>> GOOD EVENING. I WANT TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DURHAM CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER FOR DECEMBER 3, 2018. CERTAINLY WANT TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU ALL HERE TONIGHT. WE'RE VERY — >> [LOW AUDIO]. >> I THINK THE MICROPHONE IS WORKING, I'LL TRY TO TALK LITTLE CLOSER TO IT. GOOD EVENING. >> EVENING. >> LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DURHAM CITY COUNCIL TO THE ORDER. 7:00 ON DECEMBER 3, 2018. I UH CERTAINLY WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT. GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US. I'LL FIRST ASK IF YOU'LL JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT MEDITATION. THANK YOU. I'LL ASK COUNCIL MEMBER REECE IF HE WOULD LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. Y'ALL ARE LOOKING VERY CHRISTMAS THANKS FOR THAT COORDINATION. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO AND IT'S YOUR PRACTICE TO DO SO, PLEASE RISE AND JOIN US FOR THE P PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND NOW, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> MAYOR SCHEWEL. >> HERE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ALSTON. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER CABALLERO. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER REECE. >> HERE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE CEREMONIAL ITEM TONIGHT. THE BILL OF RIGHTS DAY PROCLAMATION. I'LL ASK JOAN WALSH IF SHE WILL JOIN ME HERE AT THE PODIUM. GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> I'M GOING TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND ASK MS. WALSH IF SHE HAS A FEW WORDS FOR US. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF DURHAM IS HOME TO A DIVERSE POPULATION AND IS COMMITTED TO THE HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS OF ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS AS GUARANTEED BY THE BILL OF RIGHTS; AND WHEREAS, ON OCTOBER 20, 2003, THE CITY OF DURHAM ADOPTED BOTH THE BILL OF RIGHTS DEFENSE RESOLUTION AND THE RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE RIGHTS OF PERSONS REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS; AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF DURHAM WHEREAS, OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS THERE HAS BEEN A DISTURBING INCREASE IN THE ARREST, DETENTION, AND DEPORTATION OF IMMIGRANTS THROUGHOUT THE REGION; AND WHEREAS, SAMUEL OLIVER-BRUNO, HAVING WORKED HERE LEGALLY FOR MANY YEARS, REENTERED THIS COUNTRY FROM MEXICO TO SUPPORT HIS SPOUSE DURING MAJOR SURGERY AND IS NEEDED FOR HER CONTINUING SUPPORT; AND WHEREAS, MR.
OLIVER-BRUNO WAS FORCED BY THREAT OF DEPORTATION TO TAKE REFUGE IN A DURHAM CHURCH FOR 11 MONTHS, WAS INDUCED TO LEAVE THAT REFUGE BY THE FALSE PROMISE OF PROGRESS ON HIS PETITION TO REMAIN, WAS ARRESTED WITHOUT WARNING, AND HAS BEEN SENT TO THE NOTORIOUS STEWART DETENTION CENTER IN GEORGIA; AND WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S MORE TO THAT STORY AS WELL NOW. WHEREAS, DURHAM'S CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES, CONGRESSMAN PRICE AND CONGRESSMAN BUTTERFIELD, HAVE WRITTEN IN SUPPORT OF MR. OLIVER-BRUNO AND OTHER LAW-ABIDING IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE BEEN PERSECUTED UNJUSTLY BY IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT; AND WHEREAS, SUCH DENIAL OF HUMAN, CIVIL, AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS RUNS COUNTER TO THE SPIRIT AND PRACTICE OF OUR CITY. NOW, THEREFORE, I, STEPHEN M. SCHEWEL, MAYOR OF DURHAM, NORTH CAROLINA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM DECEMBER 10TH AND DECEMBER 15, 2018, AS “HUMAN RIGHTS DAY AND BILL OF RIGHTS DAY” IN DURHAM, AND URGE ALL RESIDENTS TO JOIN ME AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE DURHAM CITY COUNCIL IN REAFFIRMING OUR SUPPORT OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES IT GUARANTEES TO ALL. WE URGE ALL RESIDENTS OF DURHAM TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO WELCOME IMMIGRANTS, IN PARTICULAR THE MANY CENTRAL AMERICANS WHO HAVE ENDURED LENGTHY AND DIFFICULT JOURNEYS TO COME HERE AFTER FLEEING VIOLENCE IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES.
WITNESS MY HAND AND THE CORPORATE SEAL OF THE CITY OF DURHAM, NORTH CAROLINA, THIS THE 3RD DAY OF DECEMBER, 2018. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> I'D LIKE TO ASK WHOEVER CAME FOR THIS PROCLAMATION TO JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT UP HERE IF YU WOULD. OKAY. I SAW ANOTHER FRIEND ON HIS WAY IN, BUT — >> HERE E HE COMES.
>> OH, HEE HE COMES. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP HERER, ANDY? OKAY. WE'RE FEW BUT DEDICATED. THANK YOU, MAYOR SCHEWEL AND CITY COUNSELORS FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. IT'S ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE HUMAN RIGHTS AND BILL OF RIGHTS DAYS IN THIS TIME OF ASSAULT ON HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS. WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THE CURRENT FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION'S BLATANT DISTAIN FOR HUMAN RIGHTS. WE ALL NEED T DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS IN THESE TIMES. ANOTHER NORTH CAROLINA EXAMPLE IS THE COMPLETE LACK OF OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR STATE'S VERY EXTENSIVE RULE IN THE POST 9/11 TORTURE PROGRAM. NORTH CAROLINA COMISSION OF INQUIRY ON TORTURE SILENTED ON DURHAM'S 2016-17 PROCLAMATIONS COMPLETED ITS REPORT THIS YEAR AND I'VE BEEN INVITED TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO THE COUNCIL TONIGHT.
IT'S RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE A LIST OF ACTIONS LOCAL OFFICIALS CAN TAKE TO INSIST THAT GOVERNOR COOPER AND ATTORNEY GENERAL STOOIN INVESTIGATION JOHNSON COUNTY'S CIA FRONT COMPANIES AND MAKE CERTAIN OUR STATE IS NOT USED AGAIN AS A LAUNCHING PAD FOR TORTURE TAXIS, A THEAT THAT SEEMS LIKELY GIVEN THE POSITIONS TAKEN BY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND NOW WE WILL MOVE TO THE ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY COLLEAGUES, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBERS? >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER FREE MANN. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CONGRATULATE OUR NEWEST SHERIFF AND HIS UPCOMING… I UH JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. >> THANK YOU. HE WAS SWORN IN TODAY, BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY. COUNCIL MEMBER REECE WAS THE MODERATOR AND DID A GREAT JOB, SO, THANK YOU FOR NOTICING THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER FREE MANN, IT WAS A BIG DAY. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE'LL NOW MOVE T PRIORITY ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER. >> THANK YOU. ONE PRIORITY ITEM FROM CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 17, AGREEMENT BETWEEN DURHAM COUNTY UH EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AND THE CITY OF DURHAM FIRE DEPARTMENT, THIS ITEM NEEDS TO BE REFERRED BECOME TO ADMINISTRATION THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU. >> YOU'VE HEARD MANAGER'S PRIORITY ITEM. I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION ON THAT ITEM. BEEN MOVED AND SECOND WE ACCEPT THE MANAGE EAR'S PRIORITY ITEM. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN VOTE. CLOSE THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> NOW MOVE TO MR. CITY ATTORNEY. >> COUPLE PRIORITY ITEMS FOR YOU. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, COOPERATION AREEENT WITH GO TRIANGLE FOR DURHAM ORANGE LITE RAIL TRANSIT REVIEW; THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE TO ARTICLE 3 PARAGRAPH F OF THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT. I UH SENT IN ME E MOW FOR YOU BUT THE ORIGINAL PARAGRAPH INTERPRETATION THAT THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE LITE RAIL CORRIDOR HAD ALREADY BEEN COMPLETE AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
THE REVISION I'VE INCLUDED IN MEMO I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU ADOPT THAT AS YOU'RE TAKING THIS ITEM UP. I'VE GOT PROPOSED LANGUAGE AT THE BOTTOM THAT WOULD TAKE THAT CHANGE INTO ACCOUNT TO CLARIFY WHERE THINGS STAND. THAT'S ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, AND THAT THE CONTRACT THE FOR OFF-STREET PARKING ACCESS REVENUE CONTROL SYSTEM FOR THE CITY'S PARKING FACILITIES.
THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PRIVACY OF THE COLLECTION OF INFORMATION AND SECTION 12 E OF THE PROPOSED CONTRACT, THERE'S GOING TO BE LANGUAGE THAT'S ADDED TO THAT, THAT INCLUDES UNDER NO RIGHTS TO CUSTOMER INFORMATION CONTRACTOR PROHIBIT FROM USING ANY CUSTOMER INFORMATION INCLUDING NAMES, PHONE NUMBERS, ADDRESSES. THIS LANGUAGE HAS BEEN ADD, VEHICLE LICENSE NUMBERS, VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION OR REGISTRATION INFORMATION. THAT'LL BE ADDED TO THAT CONTRACT. I DON'T THINK THAT CHANGE HAS BEEN INCORPORATE INTO THE AGENDA BUT I WOULD POPOSE WHEN YOU TAKE UP THAT ITEM THAT THOSE EDITS BE INCLUDED INTO THAT.
>> DO YOU SUGGEST WE MOVE THAT ITEM A OFF CONSENT AND ADDRESS THAT AT THE END OF THE MEETING? >> THAT WOULD BE FINE TO CLARIFY. >> SO WE'RE GOING TO, I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION NOW ON THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ITEMS. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE MOVE THOSE ITEMS 7 AN 12 OFF OF CONSENT AGENDA AND TAKING THEM UP AT END OF MEETING AS PER CITY ATTORNEY'S PRIORITY ITEMS. MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN THE VOTE? CLOSE THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MADAM CLERK, ANY PRIORITY ITEMS? >> GOOD EVENING. I UH HAVE NO ITEMS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. I AM NOW GOING TO READ THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT BEFORE I READ THE CONSENT AGENDA, JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO DO THIS NOW, WE HAVE A BIG PUBLIC HEARING ITEM COMING UP SHORTLY AFTER I READ AND WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENERAL A DA, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WHO'S PLANNING TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK HAS SIGNED ONE OF THE YELLOW CARDS THAT'S AVAILABLE OVER HERE AT THE CLERK'S DESK. IF YOU'VE NOT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, PLEASE GO AND SIGN ONE OF THOSE CARDS. YOU CAN DO IT WHILE I'M READING ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA IF YOU'D LIKE. THE CONSENT AGENDA CAN BE ADOPTED BY A SINGLE VOTE OF THE COUNCIL.
THESE ARE ITEMS THE COUNCIL HAS PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED IN A WORK SESSION AND WILL BE ADOPTED BY SINGLE VOTE UNLESS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC OR MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL PULLS ONE OF THESE ITEMS FROM AGENDA IN WHICH CASE WE'LL BE TAKING THIS UP AT THE END OF THE MEETING, WHICH TONIGHT I PREDICT WILL BE VERY LATE. [LAUGHTER] CONSENT AGENDA: 1. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MINUTES. 2. BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS ATTENDANCE REPORTS FOR THE PERIOD OF JULY 1, 2017 – JUNE 30, 2018. 3. CASH RECEIPTS PERFORMANCE AUDIT OCTOBER 2018. 4. FY2019-20 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE. 5. RESOLUTION TO RESERVE PUBLIC LAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 6. INTERIM REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH GO TRIANGLE FOR DURHAM-ORANGE LIGHT RAIL TRAIL (DOLRT) REVIEW. ITEM 7 HAS BEEN MOVED OFF CONSENT. 7. COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH GO TRIANGLE FOR DURHAM-ORANGE LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT (DOLRT) REVIEW. 8. CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DURHAM AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF DURHAM FOR THE PROVISION OF TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE SERVICES UNDER THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS (HOPWA) PROGRAM. 9. CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DURHAM AND DURHAM COUNTY FOR THE PROVISION OF HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND RELATED SUPPORTIVE SERVICES UNDER THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS (HOPWA) PROGRAM.
10. NC 751/UNIVERSITY DRIVE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PROJECT SUPPLEMENTAL MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT (EB-5514). 11. EXTENSION OF MUNICIPAL MAINTENANCE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AGREEMENT SCHEDULE C AND SCHEDULE D. ITEM 12 MOVED TO THE END OF THE MEETING, PULLED OFF OF CONSENT AGENDA FOR SMALL LANGUAGE CHANGE. 12. CONTRACT FOR OFF-STREET PARKING ACCESS AND REVENUE CONTROL SYSTEM (PARCS) FOR THE CITY'S PARKING FACILITIES. 13. PARKING FACILITIES SECURITY AND SURVEILLANCE CAMERA EQUIPMENT CONTRACT. 14. CONTRACT WITH J.F. WILERSON CONTRACTING COMPANY, INC. FOR THE BUCHANAN BOULEVARD WATERLINE REPLACEMENT. 15. FY2018-19 CIP BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR CIP CLOSEOUT. GENERAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ORDINANCE, FISCAL YEAR 16. OCTOBER 2018 BID REPORT. ITEM 17 SENT BACK FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. 18. COOPERATIVE GROUP PURCHASE CONTRACT FOR TWO (2) TRUCKS WITH WATER/SEWER INSPECTION SYSTEMS. 19. CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH CADET CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS AT VALLEY SPRINGS PARK. 20. SEVENTH AMENDMENT TO ASSIGNMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE DURHAM ATHLETIC PARK OPERATING AGREEMENT. 21. PROPOSED CONDEMNATION OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4214 FAYETTEVILLE ROAD, DURHAM, NC 27713 (PARCEL #146815), FOR THE FAYETTEVILLE ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. 22. PROPOSED CONDEMNATION OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1011 RIDDLE ROAD, DURHAM, NC 27713 (PARCEL #133904), FOR THE FAYETTEVILLE ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
23. PROPOSED CONDEMNATION OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4111 FAYETTEVILLE ROAD, DURHAM, NC 27713 (PARCEL #133841), FOR THE FAYETTEVILLE ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. 24. HOUSING APPEALS BOARD ANNUAL REPORT FISCAL YEAR 2018. 25. CITIES FOR FINANCIAL EMPOWERMENT FUND INC.'S CITYSTART INITIATIVE. 26. BUCKINGHAM ROAD CULVERT REPLACEMENT – AMENDMENT NO. ONE. 27. TELECOMMUNICATIONS LICENSE WITH CELLCO PARTNERSHIP DBA VERIZON WIRELESS. 28. CONTRACT ST-264 FOR FAYETTEVILLE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WITH CAROLINA SUNROCK, LLC. 29. CONTRACT SD-2019-02 FOR STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS. 30. CONTRACT AMENDMENT NO.7 OF ST-264C WITH KIMLEY-HORN FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO FAYETTEVILLE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. 31. CONTRACT SW-39 FOR UNIVERSITY DRIVE BIKE AND SIDEWALK PROJECT (TIP# EB-5514). 32. CONTRACT SW-39C FOR UNIVERSITY DRIVE BIKE LANES/SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION AND INSPECTIONS (TIP# EB-5514). 33. SUBMISSION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED JUNE 30, 2018. 37. – 42. THESE ITEMS CAN BE FOUND ON THE GENERAL BUSINESS AGENDA – PUBLIC HEARINGS.
I WILL NOW ENTERTAIN MOTION ON CONSENT AGENDA ABSENCE ITEMS 7, 12, AND 17. BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN VOTE. THANK YOU. CLOSE THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE NOW AT ITEM 37. 37. CONSOLIDATED ANNEXATION ITEM FOR RAIL OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE FACILITY (ROMF). THIS IS SA PUBLIC HEARING ITEM AND I WLL ASK A MEMBER OF OUR STAFF TO PLEASE REPORT TO US ON THIS ITEM. >> READY? >> MS. SUNYAK, PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING, THE FOLLOWING PLANNING ZONING CASES HAVE BEEN PROPERLY NOTE TIE FIED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE AND LOCAL LAW AND ARE ON FILE WITH THE PLANNING OFFICE. GOOD EVENING, JAMIE SUNYAK WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. REQUEST FOR UTILITY EXTENSION AGREEMENT, VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, FUP LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT, ZONING MAP CHANGE HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FROM GOTRIANGLE FOR CONTIGUOUS 23.422 ACRE TRACT LOCATED GENERALLY AT 4901 FARRINGTON ROAD. THE ANNEXATION PETITION SEEKS TO BRING 12 PARCELS AND ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG I 40 WHICH IS A TOTAL OF 53.214 ACRES INTO THE EXISTING CITY LIMITS. SUBJECT SITE ABCANT REQUESTING INDUSTRIAL LIGHT WITH DEVELOPMENT PLAN. PARCELS CURRENTLY LOCATED — PARCELS DESIGNATED AS OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL ON FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AN ASSOCIATED REQUEST TO INDUSTRIAL.
IF APPROVED ANNEXATION PETITION, FUP LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND ZONING CHANGE WOULD BE BECOME EFFECTIVE ON DECEMBER 31, 2018. KEY COMMITMENTS ARE LIMITING US TO RAIL OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE FACILITY, PROHIBITING VEHICLE BODY REPAIRS AND PAINT SHOPS, ADDING VEGETATIVE SCREEN ALONG PROPERTY'S WESTERN BOUNDARY, PLACING A BUILDING — PLACING THE BUILDING A A MINIMUM OF 75 FEET FROM FARRINGTON ROAD AND PARKING AT LEAST 30 FEET FROM FARRINGTON ROAD, AIMING EXTERIOR LIGHTING AWAY FROM BOUNDARY ARES. EXISTING WATER AND SEWER MAINS HAVE CAPACITY FOR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT DETERMINES THAT THE PROJECT PROPOSED ANNEXATION WILL HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT SINCE NOT SUBJECT TO TAXATION. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOUND IN STAFF REPORT. PLANNING COMMISSION AT OCTOBER 9TH, 2018, MEETING DID NOT RECOMMEND APPROVE OF THE PROPOSED BY ROAD OF 4-4. SUBSEQUENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APPLICANT OFFERED FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL PROFFERS WHICH THE STAFF HAS REVIEWED AND FOUND TO BE LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE: EVERY GREEN PLANTING SPACED NO MORE THAN 14 LINEAR FEET APART MEASURED CENTER TO CENTER — A PART MEASURED CENTER TO CENTER BE PLANTED BEHIND SCREENING WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. APPLICANT PROVIDE EARTH BERM NO LESS THAN 14 FEET AS INDICATED ON DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IN ADDITION, IT WILL BE NO CLEARING, GRADING, SITE PREPARATION, INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALLATION OR CONSTRUCTION AS SHOWN ON-SITE PLANS FOR THE FACILITY APPROVED BY THE CITY OF DURHAM UNTIL GO TRY IN.
AL HAS SECURED A FULL FUNDING GRANT AGREEMENT FOR THE DURHAM ORANGE LITE RAIL TRANSIT PROJECT. INSPECTIONS WILL TAKE PLACE TO DETERMINE THE NEED FOR MAINTENANCE AND PEST CONTROL. ALL INSPECTIONS WILL CONTINUE MONTHLY UNTIL CONSTRUCTION COMMENCEMENT OR GOTRIANGLE DISPOSAL OF THE PROPERTY IN THE EVENT TE PROJECT DOES NOT SECURE FUNDING. SECURE AN FSGA WHICH STANDS FOR FULL FUNDING GRANT AGREEMENT. REPAIRS OR DEMOLITION OF VACANT BUILDINGS YARD AIR, FIRE HAZARD PREVENTION, SECURITY BUILDINGS, RODENT AND PEST CONTROL AND OTHER SANITARY MEASURES HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE FOLLOWED TO COMPLY WITH PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR OTHER COMMUNITY STANDARDS. GOTRIANGLE MAY HIRE A CONTRACTORER TO PERFORM NEEDED MAINTENANCE SERVICES. CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT OF THE ROMF WILL BE SUBJECT TO APPLICABLE CITY, STATE AND FEDERAL CODE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO DURHAM SECTION 26-23 BE TO MRIMENT NOISE, TRAFFIC, LIGHTING AND IMPACT OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY. STAFF DETERMINES THESE REQUESTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND APPLICABILITY POLICIES AND ORDINANCES.
FOUR MOTIONS REQUIRED FOR THR APPLICATION. FIRST IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO APPROVE MOTION #1: TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE ANNEXING THE "RAIL OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE FACILITY" PROPERTY INTO THE CITY OF DURHAM I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU. >> THANK YO VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT. COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU'VE HEARD THE REPORT FROM STAFF AND I'M GOING TO DECLARE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE OPEN. FIRST I'M GOING ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HEARING NONE, I WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I'M GOING TO PREFACE THIS BY MAKING A FEW COMMENTS MYSELF.
DO YOU HAVE CARDS YOU WANT TO GIVE TO ME? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING JUST SO EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF BE ON THE SAME PAGE AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW PUBLIC HEARINGS GO IN OUR CHAMBERS BECAUSE FOR A LOT OF YOU ALL YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO ONE BEFORE AND SOME OF US HAVE BEEN TO TOO MANY BUT WE'RE VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE NOR ONE. MY GOALS AS MAYOR ARE TO BE FAIR TO BTH SIDES AND TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS HEARD. THOSE ARE MY TWO GOALS, ONLY TWO GOALS.
WE WILL ABIDE BY COUNCIL'S CUSTOMARY RULES AND PROCEDURES AND SO I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED. AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO SO, PLEASE GO TO THE CLERK'S TABLE AND SIGN ONE OF THE YELLOW CARDS. THIS IS IS SA REZONING. WE'RE REQUIRED TO OFFER AN EQUAL AMOUNT O TIME FOR EACH SIDE.
PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS. THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SPEAK HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SIGN UP AS TO WHETHER OVEPROONENT OR OPPONENT. EVERYONE — WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO'VE SIGNED UP. I HAVEN'T GOT EXACT COUNT AT THIS POINT BUT SOMETHING LIKE, UM, 19 PROPONENTS AND ABOUT 50 OPPONENTS, SO ALMOST 70 PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT. SO GIVEN THAT, I'M GOING OFFER A TWO-MINUTE TIME LIMIT TO EVERY SPEAKER. THERE'S A CLOCK AT THE CLERK'S TABLE RIGHT THERE P. IT'LL BE RUNNING WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING AD YOU'LL BE ABLE TO VIEW IT FROM OVER HERE AT THE PODIUM, SO WATCH THAT CLOCK BECAUSE WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, IT IS UP. YOU DO NOT HAVE EXTRA TIME. NO ONE HAS ANY EXTRA TIME BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY'S TIME AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GET EQUAL TIME. THIS TWO-MINUTE LIMIT APPLIES TO THE GO TRIANGLE SPEAKERS AS WELL EVEN THOUGH GOTRIANGLE IS THE APPLICANT TONIGHT.
USUALLY IN OUR ARE REZONING HEARINGS, THE APPLICANT HAS A LOT MORE TIME IN WHICH TO MAKE ITS CASE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE HEARING, BUT GIVEN THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, I THINK THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO PROCEED. I WANT TO MAKE IT DLAER GOTRIANGLE WILL GET QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL WHICH WILL AALLOW IT TO PROVIDE MORE DETAILED INVESTIGATION THAN THE TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER WILL ALLOW. AS ALWAYS, AFTER WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK T COUNCIL WILL HAVE QUESTIONS AN COMMENTS FROM THE SPEAKERS AS NECESSARY, AND WE WILL BE VOTED TONIGHT ON THE REZONING. I ASK SPEAKERS TO BE RESPECTFUL OF OUR TIME.
IF YOU'VE HEARD THE POINT YOU WANT TO MAKE SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE — AND BY THE WAY THIS IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, NOT OUR LAST — IF YOU HEAR POINTS YOU'VE HEAD SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE YOU MAY CERTAINLY DECIDE NOT TO SPEAK TORQUE GIVE UP YOUR TIME OR SPEAK BREFLY WHEN YOUR TIME COMES. THIS HAPPENS OFTEN IN PUBLIC HEARINGS LIKE THIS AND IT MAY WELL HAPPEN TONGHT. MORE IMPORTANT, THOUGH, AND THIS IS REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT I WANT TO MAE, I ASK SPEAKERS TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER, OF EVERYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM, IN THE WORDS THAT YOU USE. WHILE FOLKS AND WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THIS ISSUE, AND EVERYONE'S OPINION IS WELCOME. THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS, RUDE BEHAVIOR, DISRESPECTFUL BEHAVIOR TOWARDS ANYONE.
LET'S STICK TO THE ISSUES. AS I LIKE TO SAY, HARD ON THE ISSUES, SOFT OF THE PEOPLE; LET'S DO THAT TONIGHT, OKAY? WE'RE ALL IN THIS FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY UH; WHATEVER OUR POSITIONS ARE ON THIS REZONING. EVERYONE HERE IS HERE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEIR POINT OF VIEW IS WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I WILL ENDEAVOR MYSELF TO SET THAT TONE.
I A ALSO WANT TO LET YO KNOW IN TERMS OF THE PROCEDURE WE'LL BE USING TONIGHT THAT A GROUP FROM CULP ARBOR HAS REQUESTED THAT THEIR SPEAKERS — NOW 27 OF THEM — BE ABLE TO SPEAK IN ORDER. I'M HAPPY TO GRANT THAT REQUEST AND DO MY BEST TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER GROUP THALSD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR SPEAKERS IN ORDER LET ME KNOW AND I'LL TRY TO ACCOMMODATE. CULP ARBOR ASKED AND SENT ME A LIST OF PEOPLE IN ORDER AND I'M HAPPY TO GRANT THAT REQUEST. I WANT TO EXPLAIN THE CONCEPT OF EQUAL TIME FOR EACH SIDE IN THIS REZONING SO EVERYBODY WILL UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS AS WELL. THIS IS REQUIRED BY OUR RULES. HOW THAT WILL WORK IS THIS: ONE OF THE SIDES — EACH SIDE IN A REZONING HEARING IS REQUIRED BY OUR RULES THAT EACH SIDE GETS THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO IN THIS CASE WE HAVE 50 SPEAKERS FOR ONE SIDE, THAT'S 100 MINUTES. WE HAVE ROUGHLY UH 20 SPEAKERS FROM ANOTHER TIME THAT LEAVES 60 MINUTES FOR THE PROPONENTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE FEWER SPEAKERS THEY CAN ALSO — THEIR SPEAKERS CAN COME AND SPEAK AGAIN THE IF THEY WOULD SO LIKE. AS ALWAYS IN THESE HEARINGS, I'LL ALLOW THE SIDE WITH THE FEWEST MINUTES TO MAKE UP THOSE MINUTES WITH WITH OTHER SPEAKERS OR WITH COMMENTS FROM PREVIOUS SPEAKERS IF ANYONE DESIRES TO SPEAK AGAIN. OF COURSE, IT IS NOT NECESSARY THAT THAT TIME BE IF FILLED. [LAUGHTER] I WILL GIVE THE APPLICANT, GOTRIANGLE FIRST CRACK AT ANY EXTRA TIME SHOULD IT EXIST ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPONENTS. SOUNDS LIKE GIVEN THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, THEY WILL. SO THOSE ARE, I THINK, I HAVE LAID OUT WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE THE RULES OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING IN A WAY I UH HOPE EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND. RURAL NUMBER ONE, WE'RE HERE FOR A CIVIL DISCUSSION OF AN IMPORTANT PUBLIC POLICY QUESTION AND MY COLLEAGUES AND I UH ON THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ENDEAVOR TO MAKE THE WISEST DECISION THAT WE CAN ABOUT THIS QUESTION, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HERE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF ALL THE OTHER – SPEAKERS IN THE ROOM AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM WHO'S NOT SPEAKING TONIGHT.
THE IT'S REALLY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOW I'M GOING BEGIN AS AGAIN AND LET ME JUST REMIND AS SAID EARLIER, OUR RULES CALL FOR THE PROPONENTS TO GO FIRST AS THERE ARE ABOUT 20 SPEAKERS, THEY EACH GET TWO MINUTES. OPPONENTS CAN EXPECT ABOUT 40 MINUTES BEFORE YOU ALL WILL BEGIN IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO OUT IN THE HALL AND A ENJOY YOURSELF, FEEL FREE, BUT BECAUSE ALTHOUGH I'M SURE THAT THE PROPONENTS PRESENTATIONS WILL BE SCINTILLATING AS WILL BE OPPONENTS.
OKAY. I'M GOING TO ASK FIRST IF THERE ARE GOTRIANGLE SPEAKERS? I SEE A COUPLE SIGNED UP. JOHN TOLE AND DAVE CHARTERS. ANY OTHER GOTRIANGLE SPEAKERS HERE? OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO — AFTER THESE TWOSHG I'LL CALL FOLLOWING PEOPLE TO THE PODIUM. WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO D IS LINE UP HERE OVE. I'M GOING CALL AROUND TEN OF YOU TO LINE U OVER HERE TO MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH THE SPEAKERS. FIRST BE JOHN TOLE MAGE, DAVE CHARTERS, MARK AWINSKI, TEDDY FELLOWMACH, DETAILS, LEONDRA, JIM SPARROW, ANTHONY SCOTT, DIANE KATOTTI. MAKE YOUR WAY OVER TO THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST GROUP OF SPEAKERS OF PROPONENTS. AFTER THAT GROUP OF E PROPONENTS, WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT GROUP. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
TWO MINUTES. >> JOHN TOLMAGE INTERIM PROJECT DIRECTOR, 910 VERGIE STREET HERE IN DURHAM. GOOD EVENING. MANY CONCERNED CITIZENS HERE TONIGHT BOTH IN SUPPORT OF AND IN OPPOSITION TO SELECTED SITE FOR LITE RAIL OPERATION FACILITY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR VOICES ARE HEARD. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE WE'VE LISTENED TO CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS OF THE SITE AND IN RESPONSE WE DESIGNED SITE LAY YOUTH TO ADDRESS CONCERNS. BACK IN 2015, FIRST REACHED OUT TO NEIGHBORS OF THE SITE BEFORE SITE SELECTION WAS MADE. OPEN HOUSES, WE LISTENED TO COMMENTS ON ENTIRE PROJECT INCLUDING FIVE SITES WHO WERE CONSIDERED FOR ROMF LOCATION. AFTER THIS SITE WAS SELECTED, WE BEGAN ADDRESSING CONCERNS WE HAD HEARD THROUGH OVER MEETINGS BY REDESIGNING THE SITE LAY YOUTHS TO MINIMIZE IMUH PCTS. FOLLOWING PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER #th, WE REALIZED WE NEED NEW APPROACH THEREONING TO NEIGHBORS. WE'VE HAD FIVE SMALL GROUP MEETINGS WITH NEIGHBORS AND WITH CREEKSIDE A ADMINISTRATORS AND PARENTS.
WE'VE ADDED FOUR NEW TEXT COMMITMENTS. OTHER CONCERNS, NOISE HAS BEEN MENTIONED MOST. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. I'VE INVITED THEIR CHARTERS TO DISCUSS FACTS ABOUT NOISE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU. MR. CHARTERS, NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. >> GOOD EVENING. DAVE CHARTERS, MAAGE EER OF DESIGN AND ENGINEERING.
303 HIGHFIELD AVENUE IN CARRY UH, NORTH CAROLINA. AFTER VARIOUS LISTENING SESSIONS WE'VE HEARD WITH THE COMMUNITY, ASSUMED TO BE ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS. WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS CONCERN WITH FACTS ABOUT REALITY OF NOISE RELATED TO LITE RAIL OPERATIONS FACILITIES. BEFORE COMING TO GOTRIANGLE, I WORKED ON LITE RAIL PROJECTS IN PITTSBURGH, BALTIMORE, NORFOLK AND CLEVELAND ALL OF WHICH HAD OPERATIONS FACILITIES SO I HAVE SOME HIGHER KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WITH THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS. PLEASE NOTE THE MAGNITUDE OF NOISE EMANATING FROM OPERATIONS FACILITY WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE MAGNITUDE OF NOISE EMANATING FROM A GO DURHAM BUS, FOR EXAMPLE. PROJECTED FLOIZ FACILITY WON'T BE ANYTHING LIKE A FIGHTER JET TAKING OFF OR FORGIVEN A LAWN MOWER. NOISE FROM THE OPERATION FACILITY WILL BE LESSENED BEFORE IT REACHES TE COMMUNITY BY THE ROMF BUILDINGS, THEMSELVES, THE EARTH BERM ALONG THE ROMF EDGE, VEGETATIVE BUFFERING, EVEN THE EARTH BERM THAT'S ON THE CULP ARBOR SIDE OF FARRINGTON ROAD, LUBRICATION ON THE CURVED RAILS, ETHS. WHEN I HEARD COMMUNITY CONCERNS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHEEL SQUEAL. E HE DID THAT AND ISSUED A BRIEF MEMO I CAN SHARE WITH COUNCIL IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A COPY BUT IT CONFIRMED INFORMATION WE'RE SHARING.
BEFORE GOING THE FURTHER I WANTED TO ADDRESS CONCERNS WE'VE HEARD FROM MEMBERS OF THE CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL COMMUNITY. THERE WILL BE NO IMPACTS TO THAT SCHOOL AREA. >> THANK YOU. THIRD SPEAKER. >> ONE SECOND, THIS WON'T TAKE FROM YOUR TIME. MR. CHARTERS, WE WOULD LIKE THAT REPORT SO THE IF YOU COULD TAKE COPIES AVAILABLE TO THE CLERK. >> THANK YOU UH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TONIGHT. I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO SAY I SUPPORT THE LIE RAIL. I UH SPEAK IN UNAFFILIATED CAPACITY TONIGHT AND GIVE MY MEASURED SUPPORT FOR THE REZONING FOR THE ROMF. I UH HAVE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND BLACK BOX ENGINEERING THAT OCCUR WITH WITHIN GOTRIANGLE P, KIND OF THING THAT LEFT US WITH GAP THAT WAS FINALLY MITIGATED, BUT REGARDING THE ROMF AND PLANNED LOCATION, I'M WELL AWARE TIMING IS ESSENTIAL TO THAT POINT DUE TO FEDERAL GUIDELINES.
BECAUSE OF GOTRIANGLES DESIGN PROCESS THIS IS THE LOCATION WE HAVE TO SETTLE FOR. IT'S PROXIMITY TO SUBURBAN — ACCORDING TO PUBLIC MEETINGS THERE'S NO MONEY TO MITIGATE RELATIONSHIP TO SURROUNDINGS. THIS SITE IF IT MUST BE HERE — AND WE ALL KNOW IT'S REALLY TOO LATE TO CHANGE THAT DESIGN — MUST ADDRESS THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL AND VISUAL IMPACTS. RIGHT NOW, WE'VE SEEN NO VISUALS REGARDING A BERM OR WALL OR ANY SORT OF TREE BUFFER UH. WE'VE HAD NO REAL INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE ACTUAL ON-SITE PLANNING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND I THINK THAT'S UNFAIR TO THE CITIZENS.
WE CAN SPEAK THESE WORDS BUT WE ACTUALLY NEED VISUALS SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FACE, AND IF THIS ROM THE F MUST BE HERE, I THINK THAT MONEY NEEDS TO BE FOUND IN THIS PROCESS NEEDS TO MOVE AHEAD IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S NOT GOING IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENTAL OR AS PROTECT OF THIS COMMUNITY. THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ACTUALLY LIVE WITH IT THERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I UH HOPE THIS CAN BE A SUCCESSFUL PROCESS GOING FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU. THE TEDDY. >> TEDDY TELAMAC, 2015 A RAFFI. ALL DURHAM CAN MEMBER INSTITUTION HAVE ENDORSED TRANSIT AND WILL SUPPORT THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: ONE, SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN CLOSE PROXIMATE SIMILAR TOY FUTURE TRANSIT. LITE VEIL THE BEST WAY UH TO CONNECT THOSE HUBS WITH JOBS, EDUCATION, AND HEALTH CENTERS. SECONDLY, THE TRIANGLE ADDS MORE THAN 80 RESIDENCE A DAY MAKING IT ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING REGIONS IN THE COUNTRY. NEW PROSPERITY BUT ALSO CONGESTION ON ROADWAYS. A NEW LITE RAIL LINE BETWEEN DOWNTOWN DURHAM AND CHAPEL HILL WILL OFFER CONGESTION-FREE WAY TO TRAVEL. PROVIDE OVER 26,000 TRIPS TO COMMUTERS IN DURHAM AND CHAPEL HILL.
RAIL PROJECT WILL CONNECT THREE MAJOR UNIVERSITIES, THREE FED METHOD CALL AND THREE TOP TEN EMPLOYERS IN THE STATE. ALSO, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LITE RAIL WILL REQUIRE THE CREATION OF THOUSANDS OF NEW JOBS. DURHAM CAN HAS SECURED AN AGREEMENT FROM GO TRY AGE THAT WILL ALL — — SECURE ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY. FINALLY, DURHAM CAN HAS HELPED SEVERAL SMALL GROUP CONVERSATIONS WITH 3,500 PEOPLE IN DURHAM ABOUT ASPIRATIONS FO OUR GREAT CITY. TRANSIT IS ALWAYS AT THE TOP OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM DICK HALES.
>> DICK HALES, 100 BAR CLIFF ROAD IN DURHAM. SPEAKING THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF DURHAM CAN. CAN IS A BROAD BASTED NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS TO COLIST, TRAIN, AND ORGANIZE ACROSS LINES FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD. PRY UH MARRY GOAL IS DEVELOP LOCAL LEADERSHIP AND ORGANIZE CITIZENS TO CHANGE CONDITIONS THAT PROVIDE LOW MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES FROM IMPROVING THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES. 27 CHURCHES, NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION FROM DURHAM ARE MEMBERS OF CAN. CAN MB ORGANIZATIONS PLEDGED ATTENDANCE OF NUMBER OF PERSONS AT TONIGHT'S MEETING FOR THIS IMPORTANT REZONING REQUEST. AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK ALL PERSONS PRESENT TONIGHT WHO ARE SUPPORTING THIS REZONING TO PLEASE STAND. THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED. [APPLAUSE] AT ITS METRO COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK AT ST. PHILIPS CHURCH CAN MEMBERS UNANIMOUSLY UH APPROVED SUPPORTING ROMF FREE ZONING INCLUDING FOR PLANNED LITE RAIL TRANSIT PROJECT, SUBSTANTIAL BENEFITS FOR DURHAM CITIZENS BY REDUCING OVERALL HOUSING TRANSPORTATION COST FOR LOWER INCOME CITIZENS, PLACING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN LOCATIONS NEAR GOOD ACCESS WILL BE ASSURED FOR DESTINATIONS. DETAILED STUDY CONDUCTED OF SEVERAL PROSPECT TIFF ROMF SITES, THIS SITE DETERMINED TO HAVE LEAST NEGATIVE THE IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY.
SUBSTANTIAL EXISTING NOISE IN THE AREA FOR MORE THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND CAR AND TRUCK TRIPS PER DAY ON NEARBY I 40. NOISE FROM THIS PROJECT WILL BE LIMITED. MAINTENANCE BUILDING WILL BE — UM — [INDISCERNIBLE]. >> THANK YOU. BLAKELY. IS MR. BLAKELY HERE? >> WE THOUGHT WE WERE IN ORDER BACK THERE. >> I'VE OFFERED THE OTHER SIDE TO BE IN ORDER SO FEEL FREE, WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? >> THAT'S FINE. MAYOR SCHEWEL, PRO TEM JOHNSON, MADAM CLERK, GOOD EVENING, BLAKELY AND I ON 400 MAHONNEY STREET AND I'M HERE TO READ STATEMENT ON BEHLF O PEOPLE'S ALLIANCE. SUPPORTS REZONING FOR THE RAIL OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE FACILITY WHICH DIRECTLY AFFECTS LITE RAIL PRODUCT. WE ASK APPROVAL AT YOUR MEETING. SUPPORTS LITE RAIL TRANSIT AND PROMISE TO KEEP PROGRESSIVE ECONOMIC GROWTH IN OUR REGION. ALSO SUPPORTED MANY INTERIM DECISIONS NEEDED BY THE CITY AN COUNTY OFFICIALS TO KEEP THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.
OUR SUPPORT FOR REZONING SUPPORT LONG-STANDING POSITION. WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF GOTRIANGLE TO ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC, COMMITMENT TO ENHANCE NEARBY ROADWARES BY WIDENING FARRINGTON ROAD AS WELL AS OTHER COMMITMENTS MADE IN DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE ANALYSIS AND INFORMATION SHARED ADDRESSING OTHER CONCERNS SUCH AS NOISE AND LITE, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND STORMWATER RUNOFF. SUPPORT ALSO DUE TO TWO-YEAR ANALYSIS CONFIRMING LOCATION AT LEAST DAMAGING LOCATION. WE KNOW THIS SITE OFFERS BEST LOCATION FOR BUFFERS AND MITIGATION NEEDED TO MINIMIZE POTENTIAL IMPACTS. DURHAM PEOPLE ALLIANCE, 1,400 MEMBERS REPRESENTING DURHAM COMMUNITY. TO MAKE THIS VISION AREALITY WE ADVOCATE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CLEAN ALIGNMENT AND QUALITY AFFORDABLE TRANSPORTATION. LITE RAIL SPECIFICALLY LINK THE WEIGHT TO BE GIVEN THIRDS OF ALL PERMANENT UH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THREE MAJOR UNIVERSITIES, UNIVERSITIES AND MAJOR HOSPITALS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> I'M SORRY VI TO CUT PEOPLE OFF, REALLY TRYING TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY SO EXPECT THE SAME EVIL TREATMENT. JIM. >> JIM SAVANA, 1115 WOOD BURN ROAD HERE SPEAKING ON COALITION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AN TRANSIT WHICH IS AN ADVOCATE FOR EXPANDED HOUSING PARTICULARLY IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO LITE RAIL AN SUPPORT EACH OTHER IN CRITICAL WAY.
RESOLUTION WAS PASSED ON NOVEMBER 15TH, SHARED WITH COUNCIL. KEY POINTS ALTHOUGH MANY MADE THEN OTHER COMMENTS. THIS IS AS WE'VE HEARD TRANSIT HELPS IN SO MANY WAYS. IT'S NECESSARY FACILITY THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED SITE SINCE 2016. IT IS CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING TO REDUCE IMPACT AND WE'VE HEARD THOSE DESCRIBED. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS USE, THIS APPROVAL COULD ONLY BE EXTENDED TO LITE RAIL FACLITY, COULD NOT BE USED FOR ANY OTHER INDUSTRIAL PRPOSE WITHOUT A NEW REZONING PROCESS. THE ROM SFSHGS NOT A NOISY, DISRUPTIVE FACTORY. THE OPPONENTS OF ROMF HAVE CREATED A MONSTER IN THEIR CRITICISM BUT IT'S A MYTH. IT WILL BE AN EXTENDED OFFICE BUILD WITH SPACE FOR STAFF TO OPERATE THE SYSTEM AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE AND ARE REPAIR CENTER. WE'VE HEARD TEIR LIMITS ON WHAT KINDS OF REPAIRS CAN BE DONE P. THE DISTANCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE WILL HELP PREVENT INTRUSION.
THERE ARE ONLY NINE HOUSES THAT ARE WITHIN TWO HUNDRED FEET OF THE STRUCTURE. THE REST ARE MUCH FARTHER BACK. NO IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL. IT IS A THIRD OF THE MILE AS THE CROW FLIES FROM THE SITE OF THE STRUCTURE. AND THE BENEFITS GREATLY OUTWEIGH THE SITE DISADVANTAGES. WE URGE COUNCIL TO MAKE THIS IMPORTANT [INDISCERNIBLE] THAT WILL BENEFIT DURHAM AND NOT HARM NEARBY RESIDENCE. >> ANTHONY SCOTT. >> AREN'T ANY SCOOT, 330 EAST MAIN STREET HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF DURHAM HOUSING AUTHORITY. I SUPPORT THE DURHAM ORANGE LITE RAIL. WE SEE THE LITE RAIL AS INTEGRAL PART TO THE FUTURE OF OUR REDEVELOPMENT GOALS WITH RESPECT TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
WE SEE COUPLE OF THINGS IN PARTICULAR, ARTERY TO AVAILABLE JOB CENTERS. PROXIMITY OF LITE RAL STATION TO HOUSING SITES WILL TRANSFORM PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITY. OVERHALF OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING SITE ARE WITHIN A TEN-MINUTE WALK TO THE STATION. SEVEN OUT OF TEN OF OUR — EXCUSE ME, SEVEN OUT OF TEN OF OUR SITES ARE WITHIN ONE MILE AND 80% OF OUR PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITIES ARE WITHIN TWO MILES OF THE STOP. TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT TH DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY, 447 UNITS ARE LOCATED ON 30 ACRES IN THE DOWNTOWN YEAR. ANOTHER 20 ACRES OF VACANT LAND ON FAYETTEVILLE SITE APPROXIMATELY WE'LL LOOK TO INCREASE AVAILABLE MIXED INCOME UNITS TO APPROXIMATELY TWO THOUSAND UNITS OR POSSIBLY MORE OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
EACH OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE A MERE TEN-MINUTE WALK FROM A LITE RAIL STATION. THIS IS TEN MINUTES FROM QUICK CONNECTION TO THE ARTERIES OF JOBS, HEALTH CARE, AND EDUCATION THAT THE LITE RAIL SERVES DIRECTLY. LITE RAIL PROJECT PROVIDES EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE MEANINGFUL DESIGN. ENHANCE THE RICHNESS OF DURHAM. >> THANK YOU. BEFORE I CALL NEXT SPEAKER, I'M GOING TO ASK IF THE OTHER PROPONENTS COULD LINE UP OVER HERE TO MY RIGHT AS WELL. DANIEL JEWELL, DJ SIBERAMON, JONATHAN, CHRIS SELLBY, SUE HUNTER, KEVIN PREMIS, ERIC PLOW, AND WIB GULLY. KELLY RILEY HAS SIGNED UP AS EITHER PROPONENT OR OPPONENT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO — >> OPPONENT. >> IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND LET ME KNOW. I'LL GET YOU IN NEXT GROUP. AFTER DIANE WE'LL HAVE JN JOULE, DJ, JONATHAN, CHRIS, SUE HUNTER, KEVIN PREMIS, ERIC PLOW, AND WIB GULLY. BEFORE YOU GET STARTED IT'S CUSTOMARY TO WELCOME OUR FORMER MEMBERS BACK INTO THIS CHAMBERS.
GREAT TO SEE YOU BACK. >> THANK YOU. >> HOPE YOU HAVE GOOD MEMBER RIS OF US. >> IT'S ALWAYS A PEASURE TO BE HERE. I'M DIE UH YEAH KA TOY, 4147 DEEP WOODS CIRCLE. I LIVE IF SOUTHWESTERN DURHAM AND KNOW THE AREA OF THE PROPOSED REZONING WELL. I STRONGLY SUPPORT LITE RAIL PROJECT AND ENCOURAGE TO YOU UH SUPPORT THIS.
WHILE I SERVED ON THE DURHAM CITY COUNCIL, WE REVIEWED AND VISITED POSSIBLE RAIL OPERATION OF THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY THOUGHT DURHAM. I BELIEVE THIS PROPOSED LOW KAG IS LOCATION IS MOST APPROPRIATE. I VISITED THE CHARLOTTE AS HAS MANY OF YOU. IT'S SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND SURPRISINGLY QUIET OUTSIDE. THIS IS A LARGE SITE AS ROUGHLY 23 ACRES AND ALLOWS FOR SIGNIFICANT BUFFERING AND MITIGATION EFFORTS TO ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS. THE REZONING DEVELOPMENT PLAN INCLUDES SIGNIFICANT COMMITTED ELEMENTS INCLUDED SHIELDED LIGHTING, ADDITIONAL BERM, RESTRICTIONS ON PAINT AND BODY WORK. THE ROMF ALSO WILL GENERATE LESS TRAFFIC THAN OTHER LAND USES THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THE SITE UNDER EXISTING COMMERCIAL/OFFICE DESIGNATION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. I URGE TO YOU VOTE TO SUPPORT THE LAND USE CHANGE AND REZONING THIS EVENING. THANK YOU ALL AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU.
DANIEL JEWELL. >> DANIEL JEWELL, 1025 GLORIA AVENUE WHICH IS JUST 300 YARDS FROM THE PROPOSED BUCHANAN LITE RAIL STATION AND IT CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH. LICENSED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT USEFULLY FRONT OF YOU REPRESENTING AN APPLICANT IN ZONING CASE. TONIGHT THE I'M HERE A A CITIZEN STRONGLY URGING YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSAL. I AM PUBLICLY ON RECORD BEING CONCERNED WITH SOME SPECIFIC DESIGN ISSUE OF THE LITE RAIL SYSTEM UP AND DOWN THE LINE, BUT I'M SUE THAT AS ALL PARTIES COME TOGETHER WE CAN HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION AND WORK THOSE DETAILS OUT. THAT'S WHAT WE IN DURHAM DO BEST, AND WE NEED THIS FOR THE FUTURE GROWTH FOR DECADES TO COME. I HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIARITY WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEIGHBORS ASKED A GROUP OF MINE 20 YEARS AGO TO START LOOKING AT HOW TO PLAN FOR THIS PART OF TOWN KNOWING THAT THE LITE RAIL SYSTEM HAD BEEN DESIGNATED AS MUCH AS 20 YEARS AGO. SUBSEQUENTLY, UH I WORKED ON THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND SITE PLAN FOR CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UH I WORKED ON THE REZONING OF CULP P ARBOR P. IRONICALLY AT THE TIME WE MADE THE CASE THAT CULP ARBOR SHOULD HAVE HIGHER DENSITY BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY OF THE LITE RAIL STATION.
THE CAN CORRIDOR WAS DESIGNATED A LONG TIME AGO. THESE PROJECTS HAPPENED AFTER IT WAS DEIGNATED. PERHAPS MOST SIGNIFICANTLY ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, I WAS ASKED TO REZONE A PIECE OF PROPERTY ABOUT A HALF MILE SOUTH OF HERE SO FOR LANDING OF HELICOPTER. THE BACKGROUND NOISE OF I 40 WAS JUST AS LOUD AT HELICOPTER WAS. ONCE EVERY GENERATION, WE NEED TO MAKE A DIFFICULT DECISION FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. KEEP IN MIND THAT IF YOU APPROVE THIS ZONING TONIGHT AND LITE RAIL DOES NOT HAPPEN, NOTHING ELSE CAN HAPPEN ON TIS PROPERTY, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN. THANK YOU. >> THNK YOU. BJ SAGAMON. >> BJ SAGOMAN, I LIVE AT 200 HIGH STREET IN CARRBORO. I'M ALSO A FACULTY MEMBER AFTER NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY. I'M ALSO ASED TO SERVE ON AS A MEMBER OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD OVER IN CARRBORO. ISSUES IMPORTANT WE'RE DISCUSSING. WHAT I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT AND HAVE FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW THAT LITE RAIL IS A NECESSARYING THING FOR THE TRIANGLE.
NECESSARY THING TO MOVE US FORWARD AND ALO TO MAKE ALLOW FOR COMMUNITY HAVE ACCESS IN A WAY THAT IS HINDERS RIGHT NOW. WE WANT TO OPEN TRIANGLE UP SO THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FAIR TRANSIT CAN BE POSSIBLE. I WANT MY STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO DUKE UNIVERSITY AND TO UNC CHAPEL HILL AND TO THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US AND NOT BE RESTRICTED TO THEIR BUBBLE OF NC STUDENTS. I SEE THIS AS A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT STEP TOWARDS IMPROVING OUR COMMUNITY AND UNIFYING IT. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THINKING ABOUT AND HOPE THIS MOVES FORWARD QUICKLY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. JONATHAN OSAY. >> JONATHAN OSAY, 713 KENT STREET. I'M RECENT DUKE GRAD AND ALSO WORKED IN [INDISCERNIBLE] AND ALSO VOLUNTEERED IN MANY DIFFERENT CAPACITIES AND AYE JUST BEEN I'D LIKE ENOUGH TO STAY BACK THIS COMMUNITY AND BEEN ABLE TO SEE THROUGH MY OWN EXPERIENCES A AS SOMEBODY WHO TAKES TRAN PORT, SPEAK TO THE LACK OF ACCESS AND AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES TO EVEN ACCESS PLACES.
THE REZONING EFFORTS SHOULD LEAN TOWARDS LITE RAIL. EVEN TO ME AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ALSO USE TRAS IMPORTANT AS WELL. JUST BEING BACK TO I WAS TRYING TO LAND A TARGET EVEN FROM WORK. I GET ON THE BUS, TAKES ME 30 MINUTES TO GET TO THE PLACE I NEED TO GO AND I JUST DROPPING THINGS OFF. BACK 30 MORE MINUTES. HOUR OF MY DAY HAS BEEN LOST IN TRANSIT FOR A SIMPLE DROP-OFF AT TARGET. I'M SOMEBODY WHO IS WORKING ACTIVELY IN COMMUNITY AND I LIKE TO BE ON THE BUS TO SEE FOLKS, EVERYTHING, BUT THAT'S NOT A FEASIBLE THING YOU DO WHEN IT'S 9-5 WORKDAY.
ON TOP OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE ALSO USING IT WHO ARE MEMBERS LINKED TO ORGANIZATIONS I'M WORKING WITH WHO STRUGGLE WITH ACCESS WHEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT 30 MINUTES TO GET TO THAT BUS THEN YOU MISS THAT BUS BECAUSE OF ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES SOMEBODY MAY HVE AND CAUSE A LONGERER SORT OF TRANSIT FOR THE FWOUS GO BACK TO DUHAM STATION AND THEN EVENTUALLY WAIT EXTRA 30 MINUTES AND AFTER FIVE AN EXTRA HOUR AND AMOUNT OF TIME AFTER TRANSIT, SOMEBODY LEADS US TO MAYBE LATENESS AT WORK AND DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE REZONING EFFORTS WILL BEST LEADS TOWARD LITE RAIL PROJECT, YEAH. >> THANK YOU. CHRIS SELLBY. >> DR. SELLBY, 138 CELESTE CIRCLE IN EAST WOORD PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. EASTWOOD PARK IS TO THE SOUTH. CHAPEL ONE DEVELOPMENT IS HIGHER DENSITY DUE TO GUY DPRANS PLANNING COMMISSION WHO NOTED NEED FOR HIGHER DENSE TO SUPPORT LITE RAIL.
TWO STORY HOMES NOW PACKED IN FEET BEHIND MANY OF OUR PROPERTIES. OUT OF CHARACTER AND HIGHER DENSITY BRINGS MORE TRAFFIC. NEIGHBORHOOD IS IS NOW IN THE LEIGH VILLAGE COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD TIER. SACRIFICES SUCH AS THESE ARE REASONABLE FOR US AND FOR OTHERS LIVING NEAR RAIL STATIONS CONSIDERING IMPROVEMENTS THAT RAIL WILL BRING. FURTHERMORE, CERTAIN ISSUES MAY BE MITIGATED OR MAY NOT BE REALLY SIGNIFICANT.
FOR EXAMPLE, I PLANTED HOLLIES THAT WILL HIDE TALL HOMES BUILT CLOSE BEHIND ME AND FLOIZ RAIL LINE PASSING WILL LIKELY BE MODEST COMPARED TO HIGHWAY TRAFFIC. I FIND THE ROMF TO BE FAVORABLY LOCATED AND GOOD USE. PLANNING COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING FOR CONSTITUENTS COMPLAINED THAT THE A PLANNED ROMF BUILDING IS — GOTRIANGLE COMMENTED GLASS IS COST EFFECTIVE. I FEEL THIS WILL ENRICH. >> SUE HUNTER. >> SUE HUNTER, 607 ROCK CREEK ROAD IN CHAPEL HILL. FORMER DURHAM RESIDENT. VOTED FOR THE TRANSIT TAX. CHRIS' NEIGHBOR FOR TEN YEARS. LIVED IN THE AREA WHERE THE PROPOSED ROMF SITE IS. FOLLOWING DEVELOPMENT OF THE LITE RAIL AND ATTENDING MEETINGS FOR OVER TEN YEARS. HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE REZONE REQUESTING. SYMPATHETIC TO THE PEOPLE [INDISCERNIBLE] I LIVED THERE FOR TEN YEARS AND BEEN IN THE ROOM BEFORE TO ADVOCATE FOR MY UH NEIGHBORHOOD. I DO BELIEVE GOTRIANGLE HAS DONE DUE DILIGENCE, HEARD CONCERNS OF NEIGHBORS AND MADE MODIFICATION TOSS THE DESIGN.
[INDISCERNIBLE] PROJECT IS IMPORTANT SO NOT REITERATE. I WANTED TO OFFER NON-SCIENTIFIC OPINION AS FORMER RESIDENT. I UH DISAGREE THE AREA IS QUIET. I LIVED THERE FOR TEN YEARS. LONG WALKS DEEP INTO THE WOODS AND CULD ALSO HEAR SUND OF THE HIGHWAY NO MATTER HOW FAR AWAY I WAS. I ALSO CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT NOISE WHEN I BECAME A PARENT. SITTING UP FOR HOURS TRYING TO SOOTHE CHILDREN, I REALIZED HOW LOUD IT WAS, THE MOTORCYCLES AND TRUCKS GOING OVER BUMPS.
DIDN'T PREVENT ME FROM GOING BACK TO SLEEP AS SOON AS I COULD BUT THERE ARE SOUNDS THAT SEEM VERY LOUD BUT THEY WOULDN'T BOTHER YOUS INIALLY IF YOU'RE ASLEEP AND WON'T PREVENT YOU FROM GOING BACK TO SLEEP IF YOU WAKE UP. MY OPINION. APPROVE REZONING REQUEST TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> KEVIN PREMIS. >> KEVIN PREMIS, 3703 KILL GO DRIVE, DURHAM. >> I WILL MAKE REFERENCE TO SOME ORGANIZATIONS. STEERING COMMITTEE FOR PARTNERSHIP FOR HEALTHY DURHAM AND EVERY THREE YEARS WITH WE DO COMMUNITY HEALTH ASSESSMENT AND ASK WHAT DO THEY FEEL IS IMPORTANT. AMONG THOSE THREE IS LINKED TO THIS PROJECT, ACCESS TO CARE, ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND ALSO FOOD ACCESS. I WANT TO SHARE BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME FOLKS ARE GOING TO DISPROPORTIONATELY SACRIFICE FOR THIS PROJECT. WE'RE ASKING EVERYONE TO SACRIFICE FOR MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE. I GOT A CHANCE TO VISIT [INDISCERNIBLE] THE OTHER WEEK AND TO SEE MARTA WHICH IS THEIR TRAFFIC PROGRAM AND THEY HAVE MARTA MARK WHERE IS YOU CAN HAVE FRESH ACCESS TO FRESH FOODS ON WEEKLY BASIS.
NOT JUST A MATTER OF SAYING WE WANT TO HAVE TRANSIT, ITS A MATTER OF LOTS OF FOLKS WHO CAN'T MAKE IT TO THESE MEETINGS, WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE DYNAMICS THAT GO INTO PUBLIC DECISIONS WHO CAN'T SPEAK AND MAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO ALSO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND TO FOOD ACCESS. MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY UH TO SACRIFICE AND IT'S DISPROPORTIONATE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT. WE UNDERSTAND CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE A DECISION AND I SUPPORT YOU. >> NOW HEAR FROM ERIC PLOW. SORRY. DID I MISS YOU? I'LL GET YOU NEXT. SORRY. >> ERIC PLOW, 5 MID STREAM COURT, CLOSE TO WHERE THIS PLACE IS SUPPOSED TO BE LOCATED. [INDISCERNIBLE] A LOT FROM A LOT OF NEIGHBORS WHO ARE TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT. FEW YEARS AGO THEY TRIED TO TAKE AWAY UH MY PROPERTY RIGHTS AND REQUIRED LEGAL FIGHTING ON MY PART AND IT WAS NOT A FUN EXPERIENCE.
GUARANTEE THAT IF YOU DON'T GRANT THEIR WISHES THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SUE YOU ALSO. I HOPE YOU THE COURAGE TO WORK FOR THE GOOD OF EVERYONE IN THE AREA, NOT JUST FEW NEIGHBORS. THANKING YOU. >> THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE YOUR NAME, COULD YOU TELL ME YOUR NAME? >> SHANA, SIGNED UP LATE. I AM RESIDENT OF SOUTHWEST DURHAM, 1707 VALUE RUN. LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY I CAN TAKE A LITE RAIL TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS INSTEAD OF DRIVING. [INDISCERNIBLE]. WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS THREATENING TO DELAY PUBLIC PROJECT. THIS IS A STORY REPEATED DECADES. DISPROPORTIONATELY FACE CONSEQUENCES OF A LACK OF PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN INSTRA SFRAUK CHUR.
WHITE FROM CORRIDOR LED TO DESOLATION IN CENTRAL DURHAM. SOUTHWEST DURHAM PRODUCT OF RAULTING SPRAWL. NOW CITY IS BECOMING RICHER AND WHITER SOME PEOPLE REALIZING NEED FOR BETTER TRANSPORTATION. MAKE NO MISTAKE, POOR PEOPLE OF COLOR WILL SEE GREATEST BENEFITS FROM THESE IMPROVED SERVICES FOR THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WALK, BIKE, OR BUS EVERYWHERE. THIS LITE RAIL WILL GREATLY BENEFIT DOWNTOWN DURHAM BUT RESIDENCE OF THE CITY WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS PROJECT THE MOST ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO TAKE AN HOUR-LONG BUS RIDE UH TO WORK BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD CAR. . THE SITE SELECTED IS LEAST ENVIRONMENTALLY DAMAGING SITE, ALSO MEANS LEAST EXPENSIVE. DURHAM ALREADY INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLAR AND DELAY WOULD BE DEVASTATING. OPPONENT IN ARTICLE IN HERALD SON WAS QUOTED AS SAYING DURHAM HAS PLENTY THE OF INDUSTRIAL ZONE AND THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM FOR A REASON. WHERE ARE DURHAM'S INDUSTRIAL ZONES? IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS IN EAST DURHAM.
SMALL GROUP OF MOSTLY WHITE FOLKS MANAGE TO SUCCEED IN OBSTRUCTING THIS PROJECT, DURHAM HAS MUCH BIGGER PROBLEMS. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ASK YOURSELVES WHETHER THIS CITY WILL BE BUILT EQUITABLY OR SEGREGATIONIST POLICIES AND PLEASE VOTE FOR REZONING. THANK YOU. >> MR. GULLY, WELCOME. DO YOU WANT TO PRESIDE AT THIS MEETING? >> NO, SIR. THANK YOU. GULLY, 4803 MONTH VEIL DRIVE, DURHAM. I'M GING TO TAKE YOU UP ON YOUR SUGGESTION TO USE LESS OF MY TIME. WITH REGARD TO REZONING FOR YOU A LOT OF GOOD POINTS BEEN MADE P. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADD TO THAT. YOU ALL WILL KNOW EVERYTHING I'M GOING TO SAY BEFORE I SAY IT. YOUR CLEAR THE VOTE TONIGHT IS NOT WHETHER YOU LIKE IT BUT WHETHER REZONING APPLICATION MEETING REQUIREMENTS IN DURHAM FOR THAT TO BE CONSIDERED AND APPROVED OR NOT.
TWO THINGS OCCURRED TO ME THAT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT. FOLKS YOU'VE HEARD FROM JUST NOW ARE INDIVIDUALS BUT REPRESENT SOME WONDERFUL PARTS OF DURHAM LIKE DURHAM CAN, DURHAM HOUSING AUTHORITY, DURHAM PEOPLE'S ALLIANCE, COALITION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AN TRANSIT. ORGANIZATION THAT IS HAVE VOICE FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF DURHAM RESIDENCE ACROSS THIS COMMUNITY AND THOSE ARE FOLKS HERE TONIGHT WITH SPOKES PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THIS. THE OTHER THING REALLY IS A PERSONAL HOPE. LIKE TO THINK WE'LL HAVE NUM U ROUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A VARIETY OF ISSUES BUT AT END OF THE DAY, PERHAPS NOT JUST A LOT OF HEAT BUT LIGHT WILL COME FROM IT AND GREATER UNDERSTANDING AND COMPASSION ON ALL SIDES AND CERTAINLY HOPE THAT'S A PART OF THE OUTCOME TONIGHT.
MORE ACCURACY IN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT. YIELD MY REMAINING TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP NOW AS PROPONENTS OF THIS REZONING WHO I'VE NOT HEARD FROM? ANYONE NELS THIS ROOM WHO HAS SIGNED UP AS PROPONENT OF THE REZONING THAT I'VE NOT HEARD FROM? WE'LL NOW MOVE TO OPPONENTS. I'LL CALL NAMES AND IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND MOVING TO THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM. THANK YOU. AS I CALL YOUR NAME, I'M GOING TO BEGIN WITH DAVID KOCHETO, KRISTIN GONEZOLIAN, MARIANNE STRAND, THEN MOVE INTO THE FIRST SPEAKERS FROM THE GROUP WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN ORDER CALLING RUTH ANN MCKNNEY, D.R. HALF MANN, KATHY ABER NAH THINK, JOHN ICOMANEDAS, JEFF PRATER, RAY WEST. IF YOU ALL COULD MAKE YOUR WAY OVER TO THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
P ANYONE WHO CANNOT STAND, KEEP YOUR SEAT AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE, EACH SPEAKER HAS TWO MINUTES, AND YOU HAVE CLOCK OVER HERE. DAVID COCHETO, ARE YOU HERE? >> DAVID IS NOT HEE, HIS WIFE IS ILL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SORRY TO HEAR THAT. >> SECOND SPEAKER, KRISTEN GONEZOLEAN. >> GOOD EVENING. 5103 STOCKTON WAY. . MOMMY TO FOUR CHILDREN. ATTENDED CREEKSIDE ELEMENT OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. MEMBER OF THE CREEKSIDE PTA AND TWO OF MY CHILDREN ARE STILL ATTENDING CREEKSIDE. MY FAMILY ALSO RESIDES IN AN IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE HERE AS LAST CHANCE TO SPEAK UP BEFORE SIGNIFICANT VOTE BEFORE THE COUNCIL. HOWEVER, NO ONE GAVE US WARNING OF THE GRAVITY OF THE DECISIONS UNTIL JUST BEORE THIS PAST THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY. GOTRIANGLE AS NOT REACHED OUT TO CREEKSIDE OR PARENTS IN TIMELY WAY TO ALLOW US TO CONTEMPLATE THE IMPACT AND PROXIMITY OF OUR SCHOOL TO THIS.
WE NEED COMMUNITY I WITH INFORMATION OR COMMUNICATION — WE NEED COMMUNICATION WITH INFORMATION AND REASSURANCE ON HOW THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON CHILDREN WILL BE MITIGATED. I WILL LIST OF CONCERNS I'VE OUTLINED IN BULLET FORMAT. CREEKSIDE IS FOCUSED ONE TITLE SCHOOL. CREEKSIDE PARENTS AND FAMILIES WITH OVER NINE HUNDRED CHILDREN WERE NOT NOTIFIED UNTIL RECENTLY. MANY CHILDREN ARE BILINGUAL WITH PARENTS THAT NEED TANCE LAY THE TORS TO UNDERSTAND. TRANSLATORS. THIS ROMF IS COMING INTO AN A ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN ESTABLISHED SCHOOL. THESE IMPORTANT CONCERNS NEED TIME WITH CLEAR COMMUNICATION FOR ADEQUATE COMMUNICATION AND INPUT. GOTRIANGLE KNOWS LARGE NUMBER OF ENROLLMENT AT CREEKSIDE AND CHOSE TO IGNORE ROF IMPACTS. THROWING PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, DETAILS WERE GENERAL AND SCARCE ABOUT RELATION TO CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY. AT MEETING FOR CREEKSIDE PARENTS — >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH NOW MARIANNE STRAND. [APPLAUSE] >> 108 PENO COURT IN CULP ARBOR. HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY E HUSBAND WHO COULD NOT BE HERE. THIS IS HIGHLY CHARGED POLITICAL TIME IN DURHAM. PEOPLE HAVE STRONG FEELINGS P. GOTRIANGLE L AS MADE IT CLEAR THAT A NO VOTE ON THE REZONING QUESTION E IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD AMOUNT TO A NO VOTE TO THE LITE RAIL ITSELF BECAUSE IT WOULD KILL NEEDED STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING. THIS REZONING HEARING HAS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PURPOSE. IT CAN BE ABOUT APPROVING REZONING BECAUSE SITE WAS ALREADY SELECTED RIGHT OR WRONG YEARS AGO.
THIS IS SAY BOUT WHETHER GOTRIANGLES PROPOSED PROJECT FITS WITH EXISTING DEVELOPMENT; WHETHER THE PARCEL IS BIG ENOUGH TO HAND IT WILL ROMF AND STLL FIT IN THE AREA, WHETHER ANYONE IS ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY IT, WHETHER IT'S CONSISTENT WIH YOUR OWN POLICIES AND PLANS THAT WE'VE RELIED ON. BEFORE YOU VOTE TONIGHT I ASK YOU SEARCH YOUR HEARTS AND BE SURE YOU CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS DISPASSIONATELY WITHOUT FEELING PRESSURE OF GOTRIANGLE'S NEED FO FEDERAL FUNDING, CLOUGD JUDGMENTS AND WITHOUT BEING BURDENED THAT THEY'VE PICKED A BID LOCATION. I UH — REMAIL MY HUSBAND RECEIVED FROM MAYOR EXACTLY ONE YEAR AGO. [QUOTING E-MAIL]. MR. MAYOR WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE AN HONORABLE PERSON, I ASK YOU TO RECUSE YORSELF FROM VOTING TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] RUTH ANN MCKINNEY. >> RUTH ANN MCKINNEY, 6139 NIAGARA DRIVE IN CULP ARBOR, COMMUNITY OF SENIORS THAT LIVES DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS SITE. . TONIGHT'S HEARING IS NT ABOUT THE FUTURE OF MASS TRANSIT IN DURHAM. THIS IS A REZONING HEARING AS YOU'VE HEARD THE MAYOR SAY. ONLY QUESTION BEFORE YOU IS WHETHER GO TRANSIT'S PROJECT AS IT IS PRESENTLY DRAWN CAN RATIONALLY BE DETERMINED TO SUPPORT REZONING, CAN IT SUPPORT THE CHANGE IN THIS LAND IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD GIVEN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ALREADY THERE? THE PROJECT WILL BE DIRECTLY ADPROSZ A SENIOR CENTER WITH 120 HOMES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE RESTRICTED TO SELL THEIR GNOME THE FUTURE INTO PERPETUITY ONLY TO SENIORS WITHIN A STONE'S THROE OF THIS SITE. SIMILARLY, IT'S DOWN THE ROAD FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITHIN SITE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S A TITLE ONE SCHOOL WITH OVER NINE HUNDRED STUDENTS. I'D LIKE A SHOW OF HANDS FROM PEOPLE HERE FRM THOSE GROUPS AND ORES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE SUPPORTING US. THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE IMPACTED BY THIS AND I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION.
THE ISSUE HERE IS SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED. WE'RE ASKING TOU YOU TO LOOK WITH AN OPEN EYE AND FRESH MIND AT THE REALITY OF WHO IS BEING IMPACTED BY THIS. AGING SENIORS AND SCHOOL CHILDREN. YOU'RE NOT GETTING ALL THE FACTS FROM GOTRIANGLE. IT'S A GOOD COMPANY BUT THEY'RE MARKETING THE PROJECT AND THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY'VE MARKETED. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO LISTEN TO THE FACTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT. THIS GROUP HAS MET FOR FOUR WEEKS WITH GOTRIANGLE AND STAFF, WE'VE TRIED DILIGENTLY TO MITIGATE THE PROJECT.
EVERY SUGGESTION W'VE MADE THEY'VE LISTENED TO AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED. THE SITE IS TOO SMALL IS WHAT THEY TELL US AND THE PROJECT PLAN IS TOO FAR DOWN THE PIPELINE, S THEY CAN'T REDRAW IT. SO IF YOU WERE HOPING TO VOTE YES, HOPES THAT WE'LL CONTINUE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND FIND SOLUTIONS, IT WON'T WORK. >> THANK UH YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> D.R. HOF MANN. THANK YOU FOR HOSTING ME RECENTLY, I UH ENJOYED IT VERY MUCH.
>> 211 PINO COURT, CURRENT PRESIDENT OF OUR COA IN CULP ARBOR. FIRM BELIEVER THAT IF YOU THINK YOU'RE OBJECTING TO SOMETHING, GET THE FACTS BEFORE CLOSING YOUR MIND. SO I DUG IN. I WAS FORTUNATE TO WITH BE ABLE TO TAE A FIELD TRIP TO CHARLOTTE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER REECE, COUNCIL MEMBER ALSTON, RUTH ANN, GOTRIANGLE EXECUTIVE JEFF GREEN. WE WERE HOPING THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE ROM AND THAT IT WOULD FIT ON FARRINGTON ROAD, BUT INSTEAD WE LEFT CHARLOTTE MORE CONCERNED THAN BEFORE WE WENT. UP UNTIL THAT TRIP ALL I KNEW WAS WHAT I'D HEARD FROM GOTRIANGLE. THERE I SAW A FOR MYSELF WHAT A ROMF IS. IF YOU OPEN YOUR BLUE FOLDERS, THE FIRST THING YOU'LL SEE IS IS PACKET OF PICTURES PUT TOGETHER, PLEASE PULL THAT PACKET OUT. THE PICTURE TAKEN FROM THE HOME PAGE OF THE ROMF. ROMF SECTION OF GOTRIANGLE WEB SITE, ONLY PICTURE THERE THAT SHOWS THE DRAWING OF THE SITE.
NOW LOOK AT THE SECOND PICTURE. WE DREW ON THAT PICTURE SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT WAS MISSING. THE GLASS ON THE HOME PAGE DOES NOT SHOW CULP ARBOR OR CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY AND WE DREW THEM ON THE DRAWING. MOVING ON, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A SHORT TIME TO FLIP THROUGH THE REMAINING PICTURES FROM OUR TRIP TO CHARLOTTE AND OTHER ROMFs AROUND THE COUNTRY. WHILE AT THE ROMF IN CHARLOTTE, WITH WE HAD DISTURBING CONVERSATION WITH THE DIRECTOR OF THE CHARLOTTE ROMF WHO WAS HOSTING OUR TRIP. HE SAID, WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING FOR THE DURHAM ROMT WON'T WORK. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY — MS. HOF MANN, WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE RST OF THESE PICTURES AS THE SPEAKERS ARE SPEAKING SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING THEM TO US. KATHY ABERNATHY. >> KATHY, 233 CULP HILL DRIVE IN DURHAM CITY, 35-YEAR RESIDENT OF THIS TOWN/CITY AND I LOVE VOLUNTEERING FOR LOTS OF CIVIC THINGS HERE.
I COME TO THIS TO OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE WE'VE HEAD GOTRIANGLE'S TECHNICAL REORTS ON THE RM F F AND THEY GAVE US DISTURBING INFORMATION THAT HAD NEVER BEN PUT FORTH BEFORE. WE HAVE OVER 100 RESIDENCE IN CULP P ARBOR THAT ARE OVER 55. TRSZ AN AGE-RESTRICTED COMMUNITY. PROPERTIES LISTEN TO THE CITY OF DURHAM AND HAD A REQUIREMENT THAT 90% OF OUR HOMES BE SOLD TO PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 55. IT'S BEEN SINCE 2009, THAT THE DURHAM CITY RECORDS DOCUMENT THIS OVER 55 COMMUNITY. PHASE ONE HAS 65 HOMES AND 95 RESIDENCE. WE WERE NOT IN THE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. IT WASN'T UNTIL 2015, TOO, THAT THEY HAND DELIVERED LETTERS TO US THAT FARRINGTON ROAD HAD BEEN SELECTED AS THE ALTERNATIVE. PHASE TWO DID NOT BEGIN TO BUILD UNTIL 2017 AFTER DECISION HAD BEEN MADE. THESE PEOPLE HAVE ARE HAD NO INPUT OR NO VISITATION FROM GOTRIANGLE OR AYONE ELSE IN THIS COMMUNITY. THE CITY OF DURHAM, GOTRIANGLE NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED WE HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS JUST LIKE OTHER FOLKS IN THIS COMMUNITY UH WHO DO HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS, AND JUST LIKE FOREST AT DUKE WE HAVE HEALTH NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN EXTENT TO WHICH WE'VE BEEN EXCLUDED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JOHN. >> JOHN, 19 [INDISCERNIBLE]. ENVIRONMENTAL NOISE. GROUPS STUDIED EFFECTS OF NOISE. AGING PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS YOU'VE EXPERIENCED THEM. POPULATIONS ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE TO NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES OF NOISE INCLUDE PEOPLE WITH MEDICAL PROBLEMS, ELDERLY PEOPLE IN GENERAL. GENERAL FACILITY OF THIS SYSTEM, THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESPIRATORY DISORDERS, RECOVERY, STROKE, CANCER, ETC. UNINTERRUPTED P SLEEP RESULT OF BUILDING OF THIS STATION SEVERELY THREATEN THESE CYCLES. SOME EFFECTS, DIFFICULTY FALLING ASLEEP, BEING AWAKENED, CHANGES IN SEEP PHASES, INCREASE IN BLOOD PRESSURE AND HEART RATE. SLEEP DEPRAVATION INCLUDE INCREASED FACILITY, IMPAIRMENT OF ATTENTION, DEPRESSION, ACCIDENTS, ESPECIALLY RELEVANT FOR ELDERLY WHICH SHOW THAT SHORT NIGHTTIME SLEEP INCREASES LIKELIHOOD OF FALLS AND INJURIES. THE LATE EFFECTS OF PRODUCT NOISE EXPOSURE INCLUDE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, HIGH BLOOD SUGARS, CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, AND YEARS OF LIFE LOST.
IT IS OF INTEREST THE GUIDELINE DEVELOPMENT GROUP OF WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION RECOMMENDS REDUCING NOISE TRAFFIC ATTING NIGHT. I CANNOT HELP BUT CON UH DLOOUD THIS STATION WILL HAE SEVERE ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE SENIORER POPULATION IN THE VICINITY. [APPLAUSE] >> JEFF FURTHER. >> I'M SORRY. >> JEFF PRATHER. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WHILE HE'S SPEAKING AND MR. WEST IF TE FOLLOWING FOLKS COULD JOIN THEM OVER HERE IN THIS ORDER: JOE CAR, LINDA STA LONE, ANDREW JOHNSON, GAB RI YES LA, WITH JUAKEEM, BETTY SUE MASTERS. IF YOU ALL COME COULD OVER HERE. >> JEFF PRATHER, RETIRED AIR FORCE. I UH RAN AIR FORCE HEARING CONSERVATION PROGRAM AT VARIOUS BASES, HAZARDOUS PROGRAM. ANYBODY ELSE IN HERE DONE COMPREHENSIVE NOISE SURVEYS. OKAY UH. I CAN TELL YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN. I'VE GOT A SPEECH HERE I'M TRYING TO MAINTAIN MY COOL AND READ. I'M USED TO FACTS. ONE OF MY UH COMMENTS IS, HAVE YOU READ THIS? THEY PAID HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLAR NOR DOCUMENT.
I DIDN'T MAKE UP THESE NUMBERS. I UH KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET A DBA. 136 DBAS IS LOUDER THAN AIRCRAFT. THEY UH VAI SAY 136, IF NOT, THEY NEED TO FIRE WHOEVER DID THEIR RISK ASSESSMENT. THEY HAVE 118 DBA. THEY HAVE 99 DBA, WHAT'S TE NOISE LEVEL? I DON'T KNOW? DO YOU KNOW? CAN YOU VOTE FO SOMETHING — YOU'RE GOING TO RELY ON A FRIEND OF A FRIEND THAT WE WERE TOLD LAST TUESDAY THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THE NUMBERS FROM? HOW CAN YOU VOTE FOR SOMETHING AND NOT HAVE ANY VALID INFORMATION? I'M AN ENGINEER.
I DEAL WITH FACTS. I CAN INTERPRET FACTS. I CANNOT INTERPRET THIS. WHEN WAS THE MTER CALIBRATED? I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THEM WITH SOMEBODY THAT CAN GIVE ME — THIS HAS GONE TO FTA. THIS IS WHAT RISK ASSESSMENT IS BASED ON. DON'T YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CASE IF WE WANT TO RAISE UP? WHERE DID THIS LOW NUMBER COME FROM? A FRIEND? I'M SORRY. I LOST IT. [APPLAUSE] >> MR. WEST. >> RAY WEST, 5139 NIAGARA DRIVE. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THESE COMMENTS. ALSO PROVIDING AN AFFIDAVIT FROM DR. DENNIS NORVAL, RETIRED LIEUTENANT COLONEL FROM AIR FORCE WHO HAS MASTERS DEGREE AND PH DMSHGS ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCES AND Ph.D. FOR PUBLIC HEALTH. 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE AS BUY UH YO ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER. DURING HIS ACTIVE DUTY IN AIR FORCE HE OVERALL NOISE ON AIR FORCE BASES AROUND THE WORLD.
BASED ON HIS PROFESSIONAL TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE, GOTRIANGLE A AS NOT CONDUCTED, ARE REPEAT, NOT CONDUCTED A THOROUGH EXAMINATION OF HOW THE ROMF WILL IMPACT VILLAS OF CULP ARBOR AND ELSEWHERE. HE GOES ON TO SAY, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO MAKE A RATIONAL DETERMINATION ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE ROMF WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT NOR TO I ASSESS THE SEVERITY WITHOUT AN ACCURATE NOISE STUDY. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. GOTRIANGLE'S REQUEST FOR REZONING OF THE SITE SHOULD NO BE GRANTED UNTIL CAREFULLY NICKICALLY ACCURATE NOISE STUDY IS CONDUCTED AND UNTIL GOTRIANGLE SITS DOWN WITH THOSE AFFECTED AND MITIGATE THIS IS IN WRITING SO THAT IT WORKS OUT SO THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> JOE CAR, 15 SAN MEDI WAY IN, ELECTRICAL ENGINEER INCLUDING ACOUSTICS. THE SITE BEING SELECTED IS NOT THE RIGHT SITE BECAUSE IT REQUIRES TOO MANY SHARP TURNS, REQUIRES DISPLACEMENT OF A NUMBER OF TREES TO CUT SOUND BARRIER. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CLEAR CUTTING. 100 FEET OF WELL-ESTABLISHED TREES. THESE WILL BE REPLACED, APPARENTLY, WITH FOUR FOOTER BERM AND LINE OF DECK KRATIVE TREES.
MORE QUESTION TAIL IN A SECOND. GOTRIANGLE AS ESTIMATED CLEAR CUTTING OF THESE TREES WILL INCREASE LEVEL BY ONLY 10 DB. ONLY 10 DB IS TWO TIMES THE SOUND LEVEL. AT LEAST TWO TIMES. SITE ALSO REQUIRES TWO SHARP O TURNS AGAIN BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE, AND GOTRIANGLE L'S NUMBERS — NOT MINE — IS RAIL SQUEAL WILL BE 136 DB. DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG 136 DB IS? A SINGLE DEFENSE AIR SIREN IS ABOUT 136 DB.
CHRYSLER BUILDS AN AIR CIVIL DEFENSE SIREN THAT RANGES THREE MILES POWERED BY 440 HORSEPOWER AIR COME PRESOR ENGINE TO PUT THAT OUT. SPORTING EVENTS ARE ABOUT 120 DB IF YOU'VE BEEN SITTING NEXT TO ONE OF THOSE. IT TAKES 40 OF THOSE IT HAS TO BE EQUIVALENT TO 136 DB. IT'S NOT LINEARLY ADDITIVE. FOUR FOOT BERM WILL NOT SUPPRESS THE SOUND ENOUGH AND THE DECORATIVE TREES PUT ON TOP WILL NOT. ONE GOOD EXAMPLE OR ONE GOOD WAY UH TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS, YOU TAKE — >> THANK YOU VEY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> MS. LINDA SPELLING. >> YOU'VE INTRODUCED ME BUT I LIVE AT 5223 NIGH UHHING A GRA DRIVE IN DURHAM AND I AM SPEAKING ABOUT NOISES THAT WOULD BE ADMITTED FROM THE ROMF IF APPROVED. NOISES WILL BE MOST DAMAGING AT NIGHT BECAUSE THINGS LOUDER AT NIGHT WHEN LESS BACKGROUND NOISE TO DISGUISE IT. SOME NOISES WILL BE TRAIN WHEEL SQUEALS GOING AROUND DIET CURVES WITHIN THE SITE. LIFE EXPERIENCES TELL YOU LIKE FINGERNAILS ON A CHALKBOARD THAN LOWER PITCH SOUNDS. HORNS, ALARMS AND DOORS SLAMMING CONSTANT LOW GRADED WHITE NOISE.
YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO BELIEVE THAT THE NOISE BEING EMITTED HAVE NOISE IMPACT CLASSIFIED AS MODERATE IMPACT ON ONLY 13 HOMES ALONG FARRINGTON HOME. NOISE IMPACT CLASSIFIED AS MOST IMPACT ON NOOL DMOSH IMPACT ON IS 10 HOMES IN CULP ARBOR? NO IMPACT ON THE CHILDREN IN TRAILERS OR OUTDOORS ON THE PLAYGROUND? GOTRIANGLE AS THAT IT'S BEING MISINTERPRETED BY US AND YOU SHOULD GRANT REZONING. YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO ASSUME THEY'RE RIGHT AND WE'RE WRONG. THEY'RE ASKING THIS DESPITE THE FACT THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR NUMBERS. REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT NUMBERS AT THE 11th HOUR JUST DAYS BEFORE THIS HEARING. BEING ASKED TO CONCLUDE WITHOUT AN ADEQUATE NOISE STUDY THAT THE NOISE CAN BE MANAGED. THESE ARE SIMPLY NOT RATIONALE. CRITERIA FOR CHANGING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN MET. PLEASE VOTE NO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> ANDREW JOHNSON, 5102 STOCKTON WAY. I WANT TO ADDRESS WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOISE INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT AGREEMENTS WE'VE REACHED WITH GOTRIANGLE ABOUT WAY TO MITIGATE NOISE. PLANNING DEPARTMENTS CONSOLIDATED STAFF REPORT PRESENTED TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 9TH, NO MENTION OF NOISE, NOT SINGLE WORD. YET THAT DOCUMENT WAS USED TO ASSESS WHETHER YOU SHOULD GRANT GOTRIANGLES REZONING REQUEST.
GROUP OF CONCERNED NEIGHBORS BEGAN TO RESEARCH IMPACT OF NOISE. SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH HELP OF REECE AND OTHERS WE BEGAN TO MEET REGULARLILY WITH GOTRIANGLES TO MITIGATE ADVERSE IMPACTS OF THIS INDUSTRIAL USE IN RESIDENTIAL AREA. GOTRIANGLE THEN FILED SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT THAT INCLUDED NOISE MIGRATION REPORT THIS OCTOBER. AS LAYPERSONS WE BEGAN SEARCHING FOR NOISE EXPERT TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE REORT WE COULD NOT FIND ANYBODY. WE LOCATED TWO NOISE EXPERTS IN OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODs.
DESPITE OUR EFFORTS AND TIME COMMITTED, OUR TALKS LED NOWHERE. NO CONCESSIONS IN OUR MEETINGS. WE ASKED IF THEY WERE WILLING TO PUT CONCESSIONS IN WRITINGS ADDRESSING CONCERNS WE'D MADE. HE ANSWERED NO. UNDER UDO DEVELOPERS MUST NOTIFY RESIDENCE. IN MARCH 2018 WHEN GOTRIANGLE BEGAN DEVELOPMENT WORK NO RESIDENCE WERE NOTIFIED. SCHOOL WAS EQUALLY IN THE DOOR DARK. . WE LEARNED ABOUT REZONING REQUEST ONLY WHEN SITES WERE POSTED ON-SITE AND LETTERS WENT OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS. PLEASE VOTE NO TONIGHT. [APPLAUSE] >> GOOD EVENING. LADIVIA, PRESCOTT PLACE, STOCKTON WAY, DURHAM, MOTHER, CITIZEN OF DURHAM AND GEOGRAPHY PROFESSOR AT UN CHAPEL HILL. WRONG NUMBERS TO MAKE DETERMINATION AND THIS IS THE CASE FOR RESIDENCE OF CULP ARBOR AND HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY UH A MAJOR ERROR IN A REPORT WHICH PROVIDES INFORMATION FOR SUPPORTING ROMF ON FARRINGTON ROAD IS CRITICAL TO YOUR DECISION TONIGHT AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENCE OF CULP ARBOR.
P PAST THURSDAY, GOTRIANGLE NOTIFIED ABOUT ERRORS IN TABLE 6-3 WHICH SUMMARIZES LEVEL OF NOISE IMPACT AT CULP ARBOR WILL EXPERIENCE. GOTRIANGLE SAY ERRORS WERE TYPO AND CHANGES HAD NOT CHANGED RESULTS BUT THEY DO, THEY UH CHANGE EVERYTHING. PLEASE TAKE LOOK AT YOUR COPY OF TABLE 6-3. ROW ARE CULP ARBOR, CHANGES CIRCLED IN RED. 4.7 PRESENT INCREASE IN NOISE EXPERIENCED IF ROMF. 4.0 THRESHOLD NUMBER FOR DETERMINING SEVERE IMPACT. IF SEVERE, FDA RECOMMENDS AGAINST BUILDING. CONCLUSION DETERMINED BY THESE NUMBERS. 4.7 AND ANY NUMBER OVER 4 CAUSE FOR — HOUSES IN CULP ARBOR MODERATE IMPACT MUST BE CLASSIFIED AS HAVING SEVERE IMPACT. ON FRIDAY, GOTRIANGLE JEFF GREEN CONFIRMED THEY WOULD NOT CHANGE THIS. ALL 12 HOMES WILL BE CONTINUE TO BE CLASSIFIED AS MODZ FIED IMPACT. WE'RE AT A CLASS TO EXPLAIN WHY UH THAT COULD BE. PLEASE VOTE NO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. . WAKEEM, 491 STOCKTON WAY. DURHAM'S NEWEST ORDINANCE WHICH PRODUCES NOISES LOUDER THAN 60 DECIBELS IN DA AND 50 AT NIGHT. RAILROAD IS 24 HOUR OPERATIONS AND MOST NOISE OCCURRENCES HAPPENING AT NIGHT. FORCING NEWEST ORDINANCE WOULD FALL ON RESIDENCE IN THE AREA. CONCERN ABOUT TE NOISE CONTACT POLICE, COME OUT MEASURE NOISE AND COULD SITE SOMEONE IN VIOLATION.
USING THIS PROCEDURE SENIOR SIT ENS OF CULP P ARBOR WILL LIKELY CALL POLICE CONTINUOUSLY I DUE TO UNRELENTING NOISE INTRUSIONS AT RAIL YARD. CLEARLY NOISE BEING GENERATED ON THE ROMF SITE GREATER THAN 50 DECIBELS. GOTRIANGLE L HOPES THAT NOISE WILL B REDUCED BY UH THE TIME IT REACHES PERSON THAT IT WON'T VIOLENT THE NOISE ORDINANCE. HOWEVER, DESPITE OUR ASKING, GOTRIANGLE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO ASSURE THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN. IN ADDITION, NOISE STUDY, ITSELF, PROVIDES NO DATA THAT TELLS US AT WHAT DISTANCE FROM THE TRAINS OVER THE 50 DECIBEL NOISE WOULD DIMINISH ENOUGH NOT TO VIOLENT ORDINANCE.
GOTRIANGLE ASKING YOU TO DECIDE THAT RAIL YARD IS FITTING LABOR AND MEETS CRY UH TIER YEAH FOR CHANGE TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITHOUT ADEQUATE INFORMATION. INDICATING ROMF WILL NOT VIOLENT DURHAM'S NOISE ORDINANCES, PLEASE VOTE NO. [APPLAUSE] >> KEN HIBERT 105 WOOD BURN PLACE. GOTRIANGLE HAS NOT COMMITTED TO MEASURES THEY CLAIM WILL MITIGATE NOISE FROM THE TRAIN YARD WITH RUBBER WHEELS, TRACK LUBE BASE, SOUND SHIELDING OF WHEELS. TO DATE, OTHER LITE RAIL LINES THAT HAVE EMPLOYED THESE TECHNOLOGIES HAS MET WITH MARGINAL SUCCESS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY NOW MEASURE DECIBEL LEVELS THAT EXCEED ORIGINAL ESTIMATES. GOTRIANGLE HAS NOT PROPOSED ANY MITIGATION FOR ADDITIONAL NOISE FROM THIS FACILITY. THEY'VE STATED THAT I WILL BE IMPACTFUL SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WITH BRAKE NOISE, BELL AND HORN TESTING ON DAILY AND EVENING BASIS AND SQUEALS FROM IMPROPERLYING TIGHT RADIUS TURNS IN THE YARD. ADDITIONALLY, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, TALKS WITH WITH GOTRIANGLE AND MR. TALMAGE AND HIS TEAM WERE UNABLE TO CONFIRM THAT HIS TEAM — AND WAS NT ABLE TO MAKE A WRITTEN COMMITMENT TO CREATE SUCH A BUDGET AS PRT OF REZONING REQUEST.
WE'RE CONCERN BECAUSE IF GOTRIANGLE RUNS OUT OF FUNDS THERE'S NO WAY WITHOUT A WRITTEN COMMITMENT TO FORCE IT TO PAY TO MITIGATE NOISE IMPACTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE SCHOOLS. UNDER FDA GUIDELINES SUCH MITT E GAGS IS DISCRETIONARY, LEFT UP TO GOTRIANGLE'S JUDGMENT. WE NEED CITY COUNCIL TO REQUIRE MORE FROM GOTRIANGLE. PLEASE VOTE NO. [APPLAUSE] >> MR. ERIC HAYGAN. NEXT GOUP OF SPEAKERS. LIZ EMRIC, NONENWAS,… ANN VON HOLLY — JOIN US HERE ON THIS RIGHT SIDE. >> ERIC HAGAN, 4904 STOCKTON WAY. FEW MITIGATION MEASURES THAT GOTRIANGLE HAS COMMITTED TO BEFORE YOU IS TO BUILD A 20-FOOT BUFFER ALONG FARRINGTON ROAD. AFTER FAILING TO GET ENDORSEMENT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE PROJECT THEY RECENTLY COMMITTED TO ADDING A BERM, SINGLE ROW OF 8-FOOT EVER GREEN TREES.
THIS WILL NOT POTECT NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THIS SITE SITUATED IN THE MIDDLE OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A FOUR-FOOT SIX [AWAY FROM MIKE]. FRIENDSES HOLDING 20-FOOT RIBBON WHICH IS WIDTH OF THE PROPOSED BUFFER. GO TRY ANGLE IS LEADING PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A 90 FOOT BUFFER BUT IN SEXUAL ALTY THERE'S ONLY A 90-FOOT SETBACK TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. FRONT PART OF THAT WILL BE VEGETATIVE BUFFER WITH ONLY 40% OPACITY ONCE THE TREES HAVE FULLY MATURES. 60% OF THE BUFFER WILL BE ABLE TO BE SEEN DIRECTLY THROUGH.
THE REST OF SETBACK WILL BE A PARKING LOT, SIDEWALKS, AND DUMPSTERS ALL ON LAND CHA THAT IS CURRENTLY HEAVILY WOODED. FINALLY UH EVERGREEN TREES AT EDGE OF 20 FOOT BUFFER. TOP OF MY HAND IS EIGHT FEET TALL AND THIS IS THE HEIGHT OF THOSE TREES THEY ARE PROPOSING TO LAND EVERY 14 FEET ALONG THAT BUFFER. THIS 20 FOOT BUFFER, SINGLE ROW OF TREES AND FOUR FOOT BERM ALONG ONLY PART OF FARRINGTON ROAD ARE NOT SUFFICIENT.
PLEASE SAY NO. [APPLAUSE] >> FOLKS, I DON'T MIND YOU APPLAUDING BUT I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE BRIEF. I'M GOING TO BE HERE FOR LONG TIME TONIGHT, A LOT LNGER THAN YOU ARE SO HELP ME OUT A LITTLE BIT. DR. MASTERS TO BE FOLLOWED BY LYNN EM RICK. >> MAYOR SCHEWEL, I WANT TO FIRST SAY THAT MY COMMENTS ARE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED [INDISCERNIBLE] — THAT'S NOT THE END OF MY TALK. [LAUGHTER] >> IT WAS SHORT BUT YOU DID A GREAT JOB. [LAUGHTER] >> DR. MASTERS, DURHAM CITIZEN AT 18 KOR TONA DRIVE. BUY UH YO MEDICAL RESEARCH FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS. I'M CURRENTLY AJUNTHD PRO SEE SOR AT DUKE YUFRT. IN ORDER TO PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION ABOUT REZONING FOR THE ROMF, I'M GOING TO ADDRESS ISSUE CALLED CONTROLLED FLUIDS WHICH IS TERMINOLOGY USED IN THE REPORT WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION OF WHAT THEY WERE.
THEY STATE IN THEIR DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE USED TRANSPORTED TO AND FROM THE SITE. IN INTEREST OF TIME I'LL ADDRESS TWO EXAMPLES. FIRST, ONE THOUSAND GALLON OIL TANK ALMOST 20 TIMES SIZE OF 50 55 GALLON DRUM WILL STORE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS ON THE SITE. THIS QUANTITY OF FLAMMABLY UH KWID COULD INCREASE EXPLOSION AND SPARKS PRODUCED BY WHEELS ON E METAL TRACKS. NO SPILLAGE, REALLY? CHOOSING THIS SITE WHICH REQUIRED LARGE AMOUNTS OF FLAMMABLE FLUIDS NEAR SCHOOL IS POOR PLANNING. 150 GALLONS OF AMMONIA KNOWN TO BE TOXIC IF POSED IN LARGE — EXPOSED IN LARGE AMOUNTS.
WHILE IT MAY BE UNLIKELY THIS WILL OCCUR, IT CAN HAPPEN AND THERE ARE 900 CHILDREN NOT TA FAR AWAY. MOST RISK IS NOT FROM EVERYDAY USE BUT FROM UNPREDICTABLE EMERGENCIES. I HOPE YOU WILL VOTE NO. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> LYNN EMRICK. >> 5128 NIAGARA DRIVE. IN FALL 2017, SHORTLY AFTER RETIRING, I LOST MY HOME TO THE FLOODS THAT DEVASTATED HOUSTON AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY. AS A RESULT OF THAT LOSS I'M ACUTELY AWARE OF THE NEED FOR GOVERNMENTS TO PLAN WISELY TO AVOID FUTURE CATASTROPHIC FLOODING.
I WAS STUNNED TO FIND OUT ONLY FIVE MONTHS AFTER MOVING INTO CULP ARBOR THAT DURHAM WAS CONSIDERING A APPLICATION TO BUILD IN THE WETLANDS ACROSS THE STREET. THE MAJOR CONCERN IS DESTRUCTION OF THESE WETLANDS. FIVE DAYS AGO, AN ARTICLE SAID CLIMATE CHANGE WILL MAKE STORMS MORE FREQUENT AND DAMAGING IN NORTH CAROLINA AND SUGGESTED CITY REDUCE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES YET ROMF WILL DO EXACT OPPOSITE. JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN WE HAD FOUR INCHES OF RAIN, SEVERAL LANES OF I 40 VERY NEAR ROMF SITE WERE IMPASSABLE DUE TO FLOODING. AS CITY UH WHO CARES ABOUT ENVIRONMENT, DURHAM'S DECISION TO DESTROY THESE WETLANDS WOULD NOT BE A GOOD ONE.
SUFFERLY NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THE RAIL YARD. SECOND CONCERN VI IS FOR THE RAIL BEING IN THE OLDER RESIDENCE DMENT CULP ARBOR. I'VE SEEN HOW FRAGILE OLDER ADULTS CAN BE. STAFF PLANNING REPORT CONCLUDES RAIL YARD WILL HAVE NO SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. I BELIEVE THE IMPACT WILL BE ENORMOUS FOR THE REASONS YOU'RE HEARING THIS EVENING. I KNOW YOU'RE LISTENING TONIGHT AND YOU'VE READ OUR E-MAILS AND LETTERS AS WELL.
PLEASE HAVE THOSE MESSAGES ON YOUR HEART AS YOU VOTE AND DO NOT ABANDON DURHAM'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UNDER THE PRESSURE OF MAKING A QUICK DECISION DRIVEN BY I A TIMELINE THAT YOU DID NOT CREATE. PLEASE VOTE NO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> [INDISCERNIBLE]. >> 5815 CAP DRIVE. I'M ATTORNEY AND DAUGHTER IN CREEKSIDE. NON-SCHOOL DAY IT WOULD NORMALLY TAKE 12340E MINUTES TO GRET FROM HOME TO SCHOOL. SCHOOL DAY IT TAKES 25 A MINUTES. THIS T DIFFERENCE IS TRAFFIC. OCCASIONAL TRAFFIC TOLL SHL AND RELATIVELY SAFE. CHRONIC MAJOR CONGESTION IS SOMETHING ELSE. TWO LARGE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT RIGHT ALONG THE ROUTE AND MORE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS EXPECTED. NEXT BECAUSE OF THE ODD SHAPE OF THIS LOT, GOTRIANGLE REZONE REQUESTING TONIGHT WOULD ASK YOU TO AGREE THAT FARRINGTON ROAD COULD NEVER BE WIDENED ALONG THAT STRETCH. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT INCREASING DEVELOPMENT WHILE INCREASING SITE — FINALLY, WHAT HAPPENS IF EMERGENCY OCCURS AT ROM THE F SITE THAT AFFECTS OUR CHILDREN? AS I SAT AT THE CORNER LOOKING AT REZONING SITE THIS MORNING, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERY PARENT HAD TO RUSH TO THE SCHOOL FOR EMERGENCY AT THE RSG OMF.
GOTRIANGLE TELLS US IT'LL WORK WITH OFFICIALS TO COME UP WITH PLAN TO KEEP CHILDREN SAFE. . I AM NOT A PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER BUT THERE'S NO GOOD SOLUTION IF THE ROMF AS DESIGNED IS BUILT ON THIS SITE. GOTRIANGLE HAS PICKED THE WRONG SITE. IMYOU DO NOT HAVE TO CONTINUE DOWN THIS WRONG PATH. GOTRIANGLE CAN BACK UP AND CHOOSE A BETTER-SUITED SITE. INDUSTRIAL FACILITY LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT BE THIS NEAR A PUBLIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. PLEASE VOTE NO. [APPLAUSE] >> DR. LESSLY JOHNSON, 5102 STOCKTON WAY IN DURHAM PARENT OF TWO CHILDREN WHO ATTEND CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING MOTION.
HOME OWNER AND MEMBER OF THE GATHERING CHURCH WHICH MEETING WEEKLY AT CREAKSIDE. ASSISTANT PRO SEE SOR AT NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY AND PRACTICING SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. KEENLY AWARE OF HOW REZONING MOTION WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT CREEKSIDE STUDENTS. SINCE 1995 WE'VE KNOWN THSE GROUPS OF STUDENTS ARE AT RISK OF LEARNING PROBLEMS. CHILDREN WITH HEARING LOSS AND OTHER SPECIAL NEEDS, NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING STUDENTS, CHILDREN YOUNGER THAN 13. CLOSE TO 900 STUDENTS AT CREEKSIDE, ESPECIALLY 8% THERE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. THE EFFECTIVE NOISE IN CLASSROOM DECREASES COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION. INCREASE LISTENING EFFORT IS REQUIRED BY STUDENT IN NOISY ENVIRONMENT THUS LIMITING CONCENTRATION. CHILDREN EXPOSED TO NOISE HAVE POOR PERFORMANCE ON NATIONALLY STANDARDIZED TESTS. CHRONIC NOISE EXPOSURE AT SCHOOL IS ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASED NOISE ANNOYANCE AND SLEEP DISTURBANCE. IMAGINE HOW THIS IMPACTS SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN. ENVIRONMENTAL NOISE HAS SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT FOR ELEMENTARY STUDENTS — WHEELS SCREECH IS GOING TO BE RANDOM AND DISTINCT. NOISY CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT INCREASE TEACHER FRUSTRATION AS WELL AS FATIGUE THUS CONTRIBUTING TO TURNOVER. [APPLAUSE] >> HINES, 3763 SOUTHWEST DURHAM DRIVE.
MOTHER OF TWO CHILDREN THAT ATTEND CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY. I ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON REZONING OF THE AREA WHERE CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOL IS LOCATED. CREEKSIDE IS TITLE ONE SCHOOL MEANING AT LEAST 40% OF STUDENTS ARE FROM LOW INCOME HOMES QUALIFYING THE SCHOOL FOR, TRA FUNDING AND ADVOCACY TO COMBAT LOW ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE [INDISCERNIBLE]. BEING SAID, PLEASE CONSIDER THE CHILDREN AT THE SCHOOL WHO LEARN IN TRAY UH LORS PARKED ON CAMPUS, WHICH IS LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM PROPOSED SITE. FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADERS ON THE TRAILERS AND THOSE ARE NOT ADEQUATELY EQUIPPED TO HANDLE LOUD NOISES TRAINS WILL BRING. THOSE FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADE STUDENTS CONSIDER LOW INCOME WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH CONSTANT NOISE WHILE LEARNING AND PLAYING MAKING A DAY AT SCHOOL A HIGHLY STRESSFUL EXPERIENCE. THESE WERE THE SAME CHILDREN THAT WILL HAVE TO TAKE ED OF THE YEAR EXAM A AT THE END OF A NOISY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. MANY OF THE CHILDREN AT THIS SCHOOL LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU ARE PLANNING TO REZONE MEANING THEY'LL NEVER GET AWAY FROM THE NOISE.
LOCATION OF THIS ROMF I NOT GOOD SOLUTION. THIS IS A MAINTENANCE FACILITY, NOT A STATION WHICH IS VERY BIG DIFFERENCE. PLEASE HEAR CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL HAVE T LIVE WITH THIS DECISION. . ONCE AGAIN, I SAY NO TO REZONING. ALSO, AS RESIDENT — FWRG TE BRONX I'M AWARE OF PEOPLE MAKING PROMISES THAT ARE NOT KEPT. THE NEW YANKEE STADIUM WAS PROMISED TO HAVE A PART FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LESS CONGESTION BECAUSE OF TWO PARKING. BUILT IN 2009, NOW 2018 AND THERE WERE FUNDS THAT WERE NOT ENOUGH. THANK YOU. BYE. [APPLAUSE] >> [INDISCERNIBLE]. >> HOLD ON. ALL RIGHT. JENNIFER HODGE KIN SON, 602 WIND CREST ROAD IN DURHAM. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT TWO-THIRDS OF OUR STUDENTS ARE MINORITIES, MAJORITY OF THEM. I WANTED TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF MY DAUGHTER WHO'S A STUDENT AT CREEKSIDE. PICTURE TO PUT A FACE TO HER STORY. ON MARCH 3rd OF LAST YEAR, SHE COLLAPSED AS SHE WAS GETTING READY FOR SCHOOL MARKING THE BEGINNING OF ENDLESS DOCTOR VISITS, TEXTING AND SPECIALISTS. WE WERE WORRID SHE MIGHT HAVE A TUMOR BECAUSE SHE COUNT WALK.
DIAGNOSED WITH INFLAMMATION OF THE INNER EAR CAUSES SEVERE VERT GISHGS O, DIZZINESS, NAUSEA CAUSED BY A EAR INFECTION AND IF YOU HAVE KIDS YOU KNOW UH HOW COMMON EAR INFECTIONS ARE. SHE HAD TO UNDERGO MONTHS OF PHYSICAL THEY ARE FOI REGAIN HER AMBULANCE AND STILL VERY SENSE THETIVE TO LOUD NOISES. SHE EAT HER LUNCH WITH TEACHERINGS INSTEAD OF CAFETERIA, SKIP ACTIVITIES IN THE GYM, OR FIELD TRIPS. RAIL YARD BUILT ONLY 360 YARDS FROM THE SCHOOL AND IF CREATES A HIGH PITCH NOISES IT'S EXPECTED TO, I WOULD BE POWERLESS TO PROTECT HER AND SHE'S ONLY ONE CHILD AT THIS SCHOOL. WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO RAIL YARD WILL IMPACT ANY OF OUR KIDS. EXPERTS HAVE WEIGHED IN, NO TESTS CONDUCTED. GOTRIANGLE REPRESENTATIVE WEEK IF THEY'D CONDUCTED ANY TESTS INSIDE THE BUILDING, OUTSIDE THE BUILDING UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS ANSWER WAS NO. NOISE LEVELS EXPECTED TO FAR SURPRISE DURHAM'S OWN LEGAL NOISE ORDINANCES AND MOST PARENTS HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN ANY INFORMATION ABOUT RAIL YARD OR IMPACT HAVING ON OUR KIDS AND THEIR EDUCATION.
THERE'S A REASON OTHER CITIES BUILD THEIR RAIL YARDS AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS. DON'T SACRIFICE OUR KIDS TO THIS POOR PLANNING. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> APPRECIATE YOUR — WE ALL HAVE CHILDREN OUR OURSELVES AND WE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE TO YOU. MS. WOODDELL. >> WOODDELL, 4718 KARMEN LANE, PRESCOTT PLACE NEAR PROPOSED ROMF LOCATION. DAUGHTER'S A THIRD GRADER AT CREEKSIDE AND ASK YOU TO VOE NO. MY DAUGHTER IS MY HERO BECAUSE SHE'S OVERCOME MANY OBSTACLES. BORN AT 25 WEEKS AND SENSE 101 DAYS AT DUKE.
SHE HAS VISION DEFICITS, HEARING DEFICITS AND PROCESSING DISORDER. THIS IS A CODITION THAT AFFECTS HOW BRAIN RECEIVES AND RESPONDS FROM INFORMATION COMING FROM SENSES. HEIGHTENED SENSES. SOMETHING MINOR TO YOU OR I CAN BE HUGE TO A CHILD LIKE THAT. IF THEY'RE STIMULATED THROUGHOUT THE DAY, BY UH THAT AFTERNOON OR EVENING THAT CHILD COULD STRUGGLE WITH EVERYDAY LIFE. IMAGINE ADDING 32 [INDISCERNIBLE] TO THEIR ALREADY HECTIC DAY. OVER 850 STUDENTS AT CREEKSIDE AND MANY HAVE A 504 OR AC. DAUGHTER'S CLASS, 50% OF THOSE STUDENTS HAD ONE OFTHE TWO. FAIRLY PROTECTED EDUCATION PLAN FOR STUDENT WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. CREEKSIDE STAFF WORKS TO PROVIDE A PROPER LEARNING ENVIRONMENT , BUT HOW UH ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN? IF RAIL YARD IS GOING TAKE A BREAK AS WITH WELL DURING TESTING? SAFE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT THAT SUPPORTS WHOLE CHILD.
HOW DOES LITE RAIL SUPPORT THIS? HOW CAN YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL SACRIFICE THIS SCHOOL? OUR SCHOOL. AS YOU PREPARE TO VOTE CONSIDER MY UH DAUGHTER'S HEALTH. THE THOUGHT OF HER HAVING TO WEAR HEADPHONES MAKES ME SICK. SHE'LL NEVER GET A BREAK FROM RAIL YAD NOISE. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] BEFORE NET SPEAKER I'LL ASK NEXT GROUP OF SPEAKERS TO COME FORWARD. LOX HENDRICKS, STEVE FOM, PHIL POST, STEPHANIE GALAY. MAKE YOUR WAY OVER TO THE RIGHT FOLLOWED BY GORDON GALWAY, DOT TI WOLFORD AND ROBERT SLATER. PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY OVER TO THIS AREA OVER HERE, I WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE. MEANWHILE, WELCOME. >> ANN VON HOLLY, PARENT OF CHILDREN AT CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THIS HEARING AGAINST THE INDUSTRIAL REZONING.
AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM FELLOW CREEKSIDE PARENTS, THIS LOCATION CONTAINS POTENTIAL TO HARM CHILDREN AT A SCHOOL QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY. NO ONE HERE CAN HONESTLY CLAIM 100% MITIGATION OF NOISE DISCLOSURE. POTENTIAL FOR HARM AT THE SCHOOL REMAINS. WITH POTENTIAL FOR HARM POLICYMAKERS SHOULD HAVE NOTIFIED PARENTS FOR THIS APPLICATION. I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT ZONING HEARING ON PUBLIC FORUM CALED NEXT DOOR. I SPOKE ABOUT THIS LACK OF COMMUNICATION AT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. SINCE THEN, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. AT THE 11th HOUR A SMALL GROUP OF PARENTS HAS SCRAMBLED TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF THE REZONING AT THE SCHOOL. ONLY WAY TO REACH ALL PARENTS WOULD BE THROUGH THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, BUT THAT CHANNEL HAS BEEN CLOSED TO US. WITHOUT A DOUBT, A LARGE NUMBER OF PARENTS AND GUARD YANS STILL NOT AWARE OF INDUSTRIAL REZONING APPLICATION OR PUBLIC HEARING.
THREE LOCAL UNIVERSITIES BEN P FITTING THE FLOES THIS RAIL YARD HAVE PROTECTION. P WHAT HAS DURHAM CITY DONE TO PROTECT FUTURE GENERATIONS OF CREEKSIDE SCHOOL CHILDREN FROM HARM? AS A PARENT, I CAN'T GIVE YOU GOOD ANSWER. MINIMUM, PLEASE E DELAY THIS VOTE SO WE CAN NOTIFY ALL PARENTS, ASSESS NOISE POLLUTION, FOLLOW THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW AND ACT IN ETHICAL MANNER. [APPLAUSE] >> LESS HENDRICKS. >> HENDRICKS, [INDISCERNIBLE]. YOU'RE ASKED TO MAKE A FUNDAMENTAL DECISION ABOUT ROMF BASED SOLELY ON INFORMATION PROVIDED TO YOU BY UH GOTRIANGLE AND THIS INFORMATION TURNS OUT TO BE INCOMPLETE. [INDISCERNIBLE] ONE EXAMPLE, NOISE. GOTRIANGLE HAS [INDISCERNIBLE]. YEARS A AFTER THE SITE HAD ACTUALLY BEEN SELECTED.
[INDISCERNIBLE] ROMF SHOCKINGLY LOUD AND GOTRIANGLE STILL CLAIMS IMPACT WILL BE MODERATE. SFOOIF DAYS AGO, ADVISED AGAIN. [INDISCERNIBLE] GUIDELINES — LET ME MENTION, EARLIER THIS YEAR GOTRIANGLE EVICTED [INDISCERNIBLE]. HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS FAMILY FROM GOTRIANGLE AND YOU NEVER WILL, HEAR FRM MR. WOODS LATER TONIGHT. GOTRIANGLE L LOST PUBLIC TRUST SO WE PLACE OUR TRUST IN YOU TO MAKE RIGHT DECISION TONIGHT. PLEASE VOTE NO. >> STEVE CHROME, 112 PI UH PINO COURT FROM CULP ARBOR. EARLIER YOU HEARD FROM A PRESENTER WHO SHOWED PICTURES OF AFFECTED NEIGHBORHOOD AND DESCRIBING VISIT FROM CHARLOTTE ROMF. PICKING UP WHERE SHE LEFT OFF. WAS BEING TOLD BY DIRECTOR OF THE ROMF IN CHARLOTTE, QUOTE WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING FOR THE DURHAM ROMF WON'T WORK. WHEN PRESSED TO ELABORATE QUTE YOU NEED DOUBLE TRACKS. IF YOU DON'T BUILD IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, YOU'LL REGRET IT FOREVER.
HE SAID HE COULD NOT IMAGINE HOW TO TRAIN CARS WOULD BE DELIVERED ON THE SITE AS NARROW AS FARRINGTON. GOTRIANGLE STAFF PERSON WITH US SAID, QUOTE, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED WILL WORK. MR. SMITH ANSWERED, THAT WAS THE DIRECTOR, I HAVE 46 YEARS OF RAILROAD EXPERIENCE AND I'M TELLING YOU, IT WILL NOT. PLEASE KEEP THESE IMAGES AND THIS COMMENT IN MIND AS YOU HEAR THE REMAINDER OF THE SPEAKERS.
WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO TRY TO FIND COMMON GROUND WITH GOTRIANGLE OVER THE LAST MONTH AND SADLY HAVE FOUND NONE. PLEASE VOTE NO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> 10 ST. ANDREWS PLACE. PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET FOUR FINDINGS AND NOT IN CONJUNCTION WITH STATUTE. INSKUNT WITH EXISTING LAND USE PLANS; EXISTING TRANSPORTATION PLAN BUT THERE'S NOT A SINGLE PLAN IN THE CITY OF DURHAM THAT PROPOSES ANY INDUSTRIAL ZONING WEST OF INTERSTATE 40. CLOSEST AND FOUR-AND-A-HALF MILES AWAY. OWN STATEMENTS SAY THIS WILL DEVIATE FROM EXISTING PATTERNS AND PERFECT EXAMPLE OF LEAP FROG AND NON-CONTIGUOUS ZONE CHG IS PROHIBITED BY YOUR ORD HANS. XAT WBL EXISTING LAND USES? NO. ALL A SURROUNDING LAND USES ARE RESIDENTIAL.
LARGEST COUNTY UH ALMOST RI SCHOOL IS 450 FEET AWAY. INDUSTRIAL NOISE, LIGHTS, USE, DANGER NOT COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING HOMES. JUSTIFICATION IS BASED ON SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY AND CHANGE CONDITIONS. THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IS ALL A RESIDENTIAL AND THERE ARE NO CHANGE CONDITIONS AT A THIS LOCATION. SUBSTANTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS? YES. NOISE, 88 P% OF THE TREES ON THIS 24 ACHE AER SITE WILL BE REMOVED. 100% OF WETLANDS FILLED IN. 70% STREAM BUFFERS DESTROYED. 20 FOOT BUFFER INADEQUATE. ADDITIONAL PROFFER IS FOR 8 FOOT PINE TREES ALONG FRONTAGE THEY'RE GOING TO CLEAR CUT 21 ACRES WTH THOUSANDS OF TREES AND REPLANT ABOUT 90 PINE TREES, TOTALLY INA ADEQUATE. SITE OF ADEQUATE SIZE, SHAPE, LOCATION? ANSWER A LUTEALLY NOT. OWN MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR WILL BE 58% WILL BE DESTROYED. FOR ALMOST 750 FEET OF THE FRONTAGE ALONG I 40 WILL BE NO TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR BUFFER AT ALL.
PLEASE DENY THIS REZONING. [APPLAUSE] >> STEF ANY GALWAY, 114 BACK RATE BOULEVARD IN DURHAM. LEARNED THERE WILL BE NOISE AT THE SITE THAT'S SEVERE BY FEDERAL STANDARDS. FIGURES BASED ON WRITTEN NOISE REPORT THAT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND VIRTUALLY INDECIPHERABLE P. NEEDS TO BE DONE AGAIN. PLANNING DEPARTMENT CHANGE OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT MENTION NOISE EVEN ONCE. CONCLUDES WITHOUT EXPLANATION DH SITE IS PROPOSE SIZE AND SHAPE FOR PROJECT AND NO SUBSTANTIAL ADVERSE IMPACT TO NEIGHBORS OR ENVIRONMENT. CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING PLANS NONE OF THESE THINGS. INAPPROPRIATE USE OF PROPERTY UH FOR WHICH GOTRIANGLE SEEKING TO REZONE. VIO VIOLATES YOUR CRITERIA FOR DETERMINE REGULAR ZONING SHOULD BE GRANTED. WE'RE HERE BECAUSE GO TRY AG DID NOT DO ITS HOMEWORK WHEN CHOOSING THIS SITE. DID NOT RECOGNIZE AND COTINUES TO NOT RECOGNIZE THE REALITY OF THIS SITE.
SENIOR COMMUNITY, TITLE ONE ELEMENTARY UH SCHOOL, AFRICAN AMERICAN FAMILY AND OTHERS. HAVING CHOSE WRONG IT CONTINUED ITS ERROR ARE AND NW ASKS TO YOU JOIN IN ITS PAST. THIS IS YOUR DECISION, NOT THEIRS. YOU ARE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE PUT OUR TRUST IN YOU. WE ARE SOUNDING ON YOU TO EXERCISE YOUR JUDGMENT TONIGHT WISELY. IF YOU VOTE YES TONIGHT OUR LIVES WILL BE PERMANENTLY CHANGE. CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. WETLANDS WILL BE PEFRMENT PERMANENTLY LOST, HEALTH OF SENIORS AND CHILDREN WILL BE SEVERELY IMPACTED NOW AND FOREVER. THIS IS YOUR DECISION, YOURS. I ASK YOU TO THINK ON THAT, NOT GOTRIANGLE. PLEASE VOTE NO TONIGHT. [APPLAUSE] >> GORDON GALWAY, 114 BACK RATE BOULEVARD IN DURHAM. MEETING WITH GOTRIANGLE CONCERN REHATED TO LITE RAIL CROSSINGS AS A ARE RELATING TO SCHOOL BUSES ON FARRINGTON ROAD AND BACKUPS TO SCHOOL BUSES LEGAL OBLIGATIONS TO STOP AT RAIL CROSSINGS.
SENIOR PLANNING AT GOTRIANGLE L L WAS UNAWARE OF THE LAW THAT SCHOOL BUSES STOP AND FAILED TO MITIGATE THAT. THAT'S NOT MY POINT. MY POINT IS THAT HAD GOTRIANGLE ENGAGED EPS, CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY ARE, INDEED THE SCHOOL A LARGE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A KNOWN VARIABLE, YET AT EVERY TURN, WE AS A SCHOOL-BASED COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED. AT GOTRIANGLE AND THIS BOARD IN FRONT OF ME TODAY REACHED OUT CONSTITUENCY, THOSE MOST AFFECT BID THE ROMF, I DON'T THINK WE'D BE HERE TONIGHT.
IN FACT, THIS BOARD'S OWN PLANNING COMMISSION, PORTRAYED THIS ROMF AS A BAD DECISION. MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS IS NOT YOUR CLASSIC CASE OF DETERMINE DETERMINE PULIC POLICY. ROMF SITE MUST NOT BE LOCATED NEAR MY SCHOOL. WE HAVE MASSIVE MULTIBILLION DOLLARS INFROM STRUCTURE PROJECT HERE RESTING ON A SINGLE BAD IDEA. HERE I STAND SOUNDING AS IF I'M ANTILITE RAIL, I AM NO, UH BUT I UH AM POINTED IN A CORNER. WE SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT AS STANDING NOW HINGES ON THIS SITE IN TONIGHT'S VOTE.
I SAY UH LET'S DO THIS LIE RAIL THING BUT BIG ENOUGH WITH A FINGERPRINT FOR A REAL ROMF ALSO DONE RIGHT. WE'RE NOT ASKING TO YOU QUIT ON THE IDEA P. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO WAIT, TO DO IT RIGHT, TO FIND A NEW ROMF SITE. FEDERAL FUND WILLING COME AGAIN P. WE KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. VOTE KNOW TONIGHT, PLEASE. [APPLAUSE] >> BEFORE NEXT SPEAKER, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT SLATER THEN I'D LIKE TO ASK SOME OTHER FOLKS TO PLEASE JOIN THEM OVER HERE IN THIS ORDER: BARBARA SMITH, JOHN AUSTIN, JOHN VON — I'M SORRY UH I CAN'T READ — AKIN, ELLEN MICHAELSON, ISAAC WOODS, PHYLLIS McLAIN. >> WILLOFORD, 550 YARDS FROM THIS PROPOSED ROMF, ALWAYS OPPOSED TO IT. I KNOW IT'S NOT THE ONLY LOCATION POSSIBLE.
BEING CLOSE I'VE BEEN NOTIFIED MANY TIMES. THERE ARE ACTUALLY UH ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED FOR THIS BUILDING. TWO OF THEM ARE ALREADY ZONED INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL, AND I JUST ASK YOU, PLEASE DO NOT. VOTE NO, DO NOT PUT TAT BUILDING IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND CLOSE TO OUR CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> ROBERT SLATER. THANK FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN HEARING EVERYBODY. 204 GALWAY DRIVE IN CHAPEL HILL, DURHAM COUNTY. JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, I'VE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE BUSINESS 30 YEARS. I TEACH REAL ESTATE TO UNDERGRADS AT BOTH DUKE AND CAROLINA P. I HAVE BEEN SPENDING 25 YARS COMING BEFORE FOLKS ASKING FOR ZONING AND ENTITLEMENTS. AT THE OUTSET I WOULD MAKE CLEAR THIS HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WIH LITE RAIL, I'M ALL FOR LITE RAIL, CREATES GREAT WEALTH FOR THOSE WHO OWN THE SITES NER THE STATIONS, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THIS IS JUST ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS PROPER SPOT FOR THIS FACILITY.
I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. I JUST MAKE THREE POINTS. NUMBER ONE WOULD BE THIS PROPOSAL VIOLATES THE FUNDAMENTAL ZONING WHICH DON'T PUT RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL FA FACILITY TOGETHER. ZONING 101. MY OFFICE IN ALEXANDRIA WAS NEAR THE SIMILAR PLANT FOR THE WASHINGTON METRO, AND FOR EIGHT YEARS I UH HEARD THE SQUEAKING BRAKES ALL A DAY LONG WHICH WAS FINE. WENT HOME AT 5:30 AT NIGHT. YOU DON'T NEED A NOISE STUDY TO KNOW THE SOUND IS GOING TO IMPAIR PEOPLE'S VALUE OF THEIR HOMES; OF COURSE IT IS. SO PEOPLE CAN PUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG AND ARGUE ABOUT THE DECIBELS AND ALL THAT.
I WOULD SAY THIS JUST A BAD — NUMBER TWO I WOULD SAY IF I CAME BEFORE YOU AS A PRVATE DEVELOPER, I DIGIT HAVE A CHANCE WITH THIS PROPOSAL, WHY SHOULD THEY? NUMBER THREE, I THINK UH THERE MAY BE EXPOSURE UNDER THE FIFTH AMENDMENT DEPENDING ON THE NOISE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> NOT AGAINST LITE RAIL, AGAINST PUTTING ROMF IN THE PLACE THAT, UH, THAT GOTRIANGLE HAS DESIGNATED. ACCORDING TO THE WEB SITE, APPLIED GOALS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. TWO OF THEM ARE BEING VIOLATED BY ALL THE THINGS BROUGHT OUT BY OTHER SPEAKERS. GOAL OF MAINTAINING SAFE AND SECURE COMMUNITY, MAINTAINING LIVABLE NEIGHBORHOODS; BOTH BEING VIOLATED BY ALL THE NEGATIVE THINGS THE ROMF WILL HAPPEN IF IT'S BUILT. IT'S INAPPROPRIATE TO PUT IN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX IN MIDDLE OF RESIDENTIAL AREA. CITY COUNCIL IS TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH STATED GOALS. PLEASE VOTE NO ON ALL FOUR MOTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER 37. TWO GOALS THAT NEED TO BE MAINTAINED IS MAINTAINING SAFE AND SECURE COMMUNITY AND HAVING THRIVABLE AND LIVABLE NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> JOHN AUSTIN, 15 WESLEY WOOD DRIVE.
TRANSIT'S IMPORTANT. IN ALMOST ALL CASES ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES CAUSE TO BUSINESS, UNIVERSITIES OR RESIDENCE BY THE PROJECT ARE OFFSET BY THE ADVANTAGE OF A STATION, SOMETHING THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, BUT IN THE THIS CASE THERE ARE ONLY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FOR A NEIGHBORHOODS. YES, DEAD LINES ARE IMPORTANT, BUT DEADLINE FOR FEDERAL FUNDING IS NOT EXCUSE FOR GO TRY ANGLE TO IGNORE ISSUES RAISED BY COMMUNITY. DUKE, GOOD MANN AND OTHERS FINALLY HAD THE COURAGE TO STAND UP AND ASK GOTRIANGLE NOT TO KILL LITE RAIL BUT TO DO BETTER. NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SAME. I CAN'T SAY MY OBJECTIONS ANY BETTER THAN TOM MILLER DID IN HIS REPORT.
PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND FOLLOW YOUR OWN STATUTES WITH REGARDS TO ZONING CHANGES. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> JOHN VAN HAWKINS. >> I'VE BEEN CALLED WORSE. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I WANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW RIGHT NOW JOHN VON AKEN, 5203 NIGH GRAG DRIVE IN CULP HARBOR. NO ONE HRE TONIGHT IS ARGUING THE FACT THAT WE NEED THE LITE RAIL. IT'S THE FACT THAT GO TRIANGLE HAS NOT DISCLOSED EVERYTHING UP FRONT TO US. THEY INDICATED THERE WERE FIVE SITES THEY COULD HAVE CHOSEN AND THE REASONS THEY GAVE DIDN'T EXACTLY SEEM TO BE FORTH COMING OR TOOK TIME TO DELIVER IT.
THE SITE DOWN IN CHARLOTTE SOUTH BAY IS 14 ACRES. WHY DID THEY NEED 20 ACRES TO BUILD THE SITE? BECAUSE THIR PUTTING A A BUILDING ON IT? WHY DO WE NEED A BUILDING THERE? GO BACK AND REINVESTIGATE THE SITE AND GET FULL DISCLOE THR SURE AS FAR AS WHY THEY DECIDED THEY WEREN'T SUITABLE. WHILE LOKING AT IT, THINGS ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND RIGHT ALONG THE SITE THERE'S A PLACE OVER ON — SORRY ABOUT THAT — OTHER, YEAH, HERE WE GO — ON SHANNON ROAD BASICALLY UH TAKING THAT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, KNOCKING DOWN SEVEN BUILDINGS OR BUSINESSES INCLUDING CAR DEALER SHIP AND PUT STATION THERE. RIGHT BEHIND IT, RIGHT ON 501, THERE IS A LOT ADJACENT TO IT THAT'S VACANT.
WHY NOT REINVESTIGATE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MAKE PERFECT SENSE? TO TURN AROUND AND TAKE A PROPERTY SUCH AS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AND REZONE IT FOR LITE RAIL OR INDUSTRIAL IS WROG. THERE'S PLENTY OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OUT THAT THERE TAT CAN BE REINVESTIGATED AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. I WOULD LIKE THE SEE A LOT OF REASONS AS FAR AS WHY IT SHOULD GO FORWARD BUT RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS I'M CONCERN GO RAIL HAS NOT BEEN FORTH COMING WITH INFORMATION THAT WE NEED LET ALONE THAT YOU NEED WITH THE SOUND, ETC. I ASK YOU TO VOTE NO. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> ELLEN MICHAELSON, 4324 TRENTON ROAD, VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING THAT'S GREEN BUT NOT THE ROMF BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT. I ENCOURAGE TO YOU VOTE NO. ALL OF THE REASONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN STATED, BUT I HAVE PERSONALLY VIRSED THE CHARLOTTE ROMF AND THAT WAS NOT WITH TH GROUP BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T INCLUSIVE OF EVERYONE AND IT WAS ACTUALLY BUILT ON A DUMPING GROUND NOT ON A FAMILY FARM WHICH WHERE IS WHAT WE HAVE.
I UH ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST ALL FOUR MOTIONS. THERE'S FRUL GUIDELINES FOR BUILDING A ROMF, PLACING IT ALONG LIKE BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES SUCH AS WAREHOUSES, NOT 75 YARDS FROM A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY OR 40 O YARDS FROM A SCHOOL INCLUDING WE MUST HAVE TEN NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THERE. I'VE LIVED WITHIN THE PROPOSED REZONING SITE FOR 30 YEARS, OVER 30 YEARS, AND I AM IN A GREEN NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE'RE GOING HEAR EVEN MORE WITH THE — YOU'VE SEEN IT ALL, I CAN'T REPEAT EVERYTHING AND I DON'T WANT TO, BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I HAVE OBSERVED THAT INTERSECTION THE GOTRIANGLE PEOPLE ADMITTED THEY'VE NOT LOOKED BETWEEN 7:00 A.M.
AND 9:00 A.M. OR 4:00 P.M. AND 6:00 P.M. THERE'S VEHICULAR ACCIDENTS, BUSES EMPTY, NOBODY AT THE BUS STOPS. I'M NOT SAYING THE THE LITE RAIL IS NOT NECESSARY, WE ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE, BUT I ALSO HAVE A POSTCARD HERE. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE THE 90s AND THIS IS THE FIRST POSTCARD I GOT LAST MONTH WHERE GOTRIANGLE RESCHEDULE MEETING FOR MONDAY, NOVEMBER 19TH, THANKSGIVING AND THEY WERE FRIENDING A SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENT ASSESSMENT. THAT GAVE PEOPLE 11 DAYS INCLUDING HOLIDAY TO PUT THEIR CONCERNS IN WRITING TO YOU PEOPLE. I HOPE YOU GOT THE LETTERS WE SENT, BUT IT IS PREHOLIDAY PEOPLE BUT IN IS NOT FOR CHRISTMAS, THIS IS BECAUSE WE OPPOSE LITE RAIL. WE WANT YOU TO STOP IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> WOODS. >> IF I COULD, IN INTEREST OF TIME, FAMILY MEMBERS THAT HAVE GIVEN ME THEIR TIME, NEXT ON THE LIST: McCHAIN, ELLA WOODS, AND ELLA DAY AND MICHELE. I'M GOING — >> MR. WOODS, I'VE BEEN ON THE CITY COUNCIL SEVEN YEARS. WE DON'T YIELD TIME. >> NO. I'M SUMMARIZING INTO ONE WHAT WOULD NORMALLY TAKE 15 MINUTES I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO IN TWO MINUTES.
>> THAT IS GREAT. >> APOLOGIZE. >> IF YOU DO THAT, YOU GET THE MEDAL OF HONOR. [LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU. ISAAC WOODS, 5223 EPHESUS CHURCH ROAD. WE ARE DESCENDANTS OF ISAAC NEWTON JONES, FORMER SLAVES, BEEN THERE ALL MY LIFE. AS MY UH MOTHER, SISTER, PROPERTY'S BEEN TAKEN — [APPLAUSE] — MY COUSIN ELLA, OUR PROPERTY UH OVER HALF THE PROPERTY GO TRY AGE A L TAKEN FOR THIS MAINTENANCE FACILITY BELONGS TO AFRICAN AMERICANS AS YOU CAN SEE. THEY'VE ALREADY EXERCISED EMINENT DOMAIN. ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT MOST HURTFUL THING WE SAW WAS THERE WAS NO AFRICAN AMERICANS ASSOCIATED AT ALL IN THAT REPORT. LOOKED AT THAT AND FAMILY LOOKED AT THAT, WE SAID WHY COULD THIS HAPPEN. THEY'VE TAKEN OUR PROPERTY WAY BACK IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN. WE'VE BEEN AT EVERY MEETING. THEY KNEW WE WERE AFRICAN AMERICANS, WHY DID THAT FALSIFY UH THE INFORMATION TO YOU TO CONVINCE YOU TO MAKE A BAD DECISION AND TO T GOVERNMENT BECAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ACT CAN'T PUT RAILS, HIGHWAYS IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAS MAJORITY POPULATION.
ON BEHALF OF THE LAND, THEY'VE TAKEN EMINENT DOMAIN TO BUILD LITE RAIL OWNED BY AFRICAN AMERICANS. ACROSS THE STREET ALL THE WAY UP TO SCHOOL, THAT IS STILL LAND OWNED BY AFRICAN AMERICANS THAT WE RESIDE THERE FROM MY GREAT GRANDFATHER, FOR THEM TO COME IN AND DO THIS FALSE REPORT AND PRESENT TO YOU TO TRY TO MAKE YOU TINK THEY'RE GIVING YOU GOOD INFORMATION, SAME INFORMATION THEY GAVE YOU FALTS INFORMATION NOISE YOU SHOULD REJECT THAT WHAT YOU SAID LET POLICE OFFICER FALTS REPORT AND ACT ON IT? NO, YOU WOULD SEND IT BACK AND SAY BRING US ACCURATE, INTEGRITY INFORMATION TO ACT ON. THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH GO TRY AGE. NO TO THIS REZONING AND SENDS IT BACK. SUPPORT INFORMATION TO THIS DOWN CIRCUMSTANTIAL IT MUST BE ACCURATE AND VOTE NO TONIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> [INDISCERNIBLE]. I BELIEVE THAT MR. WOODS WAS SPEAKING FOR YOU JUST T MAKE SURE MS. ELLA R. WOODS, ELLA DAY TURNTINE — ANY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU. MICHELE ROBERSON. >> LOW[LOW AUDIO]. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. BRYAN SOHER. I'M GOING TO CALL FEW MORE NAMES AND IF YOU WOULD JOIN US OVER HERE. BRYAN SOHER, JENNY FORCE, DONNA COON, ANDREW OBAMUSA, BOB YOWL, TOM STARK, ANN JENSON. MR. SOHER WELCOME. >> BRYAN SOHER, I LIVE OTHER SIDE OF CREEKSIDE, FAMILIAR WITH SOUND OF I 40 AND IT'S NOT SUCH A BAD THING, LIKE THE OCEAN. IT DUNTD HAPPEN INTERMITTENTLY AND DOESN'T SLHRIEK. CLOSE TO OUR PROPERTY AN ALSO THE FACT IT'S ALL NIGHT. I WISH I'D GOTTEN ANY UH SORT OF MAIL OR E-MAIL OR ANY NOTIFICATION BEFORE ABOUT A MONTH AGO FROM GOTRIANGLE. NUMBER OF AKS OR LACK OF ACTIONS FROM GOTRIANGLE BUT REALLY PRESENDS STORY OF BAD FAITH ON THE PART OF THIS LARGE VENTURE FOR AN IMPORTANT THING LIKE LITE RAIL.
I WOULD LOVE TO RIDE LITE RAIL TO WORK. HONESTLY, THIS IS ALL PAIN AND NO GAIN IF FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. EVERYTHING PEOPLE PRESENTED ARE CONCERNS BUT THERE'S NOT A STP THERE FOR US TO RIDE TO WORK ON. I'D HAVE TO DRIVE IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS. FOUR FOOT BERM, LOVED THAT PRESENTATION, 20 FOOT SETBACK, TRUST ME, I UH KNOW HOW QUICKLY OR NOT VERY QUICKLY TREES GROW ABOUT TEN FEET IN EIGHT YEARS. DOESN'T STOP NOISE. I WANT TO GO HOME AND TELL MY CHILDREN THAT I DIDN'T STOP LITE RAIL BUT I SW MY UH REPRESENTATIVES TELL A CORPORATE ENTITY THAT WE WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TELL THEM THAT DEMOCRACY WORKED. I WANT TO BE TABLE TO TELL THEM YOU LOOKED AT THIS FOR ISSUE FOR THE PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF DURHAM AND VOTED ON MERITS NOT JUST ON NECESSITY DUE TO POOR PLANNING. [APPLAUSE] >> JENNY FORCE, TWO MINUTES. >> JENNY FORCE, 4211 TAILOR HALL PLACE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LITE RAIL OR MASS TRANSIT BUT WORKING HARD TO ACTIVATE MY NEIGHBORHOOD. HEAR MY OPPOSITION THAT I OPPOSE THIS LOCATION OF THE ROMF.
TOO CLOSE TO ELDERLY COMMUNITY, SO MANY OF WHICH ARE HERE TONIGHT AS WELL AS CREEKSIDE STUDENTS, AS WELL AS MY FAMILY. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP AT NIGHT WITHOUT HEARING WHEEL SQUEALS. URGE TOYOU VOTE NO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> DONNA COON. ARE YOU HERE? NOW FLARE AN DRAW ABAMUSA. >> I'M NOT HE BUT — >> SORRY, YOU CN'T SPEAK FOR HIM, WE DON'T YIELD TIME. THE IF HE'S HERE, HE CAN FEEL FREE TO SIGN UP AND SPEAK. >> HE DID, BUT HE GOT CALLED.
HE'S A NEUROSURGEON. >> YOU'VE HARD SPOKEN. WE DON'T YIELD TIME. THANK YOU. >> MR. BOB YOWL. >> DR. ROBERT YOWL, 5138 NIAGARA DRIVE IN CULP ARBOR. LIKE TO PUT MY TWO CENTS IN WORTH TONIGHT TO SAY THAT I UH AGREE WITH ALL MY PATRIOTS THAT HAVE EXPLAINED TO YOU VERY CLEARLY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. I WAS BORN HERE IN DURHAM ALMOST 82 YEARS AGO AND PRACTICED OBGYN NEAR DURHAM FOR 'BOUT 40 YEARS AND DELIVERED BABIES IN SEVERAL HOSPITALS. BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, I KNOW DURHAM. DURHAM'S PART OF MY HISTORY. I LOVE IT. MOVED SIX DIFFERENT PLACES IN DURHAM NOT COUNTING THE HOUSE MY MOTHER AND DAD BUILT IN 1940. WHEN WE FINALLY E DECIDE TO GO TO CULP ARBOR TWO YEARS AGO, WE STARTED LOOKING AND IT WAS JUST GREAT FOR WHERE WE WANTED TO BE AND WE HEARD ABSOLUTELY E NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF WHAT WE HAVE TALK AID UH BOUT TONIGHT AND IS JUST MY FEELING IS THAT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT OUT AND EXPLAINED TO EVERYONE INVOLVED.
WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS OUT THERE, WE LOVE CULP P ARBOR, AND WE DO NOT THINK THAT THE ROMF SHOULD BE ACROSS THE STREET FROM US. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> TOM STARK, HERE TO REPRESENT THE OAKS THREE AND CULP ARER BOAR. 105 KYLEWAY DRIVE, OFFICE AT 5925 FARRINGTON ROAD JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS. WE HAVE A PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT THAT IS SUPPORTED BY A GROUP OF POLITICALLY ACTIVE FOLKS BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH LIGHT RAIL IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THE EVIDENCE IS SERIOUS NOISE XAS COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS.
IT WOULD NEVER BE APPROVED BUT FOR THE FACT IT'S CALLED FOR FOLKS WHO WANT TO SEE LITE RAIL. IT'S NOT THE FAULT OF THE OPPONENTS THAT GOTRIANGLE DISMISSED THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE IN COMMERCIAL AN INDUSTRIAL AREAS MORE SUITABLE FOR THIS KIND OF FACILITY. THE PROPOSAL IS FAMILY FLAWED BECAUSE IT INVOLVES A REFUSAL HERE THAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED AS MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO DISMISS THE ORDINANCES THAT PROTECT PROPERTIES. THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, MPC BUFFER. MOWED DOWN 100 FOOT BUFFER WE DECIDED WAS IMPORTANT FOR HIGHWAYS AND PRERELACE IT WITH 20 FEET AROUND A FACILITY THAT'S MUCH NOISIER THAN THE HIGHWAY. NOT A PROPOSAL THAT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WAS JUST AMENDED TEN DAYS AGO. HOW DOES THAT FIT WITH NEPA? WHEN THERE AREN'T ALTERNATIVES OFFERED AND ASSESSMENT WAS JUST UPDATED? HOW DO WE DO AN APPROVAL THAT IS IN VIE UHLATION OFTHE CONSIDERATION THAT A COUNCIL HAS TO LOOK AT IN ORDER TO PASS A REZONING? AND THEN CHANGES THE — >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] CALL FINAL GROUP OF SPEAKERS JOIN OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT. JOHN WILL FORD, JENNIFER HER HANDS, PETER RILEY, PETTER, JAY WIL WILLIAMS FREEZE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE ROMF TONIGHT? ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD IN OPPOSITION TO THE ROMF AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? THIS REZONING? ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING? OKAY.
I BELIEVE THESE ARE OUR LAST SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION. AGAIN, I'VE GOTTEN HERE MR. DAN GENERALSON, JOHN WILLFORD, GENERAL TER HERNANDEZ, KELLY RILEY, PETER GONZOLEAN, JAY WILLIAM SPRANZY. >> DAN GENERALSON, 106 NOTTINGHAM DRIVE, HALF A MILE FROM THE PROPOSED MAINTENANCE FACILITY. I REALLY DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING. I HAVE NOT BEEN INFORMED, LEARNING A LOT TONIGHT. I'VE WRITTEN DOWN A FEW THINGS. MR. MAYOR, I UH APPLAUD YOU TO REALLY REVITALIZE THIS AREA. IT'S EXCITING AND UH HOPE IT CONTINUES TO SEE THAT, BUT THIS IS A MAINTENANCE FACILITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND IT'S IN THE WRONG AREA.
IF YOU LOOK AT TH PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEAKING TONIGHT, E PROPONENTS VERSE US OPPONENTS. OPPONENTS OUTNUMBER PROPONENTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ROOM WITH VARIATION OF RED, YOU SEE THE OPPONENTS THERE ARE ALSO OUTNUMBER THE PROPONENTS. OPPONENTS HAVE SHOWED UP WITH EXPERTS, WITH THE DATA, TO REALLY PUT IT BEFORE YOU WHY THIS FACILITY IS WRONG. YOUR DISRUPTING A RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE'RE THE PEOPLE TALKING TO YOU; SENIOR CITIZENS AND MOTHERS REPRESENTING THEIR CHILDREN. THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEMOGRAPHIC. AND NOW TO LEARN HOW THAT LAND WAS ACQUIRED; OH MY GOSH. HOW DOES THAT GET BY YOU? THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT WE CAN, THAT THIS FACILITY, FACILITY, WE'RE NOT OPPOSING. I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE OPPONENT OPPOSE LITE RAIL. THEY'RE OPPOSING A FACILITY. THE DOCUMENTS ARE COMING FROM FOLKS GOTRIANGLE. HMM, WHAT'S THEIR INTEREST? OH, THEY'RE GOING TO TO DO IT, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD IT. SURE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE DATA. PLEASE VOTE NO. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> JOHN WILL FORD, 4716 KARMEN LANE, DURHAM. VICE PRESIDENT OF OUR HOME OWNER ES ASSOCIATION, CONFIRM THAT OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS I'VE SAT THERE I'VE NOT RECEIVED NOR ANY MEMBER OF OUR BOARD OR OUR ADMINISTRATOR ONE SINGLE NOTICE FROM GOTRIANGLE.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS 101 HOMES IN IT. IF WE CONSERVATIVELIEST MATE THAT, WE'RE AT $36 MILLION WORTH OF PROPERTY VALUE. WHAT PORTION OF THAT JUST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS FACILITY? NEIGHBOR REMEDIATION EFFORTS ARE OKAY, MAYBE NOT, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A FACTUAL FINANCIAL ASSESSMENT TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. IF JESUS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO LOSE 10% OF ITS VALUE THOSE CITIZENS ARE GOING TO BE $3.6 MILLION WOTH OF LOSS AS A RESULT OF THIS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH HERE, LOOK AT US, LOOK AT THE CITIZENS OF CULP ARBOR AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND AND ASK, HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT OF WHETHER TESE REMEDIATION EFFORTS ARE CORRECT OR NOT WITHOUT THE WHOLE PICTURE TO SEE HOW EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED AS A RESULT OF THIS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. [APPLAUSE] HERNANDEZ. >> JENNIFER HERNANDEZ, 4316 TAILOR HALL PLACE IN TRENTON COMMUNITY AS WELL. I THINK YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF POINTS ALREADY ABOUT INCONSISTENCY OF REZONING THIS LAND GIVEN CONTEXT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO UNDERSCORE IS THE COMMUNICATION FROM GOTRIANGLE AND THE EVALUATION OF ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS. THE ORE FIVE, I HEARD SOME OF THE BACK STORIES AT PREVIOUS MEETING.
ONE LOCATIONS GOT UTILIZED FOR CAR DEALER SHIP INSTEAD, ONE LOCATION WE WERE TOLD GOT A LOT OF LETTERS WRITTEN IN FROM CHILDREN AT THE JEWISH CENTER AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS REMOVED FROM THE LIST AND THAT EXPLANATION GOT ME THINKING IF THERE'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, DID THEY NOT LET THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KNOW BEAUS THEY DIDN'T WANT A WHOLE FLOOD OF CHILDREN'S LETTERS COMING IN? HEARING A LOT OF THE STORIES TONIGHT THAT I HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY HEARD FROM CREEKSIDE PARENTS REALLY DRIVE THAT HOME, AND I LOOK THROUGH THEIR WEB SITE RECENTLY, SAW A LOT OF THEIR PUBLICLY-LISTED EVENTS, SOME OF WHICH I UH ATTENDED BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO DRIVE BY THE INTERSECTION FREQUENTLY AND THEY HAVE CHILDREN ABLE TO ATTEND ON A WEEKNIGHT BUT I ALSO RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THEM EARLIER THIS MONTH AND GOT TO SEE FIRST-HAND HOW DISINGENUOUS THAT COMMUNICATION COULD BE. WHAT I GOT — AND VI A PICTURE OF IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WAS A LETTER STATING THREE OPEN HOUSES TO DISCUSS THE RECENTLY SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENT ASSESSMENT WICH IS HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF PAGES LONG, EXTREMELY UH TECHNICAL. THANK YOU TO THE CITY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO OFFERED THEIR EXPERTISE TO HELP US LAY CITIZENS DECIPHER THE INFORMATION IN THERE, BUT LETTER WAS POST MARCED AFTER TWO OF THOSE THREE DATES HAD OCCURRED.
BY THE WAY, THIRD ONE WAS TWO DAYS LATER. IE, I DIDN'T OPEN IT BEFORE THAT DATE OCCURRED. LOOKED ON THE WEB SITE AND FOUND OUT THERE WAS A LATER ONE TOO LATE. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> MS. RILEY 4712 KARMEN LANE. MR. BAKER, EXCITED TO SEE YOU HERE TONIGHT, AED DINNER WHERE IT WAS ABOUT CHARACTER AND LEADERSHIP.
I WAS VERY CONCERNED TO HEAR THAT THE ROMF LOCATIONS CONSIDERED ON CORNWALLIS ROAD NEXT TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL. WHEN THE PARENTS PROTESTED THAT LOCATION IT WAS CHANGED. NOW THAT THE ROMF LOCATION IS NEXT TO A PUBLIC SCHOOL, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY UH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE NOT GIVEN THE SAME CONCERN. A LADY EARLIER TONIGHT SAID THAT ISSUE WAS ABOUT RACE. AGREED. MORE STUDENTS ATTEND CREEKSIDE ELEMENT OF COLORER THAN STUDENTS THAT ATTEND PRIVATE SCHOOL. I'M SO GLAD MR. WOODS IS HERE TO REPRESENT HIS FAMILY P. WHEN I READ THE ARTICLE THIS WEEK, I THOUGHT ABOUT ANOTHER ROMF LOCATION THAT WAS DISCARDED BECAUSE IT WAS AN HISTORICAL SITE. I COUNT BELIEVE THAT A FAMILY THAT'S OWNED THEIR LAND SINCE SLAVERY IS NOT CONSIDERED. PROPERTY VALUES. REPORT BY GO TRIENG TOL MITIGATE CONCERNS, PROPERTY VALUES ARE NOT MENTIONED. WE ONLY HAVE A ROMF, NO STATION. THERE ARER ACTUALLY NEIGHBOR WHO IS STILL BELIEVE THE ROMF INCLUDES A STATION THAT COULD ATTRACT BUYERS. ROMF IN ITSELF WOULD NOT DRAW BUYERS, IT WOULD DETRACT THEM AND THAT COULD CAUSE CRIPPLING FINANCIAL SITUATION FOR MY FAMILY AND MANY OTHERS.
I DO ASK YOU CONSIDER JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IF YOU DO LIVE IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD YOU WANT TO BE TURNED INTO AN INDUSTRIAL ONE WITH STATION NEARBY AND NO BENEFITS WHEN YOU WANT TO SELL YOUR HOME? THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> CONCERN CITIZEN THAT LIVES IN SCOTTS MANN WAY. AS YOU CONSIDER YOUR VOTE PLEASE ASK YOURSELF HOW CAN WE CALL PROGRESS WHEN WE REZONE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IN EQUILIBRIUM? RETIREMENT AND SCHOOL, CEMETERY AND PEOPLE OF FAITH NEARBY REJECTING MISMANAGEMENT BY GOTRIANGLE NOT TO FIND A MORE SUITABLE INDUSTRIAL LOCATION SHOULD NOT BE CONFLATED WITH REJECTION OF THE LITE RAIL. LITE RAIL COULD BE VERY POSITIVE FOR DURHAM WITH AN APPROPRIATELY-LOCATED ROMF IN AN INDUSTRIAL, NOT RESIDENTIAL, COMMUNITY. PLEASE VOTE NO. [APPLAUSE] >> JOE WILLIAM SPRANZI. >> 4707 MARINA PLACE WHICH IS LESS THAN A HALF MILE AWAY FROM THE PROPOSALED SITE OF THE REZONING. REAL ESTATE DEELOPER AND INVESTOR AS WELL AS ADJUNCT FACULTY AT BUSINESS SCHOOL. I'M NOT AGAINST LITE RAIL AS MANY OF MY COME PAPATRIOTS. GOTRIANGLE DIDN'T MEET REQUIRED PRESCRIBED IN UDO.UIREMENTS – ADDITIONALLY, ONLY IN THE LAST EIGHT WEEKS HAVE THEY RELEASED IMPACTS OF NOISE STUDY AND SOME QUESTION SUITABILITY AN ACCURACY OF THE REPORT.
STUDY OF NOISE AND IMPACT ON RESIDENT STUDENTS AND THOSE IN SURROUNDING AREAS. ECONOMIC IMPACT WILL BE MEDIATE AND SEVERE. — IMMEDIATE AND SEVERE. ARE REZONING CREATES LOTTERY SYSTEM THAT HAS DESIGNATED OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AS THE LOSER BURDENED TO PAY LOSS OF PROPERTY VALUE WITHOUT BENEFITS OF LITE RAIL WINNERS THAT INCHUDED MANY OF THE PROPONENTS WHO SPOKE EARLIER TO BELIEVE THE. PARTICULARLY UH THOSE WHO LIVE CLOSE TO STOPS. MUST VOTE YES, ADD ADITIONAL – LANGUAGE TO THE REZONING TO REQUIRE EITHER A FULL-TIME STOP AT THIS LOCATION OR SOME ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THOSE IMPACTED. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO DO A FISCAL ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THIS NATION STATION NOW THAT THE NOISE STUDY HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT. BEFORE I GIVE CALCULATIONS TO YOU, I THANK EVERYBODY WHO'S SPOKEN SO FAR. WE'VE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION BOTH PROND CON.
REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK EVERYONE HAS DONE AND THE INFORMATION YOU'VE BROUGHT, SERIOUSNESS WITH WHICH YOU'VE TAKEN THE TOPIC. THANK EVERYBODY FOR THAT. I DID SOME ROUGH CALCULATIONS, MADAM CLERK, AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE 52 SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION; 18 IN FAVOR. IS THAT WHAT YOU HAE, MADAM CLERK? OKAY. GOING TO DO TIME CALCULATION HERE. >> MAYOR, I HAVE 18 AS WELL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN DOING A LITTLE BIT OF QUICK MATH, LET'S JUST SAY THAT THE PRO POENLTS WOULD HAVE 68 MINUTES IF YOU CHOSE TO TAKE IT ALL TO COMPLY WITH OUR RULE THAT EVERYONE ON BOTH SIDES OF A REZONING CASE GETS EQUAL AMOUNT OF TIME PRO AND CON. AND AS I SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT. I'M GOING TO FIRST ASK OUR STAFF MEMBERS FROM GOTRIANGLE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO NOW COME AND ADD ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU MA HAVE UH NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD BOTH OPPONENTS AND PROPONENTS.
>> JUST WANT TO SAY WE'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS AND WE'RE READY TO DO THAT BUT WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE TIME RIGHT NOW. >> ALL RIGHT. LET ME JUST HEAR THEN, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROPONENTS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE QUESTIONS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ANY OTHER PROPONENTS? OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING? ANYONE IN THIS ROOM EITHER PROOR CON WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING? YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. PLEASE COME DOWN HERE. WHILE SHE COMES I'M GOING TO GIVE ONE LAST CHANCE. IS THERE ANYNE, PRO OR CON, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD BEFORE — LAST CALL. YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD? PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY OVER TO THE PODIUM AS WELL.
DID I UH SEE ANOTHER PERSON? >> [LOW AUDIO]. >> LET ME EXPLAIN THE RULES AGAIN. BOTH THE PROPONENTINGS AND THE OPPONENTS GET EQUAL TIME. THAT'S THE RULE. I GAVE EVERYONE TWO MINUTES AND THEN THE LEFTOVER TIME CAN BE USED BY ANY PROPONENT. SO THE FACT THAT HE'S ALREADY SPOKE, HE CAN SPEAK AGAIN JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT HOW IT WORKS. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, AFTER YOU'VE SPOKEN IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND IF YOU GO TO THAT TABLE AND FILL OUT YELLOW CARD. >> TAM RA FIN, 412 NODDING HAM DRIVE ABOUT TWO STREETS AWAY FRI ROMF. NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT EVERYONE SAID. I PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THIS TO SHOW MY DISTASTE FOR THIS DECISION. HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE A NO. I WANT TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS THINGS WE HEARD AT LAST MEETING. A GENTLE MANN ON THE GOTRIANGLE COMMITTEE SAID IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN FRONT OF SYNAGOGUE BUT SINCE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS AN EYESORE IT GOT TURNED DOWN P.
ON TOP OF ALL THE REASONS I THINK IT'S AN EYESORE. COUPLE ARTICLES SAID THERE WILL BE N PAINTING AT THIS THE FAC FACILITY AS WELL AS SOMETHING ELSE. I'M WONDERING WHERE THE PAINT WILLING P HAPPEN AND IF THERE'S A FACILITY SET UP FOR THE PAINTING WHY CAN'T THE WHOLE ROMF BE PUT WHERE THE PAINT WILLING BE DONE. I CAN'T RECALL WHAT THE OTHER THING BUT UH IF THE PAINTING IS GOING TO BE DONE SOMEWHERE LET'S MOVE THE WHOLE ROM THE F TO THAT AREA AS WELL.
I'M AT THE INTERSECTION ALL TE TIME OF THE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BOARDED UP AND IT MAKES E ME SAD AND JUST TO HEAR THE FAMILY STORIES TONIGHT BROUGHT TEARS TO MY EYES AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY SAD DECISION FOR SO MANY REASONS: THE CHILDREN, THE FAMILIES, THE SCHOOLS, THE CULP ARBOR HAVING ELDERLY PARENTS, I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY'D BE LIVING THERE BEING SUBJECTED TO THIS AND THINKING THEY SPENT THEIR WHOLE LIVE AND RETIREMENT FUNDS TO SPEND MONEY ON A HOUSE THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE THEM GRIEF WITH SOUNDS AND YOU KNOW PROPERTY VALUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S ALL VI TO SAY, I HOPE IT'S A BIG FAT NO. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> [INDISCERNIBLE] COUPLE OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE SITE MANY SPEAKERS WHO WERE OPPOSED REFERRED TO THIS SITE AS BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL AREA. IT IS BESIDE A RESIDENTIAL AREA. >> EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. EVERY SINGLE SPEAKER HAS BEEN SHOWN WITH RESPECT AND WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT THE REST OF THE NIGHT AND I TOTALLY EXPECTING THAT AND I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE IS EXPECTING THAT TOO.
THE IF YOU AGREE WITH SOMEONE OR YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THEM. I EXPECT EVERY SPEAKER TO BE TREATED WITH ABSOLUTE RESPECT. THANK YOU. >> THE SITE CHOSEN IS BESIDE CULP ARBOR NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN LOOKING AT THE AREA, I WAS SURPRISED BUT NOTED THAT IT FACES AWAY I FROM FARRINGTON ROAD, AND THERE ARE A FEW UH HOUSES THAT ARE CLOSE, DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE SITE THAT WE ARE TOLD BY GOTRIANGLE COULD HAVE SOME MODERATE IMPACT BUT OVER 100 UNITS CAN EXTEND BEOND AND FURTHER BACK. THERE IS ONLY ONE HOUSE THAT FACES THE SITE ALONG ITS FULL DISTANCE. WE HEAR ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT IMPACT. SCHOOL IS NOT RIGHT BESIDE THE SITE, IT'S A THIRD OF A MILE TO THE STRUCTURE, BUT THE OTHER PART OF THE ROMF IS BEHND THAT. WE'VE MADE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF THE IMPACT AND PROXIMITY AND HOW THIS INTERFERES WITH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT DOESN'T MATCH THE CHARACTERISTIC. . >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? MR. HANGS. HANKS. >> WE APRECIATE FAIRNESS TIME FOR BOTH SIDES. ONE MORE MINUTE ON THE COMMENTS FROM OUR CAN MEETING.
THIS SPECIFIC SITE IS DESIGNATED ON THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE DURHAM'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES. NOT RESDENTIAL. THIS AREA ALSO SEEN NUMBER OF HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS. RECENTIERS AS WATER AND SEWER HAVE BEEN EXTENDED INTO THE AREA, STATED OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST HAS BEEN TIED AND AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IT WAS STATED AS THIS AS NOT IN MY BACKYARD CONCERNS. I WOULD NOTE BENEFITS OF RAIL TRANSIT PROJECT ARE CLEARLY CITY WIDE. I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT DECISIONS OFTENTIMES HAVE NEGATIVE RESULT OF DUMPING CONTROVERSIAL PROJECTS IN LOCATIONS WHERE LOCAL PEOPLE ARE NOT AS ORGANIZED, HAVE THEIR OWN VOICE IN REZONING PROCESS P. CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT DONE HERE. I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO MEET AND EXCEED ALL LOCAL AND STATE ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS IN AREAS OF STORMWATER, TREE PROTECTION AND OTHER ISSUES. RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPOSAL WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY OTHER USE OF THE SITE — NOT RESIDENTIAL, NOT COMMERCIAL, NOT INDUST — WITHOUT A NEW FULL REZONING REQUEST IN PROCESS.
I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST. THANKS. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT IS OUR LAST SPEAKER AND NOW I'M GOING TO ASK MY CITY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. COUNCIL MEMBER REECE. >> TIME FOR US TO THIEVE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN? >> PUBLIC HEARING IS REMAINING OPEN. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. >> I HAVE QUESTION FOR GOTRIANGLE STAFF. >> IF YOU ALL COULD PLEASE COME DOWN TO THE PODIUM OVER HERE TO MY RIGHT. P JOHN AND DAVE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. THANK YOU. >> QUESTION ABOUT THE ME KNOW THAT YOU PASSED OUT TONIGHT. WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN TO ME? >> WHAT WE HEARD IN THE VARIOUS COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT STAFF HAS ATTENDED AND AS EXPRESSED WITH GREAT CONCERN THIS EVENING, OF COURSE, IS THE 136 DB NOISE NUMBER AND REPRESENTING THAT THAT'S GOING BE THE NOISE FROM THE WHEEL SQUEAL WHEN THE LITE RAIL VEHICLES COME OFF THE MAIN LINE OF THE TRACK AND CURVE TO GO INTO MAINTENANCE FACILITY. >> CAN I INTERRUPT YOU; THAT'S WHAT YOUR REPORT SAYS, RIGHT? >> 136 IS IN THE NOISE VIBRATION REPORT.
IT'S NOT AN INSTANTANEOUS NOISE FROM THE WHEELS THAT GO AROUND THE CURVE, IT'S OVER THE DURATION OF A PARTICULAR NOISE THAT'S PRESCRIPTED BY THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION FOR ALL NOISE AND VIBRATION ANALYSES SO IT'S AN ACCUMULATION OF IF A NOISE OF LITE RAIL VEHICLE GOING AROUND A CUR TO'VE GO INTO MAINTENANCE BUILDING TAKES 10 SECONDS, THE 136 DB NUMBER IS ACCUMULATION OF THAT NOISE ENERGY OVER THAT 10 SECONDS BOILED DOWN TO A ONE-SECOND NOISE. THE FTA GUIDELINES FOR NOISE ANALYSIS ALSO REQUIRE AN INSTANTANEOUS NOISE OF 100 DECIBELS TO BE PRT OF THE STANDARD NOISE ANALYSIS.
FTA GUIDELINES ARE MEANT FOR ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATED TO HAVE ANALYSIS FOR ALL LITE RAIL PROJECTS. FTA HAS GUIDELINES THAT EVERY ANALYSIS HAS TO USE THOSE NUMBER ABSENT OF THE SPECIFIC RADIUS OF THE CURVES OR MITIGATION YOU DO TO CALM THE WHEEL SQUEAL. PURPOSE OF THE HANDOUT THIS EVENING WAS FOR EQUIVALENT CURVES ON NORFOLK LITE RAIL SYSTEM, A AND EQUIVALENT SPEEDS OF THE VEHICLE, 5-10 MILES PER HOUR GOING AROUND THE CURVES WHAT WAS IN THAT REPORT ARE TWO SETS OF NOISE READINGS. ONE OF THE MITIGATION ITEMS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE ANALYSIS IS LUBRICATE THE RAILS. YOU'LL SEE SOME NOISE NUMBERS THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED WHEN THE RAIL IS LUBRICATED, AND THOSE ARE ON REFERENCE TO THE PAGE IN REPORT ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE REPORT YOU'LL SEE A LIST OF COUPLE LOCATIONS IN NORFOLK ON THE LITE RAIL SYSTEM THERE AND IT IDENTIFIES WHETHER TRACK WAS LUBRICATED AND NEXT PAGE THERE'S COUPLE THAT ARE NOT LUBRICATED.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REPRESENT IS THE MAXIMUM VALUE FOR DBA IS AROUND 80 OR SO IF IT'S NOT LUBRICATED, AND AROUND 70 IF IT IS LUBRICATED. THAT IS IN COMPARISON TO WHAT THE FTA REQUIRES IN NOISE ANALYSIS TO USE A NOISE LEVEL OF 1010 FOR INSTANTANEOUS NOISE. WE'RE TRYING TO REPRESENT IS TH FTA ANALYSIS TAT EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY ALL SYSTEMS ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW IS CONSERVATIVE AND RIGHTLY SO BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY MANY VARIABLES BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SPECIFICS OF THE RADIUS OF THE CURVE AND A TYPE OF MITIGATION THAT WILL OCCUR TO QUALM WHEEL SQUEAL, AMOUNT OF NOISE IS MUCH LESS THN THE ANALYSIS REQUIRES FROM EVEN PLAYING FIELD.
APOLOGIZE FOR THE COMPLEXITY OR INCONSISTENT INFORMATION THT WAS JUST SHARED WITH WITH YOU BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BUT THAT WAS THE PURPOSE IS TO SHOW WE'LL BE LUBRICATING THE RAILS, CURVATURE ON THE RAILS ARE SAME RADIUS AS THE EXAMPLES FROM NORFOLK, SIMILAR VEHICLE, SIMILAR SPEED OF THE VEHICLE. WE'RE TRYING TO COMPARE AMS TO APPLES AND SHARE WITH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT THE ACTUAL NOISE IS GOING TO BE MUCH LESS THAN WHAT THE F THE TA REQUIRES FOR THE ANALYSIS. >> REALLY HELPFUL. APPRECIATE THAT. CAN YOU TALK — CHANGING GEARS — TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RECENT REVISION TO TABLE 6-3 FROM OCTOBER 2018 DOCUMENT PROVIDED TO US BY SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN CULP P ARBOR AND ONE OF THE FOLK WHO IS SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING SHOWED US SOME REVISIONS THAT WERE MADE TO THE DOCUMENT. CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT THAT'S ABOUT? WHAT THAT SHOWS? WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO HOMES EVEN ON THE EDGE OF CULP ARBOR? >> CERTAINLY.
ON THAT TABLE 6-3, AND WE CERTAINLY APOLOGIZE FOR THE HONEST MISTAKE, IT WAS NOT SOMETHING MEANT TO REPRESENT ANY OF THE INFORMATION, OF COURSE. WHAT YOU SEE ON TABLE 6.3 ARE COLUMNS THAT ARE LABELED MLD WHICH IS MODERATE OR SEV WHICH IS SEVERE AT THE TOP IN THE BLUE COLOR. WHAT THAT PERTAINS TO IS FOR THE FTA'S GUIDELINES, THEY HAVE THRESHOLDS OF NOISE THAT COME OUT OF THE ANALYSIS AND IF P THE THRESHOLD IS GREATER THAN A CERTAIN NUMBER, IT FALLS INTO A MODERATE CATEGORY.
IF IT'S EVEN A HIGHER NOISE LEVEL, IT FALLS INTO A SEVERE CATEGORY. REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS PER THE FTA GUIDELINES, OF COURSE ALL OF THIS IS USING PUBLIC FUNDS, SO THE FTA IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NOISE MITIGATION IS COST EFFECTIVE AND DOES THE JOB IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO. SO PERRER FTA GUIDELINES, ANYTHING THAT FALLS INTO SEVERE IMPACT CATEGORY MUST BE MITIGATED/MUST BE ADDRESSED WHETHER IT'S RETROFIT OF THE ACTUAL RAIL FACILITY OR THE HOUSES ARE RETROFITTED WITH BETTER NOISE INSULATED WINDOWS OR TREATMENTS ON THE HOUSE, ITSELF, AS AN EXAMPLE.
OR INCLUDING BERMS OF VEGETATIVE BUFFERS, OTHER ELEMENTS TO BLOCK THE NOISE. IF IT'S A MODERATE IMPACT, FTA DOES NOT REQUIRE THE PROJECT SPONSOR TO MITIGATE THOSE AS A STRICT REQUIREMENT. WHAT GOTRIANGLE'S IN THE PROCESS OF DOING BECAUSE WE HAVE NUMEROUS MODERATISM PACTS ALL ACROSS THE 18-MILE PROJECT, NOT JUST ADJACENT TO THE ROMF. ALL THE WAY FROM CHAPEL HILL, ALL THE WAY DOWN ALSTON AVENUE IN DURHAM. WHAT GO TRY ANGLE IS DOING IS WORKING ON A POLICY TO IDENTIFY, BASED ON NUMEROUS VARIABLES THAT ARE INVOLVED D WHETHER IT'S JUST INTO THE MODERATE RANGE OR ALMOST CLOSE TO THE SEVERE RANGE AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO SPEND PUBLIC MONEY ON TO MITIGATE. TO SS A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIABLES THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING TOGETHER; WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
SHOW YOU THE TABLE HERE. THE UPPER ROW THAT THE NUMBER WAS CHANGED FROM 2.2 TO 4.7, THOSE WERE TRANSPOSED BY THE CONSULTANT BY A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR. TOP ROW THERE, THOSE ARE THE HOUSES CULP ARBOR HOUSES DIRECTLY ACROSS FARRINGTON ROAD FROM THE SITE. >> INTERRUPT YOU FOR ONE SECOND. THERE'S THE ROAD NUMBERS ALONG THE TOP CULP HILL DRIVE TO EPHESUS CHURCH ROAD. THOSE THREE BOX INCREASE MODERATE TO SEVERE — >> THOSE STAY MODERATE. >> BUT — >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE THIRD COLUMN FROM THE RIGHT, OWE CASEWORK IT SAYS 4.8 WOULD KICK IT INTO A SERE CATEGORY. # .7 IS LOWER THAN THE NUMBER SO IT STAYS IN THE MODERATE RANGE. >> THE NUMBER'S 4.0 NOW ON THE ARE REVISED VERSION. >> SECOND ROW — LOOKING AT THE TOP ROW — >> NEW NUMBERS ON THE VERSION I HAVE IN THE INCREASE COLUMN ARE 4.7, 1.6 MODERATE, 4 POINT [INDISCERNIBLE] SEVERE.
>> CORRECTIONS WE HAVE FROM OUR KOL CON SUL TANT ARE TOP ROW, 2.2 CHANGES TO 4.7 WHICH IS CLOSE BUT IT'S — THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING IS IN SOME CASES IF THE MODERATE IS CLOSE TO SEVERE, WE HAVE TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO MITIGATING THT. >> WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THE DOCUMENT WE WERE PROVIDED BY THE OPPONENTS DOESN'T REFLECT THAT; WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED IS THE INCREASE COLUMN, RIGHT? TOP NUMBER AND BOTTOM NUMBER WITH YOUR FLIPPED; CORRECT? >> TO FURTHER CLARIFY THE TW WERE FLIPPED, CORRECT. SECOND ROW, 1.9 CAME 1.6 AND 4.8 BECAME 4.0 BUT THAT'S ON THE SECOND ROW OF NUMBER. >> SECOND ROW IN THE MODERATE AND SEVERE COLUMN BECAME IDENTICAL TO THE TOP ROW? >> SECOND ROW FOR THE MODERATE AND SEVERE INSTEAD OF 1.9 IT'S 1.6. THE TOP ROW IN THE INITIAL REPORT WAS 2.2, 1.9, 4.8. OTHER NUMBER CHANGES IN THE TOP ROAD IS FROM 2.2 TO 4.7. >> AGAIN THAT'S NOT WHAT'S IN THE COUNCIL MEMBER WE HAVE HERE. >> MARKED MINE UP FROM THE SHEET WE RECEIVED FROM CONSULTANT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT.
WE'RE STILL IN MODERATE RANGE, NO SEVERE, BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES IN ONE CASE WE'RE REALLY I CLOSE TO FALLING INTO THE SEVERE AND THE OTHER CASE WE'RE WELL BELOW THE SEVERE AND THAT'S WHAT THE MODERATE IMPACT WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO ADDRESS THOSE GOING FORWARD. >> THOSE ARE THE TEXT COMMITMENTS YOU'VE MADE, UM, DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS, THE BERM, THE BUFFER, THE SETBACK, ALL THAT STUFF. I'M ONE MORE. CAN YOU — IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE SITE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE ROMF WAS PRETTY LENGTHY, AND INCLUDED APPROVALS ON BEHALF OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ELECTED BOARDS AND APPOINTED BOARDS HERE IN DURHAM, I BELIEVE ORANGE COUNTY AS WELL. I BELIEVE IN OCTOBER 2015 CITY THE COUNCIL ABROVED WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS ALTERNATIVE WHICH INCLUDED THIS SITE FOR THE ROM P F, BUT METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION FOR THE TRIANGLE ALSO APPROVED A MONTH LATER.
CAN YOU SPEND A COUPLE OF MINUTES BECAUSE IT WAS RAISED BY A NUMBER OF OPPONENTS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SITING OF THE ROMF AT THIS LOCATION, WHY IT WAS DETERMINED TO BE THE BEST OF THE FIVE ALTERNATIVES. I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 19 SITES WHITTLED DOWN TO FIVE PRIMARY ALTERNATIVES AND I KNOW THAT AS FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER CATOTTI MENTIONED, SHE WAS TRIED TO FIGURE OUT OTHER SITES. WHY WAS THIS SITE ULTIMATELY SELECTED? >> NUMBER OF CRITERIA AND THIS IS DOCUMENTED IN THE DRAFT ENIERMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT PREPARED IN 2015, FOR THE PROJECT. IN ADDITION TO — AN A I'M LOOKING AT STARTING ON PAGE 8-16 IN CHAPTER 8, IN ADDITION TO THE ACTUAL TEXT OF THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT THERE WERE NUMEROUS APPEND SEES TO THAT DOCUMENT BACK IN 2015.
NONE OF THE APPEND DEE — ONE THESE WAS NOISE AND VIBRATION REPORT. IT WAS NOT JUST NE FOR THIS SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT THAT WAS PUBLICS AT THE END OF OCTOBER. THE ASSESSMENT PUBLISHED IN OCTOBER, THE PURPOSE OF THIS DOCUMENT WAS TO TAKE STUDY OF ANY CHANGES TO THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AFTER THE 2016 RECORD DECISION WE RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION. ANY CHANGES TO THE PROECT, EXAMPLE SHIFTING ALIGNMENT, CONSIDERING THE ADDITION OF MAGNUM STREET STATION; ANY CHANGES OF THE PROJECT AFTER THAT RECORD OF DECISION, A NEW ENVIRONMENTAL CHECKLIST SHARED WITH THE FTA TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT THE CHANGES ARE. THE FTA SAYS BASED ON THE VOLUME OF THE CHANGES WHETHER GOTRIANGLE NEEDS TO PREPARE — SO THAT DOCUMENT INCLUDES REFRESH OF THE NOISE AND VIBRATION REPORT BASED ON CHANGES. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT DIFFERENT ROMF SITE. 25 ACRE SITE, APPROXIMATELY, LARGEST SITE OF THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE CONSIDERED. IT'S LOCATED AT A LONG STRAIGHT SECTION OF TRACK WHICH ACCOMMODATES CROSSOVERS AND ACCESS TO THE YARD. I CAN GO THROUGH EACH OF THE OTHER FOUR ALTERNATIVES AND LET YOU KNOW WHY THOSE WERE NOT SELECTED IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> IF YOU COULD DO IT BRISKLY THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> ONE ALTERNATIVES WAS SOUTH OF THIS SITE ON THE CURTIS BOOKER PROPERTY. THAT AREA IS HISTORIC PROPERTY UH AND THE FTA REQUIRES IF THERE'S A REASONABLE AND FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE TO NOT DAMAGE OR DISRUPT HISTORICAL SITE, SO THAT SITE WAS DISCARDED. >> WHAT MADE IT HISTORICAL SITE. >> IT'S DESIGNATED BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FARM THAT WAS THERE AND THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THAT SITE JUST FROM BEEN DEZ IGING NATED BY HISTORIC DISTRICT. >> BY WHOM? >> NATIONAL REGISTER. >> THANKS. >> THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIVE THAT WAS ELIMINATED. THE NEXT ONE WAS NEAR PATTERSON PLACE AND IT'S ACTUALLY AT THE SITE OF THE NEW UNIVERSITY FOD YEAH DEALERSHIP UNDER CON CONSTRUCTION RIHT NOW. THAT SITE WAS THE ROMF WOULD TAKE UP ALL OF THAT IS SITE, IT WAS ONLY FEASIBLE FOR GOING OVER NEW HOPE CREEK NEAR 15-501, WE EVALUATED THREE SEPARATE ALIGNMENTS WHICH WENT NORTH ACROSS NEW HOPE CREEK AND OTHER TWO DEVIATED UP CLOSER TO 15-501 AND IT WAS CHOSEN BY THE FTA THE LEAST ENVIRONMENTALLY DISRUPTIVE WAS THE ALIGNMENT CLOSER TO 15-501.
THAT ALIGNMENT GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE SITE WHERE THE ROMF WOULD HAVE BEEN. THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT SITE. THE NEXT ONE AS BEEN MENTIONED BY THE AUDIENCE IS NEAR OLD PEPSI UH PLANT, NOW THE SUB STORAGE FACILITY BY WESTERN BY PASS. THAT SITE HAD NUMBER OF LOGISTICAL ISSUES. PROBLEM IS, AS IF THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT SITE AS YOU GO NORTH ON WESTERN BY PASS, THE ROAD DROPS OFF STEEPLY DOWN TO CORNWALLIS.
THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL STRUCTURE OVER TO CORNWALLIS AND SUCH. THE ROMF SITE THERE AS HAS BEEN TALKED A ABOUT THE ACCESS OFF OF THE MAIN LINE OF THE TRACK TO GET TO THE ROMF FACILITY, YOUED A EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF TRACKS THAT WERE UP IN THE AIR TO CONNECT TO THIS AREA STRUCTURE AND THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH PART OF THE SITE HAD A DEEDED PROPERTY THAT WAS PART OF THE PROFFER FOR THE SELF-STORAGE BUILDING THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN A CHUNK OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. LOGISTICALLY FOR THE RAIL OPERATIONS TO WORK, THERE WERE MANY DIFFICULTIES IN ACCESSING THE MAIN LINE SO THAT WAS THE THIRD OF THE FIVE THT GOT THROWN OUT.
LASTLY THERE WAS THE SITE WAS NEAR THE CHEMICAL FACILITY OFFER O OFTY PETTIGREW STREET. CHEMICAL PLANT AND A LOT OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS ON THE SITE. RAILROAD SPUR THAT COMES OFF OF THE MAIN LINE OF NORTH CAROLINA RAILROAD THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DISRUPTED AND THAT BUSINESS PRESENTLY EMPLOYS MORE STAFF THAN THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY WOULD HAVE EMPLOYED. SO BEING SENSITIVE TO CREATING JOBS AND NOT DISPLACING JOBS, THAT STE DROPPED OUT. >> THOSE ARE THE THREE BIG QUESTIONS I HAD. >> OTHER QUESTIONS? MIDDLETON. >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE REPUTATION OF GOTRIANGLE THIS PROCESS. THERE'S A NARRATIVE THAT'S BEEN PROLIFERATING IN OUR CITY FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CONSTITUENCIES AND GROUPS THAT SUGGEST THAT GOTRIANGLE HAS NOT BEEN FORTHCOMING SOMETIMES EVEN UNRESPONSIVE AT TIMES TO INQUIRIES FROM BUSINESS HOLDERS DOWNTOWN, A LETTER FROM DPAC CAME OUT TODAY SUGGESTING THERE WAS SOME UNRESPONSIVENESS ON THE PART OF GOTRIANGLE.
I WANT TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY DEALING WITH AN HONEST BROKER IN THIS PROCESS. I THINK THAT THE VOICES OF THE PEOPLE WO LIVE ON FARRINGTON ROAD AND CULP ARBOR ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE BOOMING INSTITUTIONAL VOICE OF DUKE, JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE VOICES OF WEALTHY LAND OWNERS DOWNTOWN AND FOR EACH OF THOSE CONSTITUENTS' CONCERNS, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF REFLECTING AND NEGOTIATING TO KEEP THEM HAPPY AND WORK OUT THE SITUATIONS THERE.
SO I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION — ONE OF TWO — ASSUMING THAT NOISE IS A PROBLEM OR WILL BE A PROBLEM AND ASSUMING THAT WE VOTE TO REZONE TONIGHT, ARE THE MITIGATION STRATEGIES THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED BY GOTRIANGLE, ARE THEY THE MOST AGGRESSIVE MET GAGS STRATEGIES AVAILABLE? LEAST EXPENSIVE? IN OTHER WORDS, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THE UTMOST THAT CAN BE DONE TO MITIGATE NOISE IN SO FAR AS THERE ARE CONCERNS. >> WE CERTAINLY TRY TO DO THINGS ALL ACROSS THE WHOLE 18 MILES OF THE PROJECT TO RESPECT AND BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC'S MONEY. WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IMPACT BROUGHT UP BY COMMUNITY BY THE UNIVERSITIES, BY THE HOSPITALS IN COST E EFFECTIVE MANNER AND ADDRESS IMPACT AS BEST WE CAN.
ALWAYS A LIMIT TO WHAT CAN BE DONE. AT THE ROMF SITE WE'VE PROFFERED AND TALKED ABOUT, THERE WAS ONE OF THE YOUNG WOMEN HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THE CAR BODY AND PAINT SHOP ISSUE. IN MANY, MANY LITE RAIL PROJECTS WITH MAINTENANCE NAH SILTS IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT WITH A VEHICLE, THEN THEY UH HAVE A PAINT SHOP AND BODY SHOP RIGHT ON-SITE TO REPAIR THE VEHICLE. IN RESPECT OF THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS, WE'VE TOLD THE DESIGN TEAM NO, WE WILL NOT HAVE A PAINT SHOP IN THAT BUILDING, WE WILL NOT DO CAR BODY WORK WHICH WILL BE NOISY IN THAT BUILDING. WE'LL TAKE IT OFF-SITE TO WHERE OUR BEST OPERATIONS ARE OR ANOTHER VENDOR BUT WE'VE MADE IT CLEAR TO DESIGN TEAM THAT THAT WILL NOT BE PART OF THE BUILDING ON THIS SITE. WE'VE INCLUDED, AS MENTIONED, A LITTLE BIT ON ADDRESS THE WHEEL SQUEAL, THE WHEELS AND THE RAILS THAT DOES A NOISE WILL BE LUBRICATED WITH SPECIAL DEVICES ALONG THE CURVATURE OF THE RAIL.
THE LITE RAIL VEHICLES WILL BE SPECIFIED WITH RESILIENT WHEELS AND MORE SPECIFICALLY TO CUT DOWN ON NOISE THE WHEEL SQUEAL GOING AROUND CURVES. >> JUST A SECOND, I UH APPRECIATE THE — I ASK FO OF CENTRAL QUESTION; ARE WE BEING AS AGGRESSIVE IN RESPONDING TO THE CONCERN WHO LIVE IN CULP ARBOR AND FARRINGTON ROAD AS WE ARE WITH DUKE BECAUSE THOSE FIXES MAY POTENTIALLY UH COST A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY TO KEEP IT ON ITS CURRENT PATH. ARE W BEING AS AGGRESSIVE IN ADDRESSING CONCERN FOR THESE FOLKS? >> I BELIEVE WE ARE, YES, SIR. >> SECOND QUESTION IS, I'M HEARTENED BY THE GREAT DAL OF CONCERN ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THAT AREA, AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THIS CONCERN WILL GO BEYOND JUST THIS ISSUE. THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF CUE SAIDS THAT WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS CITY UH SO I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN.
I UH ACTUALLY I SPOKE WITH MR. WOODS AS WELL. THERE WAS A DIRECT — AND I COME FROM A COMMUNITY UH THAT HAS SOME FAMILIARITY WITH NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON WTH PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUSHED THROUGH IN THE NAME OF PROGRESS GUESS SO I'M HIGHLY UH SENSITIVE TO THAT. SPECIFIC CHARGES MADE THAT IMMINENT DOMAIN WAS USED IN A WAY THAT GRABBED GLAK FOLKS' PROPERTY. WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT, SPECIFICALLY. — GRABBED BLACK FOLKS' PROPERTY. WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT, SPECIFICALLY? >> I THINK ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS TO DO IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS TO HAVE TO RECOMMEND GOTRIANGLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO USE IMMINENT DOMAIN TO GET PROPERTY UH THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT.
AND IN THIS CASE, AFTER THE GOOD FAITH EFFORTS OF OFFERING THE FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR THE PROPERTY IT WAS CLEAR THAT SEVERAL PROPERTY OWNERS AT THE WITH THAT OFFER, AND WE WERE – THEN FORCED TO GO INTO IMMINENT DOMAIN TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ASSEMBLAGE OF THE PROPERTY >> DID ANY WHITE PEOPLE GET THEIR PROPERTY TAKEN? >> YES. AND THEN THAT STARTS A PROCESS THROUGH WHICH WE COMMUNICATE THEIR RIGHTS TO LEASE BACK THE PROPERTY FROM US. GOT COMMUNICATES THROUGH AUGUST 2019. ONLY ONE PROPERTY OWNER WHO'S CHOSEN TO DO THAT. OTHERS HAVE NOT CHOSEN AND FOR WHATEVER REASON AND AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME OF NOT COMMUNICATING THEY'RE GOING LEASE IT BACK OR TELLING US THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LEASE IT BACK, THEN WE HAVE TO ASK THEM TO VACATE THE PROPERTY AND GIVE THEM NOTICE. THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT THIS HAS GONE THROUGH. >> OTHER QUESTIONS BUT I'LL YIELD IN INTEREST OF TIME. THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER CABALLERO. >> THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT WE HAVE BIG TURN OUT HERE OF CREEKSIDE PARENTS AND BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE INITIAL DECISION WAS KNEAD IN 2015.
AT THAT TIME WERE THERE COMMUNICATIONS WITH CREEKSIDE AND WITH WHOM? >> I DON'T UNFORTUNATELY UH KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT A QUESTION. I MIGHT TURN TO SOME OF MY OTHER STAFF HERE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER HOW WE COMMUNICATED THROUGH TO CREEKSIDE. UM… LET ME GET JEFF GREEN HERE, SENIOR PLANNER TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. >> JEFF GREEN, GOTRIANGLE. WE DID COMMUNICATE WITH DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS, INCLUDED ON OUR NOTIFICATION DURING VARIOUS PARTS OF THE PROJECT. THERE WERE AT LEAST I ELIEVE ABOUT A DOZEN LETTERS SENT TO THE SCHOOLS, NOT TO CREEKSIDE BUT TO DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE. WE DID REACHOUT TO DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT FOR OPERATIONS BACK IN 2015 ABOUT THE PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE OTHER ROMF FACILITIES IN OTER CITIES LOCATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITIES TO SCHOOLS THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? >> I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT, UNFORTUNATELY. >> WE HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT RECENTLY, AND JUST LOOKING AT THE CHARLOTTE ROMF ARE THE NEAREST EXAMPLE, THERE'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT'S ABOUT 4,400 FEET AWAY.
LANGUAGE ACADEMY ABOUT 3,800 FEET AWAY. ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ABOUT 3,300 FEET AWAY, AND PLAYGROUND AT A MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ONLY ABOUT 1,300 FEET AWAY, WHICH IS ROUGHLY THE DISTANCE THAT CREEKSIDE ELEMENTARY IS FROM FARRINGTON ROAD SITE. >> THANK YOU. >> THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR OUR STAFF AND NOT GOTRIANGLE — IS THAT STILL OKAY? >> ABSOLUTELY, YES, IT IS. QUESTIONS FOR — >> I HEARD A BUNCH OF FOLKS TALK ABOUT OUR NOISE ORDINANCE. COULD I GET SOMEONE TO TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD WORK IF THIS FACILITY IF THIS REZONING WERE TO BE APPROVED, FAILITY WERE TO BE BUILT? >> I'M GOING TO CALL ON THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
>> I DID HAVE A COPY OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE, AND LET ME BE CLEAR I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THESE CONVERSATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S COMING DOWN SO I HAVEN'T READ ANY REPORTS OR HAVEN'T HEART ANY SPECIFICS ABOUT NOISES THAT WOULD BE EMANATING FROM A PROPERTY. I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT NOISE ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN DOES SPEAK TO NOISES THAT GO OFF THE PROPERTY. SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH WHAT THE NOISE GENERATES IN AND OF ITSELF ON THE PROPERTY BUT IT ISNESSED FROM OFF THE PROPERTY AND THERE ARE SOME STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE PARTICULAR THE DECIBEL READING STANDARDS.
THERE'S TWO BASIC STANDARDS, UNREASONABLY UH LOUD AND DISTURBING STANDARD WHICH IS A PRODUCT OF NORTH CAROLINA STATE LAW AND THEN THERE'S THE MORE OBJECTIVE DECIBEL READING STANDARDS AS WELL. THOSE ARE HERE. I'VE NOT HAD A CONVERSATION WITH GOTRIANGLE SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY FEDERAL LAWS THAT MAY PREIMPLEMENT STATE STATUTES OR CITY ORDINANCES, UM, BUT, UM, BUT THERE ARE SPECIFIC NOISE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AS RELATES TO THE DECIBEL READINGS AND THAT WILL BE MEASURED OFF THE PROPERTY AND IT'S THERE'S A TIME LIMIT AS WELL FROM A I THINK FROM 7:00 A.M.
TO — WELL THE NOISE LEVEL CHANGES BETWEEN WHETHER IT'S A NIGHTTIME NOISE OR DAYTIME NOISE. >> BUT, UM, THERE'S NO EXEMPTION FOR LITE RAIL SFA FACILITY IN NOISE ORDINANCE, CORRECT? >> NOT ONE THAT EXISTS TODAY, NO. >> AND CERTAINLY NO PLANS TO CREATE ONE AS FAR AS I KNOW. SO I GUESS, THAT WAS A GOOD ANSWER TO MY QUESTION, THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBERS. MORE QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE NOISE QUESTION BRIEFLY BECAUSE THAT IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM OPPONENT AND WE'VE HEARD THE 136 DECIBEL NUMBER. AS WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT NUMBER IS AN AGGREGATION CREATED BY THE BEST AGGREGATED TOTAL OF MUCH LOWER AUH MOUNT OF NOISE EMANATING OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME >> CORRECT. WHAT LEEL OF NOISE, LIKE WHAT THE IS IS THE NOISIEST YOU UH ANTICIPATE THIS TWA SILT ACTUALLY BEING? >> GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE TE WHEEL SQUEAL AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS AN EXAMPLE FROM THE NORFOLK LITE RAIL REPORT THAT I SHARED IT'S AROUND 70 DECIBELS.
>> COULD .GIF ME A OF SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S 70 DECIBELS? >> SURE. MORE THAN 70 WOULD BE A BLOWING MOTOR, CITY BUS. WHEEL SQUEAL IS LESS THAN THOSE EXAMPLES. >> AND THAT'S AT THE SITE, LIKE AT THE TRAIN, NOT — WHAT DISTANCE? >> TYPICALLY MEASURED 50 FEET AWAY FROM THE GENERATOR OF THE NOISE AS CONSISTENT — IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT IN THE NOISE AND VIBRATION REPORT THERE'S ACTUALLY A TABLE CALLED A THEY ARE MOM HEAR THE SHOWS WHAT THE TRANSIT NOISE WOULD BE COMPARED TO COMMON NOISE YOU MIGHT HEAR CA LIKE AIR CONDITIONER. LITE RAIL NOISE LESS THAN AIR CONDITIONER, CERTAINLILESS THAN A BUS AT 50 FEET AWAY. >> OKAY. GIVEN SITE IS NEXT TO THE HIGHWAY, IS THAT PART OF THE REASON THAT THE OVERALL NOISE DIDN'T REACH IMPACT IN MOST LIKE FOR MOST OF THE AREA NEARBY? IS THAT LIKE CONSIDERED WHEN CALCULATING LEVEL OF NOISE? >> CORRECT.
WHAT'S CALLED THE AMBIENT NOISE LEVEL IS BACKGROUND NOISE SO TRAFFIC AS MANY SPEAKERS NOTED, THE TRAFFIC ON I 40 AND EVEN ON FARRINGTON ROAD GENERATES A CERTAIN LEVEL OF NOISE AND THAT'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT ON HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL NOISE MIGHT BE GENERATED. >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL PERFECTLY E CLEAR THAT 136 DECIBELS OF NOISE WHEN TRAINS GO AROUND THE TRACKS IS NOT GOING TO BE COMING FROM THIS FACILITY. >> CORRECT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. FURTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON. >> THANK YOU. PERHAPS FOR SOME OPPONENTS, A NUMBER OF THE E-MAILS WE RECEIVED ASKED FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A DELAY TO HEAR FROM OTHER RESIDENCE. I'M WONDERING — IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN — NOT SAYING IT WILL — WHAT ARE WE MISSING? WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN NAH THAT INTERIM PERIOD? WHAT DO WE NEED TO HEAR? IF THERE'S A SINGLE SPOKESPERSON — THOSE WHO CALL FOR DELAY. >> RUTH ANN, PLEASE DO.
>> [LOW AUDIO]. >> I'E BEN WORKING WITH THE GROUP THAT'S BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH JOHN SO I'M GOING TO STEP UP. WHAT WE'D NEED TO HAVE FOR EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME WOULD BE TWO THINGS AND IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING TELL ME. FIRST THING WE'D NEED IS NEW AND VALID NOISE STUDY. WE'RE WORKING FROM THEIR NUMBERS. THE NUMBERS, CHARLIE, ON THAT CHART THAT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT, WERE FROM JEFF GREEN, THE 4 4.0 NUMBER — THAT WAS FROM JEFF GREEN.
WE WANT A DIFFERENT NOISE STUDY. NEUTRAL EXPERT LOOK AT IT. NEUTRAL COMPANY TO CONDUCT IT. WE WANT TO BE SATISFIED THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING OUR SPOUSES AND OURSELVES AND SCHOOL CHILDREN AT RISK. IT SEEMS UNCONSCIONABLE TO ME TO MAKE THIS — SECOND THING WE WANT IS WE WANT TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT SITE. THEY'VE GOT SITES THEY'VE LOOKED AT. HAD SITES THEY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT. WE'VE BEEN IN THE ROOM WITH THEM AND TO THEIR CREDIT GOTRIANGLE HAS BEEN FORTHCOMING ONE-ON-ONE IN TE LAST FOUR WEEKS BUT THEY KEEP TELLING US THINGS THAT MAKE IT WORSE. THERE ARE PLACES WHERE YOU HAVE RAIL STOPS, TRAIN STOPS WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET ON THAT ARE NOT YET DEVELOPED THAT ARE PLANNED FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE PERFECTLY — AS FAR AS I KNOW — MORE LOGICAL PLANNING DECISION TO MAKE.
SO WE WOULD LIKE OTHER SITES LOOKED AT AND COMPARED GIVEN CURRENTLY NOW 2018, WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE, AND W WOULD LKE TO NOISE STUDY. AM I MISSING ANYTHING FROM MY CROWD? >> LOW AUDZ. [LOW AUDIO]. >> THANK YOU. >> NOTIFY CREEKSIDE PARENTS. >> PLEASE TAKE A SEAT. >> I THINK THERE'S A MAJORISH SWHU CREEKSIDE PARENTS. THE SCHOOL TAKEN POSITION THAT POLITICAL ISSUES CAN NO BE DISCUSSED ON SCHOOL GROUNDS. I DON'T KNOW THE REASONS FOR THAT, BUT I WOULD THINK SAFETY IS ONE REASON, AND AS SO THE PARENTS DON'T GET INFORMATION WHEN GOTRIANGLE CONTACTS ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, NOT ONLY PARNS NOT GETTING DIRECT NOTIFICATION BUT SCHOOL REFUSES TO PASS THAT INFORMATION ON. I'VE SEEN THOSE E-MAILS MYSELF. >> DO YOU CONSIDER THE ATTESTATIONS MADE BY YOUR NEIGHBORS WHO WERE RELYING ON THEIR EXPERTISE BY VIRTUE OF THEIR TRAINING, DO YOU CONSIDER THOSE NEUTRAL? >> NOT UNDERSTANDING.
>> THE FOLK WHO SAID WHO MADE COMMENTS ABOUT THE NOISE, ARE THEY NEUTRAL. >> TWO NOISE EXPERTS? >> YES. >> DO I CONSIDER THEM NEUTRAL? I DO. I ALSO TALKED WITH — WHAT IS IS HIS NAME — STEWART FROM STEWART ACOUSTICS. HE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO TAKE IT ALL ON, BUT HE'S THE FIRST PERSON I GOT A HOLD OF. HE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO E E-MAIL ME THAT THE STUDY IS CONFUSING AND ALARMING. >> THANK YOU. >> PUBLIC HEARING'S OVER. SORRY. >> ASKED FOR NUMBERS. >> SI, YOU CAN'T GIVE ME THAT, SIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANYMORE QUESTIONS. AT THIS POINT AISLE DECLARE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AN MATTER NOW BEFORE THE COUNCIL. THERE MAY BE MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR IF COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO MAKE STATEMENTS AT THIS POINT. ANYMORE QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE FOR GOTRIANGLE STAFF. MR. CHARTERS. >> AND YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE OUT.
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT DID YOU ANTICIPATE THE NOISE THAT WOULD BE HEARD AT THE SCHOOL WOULD BE BECAUSE I THINK UH THAT ONE OF THE MOST CONCERNS I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IS THAT THE NOISE AT THE SCHOOL WOULD BE VERY LOUD, IT WOULD BE INTERRUPT INSTRUCTION, HEARD THE ABILITY OF KIDS TO LEARN, KIDS WOULD HAVE TO WEAR — >> — NOISE-CANCELLING HEADPHONES. >> WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF WHAT THE NOISE LEVELS WE MIGHT EXPECT AT CREEKSIDE WOULD BE? >> THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE DOESN'T HAVE — IT WASN'T IMPACT TO THE SCHOOL, NOT DOCUMENTED EXACTLY UH WHAT THE LEVEL IS THERE. WE KNOW IT'S QUARTER OF A MILE, SOME FOLKS MENTIONED A THIRD OF A MILE AWAY AND THE NOISE IS GOING TO DISSIPATE SIGNIFICANTLY UH. WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE NOISE FROM THE SCHOOL BUSES THAT ARE THERE ARE AS LOUD OR LOUDER THAN WHAT THEY WILL HEAR FROM THE MANT MAINTENANCE FACILITY.
>> SCHOOL BUS THAT'S STARTING UP IS ABOVE — >> SO BY THE TIME THE NOISE GETS — WE'RE TALKING OVER A THOUSAND FEET, 1,300 FEET OR SO FROM WHERE THE NOISE IS GENERATED SOME ELEVATION UP AND OVER AND ACROSS ALL THE WOODED AREAS AND DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AND SUCH THAT ARE GOING BLOCK THE NOISE, I CAN'T MATCH THAT IT WOULD EVEN BE HEARD TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. >> THANK YOU. UM, THE — THINK ABOUT WORKING WITH THIS COMMUNITY, LET'S ASSUME THAT WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS REZONING AND YOU ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT MITIGATION; HOW WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE OVER THIS LITE RAIL WE'RE TEN YEARS AWAY FROM RUNNING A LITE RAIL ASSUMING THAT THE LITE RAIL DOES GET FUNDED AND APPROVED AND SO FORTH; HOW WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS REZONING AND SHOULD THE LITE RAIL GET BUILT, UM, IN TERMS OF FUTURE MITIGATION OF NOISE.
WHAT WOULD A PROCESS LOOK LIKE AND HOW WOULD YOU MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT ANY FUTURE MITIGATIONS? >> GREAT QUESTION. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD MENTIONED OR SHARE WITH COMMUNITY IN ONE OF THE — ACTUALLY AT CREEKSIDE — ONE OF THE PAST PUBLIC MEETINGS WE HAD KIND OF A WORKSHOP WHERE WE HAD A PAL LET OF DIFFERENT CHOICES FOR FENCES AND BUFFER TO SOLICIT FROM THE COMMUNITY WHAT WERE THEIR CHOICES THAT COULD BE ALONG PERIMETER ALONG THE EDGE OF FARRINGTON ROAD. WE WERE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO REVISIT THAT SINCE IT'S BEN MAYBE OVER A YEAR OR SO SINCE THAT OCCURRED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON THE TYPE OF FENCE, HOW OPAQUE, HOW SOLID VERSUS PERMEABLE TO TO VIEW. THE LEVEL OF THE NOISE IS PRESCRIBED BY THE FTA ON WHAT HAS TO BE IN THE MODEL. GOING FORWARD, AS PART OF MITIGATION PLAN THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT FOR THE MODERATE INTAX WHICH CULP ARBOR IS UNDER, CERTAINLY LOOKING AT MEASURING THE NOISE; SO THERE'S UNCERTAINTY THERE ON FINISHED PRODUCT.
WE CAN WORK WITH TE COMMUNITY TAKE NOISE OF READINGS EVEN AT THEIR HOUSES IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'D BE INTERESTED IN AS WE HAVE ARE THE FACILITY BUILT IF WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE THE REZONING PASS THIS EVENING AND WORK WITH COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY UH MEASURE REAL-LIFE READINGS SIMILAR FLOOR WHAT WAS IN THE HAMPTON ROADS LITE RAIL REPORT THAT I SHARED AFTER THE FACT IS ALWAYS MORE ACCURATE THAN TRYING TO DECIPHER A MODEL.
>> AM TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE TIME YOU WOULD HAVE REALITY THERE WOULD BE NINE YEARS FROM NOW OR SOMETHING WHERE LITE RAIL IS NOT OPERATING BUT YOU'RE BEGINNING TO RUN TRAINS INTO THE ROMF AND ABLE TO ACTUALLY UH MEASURE — >> YES, SIR. >> — THAT ACTUAL SITUATION? >> CORRECT. >> AND THEN SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT WOULD GIVE SOME REAL-LIFE TO WHAT IS OTHERWISE BASICALLY MODELLING AND USING EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS SUCH AS NORFOLK? >> CORRECT. >> OKAY. >> [LOW AUDIO]. >> OKAY. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL M QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBERS? COUNCIL MEMBER CABALLERO. >> JUST THINKING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE TESTING PORTION ON THE CURVE AND THERE'S FALL – DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO MITIGATE NOISE.
WOULD GOTRIANGLE BE AVAILABLE TO BE MORE AAGGRESSIVE? MAYBE BE KINDER TO THOSE FOLKS? >> WE'RE HAPPY TO EVALUATE THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE REAL-LIFE NUMBERS IF THAT'S WHAT'S AGREED UPON TO ADDRESS CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER TOO THIS IS ALL PUBLIC MONEY SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO SATISFY THE IMPACTS THAT WE'RE CAUSING BUT OBVIOUSLY WITHIN REASON. >> YOU HAVE MODERATE IMPACTS AT VARIOUS MACES ALONG THE LINE I HEARD YOU SAY AS WELL SO I ASSUME THESE SAME SORTS OF PROCESSES WOULD OPERATE AS THESE PLACES A AS WELL NOT JUST WHERE THE ROMF IS? >> YES, SIR.
>> SO YOU'D BE LOOKING FOR MITIGATION ONCE MORE INFORMATION? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER FREE MANN. >> I I'M IN AWE AND THANKFUL AND FOR MORE CLARITY TO COME OUT OF GOTRIANGLE. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO ASK — I'M GLAD ALL MY OTHER COLLEAGUES HAVE ASKED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS. I'M LEARNING TO WAIT. I HAD COUPLE QUESTIONS AROUND THE BUFFERS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD HAVE ANY FAPHASING PLANS AROUND THOSE BUFFERS CONSIDERING IT'S TEN YEARS OU. WOULD YOU BE WORKING TO BUILD TREE HEIGHTS OVER TIME OR INSTALLING AFTER CONSTRUCTION? >> TO CLARIFY CONSTRUCTION PHASE FOR THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW THE WAY WE HAVE IT PACKAGES BECAUSE 18 MILES OF LITE RAIL IS A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY, SO WHAT WE'RE CALLING CIVIL REST PACKAGE FROM UNC HOSPITALS TO JUST EAST OF PATTERSON PLACE IS FIRST CONSTRUCTION PLACE ADVERTISED TO BE BUILT.
THAT CONTRACTOR WILL DO A ROUGH GRADING AT THE ROMF SITE, BUILD SOME RETAINING WALLS, ETC. WE COULD CONSIDER INCLUDING IN THAT THE BERM CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE VEGETATION THAT'S GOING TO BE PLANTED ON TOP OF THE BERM. SOME FOLKS TALKED ABOUT A SINGLE ROW OF EVER GREEN TREES BUT THAT'S IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S PLANNED TO BE PLANTED ON TOP OF THE BUFFER, SO ONE OF THE THINGS QUESTION LOOK AT IN OUR CONSTRUCTION PACKAGING IS IF WE START THE GROWTH SOONER THEN THE TREES WILL BE AT A HIGHER ELEVATION TO HELP BLOCK THE A FACILITY. I HAVE DONE SOME QUICK MATH, AND BASED ON THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING ALONG FARRINGTON ROAD, THE BUILDING THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE ENTRANCE TO THE SOUTH END WHICH IS CLOSER TO THE ENTRANCE OF CULP ARBOR IT WOULD BE ABOUT 12 FEET ABOVE THE TOP OF THE BERM COUNTING VEGETATIVE BUFFER; SO MOST OF THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO BE BLOCKED BY BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION DOWN IN THE SITE.
THE MAIN BUILDING, ITSELF, ONLY THE UPPER 20 FEET WOULD BE ABOVE THE BERM, BUT AGAIN THE VEGETATION WOULD BLOCK. ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN CONSIDER IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASING AS I MENTIONED, THE PACKAGING, IS PERHAPS STARTING VEGETATIVE GROWTH IN THE FIRST PACKAGE SO THAT THE SECOND CONSTRUCTION PACKAGE ACTUALLY BUILDING THE THE ROMF FACILITY SO THIS GROWTH CAN BE IN PLACE AND GROWING AND HELPING TO DEFLECT THE NOISE AND THE VISUAL IMPACT EVEN BEFORE THE BUILDING IS BUILT SO WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT. >> AND ALONG THOSE SAME LINES I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR SOME FEEDBACK; THERE WERE COMMENTS ABOUT BUILDING IN THE WETLANDS AND FILLING IN WETLANDS. I'M UNCLEAR BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I I HEARD. >> SO THE 18-MILE PROJECT — I APOLOGIZE I DON'T HAVE TOTAL NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET OF WETLANDS OR ACRES, THAT THE ENTIRE PROJECT SINCE IT'S LINEAR PROJECT FOR 18 MILES LONG IT'S GOING TO GET PERMITS FROM THE CORE OF ENGINEERS, 404 AND 401 PERMITS TO CONSTRUCT BEEN THE BUFFERS AND WETLANDS AS A PROJECT-WIDE PERITTING.
WITHIN THE ROMFS ITSELF, I ADDED DATA FROM DEIS AND THE COMPARISON, TALKING ABOUT FRACTIONS OF AN ACRE THAT ARE IMPACTED — IT'S NOT LARGE QUANTITIES. THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN WHAT WOULD BE A PERMIT FOR WH WILL 18-MILE CORRIDOR BECAUSE WE HAVE NUMEROUS LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE IMPACTS TO WETLANDS AND STREAM IMPACTS AND IT'S TREATED AS AN ENTIRE PERMIT FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT. >> SPECIFIC TO THIS ROMF LOCATION, HOW MANY — >> MITIGATION. >> — FRACTIONS OF AN ACRE? >> MITIGATE THOSE IMPACTS WE WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE MITIGATION TO ADDRESS WETLAND CONSTRUCTION ELSEWHERE FOR THE WETLAND IMPACTS WE WOULD HAVE AT THE DIFFERENT SITES ALONG THE WHOLE 18 MILES. >> AND THIS ROMF LOCATION, HOW MANY FRAKS OF AN ACRE? — FRACTIONS OF AN ACRE? >> THIS THAT LAND ACRES IT'S .33 WETLAND ACRES IS WHAT'S IN THE DEIS LOOKING AT TABLE — >> THAT'S FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT — >> JUST FOR THE ROMF ARE AREA.
>> I DON'T HAVE THE ENTIRE PROJECT IN FRONT OF ME. >> THAT'S A THIRD OF AN ACRE. >> THIRD OF AN ACRE OF WETLANDS IS IMPACTED BY THE ROMF. >> ALSO ADDITIONAL QUESTION ABOUT THIS SUBSTANCE LIST, APPARENTLY IT'S NOT READILY AVAILABLE. >> OKAY. IS THERE A SPECIFIC QUESTION? >> I DON'T HAVE IT. >> YOU DON'T HAVE IT. OKAY. I BELIEVE THIS WAS A LIST OF INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY, SO I HAVE A COPY UH HERE WHICH WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL. >> JUST TELLS ABOUT IT. >> LIT OF ABOUT FOUR PAGES OF VARIOUS MATERIALS — A LOT OF IT IS GREEN MATERIALS, GREECES, GEAR OIL, NO GASOLINE OR DIESEL FUEL OF THE SITE.
WE SPECIFICALLY ARE REQUIRING WHAT WE CALL THE NON-REVENUE VEHICLES, SO OTHER THAN THE TRAINS WHICH DO NOT HAVE ANY GASOLINE BECAUSE THEY'RE ELECTRICALLY POWERED, THE ROMF FACILITY HAS PICKUP TRUCKS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT TO MAINTAIN TRACKS ALONG ASSIGNMENT. WE SAID NO, NO GASOLINE OR DIESEL FUEL ON THE SITE FOR THOSE VEHICLES, THEY'LL GO OFF-SITE OR HAVE VEHICLES SERVICED. >> OFF-SITE IS LIKE TO THE BUS? >> CORRECT. BUS OR SOME OTHER CONTRACTED GARAGE WHERE YOU WOULD NORMALLY GET YOUR OIL CHANGED ON YOUR PERSONAL CAR. >> NOT SURE IF IT'S YOU THAT NEEDS TO SPEAK TO THIS BUT THERE WAS QUESTION ARND ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT FOR THE RAIL LINE AND UH HOW THERE WASN'T ANY. >> ACCESS TO AIRPORT, OKAY. ALWAYS A POPLAR TOPIC.
LITE RAIL PROJECT IS PART OF REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN AS MANY OF US ARE AWARE. OUR FRIENDS IN WAKE COUNTY HAVE TALKED HAVE A BRT PLANS A AND COMMUTER RAIL PLAN THAT WOULD CONNECT DURHAM AND RALEIGH. ONE OF THE STOPS OR STATIONS ALONG THE COMMUTER RAIL WOULD BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE AIRPORT THAT WOULD THEN BE A SHUTTLE. PURPOSE OF THE LITE RAIL PROJECT IS NOT TO GET TO AIRPLANE, PER SE. MANY, MNY CITIES, THE FIRST LITE RAIL PROJECT SINCE THE RIDERSHIP TO THE AIRPORT IS SOMEWHAT VARIABLE COMPARED TO DENSITY ALONG ALIGNMENT WITH APARTMENTS THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS COST EFFECTIVE AS THE FIRST ALINE.
TO BE BUILT, AND SO — >> BU IT DOES LEAVE ACCESS FOR FUTURE? >> YES, MA'AM. >> QUESTION FOR STAFF ABOUT THE SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS. THERE WAS A MENTION OF US NOT MEETING THE SIGNAGE REQUIREMENT; I WANT TO MAKE UH SURE IT WAS. >> PLANNING STAFF. >> NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT. >> ONE OPPONENT MENTIONED THERE WASN'T SUFFICIENT SIGNAGE. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT. >> JAMIE SUNYAK. >> POSTING OF THE PROPERTY. >> PROPERTY HAS BEEN POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATUTE. WE HAVE AFFIDAVITS DOWN IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO THAT EFFECT. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. NOT SURE WHO THIS IS FOR BUT MR. WOODS MENTIONED THAT HE BELIEVES THAT GOTRIANGLE HAD FALSIFIED INFORMATION ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICAN FAMILY MEMBERS IN A REPORT AND SO IFRGS WONDERING IF YOU COULD COMMENT ON THAT.
>> WE CERTAINLY DID NOT FALSIFY ANY INFORMATION IN A REPORT. WHAT WE CONDUCTED AS PART OF THE ES ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT IS WHAT'S CALLED TITLE SIX EQUITY ANALYSIS. TITLE SIX OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT AND THAT'S REQUIRED OF ANY UH TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENT THAT USES FEDERAL MONEY, AND IT LOOKS AT THE ENTIRE IMPACT ZONE THAT'S DEFINED, SO IT'S NOT JUST THE PROPERTIES, ITELF, BUT THE AREA AROUND THAT, THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO IMPACTS FOR EACH OF THE SITES. THESE ARE THE FIVE SITES. WE DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM OF KNOWING INCOME LEVEL OF EACH PROPERTY OWNER SO WE USE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY UH WHICH IS U.S. CENSUS CORRECT DATA EVERY YEAR. WE USE THE DATA BETWEEN 2007-2011, CALLED FIVE-YEAR ESTIMATE. LOOK AT PERCENTAGE OF MINORITY THAT ARE IN DISTRICT AROUND EACH PROPERTY AND COMPARE THAT TO THE AREAS AVERAGES. IN THE CASE THE STUDY AREA, WHICH IS THE ENTIRE LRT PROJECT STUDY AREA, LOOKED AT THE RACIAL MAKEUP AND THE INCOME, LOW INCOME ABOVE THAT FOR BOTH THOSE CATEGORIES AND THEN YOU SEE SIE IMPACT HIGHER THAN THE OVERALL AVERAGE SO NUMBER OF MINORITIES PERRER SEN TEENAGE OF MINORITIES AROUND EACH SITE GREATER THAN THE STUDY AREA PERCENTAGE OF MINORITIES.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE — THEN WE HAVE TO SET A THRESHOLD THAT IS MEANINGFUL THRESHOLD. IN THIS CASE FOR THE STUDY AREA, IT WAS 51% MINORITY AND THE FARRINGTON ROAD ROMF WAS 31% MINORITY, AND I WAS 43% LOW INCOME AND FOR THE FARRINGTON ROMF LOCATION WAS 22% LOW INCOME. WE DO THAT AND SAY THIS DOES NOT HAVE DISPARATE IMPACT ON MINORITIES OR IMPACT ON LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS LIVE AROUND THIS PARTICULAR SITE. THAT'S UH HOW WE DO ANALYSIS. >> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL START OFF, I VERY MUCH WANT TO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. THIS HAS BEEN, THIS IS DURHAM DEMOCRACY AT WORK AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE FOR IT BOTH PRO AND CON. APPRECIATE ALL MEETINGS LED UP TO IT. SO MANY PEOPLE HERE HAVE DONE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK TO GET TO THIS NIGHT DOING PERSONAL RESEARCH, HAVE MEETINGS, ORGANIZED, AND COUNCIL MEMBER FREE MANN MENTIONED HER ADMIRATION OF AND THIS LET ME JUST SECOND THAT FOR PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE. ONE THINGS ABOUT — THIS IS MY 11th YEAR IN PUBLIC OFFICER AND WHEN MOST PEOPLE ARE IN THE ROOM, THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW THE DECISION YOU MAKE CAN'T BE ANYTHING ABOUT POLITICS, THAT'S WHEN YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE SURE ABOUT THAT.
EASEST TIME TO BE SURE FOR ME. YOU HAE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY BEST FOR DURHAM BECAUSE POLITICAL PRESSURE'S ON ALL SIDES. I HAD TO THINK ABOUT FOR MYSELF IS CONFIRMATION BIAS, GUARDING AGAINST THAT. I AM A LITE RAIL PROPONENT, BEEN ONE FOR LONG TIME, AND SO I UH REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS QUESTION AND SOME OF YOU ALL RAISED THIS, THE NEED TO E EVALUATE THIS ROMF ISSUE, AND I HAVE — AND THIS REZONING ISSUE, AND SO IT'S NOT THAT I UH FEEL LIKE I CAN SEPARATE IT FROM THE LITE RAIL AS A WHOLE, I CAN'T, BUT CAN I MAKE AN INDEPENDENT DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS ROMF HAS THE EFFECTS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
I'VE VISITED CULP ARBOR AND CHARLOTTE ROMF MYSELF WHEN THE ROMF CITING WAS TAKING PLACE AND ALONG WITH THAT WERE SOME FOLKS FROM CULP ARBOR WHO E WE HAD ALONG WITHTOUS GO DOWN TO CHARLOTTE TO SEE AT THAT TIME. I'M JUST — I'LL TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT I HAVE DEFINITELY SATISFIED THAT THE ROMF OUGHT THAT THIS PROPERTY OUGHT TO BE REZONED FOR THE ROMF AND I WILL BE VOTING ACCORDINGLY. LET ME TELL YOU WHY. FIRST OF ALL, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT SOME CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED IN THE PAST DIDN'T REALLY SEEM TO COME UP TONIGHT AND FOR GOOD REASON.
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT TRAFFIC. TRAFFIC AT THIS ON FARRINGTON ROAD AND IN THIS AREA IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LESS THAN WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE DEVELOPED AS STAFF REPORT SHOWS AND I'VE SEEN STAFF REPORT ON TRAFFIC AND THEY UH DO GOOD JOB. LESS TRAFFIC THAN WHATEVER ELSE WOULD BE DEVELOPED THERE. I THINK THAT THE — I'VE BEEN HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROMF OR THE LITE RAIL UH I HAVE VISITED AREAS TO THE EAT OF I 40 WHERE THERE IS DEFINITELY IMPORTANT STORMWATER CONCERNS, NO QUESTION.
RUNOFF FROM I 40 AND THAT AREA IS VERY SIGNIFICANT AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE SERIOUSLY FOR WHATEVER HAPPENS ON THIS ROMF SITE NEEDS TO HAVE REALLY GOOD STORMWATER MITIGATION, VERY IMPORTANT AND SOMETHING THE CITY HAS STRONG REGULATION OF AND NEED TO MKE SURE THAT REGULATION IS WORKING. ONE OTHER THING I DID NOT HEAR ABOUT TONIGHT BUT WHICH I THINK I IS IN SOME WAYS VERY IMPORTANT HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS TO PROPERTY VALUES WHEN YOU A ROMF? ONE INTERESTING FIGURES I'VE SEEN RECENTLY THAT FROM THESE ARE JUST REPORTED FROM ZILLOW, THIS IS HAVING TO DO WITH CHARLOTTE ROMF WHICH AGAIN I'VE BEEN TO AND YEAH SO JUST LET ME TELL YOU LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
3,600 SQUARE FOOT HOME A THOUSAND FOOT AWAY UH FROM CHARLOTTE ROMF AND IT'S LISTED FOR $925,000. THERE'S A DUPLEX ON STREET 800 FEET FROM CHARLOTTE ROMF GOING FROM $579,000. THE LUXURY APARTMENTS — IF EVER GO TO CHARLOTTE YOU'LL SEE THIS, THERE ARE LUXURY APARTMENTS THAT LITERALLY UH OVERLOOK CHARLOTTE ROMF AND THESE ARE — AND THEY OVERLOOK CHARLOTTE ROMF IN AN AIR YOU ARE YEAH WHERE — AND I'VE BEEN TO THIS WHERE YOU GET THE MOST CURVATURE, MOST WHEEL SQUEAL. 539 SQUARE FOOT LEASING FOR $1,350 A MONTH. CHARLOTTE ROMF IS DEFINITELY NOT DIMINISHED PROPERTY VALUES AT ALL. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER CONCERNS THAT I THINK UH HAVE IMPORTANT HERE THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT I'VE REALLY TRIED TO CONSIDER. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS THAT I GET WHY PEOPLE CONCERNED THERE COULD BE AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU; I TOTALLY GET THAT. IF I HEARD THAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED AS WELL BUT HAVING BEEN TO THE CHARLOTTE ROMF AND KNOWING WHAT'S PLANNED FOR THIS ROMF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FACTORY WHICH IS WHAT I THINK OF WHEN I THINK OF INDUSTRIAL FACILITY. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY NICE BUILDING AND HAVING BEEN TO CHARLOTTE ROMF IT'S GOING BE A BUILDING THAT THEY'RE PROUD OF THEIRS AND LOOKS KIND OF LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING AND I THINK WE WILL HAVE A GOOD BUILDING THAT WON'T FEEL ANYTHING LIKE A FACTORY; IT'LL BE A SLEEK MODERN BUILDING WHERE TRAINING ARE WASHED AN REPAIRED.
I WAS AT THE CHARLOTTE ROMF IN 2015, MAYBE 16, AD WE HAD A MEETING UPSTAIRS ON THE SECOND FLOOR. WE WERE THERE TO FIND OUT ABOUT WHAT ROMF WAS LIKE FOR THE SAME REASON YOU ALL HAVE WANTED TO. WE HAD THIS MEETING ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND AT THE END OF THE MEETING ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS OF THE CHARLOTTE ROMF SAID, DID YOU HEAR ANY TRAINS TODAY? >> NO, I DIDN'T. TWO TRAINS WENT UNDER THE OFICE BUILDING — WE WERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WENT UNDERNEATH US ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND MADE A TURN AROUND INTO THE ROMF AND WE DIDN'T HEAR THEM — WE WERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR. WHILE OUR CURVATURE IS GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT THE WHEEL SQUEAL WILL BE MORE THAN CHARLOTTE, I STILL THINK THAT'S A RELEVANT EXPERIENCE. NOISE IS MOST CONCERN. I WOULD BE CONCERNED TO AND I THINK UH ALL ARE RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT AS TIME MOVES FORWARD ONCE WE KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAT THERE BE THE KIND OF MITIGATION THAT WILL MAKE THESE NOSEs ONES ALL CAN MITIGATE IT.
I UH WILL TELL YOU ONE THING I UH FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THAT I THINK IS — I THINK NOISE CONCERNS AT CULP ARBOR ARE SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING AND THINKING ABOUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I DO'T FEEL SAME WAY ABOUT THE SCHOOL. CHARLOTTE ROMF SITE HAS A SCHOOL AS JOHN READ ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE AWAY AS CREEKSIDE. THERE ARE NOT GOING BE NOISE EFFECTS AT THE SCHOOL. EVERY TIME DIESEL BUS STARTS OFF AT THE SCHOOL IT HAS 80 DECIBEL SOUND AT THE SCHOOL. THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT, MUCH, MUCH LOUDER THAN A 60 OR 70 DECIBEL SOUND 1,300 FEET AWAY OVER ALL KINDS OF TOPOGRAPHY. I DO NOT BELIEVE, AND I AM CONCERNED THAT THE, THAT THE PARENTS A AT THE SCHOOL HAVE BEEN MADE TO THINK OR LED TO THINK UH THERE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT NOISE IMPACTS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE WILL BE AND I WORRY THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING MISLED TO THINK E THAT, NOT PURPOSELY, NOT THAT SOMEONE IS TRYING TO MISLEAD THEM BUT THAT THE INFORMATION ISN'T GOOD AND I THINK THE INFORMATION DAVE CHARTERS GAVE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
THE SCHOOL BUS THAT STARTS OFF IN THE PARKING LOT AT THE SCHOOL HAS AN 80 DECIBEL NOISE LEVEL EVERY TIME IT STARTS. THAT'S MORE THAN THE WHEEL SQUEAL WILL BE AT THE ROMF 1,300, 1,500 FEET AWAY. I THINK THAT'S REALLY I, REALLY IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT, AND IN TERMS OF THIS, YEAH, SO — I DO BELIEVE THE LITE RAIL WILL BE TRANSFORMATIONAL FOR OUR REGION BUT I NEED TO MAKE A DECISION DESPITE THAT ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL REZONING. I KNOW THAT THE QUESTION ABOUT THE GOING TO THE AIRPORT; THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST BACKBONE OF A REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. OUR NEXT STEP WILL BE COMMUTER RAIL AND THAT WILL GO FROM DURHAM TO RALEIGH.
PARTNER IN RALEIGH NOW. THERE WILL BE A WAY TO EASILY TRANSFER TO GET TO THE AIRPORT. THIS IS ALSO TEN YEARS AWAY. ONE INTERESTING THINGS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE LITE RAIL, ONE IMPORTANT THING, IS WE HAVE CALLED THE BUST MITT. WE HAVE 20,000 PEOPLE THAT RIDE THE BUS EVERY DAY P. WE TRY TO IMPROVE BUS SERVICE AND KEEP EXPENSES LOW, KEEP THE FA FAIRS — FARES LOW.
LITE RAIL WILL HAVE SAME FARES AS BUSES, BUT IN ADDITION LITE RAIL WILL REAP BUS DIVIDEND. LI LINES — IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR REGION WE'RE E EITHER GOING TO BE STUCK IN TRAFFIC FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE AND LONG BEYOND IT UNLESS WE HAVE A STRONG REGIONAL TRANSIT SYSTEM WHICH WILL INCLUDE LITE RAIL, COMMUTER RAIL, AND BUS. THAT'S ABSOLUTE ESSENTIAL IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT THE MOST, IF WE MEAN IT ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO I OUR REGION THAT'S MORE PORN THAN LITE RAIL. LITE RAIL IS BIGGEST SINGLE STEP WE CAN CHANGE. BIGGEST SINGLE STEP WE CAN TAKE IN ORDER TO HAVE AN AFFECT ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND I WAS APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYBODY IN HERE EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR LITE RAIL BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPORTANT.
BUT AGAIN, I HAD TO ASK MYSELF, OKAY, IS THERE A PERSUASIVE CASE AGAINST ROMF REZONING? AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS. I THINK THE NOISE CONCERNS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND I KNOW OVERTIME WE'LL NEED TO REALLY ENFORCE, WORK WTH GOTRIANGLE AND ENFORCE THEIR MITIGATION OF THE NOISE CONCERNS WHICH WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT OVERTIME. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AND I'LL NO TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL COLLEAGUES FOR THEIRS AS WELL. COUNCIL MEMBER REECE.
>> LIKE MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE ME I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT AND A SPOKE TONIGHT. IT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE KIND OF DEMOCRACY WE HAVE IN DURHAM WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME EXPRESS THEMSELVES. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO CORRESPOND BY E-MAIL, MAILED LETTERS TO FOLKS WHO REACHED OUT. I RECEIVED ONE PHYSICAL LETTER FRIDAY AFTERNOON THAT I COULD NOT RESPOND TO SO HOPEFULLY I'LL TRACK THAT PERSON DOWN AND TALK TO THEM. I HATE THOSE CRIME SHOWS WHERE THE JUDGE IS HANDING DOWN A VERDICT AN THEY'RE LIKE ON ONE HAND AND THE OTHER HAND AND DELAYED THE INEVITABLE AND I HAD JUDGES DO THAT AND IT WAS ANNOYING SO I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
I'LL TELL FOLKS RIGHT NOW THAT I INTEND TO SUPPORT THE REZONING REQUEST BY GOTRIANGLE. I'M NOT GOING REPEAT A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU SAID, MR. MAYOR, BUT I WANT TO SAY TWO THINGS ABOUT THIS. FIRST OF ALL, I AM ONE OF THE MOST PERSUASIVE ARGUMENTS AGAINST — I DON'T KNOWON KNOW IT WAS AAINST — WAS POSED BY MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON, HE ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND THAT WAS ARE WE AS A COMMUNITY BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE CONCERNS OF POWERFUL INTERESTS IN THE COMMUNITY WHILE WE REFUSE LISTEN TO THE FOLK WHO LIVE NEAREST THE FACILITY. POWERFUL QUESTION, RESPECT YOU FOR RAISING IT, COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON, AND I I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIE THINKING ABOUT THIS. BEFORE THIS WHEN WE WERE IN OFFICE TALKING ABOUT IT THIS AFTERNOON, UM, I GUESS I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IT APPEARS TO ME E FROM WHERE I SIT THAT THE GENU-FLEKTING THAT SO MANY OF US RECEIVE IS BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES REQUIRED SEEMINGLY AT THE LAST MINUTE THAT FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY — STAKEHOLDERS WHO'S PARTICIPATION IN LITE RAIL IS CRITICAL TO ITS SUCCESS — HAVE BEEN TAKEN BY SURPRISE ABOUT AND SO SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES, SOME OF THE GENU-FLEKTING IF YOU WANT TO KEEP USING THAT WORD HAS BEEN BECAUSE OF THAT STARK REALITY, BUT I THINK THE CONCERNS RAISED BY PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR THIS LOCATION HAVE BEEN BAKED INTO THE DESIGN OF THE FACILITY FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND THAT'S WHY, COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON, WHEN YOU ASKED THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM GOTRIANGLE ARE WE BEING AS AGGRESSIVE IN CONSIDERING THESE CONCERNS AS WE ARE THE ORE OTHER TYPES OF CONCERNS THAT'S WHY STAFF STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE FACILITY, ITSELF, MITIGATION FEATURES THAT HAVE BEEN BAKED IN SINCE VERY BEGINNING.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY WERE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER WITH HONESTY AND INTEGRITY, YES, WE HAVE CONSIDERED THESE DEEP CONCERNS JUST AS MUCH AS WE'RE CONSIDERING THE OTHERS. SO I'M HEARTENED BY THAT BUT MORE, THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS D NOISE CONCERNS. I SHARE SOME OF WHAT THE MAYOR SAID ABOUT THE REALITY VERSUS PERCEPTION, BU I GUESS WHAT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE FOLKS UNDERSTAND IS THAT THERE'S NO EXCEPTION IN OUR NOISE ORDINANCE FOR THIS FACILITY. IT DEFIES LOGIC AND A REASON AND COMMON SENSE TO THINK THAT GOTRIANGLE WOULD IN THEIR HEARTS BELIEVE THIS FAILIY WOULD GENERATE THE KINDS OF SOUNDS YOU ARE ALL ARE AFRAID AND STILL BUILD THE THINGS. I KNOW, THEY DON'T GET BADE MORE WHETHER THIS THING GETS BUILT OR NOT, THERE'S A PROFIT MOTIVE.
THEY BHOOEF IT'S IMPORTANT PROJECT, I BELIEVE IT IS, BUT WHY WOULD THEY BUILD A FACILITY THAT GENERATE THIS IS KIND OF NOISE WHEN YOU CAN STOP IT WITH A PHONE CALL IF THAT HAPPENS. YOU CAN STOP IT WITH THE PHONE CALL. >> ORDER, PLEASE. >> THE NOISE ORDINANCE EXISTS FOR THIS VERY REASON. HERE TO PROTECT ALL O RUS FROM THE KIND OF NOSES THAT YOU TELL ME YOU'RE AFRAID OF. IF I UH READ THAT REPORT AND SAW THAT NUMBER, 136 DECIBELS I WOULDLESS BE TERRIFIED, I WOULD BE JUST AS TERRIFIED AS YOU WERE WHEN YOU FIRST READ IT. I WAS A PARENT AT CREEKSIDE, RESIDENT OF CULP ARBOR, OH MY GOSH, I'M NEVER GOING BE ABLE TO SLEEP AGAIN, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. IT JUST DOEN'T. I KNOW YOU'RE AFRAID, I KNOW YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, BUT UNDER WHAT POSSIBLE SCENARIO WOULD THEY OPERATE A FACILITY AT THAT VOLUME? IT DIDN'T POSSIBLY UH HAPPEN AND IF WE GO THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND THEY BUILD THE THING, THE FIRST NIGHT TRAINS COME THROUGH, WHAT ARE YOU GOING DO? YOU'RE GOING TO CALL THE POLICE AND SAY THIS THING IS MAKING THIS NOISE, PLEASE BRING SOUND METER DOWN, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO IF YOU LIVE WRD YOU LIVED.
IF THE PERSON WHO IS CLOSEST TO THIS FACILITY RIGHT NOW — SHE LEFT, I'M SORRY, LET'S SAY YOU LIVED TLSHG RUTH, THAT NIGHT YOU HEAR THAT SOUND, CALL 911, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, THEY'RE GOING BRING THE SOUND METER, AND IF IT VIOLENT THE NOISE ORDNANCE, THEY HAVE TO STOP IT. >> [LOW AUDIO]. >> THAT'S THE WAY THIS WORS. >> AUD. >> EXCUSE ME, XHUZ ME. >> THEY HAVE TO STOP IT. >> EXCUSE ME, CHARLES, EXCUSE ME. I'M GOING ASK MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE LISTEN TO COUNCIL MEMBER REECE — WE'VE STARTED ABOUT FOUR HOURS AGO IN THIS HEARING, EVERYBODY'S HAD THEIR CHANCE, THIS IS NOW COUNCIL MEMBER'S CHANCE AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE ARE RESPECT THAT WHETHER OR NOT YO AGREE, OKAY, WE'RE ALL GOT TO RESPECT EACH OTHER AND LISTEN, ALL RIGHT.
COUNCIL MEMBER REECE, PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO THINK THAT THE LAW WOULD FORCE Y'ALL FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS OF YOUR LIVES THIS FACILITY EXISTS TO CALL THE POLICE EVERY TIME THIS HAPPENS. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, IT DOESN'T. YOU CAN SHAKE YOUR HEAD ALL YOU WANT AT ME, RUTH, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS. IF THAT SOUND IS ACTUALLY CREATED WHICH I E HAVE NO REASON IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US BY NOW — NONE OF YOU BY THE WAY HAS TOLD ME THAT A TRAIN MAKING THESE TURNS IS GOING TO MAKE THAT SOUND LEVEL WHERE YOU LIVE OR THAT IT'S GOING TO BOTHER YOU AT ALL.
YOU HAVEN'T SHOWN E ME THAT. YOUR ARGUMENT IS GOTRIANGLE HASN'T SHOWN US THAT IT WON'T, RIGHT, THAT'S YOUR ARGUMENT, NOT THAT IT WILL 100% MAKE THIS NOISE IT'S THAT GO TRY AGE A L HASN'T PROVEN THAT IT WON'T; THAT'S THE ARGUMENT YOU'RE MAKING. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WE'VE HAD FOLKS TALKTOUS ABOUT WHAT THE SOUND WILL ACTUALLY E BE COMPARED WITH OTHER TYPES O SOUND BOTH CREATED AT CREEKSIDE, WHATEVER OTHER THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT. THE FACT THAT THAT NUMBER, THAT 136 DECIBEL NUMBER APPEARED IN THE REPORT IS SCARY, BUT THERE'S NO RATIONAL REASON WHY GOTRIANGLE WOULD BUILD A FACILITY 248D GYP RATE THAT MUCH SOUND. I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BUILD IT THERE. I'M SAYING IF IT WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH NOISE, THEY WOULDN'T, OKAY. THAT'S JUST NOT ACCURATE. I NE THAT'S HARD TO ACCEPT, I HEAR THAT, BUT THERE'S NO WAY THAT MAKES ANY SENSE, AND SO MY HOPE IS THAT YOU TAKE AWAY I FROM THIS MEETING MY ASSURANCE TO YOU THAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS HERE TO PROTECT AGAINST THE VERY HARM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE EXACT ONE, AND IF I'M WRONG — WHICH GOD KNOWS I'VE BEEN IN THE PAST I'LL BE AGAIN — IF THEY BUILD A FACILITY THAT GENERATES 136 D DESZABLES OF NOISE A AT 3 IN THE MORNING IT WOULDN'T CONTINUE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I KNOW YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT BUT THERE'S NO WAY THAT WOULD HAPPEN. I HOPE THAT WHAT YOU TAKE FROM THIS IS NOT THEY'RE JUST GOING TO RAM IT THROUGH AND MAKE THIS NOISE AND A WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT BUT INSTEAD TAKE AWAY THAT REPORT DESCRIBED A SITUATION WHICH SUBSEQUENT EXPLANATIONS HAVE GIVEN A REAL DESCRIPTION OF AND THAT THERE WON'T B 136 DESZABLES OF NOISE CREATED YOU'LL CALL THE POLICE, WE'LL STOP THE NOISE FROM HAPPENING AND WE'LL MAKE IT RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN. I COME FROM A DIFFERENT STANDPOINT IN RECOGNIZING THAT IF THIS WERE ANY DEVELOPER COMING INTO DURHAM TO MAKE THIS REQUEST, THIS WOULD BE A NO VOTE ACROSS THE BOARD, THAT IS VERY CLEAR. I'M HARD PRESSED BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT A VERY — LET ME BACK UP BY SAYING WHAT STRUCK ME IN THE COMMENTS MOST WAS THE COMMENTS AROUND THE CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS AROUND TRAINS AND I HAVE TO SAY AS A CHILD GREW UP IN BRONX IN NEW YORK UNDERNEATH A TRAIN STATION, I'M JUST HARD PRESSED BY THAT, THAT, I CANNOT ACCEPT, THAT'S JUST, IT'S JUST CRAZY.
PEOPLE HAVE SPOKE UP AND PUSHING CASE AN PUSHING FOR GOTRIANGLE TO ENGAGE RESIDENCE. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT'S YOUR BLOCK SO TO SPEAK THAT YOU CARRY THE BURDEN FOR ALL OF DURHAM. I AM, LIKE, IF THIS RAIL YARD WOULD HAVE BEEN IN EAST DURHAM NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. NONE OF THE OUTPOURING OF PEOPLE. ALL OF THIS I UH RECOGNIZE IS BECAUSE OF YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE AND YOUR ABILITY TO ORGANIZE IN A WAY THAT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR DO NT AND CANNOT. I WANT YOU TO SIT WITH THAT FOR A MOMENT AND RECOGNIZE THAT IS YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE THAT HAS US AT 11:27, WHICH IF IF IT WERE A DEVELOPER ASKING FOR TWO STORY BUILDING WOULD NOT BE AN OPTION.
ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THIS CONVERSATION, I HAVE BEEN ALSO A VERY HUGE PROPONENT OF LITE RAIL. I AM SORELY CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS AND I'VE SAID IT A NUMBER OF TIME UHS THAT WE CONTINUE TO CHOP AWAY UH DIFFERENT PARTS AN PIECES OF THIS PROJECT AND IT TO THE POINT WHERE THE PEOPLE N- WHO ARE PROPONENTS OF LITE RAIL ARE STANDING IN OP SIGS THAT — OPPOSITION THAT INCLUDES YOU GUY UHS WHO SUPPORT LITE RAIL BUT THIS ROMF FACILITY DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THE RIGHT PLACE. I UH GET IT. THE FOLKS WHO TALKED ABOUT DOWNTOWN AROUND BLACK WELL, THE FOLKS WHOVSH UPSET ABOUT DIFFERENT STATION AREAS. MY MAIN CONCERN IN THE PROCESS IS MAKING SURE IT'S DONE IN A WAY UH THAT DOES NOT CREATE MORE HARM THAN GOOD AND RECOGNIZING WE HAVE PROCESS WHERE URBAN RENEWAL HAS DESTROYED NEIGHBORHOODS — THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING, THIS IS NOT.
LET'S NOT BE CONFUSED OR WRAP IT UP INTO SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT COMES OUT OF THIS PROCESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WHICH IS THE REASON WHY UH IF YOU'RE HERE FOR COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT CONVERSATION YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT HOW UPSET I'VE BEEN WITH GOTRIANGLE AND THEIR PRESENTATION AND LACK OF INFORMATION AND COMPLETE JUST MYTHS IN THIS CONVERSATION AROUND DURHAM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE IN DURHAM, NORTH CAROLINA, AND THE CITY OF DURHAM IS PRETTY PROGRESSIVE AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THERE'S SO MUCH MISCOMMUNICATIONS AND I MEAN THE EVEN THE REPORT JUST THE REPORT SENT TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SOUNDS CRAZY TO ME BUT WE'LL LEAVE THAT HERE. RECOGNIZING THAT THERE IS VERY — YOU GUYS ARE OUTMATCHED WITH DURHAM CAN AND THE PEOPLE'S ALLIANCE AND I MEAN COALITION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AN TRANSIT, THESE FOLKS HAVE ALL BEEN ORGANIZING FOR THE 20 YEARS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT LITE RAIL SO YOU NEW RESIDENCE WHO HAVE MOVED INTO CULP ARBOR IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, YOU'RE KIND OF AT THE END OF THIS CONVERSATION AND HATE IT FOR YOU.
I RECOGNIZED I — I LIVE NEXT TO A RAIL LINE, SO I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. NOW, I LIVE IN GOLDEN BELT, AND ALL OF THE DEBATES, ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO MAKING SURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SAFE, THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED, IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE YOU RECOGNIZE EVEN IF YOU LOSE THIS STAND TONIGHT, THIS CONVERSATION'S NOT OVER. IT IS GOING TO CONTINUE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THAT I WOULD BE THE STRONGEST SUPPORTER OF MAKING SURE THAT — AS HOW MANY REECE MENTIONED — WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING OF US IS NOT, UM, IMPOSSIBLE, BUT WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING OF YOU TO CARRY THIS LOAD IS GOING TO BE — I MEAN IT'S WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT I ASK YOU TO DO THAT BECAUSE I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE NEXT 30 YEARS IN DURHAM AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON HOW TO MAKE THIS LITE RAIL COME TO LIFE AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT, IT'S NOT THE BEST SITUATION TO BE IN, BUT I KNOW THAT WE ARE HERE AND WE'RE LISTENING AND GO T TRIANGLE HAS DONE MUCH BETTER JOHN AND I APPRECIATE THEY BROUGHT IN JOHN COLLEGE TO BE PROJECT MANAGER BECAUSE I KNOW HE IS VERIED AY ADIMATE YOU'VE GIVEN ME A WHOLE NEW LIST OF ISSUES TO ASK WITH EVERY ZONING ISSUE THAT COMES HERE.
SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER ALSTON. >> THANK YOU. THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR PARPG IN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. I WILL TRIM MY COMMENTS. THIS PROJECT IF APPROVED WILL BRING CHANGE TO AN AREA THAT HAS EXPERIENCED CHANGEOVER LAST FEW YEARS. CHANGE PROPOSED TONIGHT SHOULD BE CHALLENGED IN EXACTLY UH TH WAY THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE TONIGHT. MANY OF YOUR CONCERNS — ECHO CONCERNS OUTLINED BY THE MAYOR — MANY OF THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT. THEY'RE WORTHY OF TIMELY UH ANSWERS FROM OUR STAFF AND FROM GO TRIANGLE AND WORTHY OF OUR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOUR COMMUNITY AND WE TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY. HOWEVER, WHILE I DO THINK THOSE CONCERNS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, THEY DO NOT PERSUADE ME TO VOTE AGAINST THIS REZONING. AS MENTIONED OUR DECISIONS INCLUDING THOSE ABOUT LAND USE REFLECT BEST INTEREST OF EVERYONE IN DURHAM.
REZONING SERVES THOSE INTERESTS, BELIEVE IT TO BE APPROPRIATE AND CRITICAL TO FUTURE TRANSPORTATION INNOVATION. LITE STAND TOGS MOVE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THROUGH OUR REGION EVERY DAY AND IN DOING SO HELPS TO MANAGE GROWTH, SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FREE US FROM DAILY ESCALATION THAT OUR CARS ENCOURAGE, IMPROVE ACCESS TO JOBS, LEVEL PLAYING FIELD WHEN COMING TO TRANSPORTATION UH OPTION. APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THIS FACILITY. STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND INTEND TO VOTE IN FAVOR. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> ALSO IN INTEREST OF TIME I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH MY THOUGHTS. COLLEAGUES HAVE DONE GOOD JOB WITH THAT. WANT TO TLK ABOUT IMPACT OF GROWTH IN THIS CITY AND I I FEEL LIKE THE ISSUE HAS BEEN FRAMED AS IF Y'ALL ARE — I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE'RE ALL HAVING TO DEAL WITH IMPACTS OF GROWTH BOTH POSITIVE NEGATIVE.
I LIVE A QUARTER MILE FROM THE HIGHWAY, LESS THAN A MILE FRM DOWNTOWN, EXPERIENCE CONSEQUENCES OF GROWTH EVERY SINGLE DAY. SOME NIGHTS THE FIREWORKS FROM THE DPAC FROM THE BALL PARK MAKE IT HARD FOR ME TO PUT MY KIDS TO SLEEP. THERE'S CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON DAILY BASIS. WE ALL LIVE IN A GROWING CITY, ALL FACE IMPACTS FROM THAT GROWTH AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE GREAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN COME INTO DOWNTOWN AND SEE A BROADWAY SHOW OR GO TO AN AMAZING RESTAURANT. THERE ARE ALSO NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THAT GROWTH. HUGE UH HOUSING CRISIS, HIGHEST LEVEL OF EVICTIONS IN THE STATE, AND THIS LITE RAIL IS A WAY FOR US TO GROW SUSTAINIBLY I INTO THE FUTURE. ONE OF THE KEY PIECES OF TRANSPORTATION VISION THT SINT ISN'T FOR ANY OF US UP HERE.
IT'S FOR OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS SO THEY DON'T HAVE SIT IN THE KIND OF TRAFFIC WE HAVE TO SIT IN. THAT'S GOING TO KILL YOUR PROPERTY VALUES. THESE ARE THE TINGS I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE REGION AND GROWTH WE'RE IN. ONE OF THE FAST AEST GROWS CITIES PER CAPITA IN THE COUNTRY. I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR, IT'S NOT JUST Y'ALL. WE ARE ALL DEALING WITH IMPACTS OF THIS GROWING REE JOHN EVERY DAY AND ALL DOING THE BEST WE CAN DO TO MANAGE THOSE AND IMPACTS OF GROWTH HERE ON THE COUNCIL AND IN OUR COMMUNITIES AT LARGE.
THIS PROJECT IS CRITICAL FOR THAT GROWTH TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A COMMUNITY UH THAT CAN STILL SUSTAIN ITSELF, THAT CAN BE LIVABLE FOR OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS. A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO LIVE AND ACTUALLY WANT TO MOVE HERE. AND SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BRINGING YOUR CONCERNS. I UH FEEL LIKE THE INFORMATION THAT I'VE GOTTEN TONIGHT AND THE CONCERNS I'VE GOTTEN FROM ALL OF Y'ALL, I'M OF THE OPINION THAT THIS LITE RAIL PROJECT IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT W NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS REZONING BUT IN IS THE BEST LOCATION EVEN WITH ITS PROBLEMS THAT ANY OTHER PLACE WOULD BE FAR WORSE AND ACTUALLY WEREN'T EVEN VIABLE. THERE'S NO OTHER LOCATION WHERE WE COULD PUT THIS FACILITY THAT IS NEEDED AND THAT THE CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE, CHEMICALS; THSE ARE ALL — THIS CITY IS GROWING AND THESE AR ISSUES THAT ARER GOING TO OCCUR IN ALL PARTERS OF THE CITY.
IT'S NOT JUST FOLKS THAT LIVE DOWNTOWN AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH IMPACTS OF GROWTH, WE ALL DO. I'M CONFIDENT THAT IF THERE IS A NOISE PROBLEM AT CREEKSIDE ELEMENT, WHICH I SINCERELY BELIEVE AN 80 DECIBEL NOISE A MILE AWAY UH WILL NOT CAUSE A NOISE IMPACT BUT IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WE AS A COMMUNITY WILL FIX. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE SORT OF ISSUES I THINK THAT YOU ALL ARE CONCERNED AUH BOUTD, WE WILL NOT AS A COMMUNITY ACCEPT THOSE CONCERNS, BUT I UH ACCEPT THE REALIZATION OF THOSE ISSUES. BUT I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THAT BAD, Y'ALL, AND I THINK THE PROJECT IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. COUNCIL MEMBER CABALLERO P. >> JUST TO ECHO, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
SIT DEMOCRACY IN ACTION, THANKS FOR STAY SO LATE. ECHO WHAT COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID AND KEEP COMMENTS BRIEF. I UH WILL BE ON COUNCIL FOR A YEAR JUST IN JANUARY SO I'M THE NEWEST KID ON THE BLOCK AND THE THING THAT STICKS WITH ME AND THIS IS WHY THE PARENTS FROM KEEKSIDE — I HAVE THREE CHILDREN ALSO IN DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS – THOSE CONCERNS ARE NOT LOST ON ME BUT I ALSO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR EVERYONE'S KIDS, AND LITE RAIL AND GETTING CARS OFF OUR ROADS AND PLANNING SUSTAINIBLY, THAT IS FOR ME ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CONCERNS AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL VI TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE, WE HAVE TO BE VISIONARY AND TE LITE RAIL DOES THAT FOR US. I'LL BE VOTING FOR THE ZONING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON, DO WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL OF US SPEAK.
>> JUST BRIEFLY. I GREW UP ON TRAINS AND BUSES, ORIGINALLY FROM BROOK LYNN ONE OF THE THING THAT STRIKES ME WAS THERE WOULD BE A HOMELESS PERSON AND MILLIONAIRE STOCKBROKER ON THE SAME PLACE. I UH THINK NO TRULY GREAT CITY CAN CALL ITSELF GRAT WITHOUT HAVING RESIDENCE TO ACCESS ALL THINGS THAT MAKE CITY WONDERFUL WITHOUT A CAR. WE CAN'T BE GREAT METROPOLIS WITHOUT THAT TYPE OF A SYSTEM. DIRECTLY, THERE IS NO INEVIDENT BILLTY IN MY VOTE FOR THAT. BECAUSE OF SHUNKEN COST AND EER SHA AND SO MUCH TIME ALREADY PUT IN PROJECT THAT WE HAD NO CHOICE.
I DIDN'T FEEL OBLIGATED TO VOTE YES ON THS BECAUSE OF SUNKEN COST, NOT A COMPELLINGMENT ARGUMENT TO ME. CAME HERE PREPARED TO LISTEN TO ALL SIDES. I THNK THERE WERE POLAR POINT ARGUE AMENTS. ON THE ONE HAND I WAS WAITING TO HEAR A ABOUT THIS BROODING HELL SKATE WITH BOMB BELCHING FACTORY. NOT THIS. IT'S NOT THIS SHINING CITY WITH ABSOLUTELY I ZERO IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT EITHER. I'M GOING TO VOTE FO THIS AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS A POLITICALLY EXP EXPEDIENT VOTE. I'M VOTING FOR THIS OUT OF PRINCIPLE.
I UH THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR CITY. P A LEGACY VOTE. ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS WHERE HAVE TO MAKE DECISION BASED UPON PRINCIPLE. YOU GUYS GENERATED A PETITION OF ALMOST A THOUSAND PEOPLE. IN A REGULAR DURHAM ELECTION THAT'S A MARGIN OF VICTORY. THIS IS NOT A POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT VOTE, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW TO COUNT. YOU'RE NOT FIT TO HOLD OFFICE UNTIL YOU FIND A REASON THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO LOSE IT FOR.
THIS IS A PRINCIPLE VOTE, RIGHT FOR THE CITY, NOT AFRAID TO VOTE NO BUT AFTER SITTING THROUGH THIS HEARING TONIGHT, I'M MRE COMFORTABLE WITH APPROVING THIS REZONING. THIS AIN'T OVER. IF ITS NOISY, MORE WORK NEEDS TO BE — IF MORE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE — I HOPE TO BE AROUND TO THE RIDE THE TRAINS AND IN TAT DAY COMING AND WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKE THIS ROMF AND THIS ENTIRE LITE RAIL PROJECT AS BENEFICIAL AND WONDERFUL TO ALL OF US AS POSSIBLE.
THIS IS SA PRINCIPLE VOTE FOR ME, NOT POLITICAL VOTE. I'LL BE SUPPORTING REZONING. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS, NOW, IT'S TIME TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS ITEM. FIRST MOTION MOTION #1: TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE ANNEXING THE "RAIL OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE FACILITY" PROPERTY INTO THE CITY OF DURHAM EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 31, 2018, AND >> SO MOVED AND SECONDED. MARC, PLEASE OPEN VOTE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN VOTE.
PLEASE CLOSE THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU. ACCEPT MOTION TO MOTION #2: TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO INDUSTRIAL FOR THE SITE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN VOTE. CLOSE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU. MOTION #3: TO ADOPT A CONSISTENCY STATEMENT AS REQUIRED BY NCGS 160A-383. MOVED AND SECONDED. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN VOTE. PLEASE DLOEZ VOTE. CLOSE THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU. MOTION #4: TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ADOPT MOTION NUMBER FOUR. MADAM CLERK OPEN VOTE. PLEASE CLOSE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. P >> THANK YOU . [CAPTIONS WILL RETURN MOMENTARILY]. COMPARED TO CURRENT RS-20 ZONING OUR PLAN GRATLY REDUCES NEGATIVE IMPACT ON WATERSHED AND MAINTAIN FORESTS ENVIRONMENT. PROVIDING ORIGINAL SOLUTION FOR HOUSING NEEDS AND EXPANDING DURHAM HOUSING CHOESS IN ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY.
>> ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? IF NOT, ANY UH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR APPLICANT? COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS SF >> QUESTION ABOUT PRICE POINTS. >> AT THIS POINT, INITIAL ESTIMATES FROM CONTRACTORS AND EXPECTING PRICE POINTS TO BE BETWEEN 250 AND $40,000. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, DECLARE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AND MATTER BACK BEFORE COUNCIL? BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO ADOPT FIRST MOTION. MADAM CLERK, OPEN VOTE. CLOSE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> IS THERE A NOTION ADOPT CONSISTENCY STATEMENT? BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> IS TERE A MOTION TO ADOPT UDO. MOVED AND SECONDED. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN VOTE. PLEASE CLOSE THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 39. CONSOLIDATED ITEM FOR DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL C.
NOW HEAR FROM STAFF. KWIE PS JUDICIAL HEARING. I DON'T KNOW THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. >> BEEN IN SOME JUDICIAL HEARING. >> HAVE YOU BEEN IN ONE? >> IN APPEALS COURT. >> ALL RIGHT, SO I HAVE A SCRIPT. THIS WILL BE CON DUCKED — WITNESSES MUST BE SWORN IN AND WRITTEN EVIDENCE MUST BE FORMERLY OFFERED. CONSIDERED TO HELD UNDER AGENDA 39. MOST SMOEGS ADOPT AN ORDER FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SECOND TO ADOPT ORDER APPROVING MAJOR USE PERMIT. THIRD WILL BE VOTED ON AFTER FIRST TWO MOTIONS AUH CORDING TO USUAL WAY OF ARGUING ABOUT STUFF. WAS THAT THE SCRIPT? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> ATTORNEYS FOR APPLICANT AND FOR OPPONENTS AND REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH SIDE I THERE ARE NO ATTORNEYS TO COME TO MICROPHONE IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR COUNCIL AND TAKE A SEAT IN FONT ROE. ROW. >> DEBRA STAGGER ON BEHALF OF DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS, APPLICANT. >> THANK YOU.
IF AN ATTORNEY REPRESENTATIVE WISHES TO CROSS EXAMINE A WITNESS PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL WRITTEN INFORMATION INCLUDING MAPS SHOULD BE OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED AS EVIDENCE. COPIES OF EVIDENCE SUBMITTED WITH EXCEPTION OF STAFF REPORT AND ATTACHMENT WOULD BE GIVEN TO CITY ATTORNEY AND OTHER SIDE. . QUESTIONS CONCERNING — >> SWEARING. P >> E H WISHING TO THE TESTIFY SHOULD SIGN UP AT CLERKS STATION. HAS THAT HAPPENED? MADAM CLERK, IS THERE A SPECIAL SHEET THERE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD SIGN INTO THOSE CARDS, THANK YOU, ASHLEY. GLAD THEY DIDN'T SEND KEN SUE IN HERE. SIGNED UP? OKAY. >> ONE MORE. >> PEOPLE WHO WISH TO TESTIFY IF YOU'VE SIGNED UP SHOULD NOW GO TO CLSHG'S STATION AND BE SWORN IN. >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. YOU SWEAR — REPEAT AFTER ME — YOU SWEAR THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU SHALL GIVE TO THE DURHAM CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE THE TRUH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NOW COUNCIL MEMBERS WE HAVE A DIFFERENT SORT OF SET UP HERE THAN USUAL. GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER FOR ALL OF US. DO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO WITHDRAW BECAUSE CONFLICT IN DECIDING THIS CASE IN FAIR AND IMPARTIAL MANNER? ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HEARD INFORMATION AT THIS CASE OTHER THAN WORK SESSION? IF SO PLEASE DISCLOSE AT THIS TIME SO OPPOSING SIDES CAN ADDRESS IT IN THEIR STATEMENTS. WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM CITY STAFF. >> THANK UH YOU. DANNY CULL TER REPRESENTING PLANNING DEPARTMENT SITE. AT THIS TIME PLANNING STAFF WOULD REQUEST ALL AGENDA MATERIALS SUBMITTED TO BE MADE PART OF PUBLIC RECORD WTH ANY CORRECTIONS. >> DO WE NEED A MOTION? >> NO. >> THANK YOU.
>> REQUEST FOR TRANSPORTATION CASE 21600001 MAJOR USE PERMIT M 1800003 AND MAJOR SITE PLAN D 160000105 HAVE BEEN FOR 86,325 SQUARE FOOT ON 17.7 ACRE PORTION OF 46.3 ACRE SITE LOCATED AT 816, 830, 906, 920, 936 AND 928 SCOTT KING ROAD. ROSING RURAL RESIDENCE. EDUCATION FACILITY LOCATED IN RESIDENTIAL REQUIRES ISSUANCE OF MINOR USE PERMIT PURSUANT TO SECTION 5.1.2 AND SUBJECT TO LIMIT USE STANDARD OF UDO 5.3 K. UDO 3.9.1 E PERMITS SAME PROJECT TO BE CONSOLIDATE INTO SINGLE HEARING FOR APPROVAL WHEN TRANSPORTATION USE PERMIT IS ALSO REQUIRED. TRANSPORTATION USE PERMIT REQUESTED TONIGHT IS UNDER SEPARATE KWAU IS I JUDICIAL ACTION QUASI JUDICIAL ACTION. PERMIT BEING CONSIDERED AS MAJOR PERMIT INSTEAD OF MINOR USE PERMIT REQUEST AS TYPICAL FROM BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. ADDITIONALLY, WHEN SITE PLAN IS ASSOCIATED WITH REQUIRED MAJOR USE PERMIT OR TRANSPORTATION USE PERMIT, SITE PLAN SHALL BE CONSIDERED MAJOR SIE PLAN WHICH REQUIRES GOVERNING BODY APPROVAL.
IF COUNCIL APPROVES, COUNCIL SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE APPROVAL — — — THE SITE PLAN IS NOT REQUIRED AS PART OF PUBLIC HEARING BUT DOES REQUIRE SEPARATE VOTE FOR APPROVAL. IF COUNCIL DENIES MAJOR USE PERMIT ASSOCIATED SITE PLAN SHOULD NO BE APPROVED AS IT WOULD NOT BE IN APPLIANCE. HAVING SUMMARIZED THESE, FIRST ITEM REQUIRING ACTION TONIGHT IS TRANSPORTATION SPECIAL USE PERMIT CASE T 160001. REQUEST APPROVAL OF TRANSPORTATION USE PERMIT FOR TRAFFIC IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH 716 STUDENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH 84 STAFF MEMBERS AND 102 PARKING SPACES PROPOSED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SCOTT KING ROAD BETWEEN GOLDFLOWER DRIVE AND LYON TREE LANE. GENERATE AT LEAST 600 VEHICLE TRIPS IN SINGLE PEAK HOUR. FOUR CRITERIA SATISFIED IN ORDER TO GRANT USE PERMIT. IDENTIFIED IN STAFF REPORT LABELED AS ATTACHMENT THREE AND APPLICANT'S RESPONSES AND ASSOCIATE RESPONSES 3 A ALONG WITH IMPROVEMENTS OUTLINED IN STAFF REPORT AND MEMOS LABELED ATTACHES, 3 B AND 3 C.
OTHER DOCUMENT ATTACHMENTS RELATES ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN OVERALL HEARING PACKAGE. SECOND ITEM THAT WILL REQUIRE ACTION IS MAJOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT M 180003. APPLICANT PROPOSING EDUCATIONAL FACILITY WITHIN RESIDENTIAL ZONING HOWEVER TRANSPORTATION USE PERMIT ALSO REQUIRED APPLICANT CONSIDERING SINGLE HEARING SO NOW CONSIDERED AS MAJOR USE PERMIT BY THIS GOVERNING BODY. UDO 3 POINT # .8 FINDINGS AND FACTORS WHICH MUST BE ADDRESSED IN ORDER TO — FINDINGS IDENTIFIED IN STAFF REPORT LABELED AS ATTACHMENT FOUR AND APPLICANTS RESPONSES LABELED AS A ATTACHMENT 4 A. OTHER DOCUMENTS INCLUDED IN OVERALL HEARING PACKAGE. PLANNING STAFF WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATION FOR EACH PERMIT AFTER TESTIMONY IS HEARD. BILL JUDGE FOR CITY TRANSPORTATION IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION USE PERMIT AND PLANNING STAFF IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON ALL ITEMS. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF WE'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THEIR PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE CITY STAFF FROM THE COUNCIL OR THE OTHER PARTY AT THIS POINT? I HAVE A QUESTION.
>> YES, SIR. >> HOW FAR IS THIS FROM THE AMERICAN TOBACCO TRAIL? >> HU, I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THAT QUESTION, ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. >> BILL JUDGE. >> I THINK BILL MIGHT BE TRYING — >> BILL JUDGE, TRANSPORTATION. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DISTANCE BUT I WOULD WANT TO SAY PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A THOUSAND FEET TO THE WEST. >> SIDEWALKS GO THAT FAR? >> THEY WILL NOT.
SIDEWALKS ONLY GO FOR THE FRONTAGE OF THE SCHOOL AND THEN THERE IS A DUKE ENERGY PARCEL BETWEEN SCHOOL AND AMERICAN TOBACCO TRAIL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT — LET'S SEE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL NOW HERE FROM APPLICANT. >> AGAIN, DEBRA STAGGER HEE FROM DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I HAVE WITH ME ZAK PIERCE, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WHO SUBMITTED SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW FOR THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON SCOTT KIG ROAD. ALSO WITH ME IS TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER WITH RAMEY KEMP AND ASSOCIATES, DAVID SMITH, AND CHAD BULK. WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT PLAN FOR NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN SOUTHERN DURHAM AND SEEK CITY E UH COUNCIL'S APPROVAL. AS INDICATED IN THE AGENDA WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO ADOPTER PROVG TRANSPORTATION SPECIAL USE, AND MAJOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT. I UH UNDERSTAND THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE COUNCIL AGENDA HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADMIT IN PART OF THE RECORD. I HAVE SEVEN ADDITIONAL EXHIBITS IF I MAY APPROACH, MR.
BAKER? I WOULD LIKE THE INTRODUCE RESUMES OF MR. PIERCE, MR. LOWING AND MR. STEVEN SOB ALL OF WHOM WILL TENDER AS EXPERTS IN RESPECTIVE FIELDS. ALSO ASK COUNCIL ACCEPT RESUME AS EVIDENCE INCLUDE THEM IN THE REPORT. MR. SMITH'S REPORT WHICH INCLUDES RESUME AND HE'LL BE TENDERED A AN EXPERT SO HIS REPORT BE ADMITTED AS WELL. TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ADDENDUM AND TWO EXHIBITS ALL OF WHICH WE WOULD HAVE ADMITTED AS EVIDENCE AND INCLUDED IN THE RECORD. >> ANY ACTIONS? >> DUNN APPEAR ANY OPPOSITIONS TO THIS BUT IF THERE IS AN OBJECTION FROM ANYONE TO THE ADMISSION OF THIS EVIDENCE, UM, I HAVE TAKEN A BRIEF LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS AS THE ATTORNEY HAS STATED AND WOULD ADMIT THESE INTO EVIDENCE. >> I'LL CALL THESE ADMITTED INTO EVIDENCE THEN, THANK YOU. >> I UNDERSTAND, I DID BRING THEM ELECTRONICALLY AND I UNDERSTAND THEY'VE BEEN LOADED BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT YOU CAN ACCESS THEM, BUT THEY ARE AVAILABLE ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL. FIRST I WOULD CALL OUR FIRST WITNESS IF I MAY, MR. ZAK PIERCE. >> GOOD EVENING. ZAK PIERCE, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WITH CLH DESIGN.
>> MR. PIERCE, CAN YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE YOUR EDUCATION CREDENTIALS AND EXPERIENCE? >> I HAD TO ATTEND AN ACCREDITED UNIVERSITY AT PENN STATE FOR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, FIVE-YEAR DEGREE AND HAVE BEEN WITH CLH DESIGN FOR OVER 11 YEARS. RECEIVED LICENSE THROUGH STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA AND HAVE BEEN LICENSED FOR OVER FIVE YEARS. P >> TENDER MR. PIERCE AS EXPERT IN THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE. >> WITHOUT OBJECTION. >> MR. PIERCE K YOU PLEASE GIVE OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED SCHOOL DESIGN AND PLAN AND EXPLAIN HOW THIS FITS IN HARMONY WITH THE AREA? >> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAVE SITE PLAN, SEN A COPY OF IT? WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT PRESENTING THIS PLAN, FEEL IT'S GREAT USE AND FIT IN WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND SURROUNDING AREAS, THIS IS A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THE SITE WE ARE DEVELOPING IS A SMALL PORTION OF IT.
WE ARE PROTECTING SOME OF THE NATURAL BUFFERS OF THIS. WE'RE ENCOURAGED TRYING TO FIT WITHIN THE CONTEXT. >> MR PIERCE CAN YOU CONFIRM THE PROJECT IS IN CONFORM WITH ALL SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS? >> YES. >> WE CONFIRM TH PROJECT WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HOUSE AND SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC. >> CORRECT. WE ARE ALSO DESIGN THE VEHICULAR CIRCULATION AND PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION WITH SAFETY IN MIND WITH PET PEDESTRIANS COMING IN AND WHERE THEY WOULD CROSS SLEEK LAR TRAFFIC WE HAVE CROSSWALKS AND CONSCIOUS WHERE THE PLAY AREAS ARE AROUND THE SCHOOLS AND DON'T INTERACT WITH VEHICULAR AREAS. >> WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE 13 REVIEW FACTORS.
CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM THE PROJECT ADEQUATELY ADDRESSES CITY'S REVIEW FACTORS STARTING WITH CICULATION. >> WE HAD TO HAVE SITE PLAN REVIEWED BY DIVISION OF NCDOT THAT REVIEWS SCHOOL SITES AND CIRCULATION. CALCULATOR DETERMINED ON-SITE STACKING BASED ON ENROLLMENT OF THE SCHOOL AND TO ENUH SURE STACKING DOES NOT OCCUR ON TO SCOTT KING ROAD. WE'VE PROVIDED ADEQUATE FOR THEM TO TAKE TO DROP OFF THEIR CHILDREN. >> DOES THE SITE PROVIDE SUFFICIENT OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING AREAS? >> YES. PARKING DOES MEET SCHOOL SYSTEM'S NEEDS AND REQUIREMENTSES OF THE UDO. >> DOES PROVIDE ADEQUATE SERVICE ENTRANCE AND AREAS? >> IT DOES,ER IS VASE VISIT ENTRANCE SHARED WITH BUSES AND LOADING DOCK DOES NOT FACE SCOTT KING ROAD. >> DOES MEET LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS? >> YES. SCHOOL SYSTEM WILL LEASE LIGHTS FROM DUKE ENERGY AND THEY PROVIDED SITE LIGHTING PLAN THAT CONFORMS TO UDO.
>> DESCRIBE UH HOW SIGNAGE FOR THE SITE IS PROCURED? >> MONUMENT SIGN DESIGNATING MAIN ENTRANCE AND ON-SITE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE. >> DOES SIGN HAVE UTILITIES AVAILABLE? KENNETH LOIN, CIVIL ENGINEER, GRADUATED FROM UNC GREENSBORO, LICENSED LAND SURVEYOR. LICENSED SINCE 1998. QUESTION REQUIRING UTILITIES, YES, THEY'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO BOTH PUBLIC WATER AND PUBLIC SEWER. >> HIKE TO TENDER MR. LORING AS EXPERT IN AREA OF CIVIL ENGINEERING.
>> ACCEPTED WITHOUT OBJECTION. >> DOES THE SITE A ADEQUATELY UH PROTECT WETLANDS AND TREE COVER? >> YES, ON-SITE DESIGN DOES AVOID HEAVY ABOUT OF STREAM BUFFERS AND WETLANDS ON EITHER SIDE AS WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE DEVELOPABLE AREAS CENTERED TO THE SITE. >> DOES THE SITE MEET CITY'S SCREENING BUFFERING AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS? >> YES. WE'RE PROVIDING REQUIRED SCREENING ALONG AND STREET TREE AND AROUND THE LANDSCAPING IN THE PARKING AND AROUND THE SCHOOL ALONG WITH RESERVING THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, WE EXCEED THAT BY ONLY DEVELOPING SMALL PORTION OF THE SITE. >> ISSUE ADDRESSED BY MR. SMITH, BUT CAN YOU DWLIEB THE PROJECT HAS ANY ADVERSE IMPACT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES? >> WE FEEL IT DOES NOT. COMPLIMENTS THE USE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS SHOULD SERVE THE STUDENTS OF THIS PART OF DURHAM. >> IS THE SITE COMPATIBLE WITH NEARBY PROPERTIES AND IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS? >> YES, IT DOES. WE FEEL THE SCHOOL WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH OF DURHAM COUNTY RESIDENCE DEN IN THIS AREA.
>> CONSISTENT WITH CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT TIER GUIDELINES, ZONING DISTRICT STATEMENTS. >> WE FEEL IT DOES ABIDE BY THAT RURAL CHARACTER BY HAVING THAT ABILITY TO PROTECT WOODED AREAS AND THE STREAM BUFFER AND FIT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF RURAL CHARACTER OF SOUTH PART OF DURHAM. >> YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION DOES SITE DESIGN MEET UDO? >> YES. >> QUESTIONS FOR MR. PIERCE? >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. PIERCE? WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. >> MR. LORING IF I COULD, JUST LIKE TO ASK, COULD YO PLEASE CONFIRM THE LOCATION OF UTILITIES AND ANY OPINION YOU HAVE ABOUT WHETHER THIS MEETS UDO. >> PUBLIC WATER LINES ARE IN SCOTT KING AND THE SEWER AS WELL.
WE'RE GOING TO BE CONNECTING THE SEWER UP ON SCOTT KING AS WELL. >> AND DOES THIS MEET SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS FOR THE UDO? >> YES, IT DOES. >> THANK YOU. NEXT, MR. SMITH, DAVID SMITH. CAN YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE YOUR EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE? >> DAVID SMITH, 3 MORSE TOWN CIRCLE HERE IN DURHAM, STATE-CERTIFIED GENERAL REAL ESTATE APPRAISER, HOLD MAI DESIGNATION OF APPRAISAL INSTITUTE AND BEEN APPRAISING PROPERTIES THE DURHAM FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS. >> TENDER MR. SMITH AS EXPERT IN THE AREA OF PROPERTY EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL. >> ACCEPTED WITH WITHOUT OBJECTION. >> BRIEFLY EXPLAIN YOUR ANALYSIS OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. >> IMPACT ANALYSIS OF THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPOSED SCHOOL IS A SUBDIVISION, LION PARK. SO I FOUND ANOTHER SUBDIVISION ACROSS FROM AN EXISTING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SPRING VALLEY, AND I RESEARCHED THE SELLING PRICES OF PROPERTIES IN THAT DIVISION AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE RIGHT WITHIN THE PARK AND FOND THERE WAS NO ADVERSE IMPACT FOR BEING ACROSS THE STREET FROM A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
>> HIS REPORT BEEN INTRODUCED INTO ED. CONFIRM THAT THE PROPOSED SCHOOL WILL NOT JURZ PROPERTY VALUES IN THE VICINITY? >> YES. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> AND FINALLY WE HAVE MR. STEVENSON. CAN YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE YOUR EDUCATION CREDENTIALS AND EXPERIENCE. >> RAMEY KEMP AND ASSOCIATES 5808 BEARINGTON PLACE IN RALEIGH. REGISTERED PROFESSION NAP ENGINEER STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, GRADUATED FROM NORTH CAROLINA STATE WITH DEGREE IN CIVIL ENGINEERING AND BEEN PRACTICING TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND CIVIL ENGINEERING TRANSPORTATION SINCE 2001. >> WE'D LIKE TO TENDER MR. STEVENGSON AS EXPERT IN AREA OF CIVIL ENGINEERING, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING. >> ACCEPTED WITHOUT OBJECTION. >> PLEASE .GIF OVERVIEW OF THE ANALYSIS AND TRAN PLANNING FOR TRAFFIC IMPACT DONE FOR THIS SITE. >> AS WAS MENTIONED EARL EARLIER, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS PERFORMED FOR THE SCHOOL TO DETERMINE THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
STUDY DONE IN COORDINATION WITH CITY STAFF AND NCDOT. THERE WAS AN ADDENDUM COMPLETED THAT I THINK IS PART OF THE RECORD THAT IS THE MOST UP TO DATE TRAFFIC STUDY. THAT WAS DONE IN MAY 2016. TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IN MARCH 2017, THAT ADDRESSES THE ON-SITE CIRCULATION FOR THE SCHOOL. >> CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE THE PROJECT WILL NOT SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT ON SURROUNDING AREA? >> YES. >> WILL THE PROJECT INCREASE TRAFFIC ON LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS. >> SCHOOL WILL ADD A SOME TRAFFIC TO THE SURROUNDING ROADS AND PARTICULARLY SCOTT KING ROAD, BUT OVERALL OVER ENTIRE DAY SCHOOL TRAFFIC IS RELATIVELY MINIMAL.
MOST TRAFFIC HAPPENS AT A SCHOOL 3W07B MINUTES, 45 MINUTES IN THE MORNING AND THEN 30-45 MINUTES IN AFTERNOON DURING PICK-UP TIME. >> WILL THE PROJECT REQUIRE WIDENING OF LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS? >> ROAD IMPROVEMENTS DONE AS PART OF THE PROJECT. TURN LANES DONE AT SCOTT KING ROAD AT THE SITE ENTRANCES AND EXIT. >> CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM THAT THE PROJECT ADEQUATELY UH PROVIDES SAFE AND EFFICIENT VEHICULAR CIRULATION, PARKING, LOADING AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. >> SURE. ONE THING THE SCHOOL DOES THIS DESIGN DOES IS HAS SEPARATE ENTRANCE FOR PARENTS TO COME IN AND THAT IS AN ENTRANCE ONLY. PARENTS COME IN AND CIRCULATE THROUGH ONE DRIVEWAY. STACK ON-SITE. THERE'S A SEPARATE ACCESS FOR BUSES AND VISITORS TO USE.
THE STACKING ON THE SITE IS OVER TWO THOUSAND FEET AND THAT EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR STACKING THAT IS CREATED/REQUIRED BASED ON NCDOT'S MSTA STACKING DATA THAT THEY HAVE FOR SCHOOLS. STACKING ON-SITE DOES CIRCULATE THROUGH PARKING AREA FOR STAFF, BUT STAFF IS DOES HAVE ANOTHER WAY OUT SO THAT THEY CAN GET OUT AND NOT — THERE'S ANOTHER WAY INTO THAT STAFF PARKING LOT SO PARENTS STACKING THROUGH THERE DOES NOT PREVENT THE STAFF FROM BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THE PARKING LOT. PEDESTRIANS SIDEWALK PROVIDED ALONG FRONTAGE OF SCOTT KING ROAD AND THEN THERE ARE PEDESTRIAN PATHS THROUGH SITE FOR PEDESTRIANS TO NAVIGATE. >> PARKING SPACES? >> THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE PROVIDED DOES MEET THE CITY'S CODE. >> CAN YOU REVIEW BRIEF THINK COMMENTS BY THE TMP? >> THE TM SPSHGS PROVIDED TO REALLY DOCUMENT TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT THE SCHOOL WILL USE TO OPERATE FOR PARENTS AND FOR THE BUSES AND FOR STAFF AND THAT DOCUMENT IS DONE TO ILLUSTRATE THAT, TRAFFIC PATTERNS, THAT WAS DONE TO SHOW AND DOCUMENT THE PATTERNS I DESCRIBED EARLIER WHERE THE PARENTS COMING IN ONE ACCESS THAT SHOWS STACKING AREA WHERE THEY UH HAVE TO STACK AND UH HOW THEY DROP OFF, THE DRO DROP-OFF ZONE AND HOW THEY UH EXIT AND SHOW WHERE BUSES COME IN AND ACCESS AND ALSO VISITORS AND STAFF.
>> CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM THAT THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE THE PROJECT WILL NOT HAVE SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT? >> YES. AS MENTIONED EARL YESHG THERE'LL BE TURN LANES PROVIDED OUT ON SCOTT KING ROAD AT THE DRIVEWAYS TO MINIMIZE ANY SORT OF IDLING OF VEHICLES OUT ALONG SCOTT KING ROAD. OTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS THE KIDS T SCHOOL'S GOING TO SEVE KIDS IN SURROUNDING COMMUNITY UH, AND THOSE KIDS ARE CURRENTLY GOING TO A SCHOOL OTHER SCHOOLS AND SO THIS MAY ACTUALLIEN THE TRIP CAR TRIPS FOR SOME OF THESE STUDENTS AND PARENTS.
>> CAN YOU CONFIRM ADEQUATE MITIGATION MEASURES BEEN PROPOSED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. >> YES, TURN LANES WILL BE PROVIDED. ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA THAT 751 SOUTH PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO DO. WE DID IDENTIFY THOSE AND THEN THE TRAFFIC STUDY SO THERE ARE SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED IN ADDITION TO THE TURN LANES DONE AT T THE SITE DRIVEWAY ON SCOTT KING ROAD. >> CLOSING, IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION DOES THIS SITE DESIGN SATISFY UDO, TRAFFIC STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS? >> YES, IT DOES. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. >> CONCLUSION, WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE TRANSPORTATION SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND MAJOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THE APPLICANT HAS PRESENTED SUBSTANTIAL MATERIAL EVIDENCE WHICH HAS BEEN ACCEPTED INTO THE REPORT BOTH IN DOCUMENT FORM AND EXPERT TESTIMONY TO SUPPORT THE APPROVAL OF THESE TWO SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
PRESENTED EVIDENCE ON ALL FACTORS IN CRITERIA THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE FOUND BY COUNCIL AND THERE HAS BEEN NO OPPOSITION SO WE WOULD ASK THAT SUBSTANTIAL MATERIAL EVDENCE HAS BEEN PERMITTED AND SENTED INTO THE RECORD DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS ENTITLED TO APPROVAL OF TRANSPORTATION SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND MAJOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THANK YOU. >> ASK FOR THEM? ANY OPPONENTS TO THIS APPLICATION WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I SEE NO ONE SIGNED UP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M NOW GOING TO ASK IF THE CTY STAFF HA A RECOMMENDATION CONCERNING USE PERMIT. >> IN LEGAL COUNCIL SHOULD THESE RECOMMENDATIONS BE STATED SEPARATELY FOR EACH MOTION OR SHOULD THEY BE DONE JUST TOGETHER? >> DONE SEPARATELY. >> STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE TRANSPORTATION SPECIAL USE PERMIT T 1600001 PROVIDED THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS SHALL BE SUBSTANTIAL CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANS AND INFORMATION SUBMITTED TO THE COULD BE SILL AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
>> THANK YOU. READY FOR A MOTION IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. AS OPPOSED TO OUR USUAL DELIBERATIONS, THE APPLICANT SIMPLY HAVE TO SHW THEY'VE MET THESE CRITERIA AND SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS, PATRICK THAT I — OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. I'LL ACCEPT MOTION TWOUN ADOPT ORDER APPROVING MOTION #1: TO ADOPT AN ORDER APPROVING A TRANSPORTATION SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL C (T1600001). MOVED AND SECONDED. MADAM CLERK, OPEN VOTE. PLEASE CLOSE THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU. >> AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT M 1800003 PROVIDED THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS SHALL BE SUBSTANTIAL CONSIST WITH THE PLANS AND INFORMATION SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCIL AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION BEEN MOVED AND SECOND THAT WE ADOPT MOTION #2: TO ADOPT A SEPARATE ORDER APPROVING A MAJOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL C (M1800003). MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN VOTE. CLOSE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> FINALLY BEING ASKED TO APPROVE MAJOR SITE PLN FOR DURHAM PUBLIC SCHOOLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL C. MOVED AND SECONDED. >> RECOMMENDATION, FIRST? >> I THINK IT'S NOT SPECIAL USE PERMIT, RIGHT? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THANK YOU, THOUGH. WE NOW HVE MOTION AND SECOND ON MOTION THREE. CLERK HAS VOTE OPEN. PLEASE VOTE AN THEN WE'LL CLOSE IT. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CLOSE THE VOTE.
THANK YOU. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE IT. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AT THIS HOUR. >> HOLD ON, MR. MAYOR. >> YOU'RE VERY LUCKY — >> THANK CITY ATTORNEY. >> LUCKY WE WERE REALLY MEAN EARLIER IN THE NIGHT. 40. CHRISTIAN AVENUE STREET CLOSING. CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING AND RECEIVE COMMENTS AND CONSIDER. >> MORNING CITY COUNCIL. GRACE SMITH WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THIS CASE ON THE HALF. SEAN STRIKLANDS REQUEST TO CLOSE 331 LINEAR FOOT PORTION OF CHRISTIAN AVENUE.
ZONING CASE Z 1700030 KNOWN AS HILLSBOROUGH COLE MILL. ALL COMMENTS RAISED HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND PERMANENT CLOSURE OF 331 FOOT PORTION OF CHRISTIAN AVENUE. WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD THE REPORT FROM STAFF AND NOW DECLARE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. I SEE WE HAVE — FIRST OF ALL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL? IF NOT, I SEE WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER WHO'S SIGN UP, SHANE STRICKLAND.
WELCOME P. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. SHANE STRICKLAND, 301 GLENWOOD AVENUE, RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA. APPLICANT. WE PROPOSE TO CLOSE END OF CHRISTIAN AVENUE BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT I NOT BEING USED AS WELL A AS IT POSSIBLY COULD BE. STAFF HAS BEEN GRACIOUS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS BEEN ONGOING FOR OUR FIRM. APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE CITY. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS MATTER? IF NOT, DECLARE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AND MATTER BACK BEFORE COUNCIL. NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT ORDER PERMANENTLY CLOSING THIS PORTION OF CHRISTIAN AVENUE. MOVED AND SECOND THAT WE ADOPT THE ORDER. ANY DISCUSSION? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTE. PLEASE CLOSE THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES F F F F 6-1 WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN VOTING NO. >> THANK YOU. 41. PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE BONDS BY THE PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THE FINANCING OF THE LYNNHAVEN APARTMENTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.
NOW HEAR — ALSO PUBLIC HEARING MATTER AND WE'LL HEAR FROM STAFF. >> WHO FROM STAFF'S BEEN REPRESENTED. >> MR. YOUNG DO WE HAVE STAFF REPRESENTING FOR ITEM 41? I NE IT'S LATE BUT WE STILL NEED YOU. >> I THINK THAT'S PLANNING. >> NOT PLANNING DEPARTMENT. >> KEITH, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT, PLEASE? >> KEITH CHADWELL, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. ITEM THAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU IS A MATTER OF A CONDUIT DEBT IN THE MATTER OF FINANCING PROJECT IN HOUSING AUTHORITY UNDER RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE IRK RS.
BOND COUNCIL IS PRESENT TO EXPLAIN DETAILS OF THE TRANSACTIONS FOR YOU THIS EVENING. >> THANK YOU. MR. CHRIS TELL, GOOD RIGHT THERE. >> GOOD MORNING. ERIC CRYSTAL THIS IS NOT DURHAM HOUSING AUTHORITY DEAL. IT'S ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY DEAL OUT OF WISCONSIN. IT IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTINUE WIT TRANSACTION, THE CITY UH WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY UH DEBT. NAME OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS LYNNHAVEN APARTMENTS AND SOUTHERN DURHAM OFF OF 70, AND LYNN ROAD.
PROJECT WILL CONTINUE TO BE AFFORDABLE I THINK UH UNTIL 2027. LITTLE LATE. SO THE MATERIALS ARE BEFORE YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> WE'VE APPROVED THIS ONCE BEFORE, THIS IS EXTENSION OF TIME RIGHT? >> YOU APPROVED THIS TRANSACTION ON LAST YEAR ACCORDING TO THE CODE, THE HEARING EXPIRED THEREFORE WE'RE ASKING FOR ARE REAPPROVAL. >> THANK YOU. YOU'VE HEARD REPORT FROM STAFF. THANK YOU. DECLARE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. FIRST, ASK IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, DECLARE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED. MATTER BACK BEFORE COUNCIL. WE NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION PROVINGISH — >> VI A QUESTION. >> COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN. >> DELAY? >> DELAY WAS FOR TWO REASONS.
NUMBER ONE WE SWITCHED RATING AGENCIES AND THE SECOND ONE WAS BECAUSE OF HUD APPROVAL, THEY NEEDED TO APPROVE THE TRANSACTION. >> ANYMORE QUESTIONS? IF NOT WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE UH BONDS. MADAM CLERK, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION — DO WE. >> I MOVED. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTE. PLEASE CHOSE THE VOTE. CLOSE THE VOTE.
>> RESOLUTION PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU. THIS IS THE KIND OF PROJECT WE NEED MORE OF IN DURHAM. GOOD TO HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. 42. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT WITH KIPCHOGE RYAN. >> CHRIS DICKEY WITH THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. BEFORE YOU IS ITEM BETWEEN CITY OF DURHAM AND KIPCHOGE RYAN. NEIGHBORHOOD REVARIETY LIE IIZATION GRANT IS AMOUNT OF $130,000. KIP WILLING TO PROPOSE RENOVATE BUILDING AT 1212 FAYETTEVILLE STREET IN DURHAM. PLAN IS TO REDEVELOP A 3700 SQUARE FOOT DRY CLEANING INTO OFFICE PLACE. NEW BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDE JOB OPPORTUNITY FOR LOCAL RESIDENCE, PROMOTE WALKABILITY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AFTER STAFF REVIEW, WE'RE RECOMMENDING GRANT IN ABOUT OF $115,000. PROJECT BE AN A ASSET FOR FAYETTEVILLE STREET COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
COMPLAEN EXPEND $300,000 IN HARD COSTS AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE. ADHERE TO DURHAM-BASED BUSINESS PLAN FOR CONSTRUCTION-RELATED TRADES AS CONTRACT DELIVERABLE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, M MR. DICKIE. JOUF HEARD THE RPORT FROM STAFF. DECLARE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. I SEE WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. FIRST IS KIP RYAN, AND SECOND IS PETER SKILLER. MR. RYAN, WELCOME. THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. KIPCHOGE RYAN. I LIVE AT 2111 DUNCAN STREET. GOT A LONG TIES HERE IN DURHAM. MY GRANDMOTHER WORKED AT CENTRAL AND GRADUATE OF THERE. MOTHER GOT AN ADVANCED DEGREE AT CENTRAL AND I TOO AM A NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL GRADUATE AND DURHAM RESIDENT. >> GOOD LEGACY. >> EXCITED TO BE A PART OF REVITALIZATION OF THAT CORRIDOR. FORMER WEAVER CLEANERS BUILDING AND PURCHASED THE BUILDING IN 2009 AND I'LL BE BRIEF. BEEN WORKING WITH MR. DICK KI AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT TRYING TO REVITALIZE THAT BUILDING.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL HAVE QUESTIONS BUT MR. SKILLER, YOU ALSO HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU. PETER SKILLER 2615 INDIAN TRAIL HERE IN SUPPORT OF MR. RYAN'S APPLICATION. WORKED WITH H MR. RYAN ON THIS PROJECT IN DEVELOPING PRO FORMA AND SITE PLAN TO BE SUBMITTED. WE CAME TO THIS PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE OUR ORGANIZATION OWNS 1208 FAYETTEVILLE STREET, THE NEIGHBORING BUILDING AND WE'VE RECEIVED A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE GRANT FROM THE CITY ON APPROVAL. THE PERMITTING PROCESS TOOK LONGER THAN WE THOUGHT IN PART BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO FIT 2018 ZONING REQUIREMENT INTO 1918 BUILDING. SOLUTION TO GET PARKING FOR OUR BUILDING WAS TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH KIP AND ADJUST REALLY UH WANT TO THANK MR. RYAN FOR SAYING YES. HE'S BEEN WORKING COLLABORATIVELY, LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THIS IS GOING TO MEAN FOR THE COMMUNITY, REVARIETYLIZATION OF BOTH OF THESE BUILDINGS.
AS YOU GO DOWN THE FAYETTEVILLE STREET, THERE'S LIBRARY ON THE RIGHT, PARLOR ON THE LEFT, PARKING LOT, WEAVER DRY CLEANERS AND THAT'S CRITICAL PIECE RIGHT NEXT TO STANFORD. GREAT PIECE TO REVITALIZE AND HERE IN UH SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS, FIRST OF ALL, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM? ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IF NOT, DECLARE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AND ASK IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL? I'LL START OFF WITH ONE. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS BEST FOR YOU MR. DICKIE OR FOR MR. RYAN. THIS SITE IS BEING REMEDIATED AS DRY CLEANING SITE AND I WONDERED THERE WERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT UNFORESEEN ENVIRONMENTAL COSTS AND RISZ HERE. >> I AM A PART OF THE DRY CLEANERS SOLVENT CLEANUP ACT PROGRAM. I MADE SURE I CONTINUED THE LEGACY ON PURCHASE OF THE BUILDING. THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REMEDIATION, MORE THAN SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH AND I CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE PROGRAM.
I GOT A CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH FROM THE EPA PRIOR TO PURCHASING THE BUILDING. >> OKAY. GOOD. AND THE REMEDIATION THAT OCCURRED — I ASSUME SOME SORT OF CONTINUING REMEDIATION, THEN? AND HOW LONG DOES THAT CONTINUE >> THERE IS CONTINUED ASSESSMENT AND A I'M WORKING WITH BILLY MEYER OUT OF RALEIGH. HE IS A WORKS WITH THE STATE AND SO REMEDIATION IS ON GOING BUT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR HOW LONG IT'LL CONTINUE. IT'S CONTINUALLY MONITORED. >> OKAY. THE PROGRAM THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SOLVENT PROGRAM, DOES THAT PROVIDE MONITORING ASSISTANCE OR FINANCIAL UH SUPPORT? >> IT ACTUALLY PROVIDES UP TO — DRY CLEANERS WERE LOCATED AROUND NORTH CAROLINA WHO WERE BECAUSE OF THE LAWS AS FAR AS DISPOSAL OF THE SOLVENTS, SO NORTH CAROLINA PUT IN PLACE THIS PROGRAM THAT HELPED MANY OF THESE DRY CLEANERS FOR UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS TO PROVIDE UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF REMEDIATION IF NECESSARY. >> I SEE. >> SO, UM, I'VE NOT — THE BUILDING IS NOT NECESSARILY REACHED THE CAP YET.
>> I SEE. >> AND SO BUT IT HAS PERFORMED REMEDIATION AND THEN THERE'S ON GOING MONITORING. >> SO IT COULD BE UP TO $300,000 MORE AVAILABLE FOR REMEDIATION? >> YES, SIR. >> THE REASON I'M ASKING IS WITH THE CITY INVESTMENT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF AND DOING EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO BE DOING FOR REMEDIATION BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM. CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE A HIGH COMFORT LEVEL WITH THAT? >> YES, WE HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL WITH THAT. >> OKAY. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED SUNRISE AS A POSSIBLE TENANT FOR THE BUILDING? >> YES, SIR. WE'RE SPEAKING TO SUNRISE RECOVERY CENTER AS WELL AS PROJECT ACCESS HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN BEING TENANTS, NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. >> FOR SOME REASON, I WAS THINKING THAT SUNRISE WAS POTENTIAL BUILDING IN THAT QUARTER, AM I WRONG? >> [LOW AUDIO]. >> COME ON UP TO THE — >> YOU HAVE EXCELLENT MEMORY. SUNRISE DID EXPRESS INTENT TO RENT OUR BUILDING. THEY'VE DECIDED THAT BEING AN OPEN SPACE KIP'S BUILD KG OFFER IS A BETTER FORMAT FOR THEM.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK AND REKRUT WITH KIP PROJECT ACCESS INTEREST AS WELL SO THEY WOULD PUT THEIR STAFF IN OUR BUILDING AND PUT THEIR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT FACILITY IN THE MIDDLE NEXT TO WHERE SUNRISE WOULD GO. >> RIGHT. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. ANY OTER QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN. >> WANTED TO ASK, NOTING THOSE THREE OR TWO ENTITIES, IS IT. ARE THERE SIGNED AGREEMENTS ALREADY IN PLACE? >> WE HAVE LETTERS OF INTEREST FROM SUNRISE AND WE DO NOT LETTER FROM PROJECT ACCESS BUT IN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITH THEM.
>> THAT WILL BE ALL. >> ANYMORE QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON. >> MAYOR PRO TEM WENT UP FIRST. I YIELD. >> THANK YOU. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD DESCRIBE FOR US SOME OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS OF YOUR PROJECT WHY YOU THINK THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD BENEFIT THE PROJECT SUCH THAT WE SHOULD INVEST PUBLIC MONEY. >> WELL, LIKE MR. SKILLER EXPLAINED, ITS LOCATION, VICINITY, PARTICULARLY HOW FAR IT IS FROM DOCKIN' STREET AND SOME HOMELESS ISSUES GOING ON, THAT AREA DEFINITELY NEEDS DEVELOPMENT, WITH THE WEAVER CLEANER BUILDING BEING CENTRALLY LOCATED TO THE DOCK INSTREET AS WELL AS WHAT WAS FORMERLY FAYETTEVILLE STREET PROJECT, WE THINK INVESTING IN THIS PROJECT WILL BE SPRING BOARD FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL MOVE RIGHT DOWN FAYETTEVILLE STREET TOWARD NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL. >> THANK YOU DO YOU HAVE PLANS OR THOUGHTS AROUND YOUR HIRING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION? ISSUINGS LIKE WAGES? WHETHER YOU'LL BE HIRING PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE IN DURHAM? WHETHER THE JOBS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE FORMERLY INCARCERATE ORD HAVE A CORRAL RECORD? >> YOU BRING UP VERY GOOD POINT.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN OUR EMBRYONIC STAGES SO I DO NOT HAVE CONCRETE PLANS, BUT IT IS MY INTENT TO USE AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION A LOCAL FIRM, IN PARTICULAR, I HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN CONSTRUCTION POJECT MANAGEMENT, SO MY OVERSIGHT WOULD BE INVOLVED, BUT AS FAR AS JOBS, THAT IS OUR INTENT AT THS TIME. >> ARE YOU OPEN TO HIRING PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD OR FORMERLY INCARCERATED PEOPLE? >> YES.
>> THANK YOU. >> DURHAM-BASED BUSINESS PLAN, YOU A DURHAM-BASED BUSINESS PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, CHRIS? >> YES, MAYOR SCHEWEL. >> THE WAY THAT WOULD WORK IS WE WOULD MONITOR THAT AND COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT. RIGHT NOW, UM, WE'RE ESTIMATING MINIMAL EXPENDITURES BEING ABOUT $300,000, APPROXIMATELY 100-150 THOUSAND DOLLARS GOAL OF THAT FOR DURHAM-BASED BUSINESS ACTIVITY. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON. >> THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS AND I'M PLEASED AND EXCITED THAT YOU'RE WADING INTO THIS AREA. I DON'T HAVE MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE STATE OF OUR CITY WITHOUT SOMEHOW ARE REVITALIZATION OF FAYETTEVILLE STREET CORRIDOR COMING UP.
THANK YOU. I HOPE THAT WE'LL APPROVE THIS INCENTIVE AND I HOPE THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF US PUTTING SOME SERIOUS MONEY INTO THAT CORRIDOR. ARE YO LEVERAGING GROUPS LIKE THE BLACK CHAMBER TO HELP PUT YOUR TENANT FINDING EFFORTS ON STEROID. ARE YOU PLUGGING INTO? >> I'VE ATTENDED SEVERAL MEETINGS AND SO, YES, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT, DEFINITELY. >> ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU. BEST WISHES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JUST A QUICK QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL COSTS IN MAKING SURE THAT YOU DO HIRE FOLKS WHO DO HAVE FORMERLY INCARCERATED RECORDS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE IS COSTS THAT THAT'S ALSO FACTORED IN TO THE INCENTIVE.
WONDERING WHY CUT FROM 130. >> SITTING DOWN AND BEEN EXTENSIVE PROCESS IN WORKING WITH MR. RYAN AND ONE THING I'VE IDENTIFIED IN WORKING WITH BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IS WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE GET TO A POINT IN UNDERSTANDING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT WHICH IS WHY PETER AND MR. RYAN IS WORKING SO WELL. PETER'S COMING ALONG TO PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WITH THAT. WHAT WAS REQUESTED IN TE BUDGET, I FELT $115,000 WAS ADEQUATE TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD WHERE THERE WOULD BE A SPLIT BETWEEN CITY AS WELL AS MR.
RYAN IN CARRYING THAT COST SOZ CITY WOULD NOT BE CARRYING WHOLE BURDEN. >> WITH THAT ADDED ADDITION OF COST AROUND HAVING FORMERLY INCARCERATED FOLKS ON CONSTRUCTION SITE S THAT ALSO FACTORED INTO YOUR NUMBER? >> I DIDN'T TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. COUNCIL HAS — HE DID APPLY UH FOR $130,000. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY OF THE COUNCIL, I'M GIVING WHAT THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FELT LIKE WAS THE ADEQUATE AMOUNT TO UH SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. >> IF YOU CAN JUST MAKE — I THINK AROUND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD A AND THE CONVERSATIONINGS I'VE HAD WITH CONTRACT IT'S AROUND A 5 ADDITIONAL COST, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO INCLUDING THAT FOR — >> AGAIN I WOULD STAND BY MY RECOMMENDATION AS THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC BUT COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHATEVER IT WANTS. >> I JUST WNT TO MAKE SURE THE PROJECT IS SUCCESSFUL. >> BASED UPON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PUT FORWARD THAT THE PROJECT WOULD BE SUCCESSFULLY SUPPORTED AT A 115,000 AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT BASED UPON INFORMATION SUBMITTED TO OUR OFFICER.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HVE HELD PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE CITY MOTION TO EXECUTE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT. MOVED AND SECONDED. MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN THE VOTE. PLEASE CLOSE THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YO SO MUCH. MR. RYAN THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK TO UH YOU. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THANK UH, YOUR CHRIS, WE APPRECIATE IT. PETER, WE REALLY DO. GOOD LUCK. EXCITED ABOUT IT. LET US KNOW WHEN WE COME AND CUT A RIBBON. TWO MORE ITEMS. 7 AND 12. 7. COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH GO TRIANGLE FOR DURHAM-ORANGE LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT (DOLRT) REVIEW. THIS WAS PULLED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR DISCUSSION OF SOME LANGUAGE AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM. COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN ALSO HAS QUESTIONS AND I BELIEVE SOME OF THE REST OF US MAY AS WELL. >> I DID PRESENT TO YOU A MEMO AT THE BEGINNING, YESTERDAY, OF THIS ITEM FOR CHANGES WE MADE TO THIS IN CONSULTATION WITH FOLKS FROM GOTRIANGLE TO MORE ACCURATELY DESCRIBE WHERE WE STAND IN RELATION TO THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE LITE RAIL CORRIDOR.
SO WE HAVE BASICALLY REPLACED ARTICLE THREE, PARAGRAPH F WHICH APPEARS ON PAGE 11, OF WHAT'S ON THE ON YOUR iPADSES WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT INCLUDED IN THE MEMO, AGAIN, MORE ACCURATELY STATING STATUS OF THAT ARRANGEMENT. IF YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, THEN WE WOULD PROPOSE A REVISED MOTION LANGUAGE: COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH TRY AGE WL ARE VISED ARTICLE THREE PARAGRAPH F DATED DECEMBER 2ND 20SHG 18 PRESENTED COUNCIL MEETING DECEMBER 3RD, 2018, AND TO AUTHORIZE MAC MANAGER TO EXECUTE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH REVISION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. YOU CAN DO THAT ALL IN ONE MOTION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE WE DISCUSS OTHER MATTERS, I WANT TO ASK IF WE FIRST DISCUSS CITY ATTORNEY'S MATTER. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY? >> WERE ANY OTHER ITEM DISCUSSES FROM WORK SESSION? REGARDING ANYTHING THAT I ASKED ABOUT? >> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH — >> FIRST TAKE UP THIS PARTICULAR ASPECT OF IT AND THEN WE'LL TAKE UP YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN. LET'S FIRST FOCUS ON THIS ONE ASPECT OF IT.
WE NEED TO — THE REASON ARE FOR THIS LANGUAGE IS TO .GIF SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY — GIVE MORE FLEXIBILITY OR BETTER EXPRESS SITUATION ON BLACK WELL STREET. I THINK WE HAVE BETTER LANGUAGE. COUNCIL MEMBER REECE. >> THANK YOU. PRIOR TO THIS, DID THE EXISTING LANGUAGE REQUIRE APPROVAL BY THE GOTRIANGLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES? WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE ORDINARY COURSE OF WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED ANYWAY? JUST CLARIFYING THAT? >> MR.
TOL MADGE. >> APPROVAL POLICY THAT THE GO TRY AGE A L BOARD OF TRUSTEE ACE DON'TED GOVERNING CHANGES TO THE PROJECT ONLY RESERVED THEIR EXPECTATION OF APPROVING FOR CERTAIN ITEMS AND THIS WOULD NOT HAVE TYPICALLY RISEN TO THAT LEVEL. THE STAFF ALWAYS HA THE OPTION TO BRING THINGS BUT THIS MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THIS WOULD COME TO GOTRIANGLE'S BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR DECISION. . >> HELPFUL. >> IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN ABOUT SOME OTHER ITEMS AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ALL THIS UP WITH A SINGLE MOTION AS RECOMMEND BID THE CITY ATTORNEY; IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND? OKAY, GREAT. COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN, YOUR QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. >> I THINK AT WORK SESSION I MENTIONED HOW THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PRIORITY NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED TO SHOW THAT WE WERE INTENTIONALLY FOCUSED ON RACE EQUITY AND ESPECIALLY ARUND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AS NOTED WITH THE PREVIOUS ROMF CASE HAD THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BEEN INCORPORATED AT THE BEGINNING WE WOULDN'T HAVE FACED THIS TYPE OF OPPOSITION AND I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT BEING INCLUDED IN THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT.
>> CAN WE HEAR FROM GOTRIANGLE STAFF? >> WE CERTAINLY ARE OPEN TO THAT KIND OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND INTEND TO DO MORE OF THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. I THINK, THROUGH THE LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY STAFF AND VETTING THE LANGUAGE IN HERE, OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO HAND THAT WILL AS ONE OF THE FUTURE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE REFERENCED IN HERE OR FUTURE COORDINATION A ACTIVITIES, BUT THAT THE COUNCIL TAKE THE DRAFT UP AS ITS WRITTEN TONIGHT.
WE'RE ALSO — THIS REFERENCES A NUMBER OF COMMITTEES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TOGETHER WITH THE CITY AT A STAFF LEVEL, AND WE ARE OPEN TO COVERING COMMUNICATIONS UNDER ANY ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES OR AS AN ONGOING TOPIC WITH THE EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE THAT WE HOLD EVERY TWO WEEKS. >> WHERE EXACTLY ARE YOU REFERRING TO IT REFERENCES? >> THIS IS ARTICLE FIVE, EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP COORDINATING COMMITTEE IS IDENTIFIED THRE IN A, AND THAT IS CITY MANAGER LEVEL WITH JEFF MANN, OUR CEO, OR ME AS DESIGNEE AND OTHER RELATED STAFF ON BOTH SI SIDES. THE OTHERS ARE WOULD BE RELATED TO E OR F, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, OR G — NOT G, CON CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS — OR WE COULD CREATE ANOTHER COMMITTEE AND I THINK THIS CONTEMPLATES THAT OTHER COMMITTEES WOULD BE CONTEMPLATED UNDER THIS TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT.
>> BUT THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT SAYS OTHER, IT'S ALL LABELED, ALL IDENTIFIED SPECIFICALLY FOR CONSTRUCTION, TRANSIT, WORKFORCE, TRANSIT OPERATIONS, FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY, DESIGN AND EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP. NOTICE HOW THEY'RE ALL LAID OUT SO THAT THOSE COORDINATING COMMITTEES WILL OCCUR AND EVEN THE EXTRA ADDITIONAL SECTION WHERE WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATION RECON RECON RECONFIGURE — >> THANK YOU. SO THE OTHER PLACES WHERE THIS HAS BEEN CONTEMPLATED IN CONVERSATION, ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION A, FUTURE COORDINATION, AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT IT SPELLS OUT PUBLIC ENGAGE AND COMMUNICATION WOULD BE THOSE TYPES OF COMMITTEES THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN FORMED BUT WOULD BE FORMED SO THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH CITY STAFF ON STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVE THE AIMS THAT I THINK DESCRIBED HERE. >> IF IF I COULD ASK A REALLY DIRECT QUESTION.
IN THE PAST, HOW HAVE YOU WORKED WITH MINORITY AND WOMEN IN BUSINESS TO ACHIEVE YOUR GOALS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT SPECIFICALLY IS WHERE I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS IS NOT SPELLED ENOUGH FOR ME TO FELL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS TYPE OF AGREEMENT. >> WITH ANY CONTRACT THAT WE UNDERTAKE THAT USES FEDERAL FUNDS, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED DISADVANTAGED ENTERPRISE GOAL THAT GETS SET WITH THAT CONTRACT THAT IS TIED TO AN ASSESSMENT OF THE AVAILABILITY OF THE FIRMS THAT CAN DO THAT WORK AND ARE CERTIFIED AS DISADVANTAGED ENTERPRISES.
THAT'S — I KNOW THE CITY USES DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGY IN THEIR CON TRACKING, DBE IS ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSPORTATION CONTRACTING. OVER PAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE HAD ROUGHLY 10% DBE PARTICIPATION IN OUR PROCUREMENT OPPORTUNITIES. ON THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE NOW FOR THIS LITE RAIL, BOTH THE ENGINEERING CONSUL ASSISTANTS, WE HAVE A GOAL OF 14% AND 15% ON THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CON — CONSULTANT. >> WHO IS RESPONSIBLE, WHO EXACTLY DIRECTS THAT GOAL YOU'RE SAYING IT'S SPECIFIC TO EACH PROJECT OR SEPARATE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU STANDARDLY SET.
>> WHAT WE HAVE SET, WE HAVE AN ANNUAL DBE GOAL THAT OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES SETS, RECOMMENDED TO THEM, THEY HAVE TO ADOPT IT, THAT'S PART OF THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR TRANSIT AGENCIES. AND THEN ON — AND THAT BASED UPON A FORECAST OF WHAT PROJECTS DO WE HAVE COMING UP, DO WE EXPECT TO HAVE COMING UP IN THE YEAR AND WHAT TYPES OF SERVICES ARE WE GOING TO NEED.
THEN FOR A SPECIFIC CONTRACT OR PROCUREMENT, THEN WE LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT, SET A GOAL, AND THAT GETS COMMITTED THROUGH VIA CONTRACT WITH THE CONSULTANT OR CONTRACTOR. >> SO CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? UNDER FUTURE COORDINATION, SAFETY AND SECURITY… WOULD IT BE — WHAT ABOUT ADD MINORITY AND WOMEN PARTICIPATION OR CON CONTRACTING? I THINK THAT MIGHT GO ALONG WAY TO ASSUAGE COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN AND I KNOW WE ALL SHARE HER CONCERN.
>> AS DO WE; I'LL TOOK TO MY ATTORNEY. IN COCEPT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. WA WE'D LIKE THE DO BECAUSE DISADVANTAGED BUSINESS ENTERPRISE IS THE TERMINOLOGY WE HAVE TO USE THAT WE'D USE CONSISTENT LANGUAGE WITH REQUIRED. >> SO IT WOULD SAY FOLLOWING TOPICS… PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND DISADVANTAGED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES? OKAY. >> ADDITIONALLY, JUST TO MAKE NOTE, RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS A NEW AREA THAT WE'RE IN BUT JUST IN THE SAME SENSE AS MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS CASE WHERE PUBLIC FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON HIRING MINORITIES AND THEN ALSO RETURNING SIT IS ZENS, INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS.
THE FACT THAT AT $115,000 WE'RE ASKING THE QUESTION AND AT $2.5 BILLION IT'S NOT AS A PROBLEM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO KICK INTO HIGH GEAR IN DURHAM. >> LET ME JUST RESPOND TO THAT WHICH IS WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME AT GOTRIANGLE BOARD. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS — YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY, VERY CONSTANT TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR THIS PROJECT AND ALL OF OTHERS. POINT IS VERY WELL TAKEN, SUPER IMPORTANT BUT IT IS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO — THE GOTRIANGLE BOARD IS BOARD AS OPPOSED TO CITY COUNCIL HAS OVERSIGHT ON THIS PROJECT AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT. >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT MAYOR SCHEWEL IS A MEMBER OF THAT BOARD AND HE IS THE GO-TO FOR THE INFORMATION, BUT THIS CONVERSATION, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN KIND OF LIKE PULLING TEETH TO GET ADDITIONAL INORMATION AND I'M KIND OF LIKE FED UP WITH IT, THAT'S ALL.
>> WHAT IS IS THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED? IS IT EMPLOYMENT STATISTICS? >> YES. I DID ASK FOR EMPLOYMENT STATISTICS AND CONTRACTING STATISTICS AS WELL AS THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD. HOW MANY PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE ON THAT BOARD? LIKE ALL OF THAT IS ALL INFORMATION THAT — >> THAT SHOULD BE VERY EASILY ACCESSIBLE AND I'M SUE THAT YOU ALL CAN PROVIDE THAT. >> WE CAN PROVIDE THAT. I HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR STAFF, THE RACIAL COMPOSITION OF OUR STAFF NOW IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO SRE THAT OTHERWISE WE CAN SEND THAT IN WRITING TOMORROW.
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD. >> SO WE DID PULL OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT PULED INFORMATION AND THE CATEGORIES ARE: GENDER, MALE/FEMALE, AND BY RACE. HIGHEST CATEGORIES, 45% BLACK MALE, 31% BLACK FEMALE, 16% WHITE MALE, 11% WHITE FEMALE, 4% HISPANIC MALE, 2% HISPANIC FEMALE, 1% MULTIRACIAL. >> ANYMORE QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. >> WELCOME. >> I THINK WE SHOULD SAY THOSE ARE VERY SUBSTANTIAL FIGURES IN EMPLOYMENT AND I WANT TO COMMEND THE AGENCY UH FOR GIVING THAT ATTENTION TO THAT. OKAY. ASK THAT WE ACCEPT, THAT WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT. LET ME GOAT MY LANGUAGE HERE. ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY IF HE WILL PROVIDE HIS LANGUAGE FOR THIS AND IT'LL BE WITH THE ADDITION OF THE PHRASE UTILIZATION OF DISADVANTAGED ENTERPRISES IN THE FOR FUTURE COORDINATION.
>> AND ON TOP OF THAT TO RATIFY BY RESOLUTION THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH GO TRY AGE WL THE RESIZED ARTICLE THREE PARAGRAPH F LANGUAGE PROPOSED IN MY MEMO THAT PROVIDED TO YOU TONIGHT, AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH THIS REVISION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. >> CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT AFFECT.
BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN THE VOTE? PLEASE CLOSE THE VOTE. >> NOW MOVING TO LAST ITEM IN WHAT IS BY FAR THE LONGEST CITY COUNCIL MEETING I'VE EVER BEEN AT. 12. CONTRACT FOR OFF-STREET PARKING ACCESS AND REVENUE CONTROL SYSTEM (PARCS) FOR THE CITY'S PARKING FACILITIES. I THINK WE ARE HAVE LANGUAGE CHANGES THERE. >> THANK YOU. ITEM 12, DUE TO SOME CONCERNS REGARDING PRIVACY AND THE USE OF SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT THE CONTRACTOR COULD PICK UP, WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD CERTAIN LANGUAGE TO SECTION 12 E OF THE AGREEMENT, UM, AND THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WE'RE ADDING AFTER ADDRESSES, COMA, AND DRIVER'S LICENSE IS THE PHRASES OF VEHICLE LICENSE NUMBERS, VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION, OR REGISTRATION INFORMATION.
SO THAT IS INFORMATION THAT CONTRACTOR WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM USING. JUST ADDING THOSE THREE CATEGORIES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE ITEM INCLUDING THE LANGUAGE THAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY? >> YES. JUST NOTING LIKE I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR THAT I'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE'VE JUST SEEN, THINGS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SHIFT AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR RESIDENCE AND COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU. ANYMORE COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT LANGUAGE, THE ADDITION OF THAT LANGUAGE I'M GOING TO ASK FOR MOTION THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACT WITH THE CAROLINA TIME AND EQUIPMENT INC. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTE. CLOSE THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL THE BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY. CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> LONGEST MEETING. >> DECLARE THIS MEETING AJOURNED AT 1:11 A.M..