DENFIELD WOULD BE GREAT AND WOULD AIDS SUPPLY ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE UP IN THE NORTHWEST FACTOR COMPONENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT ALSO AIMS TO ME LIKE AN ACCESS FACTOR THERE WOULD BE EASIER TO CONSTRUCT BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF THE ROADWAY AND THE LEVEL OF YOUR SITE ARE QUITE EVEN. > >. EXACTLY WHY WE SHOWED IT >> AS AN OPTIONAL. IN THIS INSTANCE WE ' RE WORKING FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT ' S TRYING TO MARKET THE PROPERTY.IT ' S JOVEN TEAM. BECAUSE THERE ' S NOT A DESIGNER COLLECTION
IN'AREA FOR THIS, WE WISHED TO GIVE THAT AS AN CHOICE BUT DIDN ' T INTEND TO GIVE IT AS A DEDICATION AS A FULL NEED TO PROVIDE THE DESIGNER, WHOEVER THAT IS IN THE FUTURE, AN ALTERNATIVE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION THE KEY ACCESSIBILITY GETS ON HEBRON. INDEED, THE LINK TO SUMMERTIME WIND IS A REQUIREMENT AS A RESULT OF THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION MADE THAT ROAD STUB, AND YES HOWEVER THERE IS A HUGE TOPOGRAPHY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AT THE BACK OF THOSE HOME WHICH IS IS ALSO WHY DURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEET SOME NEIGHBORS SPOKE UP AND STATED OUR REALTOR TOLD United States WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A BUFFER BACK THERE. WELL, I ' M SORRY, THE REGULATION DOESN ' T NEED THAT WHICH IS WHY WE FUNCTIONED WITH THEM AND STATED'WE ' LL PROVIDE THE BARRIER, SORRY THAT WASN ' T THE SITUATION BUT WE ' LL ACTION UP AND PROVIDE THAT BARRIER FOR YOU.SO YES, THAT ' S AN ACCESS POINT, BUT THE PRIMARY ACCESS FACTOR WILL BE ON HEBRON IN WHICH WE ' RE OFFERING THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FOR IT. > > AND THINKING FROM THE MEANS HEBRON IS CURVED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, I ' M ASSUMING THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE BUILDING THE REALIGN PART THAT'' S ON YOUR BUILDING TO BE EXTENDED OVER TO ROXBORO SCHOOL WEBSITE? > > THAT ' S A RIGHT-OF-WAY COMMITMENT. WE ' RE NOT COMMITTING TO CONSTRUCT >> THAT'SECTION. IN FUTURE SCHOOL SITE THERE ' LL BE A CONNECTION OVER TO ROXBORO. WE ' RE GRANTING THAT RIGHT OF WAY, THAT LAND FOR THE FUTURE CONNECTION FOR THE FUTURE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION, SO WE ' RE COMMITTING TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION BUT NOT CONSTRUCTION. > > MANY THANKS FOR THAT INFORMATION. ONE LAST QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE ANY> IDEA WHAT KIND OF AMENITIES WOULD BE ATTENDED TO THE RESIDENCE THAT LIVE BELOW? > > DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ' S NOT A PROGRAMMER, I WEAR ' T. THE REGULATION NEEDS ACTIVE OPEN ROOM AND OPEN AREA AMENITIES BECAUSE OFTHE THICKNESS WILL CERTAINLY BE I THINK IT ' S EITHER 15 OR 16 %OF THE WEBSITE HAS TO CONTINUE TO BE IN OPEN ROOM AND A THIRD OF THAT HAS TO BE'ENERGETIC SUGGESTING FOOTBALL FIELDS, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE INCLUDED AS IT IS A DEMAND, SO IT ' S KNOT SOMETHING I CAN COMMIT TO TONIGHT BECAUSE SIT A UDO NEED. > > O.K.. THANK YOU EXTREMELY MUCH. > > YOU ' RE WELCOME. > > THANKS. COMMISSIONER DURKIN, ADHERED TO BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> > > SINCE THERE ' S NOT An ESTABLISH NATURAL HERB, I WILL CERTAINLY REFRAIN FROM ASING >> MY AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE THICKNESS BONUS OFFER INQUIRY. BUT INQUIRY FOR STAFF CONCERNS> CONCERNING RETAINAGE PAND AND ECOLOGICAL WORRIES EXISTED AN EIF REQUIRED OR AT WHAT POINT WILL THAT BE REQUIRED? > > STORMWATER REVIEWED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AT ADVANCEMENT PLAN PHASE THERE ' S EXTREMELY LITTLE DETAILS. DETAILED OF WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO DEAL WITH OR MANAGE STORMWATER WOULD BE FLUSHED OUT AT SITE PLAN DEGREE. > > O.K.. > > COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. > > THANK YOU. SO MAYBE PERSONNEL CAN ASSISTANCE ME CLARIFY THIS. I UH HEARD THE APPLICANT STATE AND COMMISSIONER BRINE STATE THAT THE >> OPTIMUM UNITS OF 160, BUT WHEN I ' M LOOKING> AT, SAY, TRANSPORTATION IMPACT AND THE MAXIMUM INFLUENCE USE, YOU HAVE 135 SOLITARY FAMILY UH RESIDENCES AND 19 COMMUNITY HOUSES.THAT ' S 154 SYSTEMS. EXISTS FACTOR FOR THAT INCONSISTENCY OR IS IT 160 OR 154? > > I ' M GOING TO SEEK ADVICE FROM TRANSPORT BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ' S CONNECTED TO THE OPTIMAL TOP HOUR TRIPS BUT I WISH TO CONFIRM WITH THEM. >'> EARLENE THOMAS, I BELIEVE THAT ' S UH TIED WITH THE >> ORIGINAL MIX OF UNITS CANDIDATE WAS CONSIDERING TO GET THE DETERMINATION OF WHETHER OR NOT A TIA WAS NEEDED. AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS NOT A COMMITMENT TO A SYSTEM MIX, WHICH IS WHY WE REQUIRED THE STATEMENT REGARDING THE LIMITED TO 149 HEIGHT HOUR TRIPS, BUT APPLICANT HAS CHANGED TEXT DEDICATION TO SAY THERE WILL BE A DEVICE MIX AND THAT COULD VARY, , BUT CONTAINER NOT EXCEED THAT 149 OPTIMAL HOUR TRIPS. > > SO IT ' S THE HEIGHT HOUR JOURNEYS THAT ' S BASICALLY DRIVING FINAL NUMBER? > > CORRECT. CORRECT. > > AND SO, TO THE CANDIDATE, IN ACKNOWLEDGING THE ISSUES PARTICULARLY, THE WHEN IT RINS AND ALL THE WATER THAT GATHERS WHEN DRIVING AND THINGS; AM I CORRECT'IN ASSUMING THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT UP WHEN >> YOU MET WITH THE AREAS> AND PRESENTED, WHAT NOT? WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THE PRESENT FACT AND AFTER THAT THE TASK THAT YOU ' RE PRESENTING TONIGHT, WHICH IS BASICALLY SIMPLY CUTTING AND MASS GRADING, AND THE PIPE PROJECTS THAT YOU DISCUSSED THAT WILL LIKELY ENTAIL MORE MASS RATING AND CUTTING DOWN TREES? WHAT ' S YOUR ACTION TO THE REALITY CURRENTLY AND THE POTENTIAL INFLUENCE OF THIS TASK, PARTICULARLY, ON POSSIBLY CONTRIBUTING MORE TO THE UNFAVORABLE IMPACT THAT THE EXISTING COMMUNITY IS EXPERIENCING? AND IF IT ' S A SITUATION OF YOUR RETENTION SYSTEM THAT YOUR PROGRAM IN THE SITE IS APPROPRIATE and sensible SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS IT, HOW CANISTER YOU ENSURE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT, ACTUALLY, HOLDS TRUE? > > COUPLE QUESTIONS AND PAIR ANSWERS THERE.FIRST, I DO WISH TO CLARIFY, IT'IS 160 DEVICES. THE OPTIMUM OF SAYS 154 FOR THE 135 AND 19 BUT OUR PROPOSAL DOES HAVE 160, OKAY. WHEN IT COMES TO THE STORMWATER, THANKS FOR ASKING THAT. I WAS HOPING THAT INQUIRY >> WOULD SHOW UP SO I ' D HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO TALK WITH THE ISSUES OF THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS. I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE NEIGHBORS– I SAY SORRY YOUR NAME WAS– > > MARTELL. > > THE MARTELL HOUSEHOLD ARE LOCATED– CORRECT ME IF I ' M MISDOING– I RELY ON THE UPPER, LET'' S SEE, NORTH TO WEST EDGE OF YOUR HOME ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DENFIELD, ALMOST ACROSS FROM WEEPING HILLSIDE, RIGHT UP IN BELOW? > >> > YEAH. >> THIS IS OUR RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LINE BELOW. > > AND SPEAKING WITH THE RIGHT HERE, CHURCH IS DIRECTLY ADPROSZ CRYING HILLSIDE, THEY ' RE DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH IS IN WHICH THEIR BUILDING IS.AND IF YOU DISCOVER ON THE EXISTING PROBLEMS STRATEGY, THE TOPOGRAPHY BECAUSE LOCATION, YES T EXISTING, THERE ' S EXISTING LOW AREA THAT DRAINS PIPES >> TO THAT NORTHWEST CORNER ALMOST POINTED DIRECTLY AT THEIR HOME. OUR SITE WILL CERTAINLY BE'REGRADED– GOOD AMOUNT OF TOPOGRAPHY CHANGES ON THIS– OUR
SITE WILL CERTAINLY BE REGRADED AND WHETHER THERE ' S A STORMWATER CENTER IN THAT PLACE OR IF THAT AREA IS BROUGHT TO A DIFFERENT AREA AND TREATED– THOSE DETAILS HAVEN ' T BEEN DESIGNED YET BECAUSE TR ' S NOT A PROGRAMMER ENTAILED– HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT STORMWATER DOES REQUIRE WHATEVER ' S FALLING OFF-SITE NOW WE CAN NOT BOOST THAT.SO THERE ' S– FOR INSTANCE, TOP HOUR, THERE ' S QUANTITY OF WATER IN A RAINSTORM'THAT FLOWS OFF OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY'NOW. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE T RISE THAT. WE ACTUALLY NEED TO HOLD THAT WATER AND SLOW THAT DOWN OVER A THREE-FIVE DAY BEER YOD LAUNCH THAT BACK DOWN TO THE EXISTING NETWORK. THEIR HOME, YES, THERE IS SOME EXISTING STORMWATER THAT RUNS FROM THIS HOME TO THAT, AND IF THAT DOES CONTAIN, IT ' LL NOT BE INCREASED.AS FOR EXISTING FLOODING ISSUES, THEY LIVE THERE, THEY ' RE THE ONES MINDFUL OF THIS, I HAVEN ' T BEEN MADE AWARE. IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING I SHOULD STATE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROJECT, THE EXISTING GROWTHS TO THE RIGHT OR TO THE EAST', THE SAME APPLIES THERE
. WE ' LL HAVE STORMWATER CENTER THAT WILL NOT ONLY TREAT BUT HOLD THAT WATER BACK AND AID DEAL WITH THAT WATER AND HOLD THAT WATER TO SLOW THE LAUNCH OF IT DOWNSTREAM. > > SO IF I HEARD YOU PROPERLY, WHAT YOU ' VE ARTICULATED TO ME AND SHOWED BACK TO THE WORRIED NEIGHBORS IS THAT, YOUR OBLIGATION PER WHAT ' S REQUIRED WHEN YOU REACH WEBSITE PLAN IS THAT THEY CONTAINER ONLY– THEY MUST JUST ANTICIPATE THEIR BAD SCENARIO TO REMAIN BAD. YOU WON ' T MAKE THEIR BAD SITUATION WORSE? > > CORRECT >>. BASED OFF OF CITY AND STATE GUIDELINES. > >'MANY THANKS. EXIST OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK? COMMISSIONER BAKER AND AFTERWARDS COMMISSIONER MILLER. >'> I ' D LIKE TO ASK MY COMMISSIONERS TO CHECK OUT THE AIRBORNE OF THE SITE SINCE IT ' S AN AWKWARD SITE.IT ' S VERGED ON THE SOUTH AND> WEST BY DENFIELD AND HEBRON, AND ON THE >> EAST AND ON THE NORTH BY OTHER RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. TO THE NORTH, TO THE EAT THERE ' S JUST ONE LINK THAT CAN BE MADE. TO THE NORTH, NO CONNECTIONS. WE DID THAT. WE CONTINUE DO TO DO THAT. THAT ' S THE DNA WE HAVE IN LOCATION TO DEVELOP'THIS CITY IS DO DETACHED LOW THICKNESS RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. WE ' LL CONTINUE TO BE DOING THAT. THERE ARE CURRENTLY CREATING THAT METHOD WHETHER IT COMES BEFORE US'OR OTHERWISE, THEREFORE WE DEMAND TO BE DEMANDING BETTER FROM DEVELOPERS AND FROM OURSELVES.I AM NOT GOING BE BALLOT FO THIS. THIS'IS AN EASY NO FOR ME. THERE ARE A GREAT DEAL OF DETAILS THAT WOULD NEED TO MODIFICATION FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO ASSISTANCE THAT. I DON ' T THINK THE DEVELOPER WOULD AGREE TO MAKE THE VARIETY OF COMMITMENTS THAT I WOULD REQUEST. ONE OF THOSE DEDICATIONS BEING TO COMPLY WITH THE THOROUGH STRATEGY POLICY 222 D, SUBURBAN TEER MIXED USAGE WHICH NEED ENCOURAGES ELEMENTS OF CONVENTIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN INCLUDING PEDESTRIAN FOCAL NODE OF ACTIVITY, LAND MAKES USE OF THAT ARE PHYSICALLY AND FUNCTIONALLY INCORPORATED, DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS SUPPORTIVE OF A LARGE RANGE OF HOUSING ALTERNATIVES, EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, AREA CHOICES.S, TRANSPORTATION- THESE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE INCORPORATED IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS.POLICY 421 G, SUSTAINABILITY, INCLUDING IDEAL PRACTICES. 425 D, BOOSTS USE OF SOLAR ENERGY, WIND POWER. 422 A, VARIED HOUSING NEW GROWTH, HAVING A SELECTION OF HOUSING KIND. WE HEARD A GREAT DEAL OF COMMITMENT TO POSSIBLY HAVE 2 ALTERNATIVE FOR HOUSING, BUT MORE THAN LIKELY HAVE ONE, AND A I WEAR ' T THINK THAT ' S ADEQUATE FOR US T BE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS AND BEST PRACTICES THAT I ASSUME REQUIREMENT TO BE INCORPORATED, NOT JUST RIGHT INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT BUT INTO DOPE THAT COME PRIOR TO US.YOU ' VE HEARD ME SAY TESE BEFORE, AGAIN, COMPACT DENSE, INTEGRATED RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES, CONNECTED STREETS WITH SHORT-WALKABLE BLOCKS. WE ' VE DISCUSSED WHAT THOSE BLOCKS ACTUALLY MAY APPEARANCE LIKE IN PRACTICE, HAVING SIDEWALKS AND ROAD TREES BETWEEN PATHWAY AND VISUAL, HAVING PRIORITY RANGE OF ACCESSIBLE UTILIZES. HAVING CENTRAL OPEN AREAS, RESIDENCES THAT OVERLOOK TO THAT OPEN AREA AND PRODUCE
CIVIC PLACES. DEFENSE O AND ACCESS TO GREEN ROOM AND SMALL RANGE AGRICULTURE, ANTICIPATING POSSIBLE FUTURE BUS TRANSIT. I CAN GO ON AND ON WITH THE LISTING, AND THESE ARE DEFINITELY URGED IN THE DETAILED STRATEGY. THEY ' RE ALSO CONSIST WITH BEST PRACTICES. IT ' S, CERTAINLY, OUR WORK UP HERE, THIS IS A DISCRETIONARY DECISION, IT ' S OUR TASK UP HERE TO ESTABLISH IF DEVELOPMENT PROPOSITION SUGGESTED HEALTH AND WELLNESS, SAFETY, AND WELL-BEING FOR DURHAM. , if IT MAKES DURHAM A BETTER AREA.. COMMISSIONER SALT WATER MENTIONED THIS COULD LEAD TO 80%REDUCTION OF TREES. I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE MUST BE WORRIED REGARDING THAT AND THAT IF WE ' RE GOING TO PERFORM THAT– I ' M NOT SAY WE SHULDN ' T DO THAT– IF WE'' RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, IT FAR BETTER BE EXCELLENT AND BETTER MAKE DURHAM A BETTER PLACE.I WILL CERTAINLY NOT BE SUSTAINING THIS. I WILL BE VOTING TO, , I WILL BE BALLOT TO RECOMMEND REJECTION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THIS. > > MANY THANKS. COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > SO, MANY THANKS. I INTENDED TO ASK MS. BARTELL IF SHE ' D RETURN AS MUCH AS THE MICROPHONE SIMPLY TO MAKE CERTAIN I COMPREHENDED, AND I THINK THE STAFF CUT OFF THE EXPENSES. CONTAINER WE CUT THAT BACK'ON AGAIN BECAUSE YOU HAD A MAP THT I THINK WAS EVEN MORE INSTRUCTIONAL THAN THE ONE WE HAVE.
I THINK MY FIRST CONCERN I ' LL START >> WITH TEAM AND THIS IS MY ONLY CONCERN TO BEGINNING, BUT IT WAS POINTED OUT THE CONNECTION ON CARVER ROADWAY AND I ' VE HEARD THIS SOMEWHERE ELSE AS WELL THAT THIS WILL CERTAINLY LIKELY LEAD TO A SERIES OF GROWTH PROPOSALS, AND I ' M SIMPLY– CANISTER PERSONNEL SHARE, ARE ANY PROPOSITIONS COMING RIGHT INTO THIS LOCATION TO ASSIST PROVIDE United States An IMAGE OF WHAT TO ANTICIPATE BECAUSE WE ' RE JUST LOOKING AT THIS BY ITSELF, BUT I COMPREHEND THERE ' S A WHOLE LOT EVEN MORE COMING IN THE PIPE. IN THIS INSTANCE WE ' RE WORKING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY PROPRIETOR THAT ' S TRYING TO OFFER THE PROPERTY.IT ' S JOVEN TEAM. WELL, I ' M SORRY, THE STATUTE DOESN ' T REQUIRE THAT WHICH IS WHY WE WORKED WITH THEM AND CLAIMED'WE ' LL PROVIDE THE BUFFER, SORRY THAT WASN ' T THE INSTANCE BUT WE ' LL ACTION UP AND SUPPLY THAT BUFFER FOR YOU.SO YES, THAT ' S AN ACCESS FACTOR, BUT THE PRIMARY ACCESSIBILITY POINT WILL CERTAINLY BE ON HEBRON WHERE WE ' RE OFFERING THE ROADWAY RENOVATIONS FOR IT. THEIR HOME, YES, THERE IS SOME EXISTING STORMWATER THAT RUNS FROM THIS RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THAT, AND IF THAT DOES CONTAIN, IT ' LL NOT BE INCREASED.AS FOR EXISTING FLOODING ISSUES, THEY LIVE THERE, THEY ' RE THE ONES MINDFUL OF THIS, I HAVEN ' T BEEN MADE AWARE. WE HEARD A GREAT DEAL OF COMMITMENT TO POTENTIALLY HAVE 2 CHOICE FOR HOUSING, BUT MOST LIKELY HAVE ONE, AND A I WEAR ' T THINK THAT ' S GOOD SUFFICIENT FOR US T BE SUGGESTING AUTHORIZATION OF CRUCIAL FUNCTIONS AND IDEAL METHODS THAT I BELIEVE NEED TO BE INCORPORATED, NOT JUST INTO THIS ADVANCEMENT BUT INTO DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME PRIOR TO US.YOU ' VE HEARD ME SAY TESE BEFORE, AGAIN, COMPACT DENSE, INTEGRATED RANGE OF HOUSING KIND, CONNECTED STREETS WITH SHORT-WALKABLE BLOCKS.> > THAT IS CORRECT. > > THANK YOU. > > THANK YOU.
> > I WAS LOOKING AT THE TOP POE ON THE EXISTING PROBLEM Y ' ALLS MAP THAT WE WERE DIRECTED TO. > > YES. > > THAT IS CORRECT. > > WE STILL INCLUDE AND FOR CLARITY WE DO STILL INCLUDE CAPABILITY TO CONSTRUCT PLEAT TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT WHICH WOULD BE LESS WEBSITE TRAFFIC AS TRANSPORT STATED. > > MM-HMM.> > DO YOU HAVE ADDED'– > > THEY ' LL YIELD THEIR TIME.WE ' RE GOOD ON THAT. > > SO IF YOU ' RE PROFFERING THOSE DEDICATIONS TONITE, WE ' LL NEED TO KNOW IF THAT ' S ACCEPTABLE, OTHERWISE IF YOU ' RE NOT, TEN WE CONTAINER WORK WITH YOU ON THE LANGUAGE, BUT THAT ' S MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU ' RE PROFFERING IT TONIGHT. > > WE ' RE MOVING IT– > > EAST?
> > DO YOU HAVE ADDED'– > > THEY ' LL RETURN THEIR TIME.WE ' RE GOOD ON THAT. I ' M SORRY, I ONLY HEARD ONE OF THE PROFFERS AND I WAS GOING TO ASK CANDIDATE TO CLARIFY THAT, SO MAYBE– > > OKAY. > > SO IF YOU ' RE PROFFERING THOSE DEDICATIONS THIS EVENING, WE ' LL REQUIREMENT TO KNOW IF THAT ' S ACCEPTABLE, OTHERWISE IF YOU ' RE NOT, TEN WE CANISTER WORK WITH YOU ON THE LANGUAGE, BUT THAT ' S MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU ' RE PROFFERING IT TONIGHT. > > WE ' RE MOVING IT– > > EAST? > > WE ' LL BE TALKING A WHOLE LOT AFTER THIS MEETING.WE'' RE UNDER CONTRACT AN PUSHING IT BACK 30-60 DAYS WOULD TRULY HARMED THE PROCEDURE AT THIS TIME SO WE WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH ANY SORT OF CONTINUANCE TONIGHT.
>> > > THAT MEANS I'' M GOING TO VOTE NO SO SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT'' S HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK. >> THANK YOU. > > I DO WANT TO CLAIFY. I BELIEVE EARLIER I STATED THAT LOT SIZES WOULD BE SMALLER, IT ' S THE UNIT DIMENSIONS THAT WOULD BE SMALLER, NOT NECESSARILY THE LOT DIMENSIONS. WE ' RE LOOKING AT RETAINING SYSTEM SIZES SMALLER IN ORDER TO KEEP COST POINTS LOW. >> > > THANKS. COMMISSIONER AL-TURK AND COMMISSIONER DURKIN. >> > > MANY THANKS, CHAIR. IN A GREAT DEAL OF WAY THIS IS APPLICATION IS NOT VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST ONE AND WE VOTED ALL VERSUS IT, SO I'' M FLOWING THAT OUT THERE BUT I DO THINK BECAUSE I'' VE SPOKEN WTH CANDIDATE THAT THERE ARE– AND YOU'' VE MENTIONED IN YOUR RECORD TO US OR YOUR REPORT TO United States– THAT YOU'' RE THINKING OF A GREAT DEAL OF VARIOUS THINGS IN TERMS OF HOUSING KEYS IN N TERMS OF KEEPING THE TOWNHOMES AFFORDABLE, AND THN WE HAVIE PROBLEMS THAT COMMISSIONER BUZBY MENTIONED.I ' M WITH
HIM THAT I WANT TO SEE– IF IT DEPENDED ON ME I WOULD ALSO VOTE NO, BUT I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING GO HERE AND I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE RECOMMENDED A VARIETY OF MATTERS IN PRIVATE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BE DEDICATIONS. IN TH PAST, I ASSUME WE'' VE STATED WELL LET ' S WE ' LL PASS IT AND SE WHAT COMMON COUNCIL CLAIMS OR WE ' LL PASS IT SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPER DOING SOMETHING. I THINK THAT WE'' RE STARTING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT LESS SO ON THE PAYMENT AND I SUCH AS THAT WE'' RE DOING THAT LESS SO. I THINK'IT ' S WONDERFUL FOR United States TO HAVE DEDICATIONS FIRM COMMITMENTS SO I ' M WITH COMMISSIONER BUZBY. I ' D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING BELOW. I'THINK IT HAS POSSIBLE. TWO MONTHS, I ' D LIKE YOU'TO THINK OF THAT. I UNDERSTAND YOU ' VE CLAIMED YOU DON ' T WANT THE CONTINUATION, BUT I THINK SOME ADJUSTMENTS BELOW AND THERE WOULD> BE BENEFICIAL. > > COMMISSIONER BAKER. > > PROBABLY DON ' T ALSO NEED TO SAY THIS BUT I AGREE E WITH FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND POINTS THEY ' VE STATED AND WISHING TO SEE THESE DEDICATIONS TONIGHT AND OTHERWISE VOTING NO. THE INCONGRUITIES WITH MULTIPLE POLICIES. I BELIEVE THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH 231 A CONTINUOUS DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS TO ASSISTANCE ORDERLY ADVANCEMENT PATTERNS AND THIS IS NOT CONTIGUOUS WITH CITY LIMITS. THAT WOULD ALSO KIND OF PLAY INTO MY REASONING ON THIS. THAT'' S
>> ALL. > > MANY THANKS. ARE THERE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK? OTHERWISE– AND THANKS.– COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> > > SO, UM, TO THE CANDIDATE, WHEN IS THE PROBABILITY THAT IF YOU WERE TO GO BAC, EVEN THOUGH YOU REVEALED NEED NOT TO THAT THERE'' S An OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU COULD RETURN WITH SAY A PROGRAMMING OF THE WEBSITE THAT CONSISTED OF SINGLE HOUSEHOLD AND COMMUNITY HOMES. I RECOGNIZE YOU CLAIMED THAT THE DENSITY PROBLEM WAS An ISSUE AND WHEN WE MET YOU ALL HIGHLIGHTED THIS BUT JUST LISTENING TO SOME OF THE RESPONSES AND FROM BOTH THIS SIDE AND THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS, IS THAT ESSENTIALLY A NOT A SENSIBLE PROGRAMS BASED ON WHAT YOU'' VE ATTEMPTED TO PERFORM WITH THIS SITE SO FAR? >> > >
THS ACCURATE.WE ' VE LOOKED AT AS MENTIONED WE STARTED CHECKING OUT SINGLE FAMILY, WE DIDN'' T LOOK AT MIX OF SOLITARY FAMILY MEMBERS AND TOWNHOUSES AND AFTERWARDS WE ULTIMATELY END UP CHOOSING TOWN RESIDENCE IN ORDER TO MEET THAT DENSITY, BUT IN ORDER TO CONSIDER IT BEING NOT A COMPLETELY DULL GROWTH WE TOOK A LOOK AT DESIGN COMPONENTS OF VARY LAYOUT DESIGNS TO HEAD TO THAT POINT. WE ARE CONSIDERING OTHER– I INTEND TO HIGH LIGHT OTHER THINGS WE'' RE CONSIDERING MAKING A FEW OF THEM ALLEY-LOADED. THAT WILL CERTAINLY ALSO INCLUDE SELECTION AND ADDITIONALLY HAVE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING ADUs GIVEN THERE WILL BE SOME ALLEYS WE JUST CAN'' T COMMIT TO PERCENTAGE AT THIS MOMENT. IT'' S LIKELY MAKE AROUND 20% BUT AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO GET THE LANGUAGE STRAIGHT WITH PERSONNEL SO WE CONTAINER'' T MAKE THAT PROFFER TONIGHT BUT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT HAVING ALLEY-LOADED DEVELOPMENT, AND WHEN I I MENTIONED SQUARE VIDEO FOOTAGES OF THE REAL DEVICES, EXCELLENT NUMBER OF THEM WILL LIKELY NOT SURPASS 1,600 SQUARE FEET WHICH WILL ADDITIONALLY ASSIST WITH AFFORDABILITY. WE'' RE LOOKING AT PRODUCTION THE BLOCK SIZE OPTIMUM OF 700 FEET, THAT WILL CERTAINLY AID WITH WALKABILITY IN MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE AND LIVABLE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES.WE HAVE TO SERVICE LANGUAGE, THAT ' S THE ONLY FACTOR'WHY WE ' RE UNABLE TO MAKE THOSE PROFFERS THIS EVENING. IN TERMS OF ACTUAL MIX WE ' VE LOOKED AT THAT AND OUR GROUP HAS RETURN WITH IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ALL TOWNHOMES. > > AND SO JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF QUALITY, IS SO WHEN I MET WITH YOUR GROUP, I WAS MORE INCLINED TO ASSISTANCE A JOB SUCH AS THIS BUT THEN I UH WENT AND DROVE THE WEBSITE. WE READ THE APPLICATION, DROVE THE WEBSITE, AND SO I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER SALT WATER OR A PERSON STATED THAT YOU WENT AND DROVE IT AND IT ' S NOT A CONTIGUOUS LIKE FLOW OF THE EXISTING AREA WHICH IS TRUE, AN ONE COULD PERHAPS MAKE THE DEBATE IT COULD BE A TRANSITION ADVANCEMENT, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING NEW OR SLIGHTLY VARIOUS, AND SO WHEN THINKING CONCERNING BRIVENGING SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO AN EXISTING AREA, I ASSUME QUALITY MORE THAN GRAYISH IS EVEN MORE PREFERABLE TO ENSURE THAT NOT ONLY COMMISSIONERS AND ME BUT THE NEIGHBORS CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY WILL CERTAINLY SEE AND I RECOGNIZE YOU SPECIFIED WHEN I MET WITH YOU THAT THE DEVELOPER IS ABLE TO DESIGN A PRODUCT TO MEET WHAT YOU ' RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE KEEPING THAT SPECIFIC SITE, AND I ' M EVEN MORE UNDECIDED NOW IN THE FEELING THAT I'TOO AGREE WITH THE NOTION OF MAYBE TAKING A CONTINUATION– WHICH I KNOW YOU LIKEWISE STATED THT IT ' S NOT A NEED– BUT IN THE SENSE THAT I ASSUME THAT THERE'' S INADEQUATE SUPPORT FROM THIS SIDE TO FEELING COMFORTABLE ABOUT WHAT WILL CERTAINLY ACTUALLY BE THE FINAL COMPONENT AND YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE YOUR OPPORTUNITIES AND SEND IT ON TO THE COUNCIL BUT I THINK FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT IT MAY BE An ADVANTAGE TO CONSIDER MAYBE A CONTINUANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE COULD BE HIGHER QUALITY AND GRAYISH AREAS THAT MAY BE AREAS THAT COULD TURN UP BEYOND THIS PANEL HERE.THAT '
S MY REMARKS. >> > > MANY THANKS. VARIOUS OTHER COMMISSIONER THAT WISH TO TALK? OTHERWISE, COMMISSIONER BRINE. >> > > AMONG THINGS THAT REALLY STRIKES ME ABOUT THIS IS THAT YOU HAVE COUNTRY RESIDENTIAL ZONING IN THE LOCATION RIGHT CURRENTLY AND YOU'' RE GOING TO PUT A PDR 7 PLUS ALONGSIDE IT AND SOMETIMES; AND TO ME THAT'' S A HUGE DIVE IN THICKNESS, AND I THINK IT DOESN'' T FIT WELL WITH WHAT ' S AROUND. CURRENTLY, HAVING DENSITY, EVEN HAVING TOWNHOMES ON THIS WEBSITE, THAT, I CAN DEAL WITH, BUT I ASSUME YOU '
RE TOO DENSE FOR THE AREA.THAT ' S MY BIG PROBLEM. AND THERE ' S A BIG ITEM OF UNDEVELOPED COME DOWN ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THAT AND IF YOU PUT SOMETHING THIS THICK ON THIS WEBSITE, THEN I ANTICIPATE THAT THESE OTHER PIECES ON THE WEST SIDE OF GLENN ROAD WILL CERTAINLY MOST LIKELY ESTABLISH AT A HIGHER THICKNESS THAN COUNTRY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH, AGAIN, PUTS PRESSURE ON THE EXISTING COUNTRY RESIDENTIAL GROWTH THAT'' S ALREADY ON THE GROUND, AND I UH KNOW THAT YOU'' RE STRUCK WITH WHAT THE FLUM SAYS, AND TO ME, THE FLUM IN THIS LOCATION IS BAD, BUT, YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU CAN'' T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT NOW UNLESS YOU WISHED TO ASK FOR A MODIFICATION IN THE FLUM, BUT I SIMPLY, I BELIEVE SOMETHING THIS IS DENSE DOESN'' T FIT, AND THAT ' S GON NA BE MY MAIN FACTOR FOR BALLOT >> AGAINST IT. > > THANK YOU. EXIST OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK? IF NOT,'I ' D LIKE TO DELIGHT A MOVEMENT. > > MADAM CHAIR, WITH RESPECT TO Z1900018, GLENN ROADWAY TOWN RESIDENCE, I MOVE THAT WE SEND THIS ONWARD TO THE CITY BOARD WITH POSITIVE SUGGESTION AND YOU'' LL ALL NEED TO HELP ME WITH THIS, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE PROFFERS THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT ABOUT AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE FUND AND SCHOOL FUND, BUT REALIZING THAT THERE ARE OTHER DEDICATIONS IN THE EXPRESS ONE I'' LL NAME IS RELOCATING THE ACCESSIBILITY POINT NUMBER SIX EAST THAT THOSE WILL CERTAINLY BE UNSETTLED AND THE DEVELOPER WILL CERTAINLY WORK WITH TEAM IN BETWEEN CURRENTLY AND THE MOMENT THIS MOSTS LIKELY TO COUNCIL.
>> > > THERE ARE SOME UNREADY UHNESS. >> > > I BELIEVE CANDIDATE HAS An INQUIRY. I KNOW THIS IS NOT USUAL BUT I BELIEVE SHE SPLA An INQUIRY FOR YOU.– MAY HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. >> > > WE DO HAVE A CONCERN. WHEN IT COME TO THE CONTINUANCE ALTERNATIVE, IS IT FEASIBLE TO DEMAND A CONTINUATIONS OF ONE MONTH AS OPPOSED TO THE 60? IS THAT An OPPORTUNITY? >> > > ABSOLUTELY. >> > > REGARDING PERSONNEL–> > > APPROXIMATELY PERSONNEL >>. > > WE'DON ' T HAVE A WORRY. THIRTY DAYS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BUT WE NEED TO PROBABLY DISPOSE OF THE ACTIVITY ON THE FLOORING. >> > > WASN ' T SECONDED. >> >
> RIGHT.YOU COULD AMEND IT TOO. >> > > I DIDN ' T HEAR IT. SO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION– >> > > WELL'I ' M GOING THE WITHDRAW THE MOVEMENT BUT PRIOR TO I'ELECT IN SUPPORT OF HOLD-UP I ' D LIKE >> TO KNOW >> WHAT IT WAS FOR. > > OKAY. > > WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE 30 DAYS. IT MAY BE USEFUL FOR PERSONNEL TO UNDERSTAND IT'TOO. I HOPE IF IT ' S JUST FOR GAIN ACCESS TO 6, I DEPEND ON YOU GUS TO FUNCTION THAT OUT.IF IT ' S FOR OTHER THINGS, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT >> THEY ARE. > > CORRECT. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MILLER. HOWEVER SH THERE WERE SEVERAL POINTS TALKED ABOUT AND FEW POINTS I LISTENED TO EARLIER, 1 MONTH WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BUT WE WISH TO LISTEN TO A SUMMARY OF WHAT THEY'' RE REASONING. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MILLER. >> > > THANKS EXTREMELY MUCH. WITHIN THE 30 DAYS WE WISH TO CLARIFY LANGUAGE AND HOPEFULLY WORK WITH ADD DEDICATIONS THAT WOULD BE RELATED TO, ADDING ALLEY-LOADED WHAT PECENTAGE WHAB ALLEY-LOADED, WHAT WER PEN SAGE TEENAGE WOULD BE UNDER A PARTICULAR SQUARE VIDEO FOOTAGE. ENSURING WE HAVE CORRECT LANGUAGE REQUIRING OPTIMUM BLOCK SIZE TO MAKE IT WALKABLE/LIVABLE SPACE.ALSO THINKING ABOUT ADD COMMITMENTS REGA REGARDING SETBACKS TO MAKE FRONTAGE OF THE HOMES EVEN MORE AUKABLE, BUT WE REQUIREMENT TO DEAL WITH LANGUAGE FOR THAT TOO. RELOCATING ACCESS POINT. I BELIEVE THAT SUMS UP THE VARIOUS, THE AREAS THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH TRYING TO ADD COMMITMENTS FOR. > > INCLUDE MODIFICATION IN MIX OF TOWNHOMES [> INDISTINCT] > > MANY THANKS. BECAUSE IT ' S A PRETTY SHORT CYCLE, I ' LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW UH STAFF REACTS TO THEIR TIME REQUIRES ON THAT. AND IT WOULDN ' T BE THIRTY DAYS, IT WOULD BE TO THE DECEMBER MEET CHG MAY BE ONE MONTH'– > > SIMPLY OVER THREE WEEKS. > > CLARIFY FOR THE DOCUMENT, IN ONE MONTH IS >> ACHIEVABLE; HOWEVER, WE REALLY> ONLY HAVE REGARDING TEN WORKING DAYS TO WORK ALL THIS OUT PRIOR TO WE HAVE TO PACKAGE IT BACK UP TO FIND BACK NEXT MONTH.WANT TO MAKE SURE APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS THAT. > > WE THINK WE CAN MAE THAT.
> > WE ' RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU BUT TEN >> DAYS A HOSTILE AND WANTED TO SEE TO IT YOU KNEW THAT. > > COMMISSIONER MILLER HAS THE FLOORING BUT I WAS LOOKING TO BE RECOGNIZED WEN HE WAS FINISHED.> > > I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOVEMENT– > > QUESTION, I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT ' S– I WILL VOTE TO BE CLEAR, I LISTENED TO >> A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD POINTS IN HERE.NOT SURE IF'IT ' S ENOUGH BUT I UH THINK IT ' S ALWAYS BETTER
TO TAE THE TIME TO OBTAIN THE INFORMATION IN WRITING AND GIVE United States AN CHANCE TO APPEARANCE AT YOUR MANY CALCULATED FULL OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOMETHING IN FRONT OF US. I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I ASSUME IT WAS VERY HANDY DEAL. I WILL CERTAINLY ELECT THE 30-DAY CONTINUANCE WHEN THE MOTION IS MADE. > > LET ME ASK ONE ADDITIONAL CONCERN OF> THE APPLICANT. I INTEND TO BE SURE THAT OF THE POINTS THAT ' S NOT BEING THOUGHT ABOUT IS TOWN HOMES AND SINGLE HOUSEHOLD HOMES; SO IT ' S STILL STRAIGHT TOWNHOMES? THANK YOU. CHAIR RECOGNIZES COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. > > BEFORE COMMISSIONER MILLER MAKES MOTION, ON THE OCCASION THAT THE APPLICANT ATTEMPTS TO MAKE THIS NEXT CYCLE TURN-AROUND BUT THEY CAN ' T, WHAT TAKES PLACE IF THEY CONTAINER ' T MEET? > >'SO THE COMPENSATION HYPOTHETICALLY WOULD CONTINUE THIS 30 DAYS IF YOU ELECT TO ACCOMPLISH THAT AND IT PASSES T PROCEED FOR 30 DAYS. THAT ' S A DATE-SPECIFIC. WE HAVE TO RETURN DUE TO THE FACT THAT THAT'' S A DATE-SPECIFIC HEARING, WE HAVE'TO OPEN THE HEARING BACK UP.AT THAT FACTOR, THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO
EXPLAIN UH WHAT THEY DID ACCOMPLISH OR DID NOT ACCOMPLISH BACK THEN. > > MAYBE PROCEEDED AGAIN SINCE WE ' D STILL BE> WITHIN 90 DAYS. > > WE WOULD NEED TO OPEN IT AURLS OF WHAT THEY ' VE ACCOMPLISHED >>. > > THANK YOU. IF I COULD ASK QUESTION, > >. > > YES. > > SORRY. >> IS IT CONTINUING FOR ONE MONTH OR JUST TO THE NEXT DAY >>? > > TO >> THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. A DATE-SPECIFIC. > > SECOND TUESDAY IN> DECEMBER. DECEMBER 10TH. > > MAAM CHAIR, SHALL I MAKE THE MOVEMENT? IF SHE– WAITING FOR APPLICANT TO LET United States KNOW YOU ' RE DONE, > > LET ' S SEE. > > [LOW AUDIO] > > THANK YOU.THENALLY ENTERTAIN A MOVEMENT. > > MADAM CHAIR, I RELOCATE THAT WE CONTINUE THIS INSTANCE L TILL THE PAYMENT ' S REGULARLY-SCHEDULED CONFERENCE IN DECEMBER, >> WHICH I BELIEVE WILL CERTAINLY BE THE SECONDLY TUESDAY OF DECEMBER. POISE, CANISTER YOU TELL ME'WHAT THE REAL DATE IS? > > 10th. > > 10th DAY OF DECEMBER. HAVING MADE THAT MOVEMENT AND BEFORE ANY PERSON SECONDS IT, I WILL CERTAINLY CLAIM THAT I WISH TO OFFER THESE CANDIDATES >> EVERY >> CHANCE TO ENCOURAGE THE COMPENSATION MEMBERS THAT THE PROJECT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO ELECT; HOWEVER, VI TO AGREE WITH MR. BUZBY, THERE ARE SOME MATTERS ESPECIALLY ABOUT SYSTEM MIX THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND MAY BE DISAPPOINTED IF IT ' S NOT CONSISTED OF IN THE BUNDLE. > > O.K.. ACTIVITY BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > SECONDLY? > > SECOND. > > SECONDLY BY COMMISSIONER BRINE THAT WE HAVE A ONE-CYCLE CONTINUATION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 10TH, ON THE GLENN ROAD TOWN HOME PROJECT >>.
>> ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOVEMENT, LET ' S HAVE A RLL CALL, PLEASE. [ROLL TELEPHONE CALL VOTE] > > I NEED CLEARNESS, AM I VOTING FOR CONTINUANCE? INDEED, I ' M VOTING YES'. > > [ROLL TELEPHONE CALL BALLOT PROCEEDED] > > PASSES 11-2. THANKS. > > THANK YOU. NEXT PRODUCT WE HAVE:'PUBLIC HEARINGS >>: TEXT MODIFICATIONS TO THE UNIFIED ADVANCEMENT REGULATION: TC1900002 OUTSIDE ILLUMINATION. >> STAFF RECORD, PLEASE. THANK YOU. > > CARL KOLOSNA, FIRST TIME BELOW WITH INTENDING DEPARTMENT; PLEASE BEHAVE. > > WE PLEDGE TO BE NICE. > > JCCPC DID SAME THING FOR ME, THANK YOU >>. THIS IS A TEXT CHANGE TC1900002, PRIVATELY-INITIATED MESSAGE MODIFICATION TO >> CHANGE UDO. >> ARTICLE 7.4.2 B. 2 OF THE UDO CONTROLLED THE APPLICABILITY OF THE OUTSIDE ILLUMINATION SECTION AND WRITE-UP 7.4 AS A WHOLE IS WHAT CONTROLS EXTERIOR LIGHTING SO IT DOES SO BY SETTING REQUIREMENTS FOR HEIGHTS THAT LIGHTING CONTAINER BE ALO AND FOOT-CANDLE CONSTRAINT AT CERTAIN COMPONENTS OF THE WEBSITE. WHAT PRESENTLY WITH THE STATUTE SHORT ARTICLE 7.4.2 BE.2 OUTSIDE LIGHTING THAT IS USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES IS AT LEAST 100 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL MAKES USE OF AND IS NOT ILLUMINATED DURING LATE HOURS DEFINED AS 1:00 A.M.-8:00 A.M. MONDAY SATURDAY AND MIDNIGHT ALL OTHER DAYS. , if IT MEETS CRITERIA IT ' S EXEMPT OF THE REST OF 7.4.. WHAT THIS CHANGE WOULD BE WOULD BE ALLOW LIGHTS THAT RUNS DURING
LATE HOURS TO MAINTAIN EXCEPTION AND KEEP 100 FOOT SPLITTING UP AND ENTERTAINMENT'MAKE USE OF BUT IT WOULD MAY TO BE INSTANCE FLD HOURS OF PROCEDURE PROVIDED THAT A SMALL UNIQUE USAGE PERMIT WAS CONCERNS. PER INTRIGUE TAX LANGUAGE PROVIDED TO United States BY CANDIDATE, THE REVIEW STANDARD RELATED TO THAT MINOR UNIQUE USAGE LICENSE INCLUDES THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR LOOKING AT LIGHTING.SO, UM, THAT ' S BASICALLY THE AMENDMENT IN A SHORT NUTSHELL. THIS MOSTED LIKELY TO JCCPC ON OCTOBER 2ND, NO MAJOR COMMENTS FOR I THEN AND STAFF SUGGESTS APPROVAL. BELOW FOR CONCERNS AND I BELIEVE APPLICANT IS BELOW AS WELL AND WE ' LL
HAVE COMMENTS'. > > CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, HAS ANY INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? APPARENTLY, THERE IS. THANKS. > > SORRY, THAT ' S A COMPONENT WHERE I DON ' T KNOW WHAT ' S GOING ON YET. > > I DO'HAVE 3 PEOPLE AUTHORIZED UP T SPEAK. TODD WALLDO, ERIC JACKSON, KEITH BURNS. PLEASE MENTION YOUR NME AND ADDRESS. >> > > KEITH BURNS, LONG-TIME DURHAM HOMEOWNER', MEBER OF THE DURHAM BAR BUT UNFORTUNATELY WORKPLACE IN RALEIGH. THANKS ALL FOR HAVING United States TONIGHT. THANKS CARL AND WELCOME TO YOUR FIRST CONFERENCE. WE HAVE WORKED DIFFICULT WITH TEAM TO OBTAIN TO >> SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US COULD LIVE WITH. THIS BEGAN THAT REQUESTED A BLANK DPOEFRPGS PERMIT LATE HOUR LIGHTS IN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.STAFF ENDED THAT WAS TOO BROAD AND RETURNED TO US FOR ADJUSTMENTS. WE SUBMITTED SEEKS SIMPLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY THROUGH A SPECIAL USE AUTHORIZATION PROCESS FOR LATE-HOUR LIGHTS SO LONG AS IT CONNECTS TO SPORTING AND OTHER OUTDOOR TASKS. SO, I ' M REALLY HERE AS THE LAWYER TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TEXT OF THIS. I KNOW YOU ' RE ALL QUESTIONING WHY WE WOULD BE REQUESTING FOR THIS AND A I RECOGNIZE THAT ' S PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING WE WISH TO GET AS WELL FAR INTO BECAUSE THIS REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE ABILITY RETURN AND REQUEST FOR PERMISSION LATER THROUGH'THAT SPECIAL USAGE PERMIT BUT WE ARE GOING TO SOLUTION THE INQUIRY WHY AT THE DANGER OF GOING DOWN A BUNNY HOL.ERIC WILL CERTAINLY TURN UP, HE ' S TE PROGRAMMER FR SITE THAT'GOES TO THE JUNCTION OF WEB PAGE ROADWAY AND I 40. SO OUT EVEN MORE IN THE PARK AREA AND CERTAINLY HAS THE BARRIERS IN POSITION, NOT MUCH RESIDENTIAL ANYWHERE AROUND IT, AND HE ' LL SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THAT AND AFTER THAT TODD WILL SHOW UP, THE MAJOR INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS THE NEED NOR EXTERIOR ILLUMINATION AND HE'' LL TALK TO THE FACTOR WE REQUIREMENT LATE OUT DOOR ILLUMINATION. ERIC. > > ERIC JACKSON, REALTYLINK. REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER FOR THE BUILDING. REALLY HERE MORE FOR SUPPORT. WE HAVE An OCCUPANT, TODD, WHO ' LL SPEAK BELOW IN A LITTLE BIT BUT AS ELUDED TO, RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SITUATED AT I 40 AND WEB PAGE ROAD, BOUNDED BY THE NEUSE RIVER AND INTERSTATE. NOT A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL AROUND. I MEAN, THAT ' S VIRTUALLY WHERE WE STAND. ALLOW TODD TURN UP AND TALK EVEN MORE TO THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT WE ' RE ASKING FOR. > > EXCELLENT NIGHT. TODD WALLDO WITH TOP GOLF, 8750 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESS WAY, DALLAS, TEXAS, EXCITED TO BRING FIRST TOP GOLF TO RESEARCH STUDY CRY TRIANGLE AND DURHAM.I DON ' T KNOW IF EVERYONE ' S FAMILIAR BUT IT ' S A PREMIER GOLF HOME ENTERTAINMENT VENUE WITH BEST IN CLASS OPERATION PROPOSING TO BRING NEW PRINCIPLE TO DURHAM, MORE FAMILY-FRIENDLY> PRINCIPLE COMPLETE WITH A FULL SOLUTION RESTAURANT AND BAR, GOLF DRIVING ARRAY, MINIATURE GOLF AND OTHER OUTSIDE VIDEO GAMING TASKS. THIS TEXT MODIFICATION IS
CRITICAL TO US BASED ON THE LATE HOURS OF THE PROCEDURE SO IT WOULD EVEN MORE ACCOMPANY THE GAMING ALTERNATIVES AVAILABLE AT THE PLACES AND ALSO THE MAINTENANCE OPERATION ARES THAT WOULD OCCUR AFTER HOURS AT THE LOCATION ALSO. THIS IS SAY SPELL A 64-ACRE MIXED USE DWENLT. WE ' VE BEEN LOOKING IN DURHAM FOR QUITE TIME AND FEEL THIS IS THE BS SUITABLE FOR United States. SITE HAS A GREAT DEAL OF CHALLENGES, A GREAT DEAL OF RESTRICTIONS. SIGNIFICANTLY AN ENGINEERING EXERCISE WE ' RE GOING THROUGH NOW WITH ATTEMPTING TO LAYOUT THE SITE TO SUCCESSFULLY SUIT NO ONLY TOP GOLF VENUE BUT THE OTHER LESSEES AND USERS THAT WOULD BELONG TO THIS. EXTREMELY CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF THE JOB AND REALLY HOPING THAT FOR YOUR DESIRABLE ASSISTANCE TONIGHT AND AVAILABLE TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. > > THANKS. WE STILL HAVE ONE OTHER– THAT ' S ALL 3. OKAY. THANKS. > > MADAM CHAIR IF I COULD 1 OR 2 THINGS IN CONCLUSION. LEADING GOLF OPERATES INTO THE EVENING SLIEK MANY AMUSEMENT VENUES AND AFTER THSE RGULAR NIGHT HOURS ARE WRAPPED UP AT MIDNIGHT, 2:00 A.M., THEY THEN NEED TO SEND OUT THEIR MAINTENANCE FACILITIES OUT INTO THE FIELD TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS>> SO THEY ' RE READY TO OPERATE THE NEXT DAY.'IT ' S THAT MAINTENANCE OPERATION> THAT TRULY DETERMINES THAT THERE BEING B AN CAPABILITY TO KEEP LIGHTING ON THERE TO CLEAN UP AND PREPARE AFTER COMPLETION OF IT.IT ' S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO TOP GOLF ' S PROCEDURE TO HAVE THESE ADDITIONAL HOURS. OTHER THINGS TO ANXIETY AGAIN IS WE ' RE NOT ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR ANY SPECIFIC USAGE OR ANY PARTICULAR WEBSITE TONIGHT, WE ' RE MERELY ASKING FOR A MESSAGE MODIFICATION THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO FIND BACK AND VERIFY ABOUT SPECIAL USAGE LICENSE THAT THIS REALLY IS A GOOD IDEA FOR THESE HOURS AT THIS SITE. SO AGAIN, IT ' S SIMPLY TONITE SIMPLY ABOUT'THE ABILITY AHEAD BACK'AND MAKE FORMAL REQUEST LATER. > > MANY THANKS. EXIST OTHER PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK WITH THIS CONCERN DURING THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING? OTHERWISE, I ' M GOING CLOSE THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING AND GIVE COMMISSIONERS AN CHANCE TO ASK CONCERNS. START TO MY LEFT; ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS? CHAIR RECOGNIZES TOM MILLER. > > THANK YOU. SO IF I UH CONTAINER ASK MR.WALLDO TO FIND BACK UP. WHEN WE DISCUSS BONUS HOURS, HOW LOTS OF? > > COMMON HOURS OF OPERATION FOR TOP GOLF >> VENUE IS SUNDAY-THURSDAY 8:00 A.M. TO MIDNIGHT. WE HAVE PROLONGED HOURS ON THE WEEKEND BREAK, FRIDAY AND SATURDAYS PROLONGED TO 2:00 A.M. AFTER THE CLOSE OF COMPANY, THERE ARE SOME UPKEEP PROCEDURE AS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THE OUTFIELD AREA, THE PLAYING SURFACE AREA, THAT ARE RELATED TO COLLECTING THE GOLF SPHERES FROM THE DAY, REPAIRING SOME OF THE ELECTRONIC DEVICES WITHIN OUTFIELD–
TWO TO THREE HOURS. > > IF YOU NEAR AT TWO YOU ' D WANT TO BE OPEN TO> 4. > > CLOSED AT 2, LIGHTING TO STAY ON EXTRA 2 TO 3 HOURS AFTER CLSE. > > UNTIL SUN COMES UP NEXT DAY. > > THIS MOMENT OF YEAR, OBVIOUSLY, IT OBTAINS DARK EARLIER AND HOURS A LITTLE LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH DAYTIME SAVINGS TIME FINISHES, SO, YES. LIGHTS WITH OUR POSITIONINGS OF THIS BUILDING WOULD FACE AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL. PRETTY SEPARATED WITH A GREAT DEAL OF VEGETATION THAT WOULD REMAIN AROUND THE BOUNDARY SO WE FEEL THERE ' S LIT TOLL NO INFLUENCE TO ANY OFF-SITE USERS
>> OR ROADWAYS OR THINGS OF THAT SORT. > > THANKS. I HAVE COUPLE PROBLEMS WITH FIRST WITH THE METHOD THIS IS DRAFTED.
> > I DO WANT TO CLAIFY. > > COMMISSIONER BAKER. > > I WAS GOING TO MAKE An ACTIVITY– > > QUESTION, I VALUE THAT. > > THANK YOU. > > 10th DAY OF DECEMBER.ONE, I OBSERVE THAT– AND THIS IS A TROUBLE THAT EXISTS THESE DAYS WITH THE EXISTING MOTIF. I'' M LOOKING AT THE DRAFT HERE. WE HAVE REGULATIONS IN A SECTION THAT'' S RECOGNIZED AS APPLICABILITY. NORMALLY WHEN IT'' S SIMPLY A FLOOR COVERING ISSUE OF CODE WRITING WHEN IDENTIFY APPLICABILITY YOU RESTRICT WHAT'' S IN IT TO THE SCOPE OF APPLICABILITY AND'DON ' T PUT BELOW NAHTIVE REGULATIONS IN THERE. WE ALREADY HAVE SUB NAHTIVE GUIDELINES IN THERE BECAUSE WE RESTRICTION THE HOURS OF OPERATION.SUBSTANTIVE RULES.
WHAT I DON ' T UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE, BELOW'' S THE POLICY AND HERE ARE THE EXCEPTIONS. THE EXCEPTIONS ARE, UH, IN THE UC 2 OR MIDTOWN TIER. W THE EXTRA LANGUAGE AND AS AUTHORIZED BY SMALL UNIQUE USAGE AUTHORIZATION. THEN WE SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THE CRITERIA WOULD BE FOR THE MINOR UNIQUE USE AUTHORIZATION. UM, I UH WISH THERE WAS A METHOD TO RECODIFY THE ENTIRE SECTION ONE THAT TREATED THE APPLICABILITY CONCERN, AND LIKEWISE STRUCTURED THE THING EVEN MORE CLEARLY REGARDING THE BASE REGULATION, THE EXCEPTIONS, AND AFTERWARDS THE USAGE LICENSE. RATHER THAN TO RUN IT ALL TOGETHER IN A PARTICULARLY LONG SENTENCE. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. MY OTHER PROBLEM WITH IT IS, IS USAGE AUTHORIZATION NEEDS TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF OUTWARD CEILING IN IT.An USE PERMIT THAT'' S WIDE OPEN, IN OTHER WORDS, UNLIMITED HOURS THAT ' S NOT An USAGE LICENSE, THAT ' S NOT WHAT STATUTE HAS IN MND FOR USE ALLOWS. IN OTHER WORDS, THE WAY An USE PERMIT WORKS IS RIGHT HERE ' S THE BASE ZONING, IN THE AREA YOU MAY DO ABCD ADVERTISEMENT WITH USAGE PERMIT IF YOU SATISFY THESE STANDARDS YOU CA HAVE E TOO. THE PROBLEM HERE IS, IS THAT E IS OPEN-ENDED, AND SO IT ' S NOT AN E, IT ' S LIKE A DIFFERENCE AND THAT ' S A DIFFERENT PROCEDURE WITH VARIOUS STANDARDS, AND I BELIEVE WE ' RE COMBINING THE DIFFERENCE TECHNIQUE WITH THE USE STANDARD. An USAGE LICENSE REQUIRES TO HAVE A CAP ON IT.A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL HOURS OR THREE ADDED HOURS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AFTER THAT IT'' S REACHED BE GOT TO HAVE HARD CEILING ON IT. IF IT DOESN'' T HAVE ONE, IN MY OPINION IT ' S NOT QUALIFIED UNDER NORTH CAROLINA STATUTES. THOSE ARE MY TECHNOLOGICAL OBJECTIONS TO THE THING, BUT I WILL CERTAINLY STATE THAT I HAVE A POLICY OBJECTION WHICH'' S CHANGING THE ENTIRE UDO FOR EVERYONE FOR ONE PARTICULAR USAGE ON ONE SPECIFIC PIECE OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, AND THAT ' S WHAT WE ' RE
BEING ASKED TO DO.NOW, THE, UH-UH, APPLICANTS LEGAL COUNCIL STATED YES WE'' RE ASKING TO MODIFICATION IT GENERALLY WHICH'' S TRUE BUT THE CANDIDATE SEES IT AS THIS SET ITEM OF PROPERTY AND I WEAR'' T LIKE TRANSFORMING ZONING FOR EVERYBODY IN ORDER TO SUIT A SPECIFIC USE, AND I WEAR'' T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST TOP GOLF OR ANY ONE OF THOSE VARIOUS OTHER DETAILS IT DOES, BUT I DO NOT LIKE TO CLANG CHANGE THE REGULATIONS FROM ROUGEMONT TO C CHATHAM AREA. IF WE ARE GOING TO REND THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW SOMEBODY THROUGH AFTER THAT I WANT IT TO BE THE SMALLEST POSSIBLE RIP. SO I'' M GOING TO ELECT NO AGAINST THIS ON THE WIDE POLICY PROBLEM EVEN IF WE WERE TO FIX WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE TECHNICAL TROUBLES. >> > > THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MILLER. ARE THERE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO SPEAK? COMMISSIONER SALT WATER AND AFTER THAT COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. >> > > COMMISSIONER MILLER HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY DISCUSSED MY PROBLEM AND HE EXPRESSED IT MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN I POSSIBLY COULD, BUT IT APPEARS TO ME THAT WHAT WE'' RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BELOW IS PARTICULARLY FOR ONE ITEM OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, BUT BY PRODUCTION THIS MODIFICATION, WE AFFECT OR MAKE IT FEASIBLE TO AFFECT MULTIPLE PLACES ELSEWHERE, AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MILLER, I WEAR'' T PARTICULARLY UH LIKE DOING THAT.
>> > > COMMISSIONER AL-TURK >>. > > MANY THANKS. IF YOU WILL, THIS IS CONCERN TO COMMISSIONER MILLER. SO YOU STATE ON FROM A POLICY VIEWPOINT YOU DON'' T SIMILAR TO THIS, SO WHAT IS A DIFFERENT TECHNIQUE >>,'I PRESUMES? > > I ' M UNCERTAIN THERE IS A DIFFERENT METHOD AND THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION THAT I WOULD APPROVE OF. WE ' RE GOING WITH A PROCESS SINCE ' S NOT BEEN ALERTED BUT WE ' RE CREATING EXEMPTION FOR ALL A KINDS OF RECREATIONAL MAKES USE OF THAT ARE COULD BE APPLIED ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS AROUND THAT WANT TO SLEEP AT NIGHT IN THEIR RESIDENCE THAT WEAR'' T KNOW WE ' RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THEY DIDN ' T OBTAIN A NOTICE, BUT THERE ARE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR THAT IS MAY WISH TO ESTABLISH LIGHT POLES AND RUN LIGHTING LATE AT EVENING FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE A PROCESS AVAILABLE TO THEM THAT AS An OUTCOME OF THIS; SIMPLY PUT T PROCEDURE WE'' RE CREATING ISN ' T GOING TO SIMPLY'AID LEADING GOLF, IT ' S GOING TO BE EVERYBODY ELSE. AND I RECOGNIZE WE ' VE GOT THINGS BUILT IN THE CODE, BUT THEY ' RE NOT PARTICULARLY IN MY OPINION– IF YOU HAD RESIDENCE BESIDE A REC WRAGSAL FACILITY THAT HAD A LIGHT POLE 100 FEET AWAY I WOULD WANT THE LIGHTS TO BE OFF BETWEEN 12 AND 8.100 FEET. MY WHOLE LOT IS 110 FEET WIDE. IT'' S NO RANGE IN ANY WAY, AND I THINK WE– EVEN IF WE WERE GOING TO CONSIDER THIS, I WOULD LIKE THE HAVE An EVEN MORE ROBUST PROCEDURE IT WENT TO JCCPC, I'' M SURE ALL THE PROPER NOTIFICATIONS WERE PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER, AND NOW AT PREPARING AND CURRENTLY OFF TO BOARD OF REGION COMMISSIONERS AND THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GOING TO BE MANY IMPACTED BY THIS HAVE NO CONCEPT THIS IS EVEN BEING SPOKEN ABOUT. JUST DON'' T THINK THIS IS THE PROPER WAY OF DOING IT. IF YOU COULD INVOLVE US AND DEMONSTRATE THAT OUR CURRENT STANDARDS FOR LIGHTING FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES WERE CREATING PROBLEMS ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR SECONDARY SCHOOL AND INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAMINGS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, THEN WE'' D REQUIRED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE GUIDELINES, BU THAT'' S NOT WHAT ' S HAPPENING RIGHT HERE. REGULATIONS HAVE BEEN IN POSITION FOR VERY LONG TIME. CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE USER WHO'' S A LESSEE OF AN OWNER ON ONE ITEM OF BUILDING A THEY AIMED OUT, TO BE A LONG MEANS FAR FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL, FROM WHAT I WOULD THINK WOULD BE THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS CONCERN, BUT THAT'' S NOT WHAT WE'' RE BEING ASKED TO DO.WE ' RE NOT LOOKING AT ONE PARCEL, WE ' RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE REGION, , SO, I JUST PUT ON ' T THINK THIS IS THE MEANS TO GO. I INDICATE, AND THERE MAY BE ANOTHER PERSON METHOD TO GO, BUT I TIN ' T CRAFT IT SITTING BELOW. THERE MAY BE A METHOD TO SOLUTION THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS– I THINK YOU COULD SOLVE TECHNOLOGICAL TROUBLE BUT PHRASE ADDING TWO ADDED HOURS TO THE LIMITED HOURS BELOW BUT IT MAY NOT SATISFY TOP GOLF BECAUSE THEY MAY NEED 3 HOURS.THEY REQUIRED AN
ADDITIONAL HOUR ON SATURDAY EVENING WHICH IS BEYOND BECAUSE THEY WISH TO GO TO 2 AND WE QUIT AT A ONE AND AFTER THAT 2 TO 3 HOURS AFER THAT. I SUGGEST, IS THERE A WAY TO SOLUTION THIS THAT I MIGHT CHOOSE IT? CLEVER INDIVIDUAL CONTAINER PROBABLY DO THAT. I'' M NOT THAT PERSON TONIGHT. > >> THANKS. THAT'' S HEPFUL. >> > > COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.
>> > > THANK YOU. SINCE I WAS WANTING TO OBTAIN QUALITY ON WHAT SHOULD I REALLY BE FOCUSING ON, of COURSE I WAS HOPING THIS CONVERSATION PLAYED OUT. THE ONE POINT THAT ENTERED YOUR MIND WAS OFF OF COMMISSIONER MILLER'' S COMMENTS IS THAT WHAT'' S BEING WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED WIH THIS WHAT'' S BEING ASKED IS THAT SOMEBODY COULD COME NEAR OR IN YOUR AREA WITH SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN THERE BEFORE AND THAT A PERSON WHO INTENDS TO GO TO SLEEP AT MIDNIGHT WITH NO LIGHTS BEGINNING SUDDENLY THEY HAVE ANY VENTURE OR PERSON IF THERE IS RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES– IT DIDN'' T SAY SOMETHING ZONED AS RECREATIONAL– THIS PERTAINS TO AREA COMMUNITY OR WHAT NOT AND THEY'' RE LIKE HOW ' D THIS WE and happen ' VE ALREADY SAID THAT THIS IS CURRENTLY THE NEW CRITERION AND THEY HAD NO INPUT INTO RECOGNIZING WHT THE EFFECTS IS IS. I CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER MILLER ' S REASONING IN THINKING, LIKE, WELL THIS HAS BROADER RAMIFICATIONS.I WAS CURIOUS WHEN I WAS ARE REREADING THIS, IT WAS LIKE WHAT DID YOU CONSIDER THE CANDIDATE TAKING THE METHOD OF SIMPLY LOOKING TO GET THE EXISTING LANGUAGE JUST TO ADD ANOTHER PAIR ADD HOUR EXTEND HOURS WITHIN HOW IT'' S POSITIONED CURRENTLY VERSUS THIS MORE WHERE IT'' S ESSENTIALLY BROADER APPLICATION OF THE CHANGE. >> > > THANKS >>. > > AND IF THEY EVEN ALLOW. >> > > SIMPLY TO BE CLEAR THIS CRITERION WOULD ALLOW THEM TO LOOK FOR A SPECIAL USAGE PERMIT TO INCREASE HOURS WHICH WOULD NEED PUBLIC HEARING FOR EACH AND EVERY INSTANCE. THEY COULD REQUEST THAT AT A PUBLIC HEARING if THIS WERE AUTHORIZED. IT WOULD NOT PERMIT EVERY PERSON IN COUNTY TO INCREASE THE TIME THEY'' RE ILLUMINATION IS ON BY. >
>> > THANK YOU. >> > > COMMISSIONER SANTIAGO >>. > > THANK YOU. I JUST WISHED TO CLARIFY. THIS TEXT CHANGE IS THE OUTRIGHT ONLY WAY FOR THIS APPLICANT TO ACHIEVE WHAT THEY WISH TO DO LONG-TERM? OR EXISTS ANY OTHER >> PROCEDURE? > > THEE ' S PROBABLY GREAT DEALS OF DIFFERENT MEANS IT COULD HAPPEN. I WILL CERTAINLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MILLER THT DON'' T KNOW WHAT THAT GOES TO THIS PARTICULAR OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >> > > MANY THANKS. COMMISSIONER DURKIN. >> > > FOR CLARIFICATION, IF THIS WAS ENACTED AND THEY SOUGHT MINOR UNIQUE USE AUTHORIZATION THEN THEIR NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS WOULD BE SAW AND HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO FIND OUT AND SPEAK AGAINST IT OR WHAT– CONTAINER YOU ELABORATE ON THE PROCEDURE BECAUSE I'' M PROBABLY NOT THE JUST ONE THAT DOESN'' T KNOW THE PROCESS. >> > A MINOR SPECIAL USAGE LICENSE IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING WHERE EVIDENCE IS REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED BY CANDIDATE AND ANY OPPONENTS.P MINOR UNIQUE USAGE PERMIT HEARD BY BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WHICH IS RESIDENT BODY MUCH LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU SIT ON, AND THERE ARE THEY DO ALL THEIR HEARINGS ARE PUBLIC AND THERE ' S NOTIFICATION OFFERED AND THE TYPICALLY IT ' S 300 FEET, I BELIEVE. THEREFORE FOR EACH SITUATION WHERE THE LIGHTING THE CANDIDATE WAS REQUESTING THIS EXTENDED ILLUMINATION CONNECTION THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING HELD. > > WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PARTICIPANT OF THIS PROCESS >> WELL. MUST KNOWN – I DON ' T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER LOWE BECAUSE YOU ' RE ON BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD– SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT BUT I RECOGNIZE YOU WERE ON THAT BOARD BEFORE. > > QUITE ALREADY. >> NO, I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD WHAT HE CLAIMED A MIN AGO, WE HAVE THAT QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD OF CHANGE BOARD THAT MUST GO THERE AND BE ELECTED UPON. >> > > DO YOU FIND THE GENERAL PUBLIC INVOLVES THOSE MEETINGS IN THE SAME RATE THEY PERTAIN TO OURS? >> >
> ABSOLUTELY.PUBLIC SHOWS UP AT THAT MEETINGS. >> > > THANK YOU >>. > > COMMISSIONER MILLER >>. >'> IT ' S DIFFERENT. THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE. BECAUSE WE ' RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE LEGISLATION, you TIN COE PROVIDE YOUR VIEWPOINT. EVERYTHING THAT WE DO BELOW, THE BOARD O ADJUSTMENT SINCE IS JUDICIAL BODY. OF ALL, NOT EVERYBODY CONTAINER COME AND TALK. STANDING REGULATIONS OF NORTH CAROLINA ARE REGULARLY MOVING AS COURT DEGREES BOIL DOWN AND IT CAN BE CHALLENGING AND I'' VE HEARD INDIVIDUALS COMPLAIN JUST RECENTLY THEY'' VE BEEN LOCK OUT BY APPLICANTS LAWYERS BY EXPRESSION PEOPLE DON'' T HAVE STANDING. THEN YOU HAVE TO PRESENT EVIDENCE, CANISTER'' T PROVIDE AN POINT OF VIEW, YOU NEED TO GIVE PROOF RELATING TO THE STANDARDS. THIS IS SOMETIMES HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAN SIMPLY PERTAINING TO THE MIKE AND CLAIMING I UH LIVE NEXT DOOR AND I WEAR'' T WANT THESE LIGHTS TO BE ON. >> >'> I ' M NOT SAYING IT WAS THE VERY BEST ALTERNATIVE. I ' M JUST ASKING INQUIRIES. > > BUT IT IS THE METHOD THIS WOULD BE DONE AND THERE ARE LOTS OF TIMES WHEN I BELIEVE A SPECIAL USAGE PERMIT IS A FANTASTIC MEANS TO MANAGE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES AND STILL HAVE PUBLIC, MEANINGFUL PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.I ' M NOT CRITICIZING SPECIAL USAGE METHOD. I DO THINK THE MEANS THE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN REQUIRES TO BE VARIOUS EVEN TO ACCOMPLISH IT, BUT [INDISCERNIBLE] OVER BIG MODIFICATION FOR ONE PERSON. >> > > COMMISSIONER AL-TURK >>. > > I UH SIMPLY INTENDED TO CLARIFY THE PROCESS ONCE MORE. IF SOMEBODY ASKS FOR SMALL SPECIAL USAGE LICENSE, EVERYONE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THIS BUILDING WOULD GET A NOTIFICATION THAT THERE'' S GOING TO BE A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS CONFERENCE, RIGHT? >> >
>> > CORRECT. > > THEY COULD COME BUT AS COMMISSIONER MILLER DIRECTING OUT THEY DON'' T ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK; IS THAT CORRECT? >> > > THEY ALL HAVE POSSIBILITY TO SPEAK. WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE STANDING IF IT WERE CHALLENGED IN COURT IS A MORE COMPLICATED PROBLEM WHERE AS AN EXAMPLE PANNING COMMISSION ANY PERSON THAT JOINS TO SPEAK HAS STANDING TO GIVE YOUR THEIR POINT OF VIEW. >> > > WE HAVE A MAJOR SPECIAL USE AUTHORIZATION PROCESS? >> > > WE DO. IT ' S THE EXACT SAME PROCEDURE WITH THE EXACT SAME FINDINGS, IT SIMPLY GOES TO THE REGULATING BODY AS OPPOSED TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
>> > > CITY COUNCIL SITTING IS BOARD OF CHANGE. >> > > AND EXISTS A REASON YOU MOSTED LIKELY TO MINOR AS OPPOSED TO MAJOR? >> > > RESERVE ONLY THE JUICIEST VERY BIG STUFF FOR MAJOR SPECIAL USAGE ALLOWS. >> > > OKAY. >> THANKS. > > IS THAT A LAWFUL TERM? > >> YES, IT IS. >> > > COMMISSIONER SALT WATER >>. > > I HAVE A CONCERN FOR THE CANDIDATE. DOES THE'DEELOMENT THAT YOU ' RE TALKING ABOUT STILL NEED TO GO THROUGH A REZONING? >> > > THERE IS N REZONING REQUIRED THERE, BUT IT WILL CERTAINLY BE An UNIQUE USAGE AUTHORIZATION APPLICATION PROCEDURES THEREFORE THERE'' S A SIGNIFICANT QUANTITY OF PRIVILEGE WORK TO BE DONE ON THE GROWTH AS A WHOLE. >> > > YOU ' VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.DON ' T REQUIRED ANY
REZONING. THAT ' S ALL. > > CERTAINLY. >> JUST TO AMONG THE FACTORS THAT MR. MILLER RAISED, WE'' RE HAPPY TO APPROVE A THEE-HOUR CAP ON THE EXPANSION THAT MAY BE APPROVED WITH A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEDURE. THE VARIOUS OTHER FACTOR I'' D MAKE WHILE I OBTAINED THE MIKE FOR A SECOND WAS GOES TO QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING THE BURDEN GETS ON THE CANDIDATE TO VERIFY THIS IS APPROPRIATE. >> > > THANK YOU >>. > > IF I MAY UH JUST ADD– >> > > CHAIR RECOGNIZES COMMISSIONER LOWE. >> > > THANKS. SORRY. ON THE BOARD OF ADJUST MS CONCERN SHOWED UP WOULD EVERY PERSON BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. ON BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS THEY ARE. IT WAS JOIN SIMILAR TO WE DO BELOW AND THEIR NAME GETS ON A LINEUP AND CHAIR WOULD ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK, EVERYONE THAT SIGNS TO SPEAK. >> > > THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO TALK? COMMISSIONER BUZBY. >> > > I WOULD SIMPLY LIKE THE SAY, I VALUE THE'PROFFER FOR THE I DON ' T KNOW EVEN KNOW IF THAT ' S A PROFFER, NECESSARILY, BUT THE CONVENIENCE WITH THE'3 HOURS, I ' M PREPARATION TO ELECT IT NO MATTER, I RECOGNIZE THE DISAGREEMENTS AND I COMPREHEND THAT DISCOMFORT OF BUT ALSO KNOW ONE HAS GIVEN BETTER ALTERNATIVE SO I DO PLAN TO ELECT IT AS-IS.
AS IT RELOCATES ONWARD I THINK THE THREE-HOUR LANGUAGE WOULD BE OPERATED IN AND IT OFFERS CLEARNESS AS WE PROGRESS BUT I'' M NOT BELIEVING WE REQUIREMENT TO MAKE A MOVEMENT TONIGHT TO INCLUDE THAT SINCE I BELIEVE THE PERSONNEL REQUIRES A LITTLE TIME TO FUNCTION CANDIDATE AS IT RELOCATES AHEAD. THAT'' S MY THINKING. >> > > OKAY. COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. >> > > INQUIRY FOR PERSONNEL. WOULD IT BE PRACTICAL FOR THE APPLICANT TO SEEK A VARIANCE THAT WOULD SPECIFY TO HIS SITE? >> >
> THEY COULD.STANDARDS FOR VARIANCES ARE GENERALLY DIFFICULT TORE SATISFY THAN SPECIAL USAGE AUTHORIZATION AND IN SPECIFIC THEY'' D NEED TO PROGRAM CHALLENGE BASED ON THE LAND AND I HAVE A TOUGH TIME IMAGINING HOW YOU WOULD PROVE THAT NOT HAVING LIGHTING ON UNTIL 5:00 A.M. IS DIFFICULTY. >> > > THANKS >>. > > ANY OTHER CONCERNS. COMMISSIONER SANTIAGO. >> > > I SIMPLY DESIRED TO ASK REAL QUICK, , IN TERMS OF THE PROCEDURE IN WRITING TEXT AMENDMENTS, EXISTS ANY WAY TO MAYBE FORMULATE SOME DESIGN CRITERIA IN SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS? I'' VE BEEN TO MULTIPLE TOP GOLF AREAS, THOSE LIGHTS ARE REALLY TALL, SO I ASK YOURSELF IF THERE'' S ANY WAY UH TO LAYOUT SITE ITSELF IN A WAY TO LIMIT DISTANCE THE LIGHT IMPACTS SURROUNDING CHARACTERISTICS EVEN IF THE 100 FOOT BUFFER EXISTS.
>> > > IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT. THE PROCESS ON THIS WAS WE STARTED WITH AN PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION WITH PERSONNEL CONCERNING THE ISSUE THAT WE DEALT WITH AND THE TROUBLES WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS. WE DISCUSSED VARIANCE OTION AND CONCLUDE THAT WAS BAD. WE PROFFERED MESSAGE THAT WOULD ENABLE AFTER-HOURS ILLUMINATION IN EVERY INDUSTRIAL ZONE AND PERSONNEL SAID, GEE, I BELIEVE THAT'' S WE and too wide CLAIMED LET ' S TALK ANOTHER PERSON ANOTHER PERSON OPTION. WE AND TEAM AFTER LOOK AT THIS CHOSE THE SPECIAL USAGE LICENSE AS THE VERY BEST ALTERNATIVE TO ACHIEVE WHAT THE CANDIDATE'' S TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AT THIS SIE WHILE SECURING THE CITY AND THE REGION INTEREST IN NOT CREATING SOMETHING THAT USED INDISCRIMINATELY ACROSS ENTIRE AREA AND TO YOUR QUESTION CONCERNING STANDARDS, THOSE STANDARDS ARE A PART OF THE UNIQUE USAGE PROCEDURE. THE UNIQUE USE PROCESS NEEDS US TO APPEAR AND PROVE THAT IT'' S NOT GOING TO HAVE ADVERSE INFLUENCE ON SURROUNDING CHARACTERISTICS AND THERE ARE An ENTIRE LISTING OF MATTERS THERE.THEY ARE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE TO BE THERE AND WOULD NEED TO EXIST, AND THE COMFORT THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD DRAW FROM THE MEANS WERE TRYING TO TECHNIQUE THIS IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THIS COMES BACK TO THE BOARD OF ADJUST MS, THEY WILL CERTAINLY BE SEEKING US TO CONFIRM WE'' VE MET THOSE STANDARDS AND THAT THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE AREA ARE SECURED. >> > > THANKS >>. >> > > THANK YOU. >> > > , COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > HOW IS THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT YOUR CLIENT HAS CURRENTLY PRESENTLY UH ZONED? >> >
>> > INDUSTRIAL. > > INDUSTRIAL OR INDUSTRIAL LIGHT >>? > > LIGHT, >> I ASSUME. > > IP ZONING. > > IT ' S INTENDED INDUSTRIAL? AN An ADDITIONAL LAYER OF CONSTRAINT THAT COULD BE PUT RIGHT HERE SO THEIR STRATEGY WAS LET'' S TECHNIQUE IT BY AREA AND MODIFICATION STANDARDS. TEAM REACTION, IT WAS TOO BROAD. I CONCUR. LET'' S TO PERFORM IT BY UH USE LICENSE. WE COULD INTEGRATE BOTH TECHNIQUES AND SAY IN SPECIFIC AREAS WITH An USE LICENSE, SPECIALIZED SPECIFICATIONS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE DOES SUCH AS THIS ONE HAS, AND THAT CAP.YOU COULD GET
A WHOLE LOT CLOSER TO SOMETHING I MIGHT ELECT BUT I WOULD STILL WANT TO STUDY THE MAP A LITTLE BIT SO SEE WHAT WE WERE OBTAINING PEOPLE IN FOR. >> > > ADDITIONAL CONCERNS? O.K.. GREAT. COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. >> > > I MOVE THAT WE SEND CASE TC1900002 TO THE CIY COUNCIL AND THE REGION COMMISSIONERS WITH A POSITIVE SUGGESTION. >> > > SECOND >>. > > IT HAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER AL-TURK AND SECONDLY BY COMMISSIONER BUZBY THAT WE SEND THING NUMBER TC1900002 OUT DOOR ILLUMINATION ONWARD TO CITY BOARD WITH A DESIRABLE SUGGESTION. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, LET US HAVE A ROLL TELEPHONE CALL PLEASE. [ROLL CALL VOTE]
>> > > MOVEMENT PASSES 9-4. >> > > MANY THANKS. WE ' RE READY FOR THE NEXT THING. TEXT MODIFICATIONS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE: TC1900005 AFFORDABLE HOUSING HOUSE SYSTEM INTERPRETATION. >> > > MICHAEL SUPPLY WITH PREPARING DIVISION. WOULD AMEND CURRENT INTERPRETATION OF DWELLING DEVICE 17.3 OF UDO. PURPOSE IS TO SHOW DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN SERVICES AND FOR-SALE UNITS, ALLOW FLEXIBLE FOR HOME TO REMAIN IN UNITS AS THEIR REVENUE INCREASES TO A SPECIFIC EXTENT AND ALSO TO BE CONSTANT WITH NEW POLICIES ADVERTISEMENT PROCEDURING BEING ESTABLISHED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADVANCEMENT DEPARTMENT AS THEY DEVELOP THOSE TREATMENTS FOR TRACKING BUDGET FRIENDLY HOUSING SYSTEMS CONSTRUCTED PURE ACCORDING TO ANY PARKING ALLOWANCES, ETC.THIS WAS DEVELOPED IN CON STRUNGS WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND VIA THE CITY LAWYER ' S OFFICE ALSO ASSESSED THIS.'WAS ALSO SENT BENT ON A NUMBER OF NON-PROFITS AND ALSO MARKET-RATE PROVIDERS TO OBTAIN INPT AND RESPONSES ON AND IT WAS ALSO SENT TO THE UNION FOR AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE AND TRANSPORTATION TO OBTAIN THEIR COMMENTS ON. THE MODIFICATION WOULD REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH CHARTER STIPULATIONS OF THE CITY THAT PERMITS THE ECONOMICAL REAL ESTATE THICKNESS BENEFITS AND THAT THE IT STAYS LOW-INCOME MOTIVATION DEFINITION AS ESTABLISHED BY HUD. THE MEANING THAT IS OFFERED WILL CERTAINLY MEET THAT NEED AS DOES THE EXISTING INTERPRETATION, AND I ' LL BE DELIGHTED TO SOLUTION ANY INQUIRIES. WE DO HAVE KAREN LOTTERY WITH COMMUNITY GROWTH DEPARTMENT THAT HAS A LOT EVEN MORE BACKGROUND AND EXPERTISE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS DO I. MANY THANKS QUITE. > > THANK YOU. I DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE JOINED TO SPEAK.THEY DID NOT INDICATE FOR OR AGAINST SO I ' M GOING TO BEGIN WITH– > > HE ' S FOR.
> > THIS MAY BE AGAINST. WE ' LL START WITH COCK HAILS. > > GREAT NIGHT. THANK YOU FOR> YOUR SOLUTION. >> I AM ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE COALITION ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATIONS AND WHEN WE WERE WE SHOT AND ADVOCATE FOR THREE IMPORTANT POINTS: SCHEDULING PUBLIC-OWNED LAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SETTING MORE MONEY RIGHT INTO BUDGET FRIENDLY REAL ESTATE– WHICH HAS HAD A BIG INCREASE LATER– AND ALSO TRYING TO IDENTIFY WAYS OF ENCOURAGING MORE INCLUDED REAL ESTATE TEAM SUCH AS THROUGH EXPANDED HOUSING CHOICES CAMPAIGN. WHILE THAT WAS GING ON AND WE TOGETHER WITH YOU ALL WERE ACTIVE IN TRYING TO SIFT OUR METHOD THROUGH THAT, UM, IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT SEVERAL OF THE MAJOR NON-PROFIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS IN TOWN STATED INCIDENTALLY WE ALSO NEED TO MODIFY THIS INTERPRETATION OF LOW-MODERATE REVENUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE MORE CONVENIENT AND THE ISSUE WAS PARTICULARLY ON THE SIDE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SALE.AT THAT TIM, IT WAS DURING THE CLOSING STAGES OF THE EHC AND THERE WAS NOT AN ACTUAL DRAFT THAT ENVIRONMENT AND LAND TRUST FUND AND OTHERS HAD PUT TOGETHER AND REVIEWED, THEREFORE WE ENDORSED AT THAT TIME TRYING TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY TO COME BACK BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS A SPECIFIC TROUBLE THEY ' D HAVE IN TRYING TO MAKE FULL USAGE OF THE HOPEFULLY APPROVAL OF THE MUTUAL FUND AND VARIOUS OTHER POINTS TO CREATE EVEN MORE INEXPENSIVE REAL ESTATE IN TOWN.SO WE ' RE, SO I ' M SPEAKING IN ADVOCACY FOR THE NON-PROFITS THAT REQUESTED THIS WE and transform THINK IT ' S ONE SMALL THING THAT CANISTER BE BENEFICIAL IN ASSISTING TO GENERATE EVEN MORE AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE IN THE AREA.
MANY THANKS. > > THANKS. THE NEXT INDIVIDUAL I HAVE IS NOTED AS JULIUS BARTELL. > > EXCEPT OR AGAINST, I JUST– ALL RIGHT. MY [INDISTINCT] OF AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE IS SOMEBODY THAT ' S MAKING $600 A MONTH >> ON SOCIAL SECURITY HAS An AREA TO LEASE. HOUSINGS AROUND HERE CURRENTLY AR >> NOT, PERIOD, BUT THEY CANISTER BE. TRAVEL TRAILERS.
> > THEY ALL HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. > > THANK YOU. > > QUESTION FOR PERSONNEL. > > MICHAEL SUPPLY WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT. > > THANK YOU.I LIVED FIVE YEARS IN A TRAVEL ROUTE TORE JUMP ON MY FEET WHEN WE FIRST OBTAINED MARRIED. FROM THAT I OWN PROPERTY IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND NORTH CAROLINA. TRAILER GAE ME A POSSIBILITY TO HOP ON MY FEET AS A GUY, AS A 20-YEAR-OLD, MY WIFE WAS TWENTY YEARS OLD.IF YOU HAD A MOBILE HOME PARK, WHICH TRAILERS RUN ANYWHERE FROM EIGHT TO $23,000, TO PUT INDIVIDUALS IN IT, HOMELESS PEOPLE. YOU CAN CHARGE THEM A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH LEASE. IT'' LL ASSISTANCES PAY FOR THE TRAILERS AND AFTER YOU'' RE DONE WITH THEM YOU CAN OFFER TO PEOPLE THAT WANT TRAVELING TRAILERS TO TAKE PLACE TRIPS, BUT I SUGGEST TRAVEL TRAILERS TO ASSIST WITH HOMELESS TROUBLE IN ADDITION TO BUDGET FRIENDLY REAL ESTATE DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU TIN BUY A TRAILER WITH $20,000 OR YOU CAN BUILD – THESE COME PROVIDED WITH COUCHES, BEDS, FRIDGES, STOVES, HEATERS, SINKS, COMODES. DEVELOP A RESIDENCE FOR $70,000, YOU STILL REACHED PUT ANOTHER $20,000 INTO IT. THEN AFTERWARDS, YOU KNOW, BUT TRAVEL TRAILERS WOULD ASSISTANCE OUT THE SCENARIO. YOU TIN TAKE NINE MONTHS TO CONSTRUCT A HOUSE OR YOU CAN TAKE 1 MONTH TO PUT IN WATER AND SEWER ON THE GREAT DEAL AND PULL TRAILERS THEREIN AND PARK THEM AND PUT PEOPLE IN THEM THAT NEED TO BE PLACE IN. THANKS. >> >
> THANK YOU.I DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY SIGNED UP TO TALK SO I'' M GOING TO CLOSE THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING AND PROVIDE COMMISSIONERS AN CHANCE TO ASK CONCERNS. COMMISSIONER DURKIN. >> > > I HAVE An INQUIRY FOR STAFF AND IT MAY BE BETTER SUITED FOR KAREN, NO CRIME, MICHAEL. > >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> > > KAREN LOTO, FROM COMMUNITY GROWTH. >> > > LEAS AND INCOME LEVELS CONNECT TOGETHER.THE MEANING DOESN ' T INCLUDE SERVICE REQUIREMENT SO TYPICALLY UH AN AFFORDABLE UNIT WOULD BE 30%OF THE APPLICABLE AMI, SO YOU COULD PUT ANYONE WHO ' S AT 60% IN A DEVICE BUT THE'RENTAL FEE, IT DOESN ' T MEAN THE RENT IS AFFORDABLE SO IT DOESN ' T MAKE IT AN AFFORDABLE DEVICE. >> > > GREAT CONCERN. GOING ALONG WITH THIS UDO MEANING, THERE IS REAL LAY COLLECTIONS OF PROGRAM POLICIES THAT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND PREPARATION HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR NOW THE ONY– DUE TO THE FACT THAT NOW THIS INTERPRETATION PUTS ON THE THICKNESS BENEFITS. >> > > MM-HMM >>. > > THAT IS THE ONE SORT OF UDO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM. WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING ONWARD A SET OF GUIDELINES FOR THE THICKNESS INCENTIVE TO CITY COUNCIL, ACTUALLY TO THIS BODY– DELAY, WHAT'' S THE PROCEDURE? I WEAR ' T GENERALLY GO TO PREPARATION COMMISSION. ARE WE GOING STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL? >> > > FOR YOUR REGULATIONS? >> > > STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL.YOU DON '
T GET TO SEE THEM, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE An ENTIRE DETAILED COLLECTIONS OF POLICIES THAT WILL SET OUT ALL HOW IS INCOME DETERMINED? HOW IS LEASE CALCULATED? WHAT IS OPTIMUM RENT? HOW IS FOR-SALE PRICE? WHAT'' S THE OPTIMUM FOR-SALE PRICE? THAT ' LL ALL BE LAID OUT IN THE GUIDELINES WE ' LL ASK COUNCIL TO APPROVE. >> > > SO BUT HOW DO WE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THOSE LAWS– IT CLAIMS WE'' LL FOLLOW POLICIES >>– > >'THAT ' S THE REFERRAL RIGHT THERE. THAT THIS WILL BE THE PLAN AND PROCEDURES. >> > MY WORRY REALLY IS THEY'' RE NOT TIED IN THE DEFINITION SO IT DOES NOT MAKE HAVING 60% AMI RENTER IN An UNIT IN WHICH THEY'' RE PAYING 70% OF REVENUE TOWARDS LEASE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY AN AFFORDABLE UNIT.J THERE ARE A GREAT DEAL OF OTHER MATTERS THAT– YOU CAN ONLY PUT A LOT INTO THE INTERPRETATION. >> > > RIGHT >>. > > AND AND SO THAT ' S WHY THERE NEEDS TO BE A MUCH EVEN MORE– WE HAVE 15-20 PAGES OF LAWS TO CHOOSE HOW THIS ACTUALLY TURNS OUT, AND THAT WILL CERTAINLY ALL BE LAID OUT IN THE LAWS HOW ALL THIS IS CALCULATED. >> > > WITHOUT HAVING THOSE GUIDELINES THIS INTERPRETATION DOESN'' T MEAN ANYTHING WITH ME AND I TIN'' T VOTE FOR IT WITHOUT HAVING THE BIGGER CONTEXT. YOU COULD HAVE DEFINITION THAT LINKS THE RENT TO IT AND IT'' D BE SUCCINCT AND MAKE FEELING AND REGULATORY CONTRACTS TEEM WITH WHAT IT IMPLIES TO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE LEASE AND JUST INCLUDING THE TRUTH THAT– I >> > > I HEAR WHAT YOU'' RE SAY >>– > > WITHOUT HAVING LARGER CONTEXT THE INTERPRETATION DOESN'' T REALLY DO A>> GREAT DEAL. > > THIS IS THE MEANING'THAT ' S IN THE UDO, THIS IS REFINEMENT OF THE >> UDO MEANING. > > I DON ' T THINK >> THAT DEFINITION FUNCTIONS. > > BUT I THINK UH THE IMPORTANT POINT TO, UM, DEFINE HERE IS THIS IS NOT THE DEFINITION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE CITY OF DURHAM AS A WHOLE. UM, THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE FOR PROGRAMS USING AFFORDABLE PROVISIONS WITHIN THE UDO.
>> > > MM-HMM. >> > > AND THOSE PROGRAMS HAVE TREATMENTS and policies RELATED TO THEM. IT'' S NOT– YOU COULD NOT GO AND MAKE USE OF THE THICKNESS BONUS OFFERS AND SIMPLY SAY WELL I ' M GONG TO GIVE DEVICES AT 60% AMI BUT PEOPLE HAVE TO INVEST 70% OF THEIR EARNINGS'FOR REAL ESTATE. THAT ' S NOT HOW THE PROGRAM IS COLLECTION UP. YOU HAVE TO WORK OUT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND THAT'' LL SPECIFY UH PRICE LEVELS OF YOUR DEVICE, HOW THEY'' RE DISTRIBUTED, WHAT THE LEAS WILL BE, HOW YOU'' LL CALCULATE INCOME, WHAT DOCUMENTS YOU'' RE EXPECTED TO HAVE IN THE LESSEE DOCUMENTS, HOW THE CITY, HOW AREA ADVANCEMENT DIVISION WILL CERTAINLY MONITOR THOSE SYSTEMS, WHAT REPORTING WILL CERTAINLY BE REQUIRED, ETC, ETC.SO THERE ISN'' T AN An ALTERNATIVE TODAY WHERE YOU CANISTER GO AND JUST DO WHAT YOU WANT AND SAY IT FULFILLS THICKNESS BONUS OFFER BECAUSE IN ORDER TO DO THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR REGULATIONS. >> > > SO THERE ARE LAWS IN POSITION FOR THE DENSITY– >> > > THAT ' S WHAT WE ' RE TAKING THROUGH COUNCIL IN THE COMING >> WEEKS. > > OK. JUST SEEMS LIKE An IN REVERSE METHOD TO PERFORM IT THEN. >> > > WELL, WE CANISTER'' T TAKE LAWS THAT SAY THAT 80 %AMI IS THE FOR-SALE GUIDELINE IF IT ' S NOT IN THE DEFINITION OF THE >> UDO NOW. > > [INDISCERNIBLE] > > SO AS KAREN WAS ELUDING TO, WE INTENDED TO RUN THESE CONCURRENTLY. SO COUNCIL'' S GOING SEE THOSE LAWS AND TREATMENT THAT KAREN ' S DEPARTMENT IS DEVELOPING AT THE EXACT SAME TIME THEY ' RE GOING TO SEE IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT SO IT'' S GOING TO RUN TOGETHER >>. >'> WE ' RE SIMPLY BLIND TO THE LARGER CONTEXT, UNFORTUNATELY.
>> > > YEAH. WE NEEDED TO EXPLAIN THAT BETTER FOR YOU. >> > > OKAY. I DON ' T LIKE >> THAT IN ANY WAY. > > THANKS. >> COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > SO I UH HAVE A PROBLEM BUT MINE IS A LEGAL DRAFTING PROBLEM. YOU ' RE INCORPORATING BY RECOMMENDATION STANDARDS TO BE MADE OR POLICIES TO BE ADOPTED BY CITY AGENCY THAT CONTAINER BE CHANGED BY THE CITY COMPANY WHICH WILL IN E RESULT ALTER THE APPLICABILITY OF THE ORDINANCE DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU'' LL BE ALTERING THE RULES.YOU CANISTER ' T DO THAT. THE CITY MAY INCORPORATE BY REFERRAL AN EXISTING STANDARD FROM AN OUTSIDE AGENCY BY IDENTIFYING IT, BUT YOU TIN NOT INTEGRATE BY REFERENCE REQUIREMENTS THAT MAY BE MADE OR ALTERED IN THE FUTURE BY AN FIRM CITY GOVERNMENT. THAT ' S A DELEGATION OF THE LEGAL FUNCTION TO A CITY DEPARTMENT OR OFFICIAL. YOU TIN ' T DO THAT. THE GENERAL SETTING UP HAS DELICATED LEGISLATIVE FUNK– FUNCTION TO THE CITY AND NEEDS TO ADHERE TO RULES.CITY COUNCIL CAN NOT, IN TURN, SAY UH THIS IS ST BIG REGULATION BUT ALL THE INFORMATION WILL BE
DEALT WITH BY OUR PERSONNEL AND CHANGEABLE BY THEM IN THE KINDS OF PLANS. YOU CAN ' T DO IT IN THIS WAY. NOT LAWFUL. BECAUSE I ALSO DON ' T UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE ARE BUT ALSO SINCE I PUT ON ' T BELIEVE IT ' S An EXPERIENCED MEANS OF ADOPTING LAW UH, I HAVE TO VOTE AGINST THIS TOO AND I REALLY'PUT ON ' T INTEND TO BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EHC AND PENIS AND FOLKS INVOLVED US AND SAID WE HAVE MEANING OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, DOESN ' T HELP DURHAM, I WAS ALL ABOT THAT, BUT WE'REQUIREMENT TO HAVE– AND I CONCUR E WITH KAREN, YOU UH DON ' T NECESSARILY WANT TO PUT THE ENTIRE DAMN THING IN THE'REGULATION. YOU TIN INCORPORATE BY RECOMMENDATION AND WE DO, WE INCORPORATE THINGS BY REFERENCE IN OTHER PLACES, AND WE CAN DO THAT HERE BUT IT ' S OBTAINED TO BE ALREADY EXISTING. IT ' S OBTAINED TO HAE A DAY. WHEN WE NEED TO ADJUSTMENT THAT, WE NEED TO RETURN AND CHANGE THE REGULATION BY THE DATE.THAT ' S THE WAY IT ' S DONE AT THE COMMUNITY DEGREE. THE ONLY EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN PLACES, THERE ARE AREAS'WHERE FEDERAL LAW PARTICULARLY SAY YOU CONTAINER– LIKE FUTURE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE CODE AND THOSE HAVE BEEN HELD PROFICIENT AT THE STATE DEGREE BUT NOT WHEN YOUR ENTRUSTING CITY COMPANY THE ABILITY TO MAKE DETAILS OF THE RULES. YOU TIN ' T DO THIS. YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO IT BUT YOU CAN ' T DO IT IN THIS MANNER. YOU CAN ' T INCORPORATE FUTURE MODIFICATIONS. THEREFORE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MODIFICATION. DO WE KNOW– I MEAN WE ' RE CREATING THESE POLICIES, AND A WHEN WE HAVE THEM DONE WE ' LL ADOPT THM IN SOME WAY, AND THEN IN MY OPINIONING– YU CREATE THE POLICIES FIRST AND AFTER THAT YOU CHANGE TIS BY DETAILS RECOMMENDATION TO THE GUIDELINES EMBRACED BY THE COMMUNITY ADVANCEMENT DEPARTMENT AND DATED LAW BLAH BLAH BLAH AFTER THAT IT ' S SKILLED AND I WOULD SUPPORT THAT BUT I WOULD LIKEWISE LIKE MS.DURKIN LIKE TO SEE IT. I WISH TO LISTEN TO HER DISCUSS WHY IT ' S EXCELLENT OR OTHERWISE GOOD BECAUSE THIS IS HER
AREA, NOT MINE. > > IT IS MY AREA. [GIGGLING] > > AND BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT ALL COLLABORATING AND HAVE THE INCORPORATION BY REFERRAL TO BE AN APPROPRIATE AND CORRECT ONE. >> ANOTHER QUESTION SIMPLY TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.WE HAVE A CHARTER PROVISION THAT EXPRESSLY CONTEMPLATES MOTIVATIONS FOR AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE, AND I BELIEVE SINCE WE ' VE SEEN OTHER COMMUNITIES TRY TO KIND
OF MESS AROUND WITH THEIR CODES AND THEIR PROCEDURES TO TWIST DEVELOPERS ARMS AND TO PROMISE US T CONSTRUCT BUDGET FRIENDLY REAL ESTATE AND COURTS AR ALLOWING THEM OUT. DURHAM HAS CHARTER ARRANGEMENT THAT EXPRESSLY STATES IN DURHAM THE CITY CANISTER WITH AN AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE THICKNESS BONUS OR OTHER MOTIVATIONS– WE COULD EVEN HAVE OTHER REWARDS– TAKE A DESIGNER ' S GUARANTEE. IN ANY OPINION BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT IN THE CHARTER, WE HAVE SOMETHING IF SOMEBODY TAKES United States TO COURT, WE ' VE GOT LAW AT THE STATE LEEL SINCE CHARTER IS STATE'LAW THAT THE OTHERS DON ' T HAVE AND WE ' LL WIN, BUT I INTEND TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IF WE'MODIFICATION THE INTERPRETATION FAR FROM 60%AMI, THAT– AND WE OBTAIN A DESIGNER'WHO GUARANTEES AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AT 80 %AMI, ACQUISITION UNITS AT 80% AMI, THAT THAT WILL STILL BE THE TYPE OF PRICE THAT IS CONSIDERED A A MINIMUM IN THE CHARTER. DOES IT TIE US TO A BASIC OR CONTAINER WE MAKE REQUIREMENT TOUGHER IN PLACES LIKE GOING TO 30 YEARS AND UNWIND IT IN OTHER PLACES LIKE GOING TO 80 %AMI PURCHASE UNITS? I INTEND TO BE POSITIVE ABOUT THAT.WHAT DOES THE CHARTER SAY? > > MICHAEL SUPPLY WITH PREPARING DIVISION. THE CHARTER PROVISION TALKS ABOUT LOW AND MODEST EARNINGS MEANING REGULATIONS
ESTABLISHED BY HUD AND IF THEY >> HAVEN ' T DEVELOPED IT THEN CITY CAN GO ON AND DEVELOP WHAT IT DESIRES. [CAPTIONS WILL CERTAINLY RETURN SHORTLY] > > IT IS AFFORDABLE. YOU HAVE PURCHASED THE DEVICE THEN. WHAT TAKES PLACE AND SO LONG AS YOU WERE ICOME ELIGIBLE AT THE TIME YOU BOUGHT AFTER THAT OUR CONCERN IS NOT >> WHAT OCCURS– OUR HOPE IS ACTUALLY THAT YOU ' RE GOING TO GO OUT AND A BECAUSE YOUR HOUSING EXPENSE IS REASONABLE, YOU ' RE GOING TO GO OUT AND INUH VEST IN OTHER THINGS AND INCOME WILL RISE. IT IS ONLY AT THE POINT THAT YOU GO T OFFER THE HOME IF IT ' S WITHIN THE 30-YEAR DURATION THAT THE ISSUE IS YOU'NEED TO SELL TO AN INCOME-ELIGIBLE HOME, AND IT WILL CERTAINLY FURTHER INDICATE IN PROCEDURES YOU NEED TO OFFER AT A COST AT'OR LISTED BELOW THE OPTIMUM COST THAT THE CITY DEVELOPS IN THAT YEAR FOR AUH FOR-SALE ITEM AND THAT OPTIMUM COST WILL CERTAINLY BE CALCULATED EACH YEAR BASED ON HOME MORTGAGE FEES AND OTHER FACTORS IN THE MARKET.BUT, NO, YOU ' RE AT A PROPERTY OWNER THEN THE ONLY POINT WE WOULD BE MONITORED AS COMMUNITY ADVANCEMENT IS DO YOU STILL LIVE IN THE HOME. > > THANK YOU. I WILL CERTAINLY RESEMBLE COMMISSIONERS AND IT WOULD
BE VALUABLE AT LEAST FOR ME TO SEE THE GUIDELINES THAT WE ' RE SPEAKING ABOUT. I REALLY FEEL LIKE I ' M BELIEVING IN A SPACE. > > OKAY. ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS? OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER DURKIN. > > I CAN ' T NOT CHOOSE THIS. I FOAL'LIKE I ' M IN A REALLY >> CONFLICTING PLACE RIGHT HERE BEING THE ONE WHO ALWAYS ASKS ABOUT AFFORDABLE> HOUSING BUT I DO THINK IN MY COMMENTS, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BUZBY THAT IT IS SORT OF A COUNT ON AUTUMN AND IN MY COMMENTS I ' LL BE BROADENING ON WHAT MY CONCERNS ARE, BUTLY BE BALLOT FOR IT BUT WITH A GREAT DEAL OF RESERVATIONS IN MY COMMENTS. > > ANY OTHER UNREADINESS? IF NOT, I ' M READY FOR A MOVEMENT. > > MADAM CHAIR I MOVE TC 1900005 AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE DWELLING SYSTEM MEANING FORWARD> TO THE CITY BOARD WITH A DESIRABLE RECOMMENDATION. >> > > SECONDLY. > > MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILLER; SECONDLY BY COMMISSIONER AL-TURK THAT WE MOVE ITEM TC 1900005 AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESIDENCE UNIT INTERPRETATION FOR WARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL> WITH A POSITIVE REFERRAL. > > ALSO GOES TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONER? > > YEAH. > > TO BOTH BOTH CHOSEN BODIES. > > BOTH ELECTED BODIES AMENDING OUR ACTIVITY TO GUARANTEE IT ' S BOTH. DONE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOVEMENT A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. [ROLL TELEPHONE CALL BALLOT]
>>. > > MOVEMENT PASSES 12-1. >> > > ONE ITEM UNDER NEW SERVICE. YOUR PRESENTATION TEER QUARY/ENO INTAKE PRESENTATION. > > TONIGHT WE ' RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU CONCERNING SOMETHING THAT ' S EXTREMELY ESSENTIAL BUT DOESN ' T OBTAIN SEEN BECAUSE MOSTLY IT ' S UNDERGROUND.I WISH TO INTRODUCE MY COWORKER SID MILLER THAT ' S ELDERLY WATER RESOURCES MANAGER AT'THE WATER ADMINISTRATION DIVISION. WITH WE AT'THE CITY OF DURHAM ARE PROPOSING A NEW CONSUMPTION ALONG ENO RIVER WHICH HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF CLEAN WATER TO THE PEOPLE WHO RESIDE IN DURHAM AND WILL LIKEWISE HAVE RAMIFICATIONS TO THE LANDMARK DEFENSE OVERLAY AREA THAT EXISTS ALONG ENO. SID WILL CERTAINLY OFFER DISCUSSION CONCERNING INTAKE AND THEN I ' LL SPEAK ABOUT ENO LANDMARK DEFENSE OVERLAY. > > THANK YOU. > > EXCELLENT EVENING. I ' M NOT USED TO– NOT USUALLY IN THIS SPACE, USUALLY IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM SO THIS IS ALL A LITTLE VARIOUS FOR ME. I MUST LIKEWISE ALERT YOU THAT I UH OBTAIN UP AT 5:00 IN THE MORNING AND WE ' RE ALREADY APPROACHING MY BEDTIME. >> > > YOU DON ' T DEMAND An UNIQUE USE LICENSE TO KEEP UP LATE. [LAUGHTER] > > I TIN ' T SAY.SO, I ' M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FIRST THREE THINGS BELOW CONCERNING OUR WATER SYSTEM IN GENERAL FO TH CITY TO SUPPLY A LITTLE CONTEXT. >> SPEAK ABOUT RATE– TEER QUARY, ITSELF. THEN SCOTT WILL DISCUSS EVERY LITTLE THING ELSE. SO WE HAVE LAKE MICKIE >>, ONE'OF OUR MAIN RESERVOIRS'FOR THE CITY BUILT QUITE A LONG TIME AGO. HAVE LITTLE RIVER STORAGE TANK. BOTH OF THOSE TWO PRODUCTS ARE– THAT ' S MAINLY, THOSE ARE OUR MAIN SOURCES OF SUPPLY. WE RECENTLY RAISED OUR ALLOTMENT OUT OF JORDAN LAKE. NOW, WE DON ' T HAVE AN CONSUMPTION, OURSELVES, ON JORDAN LAKE. I ' LL EXPLAIN EVEN MORE CONCERNING THAT. THESE ARE OUR WATER MATERIALS THAT'WE HVE SORT OF A QUICK SUMMARY OF THEM.JORDAN LAKE YOU SEE I ' VE WENT ACROSS THAT OFF AND THAT ' S BASICALLY BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE AN INTAKE IN JORDAN LAKE AT THIS TIME. AMONG OUR WATER THERAPY PLANTS– > > WHEN YOU SAY CONSUMPTION YOU INDICATE LIKE A SFWRU THE WATER? > > EXACTLY. THERE IS AN CONSUMPTION IN
JORDAN LAKE IT ' S POSSESSED BY THE CARRY AND PINNACLE, COLLECTIVELY. THIS IS JUST ONE OF OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS WHICH I KNOW A FEW OF YOU ARE QUITE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT. > > EXTREMELY. 1917. > > THIS IS THE VARIOUS OTHER THE WE G. BROWN CURRENTLY UNDERGOING DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS JUST A SHORT >> CONCERNING BOTH. AND AFTER THAT THIS IS IN WHICH OUR WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM INTERFACES WITH OUR WORK.THIS IS OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. THIS IS IN WHICH THE LAND USE CHOICES YOU ALL MAKE, UM, HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE WATER THAT WE DELIVER AND> ARE LIMITED BY >> OUR ABILITIES TO PROVIDE THAT WATER TO ANY SPECIFIC PLACE WITHIN THE CITY. SO, THE WESTERN CONSUMPTION PARTNERSHIP IS SOMETHING WE JUST JUST RECENTLY CREATED, CONSISTS OF THE CITY OF DURHAM, THE ORANGE WATER AND DRAIN AUTHORITY, PITTSBURGH AND CHATHAM REGION. ESTABLISH NEW FACILITY ON THE SEVEN SIDE OF JORDAN LAKE WHICH WILL INCLUDE AN INTAKE, A BIG THERAPY CENTER AND REGIONAL PUMP STATION TO SEND TREATED WATT TORE EACH OF THE PARTNERS. THIS IS OUR CURRENT PROJECTION OF WATER SYSTEM REQUIRES. THE DOTTED ENVIRONMENT-FRIENDLY LINE IS STANDARD NEED WHICH IS HOW WE PREPARE FOR THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE HAVE IN SUPPLY. THAT DASHED RED LINE IS OPTIMUM DEMAND WHICH IS HO WE STRATEGY THE WATER TREATMENT CENTER THAT WE DEMAND. I ' VE SHOWN IN WHICH OUR CURRENT DEGREE OF WATER SUPPLY IS WITH THAT SOLID ECO-FRIENDLY LINE. THAT IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND AS YOU TIN SEE, WE ' RE ALREADY LATE IN OBTAINING JORDAN LAKE ONLINE. NOW, WE HAVE INTERCONNECTION WITH THE COMMUNITY OF CARRY WHICH IS HOW WE ' RE ABLE TO TRANSFER TREATED WATER AS WE REQUIREMENT AND THAT ' S HOW WE CURRENTLY ACCESS OUR JORDAN LAKE SUPPLY OF WATER STORAGE APPROPRIATION BUT WE ' RE LIMITED IN EXPANDED HOUSING CHOICES WATER WE CAN TRANSFER FROM THE TOWN OF CARRY.THIS IS IN WHICH TIER– TEER QUARY COMES IN. THAT ' S A WONDERFUL IMAGE OF TEER QUARY. THAT ' S WHERE IT ' S SITUATED WHICH INCIDENTALLY GETS ON DENFIELD ROADWAY. > > HMM. > > SO TEER QUARY'IS FUNDAMENTAL. WE REQUIREMENT TO BRING IT ONLINE AS A WELL WATER STORAGE SPACE CENTER. THE THING ABOUT TEER QUARY IS THAT IT ' S ESSENTIALLY ONLY FILL LD BY'RAINWATER. IT WAS LAST USED IN 2007, THROUGHOUT EXTREME DROUGHT. > > I BEAR IN MIND THAT.
> > WE MOUNTED A TEMPORARY INTAKE AND MOMENTARY PUMPS AND PUMPED WATER FROM TEER QUARY INTO A WELL WATER LINE THAT ' S SURROUNDING TO THE QUARY AND SENT IT TO WILLIAMS> WATER >> TREATMENT PLANT. SO, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FILL TEER QUARY FROM E EITHER THE ENO RIVER OR FROM LAKE MICKIE.WHEN I SAY EITHER', WE DEMAND TO BE ABLE TO FILL IT FROM BOTH. NEED HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE WHAT WE FILL IT FROM WHEN WE NEED TO LOAD IT.> GOING BACK TO RIGHT HERE, >> YOU SEE OUR EXISTING ENO RIVER ARE CONSUMPTION. WE HAVE ONE DOWNSTREAM OF THE QUARY AND I DON ' T REALLY HAVE A METHOD OF POINTING. SO IT ' S THE ONE TO THE EAST. > > WESTERN A LOT OF– > > EASTERN A LOT OF PIN ON THE MAP. THAT ' S OUR EXISTING CONSUMPTION. WE HAVE ONE BUT IT ' S NOT NEAR THE QUARY. > > NO, IT ' S NOT
. > > ONE THAT WE WOULD LIKE IS THE WESTERN MORE PIN WHICH IS CLOSEST TO THE QUARY. THAT ' S ADVANTAGEOUS FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, IT ' S MUCH CLOSER TO THE QUARY, AND TWO, IT ' S AT A GREATER ALTITUDE. pIF WE HAVE AN CONSUMPTION CONTAINER BIRTHED A TUNNEL FROM THE RIVER TO'THE QUARY WHICH WILL PERMIT United States TO FILL UP THE QUARY CONCERNING >> 55%FULL JUST BY UH GRAVITY. THE REMAINDER OF THE STORAGE SPACE TO THE QUARY WILL NEED TO BE PUMPED'. THE MEANS WE ' RE GOING TO OPERATE THE QUARY, THE CONSUMPTIONS, IS THAT WE WILL CERTAINLY ONLY TAKE OUT WATER FROM THE ENO RIVER WHEN IT IS FLOODING.SO THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 12 DAYS DURING AN AVERAGE YEAR WHEN WE WOULD SKIM WATER FROM THE ENO RIVER, WE'WOULD TAKE IN BETWEEN 10-20%OF THE FLOW AND PUMP IT OR SEND IT BY GRAVITY INTO THE QUARY. WE WOULD ALSO PUMP WATER FROM LAKE MICKIE, AGAIN, WHEN LAKE MICKIE IS FULL WE ' LL PUMP WATER FROM LAKE MICKIE TO THE QUARY. THERE ' S A RAW WATER LINE JUST TO THE EAST OF THE QUARY. SO, UM, IN ORDER TO BUILD A BRAND-NEW CONSUMPTION ON THE ENO RIVER, THAT AREA OF THE ENO
REQUIRES TO BE CLASSIFIED AS A WATER BY THE STATE. AS SOON AS IT ' S CATEGORIZED AS A SUPPLY OF WATER, THEN THERE ARE LAND USE IMPLICATIONS. THAT ' S WHERE YOU BE AVAILABLE IN. > > SO IF SOMETHING IS CLASSIFIED AS SUPPLY OF WATER BY THE STATE, THERE ARE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH WATERSHED SECURITY OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICTS IN ORDER TO SECURE THE TOP QUALITY OF THAT WATER.WE CURRENTLY HAVE WATER SYSTEM LANDMARK OVERLAYS FOR FALLS LAKE AND JORDAN LAKE, LAKE MICKIE, FR LITTLE RIVER AND FOR THE ENO. > > NOT FR THIS. > > THERE'IS ONE FOR THE ENO. > > EXCEPT THE QUARY. > > THERE IS ONE FOR THE EXISTING EMERGENCY SITUATION INTAKE, THE ONE THAT ' S FURTHER TO THE EAST. I PUT ON ' T KNOW A GREAT DEAL OF THE INFORMATION BUT THE STATE HAS CLASSIFICATIONS, WS 1-4 BASED ON EXISTING GROWTH PATTERNS WHICH HAVE VARIOUS NEEDS FOR RESISTANT SURFACE, WATER TREATMENT, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.THE ENO IS A WS 4 WHICH IS THE MOST DEVELOPED ENTER WICH HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF RESTRICTIONS ON NEW >> DEVELOPMENT. >> THERE ' S A– BEFORE ANY >> OF THIS OCCURS, THERE ' S NOT ONLY THE LAND USAGE IMPLICATIONS I ' M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT BUT THEE ' S ALSO A GREAT DEAL OF OHER APPROVALS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN THROUGH THE STATE. THIS WILL CERTAINLY ALSO AFFECT THE RIVER-BASED WATER SUPPLY UH HAS A SHIELDED LOCATION OF TEN MILES FROM WHEREVER THE CONSUMPTION IS, SO THE PRESENT ENO OVERLAY AFFECTS THE CITY OF DURHAM, REGION OF DURHAM, AND ORANGE REGION EXPANDING IT WOULD ALSO AFFECT SMALL LITTLE BIT OF THE COMMUNITY OF HILLSBOROUGH. SID HAS HIS FUNCTION CUT OUT WITH HIM TO FUNCTION WITH THE STATE AND SOME NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST. THIS PICTURE'WHAT I SIMPLY SPOKE ABOUT. OVER BELOW ON THE EAST IS THE COMPONENT OF DURHAM IN WHICH THE INTAKE IS. IT GOES ALL THE MEANS DOWN THE ENO, OVER RIGHT HERE TO THE TOWN OF HILLSIDE UHS BORROW AND THIS SHOWS THE AREAS IN ORANGE REGION AND HILLSBOROUGH THAT WOULD BE INFLUENCED. > > EVEN MORE ORANGE COUNTY THAN THERE IS A DURHAM. > > TRUE. THIS IS THE– SO ONE STEP BACK, SO IT ' S COMPONENT OF THE WATERSHED OVERLAY. THERE ' S A STATEMENT CRITICAL LOCATION WHERE THEY LIMITATIONS APPLY AND THEN PROTECTED AREA WHICH HAVE LESS STRICT LIMITATIONS. THE MINIMUM THE STATE CALLS FOR FIFTY PERCENT MILE CRITICAL LOCATION. AN OPTION FOR CITIZEN GOVERNMENTS TO SELECT A ONE-MILE CRITICAL LOCATION. FOR EVERY ONE OF DURHAM ' S WATERSHEDS WE HAVE CHOSE A ONE-MILE CRITICAL AREA. THIS IS THE EXISTING ENO CRITICAL LOCATION.
>> THE OLD EMERGENCY INTAKE IS OVER HERE AT >> THE EASTERN END.
> > I HAVE An INQUIRY FOR STAFF AND IT MAY BE BETTER SUITED FOR KAREN, NO VIOLATION, MICHAEL. > > TO BOTH BOTH ELECTED BODIES. > > BOTH ELECTED BODIES CHANGING OUR ACTIVITY TO GUARANTEE IT ' S BOTH. > > YOU WEAR ' T REQUIREMENT A SPECIAL USAGE LICENSE TO REMAIN UP LATE. > > WESTERN THE MAJORITY OF– > > EASTERN MANY PIN ON THE MAP.DARKER AREAS IN THE CITY, LESS HEAVY AREAS IN THE AREA. , if THE INTAKE GOTTEN RID OF CRITICAL LOCATION WOULD NEED TO RELOCATE AS WELL.SMALL HALF CIRCLE HERE WIH HATCHING OUT INDICATE WHAT IS A FIFTY PERCENT MILE CRITICAL AREA WOULD LIKE LIKE.. LARGER BLUE SEMICIRCLE IS WHAT A MILE WOULD APPEAR LIKE. SO THE LIMITATIONS IN THE UDO FOR THE EA IS ACRONYM FOR CRITICAL AREA, EB IS ABBREVIATION FOR PROTECTED LOCATION. IN THE EA INDUSTRIAL UTILIZES AND FUEL STOPS WORKING ARE PROHIBITED. 24%INVULNERABLE SURFACE LIMITATION WITH NO EXCEPTIONS. THERE ' S A STREAM BARRIER OF 150 FEET SEASONAL AND 50 FEET FOR RECURRING AND MINIMAL 20,000 SQUARE FOOT WHOLE LOT DIMENSION. IN THE EB THERE ' S NO USE RESTRICTIONS, A 24 %LOW DENSITY CHOICE, 70 %HIGH UH DENSITY ALTERNATIVE WHERE ADDITIONAL WATER QUALITY MANAGES ENABLE YOU TO PUT EVEN MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA. THERE ' S A SLIGHTLY SMALLER SIZED BUFFER FOR SEASONAL STREAMS AND NO'ADDITIONAL CRITERIA FOR WHOLE LOT DIMENSION OR THINGS LIKE THAT. WE REVIEWED THIS AT THE DURHAM CITY-COUNTY PREPARATION COMMITTEE AT THEIR JUNE MEETING. SOME THINGS GONE OVER IS THAT THE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THIS LOCATION, INCLUDING THE EVEN MORE RESTRICTIVE ONE MILE CRITICAL AREA DOES NOT OFFER US THAT MUCH IN THE BENEFIT FOR BENEFIT OF WATER TOP QUALITY BECAUSE IT ' S MAINLY CREATED, SO IT ALSO WOULD AFFECT A GREAT DEAL MORE CHARACTERISTICS IF WE'USED ONE-MILE CRITICAL AREA, TAKES IN A LT OF RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ALONG ROXBORO ROADWAY AN PROHIBIT A WHOLE LOT OF REDWEFRMENT ALONG THAT AREA.EXISTING GAS SALES WOULD NO LONGER BE PER FITTED. ENDANGERED SERVICE WE DISCUSSED WITH JOINT
COMMITTEE WAS THAT RETAINING THE EXISTING EMERGENCY SITUATION INTAKE AND ESTABLISH A HALF MILE CRITICAL LOCATION FOR THE BRAND-NEW CONSUMPTION. THE PROTECTED AREA WOULD STILL BE TEN MILES DOWN STREAM. > > THERE ' S NO CHOICE IN THE MIDDLE. IT ' S FIFTY PERCENT OR ONE? > > YEAH. >> TWO SELECTIONS. SO THE PROCEDURE GOING ONWARD CITY AND WATER MANAGEMENT THE WORK THEY REQUIRED TO ACCOMPLISH TO GET THIS PERMITTED AND OBTAIN AGREEMENTS FROM OTHER REGIONS. WHEN WE KNOW IT ' S OBTAINING NEAR A GO, WE STRATEGY ON TAKING A UDO TEXT CHANGE AND ZONING MAP ADJUSTMENT FOR THIS. WE ' VE TALKED IT OVER WITH ATTORNEY AND THEY ' RE COMFY WITH US HAVING IT MOVE FORWARD PRIOR TO THE STATE ACTUALLY ACCEPTS IT AND HAVING RELIABLE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE GO TO THE MOMENT THE STATE AUTHORIZES IT, THAT WAY COUNCIL ' S AND COMMISSIONERS HANDS AREN ' T CONNECTED TO HAVING TO ACCEPT ZONING CHNGE BASED ON ENACTION. > > WOW. > > SO THAT, WE ' D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
>> > > BY >> ALL IMPLIES, GO ON. COMMISSIONER MILLER, COMMISSIONER AL-TURK, AND COMMISSIONER BAKER. > > YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT INFLUENCE >>. IF WE DRAW WATER FROM THE ENO RIVER, WILL WE HAVE TREATMENT IMPACTS? SIMPLY PUT, NOW WE HAVE THERAPY FACILITIES THAT ARE ESTABLISH TO DEAL WITH WHAT WE EXPECT TO OBTAIN OUT OF THE WATER SOURCES THAT THEY DRAW FROM. IF WE ADD THE ENO RIVER, WHICH WAS DURHAM ' S ORIGINAL WATER SOURCE SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND NOT A VERY GREAT'ONE DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ' S A GREAT DEAL OF DISCHARGE UP STREAM, IT ' S A DIRTIER SOURCE THAN THE OTHERS, UH', WILL WE HAVE TO ADJUSTMENT OUR TREATMENT AT WILLIAMS– I UH ASSUMPTION THAT ' S WHERE THIS WATER WILL GO? > > UM, SO, THE SHORT SOLUTION IS I ' M NOT PARTICULAR, BUT MORE FULL RESPONSE IS THAT, , SO YOU ' RE RIGHT THAT THE WATER WITHIN THE ENO RIVER IS LIKELY VARIOUS FROM THE WATER THAT ' S IN LAKE MICKIE OR LITTLE RIVER RESERVOIR.WHAT ' S REALLY EVEN MORE DIFFERENT IS THE WATER THAT ' S
CURRENTLY NOW IN THE QUARY. BEFORE WE DO ANY OF THIS WORK, WE ' LL BE DOING WATER QUALITY RESEARCHES AND TREATABILITY STUDIES. SO IF THERE ARE ANY REQUIRED CHANGES IN TREATMENT OR IF THERE IS PRETREATMENT THAT ' S REQUIRED, ALL THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE FIGURED OUT PRIOR TO ANYHING ' S PUMPED. > > AND SO–'AND WILL THERE BE BASED UPON THE REGULATORY MODIFICATIONS AND LIKEWISE THE >> SERVICES OF BUILDING THESE FACILITIES AND OPERATING THEM CHANGES ON IN HOW IMPACTS ON THE RECREATION TOP QUALITY OF OUR ENO RIVER BASE PARKS AND IS THERE WILDLIFE INFLUENCE WHICH YOU PUT ON ' T TYPICALLY HEAR ME ASK ABOUT BUT I ' M A LITTLE STRESSED ABOUT IT THIS MOMENT. > > NO. THE OPERATING RULINGS THAT WE ' VE COME UP WITH, WE DEALT WITH THAT IN COOPERATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES,'WILD ANIMALS RESOURCES COMMISSION, AND U.S. FISH AWILDLIFE UH SERVICE. EVERYONE IS EXCELLENT WITH IT. > > ENO RIVER ASSOCIATION? > > I ' VE PARTICIPATED IN THE ENO RIVER USERS GROUP 2 MONTHS AGO. THE ENO RIVER, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS THERE, AND WE DISCUSSED WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED DOING AND EVERY PERSON WAS FINE WITH IT. > > AL. THAT ' S GOOD. THAT ' S WHAT I HAD. THANK YOU. > > COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. > > THANKS. I ' M NOT EXACTLY SURE IF THIS IS RELATED TO WHAT COMMISSIONER MILLER SIMPLY ASKED, BUT ON THAT PARTICULAR'LAST SLIDE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU >> ' RE GOING TO PROPOSE >> A HALF MILE CRITICAL LOCATION FROM THE SUGGESTED CONSUMPTION; IS THAT CORRECT? > > YES, THAT ' S CORRECT. > > SO HAS THAT BEEN REVIEWED WITH SEVERAL OF THE TEAMS THAT TYPICALLY LIKE THE ENO RIVER ORGANIZATION AND OTHERS? >> > > NOT YET.INFANCY. > > OK. >> INTEND ON DOING THAT BEFORE YOU START WRITING MESSAGE AMENDMENT OR TYPE OF BETWEEN THAT AND THE TIME WE SEE IT? IT ' D BEHAVE TO >> HAVE THEM
KIND OF EARLY PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK EARLY ON. > > GOOD CONCEPT. > > MANY THANKS. > > COMMISSIONER BAKER. > > SIMPLY GOING TO ASK IF An ENVIRONMENT-FRIENDLY ROOFING COUNTS AS IMPERVIOUS'AREA? > > TECHNICALLY THAT ' S A STORMWATER INQUIRY WHICH IS An ENTIRE OTHER DEPARTMENT/DIVISION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS GREEN ROOFS, I DON ' T KNOW HOW EXACTLY THEY ' RE TREATED IN TRMS OF CREDIT REPORT THAT ' S PERMITTED AND NORMALLY THIS INVOLVES NUTRIENTS.AS FAR AS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA, I ' M GOING HUNCHES THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS, IT'' S IMPERVIOUS. > > O.K.. IS IT PSSIBLE TO TRANSFER IMPERVIOUS SURFACE CREDIT HISTORIES FROM ONE PARCEL TO ANOTHER PERSON PARCEL? >
> IT IS. IT NEEDS TO B WITHIN THE SAME WATER LOST CLASSIFICATION. WOULD HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE EA TO'THE EA OR EB TO TE >> EB. > > OK. DO YOU THINK THERE COULD BE SME KIND OF SIMILAR– SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THE SQUARE FOOT >> MINIMUM LOT DIMENSION IF YOU UH DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT? DO YOU ASSUME THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE? > > I WILL CERTAINLY SAY THERE ARE A FEW THINGS >> THAT ARE NOT SPECIFY MANDATED THAT ARE IN THIS AND THAT MINIMUM LOT DIMENSION IS JUST ONE OF THEM. GAS SALE PROHIBITION IS ANOTHER. THERE ARE PROBABLY OPTIONS, DON ' T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE STANDING RIGHT HERE AT THIS VERY MOMENT>, BUT THIS IS CERTAINLY REFLECTING OF A OLDER TIME. J SURE, SURE. BECAUSE IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO EXPLORE, just INTERESTED. WHEN THIS WAS ESTABLISHED 25 YEARS BACK WAS ALREADY QUITE WELL CREATED, > > THE ENO IS EVEN. IN OUR OTHER WATERSHEDS WHICH ARE MUCH BIGGER AND LESS GROWTH, WE ACTUALLY OBTAIN MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE TRANSFERS IN THOSE AREAS. > > ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU >> BOTH FOR AN EXCEPTIONAL AND VERY USEFUL DISCUSSION. > > NEW AND VARIOUS. > > BRAND-NEW AND A DIFFERENT. AND THAT ' S OUR LAST THING. MOVEMENT TO ADJOURN.
> > THERE ' S NO ALTERNATIVE IN THE MIDDLE. > > NO. > > COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. > > TECHNICALLY THAT ' S A STORMWATER QUESTION WHICH IS A WHOLE OTHER DEPARTMENT/DIVISION. > > OKAY.