[ GAVEL ] >> WELCOME TO THE TUESDAY, APRIL 30TH, SANTA ROSA CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE'LL BE STARTING WITH A STUDY SESSION. CHIEF GOSSNER, WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE. >> HELLO EVERYONE. HAPPY TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THE CITYWIDE AFTER-ACTION REPORT OF THE OCTOBER FIRES OF 2017. WITH US WE HAVE CLALLERIE WILSON TO RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL BE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M CHARLIE FISHER. >> THERE YOU GO >> CHARLIE FISHER. [LAUGHTER ] >> CHIEF WAS JUST TRYING TO TEST ME. SENIOR MANAGERING DIRECTOR FOR WITT O'BRIENS A CRISIS MANAGEMENT FIRM BASED IN D.C., EXCEPT WHEN I'M WORKING IN TEXAS, I SAY WE'RE BASED IN HOUSTON. WE HAVE SEVERAL PRACTICE ONE OF WHICH IS TO FOCUS ON AFTER-ACTION REPORTS AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF BACKGROUND BEFORE GETTING INTO OUR FINDINGS HERE.
SOME EXAMPLES: SO THERE WAS A HORRIBLE FIRE IN A SKYSCRAPER IN CHICAGO, PEOPLE WERE SENT TO THE HALLWAYS AND STAIRWAYS AND NO ONE WAS ALL ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET THEM AND WE WERE ASKED TO DO AN ASSESSMENT THERE. SOME OF OUR FINDINGS ACTUALLY RESULTED IN MAJOR CHANGES IN THE WAY THE MAJOR CTIES FIGHT SKYSCRAPERS USING MUTUAL AID FROM THE SUBURBS SO THE OUTER RINGS CAN COME IN AND HELP IS SUPPORT THAT. ANOTHER EXAMPLE YOU MAY RECALL THE HORRIBLE INCIDENT AT THE STAGE RIGHT BEFORE THE CONCERT AND WE WERE ASKED BY THE GOVERNOR TO DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THAT. THAT REPORT HAS HAD SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUTDOOR EVENTS, AND HAS BEEN UTILIZED BY THE NFL AND MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL AND THIS REPORT WAS ACTUALLY A SECOND REPORT THAT WAS CONDUCTED ON THE INCIDENT OF THE FIRE. THE INITIAL REPORT WAS COMPLETED BY A COMPANY CALLED KELLE KROLL GROUP THAT FOCUSED ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CENTER DURING THE EVENT. THAT REPORT WAS COMPLETED BY KELLE HERSELF AND SID NEY REED, AS WELL AS OTHER MEMBERS MARJORY AND PAUL AND JANET CHILDS OF THE OFFICIALS OF THE CITY ENGAGED US TO DO A COMPARATIVE BIDDING PROCESS AND ASKED US TO CONDUCT A WIDER REPORT THAT WOULD LOOK AT NOT JUST WITHIN THE OPERATIONS WITHIN THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, BUT RATHER WHAT WAS GOING ON ON THE GROUND WITH THE INDIVIDUAL FIREFIGHTERS AND WITH THE INDIVIDUAL POLICE OFFICERS, ALL OF THE PERSONNEL FROM THE CITY.
AND TO SOME — TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN TELL THE STORIES OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT. OUR TEAM THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT SINCE LAST YEAR INCLUDED DOUG MAIN, A FORMER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE STATE OF HAWAI'I AND LIKES TO NOTE HE LEFT BEFORE THE MISSILE NOTICE WENT OFF. HE WAS NOT THE DIRECTOR AT THAT TIME. AS WELL AS MATT STANLEY FORMER FIREFIGHTER, KARLA POOL FORMER POLICE OFFICER, ROBERTO AND FORMER CITY MANAGER AD MAT HURLOCKER, WHO WORKED ON BOTH PROJECTS. WE INTERVIEWED OVER 9 PEOPLE INCLUDING MANY OF YOU AND WE REVIEWED AND EVALUATED SEVERAL PLANS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS. OUR REPORT, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE REPORT IN DETAIL. I WANT TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS, SO WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION HERE TODAY. BUT OUR REPORT INCLUDES A DESCRIPTION OF THE EVENTS AND LEADING UP TO THE FIRE AND THE FIGHTING THE FIRE ITSELF, THE EVACUATION, REENTRY, RECOVERY, BRIEF DISCUSSION OF THE WATER QUALITY ISSUE THAT IS COVERED MUCH MORE AND THE REPORT TAT YOU KNOW OF.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE CONDITIONS, AND PERSPECTIVE THE YEARS THAT IT EXISTED PLYER TO, YEARS OF DROUGHT AND WIND SPEEDS THAT MORNING AND EVENING OF 69 PLUS MILES AN HOUR AND THE FIRE SPREADING VERY FAST. WE NOTED IN REPORT THERE WAS A SIMILAR FIRE AS YOU KNOW IN 1964 THAT AFFECTED THIS AREA. THAT FIRE TOOK THREE DAYS TO DO ITS DAMAGE. THIS FIRE DID THE SAME DAMAGE AND MORE IN JUST THREE HOURS. I WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH, AND DID TOUR THROUGH THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED, AND AFFECTED BY THIS. THE HILTON COMPLEX, CERTAINLY FOUNTAIN GROVE, PARADISE INN THAT THREATENED HOSPITAL THAT WAS THREATENED AND THE COUNTY FACILITY ITSELF, AND REMARKABLE CROSSING OF 101 ALL LANES BY THE FIRE. WE NOTE IN HERE THAT THERE WERE MANY, MANY FIRES THAT NIGHT AND, IN FACT THE RECORDS OF RED COM, THE OFFICIAL COMMUNICATIONS NETWORK FOR THE AREA NOTE THAT ON A NORMAL DAY THEY WOULD GET 900 CALLS A DAY. THEY WERE GETTING 900 DAYS AN HOUR DURING THIS EVENT. ONE OF THE MOST REMARKABLE STATISTICS THAT WE FOUND IN OUR REPORT THAT IS THERE WERE 75 REQUESTS FOR STRIKE TEAMS THAT EVENING.
THAT IS FIVE ENGINES, CHIEF CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. THAT IS A PHENOMENAL AND BECAUSE OF WHERE YOU ARE LOCATED, PHYSICALLY HERE, GEOGRAPHICALLY, OFTEN TIMES PEOPLE COMING IN FROM THE NORTH, FROM ELSEWHERE, WERE DIVERTED TO THE FIRES IN OHER AREAS. SO MANY OF THAT MUTUAL AID DIDN'T ARRIVE UNTIL MUCH LATER IN THE MORNING. I WANT TO NOTE THAT RESULTED IN YOUR STAFF HAVING TO GO FAR BEYOND WHAT IS STANDARDLY RECOMMENDED FOR FIRE PROTECTION, FIREFIGHTING.
FOR EXAMPLE, TWO-UNIT APARTMENT FIRE NORMALLY WOULD REQUIRE SIX ENGINE TEAMS, TO WATER TENDERS, TWO CHIEF OFFICERS. THAT NIGHT, THAT WAS FOUGHT BY ONE ENGINE TEAM, AND ONE CAPTAIN. THE CHIEF AND OTHERS PUT INTO EFFECT LEADERS AND STRATEGIES FOR FIGHTING THE FIRE GIVEN THE RESOURCES THAT WERE AVAILABLE AND NOT AVAILABLE, AND THAT WAS CONTINUOUSLY COMMUNICATED THROUGH DISPATCH TO EVERYONE THAT NIGHT. PRIORITIS WERE VERY CLEARLY STATED, LIFE-SAFETY, RESCUE-SAFETY, EVACUATION, PERIMETER CONTROL. THERE WERE — WE HEARD FROM INDIVIDUAL FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARRIVED ON THE SCENE THAT THEY BASED ON THE GUIDANCE THEY TOOK INDEPENDENT ACTION.
THEY SAW FIRES. THEY ADDRESSED THEM, AND MOVED ON TO ANOTHER. ONE FIREFIGHTER NOTED THAT IF THE WINDS HAD LASTED ANOTHER SIX HOURS WE WOULD HAVE LOST HALF THE CITY. I'M SORRY, THANK YOU. SO AS YOU KNOW, 62 CITY EMPLOYEES LOST THEIR HOMES THAT NIGHT. SOME OF WHICH ARE IN THIS ROOM, DESPITE THAT, THEY KEPT WORKING. THERE WERE A LOT OF STORIES IN REPORT. WIN ONE THAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU RIGHT NOW, A FIREFIGHTER WAS WAS DISPATCHED AND HE WAS FIGHTING FIRES AND LITERALLY SAVING LIVES GOING TO ONE HOME WOMAN REFUSE D TO LEAVE WITHOUT HURRICANE DOG AND GOT OUT SAFELY. YOU GOT A CALL FROM ASKED HER TO GET THE KIDS AND GET INTO THE CAR AND TO A RELATIVE'S AND SHE SEES THE FIRE ALREADY IN HER BACKYARD, AND A FEW MINUTES LATER CALLS THEM BACK AND THEY ARE IN THE CAR AND HEADING DOWN THE HILL.
AND SHE WILL LET HIM KNOW WHAT SHE GETS THERE. HALF AN HOUR GOING BY AND HE IS CONTINUALLY FIGHTING FIRES GOING FROM ONE TO ANOTHER AND DOESN'T HEAR FROM THIMAND CALLS HIS COLLEAGUE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL. THE COLLEAGUE SAYS NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM. THEY HAVEN'T COME DOWN. AN HOUR GOES BY, TWO HOURS. THREE HOURS. EIGHT HOURS GO BY AND HE CONTINUES TO FIGHT FIRES PUTTING AND SAVING LIVES NOT KNOWING THE FATE OF HIS OWN FAMILY.
FORTUNATELY, THEY WERE ABLE TO SEEK SHELTER IN A BUILDING DISTANCE FROM THE SANTA ROSA FIRE DEPARTMENT, A POLICE OFFICER, WHO HELPED THEM — THE FIRE JUST JUMPED OVER THIS BUILDING AND THEY WERE ABLE TO SURVIVE. BUT THE TENACITY AND THE DEDICATION AS WE NOTE IN THE REPORT, HE SAYS HE DOESN'T EVEN REMEMBER DOING THIS, BUT 34 TIMES HE TEXTED HR DURING THOSE EIGHT HOURSES TO SEE WHERE SHE WAS. THAT IS DEDICATION THAT YOU SHOULD ALL BE VERY PROUD OF. THE EVACUATION — I THINK THAT THE EVACUATION IS A REMARKABLE STORY. YOU WERE ABLE TO EVACUATE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WITH — THE STORIES OF POLICE AND FIRE OFFICIALS GOING DOOR-TO-DOOR, PEOPLE'S HOMES ON FIRE AND YARDS ON FIRE AND GOING AROUND THAT.
I DO WANT TO KNOW THAT THE SAFETY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS — THANK YOU — THAT THE SAFETY RECORD OF THE DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE AS WELL. ONLY ONE FIRE INJURY DURING THE ENTIRE EVENT. YOU'RE STANDING UP SHELTERS VERSUS INTERIM FOR LONGER TERM RECOVERY AND VERY EFFECTIVE REENTRY AND NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IN DETAIL ROOTING NOW, BUT THE EXHAUSTIVE EFFORTS THAT HAVE GO ON SINCE RECOVERY. THE 44 FATALITIS THAT EVENING AS YOU KNOW, NINE HERE IN SAN SANTA ROSA AND WE DEDICATE OUR REPORT TO THEM. 5,000 HOMES DESTROYED, 36 COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES, THE WORKERS AND YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS WERE WILLING DO ANYTHING TO HELP RESIDENTS THAT NIGHT, EVEN IN THE FACE OF DANGERS. AND I HAVE TO NOTE WHEN WE DO THESE REPORTS THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. WE HAVE SEEN SITUATIONS WHERE IN VERY DISASTROUS SITUATIONS SOME OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS DID NOT SHOW UP, OR LEFT.
VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE HERE. THE OVERALL ATTITUDE OF THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY IS REMARKABLE TO ME. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KEPT COME BACK TO WHEN LOOKING AT OUR NOTES FROM THE INTERVIEWS IS A QUOTE ONE PERSON SAID, "WE DID WHAT WE COULD WITH WHAT WE HAD." AND THAT IS VERY MUCH I THINK THE THEME OF THE NIGHT. PEOPLE CREATIVELY AND QUICKLY SOLVED PROBLEMS EXECUTED PLANS TO REDUCE PAIN AND SUFFERING AND LOSS OF LIFE. THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE AS WELL. THE CITY'S LEADERS WERE TRAINED, AND I THINK VERY IMPORTANTLY, REMAINED CALM, ISSUING EVACUATION ORDERS, IMPLEMENTING THOSE ORDERS. AND ALSO, VERY IMPORTANT LEADERS LISTED TO AND TRUSTED THEIR STAFF OF THE WHEN WE DO A ACTION REPORTS WE FIND THAT TEAMS PRACTICE FOR EMERGENCIES AND OFTEN TIMES THE LEADERS ARE TOO BUSY TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE PRACTICES.
AND WHEN THE ACTUAL EVENT OCCURS, THE LEADERS THEN STEP IN AND MESS IT UP, AND IT WAS NOT THE CASE HERE. LEADERSHIP LISTENED TO WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE AND LISTENED TO THEIR STAFF AND MOVED ON. SO WE IDENTIFIED — GO AHEAD HERE — SO WE IDENTIFIED A FEW AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT. I THINK THAT THERE IS — THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE FOCUS ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HERE IN THE CITY. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. BT IT'S FASCINATING TO ME THAT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TWO NEXT IN THE EAST, THE RESOURCES DEDICATED TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ARE REMARKABLE, BUT LOOK AT WHAT OCCURED IN THE LAST 25 YEARS. WE HAD TERRORIST ATTACKS AND MAJOR POWER OUTAGES AND HURRICANES AND AS A RESULT, I ASKED OUR STAFF IF THEY GO A SURVEY AND OVERALL STAFFING FOR COMMUNITIES THIS SIZE WAS NOT VERY SUBSTANTIAL.
BT I DO THINK THAT YOU — GIVEN THE EXISTENCE OF THIS EVENT, AND FUTURE THREATS, THE SUBSEQUENT FIRES THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THIS EVENT, YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING MORE AT YOUR RESOURCES. YOUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, YOU DON'T HAVE A FULL-TIME EMERGENCY CENTER, BUT YOU HAVE A TEMPORARY THAT IS BASICALLY A FACILITY THAT IS USED AND TAKES A WHILE TO GET STARTED UP. IT'S OFTEN TIMES UNAVAILABLE TO BE USED FOR DRILLS AND I THINK THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU SHOULD MAKE THAT A LARGER INFORMATION THAT WASN'T COMING IN REGARDING THE NEARBY FIRES IN OTHER COMMUNITIES ADJACENT COMMUNITIES. THE FACT THAT THE CHIEF WAS NOT INFORMED THAT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO BEFORE STRIKE TEAMS STEP UP HERE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THESE THINGS WITHOUT HAVING THOUGHT ABOUT THEM BEFOREHAND.
THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE EVENT OF A HORRIFIC DISASTER LIKE YOU GOT HERE. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SOMETHING THAT IS BEING DONE NOW IN SACRAMENTO AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE EVENT OF A HORRIFIC DISASTER LIKE YOU GOT HERE. I WANT TO NOTE THAT STEP-UP HERE, IT IS SOMETHING THAT — YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO — SOMETHING THAT IS BEING DONE NOW IN SACRAMENT AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. MY COLLEAGUE MATT HURLOCKER WROTE A WHITE PAPER ABOUT JAS. AND IN OTHER DISASTERS THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON THOSE — THE LESSONS THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE REPORTS HAVE RESULTED — AND IN OTHER DISASTERS NOT ONLY IN THOSE COMMUNITIES BUT OTHERS AS WELL, WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN INFLUENCE POLICY REGARDING EVACUATION, WATER AND SO FORTH.
THE CITY HAS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAD. TODAY WE LEARNED MORE ABOUT — AND FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO NOTE AS I SAID WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND DOING IT IN SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES. THE CITY HAS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT WENT THROUGH SOME VERY, VERY HARD TIMES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION IS THAT IN SOME OF THESE OTHER CMMUNITIES, EVERYBODY KIND OF TURNED AGAINST EACH OTHER.
COUNCIL MEMBERS TURNED AGAINST STAFF, THE STAFF TURNED AGAINST STAFF A LOT OF FINGER-POINTING, A LOT OF ACCUSATIONS, AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT HERE. I THINK THAT THAT IS A TRIBUTE TO YOUR COMMUNITY; THIS IS PROBABLY – I'M NOT SAYING "PROBABLY," IT'S THE WORST DISASTER WE HAVE DONE IN THESE REVIEWS AND THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE COME THROUGH IT AND APPROACHED IT IN THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF. VERY HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. CHIEF GOSSNER, I KNOW YOU GAVE ALL OF COUNCIL A PRIORITY LIST OF ACTION ITEMS. >> WHEN YOU STEP UP HERE – YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO — SOMETHING THAT IS BEING DONE NOW IN SACRAMENTO AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUNDING THE COUNTRY TO MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE — >> SOME OF THEM ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS.
A LOT OF THIS IS A BIT OF A LIVING DOCUMENT, MEANING WE'RE ALWAYS MAKING IMPROVEMENTS WHERE WE CAN. AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE USING THIS DOCUMENT FOR, REALLY; IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MONITORING OUR PROGRESS. MAKE SURE WE CAN REPORT-OUT TO COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER MOVING FORWARD ON WHERE WE'RE AT, AND WHY WE'RE WHERE WE ARE AT. SO A LOT OF IT IS FUNDING. A LOT OF IT IS JUST TIME AND CMMITMENT, AND SOME OF IT IS WAITING FOR OTHER ACTIONS TO TAKE PLACE WHETHER AT THE COUNTY-LEVEL, THE STATE-LEVEL, THE FEDERAL-LEVEL.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT KIND OF GO INTO SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OF WE HAVE TIMELINES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AND WE'RE TRYING TO HIT THAT MARK. >> SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO THE COUNCIL. SO THIS WILL BE A LIVING DOCUMENT. THERE ARE PROBABLY THINGS THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THIS LIST OF ITEMS AND THINGS THAT WILL RETIRE ONCE WE HAVE PUT INTO EFFECT THE CHANGES.
BUT THE FIRST GO AROUND WAS TO ADDRESS THE POINTS THAT WERE RAISED IN THE AFTER-ACTION REPORT, GIVE THE COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THAT PROCESS IS, AND WHEN WE'RE EXPECTING TO ACHIEVE DELIVERABLES. THERE IS SOME THINGS THAT WILL BE ONGOING AND THEY ARE JUST GOING TO BE PART OF OUR ANNUAL WAY OF DOING BUSINESS. BT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE REPORT WAS A NEED TO REALIGN SOME OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AND TO HAVE A BETTER WORKING UNDERSTANDING FOR THE COUNCIL DURING A DISASTER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING START WITH IS AN EXERCISE THAT WILL INVOLVED COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS SUMMER.
IT'S IN THE DOCUMENT. WE'RE GOING PUT A POLICY CMMITTEE TOGETHER. THAT POLICY COMMITTEE WILL BE HAVE THE PLAYER AND THE VICE-MAYOR INVOLVED, BUT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE PARTICIPATE, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DRILL. AND ONCE WE GO THROUGH THAT DRILL TOGETHER, THEN WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK A WRITTEN POLICY. SO THAT WE HAVE A WAY O UNDERSTANDING WHERE THAT RESPONSIBILITY IS. BUT EVEN IMBEDDED IN THAT WAS WHEN THE CITY CREATED A PIO FUNCTION FOR THE CITY. WE NOW HAVE A WAY TO CREATE A LIAISON, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THERE IS SOME THINGS THAT WILL COME FORWARD OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT TO IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS POLICY GROUP. WE'RE GOING TO DRILL AROUND AND IT THEN WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE, AND YOUR INPUT, A RECOMMENDATION ON A POLICY THAT WE CAN FORMALIZE AROUND THOSE PARTICULAR EVENTS.
>> GREAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK AND REALITIESING REALIZING THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT AND WHERE WILL THIS BE SO MEMBERS OF THE PUSH AND ONE OF THE REASONS THIS CHAMBER IS NOT PACKED THIS AFTERNOON. A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION I THINK MANY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNICATION HAVE NO CLUE HOW COMPLEX THIS IS AND I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. >> AFTER TNIGHT, WE'LL TAKE ANY INPUT THAT WE GARNER THIS EVENING, AND WE'LL FINALIZE THE DOCUMENT AND PUBLISH THE DOCUMENT WITH THE REPORT ON THE RECOVERY SITE AND IT WILL BE THERE ONGOING MOVING FORWARD. >> GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL, QUESTIONS? MR. VICE-MAYOR? >> >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO AS I WAS READING THROUGH THE REPORT I WAS TRYING TO CLUSTER IT INTO THEMES. AND WAYS THAT WE COULD SORT OF START A CONVERSATION OR FURTHER A CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THE PARTICULARLY THE CRITICISMS WERE WHILE HIGHLIGHTING THE GOOD, AND ONE OF THE MAIN THEMES THAT I SAW THERE WAS THE NEED TO BREAK DOWN SILOS. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR FOCUS ON REGIONAL SOLUTIONS TO THIS.
SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY MANAGER, IF WE COULD UPDATE THE PUBLIC ON WHERE WE'RE AT ON A COUPLE OF THINGS: FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE HAVE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT WHAT LONG BEACH, WHAT SAN DIEGO, WHAT SOME OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS DO TO PULL PEOPLE TOGETHER ON TO WEEKL OR BI-WEEKLY PHONE CALLS FOR CROSS-COORDINATION, CN YOU TALK WHAT WE'RE ACTIVELY DOING? >> ONE THING THAT TAKES BASE IS A SITUATIONALITY BRIEFING HOSTED BY THE COUNTY. I HAVE TO COMPLIMENT OF THE COUNTY. THEY STEPPED INTO — THEY HAVE LEANED INTO THIS CONVERSATION. THEY HAVE EXPANDED THEIR DEPARTMENTAL RESPONSIBILITIES. THEY ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING IN THEIR BUDGET TO HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF. THEY ARE TAKING THEIR ROLE AS FACILITATOR VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY AND WE'RE FELING VERY GOOD ABOUT THAT. THEY HOST A SITUATION BRIEFING CALL EVERY MONDAY WHERE WE REVIEW ANY KINDS OF EVENTS, AS WELL AS INCIDENTS THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON. ALL THE CITIES, AND THE COUNTY PARTICIPATE AND TAT BECOMES THE FOUNDATION AND I HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUES AT OTHER CTIES REALLY WEATHER THE FLOODS THAT HAPPEN. REPORT-OUTS THAT WE DIDN'T GET HIT AS HARD, BUT THE REPORT-OUTS FROM OTHER COLLEAGUES AT OTHER CITIES THAT REALLY HELPED THEM MANAGE THROUGH A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION AND WE'RE SEEING THAT IMPROVEMENT.
YOU SAW JOINT POWERS AUTHORITIES, WE'RE WORKING ACTIVELY WITH COUNTY AND OTHER CITIES AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS BACK FOR CONSIDERATION OF THIS BODY TO JIN A JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY, WHICH WOULD REPLACE THE OLD EMERGENCY COUNCIL, AND CREATE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE INCORPORATED AREAS, AND THE COUNTY TO REALLY STRENGTHEN OUR RESPONSE AND OUR PREPARENESS INITIATIVES, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS POINTED OUT AS SOME OF THE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT EXIST AROUND THE STATE. >> AND IT WAS NOTED IN THE REPORT THAT IT TOOK 48 MNUTES I THINK WAS THE NUMBER TO GET THE EOC FROM A COLD STATUS TO FULL PLEDGED UP AND RUNNING. ARE WE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A WARM STATUS FOR THE EOC? PARTICULARLY AROUND RED-FLAG WARNINGS? >> AS YOU SAW, WE'RE CHANGING OUR PROCESS AROUND TRIGGERS THAT WHEN WE DO FORECASTING MODELS.
WE HAVE DONE THAT THROUGH THE WET SEASON. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT THROUGH THE FIRE SEASON. WE'LL HAVE THAT RUNNING BEFORE THE END OF THE SUMMER. BUT ABSOLUTELY TO YOUR POINT, YES. WE'RE CHANGING OUR PROCESS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON THE FORECAST AND WHAT WE BELIEVE THE FORECASTING WE HAVE SPECIFIC TRIGGERS AROUND THAT. >> CHIEF, IF I COULD GET YOU TO ALSO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEED ABATEMENT AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT? HOW SHOULD THE COMMUNITY VIEW THOSE TWO CONVERSATIONS DISTINCTLY? AND WHAT SHOULD THEY EXPECT TO SEE IN THE NEXT SAY SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR? >> AS HE YOU KNOW THE WEEDS ARE VERY HIGH RIGHT NOW, EVEN ANYWHERE MY HOUSE, 4.5-5' TALL AND THEY ARE STILL GREEN AND WILL TURN BROWN HERE SOON WITH THE HEAT AND THE WIND.
SO WEED ABATEMENT REALLY DEALS WITH THE GROUND COVER, THE WEEDS. VEGETATION IS MRE THE BRUSH AND TREES AND LIMBING AND PRODUCING THAT SAFE SPACE AROUND RESIDENCES OR PROPERTIES TO LIMIT THE SPREAD OF FIRE. RIGHT NOW THE CITY HAS A WEED ABATEMENT PROGRAM AND WE DO HAVE APPLIED FOR A NUMBER OF GRANTS. W HEARD ON SOME THAT WE WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL ON. THERE IS A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND ANY URBAN OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO EVEN BEFORE WE HEAR ABOUT THE GRANT OPPORTUNITY. WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE AWHAT WE'RE DOING IS IMPACTING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 30% O OUR CITY RESIDES IN THE WILDLAND INTERFACE AND WITHIN THAT 30% IS $4.5 BILLION OF SEATS.
FOUNTAIN GROVE SAYS FIREWISE COMMUNITY AND OAKMONT IS GOING THROUGH IT AND OTHER PORTIONS SKYHAWK IS LOOKING AT BEING A FIREWISE COMMUNITY AS WELL. WHAT THAT DOES IS HELP US IF A FIRE STARTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT HELPS IT REMAIN SMALL SO WE GET K GET THERE AND PUT IT OUT. WHAT WE SAW ON OCTOBER OF 2017 WAS THE FIRE THAT STARTED IN ANOTHER COUNTY THAT REALLY CAME TO US UNDER THOSE HIGH WIND SITUATIONS. BY THE TIME IT HIT US IT WAS FIVE MILES WIDE. SO IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIGHT ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE JUST HAD TO GET PEOPLE OUT. BUT IF WE HAVE A REGIONAL APPROACH WITH VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, THAT WOULD CREATE SOME SPACE IN THESE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE SOME OF THE HISTORICAL FIRES THAT LEAD TO LARGE LOSS OF HOMES AND LIFE AND QUESTION MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S A REGIONAL APPROACH. IT TAKES NOT ONLY SONOMA COUNTY, BUT NAPA COUNTY AND MARIN COUNTY AND ALL THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US TO DO THE SAME THING; RIGHT? SO YOU CAN BE THE MOST PREPARED AS YOU CAN BE, BUT IF NOBODY ELSE IS DOING ANYTHING, IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT UNDER THOSE VERY EXTREME CONDITIONS.
SO IT TAKES A REGIONAL APPROACH AND I THINK THE COUNTY IS MAKING GOOD HEADWAY IN SOME OF THEIR VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND YOU KNOW %BACK I KNOW THE STATE I RAMPING UP WITH THE GOVERNOR AND CAL FIRE WHAT THEY ARE DOING. BUT THE STATE IS A VERY BIG ENTITY SO THEY HAVE MILLIONS OF ACRES TO DEAL WITH; RIGHT? AND SO IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE, BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH RESOURCE. >> AND I DO RECOGNIZE TALK ABOUT RESOURCES, THAT WE ARE ADVOCATING IN SACRAMENTO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS NOTED ON PAGE 37 OF THE REPORT WAS OUR REQUEST FOR MUTUAL AID DID NOT ARRIVE FOR ABOUT 36 HOURS BECAUSE THEY WERE SPREAD SO THIN.
I BELIEVE THE GOVERNOR IS LOOKING AT INCREASING FUNDING FOR MUTUAL AID AROUND THE STATE IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. THEY ARE INCREASING SOME FUNDS. WE DID A LOT OF WORK LAST YEAR BEHIND-THE-SCENES WITH THE STATE, AND CAL CHIEFS. WE HAVE DISASTER READINESS FOR SAFER COMMUNITIS, $25 MILLION WAS PUT UP BY THE STATE TO UPSTAFF DURING THE RED-FLAGS. IT'S IPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAD TEN, ELEVEN, MAYBE TWELVE RED-FLAGS LAST YEAR. PROBABLY LASTED 20, 21 DAYS. BUT NOT EVERY RED-FLAG IS THE SAME. SACRAMENTO IS IN A RED-FLAG ALMOST ALL SUMMER, REDDING IN A RED-FLAG ALMOST ALL SUMMER. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR US, BUT WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS THAT PREDICTIVE PART OF IT. AND WE KNOW. WE HAVE SEEN MANY PRESENTATIONS OF WHAT HAPPENED TO U AND I HAVE GIVEN MANY PRESENTATIONS.
WHAT WE NEED IS THE PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS TO LET US FORECAST WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN. IT HAPPENS ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR. THERE IS SOME YEARS IT HAPPENS MORE AND THERE IS SOME YEARS IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT ALL, BUT THOSE DRAYTS TO REALLY HONE IN AND REALLY UP STAFF AND REALLY MESSAGE AND THAT IS WHEN YOU OPEN THE WARM EOC AND THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO WITH IT. RIGHT NOW WHEN A RED-FLAG HAPPENS WE UPSTAFFED WITH THE COUNTY FUNDS AND WITH STATE FUNDS. SO WE HAVE TWO STRIKE TEAMS. ONE STRIKE TEAM AND ONE TASK FORCE AND WE SENT ALL OUR RESOURCE S TO THEM. WE CANNOT HOLD ON TO RESOURCES WHEN THEY ARE LOSING STRUCTURES. SO IT DOES WORK, BUT WE NEED SOME MORE REFINEMENT AND I THINK WE AS A FIRE INDUSTRY, THE WEATHER SERVICE, ALL THAT IS TRYING TO FIND WHERE THAT LINE IS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. I WILL QUOTE FROM THE REPORT BCAUSE I THINK IT'S TELLING ON PAGE 34 IT SAYS, "THESE FIRES SHOW THAT THE TUBBS FIRE SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED UNUSUAL.
YOU ATHREE FIRES MANING THE HANDLELEY AND GREAT FIRE AS WELL IGNITED IN THE CAL STOG STOGA AREA AND EXACERBATED BY THE SAME HOT NORTHLY WINES AND THOUGH IT'S DIFFICULT TO PRODICTATE THE NEXT DISASTER OCCURS THESE FACTORS COMBINED LIKELY CAUSE ANOTHER PERFECT FIRESTORM." AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT GETTING A MODELING SYSTEM IN PLACE SIMILAR TO THE SANTA ANA WINDS IN SAN DIEGO, LOOKING FOR RESOURCES TO DO THAT. I UNDERSTAND. BUT I THINK THAT IS ONE OF MY BIGGEST TAKE AWAYS FROM THE REPORT IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO GET THERE TO MAKE SURE OUR RESOURCES GO A BIT FURTHER. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE STRIKE TEAMS. THERE WERE 78 THAT WERE RECORDED BEFORE MIDNIGHT AD WHILE THERE WAS THREE MAJOR FIRES IN OUR AREA, ALL THREE FIRES WERE DISPATCHED BY CAL FIRE SAN HELLENA, THE SAME DISPATCH CENTER, THREE MAJOR FIRES RUNNING THROUGH MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES AND THEY JUST DID NOT HAVE THE STAFF TO PARSE THAT OUT.
WHILE WE'LL GET A CALL IN OUR DISPATCH CENTER FOR A FIRE, IT'S A CAL FIRE INCIDENT AND ALL REQUESTS GO THROUGH THEM. WHILE THEY WERE REQUESTED, IT TAKES TIME TO PROCESS. THAT IS ALMOST 400 FIRE ENGINES. IT TAKES TIME TO PROCESS. AND SOME ENGINES, SOME STRIKE TEAMS THAT WERE SATURDAY.ED TO OUR FIRE HAD TO DRIVE THROUGH THE ATLAS AND NUNS TO GET TO OUR FIRE AND THAT DOESN'T WORK UNDER THOSE SITUATIONS. THERE WAS ALSO INSTANCES WHERE DISPATCH CENTERS WERE CALLING IN BLIND, WHICH NERVE HAPPENS. ANY RESOURCE AVAILABLE WE NEED TO COME UP AND PUT YOU TO WORK. SO ONE STRIPE TAKE IS GOING A FIRE AND THEY GET PULLED UP AND GET SENT TO ANOTHER FIRE SO THERE WAS A LOST CONFUSION THAT NIGHT BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH FIRE IN OUR AREA. NOT TO MENTION MENDOCINO, AND OTHER COMMUNITIES. THERE WAS MANY FIRES THAT NIGHT, AND REDWOOD VALLEY DIDN'T GET ANY RESOURCES SENT TO THEM; RIGHT? THEY WERE ON THEIR OWN. WHILE WE DID GT SME RESOURCES COMING IN WE HAD SOME SHOW UP, NOT THE FULL COMPLIMENT OF, IT WAS A SLOW TRICKLE AND IT WAS PAINFUL AND WE HAVE THE BEST MUTUAL AID SYSTEM IN THE WORLD.
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
>> WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF KICKING OFF THE COMMUNITYWIDE FIRE PROTECTION PLAN AND THE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE PART OF THAT SIRENS TO US ARE A LITTLE BIT OF A KNEE-JERK REACTION AND THERE WERE GREAT TO BE DESIGNED OUTSIDE AND YOU HEAR THE SIREN AND GO IN YOUR HOUSE. IT'S FOR BOMBING. WE USE THEM FOR VOLUNTEERS AND SO ON A QUIET DAY YOU CAN HEAR IT IN SANTA ROSA ON A QUIET DAY. KENWOOD USES IT TO CALL THEIR VOLUNTEERS IN; RIGHT? SO THERE ARE SOME AGENCIES THAT STILL USE THEM. THEY DO NOT WORK WELL WHEN THERE ARE HIGH WINDS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN YOUR HOUSE IS CLOSED UP, WHERE ON TOP OF THAT YOU ARE HEARD OF HEARING. THOSE JUST AREN'T EFFECTIVE WAYS TO COMMUNICATE WITH RESIDENTS THEY ARE GREAT FOR MANY MY OPINION IN FITCH MOUNTAIN THERE IS ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT AND YOU KNOW WHAT THESIPER IS OR LIVE ON COAST AND THERE IS A TSUNAMI AND YOU HEAR THE SIREN, GET TO HIGH GROUND.
THE WAY WE'RE APPROACHING OUR FIRE SEASON SINCE LAST YEAR, WE HAVE MULTIPLE FIRE CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE UP. THERE'S, I THINK, 15 OR 18 UP RIGHT NOW. LAST YEAR THERE WAS 6-8-10 DEPENDING ON WHAT PART OF THE SEASON YOU ARE IN. WE HAVE A MEDIA BOARD IN OUR DISPATCH SOUTHCENTER WITH ALL THE FIRE CAMERAS DURING THE SEASON. SO IF SOMEBODY CALLS IN A FIRE WE CAN TRAIN THE CAMERA THAT WE SEE SMOKE AND TRIANGLIATE WHERE IT IS AND YOU ARE ABLE TO PINPOINT WITH BETTER ACCURACY. SANTA ROSA WAS EXTREMELY BUSY BEFORE THE TUBBS FIRE EVEN STARTED. WE HAD MANY FIRES IN OUR COMMUNITY, MULTI-ALARM FIRES. SO WHEN THAT FIRE HIT US, THE TUBBS STARTED AT 9:45 AND WE HD MANY COMMUNITIES HELPING US FIGHT FIRES.
SO IT WAS VERY — THE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS JUST WAS NOT THERE AND WE NEED TO BE BETTER AT THAT. >> I THINK ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS END UP BEING INTEGRATED AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT LIFELINE ROUTES AND EVACUATION CENTERS AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS. I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT COMING THROUGH AND THAT IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PROCESS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN INTEGRATED SYSTEM TO HELP PEOPLE. THERE HAVE BEEN EXAMPLES OF COMMUNITIES THAT REALLY RECENTLY REALLY PRACTICED REALLY HARD AT EVACUATION AND BECAUSE IT WASN'T AN INTEGRATED MODEL AND THEY DID IT BY THEMSELVES RESULT WAS FRANKLY DISASTER. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT SOLUTIONS AND HOW WE'RE APPLYING THOSE SOLUTIONS. AND THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF EFFORT TRYING TO BUILD THIS PLATFORM AROUND A JPA TO GET TO COMMON VOCABULARY AND COMMON UNDERSTANDING.
BECAUSE WE CAN ACTUALLY CAUSE MORE DAMAGE IF WE DO THINGS BY OURSELVES IF WE'RE NOT WORKING TOGETHER. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE BIG LESSONS THAT GETS REPEATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. A SOLUTION HAS TO BE A SOLUTION THAT IS INTEGRATED AND SUPPORTED REGIONALLY. AND THAT IS WHY THESE ARE VERY, VERY COMPLEX CONVERSATIONS, AND CONVERSATIONS THAT I DON'T THINK — I HAVE TO COMPLIMENT OF THE COUNCIL ON. THE WILLINGNESS TO GET INTO THE REGIONAL CONVERSATIONS AND TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR STATE AND FEDERAL ELECTIVES. I CAN'T DIMINISH THE FACT THAT THIS COMMUNITY ACTUALLY GOT CERTAIN THINGS PUT INTO THE RE-AUTHORIZATION BILL FOR THE RECENT FEDERAL REGISTER. THE WORK THAT IS BEING GLOSSED OVER JUST A LITTLE BIT IN THIS REPORT, BECAUSE YOU HAD A FULLER REPORT ABOUT FOUNTAIN GROVE AND THE WORK DONE WITH THE WATER QUALITY ISSUE HAS CHANGED THE EPA PROCESSES.
AND THIS TEAM YOUR STAFF TEAM HAS ACTUALLY GONE OUT AND PROVIDED SUPPORT TO OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS. NOT JUST TO SUPPORT THOSE COMMUNITIES, BUT HOW DO WE GET TO THAT COMMON LANGUAGE STATEWIDE? AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE SOMEPLACES WHERE WE WOULD LIKE THE STATE TO ACTUALLY BE MORE DIRECT, PRESENT LESS OPTIONS FOR FOLKS, AND SOMETIMES WE GET PUSH-BACK THAT WELL EVERY COMMUNITY IS SPECIAL.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT, BUT WE ALSO BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE COMMON LANGUAGE ACROSS THE REGION AND ACROSS THE STATE. AND THAT IS AN IMPERATIVE AND THAT COMES FROM THIS EXPERIENCE. >> AND I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S A GREAT SEGWAY. LAST THING AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES, MR. CITY MANAGER I WILL READ A PRAGRAPH TO YOU AND JUST HOPING YOU CAN COMMENT OR DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT? RECOVERY IS MOVING FORWARD, BUT SANTA ROSA COULD BENEFIT FROM FORMAL PRE- AND POST–DISASTER RECOVERY PLANS TO HELP COORDINATE THE LONG TERM RECOVERY EFFORT AND ADDITIONALLY MOST OF THE RECOVERY EFFORT IS CARRIED OUT BY CURRENT CITY STAFF, THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS METHODOLOGY IT OFTEN TIMES DOUBLES THE WORKLOAD AND CONTRIBUTES TO POTENTIAL EMPLOYEE BURNOUT. NOW I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HW INCREDIBLE OUR STAFF HAS BEEN AND WE TALKED QUITE A LOT ABOUT TRYING TO PREVENT BURNOUT. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LONG-TERM RECOVERY PLAN? AND ANY STEPS WE MIGHT BE TAKING TO TRY TO PREVENT BURNOUT? >> WE'RE ALWAYS TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY CONTRACTED FOR SERVICE WHERE WE CAN. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE'RE WORKING WITH ERNST AND YOUNG AND WITT O'BRIEN AND HAGGERTY TO EXPAND CAPS AND BUREAU TO EXPAND STAFF CAPACITY. THERE'S A MUCH RESPECT TO CHARLIE AND HIS TEAM THE THEORY THAT SOMETIMES YOU GO OUT AND HIRE AN ADDITIONAL WORKFORCE AND IN THE SAME REPORT THEY POINTED OUT THERE IS SOME CHALLENGE S AROUND THAT ABOUT ATTRACTING AND RETAINING TALENT IN THIS LOCALITY. I WOULD SAY PART OF THE SUGGESTION IN THE RECOVERY IS THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH IT AND WE'RE NOT CREATING ANOTHER DIVISION TO CREATE ANOTHER SILO WITHIN AN ORGANIZATION. AND AGAIN, I THINK TO POINT TO A VISIONING EXERCISE THAT IS GOING ON AND THAT VISIONING EXERCISE CAME OUT OF THIS EVENT AND THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION HAS OPPORTUNITIED US AND THIS DISCREET CONVERSATION WE'RE GOING TO GET IN OUR DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN, WHICH IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY WE REALIZE HOW WE INTERPRET OUR COMMUNITY.
COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. SO AAIN, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MET A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. THERE'S NO PERFECT SOLUTION. AND WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT LONG-TERM OR SHORT-TERM LIABILITIES YOU CAN TAKE ON IN ANY ONE STRETCH O PERIOD OF TIME. BUT I THINK IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE, BUT WE TRY TO TAKE THIS UNDER CONSIDERATION ALL TE TIME. HOW MUCH WE'RE ASKING OF STAFF? I SEE IT EVERY DAY, BUT I WOULD SAY PART OF THE SUCCESS AND WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO, HAS BEEN THAT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCED IT IN AND WORKED THROUGH IT, ARE ACTUALLY MANAGING THE PROCESS DURING THIS TRANSITIONAL PERIOD. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. >> MR. TIBBETTS. >> STEP UP HERE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT — YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO — THIS IS BEING DONE NOW IN SACRAMENTO AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY — >> MY QUESTION, THE JPA HAS ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF OUT THERE IN THE BACK AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT CONCRETE SEPS ARE BEING TAKEN TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THAT? BECAUSE IT ALMOST SEEMS THAT WE NEED TO GET THAT GOING SOONER THAN — >> SO LIKE ANYTHING, THERE ARE LOTS OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS CONVERSATION.
>> SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO GET THAT GOING. >> THERE'S A NEED TO TALK TO ANOTHER INCORPORATED CITIES AND WE'RE IN A PROCESS, COUNCIL MEMBER, ABOUT DOING THAT. AND WE ARE HELPING — WE'RE HELPING THAT PROCESS, BUT IT IS A MULTI- JURISDICTIONAL CONVERSATION. I'M HOPEFUL THAT YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING AROUND THAT THIS SUMMER. THE LEGAL TEAM HAS ACTUALLY DELIVERED ME A FIRST DRAFT OF THAT DOCUMENT. >> OKAY. >> BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO SOLELY. IT'S GOING TO BE THE OTHER CITIES, AND THE COUNTY IN THAT JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY.
>> SO ARE WE STILL MOVING AHEAD WITH A CITYWIDE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AND THEN GOING TO FOLD THAT INTO A REGIONAL EFFORT THAT WILL HAPPEN SUBSEQUENT TO WHAT WE DO? >> WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON A VEGETATION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, AS WELL AS WEED ABATEMENT. TWO SEPARATE THINGS. IF THE JPA, WHEN IT COMES THROUGH, IT WILL FOLD RIGHT INTO THAT. >> OKAY. >> WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND PART OF THAT IS REACHING OUT, EDUCATING, PROVIDING THOSE INSPECTIONS, AND MAKING SURE WE ALL — ; RIGHT? ? PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO MAKE IT AS SAFE AS WE CAN. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU GUYS. >> MS. COMBS. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HIGHLIGHTING AT ALL LEVELS OUR STAFF HAS BEEN AMAZING WATER DEPARTMENTS, BUS DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T EXPECT TO BE FIRST-RESPONDERS WE'RE BEHAVING AS FIRST-RESPONDERS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING THAT.
I ALSO APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING THE ACTIONS OF NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I THINK WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER, SOME REMARKABLE WORK DONE BY NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. WITH THAT IN MIND, LOOKING AT, FOR EXAMPLE, 1A ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS LIST FROM THE CHIEF ACTIVATING THE EOC SOONER, PERHAPS HAVING IT BE WARM. WHEN WE HAVE A WIND FROM THE NORTHEAST WITH LOW HUMIDITY, YOU KNOW? TO ESTABLISH SPECIFIC MORE DISCRETE — NOT EVERY RED-FLAG, BUT EVEN MORE RED-FLAG SITUATION.
BECAUSE THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT'S THE VERY DRY HIGH WIND FROM NORTHEAST THAT GETS US INTO BIG TROUBLE. IF WE HAVE THAT, IS THERE A DISCUSSION GING ON WHERE WE WOULD NOTIFY OUR NEIGHBORHOODS? SO THAT PEOPLE CAN MAKE A DECISION? FOR EXAMPLE, TO EVACUATE EARLY? OR TO HAVE THEIR RADIO ON? OR TO KEEP THEIR PHONE ON THAT NIGHT? TO BE PREPARED FOR A NOTICE TO COME? I HAVE DRIVEN THROUGH REGIONS WHERE I'VE — THERE'S BEN A SIGN THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, RED, YELLOW, GREEN, YOU SEE THE FIRE WARNING SIGN AS YOU ARE DRIVING ALONG. YOU RECEIVE A REALLY CLEAR NOTICE AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A WHOLE LOT OF SIREN INFRASTRUCTURE. HAVE WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVING THIS KIND OF SIGN AVAILABLE IN AREAS THAT NEED TO KNOW THAT THE EOC IS NOW AT A WARM STATE? SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS KNOW? >> YES, WE ED CREATING SIGN WHETHER OR NOT THE EOC IS IN A WARM STATE? I WILL TELL THAT YOU CHIEF WESTROPE AND MYSELF SPENT THE DAY AT SAN JOSÉ FOR FIRE WEATHER BEHAVIOR DAY, IF YOU WILL, WITH A BUNCH OF SCIENTISTS AND WHAT WE KEEP HEARING WE HEAR ABOUT THE TUBS FIRE AND WE LIVED IT AND WE UNDERSTAND IT AND WE NEED PREDICTIVE MODELS.
THERE IS A LOOT OF GOOD WORK AROUND THAT, BUT A RED-FLAG, THERE IS SOME VERSIONS OF A RED-FLAG; RIGHT? SO WE NEED A PURPLE OR BLACK FLAG AND THOSE ARE DATES THAT THE EOC GETS WARMED UP. WE'RE PUSHING OUT INFORMATION ALL TITLE, BUT TO MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THESE ARE THE 1% CONDITIONS AND PAY ATTENTION AND THESE ARE THE RADIO STATION TO LISTEN TO. CREWS ARE OUT TALKING TO RESIDENTS AND WE'RE THINKING THIS WAY AND THIS IS ALL PART OF THE COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PAN BECAUSE WE NEED INPUT HOW DO THE CITIZENS WANT TO BE NOTIFIED? >> MOSTLY JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING THAT PARTICULAR CONVERSATION. BECAUSE I'M NOW FOLLOWING MYSELF THE WIND DIRECTION AND THE HUMIDITY, BECAUSE I FIGURED THAT OUT. SO HAVE YOU. SO NOW WHEN THE WIND DIRECTION AND THE HUMIDITY IS IN A CERTAIN WAY, I BEHAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY AND I WOULD HOPE MY NEIGHBORS WOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO FOLLOW THOSE DETAILS ABOUT WIND DIRECTION AND HUMIDITY THEMSELVES JUST TO RECEIVE A NOTICE.
SO I'M RALLY — WHEN I LOOK AT THE CRITICAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU HAVE LISTED ON PAGE 9, AND I SEE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER COORDINATION/COMMUNICATION. I MAY NOT BE READING IT QUITE RIGHT, BUT I KEEP HEARING "INTERNAL COORDINATION AND COMMUNICATION." AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT BECOMES EXTERNAL COORDINATION/COMMUNICATION WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. >> IT IS GOING TO BE — WE ARE ALWAYS EXTERNALLY-FACED. SO IF THAT IS WHAT THE PERCEPTION, THAT IS EXACTLY THE FEEDBACK THAT WE NEED TODAY.
BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY WE'RE TALKING INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL. ONE OF THE CHIEF CHALLENGES IN THIS INCIDENT IS BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY HAD STOOD UP A CALL CENTER TO HANDLE ISSUES. THAT BECAME A HUGE ISSUE JUST IN COMMUNICATIONS, BECAUSE WE HAD COMPETING COMMUNICATION MESSAGES, CONFUSING COMMUNICATION MESSAGES, AND YOU SEE EVEN THAT IS BEING ADDRESSED TO TE INITIATIVE THAT THE SONOMA COUNTY — EXCUSE ME — UNITED WAY OF WINE COUNTRY HAS TAKEN OVER THE 211 SYSTEM AND I WILL EXPECT THAT WE'LL BE BACK IN NOT THIS BUDGET CYCLE, BUT IN A FUTURE BUDGET CYCLE AND HAVING ASKING YO ALL TO BE INVESTORS IN THAT MODEL.
THAT IS A KEY TO GET CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION BRIEFING AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS WOULD BE A RELIABLE PLACE FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF IT'S ONE CENTER THAT IS COMING BACK. WITH MULTIPLE LANGUAGES ABLE TO BE FIELDED. AND TAKING A LOT OF PRESSURE OFF OUR OF 911 DISPATCH. >> I LOVED HOW THAT WORKED IN SAN DIEGO AND I HOPE WE'RE LOOKING THE A SIMILAR? >> WE ARE. AND I WANT TO MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT IS PART OF THIS. IT'S NOT JUST INTERNAL-FACING, BUT EXTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE PREPARED NOT JUST FOR FIRE EVENTEDS, BUT ALL HAZARDISTS AND THIS SUMMER WE'RE DOING A SERIES OF COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS FUNDED BY THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION AS ONE OF THE LEAD PARTICIPANT GOES THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS TO HELP PEOPLE BE BETTER PREPARED. BUT WE NEED PARTNERSHIP JUST LIKE DURING THE FIRESTORM, WHERE PEOPLE HELPED NEIGHBORHOODS. COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE TO BE PREPARED. THEY HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT, AND WE'RE NOT GOING — I THINK IT'S LESS THAN 3% OF OUR POPULATION IS FIRST RESPONDERS. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO REACH EVERYBODY.
NIGHBORS HAVE TO HELP NEIGHBORS. YOU CAN'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS. WE NEED YOU TO GO OUT AND KNOCK ON DOORS AND WE NEED YOU TO ASSIST DURING AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. THAT IS ONE OF THE BIG LESSON HERE'S IS THAT NEIGHBORS – IT WASN'T JUST THE FIRST RESPONDERS. IT WAS NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS. >> SO FOLLOWING-UP WHICH YOU HAVE SEGWAYS ME BEAUTIFULLY TO MY NEXT QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE OF SUPPORT OF OR NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS PROGRAM, THE ORIGINAL ONE THAT WE HAD WAS CALLED "COPE." AND I'M NOT MARRIED TO THE CONCEPT OF COPE, BUT CERT OR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION.
I HAVE MOVED NOW WITHIN SANTA ROSA THREE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS EACH OF WHICH HAD VERY GOOD AND EFFECTIVE COPE PROGRAMS, INCLUDING MY NEW ONE, WHICH I WAS SURPRISED WHEN MY NEIGHBORHOOD CAME OVER AND KNOCKED ON MY DOOR AND SAID YOU ARE NEW TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I NEED YUR COPE INFORMATION. GREAT, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS STILL GOING HERE. SO I'M AWARE THAT WE ARE NOT STAFFED IN A WAY THAT MAKES US ABLE TO DO COPE THE WAY IT COULD BE DONE.
AND EVEN IF WE CHOOSE ANOTHER MECHANISM, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA WIL WE ABOUT HAVING A BUDGET CONVERSATION ABOUT THE COPE SYSTEM? IS IT COMING FORWARD TO US SO THAT WE CAN REINVIGORATED AND ENERGIZE IT? AND I THINK NOW IS THE TIME — EXCUSE THE ANALOGY, TRYING TO WHILE THE IRON IS HOT. >> WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A CONVERSATION IN BUDGET. THE COUNTY HAS ACTUALLY BUDGETED FOR A POSITION. WE'LL BE BRINGING A SIMILAR BUDGET POSITION BACK FOR CONSIDERATION. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THERE MAY BE AS REGIONAL MODEL GAINS STRENGTHEN TO HAVE SYNERGY THAT IN ALL THE EXERCISES THAT WE'RE USING THE SAME LANGUAGE ACROSS THE COUNTY. SO YOU ARE GOING TO SEE SMETHINGS IN THE BUDGET THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY REFERENCED IN HERE AD STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND EDUCATION IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE BUDGETARY ITEMS.
>> OKAY. IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE SECTION 8A ON THE LIST FROM THE CHIEF? I'M LOOKING AT 8A, AND THEN AT 10B. >> I THINK IT'S — 10A AND 10B ARE GOING TO COVER THAT TOPIC. >> OKAY. AND THE OTHER ONE I WANTED TO CHECK WAS 13. 13B. WHICH IS THE INVENTORY OF ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT SUPPORT EMERGENCY PREPAREDSNESS. THOSE SEEM TO AL BE LINKED IN TERMS OF COPE ACTIVITY OR RELATED TO EMERGENCY PREPAREDSNESS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. >> I THINK 13B IS MORE DIRECTLY RESPONDING TO THE VOLUNTEERS AFTER DISASTER. BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT TAT IS ANOTHER MISNOMER THAT I THINK EVEN VOAD WOULD RECOGNIZE.
THAT OGANIZATION NEEDS TO BE FUNCTIONING EVEN NOT AFTER DISASTER, BUT AS A CONTINUOUS PROCESS. >> YES. >> AND SO WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN THAT. THAT IS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE 211 SYSTEM CAN STRENGTHEN. WE DO NEED TO WORK ON THAT, BUT ICOULD SAY THAT COULD FALL UNDER THAT CONVERSATION, BUT WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD A POSITION THAT — >> THANK YOU. >> THAT WULD BE DOING SOME OF THAT WORK. BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUS POSSIBLE FOR THE EOC MANAGER TO DO THAT AND DO THE EOC MANAGER'S JOB. >> SO TO SUM UP WHERE I WAS HEADED, THE THREE KEY POINTS OF COMMUNICATION, TRAINING AND EXERCISES, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT LIMITED TO INTERNAL, BUT ARE OUTWARD-FACING AND REALLY INVOLVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND LASTLY, THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN EVER STAFF-UP ENOUGH OR RESOURCE ENOUGH FOR THIS KIND OF FIRE. IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE TO BE REASONABLE TO HAVE ON STAFF THE PERSONNEL AND THE RESOURCES OF OUR OWN TO FIGHT A PEAK FIRE EVERY 30 YEARS OR EVERY TEN YEARS.
HOW DO WE — I'M HEARING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS REGIONALLY, BUT WHAT'S THE KIND OF MODEL THAT WE WOULD HAVE FOR HAVING THE RESOURCE STOODUP AND AVAILABLE FOR PEAK FIRE SEASONS WITHIN THE CNTEXT OF THE REGION OR THE STATE? I'M NOT REALLY GETTING HOW YOU DO THAT? AND I'M SORRY, MAYBE IS IT HERE? >> I DON'T THINK IT'S HERE. I THINK IT'S AN ONGOING CONVERSATION. I THINK. >> WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE ON-CALL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS. >> WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO EITHER. SO WE'RE IN THIS BEHIND. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE JPA MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT IS A COMMITMENT TO BE ORGANIZED AS A REGION, AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT TO GET INVESTMENT DOLLARS FROM THE OUTSIDE? BECAUSE FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ACCESSING SOME OF THE RESOURCES TAT OTHER PLACES DO. BASED ON POPULATION DENSITY, BASED ON RISK THAT HOMELAND SECURITY MIGHT BE APPLIED TO THOSE LOCATIONS? WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING, FRANKLY, TO SACRAMENTO, TO SAY WE'RE STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT WILL HELP MITIGATE YOUR RISKS AND RESPONSE IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT TOOLS ON THE GROUND AND THE RIGHT RESOURCES.
SO IT IS GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION BOTH ON STATE-LEVEL — THERE POTENTIALLY WOULD BE A CONVERSATION ON THE LOCAL-LEVEL. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO INVEST IN, COUNTY? AND CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY? TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING ENOUGH RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES? BUT WE NEED A BASELINE UNDERSTANDING. >> SUFFICIENT MITIGATION AS WE — >> ABSOLUTELY. >> AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT THAT. BUT I DO APPRECIATE. >> YES. >> THE FIRST ONE MAY BE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT AND HOW WE'RE CONSTRUCTED IN THE FIRE HAZARD AREAS IS ANOTHER BIG ONE TO TALK ABOUT AND I HOPE WE INCLUDE THAT UNDER "MITIGATION." >> I'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND I BELIEVE THE DELIVERABLE BY THE FIRE CODE BUILDING DIVISION. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AS A SIDE NOTE DURING THE FIRE DISAST HE I WAS RECEIVING A NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS FROM FOLKS AND IN ORDER TO GET AN ANSWER, I CALLED THE FIRE CHIEF, WHO VERY POLITELY EXPLAINED HE WAS BUSY AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER ROUTES OF COMMUNICATION.
BECAUSE HE SHOULDN'T HVE BEEN ANSWERING A PHONE TO ME AND I APPRECIATE THAT HE TRIED. THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> MR. VICE-MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. JST REALLY FAST AND JUST LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUE I WAS STRUCK BY AND MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT DOCUMENT FOR IT TO BEGIN WITH AND FEEL FREE TO SAY THAT. I WAS STRUCK BY HOW LITTLE DISCUSSION THERE WAS IN HERE OF COORDINATION WITH PRIVATE SECTOR AND NONPROFIT ENTITIES AS WELL? IN PARTICULAR PG&E, RED CROSS, OUR HOSPITALS, OUR UTILITY PROVIDERS, COMCAST, AT&T, VERIZON. THOSE ALSO SEEM LIKE VERY CRITICAL CONNECTIONS FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS OPERATING TOGETHER. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THERE WAS NOT MORE DISCUSSION OF THAT? OR WHAT NEXT STEPS WE MIGHT PURSUE ON THAT FRONT? >> A LATE ADDED SCOPE TO THE PROJECT WE HAVE BEN MEETING WITH ALL THEVOAD MEMBERS AND NGOS AND IDENTIFYING THEIR — WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IN TERMS OF WORKING? THAT WILL BE IN A SUPPLEMENT TO THIS REPORT.
TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE — I CAN'T DISAGREE AT ALL. I TOTALLY AGREE THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT OWN THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UTILITIS AND SO FORTH WORK VERY OFTEN ON EFFORTS AFTER DISASTER EVENTS. THAT IS IMPORTANT AS WELL, AND OUR FOCUS AND SCOPE HERE WAS SPECIFICALLY ON THE CITY. BUT I DON'T DISAGREE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> AND I WOULD ONLY ADD, COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST FRUSTRATING THINGS WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE AFTER-ACTIONS THAT COME OUT, TYPICALLY THE STATE TALKS TO THE STATE. THE FEDS TALK TO THE FEDS. I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE ENERGY, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE ALL GOING TO ADDRESS — IT'S ALREADY A STRUGGLE SOMETIMES TO GET THE ATTENTION OF THE STATE, AD THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE COUNTY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND TO HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE I BELIEVE IS A CHALLENGE TO BE DELIVERED TO THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT THEY SHOULD BE TRYING TO REGIONALIZE AND REALLY LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND NOT HAVE THAT FALL BACK FULLY ON THE MUNICIPALITY.
THERE IS SOME REAL STRUGGLE THOUGH IN GETTING THOSE AGENCIES TYPICALLY THE STATE TALKS TO ITSELF, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TALKS TO ITSELF — HOW DID WE DO; RIGHT? THEY DON'T — THEY HAVEN'T SET UP REAL FORMAL MECHANISMS ESPECIALLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ABOUT HOW TO GET TOGETHER AND COMPARE AFTER-ACTIONS, OR WHAT IS MISSING IN THAT CONVERSATION? SO I THINK TO YOUR POINT IS ALWAYS BECOMES WHERE DO WE STOP THIS CONVERSATION AND FRANKLY WE COULD GO ON IN ANALYSES, IN A WHOLE OTHER SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT TO CHARLIE'S POINT, WE DID RECOGNIZE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO CAPTURE, AND WE HAVE ASKED FOR SOME SUBSEQUENT WORK ON THAT FRONT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. >> I CAN ADDRESS THE TWO SPECIFIC AGENCIES YU TALKED ABOUT. SO WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS. AND WE COORDINATE WITH THEM AND WORK WITH THEM ALL THE TIME. ONE CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN MADE SINCE THE FIRE IS THEY ARE ACTUALLY ON OUR EOC NOTIFICATION AND ANY TIME WE ACTIVATE, THE AMERICAN RED CROSS COORDINATOR IS CALLED IMMEDIATELY AT LEAST TO CHECK IN WITH ME AND SEE — NOT THAT WE HAD A PROBLEM THAT NIGHT OPENING SHELTERS, BUT TO SEE I WE NEED THEIR ASSISTANCE IMMEDIATELY? WE ALSO MADE A SPACE FOR THEM TO BE IMBEDED IN OUR EOC AND ADDITIONALLY, ON A SPECTRUM OF ISSUES, CONVERSATIONS WITH PG&E ABOUT MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS COMMUNITY'S MIND.
>> NEIL CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? >> I'M NEIL BRAGMAN, THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS COORDINATOR FR THE CITY OF SAN JOSÉ. SANTA ROSA. >> I'M KEENLY AWARE THAT I'M THE ONLY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL THAT DIDN'T WEATHER THIS FIRESTORM WITH ALL OF YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY FROM A CONSTITUENT PERSPECTIVE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU D AND THAT IT WAS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IT WAS OUR NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR OUTREACH THAT DID SAVE MY HOME AND MY FAMILY. I HAVE A AREA OF CONCERN GOING FORWARD THE NIGHT OF THE FIRE I DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT IT UNTIL HOURS LATER THAT MY MOM CALLED HOURS AND HOURS LATER AND I DON'T HAVE A LANDLINE AND DOESN'T KEEP THEIR CELL PHONE ON AT NIGHT AND WOULD HAVE BEEN IN A REALLY SCARY SITUATION.
WHEN I GOT THAT CALL FINALLY, I JUMPED OVER NEIGHBORS' FENCES AND WOKE OTHER PEOPLE UP. SO I KNOW THERE ARE REALLY GOOD REASONS THAT SIRENS MAY NOT WORK. BUT THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, A CHALLENGE ALL OF US TO CONSIDER HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE TRADITIONAL METHODS OF BEING CONTACTED. IF A SIREN HAD GONE OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT I WOULD HAVE LEAST TURNED ON MY PHONE OR TURNED ON THE RADIO OR SOMETHING.
>> YES, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WHENEVER THAT PHONE RING IT'S NEVER GOOD; RIGHT? AT NIGHT-TIME. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO HAS A CELL PHONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SLEEP IT WITH NEXT TO YOUR HEAD, BUT KEEP IN YOUR ROOM AND CHARGE IT BEFORE YOU GO TO BED BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE CHARGE IN THE KITCHEN AND IT'S SILENT; RIGHT? THAT DOES NOT HELP US.
THE WAY COMMUNITIES COMMUNICATE TODAY IS LARGELY A CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US. SO WE HAVE TO EMPLOY MULTIPLE WAYS OF COMMUNICATING AND TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE ON THAT NIGHT WE LOST 70 SOMETHING TOWERSES IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF HOURS THAT IMPACTED THE STATE YOUR NAME GREATLY AS WELL. >> WHICH MEANS IF THAT WERE THE CASE, IT WOULDN'T HAVE WORKED ANYWAY. THIS IS GETTING PRETTY PERSONAL, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A BABY SLEEPING YOU DON'T LEAVE THE PHONE ON VIBRATE. I UNDERSTAND THE GREATER POINT ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF PEOPLE WHO JUST AREN'T GOING TO DO THAT AND WE NEED TO BE CREATIVE. >> THAT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE TO NOTIFY EVERYONE AND WE HEAR THAT AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN. >> THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ON PAGE 11 OF THE REPORT, THERE'S SOME COMMENTS AND YOU MIGHT HAVE COVERED THIS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CAREFUL CONSIDERATION IS GIVEN TO DEPARTMENT COMMITMENTS FOR OUT OF COUNTY ASSIGNMENTS. IS THAT RELATED TO MUTUAL AID CALLS? BECAUSE I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT SAY WE'RE ON RED-FLAG WARNING WE NEED ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL HERE, BUT SOMETHING IS HITTING MARIN COUNTY AND LAKE COUNTY? CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT MEANS TO US? >> WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN HE UPSTAFF, IT'S FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL. SO IF OUR NEIGHBORS NEED HELP, WE SEND HELP AND WHEN WE NEED HELP, THEY SEND HELP. I WILL TELL YOU IF WE'RE NOT ON FIRE AND ANOTHER COMMUNITY, IS WE'LL SEND THOSE RESOURCE OUT TO FIGHT FIRES. SO WHEN WE SECOND A RESOURCE OUT WE ALWAYS BACK FILL, SO THE CITY IS ALWAYS WHOLE. THE NIGHT OF THE FIRES EVERYONE WAS IN AND ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT WAS TAPPED.
SO PEOPLE WERE IN PICKUPS AND VANS, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON. SO WE TYPICALLY — THE STATION GETS STAFFED BACK UP. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YES, ANYTHING ELSE? TALKING ABOUT THE [TPO-EFPB/]S BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE ARE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AND YOUR PHONE WENT LOUD OBNOXIOUS SOUND THERE WAS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. IS THAT THE EMERGENCY ALERT. >> THAT IS FOR PULSE POINT AND ACT VATES FOR ANYBODY — I HAVE IT ON MY PHONE. IF THERE'S CPR NEEDED WITHIN A QUARTER MILE, MY PHONE WILL ACTIVATE LETTING ME KNOW. SO IF I'M CLOSE BY, I CAN HELP. IT ALSO TELLS ME IF THIS IS AEDS ROUND TO SHOCK PEOPLE AND IT'S THE SAME TECHNOLOGY WE DIDN'T USE IN OCTOBER, THE WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERT WE USE ONE — EXCUSE THIN. WIRELESS – ME, WIRELESS IS AN OPT-OUT.
SO EVERYONE HAS IT ON THEIR PHONE, UNLESS YOU GO IN THERE AND TURN IT OFF. SOE KO ALERT I AN OPT-IN, MEAN YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR IT AND WHEN WE SEND OUT AN EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION, IT WILL DO THAT TO YOUR PHONE AND ACTIVATE AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. >> I KNOW WE'RE AD[SRO-EBLGT/]ING IN D.C. IS TO GET THE PRIVATE CARRIERS TO PARTICIPATE. CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE WHERE W'RE WITH THAT EFFORT? >> SO WHAT WE FOUND, THE COUNTY DID SOME TESTS LAST YEAR THAT WE WERE PART OF IT AND WE TESTED COMMUNITY OF ROSELAND AND I THINK BELIEVE KENWOOD AND THE RISUSSIAN RIVER AREA, FIVE AREAS THAT THE COUNTY TESTED AND WE WERE PART OF THAT AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WHETHER YOU HAD AT&T OR VERIZON, AND YOU WERE IN THE SAME ROOM, ONE PHONE WOULD GO OFF AND THE OTHER WOULDN'T.
AND PART O THAT WAS THE WAY IT WAS — THE SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED. HOW YOU CREATE A POLYGON OR THE AREA YOU WANT NOTIFY? IF YOUR CELL TOWER IS OUTSIDE OF THAT POLYGON, IT MIGHT NOT ACTIVATE, DEPENDING ON THE CARRIER. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FCC AND THE STATE WITH THE METINGS WITH STATE ALL THE TIME. EVERYONE NEEDS TO B ON THE SAME PAGE. IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, EVERY TOWER NEEDS TO BE ABLE THE MESSAGE, NO MATTER WHO THE CARRIER IS? BECAUSE IT'S A MATTER OF LIFE-AND-DEATH. IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY. AND SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. IT'S — I WON'T SAY WE'RE THERE YET, BUT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN AND WE'RE WORKING WITH IS ABOUT, AS MUCH AS I CAN UPDATE.
IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME, BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WHEN YOU TALK TO THE FCC OR OTHER FOLKS THEY LOOK AT ME, TOO, LIKE THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT, BUT THERE IS SO MANY VARIABLES IN THE TECHNOLOGY, IT'S DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT, BUT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS IT. >> WITH OUR REGIONAL APPROACH WITH THE OTHER FIRE SERVICES, IS THIS A REGIONAL ISSUE THAT IS BEING ADDRESSED REGIONALLY? S OR IS IT JUST THE SANTA ROSA FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS AN INTEREST? >> NO, NO, THIS A REGIONAL REPORT. >> I READ IN REPORT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT RED-FLAGS AT EACH OF THE FIRE STATIONS. SO ARE THEY BEING DEPLOYED AND IF SO, WHAT IS THE TAKEAWAY FOR RESIDENTS THAT MAY SEE AS I'M DRIVING DOWN COFFEY LANE AND SEE THE RED-FLAG AND WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION. >> OANY TIME YOU SE A RED-FLAG ON THE POLE AT THE FIRE STATION, MEANS LOW HUMIDITY AND HIGH WINDS AND COMBINATION OF BOTH TO ALERT PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION.
AS COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS SAID, SHE LOOKS AT WEATHER DIFFERENTLY NOW AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT TO THE CITIZENS OF SANTA ROSA AND QUITE FRANKLY THAT'S A COUNTYWIDE SYSTEM. SO THEY BOUGHT ALL THE FLAGS FOR ALL THE STATIONS AND EVERYONE ON THOSE RED-FLAG DAYS WOULD RAISE THEM AND THERE WOULD BE MESSAGING ON ALL OF OUR WEBSITES THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS AND WHY AND WHEN YOU WILL SEE IT. >> GREAT. OKAY. TALKING ABOUT SIRENS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING NOT THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT OTHER LW ENFORCEMENT MAY HAVE PURCHASED SIRENS ON THEIR VEHICLES WHICH SEEMED KIND OF CONFUSING AS WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR THIS REGIONAL APPROACH. A, DO YOU KNOW IS THAT THE CASE? AND B, IF ONE WERE T HEAR A POLICE SIREN, WHAT MESSAGE IS THAT? >> SO NAPA COUNTY DECIDED AFTER THE FIRE THEY WOULD USE THE HI LOW SIREN, WHICH IS NOT A — THAT HIGH-LOW SIREN IS TO ALERT OCCUPANTS THERE IS EVACUATIONS IN PROGRESS.
SONOMA COUNTY'S SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ALSO WANT THAT WAY AND I BELIEVE SANTA ROSA PD IS ALSO GOING TO EMPLOY THAT. SO WHEN YOU HEAR THE HIGH/LOW THAT IS TO SAY THERE IS AN EVACUATION ORDER IN PLACE AND TO GET OUT. WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, I AM NOT SURE, BUT THAT IS THE THOUGHT. IT'S MORE OF A REGIONAL — >> SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. WE HAVE APPLIED FOR SOME FUNDING FOR THAT PARTICULAR INITIATIVE. THE CHALLENGE AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS EVEN THOUGH THERE WS AN INTENT FROM SOME OF THE LW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT ONCE AGAIN, THE TECHNOLOGY MAY BE MORE CHALLENGING THAN THE DESIRED SOLUTION. SO I ACTUALLY — MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE UNLESS NEIL CAN CORRECT ME, THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY BEEN IMPLEMENTED YET? >> I'M NOT AWARE THAT SR PD HAS IMPLEMENTED HIGH/LOW SIRENS WHETHER THEY ARE ON A POLICE CAR OR FIXED LOCATION THEY ARE ALL OUTDOOR WARNING SYSTEM S THAT HAVE THE SAME ISSUE WITH WINDOWS NIGHT AND CLOSING THEM.
WE HAVE APPLIED FOR A GRANT FOR SOMETHING ELSE, THE NOAA RADIOS, NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ONES CAN BE USED IN OTHER SITUATIONS AS WELL AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TO BE ABLE TO EMPLOY THOSE AS A WAY TO WARN THE PUBLIC AND IF WE GET A GRANT AND DO A RADIO GIVEAWAY FOR THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS ALONG WITH THE OTHER SYSTEMS, SO CAL ALERT AND MORE EFFECTIVE WA OF PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES BEING ALERTED SOMETHING IS OCCURRING RATHER THAN OUTDOOR SYSTEM. >> MAYBE WHEN WE GET THE ANSWER TO FIND OUT WHAT IS HERE LOCALLY? BECAUSE I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. >> THAT IS ONE OF THE CONTINUES AD WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME BASELINE UNDERSTANDING HRE THERE IS PROGRESS THERE, BUT THERE IS STILL A WAYS TO GO IN THAT CONVERSATION. >> OKAY. THIS MAY BE MORE FOR YOU MR. CITY MANAGER, ON THE RECOVERY EFFORTS. KIND OF WAS TOUCHED ON FINDING 19 — THE LONG-TERM RECOVERY EFFORTS. I DIDN'T SEE ROCK SONOMA COUNTY MENTIONED HERE ANYWHERE, WHERE IT'S RELATED TO THE INDIVIDUAL RECOVERIES.
HOW DOES THAT INCORPORATE INTO THIS REPORT? AND ARE OUR ACTION PLANS OR IS THAT A SEPARATE CONVERSATION? >> WE EVER HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE VOAD TEAM AND THERE WILL BE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS TAT INCLUDES SOME OF THAT DOCUMENTATION. >> GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL BEFORE I GO TO COMMENTS? OKAY, FIRST CARD FROM DWAYNE DEWITT, FOLLOWED BY THOMAS ELS. >> HELLO MY NME IS DWAYNE DEWITT FROM ROSELAND IN SANTA ROSA,. THE DISTRICT HAD A FIRE SIREN THAT WORKED VERY WELL FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND EVERYONE WHO LIVED NEAR THE ROSELAND FIRE STATION ON BURBANK AVENUE KNEW WHAT THE SIREN WENT OFF THERE WAS A SERIOUS FIRE. SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, TECHNOLOGY CAME UP AND PEOPLE CONVINCED THEMSELVES THAT OH, WELL WE'LL DO SOMETHING NEWER AND BETTER. AND YET, I DO BELIEVE THAT SIRENS WHEN THE CMMUNITY IS EDUCATED THAT THAT SIREN GOES OFF LIKE OUT IN GRATON, WHERE THEIR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A NICE, BIG SIREN.
IT CAN BE USEFUL. AND IT CAN BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THE SIREN SYSTEM AS A BACKUP. AND I BELIEVE YOU COULD ACTUALLY GET FEDERAL FUNDING FOR IT UNDER WHAT USED TO BE CALLED CIVIL DEFENSE. THERE WAS A WHOLE THING WHEN WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE BOMBINGS FROM THE RUSSIANS AND WE HAD SHELTERS. WE HD ALARM SYSTEMS. WELL IT AL IN PLAY AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RECOGNIZED AND USEFUL. SO I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY PERHAPS WANT GOES WITH A DIFFERENT APPROACH, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WARNING SIRENS AND WELL-EDUCATED PUBLIC ABOUT THAT NOISE MEANS FIRE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU HAVE TO GET GOING WOULD BE QUITE HELPFUL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR EFFORTS. >> THANK YOU,, THOMAS ELS. >> HI. THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. IT WRKED ITS WAY UP SORT OF TO A HIGH-LEVEL DISCUSSION. PROJECT MANAGEMENT IS OFTEN WHERE YOU WORK UP TO A HIGH-LEVEL BACK TO A LOW-LEVEL, BACK TO A HIGH-LEVEL AND MARRIAGE OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN BETWEEN. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF — AND I'M NOT REALLY ABLE TO ADDRESS THE CONSULTANT. SO CHARLIE, I BELIEVE. IF THEY EVALUATED THE NEW BOOK "POINT PATROL." ABOUT VIEWPOINT AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAVED THEIR HOUSES? NINE PEOPLE AND A DOG, WHATEVER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DOG DID — I THINK THE DOG CARRIED WATER. I DON'T KNOW. AND HOW THEY SAVED THEIR VILLAGE AND WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM ONE OF THE NATIVES ALTHOUGH HE WAS FROM POINT ARENA SAID I THINK SEVEN OF THEIR HOMES BURNED INTO THAT VILLAGE. SO IT WASN'T LIKE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING HAPPEN. THEY SAVED A LOT OF HOUSES UP THERE IN REDWOOD VALLEY. AND THE WAY THEY DID IT WAS WITH VOLUNTEERS.
THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT PIECES OF EQUIPMENT AND THEY COULD USE THOSE. IT WAS SORT OF AD HOC, IF YOU WILL. AND I WOULD ALSO — AND ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT ABOUT THAT, IT'S IMPERATIVE ON US, THERE'S A THING CALLED THE COMMON ENEMY DOCTRINE, THE DOCTRINE OF ALL OF THE LAWS, THE MAIN PART OF OUR LAW, THE COMMON EEMY DOCTRINE THAT REQUIRES US TO PARTICIPATE T PROTECT OURSELVES AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS. SO THESE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE WITH THE JOINT POWERS AND THOSE FALL UNDER COMMON ENEMY AND, IN FACT I CAN'T SEE HOW THEY COULDN'T PARTICIPATE? THEY MUST PARTICIPATE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY ARE GOING TO BE WATCHING OUT FOR THEMSELVES. SO I WOULD HAVE QUESTIONS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO EVACUATE? IF YOU REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND HAVING JOINT POWERS AND PEOPLE COMING HERE TO HELP, HOW DO WE EVACUATE? IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SIX LANES GOING SOUTH, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH PEOPLE COMING IN SO HOW DO YOU DO THAT? MIKE THOMPSON HAS CREATED THIS THING AND EVERYBODY IS INVOLVED IN THIS. THIS NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN. THAT SHOULD INVOLVE THE WATER LINES, WATER FIRE PREVENTION AND THESE THINGS AND DEVELOPMENT OF WATER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, THOMAS, THOSE ARE ALL THE CORDS WE HAVE. COUNCIL, ANY FINAL COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. IT DID — AS COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING MENTIONED NOT HAVING BEEN HERE, BUT BEING IN THAT AREA, I FOUND MYSELF WITH NAMES AND PLACES WITH POLICE LIEUTENANT ONE BECAUSE ONE OF THE TREASURES OF THIS COMMUNITY IS THE RELATIONSHIPS. SO ONE OF CHIEF GOSSNER'S FOLKS IS CALLING ONE OF CHIEF SCHREEDER'S FOLKS ARE CONNECTING RIGHT AWAY WORKING ON COMMUNITY PROBLEMS AND THAT IS A CREDIT TO ALL SENIOR STAFF AND THE CITY THAT WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS AND RECONVENE AT 4:00. WE'LL RECONVENE THE APRIL 30THCY COUNCIL AND SECRETARY RECALL. >> LET THE RECORD SHOW ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. >> REPORT ON STUDY SESSION, MR. CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT BRIEFLY? >> NTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD. >> MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, CLOSED SESSION? >> COUNCIL HELD CONSIDERATION THIS AFTERNOON DISCUSS THE ITEM AND GAVE DIRECTION TO STAFF AND WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD FROM THERE. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PROCLAMATIONS. MS. FLEMING, PROCLAMATION FOR CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL FLAG DAY. >> IHAVE GREG SPAULDING OR MIKE MILLER HERE? THIS PROCLAMATION IS FOR YOU QUESTION. WHERE'S THE FOURTH FRIDAY IN APRIL IS RECOGNIZED AS CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL FLAG DAY THROUGHOUT SONOMA COUNTY IN MEMORY OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE DIED BY VIOLENCE AND WHEREAS, THROUGHOUT AMERICA TRAGIC CASES OF VIOLENCE AGAINST CHILDREN OCCUR FREQUENTLY AND SENSELESSLY AND DESTROY INNOCENT LIVES AND DEVASTATE FAMILIES AND WHEREAS, THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA BELIEVE IN THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE, DIET ADVERTISE AND HOPE FOR THE FUTURE THROUGH OUR CHILDREN AND DEFLORAND CONDEMN ACTS OF VIOLENCE COMMITTED UPON THE CHIN OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND WHEREAS, MINIMIZING OCCURRENCES OF VIOLENCE IN EVERYDAY SOCIETY AND THE SONOMA COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT ARE COMMITTED TO RAISING INDIVIDUAL AND PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE NEED TO CARE FOR ALL OUR CHILDREN AND TO HONOR YOUNG LIVES LOST AND WHEREAS, MOVES HAS ACQUIRED A CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL FLAG FROM THE CHILD WELFARE LEAGUE OF AMERICA, WHO HAS BEEN A RECOGNIZABLE SYMBOL OF THE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF PROTECTING CHILDREN AND WHICH IS SPONSORING A NATIONAL EFFORT TO MEMORIALIZE CHILD VICTIMS AND WHICH HAS BEEN ADOPTED IN OTHER CALIFORNIA COMMUNITIES AND NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT TOM SCHWEDHELM MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL IN MEMORY OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE DIED BY VIOLENCE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE FOURTH FRIDAY NAMER AS CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL PLASTIC BAG DAY.
FLAG DAY. >> IT'S AN HONOR TO BE BEFORE YOU MR. MYOR. MY NAME IS STEVE BERRY AND WE HAVE BEFORE WORKING WITH THE GROUP MOVES NOW FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND MOVES WAS STARTED ORIGINALLY BY JUDGE ARNOLD ROSENFIELD, WOULD WANTED TO BRING THE DAY OF NON-VIOLENCE AND FOR 20 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT IN THE FOURTH APRIL IN NOVEMBER. SNCE THIS IS THE MONTH OF APRIL, CHILD PREVENTION MONTH, WE COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND ASKED TO HAVE THE PROCLAMATION ISSUED. THANK YOU FR DOING THAT. YOU SEE THE SILHOUETTE OF THE MISSING CHILD? LAST TIME WE DIDN'T DO AND JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND IN ADDITION TO HAVING MEMORIAL FLAG, WE STILL HAVE THE DAY OF NON-VIOLENCE, WHICH IS A DAY IN NOVEMBER. IT'S USUALLY A LUNCHEON THAT WE HAVE, AND WE HONOR INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS THAT ARE WORKING TOWARD THE CAUSES OF PEACE.
SO WE ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY WE ONLY HAVE THAT ONE DAY OF NON-VIOLENCE, BUT IT'S OUR HOPE THAT EVERY DY WILL BECOME THE DAY OF NON-VIOLENCE. AND THIS IS JOHN WHO WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, TOO. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> JOHN GORGE ALSO A BELLINGHAM BECOME OF MOVES AND IN ADDITION, TO THE FLAG AND PROCLAMATIONS THIS APRIL FOR THE FIRST TIME MOVES HAS DISTRIBUTED A NO VIOLENCE STICKER. AND WE'RE CURRENTLY DISTRIBUTING THEM AT THE TOY WORKS IN SEBASTOPOL AND AT FAIR MARKET IN SANTA ROSA.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE PARTICIPANTS. THIS IS A WAY TO GET A SYMBOL OF THE DESIRE OF OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT NON-VIOLENCE. SO WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN OUR MOVEMENT >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] ALL RIGHT WE HAVE ONE MORE PROCLAMATION. MR. OLIVARES, THE VOLUNTEERS IN POLICE SERVICES. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I GET TO WELCOME QUITE A FEW VIPS IN OUR COMMUNITY THIS AFTERNOON. SO I WILL ASK THEM ALL TO COME FORWARD WITH KIM AND DAVE AND RON AND LIZ AND RICHARD, SANDRA AND A HOST OF OTHERS COMING DOWN AND I WILL RAD THE PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS, APRIL IS NATIONAL INVOLVE MONTH TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME AND TALENTS WITH THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH BENEFITS THE SANTA ROSA POLITICIANER ITSELF, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA, AND WHEREAS, SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT VOLUNTEERS IN POLICE SERVICES PROGRAM VIPS HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1997, AND WHEREAS, THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT GREATLY RELIES ON ITS VIPS FOR A VARIETY OF SERVICES INCLUDING NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PRESENTATIONS, CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY, YOUTH CITIZENS POLICING AMY SENIOR [SKPO-RBGS/] IRON MAN, THE HUMAN RACE, ROSE PARADE, OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS DOWNTOWN AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, ABANDONED VEHICLE ABATEMENT, THE TREE-LIGHTING CEREMONY, ENFORCEMENT OF DISABLED PARKING LAWS, GRAFFITI ABATEMENT, BIKE SAFETY AND BIKE RODEOS, PHOTOGRAPHY OF EVENTS AND VARIOUS ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIS AND WHEREAS, IN 2018, 22 VIPS LOGGED IN EXCESS OF 4618 HOURS, WHICH RESULTED IN A CITY OF SANTA ROSA SAVINGS OF APPROXIMATELY $215,675 DURING THE PAST YEAR, AND WHEREAS, THE ASSISTANCE THEY PROVIDE BOTH THE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY IS ESSENTIAL IN PROVIDING CUSTOMER SERVICE TO SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT AD TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA.
VIPS HELP MAKE SANTA ROSA ASAFE PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT MAYOR TOM SCHWEDHELM, THE MAY OF THE CITY OF SNTA ROSA ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL THANK AND EXTEND GRATITUDE FOR THE VOLUNTEERS IN POLICE SERVICES. [ APPLAUSE ] . >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS APPARENTLY THEY ARE SHY WHICH TOOTING THEIR OWN HORN AND THE PROCLAMATION SAID IT IN SO MANY WAYS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT VOLUNTEERS WHO DONATE 4,000 ANNUALLY TO THIS COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS OTHER COMMUNITIES WHEN THEY ASK FOR IT OVER IN SEBASTOPOL, FOR DIFFERENT PARADES AND EVENTS. THEY ARE HERE ON OUR STREETS HELPING OUR NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR VACATION CHECKS AND THESE KIND OF THINGS. AND RECENTLY WE HAD THE HONOR TO BESTOW THE BADGES ON TWO VIPS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US AND I THINK JOHN G WAS 18 YEARS AND BILL WAS 1. SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS THAT NOT ONLY DONATE TO THIS COMMUNITY, BUT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FAMILY LONGER THAN MANY OF THE MEMBERS WO HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR US NOW.
SO WE DO APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT VIPS DO FOR US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, CHIEF. I WOULD INVITE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN US FOR A GROUP PHOTO. [ APPLAUSE ] I ASKED SOME OF THE VIPS IF THEY ARE GOING TO STICK AROUND THE WHOLE MEETING AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD STICK AROUND AS LONG AS THE CHIEF DOES. [LAUGHTER ]MR. CITY MANAGER, DO WE HAVE A FIRE RECOVERY AND REBUILD UPDATE? >> YES, WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS TODAY >> THE FIRST IS BY GABE OSBURN AND THE SECOND BY JASON NUTT.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR SCHWEDHELM AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY PROVIDE IT AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE REBUILD EFFORTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKING FOR A WHILE NOW. SPECIFICALLY THE FOCUS OF THE DISCUSSION TODAY IS GOING TO BE ON SOME OF THE PUBLIC OUTREACH IN THE FORM OF DOCUMENT PREPARATION. AND WE HAVE REALLY BEEN DOING THIS SINCE THE VERY GET-GO AND FOUND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY IN MESSAGING.
WHEN WE'RE PRESENT WADE PROBLEM IN THE REBUILD WE DEVELOP SOLUTIONS AND THEN PRESENTED THE SOLUTIONS IN A FORM OF VARIOUS OF DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS. AND VERY EARLY ON IN THE PROJECTION MOST OF THESE ARE REALLY ASSOCIATE WITH THE PHYSICAL REBUILDING PROCESS, BUT VERY EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS WE BEGAN ENGAGING THE STANDING HOME COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE KNEW AS THE REBUILD PROGRESSED, STANDING HOME COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT SET OF ISSUES AND A DIFFERENT SET OF CONCERNS AND NOW THAT WE'RE OCCUPYING MORE HOMES THE STANDING HOME COMMUNITY IS ACTUALLY INCREASING. SO RECENTLY WE ACTUALLY CREATED A NEW DOCUMENT AND I DO APOLOGIZE. WE'LL HAVE TO DO A REFRESH HERE. THAT FOCUSES ON THE STANDING HOME, WHICH WE'RE REFERRING TO AS OUR WELCOME HOME DOCUMENT. REALLY WE COBBLED TOGETHER AS MANY RESOURCE AS WE COULD, THAT FOCUS O THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT SOMEONE COMING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WOULD REALLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT. WE PARTNERED WITH POSTAL SERVICE WILL REESTABLISHING MAIL SERVICE AND WE WORKED WITH PG&E AND THEY DEVELOPED DOS THAT WE INVESTOR SPECIFIC TO SOMEONE COMING BACK AND THE RESOURCES THAT THEY WOULD NEED FROM AN ENERGY-EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT.
WE ALSO FACTORED IN NOISE, CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT AS PEOPLE COME BACK, THEY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH. SO IN EACH OF THESE SECTIONS, WE AE PROVIDED THE APPROPRIATE POINT OF CONTACT AND INCLUDED, AS MUCH AS WE COULD TO DIRECT THEM TO GETTING THE APPROPRIATE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. SO WE ROLLED THIS OUT AS OF TODAY. THIS IS REALLY A COLLABORATION AS I MENTIONED MULTIPLE AGENCIES, AS WELL AS MANY COMMUNITY GROUPS AND WORKING WITH THE COFFEY STRONG GROUP AND BLACK CAPTAIN GROUP AND LIVING DOCUMENT THE, THIS IS THE FIRST VERSION AND AS WE FIND MORE QUESTIONS WE'LL INCORPORATE IN OTHER VERSESING OF THIS. SO THAT REALLY FINALIZES THE SUMMARY AND AT THIS POINT WE'LL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. >> COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO THROW NOT A QUESTION, BUT JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
AND I KNOW DAVID IS UP THERE, YOUR DIRECT REPORT, GABE WAS THERE LAST NIGHT AT COFFEY SRONG AND THE SANTA ROSA STAFF AND TWO WEEKS AGO WE HAD OUR LIEUTENANT THERE AND WHAT I APPRECIATED WAS THE RESIDENTS OF TIS COMMUNITY GET THAT WE REALLY ARE WORKING ON THIS THING TOGETHER. BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE'LL END UP WORKING ON A PRODUCT THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE HERE. SO I TRULY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS AND YOUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO THIS REBUILD EFFORT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY ALL OF US. THANK YOU, GABE. MR. CITY MANAGER, YOUR NEXT PRESENTATION. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR SCHWEDHELM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, JASON NUTT DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS. AS WE PREPAREDS FOR PUBLIC MEETING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING THIS WEK THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE PROVIDING THOUGHT TO BE A GOOD IDEA TO DELIVER TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL. IN PARTICULAR, RELATING TO THE DISPOSITION OF STREET LIGHT REPAIRS, SIDEWALK AND STREET TREE REPAIRS.
OUR STREET LIGHT PROGRAM IS STARTING TO PROGRESS. WE HAVE ABOUT 500 STREET LIGHTS THAT WERE DAMAGED DURING THE FIRE ITSELF, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RECOVERING. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH PG&E AS A PARTNERSHIP IN AN EFFORT TO RESTORE STREET LIGHTS AND POWER TO THOSE AREAS THAT WE HAD SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE N. PARTICULAR PG&E'S UNDERGROUND SYSTEM AS YOU ARE AWARE WAS DANIELED IN COFFEY PARK AND HIDDEN VALLEY AND IT'S BEEN A COORDINATION EFFORT FOR US TO WORK WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT OUR SRVICE LINES THAT FEED THE STREET LIGHTS ARE ASO REPAIRED AND PUT BACK INTO SERVICE THE WAY THEY WERE INTENDED TO BE.
IN SOME CASES WE'RE HAVING TO DO FULL REDESIGNS AND CONTRACTORS ARE PREPARED TO COME OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND IN PARTICULAR COFFEY PARK IN JULY, THAT WILL BE SPECIFICALLY WORKING ON TRYING TO RESTORE THOSE STREET LIGHTS. SO THAT THE TEMPORARY POWER POLES AND STREET LIGHTS CAN COME DOWN IN THE COFFEY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. SIMILAR WORK WILL BE HAPPENING IN HIDDEN VALLEY SHORTLY THEREAFTER AND WE'RE FOCUSING OUR EFFORTS ON TRYING TO KEEP THE OTHER STREET LIGHTS THAT WERE DAMAGED UP IN FOUNTAIN GROVE AND GETTING THOSE RESTORED.
OUR STAFF IS CURRENTLY DOING ABOUT 10-15 RESTORES A DAY. I'M SORRY, RESTORES A WEEK. SO WE'RE GETTING 10-15 STREET LIGHTS PUT BACK INTO OPERATION EVERY WEEK. WE ARE RUNNING INTO SOME MATERIAL ISSUES AND SO WE HAVE GOT A NUMBER OF MATERIALS ON ORDER AND, IN FACT JUST ABOUT EVERY PIECE OF MATERIAL THAT WE'LL NEED TO FULLY RESTORE THE SYSTEM IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING ORDER. SOME ARE ALREADY IN THE MODE OF BEING PRODUCED AND SHIPPED. SIMPILE THINGS LIKE A GLOBE ON TOP OF THE STREET LIGHT AND AS SOON AS THEY ARE HERE WE'LL BEGIN TO DISPLAY. DEPLOY AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FIXTURES TO BE PREPARED ON THE INSIDE UNIWIRE CONVERTING TO LEDS. SO WE'RE CHANGING OUR MODE AS WE'RE DOING RESTORATION.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE QUANTIFYING EXPENDITURES FOR FEMA, BECAUSE IT'S THE NEW STANDARD AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. SO WE ARE IN ATTEMPTS TO GET ALL OF THESE STREET LIGHTS REPAIRED BY THE END OF SUMMER. THERE IS ONE COMPONENT OF THE OPERATION THAT WE HAVEN'T YET STARTED ON. THERE WAS A SERIES OF ABOUT 60 WOOD POLES BURNED DURING THE FIRE THAT HD DIRECT TO BURIED CABLE. SO THE CABLING IS GONE AND THE POLEGROUND AND THERE IS NO FOUNDATION FOR A WOOD POLE. SO IN THOSE COMMUNITIES WE HAVE TO BEGIN AND COMPLETELY REDESIGN AND BUILD THOSE SYSTEMS FROM SCRATCH. IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO BE FIRE SAFE MOVING FORWARD WE HAVE ALSO UTILIZED ING A DIFFERENT POLE TYPE. IT'S OUR ATTEMPT TO MATCH THE TYPE OF POLE THERE PREVIOUSLY WITH A WOOD POLE WAY CARRIAGE LIGHT ON THE END AND MOVING FORWARD WITH A STEEL ALUMINUM POLE WITH THE SIMILAR CARRIAGE FIXTURE ON IT WITH STEEL POLE FIRE-RESISTANT TO MATCH AS BEST AS WE CAN THE COMMUNITY AESTHETIC WHILE TRYING TO IMPROVE THINGS MOVING FORWARD TO MAKE OUR SYMPTOM A LITTLE MORE RESILIENT. ON THE STREET TREE AND SIDEWALK SIDE, SIDEWALKS AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WE HAVE BEEN CURRENTLY DENIED BY FOR EXAMPLE FOR RECEIVING REIMBURSEMENT FOR MAKING SIDEWALK REPLACEMENTS.
THAT IS BECAUSE OF AN ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED THAT MADE THE SIDEWALKS THE FUNDING PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF APPEALING THAT DENIAL, AND WE HAVE YE TO HAVE OUR FINAL SAY WITH FEMA IN FRONT OF US TO BE ABLE TO STATE OUR CASE ON THIS. WE D BELIEVE THERE IS SOME LEGAL ISSUES THAT MAKE OUR POSITION BECAUSE OF THE EXTENUATING SITUATIONS THE CORRECT POSITION AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOBBY FOR EXAMPLE TO SEE OUR POSITION AND OUR CASE. WITH THAT SAID, WE DID NOTIFY RESIDENTS UP IN FOUNTAIN GROVE RECENTLY IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, OR YOU FEL THE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SIDEWALK REPAIRS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
BECAUSE I CAN'T BE CONVINCED THAT WE'LL BE GETTING SUPPORT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. ON THE STREET TREE SIDE, THE ARBORIST IDENTIFIED ALL TREES WTHIN THE CITY'S RIGHT-OF-WAY OR IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE CITY'S RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT COULD POSE A POTENTIAL THREAT TO THOSE USING TE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO FEMA AS PART OF THAT PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROJECT. AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF SOLICITING CONTRACTORS IN AN EFFORT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN TAKING THOSE TREE DOWNS. IT IS OUR INTEREST IN TAKING ALL OF THE TREES ALONG THE STREET AS PART OF OUR PROCESS. AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO SEE HOW THAT IS GOING TO FUNCTION WITH FOR EXAMPLE? WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A GREEN LIGHT FROM FEMA TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT YET. HOWEVER, WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM TO TRY TO GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND IT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT AND I EXPECT THAT WE'LL BE HAVING MORE AND MORE DISCUSSIONS WITH IN NEXT THREE TO FOUR WEEKS WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS THERE.
SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR POSITION IS. SO I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU THAT UPDATE ON THOSE THREE ITEMS AS PEOPLE START TO MOVE BACK INTO THEIR COMMUNITIS, THERE SEEMS TO BE A HEIGHTENED SENSE OF INTEREST IN THOSE THREE. I WANTED YOU TO KNOW, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING THEONS. WE HAVE NOT BEEN SITING AND DOING NOTHING OVER THIS TIME, BUT REALLY FOCUSING ON HOW BEST TO POSITION OURSELVES TOFEMA REIMBURSEMENT AND TO D THE COMPREHENSIVE JOB IN DOING THIS TYPE OF RESTORATION FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. AND WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> GREAT, THANK YOU, JASON. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? VERONICA? >> THANK YOU. VICTORIA, GO AHEAD. >> I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, DIRECTOR, NUTT, AS WELL AS MR. OSBURN AND MR. NELSON FROM SR PD AND THE COMMUNITY FOR COMING OUT TO THE MEETINGS.
IT WILL BE THE FIRST IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE REPOPULATING IN OUR FOUNTAIN GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE LESSONS LEARNED FROM COFFEY PARK AND THAT WE'LL BE EFFECTIVE IN COMMUNICATING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE WERE IN COFFEY PARK. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND STAFF AND YOUR COUNTERPARTS FOR YOUR TIME. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED THE MATERIAL USED. CAN YOU LET US UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE TREES, STUMPS AND SIDEWALKS? THERE HAS TO BE AN ORDER THAT TAKES PLACE AND HOW DOES FEMA FIT INTO THIS AND WHAT CAN YOU OUR RESIDENTS TO DEAL WITH THAT TRIFECTA? >> YOU ARE REALLY GOING TO THROW FEMA IN THERE? SO I THINK THE OVERALL ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO FACE WITH FEMA IS THEIR INTERPRETATION OF OUR ORDINANCE.
I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS COMMUNICATED TO US THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHERE WE SHOULD BE DRAWING THE LINE AND WE'LL HAVE SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS. I THINK JUST IN THE OVERALL ISSUE, FEMA HAS TAKEN AN INTERPRETATION THA THOSE ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS' RESPONSIBILITY. W MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW MOVING FORWARD, AND, IN FACT WE DO HAVE A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. BUT IT'S AN ITERATIVE PROCESS AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH AN APPEALS PROCESS. SO THAT IS THE OVERARCHING STATEMENT AND NOW LET THE DIRECTOR DISCUSS THE MINUTIA. >> SO THE STREET TREES ACTUALLY WE HAVE NOT RECEIVE A NOTICE OF DETERMINATION ON THE STREET TREES AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AS FEMA-ELIGIBLE PROJECT. THE STREET TREES THERE ARE THREE COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE HAVE TO DIVIDE OUR THOUGHT PROCESS THREE WAYS. THERE IS A FEMA ELIGIBLE TREE, THOSE ARE TREES OF SUBSTANTIAL SIZE, SUBSTANTIAL MEANING THAT THEY HAVE 6 INCH DIAMETER FOUR FEET OFF THE GROUND TRUNK AND IELIGIBLE IS BELOW THAT AND THOSE TREES HAVE BEEN SEPARATED ITO DIFFERENT LISTS.
THERE ARE THE STUMPS AND FEMA IN THEIR PROTOCOLS DO NOT ALLOW THE REMOVAL OF STUMP UNLESS THE STUMP IS EXPOSED 50% AND IN A FIRE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN UNLESS IT'S EXPOSED FROM THE TOP BECAUSE THE TREE BURNED ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. SO ALL THREE OF THOSE SPECIFIC PIECES ARE INCORPORATING INTO OUR BID PRICE. WE'RE TREATING FEMA — WE'RE WORKING WITH FEMA WITH THOSE AS INDIVIDUALIZED PROJECTS.
AND WE ARE TALKING TO OUR STAFF AS TO HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS THOSE IN DIFFERENT WAYS DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF FEEDBACK WE GET FROM FEMA? >> THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S VERY DETAILED AND I KNOW CITY STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS. IT'S NOT AS EASY AS I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, CUT THE TREE DOWN AND WE'RE DONE. MUCH MORE COMPLICATED. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW DIFFERENT AREAS ARE NOW BEING REPOPULATED.
WHAT WOULD RESIDENTS WHO BELIEVE THAT ONE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS, SAY IT'S STILL A VACANT LOT HAS BURNED OUT TREES AND NOW IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NOT A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AND WHAT IF IT FEEL IT'S A HAZARD TO THEIR HOUSE, YARD OR PROPERTY? >> I MIGHT LOOK TO MY COUNTERPART, GABE, IF HE WANTS TO COME BACK DOWN? IF THEY BELIEVE TERE IS A QUESTION OR CONCERN, AND GABE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CORRECT ME.
FIRST, WE NEED — THEY NEED TO CONTACT — THEY CAN CONTACT SOMEBODY HERE AND WE'LL HELP TO NAVIGATE THAT. ULTIMATELY THERE MAY BE OTHER PLACES LIKE THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY, OR CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT WOULD HELP JUSTIFY THAT. GABE. >> SO THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT SITUATIONS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY PRESENT THAT RISK. A VACANT LOT WITH A TREE AND NO ACTIVE BUILDING AND THAT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN IF THERE IS ACTIVE BILDING.
TYPICALLY ON THE VACANT SIZE IF THEY HAVE SOME LEVEL OF SURFACE MOVEMENT AND BUILDING PERMIT WE'LL WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO [KP-ED/]ITE THE REMOVAL OF THAT TREE, IF IT'S INTERPRETED TO BE A THREAT TO THE AD[SKWRA-UFPBT/] PROPERTY OWNER OR PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE MORE CHALLENGING SITUATION IS OBVIOUSLY IF THE LOT IS VACANT AND INACTIVE. TRACKING OWNER BECAUSE PARCELS HAVE CHANGED, IN SOME SITUATIONS WE HAVE UTILIZED CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR THAT. THAT NORMALLY OUTSIDE OF THE FIRE REBUILD TACTIC TO DO THAT AND LOOKING FOR A MORE COLLABORATIVE SITUATION TO DEAL HOLISTICALLY WITH THE TREES. WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE REBUILD TEAM CAN WORK WITH THAT TO PROPERLY IDENTIFY THE TREES AND PROPERLY IDENTIFY THE THREAT. MORE AND MORE QUESTIONS ARISE AS THE BOILING HAPPENS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT NOW AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP SOME SOLID SOLUTION BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING INTO THAT FIRE SEASON WITH THE LEVEL OF ACTIVITY INCREASING, AS WELL AS THE LEVEL OF OCCUPANCY IS INCREASING. >> WE ALSO HAVE AN OUTSTANDING HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT THAT IS TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CURRENTLY IT'S BEEN PASSED ON FROM STATE TO THAT IS HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.
THE STATE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR REVIEW. BUT WE'RE LOKING ACTIVELY AT WHAT ITERATIVE STEPS WE MIGHT TAKE WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING THE GRANT AND ITS STATUS? SO IT'S AN ACTIVE, ONGOING CONVERSATION. >> AND ALSO, AS WE HAVE BEEN — AS WE HAVE NOW COMPLETED THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY EVALUATION, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC PROPERTIES IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE'RE ASKING PRIVATE CITIZENS T DO. >> GREAT. COUNCIL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO? THANK YOU FOR THE REPORTS. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT FOR US TODAY? >> FROM RECREATION AND PARKS, THE RECREATION AND PARKS DEPARTMENT HOSTED THEIR ANNUAL SENIOR EXPO AT PERSON'S SENIOR WING THIS PAST SATURDAY AND 56 VENDORS SHARED RESCUES, DEMONSTRATIONS, HEALTH SCREENINGS, NUTRITIONS, SAFETY AND TRAVEL TIPS TO 400 SENIORS. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT: THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT'S VIOLENCE PREVENTING PARTNERSHIP HOSTED THE 3 ANNUAL PROGRAM A SERIES OF OPPORTUNITIES DELIVERED TO PARENTS OF HIGH RISK YOUTH TO STRENGTHEN FAMILIS AND BUILD SAFE COMMUNITIES.
THE APRIL 2019 LINEUP INCLUDED TRAININGS TO SANTA ROSA CITY SCHOOL SCHOOL DISTRICT ENGLISH LEARNERS ADVISORY AND THE PARENTS CLUB, A COMMUNITY POLICING WORKSHOP WITH SR PD AND FAMILY ENGAGEMENT NIGHT IN THE SOUTH PARK AREA. THANK YOU. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT FOR US? >> I DO. I HAVE THE QUARTERLY REPORT OF LITIGATION. AND SETTLEMENTS. I WOULD NOTE THAT WE HAD NO SETTLEMENTS IN THE 1ST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. WE DID HOWEVER RESOLVE THREE OF OUR CASES AT NO COST TO THE CITY. THAT INCLUDED A SUMMARY JUDGMENT IN A WRONGFUL DEATH ACTION AND DISMISS ILAH CLAIM FOR PERSONAL INJURY, AS WELL AS DISMISSAL OF A NEGLIGENCE CLAIM AND AGAINST THOSE WERE AT NO COST TO THE CITY. SO OUR PENDING LITIGATION LIST INCLUDES 14 CASES, EIGHT OF THOSE CASES ARE SCHEDULED FOR TRIAL BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING ON IN THOSE CASES. IN ALL OF THE CASES, DISCOVERY IS UNDERWAY, AND IN SEVERAL OF THE CASES WE'RE ENGAGED IN SOME RATHER DETAILED AND LENGTHY SETTLEMENT DISCUSSIONS. I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT LIST IS PRIMARILY THE CASES IN WHICH THE CITY HAS BEEN SUED. THE CITY IS A DEFENDANT AND WHERE IT'S NOT ON THE LIST IS THE CITY AS PLAINTIFF AND SUING OTHERS. SO MOST SIGNIFICANTLY IS THE PG&E LITIGATION, AND THAT IS MOVING FORWARD BOTH IN THE BANKRUPTCY COURT AND BEFORE THE CPUC, AND PARTICULARLY THE CPUC PROCEEDINGS ARE VERY ACTIVE AT THIS POINT.
SO OUR FOLKS ARE ENGAGED IN ALL OF THAT. THE LIST ALSO DOESN'T INCLUDE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES INCLUDING THREE ACTIVE RECEIVERSHIPS AT THIS POINT AND ANOTHER COUPLE IN THE WORK. THIS ALSO DOESN'T IDENTIFY SOME OF THE SHORTER MATTERS THAT WE ADDRESSED, THE WEAPONS ISSUES AND THE MOTIONSS AND WE HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE AS WELL. IN TERMS OF NEW CLAIMS THAT WERE FILED IN THE 1ST QUARTER, WE HAVE EIGHT NEW CLAIMS, INCLUDING FIVE PERSONAL INJURY CASES — OR CLAIMS. TWO CLAIMS REGARDING POLICE ACTIONS, AND ONE CLAIM REGARDING TO A FATAL TRAFFIC ACCIDENT.
SO WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THOSE AND WORKING WITH RISK MANAGEMENT ON THOSE CLAIMS AS WELL. AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT. STATEMENTS OF ABSTENTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM ITEM 12.4. ANY OTHER ABSTENTIONS? >> I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY. >> ALL RIGHT. MAYOR/COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS. WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? >> I'M NOT SURE I'M GET A WHISPER OVER HERE, BUT I DO WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP. ONE OF THE THINGS CURRENTLY ACTUALLY CAN I ASK YOU, MR. MANAGER, WHAT PUBLIC BANKING IS? DID THAT MAKE IT TO OUR PRIORITIES LIST, 1, 2, OR 3 THIS YEAR? I DID NOT RECALL? >> IT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO ANY LIST AND THERE WILL BE A DISCUSSION NEXT YEAR, BUT IT'S NOT ON ANY TIER AND, IN FACT, I CAN ONLY SAY THAT THE LONG-TERM FINANCE COMMITTEE REVIEWED IT AND DID NOT RECOMMEND IT TO BRING FORWARD. BECAUSE THERE IS NO VIABLE WAY TO DO IT AT THIS TIME, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT — THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, I BELIEVE, WAS DETERMINED IN THE MEETING WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
>> ND LEGISLATIVE FRONT AT MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE WE HAVEN'T MEATS, BUT OF THE LEAGUE'S OF CITIES AN ACTION DAY THAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK. >> WHEN IS THAT MEETING WITH MAYORS? >> IT'S NOT THE FULL RECEPTION WITH ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING INVITED. IT'S THE MONTHLY MEETING WITH ONE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM EACH CITY. >> SURE. >> TO TALK ABOUT LEGISLATION IN SACRAMENTO THAT IMPACTS US. AND THAT ONE, I WANT TO SAY IT'S THREE WEEKS OUT, BT I HAVE TO CHECK FOR YOU. >> THREE WEEKS OUT, OKAY. I DO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO DISCUSSION A RESOLUTION FOR ASSEMBLY BILL 857 THAT ALLOWS CITIE LIKE OURS TO HAVE A PATH FORWARD UNDER THE BUSINESS OVERSIGHT TO CREATE A PUBLIC BANK. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LEAGUE OF CITIES IS OR WHERE WE ARE YET, BUT JUST TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA.
IF THERE IS A SECOND IN THE ROOM I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL AFTER YOUR ICE-MAYOR ROGERS HAVE – REPORT-OUT FROM THAT MEETING. >> I WILL SECOND THAT FOR DISCUSSION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. SO DISCUSSION ON AB 857, MR. TIBBETTS. >> 857. >> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR REPORT? >> NO. >> SORRY THAT WAS THE WHISPER. >> MORE TO FOLLOW. GO AHEAD. >> I WILL GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE RENEWAL DISTRICT AND COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS IS THE VICE-CHAIR. STARTING WITH OUR FIRST MEETING HONORING IN ON WHAT CRITERIA WILL BE THAT THIS REAL LIKES AT TO SPUR HOUSING CREATION.
TWO IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF. ONE THAT WE SENT A LTTER TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S OFFICE RQUESTING FUNDING ASSISTANCE TO HELP KICK START THE RENEWABLE ENTERPRISE DISTRICT. HE WAS BEEN PRETTY UPFRONT FOR THESE ENTITIES AND CREATE THE RIGHT TYPE OF HOUSING THAT CALIFORNIA IS LOOKING FOR AND WE FELT IT WAS IN LOCK-STEP WITH THAT AND SEND A REQUEST AND I'M SURE ASSISTANT MANAGER GOUIN WILL ADVICE US AND ENHANCED INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCE DISTRICT THIS. IS SHING THAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO WEIGH-IN ON NEUTER, BECAUSE IN THE RENEWABLE ENTERPRISE DISTRICT JPA BOARD DECIDES TO PRESS FORWARD WITH AN ENHANDS INFRASTRUCTURE DISTRICT, IT'S GING TO REQUIRE BUY-IN FROM BOTH JURISDICTIONS THAT WILL DO SOME OF THE PROFIT SHARING OF THE FUTURE EARNINGS OF THEIR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
SPECIFICALLY THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA, AND THE COUNTY OF SONOMA. THERE WERE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE REVENUE-SHARING WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT NO COMMITMENTS OR EVEN CONVERSATION REALLY WENT INTO THAT DETAIL. SO WE'RE JUST GETTING IDEAS THAT THE POINT AND EITHER I OR COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THOSE MEETINGS. >> JUST AS AN ADDITION, AT SOME POINT WE'LL NEED TO TALK ABOUT IF WE HAVE EIFD TAX DOLLARS FOR THE TAX INCREMENT. AT SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE HOW MUCH OR WHAT PERCENT WILL WE PUT INTO THE RED HOUSING FUND FOR THE JPA? AND I THINK THAT RISES TO THE KIND OF DECISION THAT WE NEED TO BRING TO YOU ALL. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN COUNT ON STAFF TO DO SOME PRESENTATIONS ON THAT. S IT'S REALLY CLEAR WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE AND WHERE OUR LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES WILL BE? AND I HAD ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY A QUESTION ABOUT THERE.
>> YES. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO CLARIFY THAT THE DECISION OF FORMATION OF THE EIFD AND THE PERCENTAGE THAT THE CITY WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE RED. THOSE ARE BOTH DECISIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AS A LEGAL MATTER. >> DONE WITH YOUR REPORT? MS. COMBS ARE YOU DONE? >> I'M DONE WITH HIS REPORT. >> DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A REPORT? >> NO, THANK YOU. MAINLY JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT WAS A WONDERFUL AND INTERESTING MEETING AND I APPRECIATE SAFF'S INVOLVEMENT IN THAT JPA. THAT RED. I DID ASK AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN THE CABINET MEETING WOULD BE SCHEDULE AND HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYONE ABOUT THE SCHEDULING FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHICH IS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS THAT. >> I THINK NEXT WEEK IS GOING TO BE — I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAYOR IS GOING TO ANNOUNCE SOMETHING TONIGHT, WHICH WILL DRIVE SOME OF THESE OTHER CONVERSATIONS, BUT THERE IS NOTHING SCHEDULED AND AWAITING ADDITIONAL INPUT. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT IS WHY TERE IS NO UPDATE, BECAUSE NOTHING HAS BEEN SCHEDULED. >> WAS THAT IT? >> THAT'S IT.
>> OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST, START WITH 11.1 GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY, HAD A BOARD MEETING APRIL 11TH AND WE RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON THE GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY PLAN AND AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND I APOLOGIZE I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC DATE. BUT DECISIONS WILL BE MADE AT THAT NEXT MEETING. AND THE ONLY SPECIFIC VOTE WE TOOK OR ONE OF THE SPECIFIC VOTES WE TOOK BTH LYNDA HOPKINS THE CURRENT CHAIR AND I VICE-CHAIR WERE ELECTED FOR ANOTHER TERM ON THE BOARD. AND ITEM 11.1.9 HOMELESS SYSTEM OF CARE, OUR LEADERSHIP COUNCIL IN THIS CHAMBER WE HAD A MEETING APRIL 17TH. IT WAS A CONTINUATION OF OUR MARCH MEETING, WHERE WE DECIDED APPROXIMATELY $14 MILLION IN FUNDING. SO I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND PROJECTED THAT WERE FUNDED.
IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A MOVING TARGET I'M NOT 100% SURE WHAT THE BOARD DID TODAY, BUT ON THE HOME SONOMA COUNTY SITE ALL OF THESE DECISIONS ARE POSTED. >> I THINK THEY VOTED TO CONTINUE THAT. >> UNTIL TEY SEE IT IN WRITING. >> BELIEVE IT WHEN YOU SEE IT. >> JUST SOME OTHER THINGS ON APRIL 22ND, COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS IS MENTIONING WE HAD OUR GOAL-SETTING SUB-COMMITTEE.
AND BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING AND MYSELF PROVIDED FEEDBACK TO STAFF REGARDING OUR SPECIFIC PRIORITIES. IDENTIFIED AND GAVE FEEDBACK REGARDING SPECIFIC SMART GOALS, ACHIEVABLE, RELEVANT AND TIME-BOUND AND THAT IS RETURNING TO THIS BODY ON MAY 7TH, CORRECT, MR. CITY MANAGER? AND TIER 1 TO IMPLEMENT THE CLIMB ACTION PLAN WITH THREE SPECIFIC ITEMS 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY AND COUNCIL SUBCHEMICALS ON COMPLIMENT AND ALL ELECTRIC READINESS AND I'M READY TO APPOINT MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS AND VICE-MAYOR ROGERS TO BE MEMBERS OF THE CLIMATE SUB-COMMITTEE AND GIVE THE INFORMATION TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR THE NEXT STEP TO FORM THAT COMMITTEE.
THE LAST THING WE ATTENDED LAST WEDNESDAY, I THINK IT WAS, LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAY IN THE CAPITOL, VICE-MAYOR ROGERS WAS THERE, COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING WAS THERE ALONG WITH CITY STAFF, LOBBYING FOR — IT SEEMED LIKE A LOT OF HOUSING BILLS THAT WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF IT. SO IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITITOR CONNECTING WITH A OUR LEGISLATORS AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER S LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES SPONSORED A COUPLE OF OF DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS.
SO IT WAS GREAT TO TALK ABOUT ITEMS OF SIMILAR INTEREST I APPRECIATE THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF FOR THAT BUSY SCHEDULE AND FOR VICE-MAYOR ROGERS GETTING US IN ON AN UNSCHEDULED VISIT. THAT WAS GREAT. ANY OTHER REPORTS? SEEING NONE, MOVING TO ITEM 11.2.1. THIS WAS I BELIEVE MY ITEM TO RECEIVE DIRECTION AND I'M LOOKING AT OUR CITY CLERK. YOUR RIGHT, GEORGE. MY BAD. WE HAVE A CARD ON ITEM 11.1, GEORGE BARDY. >> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF — HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING? THERE ARE A LOT OF AGENCIES ON HERE. LET ME START BY SAYING THANK YOU. BECAUSE YOU HEARD YOU ALL MENTION THE PUBLIC BANK. SO YOU CAN HEAR. YOUR EARS ARE OPEN AND ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE IN THIS CITY WANTS A PUBLIC BANK. THERE IS NOT A PERSON OUTSIDE OF YOU THAT TRUSTS BANKS TO DO ANYTHING POSITIVE FOR US. THEY ARE PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS. THEY SERVE PRIVATE INTERESTS. A PUBLIC BANK SERVICES THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST. YOU HEARD US SAY THAT. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, AND I MEAN IT.
I'M A GUY WHO MEANS WHAT HE SAYS, IF YOU HAVE CAUGHT ON. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THESE AGENCIES. I SEE A LOT OF THEM HERE, SONOMA COUNTY WATER AGENCY AND HOMELESS SYSTEM AND CARE AND HEARING CONVERSATIONS HOW WE'RE GOING FIND MONEY; RIGHT? AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO FIND MONEY BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH 100% OF THE TIME WE'RE NOT IN THIS BUILDING YOU ARE ALL HIDING IT AND YOU USE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THIS TO HIDE.
IT I SEE WHAT, SEVEN, EIGHT BOARDS HERE? I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF THERE WERE THAT MANY MEMBERS ON THE BOARD; RIGHT? WHAT YOU ALL DO IS APPOINT YOURSELVES. I MEAN YOU HAVE DONE IT TODAY. YOU APPOINT YOURSELVES TO HEAD THESE BOARDS; RIGHT? YOU GET A PER DIEM EVERY TIME THEY MEET AND HAVE SIMULTANEOUS MEETING EIGHT, NINE TEN BOARDS AND YOU MAKE PRETTY MUCH EVERY SIGNIFICANT DECISION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN; RIGHT? AND UNSURPRISINGLY THOSE ACTIONS MOVE MONIES AROUND FROM YOUR POCKETS — A PUBLIC BANK WOULD BE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST STEPS THAT WE COULD TAKE TO MAKING THAT PROCESS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT FOR YOU ALL. ALL RIGHT? JUST I'M NOT GOING TO STAND UP HERE AND PLAY PRETEND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM.
IT'S TIME FOR THAT TO STOP. WE NEED TO BE GROWNUPS ABOUT THAT. I RECENTLY WANT TO A SONOMA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS' MEETING AND THEY WERE DISCUSSING THE PROPOSED WATER BUDGET RATES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. ALL RIGHT? NOW YOU KNOW, WHILE THEY WERE DISCUSSING THAT, I HAD TO LOOK AT THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET FOR THAT, $769 MILLION. RIGHT? NOW JUST IN STORAGE AND BONDS, THE STORAGE, BONDS IS $122 MILLION. THAT IS ABOUT 16% OF THE TOTAL OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET JUST CAUGHT UP IN DOING THINGSINGS THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH QUALITY OF OUR WATER IN HIDING MONEY, IN MOVING IT AROUND, PUTTING IT IN BONDS AND CREATING FINANCIAL PRODUCTS IS NOT WHAT A WATER AGENCY DOES.
A WATER AGENCY CLEANS WATER; RIGHT? IT'S A STEWARD OF PUBLICS RESOURCES. NOBODY OWNS WATER; RIGHT? IT BELONGS TO EVERYBODY AND IT'S OUR BUSINESS AS A GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT BELONGS TO EVERYBODY, NOT TO MAKE SECURITIES WITH IT. THAT IS A RIDICULOUS THING TO DO; RIGHT? IT'S TIME TO PULL OUR HEADS OUT OF THE CLOUD AND GET THEM BACK ON EARTH WHERE THEY BELONG AND START TAKING CARE OF PUBLIC RESOURCES. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, 11.2.1. I WANTED THIS ON TE AGENDA ACTION TO TAKE A POSITION ON THE CASA COMPACT LETTER, BECAUSE IT APPEARS — CAN YOU FIRST LAY A FOUNDATION ABOUT YOUR LEGISLATIVE ON COMMITTEE? BECAUSE FORM A SUB-COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU DID AND I WOULD LIKE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THIS BODY AS TO WHICH DIRECTION THEY WOULD LIKE ME TO SUPPORT? >> YES. AND JUST BY WAY OF A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, EVERY CITY IN SONOMA COUNTY APPOINTS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TO THE MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS' LEGISLATIVE TASK FORCE.
AND WHAT THE TASK FORCE DOES IS IT MEETS ONCE A MONTH AND IT DISCUSSES PENDING LEGISLATION IN SACRAMENTO THAT IMPACTS CITIES. WHAT WE DO, WE BRING THEM TOGETHER, WE DISCUSS ONCE A MONTH POTENTIAL POSITIONS THAT WE SHOULD TAKE. AND IF ALL NINE CITIES ARE UNANIMOUS IN WHAT OUR POSITION IS SUPPORT OR OPPOSE ON THIS LEGISLATION, GENERALLY WE TAKE THAT POSITION. IF IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL BILL, OR IF MORE THAN SEVEN OF THE CITIES, BUT NOT NINE CITIES AGREE ON A POSITION, WE'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS' ASSOCIATION, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S MONTHLY O IF IT'S QUARTERLY? EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER FROM THE REGION IS INVITED TO COME AND DISCUSS THOSE PENDING ISSUES.
WHEN IT COMES T THE CASA COMPACT, WE HAD MULTIPLE SUBSTANTIAL CONVERSATIONS AT THE EXECUTIVE BOARD COMMITTEE, BOTH ABOUT THE COMPACT IF ITS CONCEPT AND THE TEN OUTLYING ISSUES,, AS WELL AS THE WAY THAT THE LEGISLATION IS BEING CRAFTED IN SACRAMENTO. THOSE TWO THINGS ARE VERY DSTINCT FROM ONE ANOTHER. PARTICULARLY GIVEN THAT THE COMPACT IS ALL-OR-NOTHING, BUT EACH INDIVIDUAL BILL IS THE ELEMENTS OF THE COMPACT AND NOT NECESSARILY LINKED TO THE OTHER TEN. THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE BY UNANIMOUS VOTE CHOOSE TO OPPOSE THE CASA COMPACT IN ITS CONCEPTION, AND SENT THAT TOT TO THE MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ASSOCIATION, WHERE THE MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS RATIFIED THAT POSITION AS WELL.
THAT IS NOT A PARTICULAR SUPPORT OR OPPOSE ON THE BILL, BUT ON THE COMPACT AS A WHOLE. >> SO THANK YOU. THAT IS VERY HELPFUL. SO SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE AUTHORED LETTERS SPECIFICALLY FOR OR AGAINST AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS SAID THEY ARE FOR IT? >> THERE ARE SOME EAST BAY CITIES THAT HAVE GONE IN SUPPORT, PARTICULARLY AREAS THAT WOULD END UP GETTING PRESUMABLY MORE OF THE FUNDING THAT COMES IN HAVE. I KNOW FROM SONOMA COUNTY HEALDSBURG, COTATI AND ROHNERT PARK, I BELIEVE HAVE ALL SENT OPPOSITION LETTERS. >> SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CARDS HERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. WHAT I WILL BE LOOKING FOR YOU, BASICALLY AS VICE-MAYOR ROGERS SAID, THE COMMITTEE WROTE A LETTER NOT SUPPORTING THE CASA COMPACT AND I'M ANTICIPATING THAT THE MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL WRITE A LETTER CONSISTENT WITH THAT. I WILL BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON AND THAT DO YOU WANT THE SANTA ROSA TO SIGN S TO THE LETTER MOST LIKELY OPPOSING THE CASA COMPACT? >> TO NOTE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF CONVERSATION AROUND SANTA ROSA IN PARTICULAR IS NOT A NIMBY DON'T BUILD HOUSING ANYWHERE NEAR US CONVERSATION, BUT AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS THAT MOST OF WHAT IS IN THE COMPACT THAT WE ALREADY DO AND THE FINANCING BEHIND TE CASA COMPACT WOULD BE BETTER UTILIZED HERE IN SANTA ROSA AS OPPOSED TO THE COMPACT 5% RETURN TO SOURCE, WHICH MEANS SENDING 25% OF THE FUNDS DOWN TO SAN JOSÉ OR OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE NOT TAKEN THE SUBSTANTIAL STEPS AS SANTA ROSA.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS VERY CLEAR. IT'S NOT AN ANTI-HOUSING POSITION THAT SANTA ROSA HAS TAKEN. RATHER WE THINK WE CAN DO IT BETTER. >> RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. BEFORE I GO TO COMMENTS ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL? GO AHEAD, MR. TIBBETTS. >> THIS HAS BEEN MY ONGOING CONCERN FROM THE POSITION THAT WE TOOK AND I AGREE I DON'T LIVE IT'S IN SANTA ROSA'S BEST INTEREST TO SIGN THE LETTER AND BECOME PART OF THE COMPACT, BUT DON'T WANT OUR LETTER OF OPPOSITION TO BE TAKENS A LETTER OF OPPOSITION FR PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING THIS. SO IN YOUR MIND, LEAST, VICE-MAYOR ROGERS WHAT I'M HEARING THERE IS A WAY TO EFFECTIVELY SAY RESPECTFULLY SANTA ROSA NEEDS TO MARCH TO THE BEAT OF ITS OWN DRUM WITH RENEWABLE ENTERPRISE DISTRICT AND OTHER INITIATIVES, BUT WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND WE CAN SUPPORT THE BILLS EFFECTIVELY INDIVIDUALLY ON AS A CME AS YOU GO BASIS.
>> MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION THERE ARE THREE AREAS OF THE COMPACT THAT I THINK ARE PARTICULARLY PROBLEMATIC FOR SANTA ROSA. ONE OF THEM IS THE FINANCING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DOLLARS THAT ARE GENERATED HERE ACTUALLY COME BACK TO PROJECTS THAT ARE HERE. THE SECOND IS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO HAVE THESE HARD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? AND WE HAVE TAILORED IT TO OUR APPROACH.
IT WASN'T A TOP-DOWN ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH. I THINK WE WOULD ALL AGREE WHAT WORKS IN SAN FRANCISCO DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK IN COTATI AND WE HAVE BEEN NUANCED IN SANTA ROSA TO FIT OUR COMMUNITY. THE THIRD AND FINAL ONE IS THERE IS A PERVERSE DISINCENTIVE IN THE CASA COMPACT FOR AREAS THAT ALSO DON'T WANT HOUSING TO REDUCE THEIR PUBLIC TRANSIT BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO SLIP UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS OF CASA. WE HAVE TALKED ALOT FROM THE DAIS OF SUPPORTING HOUSING LOCALLY, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT AND THERE ARE ALREADY A COUPLE OF COMMUNITIES IN MARIN COUNTY REDUCING THEIR BUS TRIPS ALONG HIGH-QUALITY CORRIDORS BECAUSE IF CASA PASSES, THEN TAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO BUILD MORE HOUSING. IT ACTUALLY CREATES THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR SOME COMMUNITIES.
SO FOR ME THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUTLINED IN THE LETTER. >> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> NO. >> MS. COMBS? >> FIRST, LET ME CLARIFY, I THINK WITH THE SLIP OF TONGUE YOU SAID IF CASA PASSES. AND IT IS NOT COMING BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE. >> IF IMPLEMENTED. >> IF IMPLEMENTED THROUGH THE LEGISLATIONION, SOME OF WHICH IS SAID TO BE PARALLEL TO, BUT, IN FACT DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE AND OTHER ELEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DROPPED BY LEGISLATURE. JUST TO BE CLEAR I HAVE ALREADY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AS YOUR ABAG REPRESENTATIVE BEEN WRITING LETTERS EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT ELEMENTS OF THE COMPACT, ABOUT OUR PROBLEMS IN — ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN SANTA ROSA AND THAT THEY SHOULDN'T MESS IT UP. BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT. THAT CERTAINLY OUR RED IS A VARIATION OF REGIONAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ENTITY, OUR JPA RED, AND WE DON'T NEED TO BE A PART OF ANOTHER ONE THAT WILL TAKE THE MONEY FURTHER AFIELD.
SO I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS ARE WITH REGARD TO THE COMPACT HAVING WORKED IT FROM THE INSIDE, TRYING TO IMPROVE IT. BUT I'M NOT ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE CURRENT FORM OR ABOUT THE WAY THE LEGISLATURE HAS GONE. I WILL BE INTERESTED IN HEARING THE PUBLIC'S COMMENTS. >> GREAT. THANKS. LET'S GO TO THOSE. TWO CARDS. MILES BERGEN, FOLLOWED BY DWAYNE DEWITT. >> HI MAYOR SCHWEDHELM AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY, I WANTED TO START BY FIRST THANKING EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK IN ADDRESSING THE HOUSING CRISIS. FROM YOUR ADA NEW POLICY AND PERMIT STREAMLINING TO DENSESITY BONUS TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA SPECIFIC PLAN. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY THIS COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE SANTA ROSA A MORE LIVABLE AND AFFORDABLE CITY, YOU ALL TAKE. SO WITH THAT SAID, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED AND MORE THAN A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED WHEN BY YOUR REACTION TO THE CASA COMPACT SEVERAL WEEKS BACK AND I STAND TODAY TO URGE YOU TO TREAT THIS ISSUE WITH THE TYPE OF THOUGHTFULNESS AND NUANCE THAT I THINK IT DESERVE. SO THE LETTER LAYS OUT THREE MAJOR COMPLAINTS ABOUT CASA, MANY OF WHICH THE VICE-MAYOR ALSO TLKED ABOUT.
A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH TO HOUSING, OPPOSITION TO REGIONAL APPROACH TO HOUSING, AND A LACK OF OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY UP HERE IN THE NORTH BAY. I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS EACH OF THEM. FIRST WITH [RA-RBD/]S TO OUTREACH IT'S TRUE THAT MTC AND ABAG DIDN'T FORMALLY REACH OUT TO EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN THE BAY AREA, BUT IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT EACH AND EVERY MEETING OF THE CASA [TKPA-EUBGT/] WAS COVERED BY THE BROWN ACT AND HAD AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO MEETINGS AND MKE THEIR VOICES HEARD AND GET INFORMED BY THE COMPACT. BY THEY DIDN'T. SONOMA COUNTY ALSO HAD SEVERAL MEMBERS INVOLVED AND INFORMATION IS A TWO-WAY STREET AND INACTION OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS IS NOT REASON TO STOP SOLUTIONING TO OUR HOUSING CRISIS W.
REGARDS TO THE ONE SIZE FITS ALL ARGUMENT, NOT ALREADY HAS THAT ISSUE BEEN ADDRESSED IN LEGISLATURE, BUT IT'S THE PERFECT EXAMPLE WH YOU SHOULD BE LOBBYING ON OUR BEHALF INSTEAD OF REJECTING THE COMPACT OUTRIGHT. LAST YEAR THE DEAL STRUCK BETWEEN SENATOR WEINER AND [SPEAKER NOT UNDERSTOOD] AND I URGE YOU ALL TO USE YOUR VOICES TO ENGAGE THAT PROCESS AND IMPROVE THE COMPACT. FNALLY THE ISSUE OF REGIONAL APPROACH.
NOW WHILE THE LETTER — TO POINT THE FINGER AT SAN FRANCISCO AND THE SOUTH BAY, LET'S GET A COUPLE OF THINGS STRAIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, NOT ONLY DOES HOUSING SHORTAGES THERE MAKE OUR HOUSING FOR EXPENSIVE HERE AND DESPITE YOUR BEST INTERESTS AND AGAIN, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT EVERY ONE OF YOU TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR HAS TO WORKED AND ACCORDING TO THE MOST RECENT RENA NUMBERS WE ON THE PERMITTED 2% OF OUR BELOW MARKET-RATE.
SO I ASK TO YOU STEP UP. I ASK YOU TO DO RIGHT BY THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY. I ASK YOU TO DO RIGHT BY THE WORKING AND MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILIES WHO HAVE BEEN FORCED OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY EN MASSE AND I ASK YOU TO PUT ASIDE THE POLITICS AND SUPPORT WHAT THE CASA COMPACT GETS RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. DWAYNE DEWITT. >> THANK YOU, DWAYNE DEWITT FROM ROSELAND WITHIN SANTA ROSA AND THANK THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER FOR HIS COMMENTS AND THANK YOU FOR BEGINNING TO LOOK INTO SOME OF THESE THINGS. DEVIL IS IN DTAILS. TONIGHT I WANT TO READ A PART OF THIS LETTER. SO PEOPLE HEAR AND KNOW WHAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT IN A SENSE. THIS LETTER FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASSOCIATION AND THE MAYORS, STATES EARTHQUAKES WE UNDERSTAND WHY OUR REGIONAL PLAN HAS BEEN PREPARED, BUT WE D NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE PROCESS TO DEVELOP THAT PLAN FAILED TO INCLUDE OUTREACH, AND MEANINGFUL FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIES WHO WILL BE AFFECTED.
WE SUPPORT CREATIVE AND BOLD ACTION TO ADDRESS THE BAY AREA'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS. SINCE THE MID-1990S THE SONOMA COUNTY HOUSING ADVOCACY POINT HAS POINTED OUT THAT SANTA ROSA HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDING MUCH IN THE WAY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING." THOSE RECORDS ARE VALUABLE TO AVAILABLE TO YOU AND I JUST WANT TO BASEED ONS WHAT MR. ROGERS SAID SANTA ROSA IS NOT A NIMBY TYPE OF PLACE. WHEN DID THAT CHANGE? IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A NIMBY PLACE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WE NEED TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AREA IN 1984, 264 ACHES WE ARE JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY AGREEMENT WEN THE CITY AND COUNTY, WHICH MAY STILL EXIST AND NOW THAT SAME LAND, ALTHOUGH REDEVELOPMENT ISN'T HERE HAS BEEN RECLASSIFIED AS THE ROSELAND OPPORTUNITY ZONE WITH SOME MORE LAND ADDED TO IT.
SO WOULD ONE THING THE APPROACH TO HAVE TESE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS, BUT AS THE SPEAKER BEFORE WE WHO I NEVER MET BEFORE POINTED OUT ONLY 2% OF THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATIONS ARE BEING MET FOR BELOW MARKET-RATE HOUSING AND THESE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES MIGHT NEED THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. WE'RE IN A DILEMMA AND I HOPE THAT YU FOLKS WILL LOOK BACK INTO SOME OF THE PAST. IN 2004 AN OPPORTUNITIS AND CHALLENGES STUDY FOR ROSELAND WAS TURNED INTO THE COUNCIL AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MAYOR BENDER, SUPERVISOR RILEY POINTED OUT HOW TO DO POSITIVE THINGS IN ROSELAND, BUT APPARENTLY WAS SAT ON, AND WASN'T REALLY ACTED UPON.
SOMEWHERE IN THE RECORDS. PEOPLE ARE KNOWN ABOUT THESE APPROACHES TO GET MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTO AREAS SUCH AS ROSELAND, WHICH IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOPERS NOW. BUT WHAT ABOUT US FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE AND NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOW? WRK WITH THE STATE, MAKE POSITIVE THINGS HAPPEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU DWAYNE. MR. VICE-MAYOR? >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT I DO AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT MILES JUST SAID. IN PARTICULAR, WAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TONIGHT IS DISPATCH WITH THE CASA COMPACT AS A WHOLE, AND MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF BEING ABLE TO DISCUSS EACH INDIVIDUAL PIECE OF LEGISLATION. AND IN PARTICULAR, WHY I LAID-OUT THOSE THREE SORT OF ATTRIBUTES FROM WHERE I THINK THAT TE CASA COMPACT FALLS SHORT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS TE MAYORS PARTICULARLY AT THE END OF SESSION, WHEN THERE ISN'T MUCH TIME TO BE ABLE TO STILL TAKE — TAKE STEPS BASED ON THE DIRECTION BEING DIFFERENT FROM COUNCIL.
I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THE CASA COMPACT, I WALKED THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE IN TERMS INCENTIVIZING HOUSING AND AGAIN, MY CONCERNS WERE ABOUT DECREASE IN PUBLIC TRANSIT, FINANCING AND KEEPING OUR DOLLARS HERE LOCALLY AND ALSO MAKING SURE IT'S NOT JUST A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. >> SO I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL TO GIVE ME GENERAL DIRECTION AND START WTH ONE SIDE AND GO AROUND. MR. TIBBETTS, IF I COULD HEAR YOUR COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR ? I THINK I PRETTY MUCH COMMUNICATED MY COMMENTS WHICH REMAIN UNCHANGED. DO SUPPORT WHAT THE CASA IMPACT IS TRYING TO DO, BUT A BIG CONCERN NOW THAT THE RENEWAL ENTERPRISE DISTRICT IS DOING AND WHAT I THIS ENTITY COMES IN WITH A PROPERTY TAX OVER THE NINE-BAY AREA COUNTIS OR WHOEVER IS PARTICIPATING AND WE HAVE AN ISSUE THERE? SO IREALLY WANT TO STAY WITH THE COURSE WITH A RENEWAL ENTERPRISE DISTRICT AND ACHIEVING THE SAME GOALS THAT THE CASA COMPACT, BUT HERE ON A LOCAL-LEVEL THAT IS FOCUSED AND BASICALLY DESIGNED FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT YOU SIGNING THE LETTER? >> IN OPPOSITION TO CASA COMPACT? >> CORRECT. >> THANK YOU. MS. FLEMING. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. GENERALLY SPEAKING MOST O THE ELEMENTS IN THE CASA COMPACT I BELIEVE I OUR BENEFIT. HOWEVER,, GIVEN THE COMMUNITY'S RESPONSE TO MEASURE N IN THE FALL, AS WELL AS OUR OWN EFFORTS AT HOME TO GET HOUSING STOCK REBUILT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ALL ELEMENTS ARE ADVANTAGEOUS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND I WOULD SUPPORT YOU SIGNING THE LETTER OF OPPOSITION. >> THANK YOU. MS. COMBS. >> IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT WE'RE DOING THIS INSTEAD OF DISCUSSING THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE'RE NOT SENDING A SIGNAL TO THE MAYOR THAT HE MAY ACCEPT INDIVIDUAL ELEMENTS OF THE COMPACT AS IT'S GOING THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE WITHOUT A PRIOR DISCUSSION HERE. IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE SUPPOSED PROBLEM COMING FORWARD, WHICH IS THAT AS THE LEGISLATURE GETS CLOSE TO THE END, THERE IS A QUICK TURNAROUND TIME AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PUT OUR TWO CENTS IN.
SO I HOPE THAT THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE WILL COME BACK WITH AN EXPLANATION OF WHICH OF THE PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING? SO THAT WE CAN HAVE REGIONAL AND STATEWIDE IMPROVEMENTS I OUR HOUSING STOCK. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ELEMENTS THAT ARE MOVING THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE NOW THAT ARE NOT — THAT THE COMPACT HAS A SET OF ELEMENTS THAT ARE LOOKING LIKE THEY ARE NOT GOING MAKE IT THROUGH LEGISLATURE AND THOSE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT REALLY KEPT ME INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. I WAS VERY WILLING TO TRADE SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS THAT WERE LIKELY TO CREATE DISPLACEMENT OF MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, IF THEY HAD PROTECTIONS THAT INCLUDED JUST CAUSE FOR EVICTION AD RENT CAPS.
SO BECAUSE THE RENT CAPS AND THE JUST CAUSE FOR EVICTION ARE NO LONGER MOVING THE SAME WAY IN THE CAPABILITY, PEOPLE ARE MORE VULNERABLE TO BEING DISPLACED FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHICH I KNOW SOUNDS LIKE AN ODD PARADOX, BUT HAS BEEN SHOWN TO HAPPEN. SO I HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THAT. SO I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT WE ARE DOING IS SAYING NO TO THIS PACKAGE WITHOUT SAYING YES TO INDIVIDUAL ELEMENTS WITHIN THE PACKAGE. BECAUSE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE FACT IT WAS A PACKAGE IS WHY I WAS WORKING ON IT. SO SINCE THE LEGISLATURE HAS TAKEN THE PACKAGE APART, I'M NOT — I'M SAYIN DO SIGN AGAINST THE COMPACT, BUT PLEASE BE CLEAR THAT THAT IS NOT A STATEMENT THAT I SUPPORT INDIVIDUAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE GING THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE NOW, THAT ARE NOT A PACKAGE.
THANK YOU. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, THE QUESTION WILL B BEFORE ME WITH THE MAYORS AND COUNCILS AND I FULLY ANTICIPATE A LETTER ABOUT THE CASA COMPACT AND THAT IS THE DIRECTION. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC LEGISLATION AS THOSE OF US IN SACRAMENTO LAST WEEK LEARNED THAT THE LEGISLATION TO YOUR POINT, IS STILL EVOLVING. SO THERE IS NO DISCUSSION OF THE SPECIFICS OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES OF LEGISLATION BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE YET. >> IF IT'S HELPFUL — >> I HAVE ALREADY NOT SIGNED THE COMPACT FOR OUR REGION. SO IT FEELS REDUNDANT. >> IF IT'S HELPFUL FOR A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL CONTEXT, TOO. WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS WELL NOW BEYOND THE POLICY COMMITTEE FOR FISCAL BILLS. THE DEADLINE, I BELIEVE IS THIS WEEK.
IT WILL ALL GO INTO THE FISCAL SUSPENSION FILE AND THE FIRST HOUSE AND THEN YOU HAVE WHAT IS CALLED THE HOUSE OF ORIGIN DEADLINE, AND IT'S ALSO THE GREAT BARRIER THAT FILTERS OUT A LT OF LEGISLATION IN SACRAMENTO. BECAUSE THESE WILL ALL BE BILLS THAT ARE WORKING THEIR WAY COMPLETELY THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THAT MEANS PROBABLY THE BEGINNING OF AGUST IS ABOUT WHEN WE'LL START TO SEE WHICH BILLS HAVE COMPLETELY DIED AND WHICH HAVE A CHANCE OF PASSING RELATED TO THE CASA IMPACT? SO WHAT I CAN COMMIT TO THE COUNCIL IS THROUGH THE MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS' ASSOCIATION I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE YOU MONTHLY UPDATES ON WHICH BILLS ARE STILL MOVING THAT WE WOULD EVENTUALLY NEED TO GOOD MORE RIGID GNEISS UIDANCE TO THE MAYOR AND WHICH HAVE BEEN KILLED.
I THINK MY DIRECTION WAS PRETTY CLEAR. >> MR. SAWYER. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WHILE I AGREE WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH A LETTER, I KNOW THERE IS A LOOT OF WORK THAT WILL BE GOING ON IN SACRAMENTO ANYWAY. THERE IS A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH NOT JUST THREE, BUT THE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THE FUNDING MECHANISM, THOSE ARE HARDLY WORKED OUT. SO IT'S NOTHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO KEEP US UP TO SPEED ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN SACRAMENTO. ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T ADDRESS ALL MY CONCERNS I THINK THIS LETTER OF CONCERN FROM THE MAYOR, I THINK AT LEAST PUTS THEM ONNOTICE THAT WE'RE NOT EMBRACING THIS ENTIRELY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. OLIVARES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK WHAT WE KNOW TODAY, I WOULD SUPPORT THE LETTER OF OPPOSITION. >> THANK YOU. SO DIRECTION IS PRETTY CLEAR. JST FROM MY OWN PERSPECTIVE, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A LETTER-WRITING CAMPAIGN AND WE SHOULD STAY OUT UNTIL THE LEGISLATURE COMES THROUGH, BECAUSE AS MR.
ROGERS SAID PROBABLY AUGUST WE'LL GET MORE CONCRETE DETAILS. I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE FEEDBACK AND I THINK THE MORE TIMES THAT WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATIONS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO CHOOSE TO LISTEN AND PAY ATTENTION TO THESE DISCUSSIONS IS VERY HELPFUL THERE IS NO SURPRISES. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM 11.3.1. MS. COMBS THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> IF I MAY, COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS? THIS WILL BE AT NEXT TUESDAY'S MEETING.
THERE WLL BE A TIER 1 PRIORITY DISCUSSION AND THEN THERE WILL BE A CALENDAR ATTACHED WHAT I CAN SAY IS IN THAT CALENDAR IS A SCHEDULE DATE THAT THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED FOR THIS ITEM. SO ITEM JUST — THAT IS JUST FOR CONTEXT AND AGAIN THERE IS A DATE AND THE DATE IS THE CALENDAR IN GENERAL AND THE PLAN IS UP FOR DISCUSSION NEXT WEEK. >> LET ME CLARIFY, WE'RE INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE $15 CITYWIDE MINIMUM WAGE AND THE TIER DISCUSSION THAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT WEEK WILL INCLUDE THE CONVERSATION OF MOVING THAT FORWARD? >> SO THERE'S A CALENDAR — >> SO WE DON'T NEED TO DO IT TODAY? >> I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A SCHEDULED DATE HAS BEEN PUT INTO A CALENDAR THAT WAS A DISCUSSION AT THE COMMITTEE-LEVEL AND THAT WILL BE UP FOR REVIEW NEXT WEEK JUST SO — JUST FOR CONTEXT PURPOSES.
>> IF I CHOOSE TO NOT MOVE FORWARD TODAY, CAN THIS ITEM COME BACK OR DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN? >> IT WILL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION NEXT TUESDAY. THE DATE — THERE'S GOING TO BE A DATE COMMITMENT IN THE CALENDAR ON NEXT TUESDAY. >> AND WHAT IS THE TENTATIVE DATE? >> I CN'T — IT'S MID-JULY. THERE'S ACTUALLY A DATE THAT HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO THIS. BUT THERE'S A CONVERSATION — AGAIN WE'RE STARTING TO DRIFT INTO A NON-AGENDIZED CONVERSATION BECAUSE TODAY YOU WOULD BE VOTING TO AGENDIZED. I WILL JUST PUT OUT THAT DATE AND CALENDAR IS COMING BACK NEXT WEEK. >> IF I MAY TO CLARIFY FOR COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS IS THAT YES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, YOU COULD CONTINUE THIS ITEM T A MEETING FOLLOWING NEXT WEEK'S MEETING.
SO IF YOU ARE NOT SATISFIED AT NEXT WEEK'S MEETING YOU COULD RAISE IT AGAIN. >> THAT SEEMS TO BE TO BE APPROPRIATE TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO THE MEETING FOLLOWING NEXT WEEK'S MEETING IN CASE THERE'S AN ISSUE AT NEXT WEEK'S MEETING. I WILL REMIND COUNCIL THAT PART OF WHAT IS BEHIND US IS THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY VOTED FOR BY MORE THAN FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BY THE FALL OF LAST YEAR. AND SOMEHOW NEVER GOT AGENDIZED.
SO I HAVE ANXIETY ABOUT AGREEING TO AGENDAIZE IT AND THEN IT NOT COMING UP. >> AND THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE. I JUST WANTED — YOU WILL SEE A FULL CALENDAR OF DATES AND YOU WILL SEE A SCHEDULE AND SOME DELIVERABLES AND THAT MAY BE THE CONTEXT UNDER WHICH YOU WANT TO LOOK AT. >> BEFORE I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS DO THE INDIVIDUALS WO WISH TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM ARE THEY ALLOWED TO SPEAK TODAY? I'M HEARING YES. >> THAT WOULD BE — IT WOULD BE UP TO THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION TO ALLOW, BUT NORMALLY — [ INAUDIBLE ] WHEN WE CONTINUE AN ITEM, WE DO NOT TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THAT ITEM.
WE WOULD WAIT UNTIL THE CONTINUED DATE. >> I JUST SEE PEOPLE HERE, WITH A SUSPECT HERE WITH KIDS AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY COULD — I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S FORBEARANCE IN HEARING FOLKS. >> MR. ROGERS. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I TRANSLATE AND THAT I HEARD CORRECTLY AND THAT THE PUBLIC HEARS CORRECTLY. IF WE VOTED TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY, BUT WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS AGENDIZING A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT DAY WE'RE GOING HEAR THIS ITEM. AND REGARDLESS, NEXT TUESDAY WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION OR WE CAN VOTE ON WHAT DAY WE'RE HEARING THIS ITEM? >> WELL, AGAIN, WE WILL PUBLISH A CALENDAR AND YOU WILL HVE THAT DISCUSSION. ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE CORVALL CALENDAR AND WE FIGURED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND IN LIGHT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO GO THERETO THROUGH AND THERE IS A CALENDAR AND TO MOVE FORWARD, WAT THE RAMIFICATIONS WOULD BE.
SO WHAT ELSE WOULD GET DELAYED AND THAT IS PART OF WHAT THIS FIRST PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS NEXT WEEK. >> OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE SO FLOCKS HAVE A CHANCE TO COME NEXT WEEK AND VOTE OF COUNCIL WHERE IT GOES . YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT HAS BEEN SCHEDULED ON THE CALENDAR, YES. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I DO WANT TO ALLOW THE FOLKS THAT HAVE SHOWED UP TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR OUR NEXT STEPS. FIRST SPEAKER DWAYNE DEWITT, FOLLOWED BY GEORGE BARDY. GEORGE, FOLLOWED BY MARIA GARCIA. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS IS THE MOST LIKED DRY HUMPING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GET TO OUR RELATIONSHIP TO HAVING A $15 MINIMUM WAGE.
I WANT TO SAY $15 WAS TEN YEARS AGO. ALL RIGHT? LIKE POSSIBLY BECAUSE THIS IS OUR APPROACH TO GETTING A MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION. NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE MINIMUM WAGE NEEDS TO GO UP? OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS TO GO UP. EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING UP. HOUSING IS GOING UP. INFLATION IS GOING UP. EVERYTHING ELSE MOVES, THE MINIMUM WAGE STAYS RIGHT WHERE IT IS. THE MINIMUM WAGE FOR SOME REASON WE'RE CONFUSED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD MOVE, WHEN ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ELSE TAKES OFF LIKE A ROCKET SHIP AND THIS IS RIDICULOUS. YOUR OWN SALARIES DO NOTHING OF THE SORT. YOUR OWN SALARIS ARE TIED TO INFLATION, AND COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS. YOU ALL GET. I DON'T KNOW WHY FOR SOME REASON WE HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING ABOUT A MEETING ABOUT A MEETING TO GET ANYTHING LOOKED AT FOR WHAT WE GET PAID? ALL RIGHT? SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS INSTEAD OF DRY HUMPING OUR WAY THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
ALL RIGHT? NOW THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, OKAY? THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA HAS AN IT DEPARTMENT. ALL RIGHT? THE COUNTY OF SONOMA HAS AN IT DEPARTMENT, OKAY? AND THOSE I.T. DEPARTMENTS COLLECT TONS O INFORMATION. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU GUYS, BUT THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION THEY COULD POSSIBLY NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE HOURLY WAGE OF AVERAGE PERSON NEEDS TO BE TO LIVE HERE. ALL RIGHT? AND WE CAN GET THAT NUMBER. WE CN GET A VERY RELIABLE, VERY SCIENTIFICALLY PROVABLE MONEY IF YOU DON'T MAKE THIS MONEY, YOU CAN'T LIVE HERE. YOU SLOWLY DIE HERE AND DON'T LIVE HERE. SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A LIVING WAGE AND WE NEED TO GIVE TO PEOPLE. IF WE CAN'T AFFORD, IT IT'S YOUR FAULT BECAUSE YOU ARE GOVERNMENT AND YOU NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT. YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT YOUR MISTAKE ON OUR SHOULDERS ALL RIGHT? YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE IN THIS CITY GET A LIVING WAGE, THAT PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR A LIVING WITH LIVE HERE AND IF THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE WAY THE CITY WORKS, THEN YOU NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT? BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR JOB.
ALL RIGHT? WE DO OUR JOBS, OKAY? WE DESERVE TO LIVE. OKAY? THAT IS ABOUT THE LEAST CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENT YOU COULD PROBABLY MAKE, ALL RIGHT? SO THE REST OF IT; RIGHT? IF IT'S COMPLICATED, IF IT'S HARD AND WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING ABOUT A MEETING ABOUT A MEETING, ALL RIGHT, I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY? I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT AND WE NEED TO LIVE, OKAY? AND ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT IS YOU SLOWLY KILLING US AND YOU DON'T GET TO DO THAT. THAT IS NOT WHAT GOVERNMENT IS. PLEASE FIGURE IT OUT. THANK YOU. >> MARIA GARCIA, FOLLOWED BY BONNIE PETTY. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS MARIA AND I'M THE LEAD ORGANIZER OF JOBS FOR JUSTICE.
SO NORTH BAY JOBS FR JUSTICE URGES THAT THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA TO AGENDIZE A STUDY SESSION THAT IS PROPOSING $15 MINIMUM WAGE, BUT NO LATER THAN JUNE 18TH. WHY? BECAUSE AS JULIE COMBS MENTIONED THE MAJORITY WHO VOTED TO AGENDAIZE THE STUDY SESSION REMAIN IN CITY COUNCIL AND THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING T — YOU KNOW, CHOOSE A DATE TO HAVE THE STUDY SESSION AND OF COURSE, HAVE THAT HAPPEN >> SECOND, THE NORTH BAY LABOR COUNCIL AND NORTH BAY JOBS FOR JUSTICE AND ALLIANCE FOR JUST RECOVERY HAVE INTRODUCED MINIMUM WAGE LEGISLATION SIMULTANEOUSLY TO SIX CITIES IN THE NORTH BAY INCLUDING NOVATO, PETALUMA, SEBASTOPOL, COTATI AND CITY OF SAN JOSÉ AND SANTA ROSA AND TO ESTABLISH $15 MINIMUM WAGE BY 2020, THREE YEARS THAN THE STATE MINIMUM, WHICH REACHES 215.
SO WE WOULD LIKE ALL SIX NORTH BAY CITIS TO MOVE FORWARD ON SIMILAR TIMELINE AND IMPLEMENT COMPARABLE MINIMUM WAGE LEGISLATION. SEBASTOPOL, THE CITY OF SONOMA, PETALUMA AND COTATI HAVE COMPLETED MINIMUM WAGE STUDY SESSIONS AND THE CITY OF NOVATO IS SCHEDULEDING TO HOLD A STUDY SESSION THE FOLLOWING MONTHS. SO WE BELIEVE BOTH THE CITIES OF SONOMA AND PETALUMA WILL IMPLEMENT $15 MINIMUM WAGE LEGISLATION IN THE NXT 6-8 WEEKS AND WE NEED THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA TO SCHEDULE IT AND START THE PROCESS OF CONSIDERING A MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE AS SOON AS POB. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME I BONNY PETTY THE ADMINISTRATOFF ASSISTANT FOR NORTH BAY JOBS FOR JUSTICE AND SANTA ROSA RESIDENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER ADDITIONAL REASONS WHY JOBS FOR JUSTICE IS URGING TO AGENDIZE A STUDY SESSION ON THE MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
JEWEL JULY SEEMS LIKE A LNG WAY AWAY GOALS THAT THIS COUNCIL JUST RECENTLY SET. THOSE GOALS ARE ADDRESSING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS, AND THE CLIMATE CRISIS. WE DO NOT BELIEVE THERE IS A SINGLE PROPOSED POLICY THAT CAN ADEQUATELY ADDRESS EITHER OF THESE CRISES. THE CITY MUST DEVELOP COMPREHENSIVE MULTI- PRONGED PLANS TO ADDRESS THESE. ACCORDING TO OUR REPORT, STATE OF WORKING SONOMA 2018, WHICH EACH OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED AND AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AT NORTH BAY JOBS OF JUSTICE.ORG BETWEEN 2000 AND 2016, MEDIAN RENTS JUMPED BY MORE THAN 35% IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TUBBS FIRE.
HOWEVER, DURING THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME, MEDIAN RENTER HOUSEHOLD INCOME INCREASED BY ONLY 9%. MAKING MATTERS WORSE, FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SONOMA COUNTY HAS BEEN SLASHED BY $42 MILLION EVER YEAR SINCE 2008. A REDUCTION OF 89% AND I'M SURE NONE OF THIS IS NEWS TO YOU. BUT TO ADDRESS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS WE MUST SIMULTANEOUSLY INCREASE STATE AND LOCAL FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND RAISE THE WAGE FLOOR. BECAUSE THIS CAN HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY. HOUSING TAKES YEARS. OUR PROPOSED $15 MINIMUM WAGE LAW WILL AFFECT THOUSANDS OF WORKERS IN SANTA ROSA AND RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE IS THE FASTEST WAY TO MAKE HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE AND WHEN PHASED INTO $25 [#1R5*-/] BY 2020 THE HOUSEHOLD INCOME WILL INCREASE BY $2900 PER YEAR ACCORDING TO THE UC LABOR CENTER AND CUTTING THE COMMUTE TIMES AND TRAFFIC CONGESTION. IT'S NOT LIKELY THEY ARE DRIVING NEW HYBRIDS AND TRANSPORTATION ACCOUNTS FOR MORE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAN ANY OTHER SECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA ECONOMY, AND BOOSTING THE MINIMUM WAGE IS PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE COMPLIMENT CRISIS AND WE'RE URGING TO PLEASE AGENDIZE THE STUDY ON THE MINIMUM WAGE ORDINANCE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. JACK BUCKHORN. >> GOOD EVENING HONORABLE MAYOR AND STAFF I'M THE ED OF THE NORTH BAY LABOR COUNCIL AND I'M HERE O ADVOCATE — I THINK ON THIS STUDY SESSION WE CAN EASILY HELP ADDRESS THAT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS FIRST PREPARATION FOR JOBS WITH JUSTICE AND THE NORTH BAY LABOR COUNCIL HAVE ALREADY COMMISSIONED BY A REPORT BY THE UC BERKELEY LABOR CENTER ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF $15 MINIMUM WAGE IN THE NORTH BAY AND IT WAS PUBLISHED JUST LAST FALL. ALSO ONE OF THE UC BERKELEY RESEARCHERS CAN BE HERE TO GO OVER THE SUMMARY OF THE REPORT. ALSO, WE HAD ATTORNEYS FOR THE CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF CITIES HAVE DEVELOPED A COMPREHENSIVE MEMORANDUM ABOUT THE LEGAL ISSUES AND BEST PRACTICES FOR CITIES CONSIDERING MUNICIPAL MINIMUM WAGE LAWS. AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN REVIEW THAT. SO A LOT OF THAT WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE AND IN ADDITION, ATTORNEYS FOR JOBS WITH JUSTICE HAVE DEVELOPED COMPLETE PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR OUR MINIMUM WAGE LAW WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED IN OTHER CITIES SUCH AS CUPERTINI, AND OTHERS AND ALL ARE LOCATED IN HIGH-COST COASTAL CALIFORNIA AND SAN FRANCISCO MANDATES $15 AND ALREADY DOING IT AND EIGHT SANTA CLARA CITIES APPROVED BY 2019 AND FIVE SAN MATEO CTIS HAVE REQUIRED $15 BY 2020 AND THE CITY AND COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES, SANTA MONICA, PASADENA AND LONG BEACH AND NUMEROUS CITIES — AND MOST RECENTLY THE CITIES OF ALAMEDA, FREMONT HAVE APPROVED $15 BY 2020.
IT REALLY IS TIME FOR SANTA ROSA TO MOVE FORWARD AND CONSIDER A $15 MINIMUM WAGE AND TO PLAY A LEADING ROLE IN THE REGIONAL MINIMUM WAGE CAMPAIGN. AND LET ME JUST STOP AND ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WHY THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE ALREADY? I THINK YOU KNOW, BUT I WILL LET THE PUBLIC KNOW IT'S PAYBACK FOR THE LABOR COUNCIL NOT SUPPORTING THE MEASURE H BOND MEASURE AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT POLITICS PLAYS A ROLE IN SOME OF THESE THINGS. BUT THAT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED. IT'S TIME TO PUT POLITICS ASIDE AND PUT PEOPLE FIRST. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO AND THE LOWEST WAGE WORKERS THAT LIVE IN SONOMA COUNTY ARE BEING DRIVEN OUT AT AN INCREDIBLE RATE, AND WE CAN PUT MONEY IN THEIR POCKET RIGHT NOW.
HELP THEM AFFORD RENT, HELP THEM PAY GROCERIES, HELP THEM BUY INSURANCE AND MAYBE NOT HAVE FOUR FAMILIES PER HOME AND MAYBE ONLY THREE YOU CAN DO THAT AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. PUT THE POLITICS ASIDE AND LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. ALL WE'RE ASKING IS TO TALK ABOUT IT AND WE NEED A DATE-CERTAIN AND IF WE COULD DO THAT WE WOULD BE MUCH GRATEFUL. >> THANK YOU. I I COULD JUST ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY, COULD YOU PROVIDE US WITH WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE AT THIS POINT? >> AT THIS POINT IN TERMS OF THIS ITEM, YOU MAY EITHER ACT ON IT, AND THIS MOVES IT TO — YOU ALREADY HAD THE MOTION AND THE SECOND. SO THIS IS THE TIME TO SET THE MINIMUM WAGE ISSUE ONTO THE CALENDAR WOULD BE THE REQUEST OF THE COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT ON THE CALENDAR. SO YOU COULD TAKE THAT ACTION. YOU COULD CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL YOU HEAR NEXT WEEK'S PRIORITY-SETTING AND WORK PLAN, AND SEE IF YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH THAT WORK PLAN? WHICH AS THE CITY MANAGER INDICATES DOES SET A DATE FOR A HEARING ON MINIMUM WAGE MEASURE.
OR YOU CAN VOTE TO DENY IT. >> THANK YOU. MS. CEMETERIS. Y COMBS. >> DO WE NEED TO VOTE TO CONTINUE IT? >> YOU CAN AND THE MAYOR HAS THE OPTION TO AGREE TO THAT CONTINUANCE. >> I THINK I WOULD REQUEST TO CONTINUE IT. >> SOUND GOODS TO ME. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SPEAKING WE'LL SEE YOU ALL NEXT WEEK. >> ITEM 11.4. SEVERAL OF US INTERVIEWED TWO FOLKS FOR THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND I HAVE ASKED THE CITY CLERK TO DO A ROLL-CALL VOTE SINCE WE ONLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS? WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE COUNCIL TO SEE WHICH OF THE TWO IS THEIR PREFERENCE? MADAM CITY CLERK.
>> THANK YOU, THE TWO APPLICANTS ARE DENICE DENEAU AND JANICE MCCULLOCH AND I WILL DO A ROLL-CALL VOTE AND VOTE FOR ONE CANDIDATE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS? >> DENISE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING? >> DENISE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OLIVARES? >> MCCULLOCH. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAWYER? >> DENISE. >> VICE-MAYOR ROGERS? >> DID DENISE.
>> MAYOR SCHEFFIELD? SCHWEDHELM. >> DENISE DENEAU APPOINTED AS BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE APPROVAL MINUTES? ANY CORRECTIONS? I'M >> I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM TWO OF THOSE, FEBRUARY 22ND AND MAYOR 12TH. MARCH [#12*-R7B8G9/]. THOSE ARE ACCEPTED. SPECIAL MEETING NOTE NIZ CORRECTIONS? >> NO? >> ANY ASTENTIONS? THOSE WILL BE APPROVED. ITEM 12.3 MARCH 5TH SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES, ANY CORRECTIONS? >> DID DENISE. THOSE ARE APPROVED. — I WILL ABSTAIN AND M. COMBS. MR. MCGLYNN CONSENT ITEM . } ITEM 13.1 RESOLUTION, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE FILE AND EXECUTION OF AN APPLICATION FOR FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION LOW OR NO EMISSION BUS PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019 AND APPROPRIATING ANY NECESSARY MATCHING FUNDS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ANY CARDS? NO CARDS. MR. ROGERS? >> I WILL MOVE ITEM 13.1 AND WAIVE FURTHER READING OF THE TEXT. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. ISH AN THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT, SAY THAT AGAIN? NORMA FOLLOWED BY DWAYNE DEWITT >> GOOD EVENING. I'M A MEMBER OF THE OAKMONT COMMUNITY AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE 20 YEARS. AND LIKE THEY SAY AT NASA, HOUSTON, WE HAVE GOT A PROBLEM. AND WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM IN OAK MONT AND IT'S SPEEDING. AND I'S A DANGER TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS THERE AND WE NEED SOME ACTION TAKEN.
WE HAVE BEEN TO THE SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE BEEN TO THE SHERIFF. WE HAVE BEEN TO THE HIGHWAY PATROL. WE HAVE BEEN TO THE HOMEOWNERS' ASSOCIATION AND NOBODY I DOING ANYTHING ABOUT OUR PROBLEM. OAKMONT DRIVE IS THREE MILES LONG. THERE ARE OVER 500 HMES ON OAKMONT DRIVE. WE HAVE ONE STOP SIGN AFTER YOU LEAVE BURGER CENTER, WE HVE ONE STOP SIGN AND ONE CROSSWALK. WHAT KIND OF A FOOL WOULD DESIGN A THREE-MILE LONG MAIN DRIVEWAY THROUGH A RETIRED COMMUNITY WITH ONE STOP SIGN AND ONE CROSSWALK? SO WE NEED THREE THINGS AS QUICKLY AS PSSIBLE IN OAKMONT FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR RESIDENTS: WE NEED MORE MONITORING BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE THERE — THANK YOU.
WE NEED MORE STOP SIGNS TO SLOW TRAFFIC THROUGH THE THREE-MILE STRETCH, AND WE NEED POLICE THERE TO TICKET AND WARN PEOPLE THAT THIS IS A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT AN ADDENDUM TO HIGHWAY 12. WE HAVE 1600 TO 2200 CARS THAT USE OAKMONT EVERY DAY FROM 7:00 IN THE MORNING UNTIL 8:00 IN THE EVENING. IN MY FRONT YARD, ON OAKMONT DRIVE, A FEW YEARS AGO, A SPEEDER CAME THROUGH THE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY, MY NEIGHBOR AND HIS TWO NEIGHBORS BEFORE THE CAR WAS STOPPED BY AN OD JUNIPER HEDGE. SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM THERE ONGOING AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE CANNOT REDUCE THE TRAFFIC SPEED UP THERE, AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE CROSSWALKS? IF YOU BELONG TO OAKMONT, YOU HAVE TO STAY ON THIS SIDE. OR YOU HAVE TO STAY ON THIS SIDE. YOU CANNOT WALK ACROSS SAFELY TO GO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. WHO DESIGNED THIS THREE MILES WITHOUT A CROSSWALK? ONE CROSSWALK. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE 10 OR 15 RESIDENTS THAT LIKE TO USE THEIR GOLF CARTS ON OAKMONT DRIVE, AND THE SPEED LIMIT SAT IS AT 25 MILES PER HOUR THAT IS GOOD FOR THEM, BUT FOR THE OTHER 3,000 PEOPLE IT'S NOT SAFE.
>> THANK YOU, NORMA. DWAYNE IS NOT HERE. DEANNA. DEANNA IS FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL HILLBERT. >> HELLO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR SERVICE. I HAVE MET A FEW OF THIS THIS PAST MONTH AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR MY FAMILY'S HEALTH DETRIMENTS TO CELL TOWER PLACEMENT NEAR OUR HOMES. I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE EXTREMELY BUSY AND SINCE I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK YOU REGARDING THE SOLUTION I PROPOSED TO YOU APRIL 14TH, I WANTED TO COME HERE AND TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO FOLLOW-UP.
FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOU YOU TRULY FOR THE PAUSE THAT YOU ENACTED ON ANY NEW CELL TOWER PLACEMENT. I GATHER THAT AS YOU UNDERSTOOD IT, YOU HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE METAL CITY HOLES, BUT NOT THE PG&E WOODEN POLES THAT WHY R THE NAMER OF RESIDENTIAL ZONES. I ALSO UNDERSTANDS YOU WERE WILLING TO PROTECT THE ZONE OFS THEREFORE WE HAVE A PRECEDENT TO UTILIZE LEGALLY TO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS FROM NEW SMALL CELL TOWERS BEING ERECTED.
WE ARE HERE RESPECTFULLY TO ASSIST IN ANY WAY WE CAN AS PARENTS, HOMEOWNERS, PROFESSIONALS AND RESIDENTS OF THIS WONDERFUL CITY WE CALL HOME IN SAFEGUARDING OUR NEIGHBORS. LOCALLY N OUR OWN COUNTY, PETALUMA, SEBASTOPOL AND SONOMA — THE INDUSTRY CAN STILL INSTALL WIRELESS COMMUNICATION FACILITIS IN CERTAIN DESIGNS CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS DESIGNED TO PROTECT RESIDENTS. AT THIS POINT CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT DECISION SUPPORT US WHILE WE WAIT OUT THE RULING IN THE 9TH CIRCUIT COURT O APPEALS. ONCE THE LINES ARE CONNECTED THE POLES BECOME FEDERAL JURISDICTION AND WE HAVE NO SAY. HOWEVER, LIKE NOW WE ARE DEALING WITH SOLELY THE PHYSICAL POLE AND WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION. THANK YOU SO GREATLY FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE AND SUSPECT OF OUR GREAT CITY AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING MY STREET AND MY HOME. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING BACK FROM YOU, IN SINCERITY AND GRATITUDE. >> MICHAEL HILL BERT SANTA ROSA. I HAVE BEEN FINDING A LOT OF THESE LAYING AROUND IN PARKING LOTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. THIS IS AN EMPTY BUTANE CAN AND THIS CAME FROM THE SHUDDERED SIZZLER — I HAVE SEEN THEM LAYING IN THE FOOD MAX PARKING LOT AND ALL OVER THE PARKING LOT NEAR THE LIQUOR STORE AND AMONGST EMPTY VODKA BOTTLES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
WHAT CAN THESE BUTANE CANISTERS BE USED FOR? WELL, YOU CAN EXTRACT OIL WITH THEM. THERE IS YOUTUBE VIDEO THAT SHOWS YOU HOW DO THAT, BUT I REALLY THINK THE MOST LIKELY EXPLANATION IS THAT IT'S USED TO REFILL THE TORCHLIGHTERS WHICH ARE IDEAL IF YOU WANT TO SMOKE METHAMPHETAMINE YOU GET A BUTANE TORCHLIGHTER. THAT IS WHAT I THINK THEY ARE BEING USED FOR. AND TO SUPPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF METHAMPHETAMINE LIKE PANHANDLING IN FRONT OF FAST-FOOD RESTAURANTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, NOT JUST — WIRED AND EXHIBITING THE CHARACTERISTICS OF BEING VERY HIGH OF METHAMPHETAMINE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT THIS? MY SUGGESTION IS THAT THE BEST HOUSING FOR METHAMPHETAMINE USERS ON THE STREETS WOULD BE THE COUNTY JAIL. IT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR THEM. AND YOU SHOULD SEND A MESSAGE TO THEM THAT EITHER STAY OFF DRUGS OR GET THE HELL OUT OF SONOMA COUNTY BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED METHAMPHETAMINE USERS HERE. WHEN YOU GO HOME TONIGHT OR MAYBE TOMORROW MORNING YOU WILL SEE IN THE NEWS THAT IN UKIAH A WOMAN WAS A VICTIM OF AN ATTACK BY A BRICK AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DO WHEN THEY USE SO MANY DRUGS, A YOUNG PUNK, LET'S GET THA OUT THERE, TOO.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY USE SO MUCH DRUGS THAT THEY BECOME DERANGED AND PARANOID AND DELUSIONAL, UNPROVOKED ATTACKS ON COMPLETE STRANGERS. >> THANK YOU. ELIZABETH FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL SWANSON FRANK. >> NICE TO SEE ALL OF YOU. GOOD TO BE HERE. I GOT A LOT OF STUFF ON MY LITTLE NOTEPAD HERE. THE FIRST THING I WANT TO ASK IS DOES OUR LOCAL CORPORATE NEWSPAPER HAVE A POLICY OF IGNORING AND SUPPRESSING THE DEATHS OF HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS? I WAS LISTENING TO KCBS RADIO A WEEK AGO AND SAID WE'RE IN SANTA ROSA AND A MAN WAS SLEEPING INTO A DUMPSTER AND GOT DUMPED INTO A DUMP TRUCK AND I DIDN'T HEAR IF HE LIVED OR DIED? AND ALSO THE MAN WHO HANGED HIMSELF AFTER HAVING THE POLICE TAKE AWAY HIS TENT.
I NEVER HEARD ANOTHER WORD. I DON'T KNOW HIS NAME. IT WAS APARENTLY NEVER IN THE NEWSPAPER. I DON'T READ THE NEWSPAPER, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY REPORT THESE THINGS. I WANT TO DO A QUICK RUNDOWN, TOMORROW IS I MAY AS WELL DO THAT NEXT. INTERNATIONAL WORKERS DAY, BUT IN OUR COUNTRY, THE OLIGARCHY DIDN'T WANT THAT HERE AND I WILL ANNOUNCE MY FRIEND VICTORIA YANES IS MAKING A SPEECH ON BEHALF OF THE GROUP OF VITAL IMMIGRANT DEFENSE ADVOCACY AND SERVICES.
SHE'LL BE MAKING A SPEECH TOMORROW. WE SAT TOGETHER AND WORKED ON IT TODAY. AND THE RAGING GRANNIES MIGHT BE THERE. I'LL BE THERE. WHATEVER, FOR A LITTLE WHILE. I WANT TO DO A QUICK RUNDOWN TO COMPARE SAN JOSÉ TO SANTA ROSA TO SAN RAPHAEL TRANSIT. THEY HAD FIVE WORKING PAY PHONES BURB REDOING THE ISLANDS THEY TOOK FOUR OF THEM IDENTITY AND JUST ONE ON THE BUILDING NOW OF THE OUR TRANSIT CENTER HAS NO PUBLIC TELEPHONE AVAILABLE 6:00 A.M.
TO 700 P.M. AND 9-5 ON SUNDAYS AND COMPARED TO THOSE CAN — I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY OPEN, BUT THEY ARE OPENED UNTIL 10:00 AT NIGHT. THERE IS STILL GOLDEN GATE BUSES GOING THROUGH AND MUCH EARLIER. LIKE ON WEEKNIGHTS AT 7:30 WE STILL HAVE BUSES UNTIL MIDNIGHT AND PEOPLE COMING UP FROM SAN FRANCISCO MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE BUS FOR TWO HOURS. I GUESS I DIDN'T GET TO THE REST. THAT IS ENOUGH. THANKS. >> THANK YOU, ELIZABETH. MICHAEL SWANSON FRANKS, FOLLOW BY SEAN DREYER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I APPROACHED THE COUNCIL ABOUT FIVE MONTHS AGO, AND IN MY THREE MINUTES' TIME I READ A LETTER TO YOU ALL FROM CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES REGARDING THE BOY SCOUTS SEXUAL ABUSE CASES AND MORE IMPORTANTLY MY HSTORICAL CASE FROM 1958. IN THAT LETTER CONGRESSWOMAN FROM PTALUMA MENTIONED THE FACT THAT THE WORK THAT I HAD BEEN DOING WAS GOING TO PAY BIG DIVIDENDS SOME DAY — NOT IN MONEY FORM, BUT IN HUMANITARIAN FORM. RIGHT ABOUT THAT TIME, THE BIGGEST CASE OUT OF PORTLAND, OREGON, WHERE THEY HAD SUBPOENAED 70,000 PAGES O PERVERSION FILES.
I ASKED DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME I WAS PROCESSING MY FINAL POLICE REPORT, WHICH WAS HANDLED BY THE MARIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND IT WASN'T SUCH A BIG THING BACK IN '58, BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS. FOR 40 YEARS I HAD REPRESSED THESE THINGS THAT HAD HAPPENED. THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS NOW THE WORK THAT HAS GONE ON HS OPENED UP HUNDREDS OF BOY SCOUT CASES THAT HAVE BEEN ON HOLD ACROSS THIS NATION. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO TOO MUCH MYSELF WITH SOME OF THE UNDERLYING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE GOING ON.
BUT THE BIG TING FOR ME WAS — THERE ARE STATUTES OF COURSE. I WASN'T REALLY LOOKING FOR TOO MUCH OUT OF THAT AND I CERTAINLY WAS NOT INVOLVED WITH ANY CIVIL CASES BECAUSE OF THE STATUTES. WHAT I HAD HOPED FOR SOME DAY THAT BSA WOULD COME OUT WITH A SURVIVOR MRIT BADGE AND THAT IS ALL I HOPED FOR. IN THESE LAST FOUR YEARS WE HAVE SEEN WONDERFUL CHANGES TAKING PLACE. AND I CAN'T TELL YOU THE HOURS THAT I HAVE PUT IN AND I'M SO PROUD OF OUR SANTA ROSA POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE MEN AND WOMEN, THEIR EFFORTS AND SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND THINGS.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO FEEL SAFE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE HAD INCIDENCES WHEN I WAS IN TRAUMA AND WANDERING THE STREETS OF SANTA ROSA TALKING TO THE CLOUDS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN A COUPLE OF LDY OFFICERS PULL UP, AND SIT AND TALK TO YOU FOR A FEW MINUTES AND THEN SAY, YOU KNOW, CAN WE TAKE YOU TO THE HOSPITAL? DO YOU WANT TO CHECK-IN? DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS OR CAN WE TAKE YOU AND CLARA BELLE HOME? WELL, CLARA BELLE IS OLD NOW AND VISITS THE POLICE BENCH EVERY WEEK.
MY FOLLOW-UP IS BASICALLY THERE ARE A LOT OF CASES PENDING. GIVE YOUR UTMOST SUPPORT TO THESE MEN AND BOYS THAT HAD HAVE TO ENDURE THIS. THERE IS A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT THEY NEED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> OKAY. >> SEAN DREYER, FOLLOWED BY KEVIN CONWAY. >> HELLO, THANKS FOR TAKING TIME TO HEAR ME TODAY. WE CAME HERE A YEAR-AGO FOR THE SMALL CELL DEPLOYMENT 4G TOWERS AND YOU GUYS WERE REALLY RESPONSIVE.
I WATCHED A TELEPHONE POLE GET REPLACED 80' FROM THE KINDERGARTEN CLASSROOM AND FORTUNATELY IT'S EMPTY AT THE TOP. IT'S READY FOR A CELL, BUT THANKS TO EVERYONE'S EFFORTS INCLUDING YOURS, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN YET. THERE IS AN UNKNOWN PAUSE FORHOUNSING IT'S GOING LAST, BUT A YEAR-AGO, IN FEBRUARY, I HEARD ABOUT 5G AND I WAS LIKE WAIT A MINUTE, 4G ISN'T EVEN DONE. SO I RESEARCHED HEAVILY ON WHAT IT IS AND I WATCHED TOM WHEELER THE FCC CHAIRMAN AT THE TIME HIS SPEECH AND HE SAID WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO ROLL THIS OUT FULL SPEED AHEAD. WE'RE NOT GROG GOING TO WAIT FOR THE STANDARDS AND SAID IN THE SAME SPEECH, IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU WHAT 5G IS, RUN THE OTHER WAY, BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS. WHAT IS HAPPENING THEY WANT TO ROLL THIS OUT WITHOUT ANY TESTING ON HEALTH AND IT'S VERY CONTROVERSIAL AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET INTO THE WHOLE BACK AND FORTH THING.
MY THING IF THEY WANT TO TEST IT, FINE, BUT DON'T TEST IT IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE ACTUALLY ARE TAKING A BREAK FROM IT. HAVING A TOWER IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME IS NOT HEALTHY, BASIC COMMONSENSE AND I KNOW THEY HAVE DONE LOBBYING AND PEOPLE HAVE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD IT. I AM ASKING YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER IT LIKE RUSSELLS IN MILL VALLEY AND PETALUMA AND SEBASTOPOL CHANGED ZONING TO PREVENT IT FROM GOING UP IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT IS VERY MINIMUM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THERE IS GOING TO BE A TOWER EVERY 300' IN THE END AND EACH CARRIER NEEDS THEIR OWN. THAT'S LIKE EVERY OTHER TELEPHONE POLE. I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING IT A LOT, HEAVILY, EVERY DAY AND LEARNING ABOUT IT AND I'M WITH A FEW PEOPLE AND WE'RE TRYING TO JUST RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT IT. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW HARD-AND-FAST THIS IS COMING. AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO WAKE UP ONE DAY AND FND THAT THE LIGHT POLE RIGHT ACROSS FROM MY BEDROOM WINDOW AND MY KIDS HAS A HEAVY RADIATION-EMITTING TOWER BLASTING INTO MY HOUSE 24/7.
PLEASE IF, GUYS COULD JUST FIND IT IN YOUR HEARTS TO HELP US CONTINUE THE MORATORIUM OR AT THE VERY LEAST, HOW CAN WE CHANGE THE ZONING TO KEEP IT OUT OF OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS? IT'S COMING UP IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSES TOO AND IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE TO CERTAIN AREAS. IT'S LITERALLY GOING TO BE EVERYWHERE AND THIS HAS BEEN SAID BY EVERYBODY IN THE INDUSTRY ITSELF. SO THERE IS NO DEFINITIVE ANSWER AS TO WHETHER THESE NEW CLOSE PROXIMITY ULTRA HIGH FREQUENCY TOWERS ARE SAFE OR NOT AND WE NEED TO DO TESTING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. KEVIN CONWAY. >> GOOD EVENING. EXCUSE ME, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT FEELS LIKE SOME STRONG MOVEMENT AND COMMITMENT TO ADDRESSING THE CLIMATE CRISIS.
MY REASON FOR SPEAKING TONIGHT IS TO ASK THAT THE MOTION REGARDING THE ALL ELECTRIC READY ORDINANCE BE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE OCTOBER 7TH, WHICH IS WHEN IT'S SCHEDULED ON THE CALENDAR THAT MR. MCGLYNN IS REFERRING TO. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE REASON THAT IT IS SCHEDULED LATE IN THE YEAR IN OCTOBER IS THAT THE SAFF IS LOOKING INTO OTHER OPTIONS OR DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR MOVING FORWARD AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THINGS RIGHT. THEY ARE LOOKING INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF WORKING WITH OTHER CITIS TO ADOPT AN ALL-ELECTRIC CODE AND THEY WANT TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE PENDING BUILDING CODES, WHICH WILL EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY OF 2020. AND THEN THEY ARE CONSIDERING ALL-ELECTRIC READY ORDINANCE, BUT THERE IS NO REASON TO NOT MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS ORDINANCE NW. IT WILL NOT RECLUDE THE CITY FROM TAKING THE OTHER TWO ACTIONS AND THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE. THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE BEEN MET WITH AND REGIONAL CLIMATE PROTECTION AUTHORITY HAS BEEN MET WITH ALL THAT IS NECESSARY TO BRING THE MOTION BEFORE THE COUNCILIBILITIES SO ALL OF THE PEOPLE GETTING PERMITS NOW AND ARE BUILDING NOW CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS POWERFUL AND VERY COST-EFFECTIVE ORDINANCE.
SANTA ROSA LEADING THE STATE ON THIS IDEA. ALL ELECTRIC READY IS A UNIQUE IDEA AND OTHER CITES ARE LOOKING INTO IT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. IT'S BEEN INCLUDED IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CALIFORNIA CODES AND STANDARDS COMMISSION, BECAUSE OF OUR WORK. SO I STRONGLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER PUTTING THIS ORDINANCE UP FOR DISCUSSION ON AN AGENDA WELL BEFORE OCTOBER 7TH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, KEVIN.
HENRY DAN, FOLLOWED BY SHELLEY BROWNLEY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. I DON'T ENVY YOUR JOBS, BECAUSE SO MANY DIFFERENT CONCERNS ARE THERE. I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE 5G ROLL-OUT THAT IS HAPPENING. IT'S BEEN SAID THAT IT WILL BE SIMILAR TO LIVING IN A MICROWAVE. NOW THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT IT, BUT THE TESTING HAS NOT BEEN DONE THAT IS NEEDED AND I'M ALSO A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE SONOMA COUNTY BEEKEEPERS ASSOCIATION.
AND IT IS HAVING A SERIOUS EFFECT ON WILDLIFE AND ESPECIALLY HONEY BEES. THE HONEYBEES EXPOSED TO MICROWAVE RADIATION DO NOT RETURN TO THE HIVE. THEY GET DISORIENTED. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY'RE FOCUSED ON ELECTRIC — NATURAL ELECTRICITY IN THE ENVIRONMENT, AND GRAVITATIONAL FORCES AND SO MANY THINGS THAT THEY ARE DEPENDENT UPON FOR RETURNING TO THE HIVE FOR FORAGING, FOR DOING THINGS LIKE THAT. AND IT'S A SERIES CONCERN THAT IF THEY DON'T — IF THEY ARE EXPOSED TO MICROWAVERADIATION LIKE IS COMING, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOSING HIVES SIMILAR TO THE COLONY COLLAPSE THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. THAT WILL AFFECT OUR AGRICULTURE VERY SERIOUSLY. SO ANYWAY, I DO APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING AND THANK YOU THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER – I HAVE WRITTEN A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ALREADY.
BUT THIS IS A SERIOUS CONCERN FOR TE FUTURE, NOT ONLY OF OUR WILDLIFE, BUT ALSO FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. SHELLEY. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR SCHWEDHELM AND ALL O YOU AND THANK YOU JAB FORK BRINGING FORWARD AB 857 AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS BILL IS. THIS BILL WAS CO-AUTHORED BY ASSEMBLY MEMBERS CHIU OF SAN FRANCISCO AND IT WAS SPONSORED BY THE PUBLIC BANKING ALLIANCE — 12 CITIS FROM SAN DIEGO TO EUREKA AND IT'S ASKING THE BUSINESS OVERSIGHT TO OFFER A NEW LICENSURE THAT DOESN'T EXIST CURRENTLY FOR ANY TOWN OR CITY THAT WISHED TO START A PUBLIC BANK IN FUTURE, COULD THEN GO TO THE OFFICE OF BUSINESS OVERSIGHT TO OBTAIN LICENSURE.
THE ASK OF THIS IS THAT THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA ENDORSE A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT OF AB 857. THE CITIES OF LOS ANGELES, OAKLAND, BERKELEY AND RICHMOND ARE HAVE ALSO ENDORSED, AS WELL AS COUNTIES OF SAN FRANCISCO AND SANTA CLARA. THIS LITTLE WOULD NOT COST TO ENDORSE I OR THIS BILL IN AND OF ITSELF NOT COST THE CITY MONEY, BUT THAT YOU SUPPORTED THE OFFICE OF BUSINESS OVERSIGHT TO CREATE THIS LICENSURE. IT ALSO REQUIRES IF PUBLIC BANKS AE UP AND RUNNING THAT THEY PARTNER WITH LOCAL BANKS AND CREDIT UNIONS AND DON'T COMPETE WITH THEM. IT'S A WAY THAT W CAN KEEP OUR LOCAL MONEY IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SO BADLY IN NEED OF THESE FUND RIGHT NOW. SO I KINDLY ASK PORE FOR YOUR SUPPORT THAT YOU ENDORSE AS A COUNCIL AND STATE THAT THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA IS IN FAVOR OF PUBLIC BANKS.
>> THAT IS ALL THE CARDS WE HAVE. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WE HEARD ABOUT THE 5G AND THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT AND COULD YOU UPDATE WITH US? >> I'M SORRY I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE IT CAME OUT, BUT IT CAME OUT RECENTLY AND I'M IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING TO COUNCIL WITH DETAILS. IT ALOUD FOR AESTHETIC REGULATION OF CELL FACILITIES. >> THANK YOU.
>> ITEM 15.1 MR. CITY MANAGER. >> REPORT, RECERTIFICATION OF SEWER SYSTEM MANAGEMENT PLAN AND DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY FOR FUTURE RECERTIFICATIONS TO THE BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES, DEPUTY DIRECTOR WATER AND SEWER OPERATIONS PRESENTING. >> MAYOR SCHWEDHELM, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. SO WE'RE HERE TODAY SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE RECERTIFICATION OF OUR SEWER SYSTEM MANAGEMENT PLAN AND REQUESTING THAT YOU DELEGATE FUTURE APPROVAL AUTHORITY TO THE BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES. I WILL START BY PROVIDING A LITTLE BACKGROUND A TO WHERE WE HAVE AN SSMP. THE STATE RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD REGULATES SANITARY DISCHARGES AND THOSE SOURCES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY DEGRADE WATER QUALITY THROUGHOUT THE TATE. THIS ORDER INCLUDED A GENERAL WASTE DISCHARGE REQUIREMENT KNOWN AS WDR THAT ALL COLLECTION SYSTEMS DEVELOP A MECHANISM AND TO HELP REDUCE THEIR SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS.
THE WASTE DISCHARGE ORDER REQUIRED EACH AGENCY CREATE AN SSMP PRO PROVIDE A PLAN AND SCHEDULE TO PROPERLY MANAGE, OPERATE AND MAINTAIN IN ALL PARTS OF THEIR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM IN ORDER T HELP REDUCE SSOS, A WELL AS MITIGATE ANY SSOS THAT DO OCCUR. SO THE WATER DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO CONFORM WITH THE GOALS IDENTIFIED IN THE SSMP. THROUGH IMPLEMENTING ONGOING MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS AND THROUGH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. AS DESCRIBED IN OUR SSMP, WE PROVIDE EMERGENCY RESPONSE, CLEAN-UP, SOURCE MITIGATION, AND NOTIFICATION FOLLOW-UP FOR ALL SSOS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES OF OUR SSMP OVERFLOW ROSPONSE PLAN AND REGULAR SANITARY SUPER AND CCTV AND SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS BSESED OFF AND ON DEFICIENCIES DISCOVERED THROUGH THE CCTV INSPECTIONS. TO MINIMIZE INFLOW AND INFILTRATION, ALSO KNOWN AS I & I, WE SMOKE TEST AND COLLECT DATA THROUGH THE CCTV INSPECTIONS AND WE ALSO MAINTAIN AND ENFORCE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM DESIGN AND STANDARDS.
THAT HELP OUR OPERATIONS STAFF OPERATE AND MAINTAIN OUR SEWER SYSTEM EFFECTIVELY. AS DESCRIBED IN THE SSMP EACH ORGANIZATION SHALL CONDUCT PERIODIC INTERNAL AUDITS APPROPRIATE TO THE SIZE OF THE SYSTEM AND THE NUMBER OF SSOS THAT ARE OCCURRING I THAT SYSTEM. AT A MINIMUM, THESE AUDITS MUST OCCUR EVERY TWO YEARS AND A REPORT MUST BE PREPARED AND KEPT ON-FILE. THIS AUDIT SHALL FOCUS ON EVALUATING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE SSMP AND THE ORGANIZATION'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE SSMP REQUIREMENTS. INCLUDED IN OUR MOST RECENT AUDIT ARE METRICKS AND EVIDENCE OF OUR EFFECTIVE SSMP SUCH AS OUR EXCELLENT SSO RECORD. AS WELL AS RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS LIKE BEING AWARDED TE CWEA'S COLLECTION SYSTEM OF THE YEAR FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. JUST A QUICK NOTE, THE STANDARD AVERAGE FOR CALIFORNIA IS ABOUT 8 SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS OR SSOS PER 100 MILES OF PIPE AND INCLUDING MOST RECENTLY WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS GOING A 15 -MONTH PERIOD WITHOUT AN SSO. BECAUSE THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE OUR COMPLIANCE, AND UPDATE INFORMATION DURING OUR AUDITS . SO WHAT HAS CHANGED IN 2019? WELL, AS I MENTIONED THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT AND IT'S INTENDED TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT BY THE STATE AND THEY EXPECT CHANGES TO BE MADE CONTINUALLY WITHOUT GOING TO THE GOVERNING BOARD WITH EVERY CHANGE THAT IS MADE AND THUS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE FIVE-YEAR RECERTIFICATION B BROUGHT BEFORE YOU.
WE'RE CONTINUING UPDATING STAFF.ORG CHARTS, CONTACT INFORMATION, AS WELL AS SYSTEMS STATISTICS AND DATA. NEW TO THIS DRAFT IS AN LRO CERTIFICATION PAGE, WHICH CLEARLY SHOW HAS IT ALL OF THE SSOS THAT DO OCCUR AND ANY CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND SIGNED OFF BY OUR LEGAL REPORTING OFFICIAL, WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE LRO. THERE IS AN APPENDIX THAT CONTAINS A CHANGE LOG AND THIS RECENT REQUIREMENT THAT WILL BE USED FROM THIS RECERTIFICATION MOVING FORWARD TO DOCUMENT ANY CHANGES TO THE SSMP AND ANY CHANGES MADE WILL BE CLEARLY DEFINED IN THE CHANGE LOG. OUR REFINED AND IMPROVED SPILL RESPONSE DOCUMENTATION INCLUDES POST-SPILL REQUIREMENT FOR ALL SSOS THAT OCCUR. THIS ALLOWS US TO FOCUS ON CONSTANT IMPROVEMENT BY REVIEWING THE PREVIOUS RESPONSE. WE ALSO CONTINUALLY UPDATE OUR SPILL RESPONSE GUIDE SHEETS FOLLOWED BY ALL CREWS THAT RESPOND T SSOS AND THESE GUIDING DOCUMENTS INCLUDE WHO TO CONTACT IF A SPILL OCCURS AND REQUIRED NOTIFICATION AND TIMELINES FOR EACH AGENCY AND ALSO CONTAIN LINE ITEMS TO DOCUMENT EACH SPILL, TO MAKE SURE EACH ONE IS DOCUMENTED AND CAN BE PROPERLY REVIEWED. SO WHY THE FIVE-YEAR RECERTIFICATION? THE WDR REQUIRES THAT THE SSMP BE RECERTIFIED AT A PUBLIC MEETING EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND THEY ALSO REQUIRE THAT ANY SIGNIFICANT OPERATIONAL CHANGES OR PROGRAM CHANGES BE INCLUDED IN THE RECERTIFICATION. FORTUNATELY WE NOT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT OPERATIONAL CHANGES. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE AWARD-WINNING DOCUMENT AND USING IT AS OUR GUIDE HAS HELPED US ACHIEVE AN IMPRESSIVELY LOW SSO RECORD. WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING THAT FUTURE APPROVAL AUTHORITY BE GRANTED TO THE BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES. SECTION 25 OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA CHARTER GRANTS THE BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES GENERAL POLICY AUTHORITY AND DIRECTION OVER MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONS OF THE CITY'S WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES.
WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL GRANT THE BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES AUTHORITY FOR FUTURE RECERTIFICATIONS, AND SHOULD THIS REQUEST BE GRANTED, THE SSMP THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE STATE WILL INCLUDE THIS CHANGE OF AUTHORITY. THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE OUR ONLY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE DOCUMENT. WE BELIEVE GRANTING THIS AUTHORITY TO THE BOARD SHOULD CREATE A TIMELIER PROCESS THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE WDR, AS WELL AS THE CITY CHARTER. AND THAT BRINGS US TO OUR RECOMMENDATION: AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE ACRONYMS THAT YOU HAVE ADDED TO ALL OUR VOCABULARIES. COUNCIL, QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO WE DON'T.
MS. FLEMING THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> I WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORTH RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA APPROVING THE RECERTIFICATION OF THE SEWER SYSTEM MANAGEMENT PLAN AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD ORDER NO. 2 006-20 O3 AND DELEGATING APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR RECERTIFICATION TO THE BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES AND WAIVE FURTHER READING OF THE TEXT. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND SECOND. I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SSOS THAT HAVE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN THEY HAVE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT NOT MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY NOW, BUT I KNOW THE SEVEN OF US REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF YOU AND YOUR WHOLE TEAM, YOUR WHOLE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT BY ACCIDENT YOU ARE ROCKSTARS IN THIS WORLD. SO WITH THAT, COUNCIL YOUR VOTES. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. HAVE A NICE EVENING. >> MR. CITY MANAGER, 15.2. >> ITEM 15.2, REPORT APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY 2019-20 SUBREGIONAL SYSTEM OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND DEBT SERVICE BUDGET AND ALLOCATION OF COSTS KIMBERLY ZENINO, DEPUTY DIRECTOR ADMINISTRATION PRESENTING.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR SCHWEDHELM AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I AM COMING BEFORE YOU WITH A BUDGET ITEM, WHICH IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL, BUT IT DOES COME TO YOU ONCE A YEAR EARLY. WE NEED TO NOTIFY OUR PARTNERS OF THEIR ALLOCATION OF COSTS PRIOR TO MAY 1ST OR ON MAY 1ST, WHICH IS WHY THIS ITEM COMES BEFORE YOU BEFORE THE REST OF THE BUDGET. OUR SUBREGIONAL SYSTEM IS MADE UP OF FIVE PARTNERS. SO WE RUN THE SYSTEM AND WE HAVE FIVE PARTNERS WHO CONTRIBUTE TO WASTEWATER AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE COST OF OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE, DEBT SERVICE AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THOSE FIVE PARTNERS ARE SANTA ROSA, ROHNERT PARK, COTATI SEBASTOPOL AND THE SANITATION DISTRICT AND THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET IS AVAILABLE FOR US, SO WE CAN TASTE WASTEWATER, ET CETERA AND COMPLY WITH NPDES AND AIR QUALITY PERMITTING AND MONITORING OF HAZARDOUS WASTE MATERIALS. OUR O & M BUDGET IS ONLY GOING UP BY 0 .8% AND INCREASING CIP BY $1 MILLION, THE CASH-FUNDS PORSHE OF OUR CIP AND WE HAVE AGREED WITH OUR PARTNERS TO BE INCREASING THIS CASH-FUNDED CIP EVERY YEAR BY $1 MILLION. THIS WILL HELP US TO INCUR LESS DEBT AS LARGE PROJECTS COME ALONG IN FUTURE.
SO THAT WE CAN HAVE LESS DEBT AND HAVE LESS DEBT SERVICE MOVING FORWARD. OUR SALARIS ARE DOWN 1.7% IN THE SUBREGIONAL SYSTEM. WE'RE ACTUALLY REMOVING TWO POSITIONS, AS WELL AS MOVING SOME SUPPORT STAFF TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUND. BENEFITS ARE UP 1%. ELECTRICITY WE'RE PROJECTING AT 10% INCREASE THIS YEAR, AND THEN OUR VEHICLE EXPENDITURES ARE UP QUITE A BIT THIS YEAR. MOSTLY BECAUSE GARAGE FEES ARE GOING UP, BUT ALSO THERE'S KIND OF A SWEET SPOT WHEN IT COMES TO VEHICLES WHICH MEANS OLD VEHICLES NEED MORE MAINTENANCE AND NEW VEHICLES NEED LESS MAINTENANCE AND IN THE MIDDLE NOT QUITE AS MUCH AND WE HAVE OLDER VEHICLES REQUIRING MORE AND NEWER VEHICLES THAT REQUIRE THAT FIRST INITIAL MAINTENANCE THAT IS REQUIRED ON THEM. HERE WE'RE JUST PROVIDING YOU WITH A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THE DOLLARS GO. AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS LIST YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES, WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT ON A LATER SLIDE.
AND THIS JUST A GRAPH SHOWING THE SAME THING, BUT IN A GRAPH FORM. THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU A BREAKDOWN OF ENTIRE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET AND THE CIP BUDGET. YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP THERE IS OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURE REQUEST. WE HAVE A SMALL DEBT SERVICE THAT'S INCLUDED ALSO IN THE TOTAL. THE $6 MILLION FOR THE CASH-FUNDED PORTION. [ INAUDIBLE ] THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT DECREASE IN OUR OPERATING RESERVE COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAD FOR LAST YEAR'S OPERATING RESERVE AND THAT BASE OFED ON POLICY. WE DO A 15% OF OPERATING RESERVE IS WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO KEEP. THE BOTTOM, $37 MILLION IS DISTRIBUTED BETWEEN THE PARTNERS BASED ON FLOW RATIOS AND I WILL GET INTO THAT IN NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.
AS I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH MOST OF YOU THE MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES ARE INCREASING THIS YEAR AND THE BIGGEST INCREASE THAT WE'RE SEEING BY QUITE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT IS FOR OUR HIGH STRENGTH TIPPING CARGES. THIS IS BECAUSE WE MADE IMPROVEMENTS AND CHANGES TO OUR HIGHWAY WASTE STRENGTH DISCHARGE PROGRAM, AS WELL AS OPENING UP SOME NEW OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THIS, BECAUSE THIS MEANS THERE ARE LESS TRUCKS ROLLING ON THE GROUND, LESS TRUCKS DRIVING DOWN TO OAKLAND DO THE DUMPING AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DO IT HERE.
WE'RE TRENDING A BIT HIGHER THAN THE $1.8 MILLION WE'RE PROJECTING, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROJECT THAT WE'LL RECEIVE MORE REVENUE NEXT YEAR ON THAT, BECAUSE PETALUMA IS LIKELY GOING TO BE OPENING A DISCHARGING STATION AS WELL. SO WE EXPECT PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING UP TO US WILL BE GOING TO THAT PLANT INSTEAD. SO THIS CHART JUST GIVES YOU WHAT OUR FLOWS ARE, WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN OVER THE YEARS? WHAT THIS YEAR'S PERCENTAGE RATES ARE? THIS IS WHAT WILL BE USED TO DISTRIBUTE THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE PORTION OF THE BUDGET. AND THEN THIS IS A NEW PIECE FOR YOU JUST FOR THIS YEAR AT THIS POINT. WE WERE REQUESTING — IT WAS REQUESTED BY ONE OF ON ON OR BEFORE PARTNERS THAT WE CONSIDER DOING A FIVE-YEAR AVERAGE ON THE CASH H FUNDED. THIS YEAR FOR ONE-YEAR DEVIATION AND WE HAVE AGREED AND TAC MEMBERS AND BPU MEMBERS VOTED TO LOOK AT THE CIP CASH-FUNDED PORTION OF THE BUDGET AND DISTRIBUTE IT BY 5-YEAR FLOW AVERAGE INSTEAD OF A SINGLE YEAR. THIS WILL SMOOTH OUT A LOT OF UP-AND-DOWN AND LARGER FLUCTUATIONS IN THE DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE FUNDS.
AND THEN THIS CHART JUST GIVES YOU TOTAL BREAKDOWN AND SHOWING YOU WHAT THE TOTAL CONTRIBUTION WAS FOR LAST YEAR FOR EACH WIN OUR PARTNERS AND O&M BUDGET DISTRIBUTION AND CIP CONTRIBUTION BASISED ON THE FIVE-YEAR AVERAGE FLOW AND DEBT SERVICE, WHICH IS COMPLETELY DENT ON WHAT IT WAS OCCURRED AND DEBT SERVICE. WE DID A BOND REFUNDING AND SO WE'LL BE SEEING THAT DEBT SERVICE NUMBER COME DOWN. WE'RE GOING TO SEE A NET SAVINGS OF ABOUT $1.8 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE BASED ON TAT REFUNDING THAT WE DID. SO WE'LL START TO SEE THE NUMBERS COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THIS JUST GIVES YOU A SCHEDULE AND WE MEAT WITH THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE SELF SEVERAL TIMES AND RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON THE 18TH.
IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST A PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FROM YOU AND THEN WE'LL NOTIFY THE USER AGENCIES MAY 1ST. YOUR ACTUAL APPROVAL WILL COME WITH THE BUDGET. SO YOU WLL HAVE THIS WITH YOUR STUDY SESSIONS AND THEN AGAIN, YOU WILL SEE IT IN JUNE. WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE BEFORE I MAKE MY RECOMMEND OR I CAN MAKE MY RECOMMENDATION FIRST? LET ME READ THE RELEVANTATION PHYSITHEN IT'S RECOMMENDED BY SANTA ROSA WATER STAFF AND TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE THE BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES THAT CITY COUNCIL BY RESOLUTION APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY 2019-20 REGIONAL WATER REUSE SYSTEM OPERATING AD MAINTENANCE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND DEBT SERVICE BUDGET, AND ALLOCATION OF COST FOR THE PURPOSE OF NOTIFYING THE PARTICIPATING REGIONAL REUSE USER AGENCIES OF THEIR ALLOCATION OF SUCH COST BY MAY 1ST.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION, KIMBERLY. COUNCIL, QUESTIONS? >> MAY I JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRELIMINARY MEETINGS TO GO OVER THIS. IT REALLY SPEEDS UP THE PROCESS, AND IT'S MUCH — IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DISCUSS IN DETAIL SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, OR CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE WHEN WE GET A LOT OF INFORMATION LIKE THIS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION. >> I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ASK ON THE ESTIMATED REGIONAL MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES, SECOND ITEM IS INTEREST ON POOLED INVESTMENTS. WE WENT FROM $490K TO $100 K. THAT IS SOMEWHAT OF A REDUCTION IN RVENUE. SLIDE 8. >> LET ME GO BACK TO THAT ONE. SO I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT ONE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT HAS DO WITH ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN AND NOT COLLECTING INTEREST FROM OUR PARTNERS. WE DO SOMETIMES HAVE — AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST LOANED MONEY TO PURCHASE PROPERTIES AND WHEN THOSE LOANS ARE PAID OFF, THEY ARE PAYING US BACK. >> YOU COULD JUST SEND TO ME. >> GREAT. >> I THINK THE MAYOR WANTS TO KNOW WHY THE POOLED INVESTMENTS DROPPED OFF? >> ONCE THEY STOP PAYING US, BECAUSE THEY HAVE PAID OFF.
>> I WAS MAKING A WTER PUN — [LAUGHTER ]. >> OKAY. >> I WAS TRYING TO IGNORE HIM. WE HAVE ONE CARD ON THIS ITEM. GEORGE UBARTY >> LAGUNA SANTA ROSA FACILITY — I'M REALLY GLAD BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT GOE ON AT THAT FACILITY. BECAUSE WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S NOT CLEANING OUR WATER. AND NOW I HARP ON THIS A LOT. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO WHAT WE SAY; RIGHT? HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS. SO I WILL KEEP BEING THE INPUT UNTIL YOU START BEING THE OUTPUT, ALL RIGHT? BEFORE THESE FIRES HIT, BEFORE THESE FIRES HIT WE HAD THE MOST WATER QUALITY VIOLATIONS PER CAPITA IN STATE OF CALIFORNIA BY A HUGE MARGIN AND YOU THINK THINGS GOT WORSE OR BETTER WHEN THE FIRES HIT? TAKE A GUESS ALL RIGHT? IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, OKAY? I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. I TESTED THE WATER MYSELF WHILE I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA, ALL RIGHT? 8.8 WAS THE PH, PH IS OF WATER 7.
IT'S WHAT SETS WHAT PH IS. IT'S ENOUGH, OKAY? I MEAN, IF YOU — IF YOU CAN'T EVEN GIVE US CLEAN DRINKING WATER, WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT DO YOU DO, ALL RIGHT? NOW THAT QUESTION I THINK NEED — IS ECHOED BY THE NUMBERS ITEM SEEING HERE IN THE EXPENDITURES BY CATEGORIES LINE. BECAUSE WHAT I CAN SEE IS THAT SALARIS ARE $9 MILLION — ALMOST $10 MILLION. BENEFITS ALMOST $6 MILLION, GOT ABOUT $17 MILLION THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SERVICE $22 MILLION. YOU KNOW? LABORATORY SERVICES. NOT SO MUCH; RIGHT? $300,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THE BIGGEST COST OF GETTING OUR WATER CLEAN IS PAYING YOU GUYS AND THE WATER IS NOT CLEAN. WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR, ALL RIGHT? WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR? NOW TALKING ABOUT THIS, WATER QUALITY TRADING CREDITS; RIGHT? SOMETHING THAT GOES ON AT THE LAGUNA SANTA ROSA TREATMENT FACILITY.
WATER QUALITY TRADING UNITS. I IMPLORE YOU DO THAT BECAUSE THE FIRST THING THAT COMES IN IS A BIG, FAT KNOCKING YOU KNOW WHY IN A ? IT'S JUST AN ELABORATE — — YOU THINK PEOPLE DON'T WANT CLEAN DRINKING WATER? NOBODY VOTES AWAY THEIR OWN DRINKING WATER. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. IT'S PEOPLE LIKE YOU, DOING ALL THESE THINGS BEHIND-THE-SCENES TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T DO WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. BE A GOVERNMENT. >> ANY OHER CARDS? DON'T SEE ANY. MR. TIBBETTS, YOU HAVE THIS ITEM. >> I MOVE A RESOLUTION OF THE CONSCIENCE OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY FY'2019-20 SUBREGIONAL SYSTEM AND WAVE FURTHER READING OF THE TEXT. >> I WILL SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. YOUR VOTES. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, KIMBERLY. >> THANK YOU. MR. CITY MANAGER, 15.3. >> ITEM 15 MERCHANT 3 REPORT, REIMBURSE 50% SHARE OF REPAIR COSTS TO SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY FOR REPAIR OF SCREW COMPRESSOR, DOUG WILLIAMS FACILITIES MAINTENANCE COORDINATOR, STEVE KECK AND JASON NUTT, IT'S A TRIPLE THREAT PRESENTING. >> WE'RE APPEARING BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY, ANNE HAMMOND AND THE DIRECTOR AND FACILITIES MANAGER AND THIS EVENING WE HAVE TWO MATTERS TO DISCUSS WITH YOU. NO. 1, THE LIBRARY SEEKS REIMBURSEMENT FOR CAPITAL REPAIR AT THE CENTRAL LIBRARY AND NO. 2, THERE IS LIMITED DOCUMENTATION GOVERNING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA AND THE SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARIES. SO THE CITY AND THE LIBRARY CURRENTLY OPERATE UNDER A JPA, WHICH INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE, REGARDING MAINTENANCE COSTS. THE LIBRARY SHALL ENTER INTO AND MAINTAIN LEASE AGREEMENTS FOR EACH FACILITY IN WHICH IT PRIORITIES INTENDS TO OPERATE.
A REGIONAL BRANCH OR RURAL STATION LIBRARY UNLESSED FACILITY IS BEHIND THE LIBRARY, THE COMMISSION SHALL ESTABLISH LEASE AGREEMENTS STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS IN IT'S TACE BILOUISIANA SHALL APPROVE LIBRARY LEASES THAT ARE CONSISTENT THERE WITH. THE LIBRARY AND MEMBERS WHO OWN THE LIBRARY FACILITY SHALL WORK TOGETHER TO PLAN FOR THE PROVISIONS AND PAYMENT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND CAPITAL REPAIRS TO FACILITIES OPERATED BY THE LIBRARY INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO MAJOR REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT OF BUILDING STRUCTURES,, ET CETERA, OR EXTERNAL FEATURES SUCH AS PARKING LOTS. THE CITY OF SANTA ROSAING AND THE SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO LOCATE A LEASE AGREEMENT, IF ONE DOES EXIST. THE SCREW COMPRESSOR IS A LARGE COMPONENT OF AN AIR CONDITIONING UNIT WHICH WAS REPAIR IN THE CENTRAL LIBRARY IN MID-2018. THE LBRARY IS SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT OF 50% OF THE COST OF THAT REPAIR. THE JPA PROVIDES NO AUTHORITY FOR CITY SAFF TO REIMBURSE THE LIBRARY. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO EXISTING PROJECT BUDGETS. ANTICIPATING FUTURE MAINTENANCE COSTS THE LIBRARY SPECIFIC PROJECT WAS ADDED TO THE 2019-2020 BUDGET PROCESS.
DIRECTOR NUTT WILL ELABORATE FURTHER IN AN UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL MEETING CONCERNING THAT BUDGET REQUEST. >> SO I THINK THIS IS GOING PLAY INTO LARGER BUDGET CONVERSATIONS AS YOU SAW HOW THE BUDGET CALENDAR IS LAID-OUT. AND I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE HAVE FACILITIES, WE HAVE ASSETS. WE HVE A REQUEST OUTSTANDING FROM ANOTHER GROUP TO FUND A FACILITY, AND/OR PARTICIPATE IN O & M OF ANOTHER FACILITY AND WE DON'T HAVE A FULL AGREEMENT ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE THE FACILITY AND WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING AT THIS POINT ABOUT ANOTHER PLACE THAT WE HAVE OWNERSHIP, WHICH IS THE SONOMA COUNTY MUSEUM.
S THERE IS A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND WE — AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A FULL ASSET PLAN FOR OUR OWN ASSETS. AND THAT OUR CITY WORKERS WORK IN EVERY DAY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND I'M GOING TO LET THE STAFF MOVE FORWARD, BUT I THINK THIS WAS A REQUEST BY THE MAYOR TO START TO POINT TO THIS. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS ON THIS, BUT WE WANT TO SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A CHALLENGE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING NEED TO GET INTO CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FUNDING COMMITMENTS MOVING FORWARD. BUT THIS IS A CHALLENGE FOR THE CITY, AND AS HAS BEEN REPEATED MULTIPLE OCCASIONS RIGHT NOW W'RE ONLY INVESTING BETWEEN $300,000 AND $400,000 ANNUALLY IN OUR FACILITIES.
>> OKAY, WE INCLUDED THIS SLIDE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. WE HAVE THREE LIBRARIES THAT WE TAKE CARE OF. THE NORTHWEST LIBRARY IT'S IN THE CODDINGTOWN SHOPPING CENTER AND RINCON THAT IS THE MAIN LIBRARY DOWN THE STREET. WE CAN GET AN IDEA OF THE YEAR THAT THEY WERE BUILT. ONE LIBRARY IS 52 YEARS OLD AND WE HAVE ANOTHER THAT IS 54. THEIR CURRENT FACILITY CONDITION INDEX IS RELATIVELY WELL.
THE FUNDING NEED YOU SEE AT THE VERY FAR RIGHT IS TEN-YEAR NEED, AND IF WE WERE TO DO NOTHING WITH THESE FACILITIES, THE TEN-YEAR FCI WOULD INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY FOR ALL THREE FACILITIES. IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THESE FACILITIES, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE COUNCIL PACKAGE; THERE'S MORE INFORMATION ON THESE FACILITIES THERE. >> IF I MAY? JUST TO REMIND COUNCIL WHAT IS AT-ISSUE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS THE REQUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR EQUIPMENT AT TIS PARTICULAR LIBRARY. SO BOTH THE CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS AND THE GENERAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION IN TERMS OF THE VARIOUS ASSETS, THAT IS FOR ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER DISCUSSION. BUT THAT PROVIDES YOU A CONTEXT AND SOME BACKGROUND. >> TANK YOU FOR THAT. I DO APPRECIATE THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, BECAUSE I AS ONE COUNCIL PERSON, IT WAS SOMEWHAT FRUSTRATING WHEN THINGS ARE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. IF WE START WITH THE ENTIRE LIBRARY SYSTEM. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO MR. NUTT'S FUTURE PRESENTATION.
>> THAT WAS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ILUM ELLUMINATE AND WHILE WE HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU THAT IS NOT THE TOPIC OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION. >> COUNCIL, QUESTIONS? MR. TIBBETTS? >> SUE, I HAVE TO BELIEVE IN A COMMERCIAL LEASE AGREEMENT, THERE IS A REVERT TO SOLUTION THAT THE STATE HOLDS. THERE HAS GOT TO BE TENANT RIGHTS AT A BASIC LEVEL — WOULD THIS QUALIFY AS A COMMERCIAL LEASE? >> I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO THAT EXACT QUESTION, BUT I WOULD NOT TREAT THIS AS A COMMERCIAL LEASE. AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY DEFAULT IN THIS SITUATION. WE CANNOT LOCATE A LEASE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A LEASE GOING FORWARD.
BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE WORKING OFF OF JUST THE LANGUAGE FROM THE JPA. >> OKAY. YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN WE DO GET THE BIGGER CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT TE CITY'S MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AT THE LIBRARY, UNDERSTAND UNDERSTANDING WHAT ANY STATE LAW THAT KIND OF DICTATES OUR ROLE IN THE ABSENCE OF A LEASE WILL BE IMPORTANT. JUST LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE I WOULD BE AFRAID THIS WILL BE A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION WHO IS PAYING WHAT FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. >> WE'LL CERTAINLY COME BACK WITH A FULL AALYSIS OF A LEASE, IF WE'RE GOING ENTER INTO LEASES WHAT THESE LEASES LOOK LIKE.
>> THANK YOU. >> IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN EASY CONVERSATION, COUNCIL MEMBER. >> MS. COMBS. >> IT'S MY THAT THIS PARTICULAR LIBRARY HAD A REPAIR OF THIS HVAC SYSTEM PREVIOUSLY. WHY AE WE REPAIRING IT AGAIN SO SOON? WAS IT INCORRECTLY REPAIRED PREVIOUSLY OR WAS IT — I'M SORRY. IT FAILED — I'M JUST TRYING TO SORT OUT — WASN'T IT REPAIRED — IT SAYS OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE MID-2018 REPAIR? I'M SORRY. I MISUNDERSTOOD. I THOUGHT IT WAS REPAIRED IN 2018 AND WE WERE REPAIRING IT AGAIN. OKAY. THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER TO SWALLOW. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS HAVE WE HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS OF THE LONG-TERM LIFE SPAN OF TIS PARTICULAR FACILITY? ARE WE PREPARING THIS ITEM? >> AGAIN, WE CAN TAKE NOTES ON SOME OF THESE CONCERNS, BUT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS IF THE COUNCIL WILL AGREE TO 50% OF THIS REPAIR? >> SO THE FUTURE OF THE USEFUL LIFE OF TE BUILDING IS PART AND PARCEL TO ME OF THE CONVERSATION OF WHETHER WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH A REPAIR? >> AND YOU'RE FACING SOME OF THE STRUGGLE THAT STAFF IS FACING.
THERE ARE LONGER-TERM CONVERSATIONS HERE. WE'RE RECOMMENDING A PAYMENT OF THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ANSWER THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION THIS EVENING. >> OKAY. MY FINAL QUESTIO IS IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS NOT COMING OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND, BUT THERE ARE CIP DOLLARS SET ASIDE FOR THIS PURPOSE. IS THAT CORRECT? THE MONIES THAT WE USE TO PAY FOR THIS COME OUT OF OUR JOB LEDGER FUND, CIP. >> CIP. >> YES. >> IT'S NOT SPECIFIC FUNDS FOR LIBRARY REPAIRS.
IT'S GENERAL CIP FUNDS, IS THAT RIGHT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THANK YOU,. >> MR. VICE-MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. DID THE FUNDING FOR THIS, OR THE PROJECT GO THROUGH A PROPER RFP? >> THE ORIGINAL FUNDING WENT THROUGH OUR POLICIES, WHICH DO NOT REQUIRE AN RFP, BUT DID REQUIRE THREE QUOTES. >> SO IT RECEIVED THOSE THREE QUOTES? >> EXCUSE ME? >> DID YOU SAY IT REQUIRED THREE QUOTES? >> YES.
>> AND IT RECEIVED THOSE? >> YES, IT DID. >> DID THIS REQUIRE A VOTE OF THE LIBRARY BOARD? THE LIBRARY COMMISSION? >> YES. >> AND IT WAS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY IN SUPPORT? >> YES. >> OKAY. >> MS. FLEMING. >> YES, PARDON MY NEWNESS TO THE SITUATION. DO WE TYPICALLY REIMBURSE AT THE RATE OF 50% FOR EXPENSES INCURRED BY THE LIBRARY FOR REPAIRS? >> THIS I PART OF THE REASON WHY WE GAVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS IS THAT THE JPA DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY WHETHER I'S 50/50 SPLIT ON PROJECTS? IT COULD BE A 25:75, WE JUST HAVEN'T DETERMINED THAT AND WE ACTUALLY SPEAKING WITH FACILITY MANAGER FOR THE LIBRARY, WE WOULD LIKE SOME STRONGER LANGUAGE.
>> SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO HW WE GOT TO THIS NUMBER? THIS PERCENTAGE? >> PRE-2008 WE DID HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA THAT SPLIT THE COSTS AND THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA MANAGED THE FUND AND WE BOTH CONTRIBUTED EQUAL AMOUNTS TO THAT FUND ON A FISCAL YEAR BASIS. SO THAT IS WHERE THE 50 CAME FROM. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. VICE-MAYOR. >> AND I APOLOGIZE I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, IS THIS THE PROJECT THAT SPLIT THE COST FOR THE PART AND THE MAINTENANCE? OR THE LABOR INTO TWO SEPARATE CONTRACTS? >> YOU'RE CORRECT. >> AND WHAT WAS THE PURPOS OF THAT? >> I HAVE NO IDEA. THE VENDOR ABM INDUSTRIES SUBMITTED AN INITIAL QUOTE OF $98,000, AND THEN THEY BILLED US IN TWO SEPARATE INVOICES. >> OKAY. AND THAT IS NOT NORMAL PRACTICE FOR THE CITY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> NO, IT IS NOT. >> I'M GOING TO BE WILLING TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS TODAY, BUT AT A MINIMUM, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE LIBRARY COMMISSION THAT THAT IS NOT HOW WE TYPICALLY OPERATE AS WELL.
>> WELL, I THINK THAT IS THE REASON WE NEED TO GET INTO SOME CLEAR UNDERSTANDINGS AND BETTER DEFINED PROCESSES AROUND THESE ITEMS. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS TO BE HERE EITHERED LIBRARY COMMISSION OR STAFF IN THIS TYPE OF CONVERSATION. SO YES. >> MR. TIBBETTS. >> WILL THIS COME BACK AS AN ITEM UNTO ITSELF OR BE PART OF OUR ENTIRE MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS IN FACILITIES FOR THE CITY? >> IT WILL BE PART OF A LARGER CONVERSATION ABOUT MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS FOR THE CITY.
>> OKAY. I MIGHT JUST GETTING THIS INFORMATION FOR EXAMPLE, I'M SORRY I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME. >> DAVE. >> DAVE, BRINGING FORWARD THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT IS REALLY HELPFUL AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PAST HISTORY IS AND OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PREDECESSORS TO PRECEDED US, AS WELL AS ALL OF YOU, BUT UNDERSTANDING THE HISTORY IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT LOOKING AT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LIBRARY IN FUTURE. SO IF WE DO GO WITH THE KIND OF BROAD FACILITIES MAINTENANCE LOOK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO THE LIBRARY THAT THEY DESERVE FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO, AND THAT WE DO A DEEP-DIVE INTO THE HISTORY AND IT'S NOT JUST AN ARBITRARY OF HACKING UP OF WHAT WE THINK IS OUR FAIR SHARE AND THEIR FAIR SHARE. >> WE'RE COMMITTED TO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT AGAIN, THERE IS A LOT OF GRAY AREA HERE, INCLUDING HOW THE JPA GOT FORMED AND SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS OUT OF JPA.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ONE CARD. TOM — >> HE IS NOT PRESENT. >> EXCUSE ME? HE LEFT, OKAY? WITH THAT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY, MS. COMBS YOU HAVE THIS ITEM. >> I VICTIM AND LET ME SAY LET'S CLEAR THE AIR ON THIS HVAC AIR SYSTEM. RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA TO REIMBURSE 50% SHARE OF REPAIR COSTS TO SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY FOR REPAIR OF SCREW COMPRESSOR, AND WAIVE FURTHER READING OF THE TEXT. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. AGAIN LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR FUTURE CONVERSATION ABOUT THERE TO PROVIDE CLARITY FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED IN THIS. >> IT'S ESSENTIAL, YES. >> THANK YOU. >> NO PUBLIC HEARINGS WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS, MR. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU NEED TO SAY ANYTHING