good morning john everyone is talking about student loans incorrectly and it's making me frustrated so i'm making a video about some flat decontextualized numbers for you there's 1.75 trillion dollars of outstanding student debt in america held by around 45 million students that is roughly 39 000 of debt per student and what you would imagine given those numbers and what most people do imagine is the average college graduate headed out to the workforce with 39 000 of debt and this is entirely wrong first let us not forget about the 35 of people who get a degree and do not have student loans that number was a lot bigger than i expected it to be and i think it's important to say that it exists and that those people have like a leg up on the 65 percent of the students who graduate with that second this won't surprise you but you may not have noticed it the average student debt holder didn't just graduate they graduated a while ago and they have either been paying down their student debt or they haven't been in which case it's actually gone up due to interest so the 39 thousand dollars isn't what they come out with it's what is left after having been paid down so but even weirder the average student graduating from a four-year college or university has about 28 000 of student debt so it is strange that the average student debt holder has 39 000 of student debt what's going on here graduate school is mostly what's going on here here's the weirdest plot twist in all of this people who take out more student loans are less likely to default on their student loans much less likely in fact as you take out more and more student loans you become less and less likely to default on them so i guess we figured it out students just need to take out more student loans and everything will be better no something weird is going on here and we have to figure out what it is what is the weird thing that's going on well first people with a lot of student loans tend to be doctors and lawyers so that's one bit of this the bigger more surprising more upsetting reason that this is the case is that 40 of people with student loans dropped out without getting a degree this is a wide variety of kinds of people but they are more likely to be black and hispanic they are more likely to have gone to a high school in a low-income area they're more likely to be older when they start college and they're more likely to be first-generation students and their loans tend to be smaller because they tend to go to cheaper schools for not as long loan delinquency for this group is quadruple loan delinquency for people who graduated now again there are lots of reasons why people might be in bad situations with regard to their student loans and it's often not because they didn't graduate but this seems like a cohort that we don't talk about and a problem that we don't interface with very much and it is a very big problem like i'll say it again 40 of people with student loans are not going to get a degree this all happens for predictable reasons the biggest one being financial pressure college doesn't just cost the money you're spending but also your near-term lost income which is vital to many people and the support that they have to give to their families and the second biggest cause academic disqualification is caused by students not getting a good enough high school education being under-supported or over-committed during school there are a lot of hard parts and failures in higher education but taking billions and billions of dollars per year of financed money from students who aren't going to end up with a degree like that's astounding and it is infuriating to me this is the exact problem that crash course and arizona state university are trying to take on with our partnership providing structures to help students make good decisions earlier in their higher education process so they don't end up making expensive mistakes and also helping them learn information that they may not have been taught well in high school or may have forgotten since this is a very common outcome at some schools it is the most common outcome and i do not understand why we don't talk about it more because the result of not talking about it is understanding the student debt crisis entirely and correctly when we forgive debt 40 of the people whose debt is being forgiven are people who didn't end up with a degree students that didn't fail but were failed and on average people who have debt and no degree have around thirteen thousand dollars of debt we need to take on the student loan crisis and we also need to take on the dropout rate crisis not just with one-time debt forgiveness but by supporting students who are working to make their lives better john i'll see you on tuesday
