Durham Planning Commission Meeting Jan 3, 2019

>> > > GREAT MID-DAY, EVERY PERSON. > > THANK YOU VERY MUCH. > > THANK YOU.

>> > > EXCELLENT MID-DAY, EVERY PERSON. > > ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MINS OR THE CONSISTENCY DECLARATIONS? > > STACY MURPHY. > > RELOCATED BY COMMISSIONER BRINE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HORNBUCKLE. > > THANK YOU.I ASSUME RIGHT CURRENTLY, MY ASSUMPTION IS A LOT OF OLD WEST DURHAM, MAYBE MAJORITY HAVE DUPLEXES, BUT A LOT DO? THERE ARE A GREAT DEAL OF PEOPLE THAT LEASE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO I'' M UNCERTAIN THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.I THINK THERE ' S OTHER POINTS THAT PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY CHARACTER. TO ME, I THNK IT ' S A REASONABLE REQUEST FOR ONE OR TWO KEY REASONS. ONE IS THAT THING WE'' RE GOING BE DISCUSSING LATER TODAY IS WE HAVE A SCARCITY OF HOUSING FOR ONE BEDROOM SYSTEMS, RIGHT, FOR PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY REQUIRED ONE BED ROOM, TWO BEDROOMS IN THE CITY, THEREFORE TO ME, ANYTHING THAT RISES THE CITY WHILE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE PERSONALITY OF THE NEIGHBOR SHOOD A GOOD IDEA, THEREFORE I THINK UH HAVING A DUPLEX HERE MAKES GOOD SENSE. THE VARIOUS OTHER POINT IS, I BELIEVE E THAT THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT IS GOOD– YOU UNDERSTAND, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE AN MPO RIGHT HERE IS A GOOD IDEA. I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT WE INTENDED WHEN WE PASSED THE MPO, SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO BOOST THICKNESS WHILE STILL TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE CHAACTER.ONE OF THINGS THAT YOU STATED IS THAT YOU PUT ON ' T WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT ' S MASSIVE, A MASSIVE HOUE, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT WOULDN'' T FIT. WHOLE LOT 141 IS 74, 94 SQUARE FEET; IS THAT ABOUT? AS WELL AS BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE MPO THAT CLAIMS YOU CONTAINER ONLY ACCUMULATE TO.325%– 32.5% OF THE LOT LOCATION, THAT EQUATES TO A MAXIMUM OF THE 2,400 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE/DUPLEX. I THINK THAT'' S A REASONABLE-SIZE HOUSE IN OLD WEST DURHAM. COULD BE ABLE TO [INDISTINCT] BUT THAT'' S An OPTIMUM THAT SOMEBODY CONTAINER IMPROVE THIS LOT. TO ME', THAT ' S A SENSIBLE SIZE DUPLEX, SO AGAIN, I BELIEVE HIGHER DENSITY, REASONABLE RISE DENSITY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD MAKES FEELINGS AND'FOR THAT FACTOR I ' M TYPICALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REQUEST.THANK YOU. >> > > THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BRINE. >> > > MANY THANKS. I WISH TO JUST [INDISCERNIBLE] FELLOW COMMISSIONER JUST STATED. I AM ALSO ENCOURAGING OF THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST. ONE REASON CORRECT NON-CONFORMING USAGE AND AS WER GOING TO HEAR LATER, A FEW OF THE PROPOSITIONS AS WELL AS I THINK THEY'' RE STILL WITH ME I WEAR ' T KNOW WHETHER THEY TOOK DOWN THE BOARDS IN THE HALL PREVIOUSLY ABOUT EXPANDING HOUSING TYPES IN DURHAM, BUT DUPLEXES IN VARIOUS PLACES WHERE THEY VRNT BEEN ALLOWED FORMERLY IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED AND HAD THAT ALREADY IN EFFECT THIS REZONING WOULD BE UNNECESSARILY DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT WOULD MAY BY-RIGHT. I ALSO RESEMBLE MR.AL-TURK ' S COMMENT. THERE IS SOME PROTECTION INCLUDED BY THE MPO, SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAY HAVE SEEMED OUT OF HAND PRIOR TO CONTAINER ' T OCCUR ANY LONGER, SO,'THAT ' S ALL. >> > > THANK YOU P. GENTLEMEN, YOU'' RE WELCOME TO TAKE A SEAT, WE'' LL TELEPHONE CALL YOU BACK UP IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER CONCERNS. COMMISSIONER MILLER. >> > > CONCERNS FOR STAFF. IF I RECALL THE MPO CORRECTLY– AND ALSO I'' M NOT SAYING THAT I ALWAYS DO– IT HAS A FALL OF 32.5, BUT THEN WITHOUT RESPECT TO LOT SIZE, THERE IS A CERTAIN MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WOULD MAY EVEN IF THE GREAT DEAL WERE SMALLER SAY THAN 7,500 SQUARE FEET, CORRECT? >> > > THAT ' S CORRECT. REGARDLESS OF THE DETERMINED FAR, EACH PARCEL SHALL MAY AREA AND ALSO NO PARCEL SHALL EXCEED– >> > > THOSE ARE THE OUTSIDE LIMITS.THE OTHER THING I

UH REMEMBER FROM OUR MPO DISCUSSIONS IS THAT OLD WEST DURHAM, GENERALLY, PERHAPS UNLIKE SOME OTHER SINGLE HOUSEHOLD AREA, IT ACTUALLY SATISFIES THE MEDIUM THICKNESS RESIDENTIAL DEMAND OF THE DETAILED LAND USE STRATEGY IN SO FAR AS THE AVERAGE THICKNESS THROUGHOUT THE AREA IS PROBABLY BETWEEN SOMEPLACE IN BETWEEN SIX AND 8 HOME UNITS PER ACRE, CORRECT? >> > > I AM INCAPABLE TO VERIFY THAT. I WILL CERTAINLY– GENERALLY, PER SARA YOUTHFUL. >> > > I LISTENED TO INDIVIDUALS STATING 7 OR SOMETHING BUT I MAY BE MIS-REMEMBERING. >> > > SARA YOUTHFUL, PLANNING DEPARTMENT. IT'' S SOMEWHERE THEREIN. >> > > GREATER THAN SIX? >> > > I BELIEVE >> SO. > > , AS WELL AS OF TRAINING COURSE THERE'' S NO WARRANTY THAT IF THIS REZONING EXPERIENCES THAT WHAT WILL CERTAINLY BE BUILT THERE, WILL CERTAINLY BE AFORABLE, ALTHOUGH I I APPRECIATE MR.McFARLINGS ASSUMPTION, WE I LIKEWISE AM WORRIED REGARDING WHAT MAY HAPPEN ON THIS PIECE OF BUILDING IF WE ADJUSTMENT ZONING TO RU 52 IF EXTENDING REAL ESTATE CHOICES THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE PASS. THIS BUILDING ESSENTIALLY 99 FEET WIDE. 2 PARCELS TOGETHER UNDER THE RU 52 MINIMUM LOT DIMENSIONS, IT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM GREAT DEAL WIDTH. CONTAINER YOU RESPOND TO THAT FOR RU 52? > > MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS LED BY OLD WEST DURHAM COMMUNITY SECURITY OVERLAY IN THIS AREA, I BELIEVE. > > NO, NO, DISCUSSING IF EXPANDING REAL ESTATE OPTIONS. > > I WOULD DEFER TO PERSONNEL ON >> THAT A PERSON. > > I ' M CONFUSED HOW MPO AND EXPANDING REAL ESTATE >> CHOICES WILL INTERACT IF THE PROPOSITION PASSES AS PROPOSED. > > WE WILL BE PROPOSING AMENDMENTS TO MPOs ON THE PUBLICATIONS TO MAKE CERTAIN THERE ' S NO CON FLIBL FLIKTS BETWEEN OPTIONS BEING RECOMMENDED. WE ' RE CONSULTING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH AS WELL. > > WHAT ' S CURRENTLY PROPOSED, IF IT ' S MASQUERADED RU 52 WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM GREAT DEAL WIDTH? > > PROPOSAL WOULD BE 35 FOOT WIDE WHOLE LOT >> SIZE AND A 3,500 SQUARE FOOT GREAT DEAL LOCATION. > >'. SO IT WOULD STILL BE TWO GREAT DEALS. YOU COULDN >> ' T SQUEEZE A THIRD ONE THEREIN? > > PROBABLY NOT, UNLESS YOU DID A VEY SMALL– THERE ' S A PROPOSAL L– WE ' LL ENTER IT LATER, FLAG WHOLE LOT OR COTTAGE WHERE YOU ' >> RE LIMITED YOU CANISTER FURTHER IF YOU DO A SMALL WHOLE LOT YOU ' RE LIMITED TO SMALL HOME EXAMPLE. > > UNDER THE CURRENT–'GOING BACK TO CURRENT ZONING IF THIS IN WHICH TO VISIT RU 52– STRIKE THAT. UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING IN WHICH THIS IS RU

>> 5, UNDER THE MPO THAT ' S BEEN ADOPTED, YOU TIN DEVELOP ADU FOR EACH AND EVERY OF THESE TWO PROPERTIES? > > CORRECT. WITH SINGLE FAMILY– NO, NO. IF THERE ' S A DUPLEX ON IT, YOU COULDN ' T DO AN ADVERTISEMENT. > > EVEN NON-CONFORMING ONE? >> > > CORRECT. THAT ' S BEING RECOMMENDED FOR MODIFICATION. > > THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ONE WHOLE LOT BUT'ON THE UNINHABITED >> WHOLE LOT THERE ' S NOTHING ABOUT THE> MEANS THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ' S CURRENTLY UH DISADVANTAGE FIGURED FOR> STRUCTURE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON VACANT LOT, EXISTS? > > AS FAR AS WE UNDERSTAND, YES. > > AND IT COULD HAVE A AN ADU? > > CORRECT. > > HOW BIG? > > 30 %OF THE PRIMARY, 30 %OF THE LOCATION OF THE PRIMARY FRAMEWORK. > > SO WE ' D HAVE >> TO WRK WITH CALCULUS WITH 225 AND ALSO THAT APPEARS TO BEING A BRIEF THIRD. > > >> THERE ARE EXTRA PROVISIONS– FORGOT– EXTRA STIPULATIONS TO >> MPO THAT PRECEDE THAT. > > MPO ENABLES YOU TO INCREASE. > > A LITTLE EVEN MORE PERMISSIVE BUT IT DISCUSSES ACCESSORY>> FRAMEWORKS AS A WHOLE. > > SO AS OPPOSED TO STRUCTURE DUPLEX ON THIS PIECE OF HOME WHICH WOULD NOT AADU YOU COULD HAVE >> A SOLITARY FAMILY HOME ON ADU AND ALSO THAT COULD BE SEPARATED OR ATTACHED. >> > > PER PRESENT NEEDS, YEAH. > > THANKS. THOSE ARE MY INQUIRIES TO PERSONNEL. ACTUALLY I OPPOSE THIS REZONING. THERE ' S A GREAT DEAL UP IN THE AIR FOR >> HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO WOK IN THIS COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE. SPECIFICALLY AS RELATING TO RU 52 ZONING GROUP. NOW, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS'DIVIDED BETWEEN RU 5 AND ALSO RU 52, DUPLEX ZONE. SO I WOULD SAY IT ' S FAIR TO DEFINE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH I ' M VERY ACQUAINTED IT BEING MAINLY SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS HOMES BUT SOME OF IT DEFINITELY INVOLVE CLUSTERS OF DUPLEXES. IT'' SMY GENERAL REALLY FEELING AS WELL AS BASIC GUIDELINE THAT ZONING BOUNDARIES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS OUGHT TO LEAVE BACK LOT NOT as well as lines DOWN CENTERS OF STREETS IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY AS WELL AS COMMUNITY STRUCTURE, I ASSUME IT WORKS BETTER IF IF WE USE BACK LOT LINES, AND ALSO BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE THIS WOULD MODIFICATION THAT, THAT WOULD BRING DIFFERENT ZONING KEYS IN THROUGHOUT THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER WHICH I USUALLY OPPOSE, AND ALSO BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY HAS A BRAND-NEW APO WHICH TRULY HASN ' T NO ONE UNDERSTANDS HOW IT ' S GOING TO FUNCTION AND MAY ALREADY NEED TO BE TRANSFORMED IF WE ADOPT EXPANDED HOUSING CHOICES PROPOSITION, I WOULD LIKE TO NOT REZONE BUILDING IN THIS AREA UNTIL WE SEE HOW DETAILS ARE GOING TO WORK OUT.NOT ONLY ARE WE CONSIDERING THE A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE ZONING CODE THAT HAVE HAPPENED GIVEN THAT 2006 WHEN WE EMBRACED THE UDO, WE ' RE ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION INCLUDING MODIFICATIONS TO MPO WHICH WE SIMPLY EMBRACED TO MAKE THE MPO SATISFY EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICES THING, SO THERE ' S SO MUCH UP IN THE AIR. I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THE PRESENT SOEPING BOUNDARIES IN THIS COMMUNITY ALONE. NOTING THAT THIS RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY PROPRIETOR, MR. FARLING CAN STILL HAVE TWO DWELLING UNITS ON'THAT VACANT WHOLE LOT AS WELL AS HELD WIND UP WITH HOUSE DEVICES ON THE 2 GREAT DEALS. COULD HAVE THIS EXISTING NON-CONFORMING DUPLEX WHICH MAY THERE BY REGULATION AND HE COULD HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE AND A SIZABLE ACCESSLY DWELLING UNIT EITHER ATTACHED OR REMOVED FROM THAT HOME ON THE OTHER LOT, WHICH COULD KEEP HIS SERVICE EARNINGS FLOW GOING, COULD PROVIDE HOUSING FOR HIMSELF AS WELL AS AGING DADDY ON INTO THE FUTURE.THAT ' S MY UNDERSTANDING. HAS A TENDENCY TO KEEP UP THE LAND IN THIS CASE, THEREFORE GIVEN THAT SO MUCH IS UP IN THE AIR AND ALSO THE AREA HAS BEEN THROUGH A LOT IN THE LAST 15 MONTHS/TWO YEARS OVER ZONING CONSIDERATIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THE

CONCEPT BOUNDARIES IN YOUR AREA ALONE UNTIL EVERYTHING GETS WE and also worked out SEE HOW MATTERS ARE FUNCTIONING. TO HAVE NON-MOVABLE ELEMENT OF [INDISTINCT] GOING ON IN STIPULATIONS OF LAND USAGE IN THE AREA AND ALSO THE ENVIRONMENT SEEMS TO ME AN CHARGE ON THE COMMUNITY AND QUITE TRUTHFULLY IT ' S HARD TO IDENTIFY WHAT TO EXPECT, AND ZONING IS ABOUT ESPECIALLY UH FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY PURCHASED THEIR HOMES NOT ONLY THEIR MONEY BUT THEIR LIVES, REASONABLE ASSUMPTION IS WHAT ZONING IS SUPPOSED TO UH SUPPLY. RIGHT NOW, IT ' S VERY HARD TO KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS WILL CERTAINLY BE AND WHAT ' S REASONABLE AND ALSO WHAT ' S NOT AFFORDABLE WHEN I THINK E THESE FOLKS IN NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR HOODZ DESERVE A BREAK SO I ' LL BE BALLOT AGAINST THIS ONE. > > MANY THANKS. COMMISSIONER GIBBS AND THEN COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. > > I ' M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. I WAS SCARED THIS WAS GOING TO COME UP SINCE THE MPO WAS INSTITUTED, AND ALSO I KNEW IT WOULD– I DIDN ' T ANTICIPATE IT SO SOON. THERE IS A NEED RIGHT CURRENTLY WITH

>> THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY PROPRIETOR, AND IT ' S NOT GOING BE A HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS THAT'' S BEING BUILT OR A HUGE MULTIHOUSE.I THINK WHAT IS BEING SUGGESTED IS REASONABLE, AND ALSO I, WELL, I CONCUR WITH A WHOLE LOT OF THE REMARKS THUS FAR AS WELL AS ALSO THE REMARKS BEFORE MY TALKING. THERE IS SOMETHING TO IT', BUT IT ' S– IF YOU AWAIT'POINTS TO OCCUR AND ALL THE PESTS FUNCTIONED OUT

WITH MPOs And Also THE RECOMMENDED ZONING ADJUSTMENTS AND ALL OF THAT, ALL OF US MAY BE GONE. MR. McFARLING WOULD LIKE TO GET SOMETHING DONE ASAP, AND I DON ' T THINK IT ' S AN UNREASONABLE USE THIS SPECIFIC GREAT DEAL AROUND. THERE ARE EVEN MORE DUPLEXES AROUND AND AS A HOUSE KID THAT USED TO LIVE THERE AND WILL PROCEED TO– I ASSUME HE HAS THE COMMUNITY AT HEART. ANYHOW, I ' M GOING TO ASSISTANCE THIS, AND I ' LL– THAT ' S ALL. > > THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. > > I WISH TO TESTIMONIAL THE ATTRACTING THAT YOU BROUGHT IN. I PRESUME THAT ' S AN ELEVATION OF THE RECOMMENDED PROPERTY? > > [LOW AUDIO] > > YOU MIGHT ENTER THE MICROPHONE JUST FOR PEOPLE AT'HOME. >> THANK YOU. > > THIS ATTRACTING WAS DONE AS >> A SPECULATIVE POINT BEFORE I EVEN CHATTED and also went TO PREPARATION AND ZONING THINKING THAT PERHAPS IF I COULD OBTAIN A THIRD PRINT THAT WOULD FIT WITHIN THE SETBACK TO ENSURE THAT SINGLE UNINHABITED GREAT DEAL NOW AND BEFORE THE MPO OBTAINED PASSED THE ELEVATION I BELIEVE WAS 31 FEET OR SOMETHING> BUT AFTER TALKING WITH PREPARATION AND ZONING FOLKS, UM, AS WELL AS Y ' ALL MIGHT ASSISTANCE ME BELOW A BIT, SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROPOSED LAND USAGE THAT LOCATION COULD ONLY BE MINIMUM 4 ACRES OR SOMETHING WAS REFERENCE AND I DIDN ' T REALLY HAVE SUFFICIENT LAND THERE TO DO PLEX ON THE UNINHABITED WHOLE LOT I WOULD HAVE TO TEAR DUPLEX DOWN AND PUT A FOUR PLEX THERE.DOES THAT SOLUTION YOUR CONCERN? > > IT DOES. UM, AN IN REFERENCE TO MY STATEMENT, ACCOMPLISHMENT AS FOR COMMISSIONER MILLER SPOKE, I DEFRTLY AGREE WITH YOU IN REQUISITES OF WHERE WE ' RE GOING AND ALSO HOW WE TACKLE GETTING GROWTH AND ALSO DEFINITELY EVEN MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT AND ALSO IF YOU CANISTER ACCOMPLISH SAME OBJECTIVE WITH REDUCING EFFECT ON CURRENT AREA AS WELL AS I PUT ON >> ' T SEE WHY IT CONTAINER ' T BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT SAY YOU CAN ' T USE THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY BUT YOU HAD LOTS OF SITUATIONS BEFORE FORMERLY WHERE WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH CHANGING THE ZONING FOR A PARTICULAR LOCATION WITHIN THE VERY SAME AREA AND WHY THAT SHOULD OR MUST NOT MAY, AND ALSO I WEAR ' T THINK THEY WERE HURTING DENSITY BY DEVELOPING A SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS HOME WITHIN ACCESSLY DWAELTINGS BEHIND IT THAT COULD BE USED FOR ITS OWN PROPERTY OTHERWISE BUILDING ON ITS OWN LOTS SO IF WE ' RE WILLING TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING TO ACCOMPLISH IT, WE DO THAT AS WELL AS BEGINNING WITH A TIDY SLATE AND ALSO STILL HAVE TWO SOLITARY HOUSEHOLD DWELLINGS, OFFER OR TAKE, IF THE LOT ALLOWS, BUT I CERTAINLY AM VOTING AGAINST THIS. > > THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. > > I WILL CERTAINLY NOTE COMMISSIONER BAKER HAS JOINED US. EXCELLENT TO HAVE YOU HERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION FROM COMMISSIONERS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? > > ONE INQUIRY FOR MR. McMARLING. JUST AS A POINT OF PASSION, YOU DISCUSSED DUE TO THE PROBLEM ABOUT THE TRANSIENT NATURE IN THE AREA; DO YOU DO LEASES OR MONTH-F TO-MONTHS WITH THESE SYSTEMS? > > NO, SIR, FOR THE PAST 30> YEARS I START OUT WITH A MINIMUM ONE YEAR ' S LEASE. NORMALLY AUTOMATIC MONTH-TO-MONTH AFTER THAT. IF THEY WANT TO, longer-term LEASES. MANY HAVE REMAINED >> WITH MONTH-TO-MONTH. I ' VE HAD TENANTS FOR 6 TO 8 YEARS. LIKE I STATED, I TRY TO REMAIN AWAY FROM TRANCE RENTAL-TYPE SCENARIO. I DID USED TO DO AREA ARTH LEASINGS MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL AREA EIGHT SERVICES WHICH WAS ONE> OF THE FACTORS I LEFT IT. > > MANY THANKS. > > THANKS. > > COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. > > I ' M CURIOUS– IF ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO ADDRESS DEMAND FOR MORE AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE, ASSUMING THIS IS POTENTIAL FOR EVEN MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE NOTION OF NOT GRANTING THIS DEMAND UTILIZING THE EXISTING TO STILL SUPPORT MORE KENSTY WITH SOLITARY FAMILY HOME AND AFTER THAT DEVICE HOME TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF WHAT THE CANDIDATE STATES HE DESIRES AT SOME POINT MOVE BACK IN, HAVE A PLACE FOR >> HIS DAD, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY HIM TO RETURN BUT THEN HAVE AN CHANCE TO STILL HAVE LEASING INCOME BY OFFERING ACCESSORY HOME– AND I RECOGNIZE THERE MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE LINKED WITH THAT– BUT I ' M CURIOUS DOES ANYONE OF YOU HAVE IDEAS ON YOU ' RE ACHIEVING THE OBJECTIVES THAT HAVE BEEN STATED WHILE ATTENDING TO A FEW OF THE WORRIES THAT THE OPPOSITION HAS STATED.I ' LL BE INTERESTED IN HEARING ANY RESPONSES THAT YOU ALL HAVE ARE. > > IF ANYBODY HAS FEEDBACK. COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > AMONG MY CONCERNS IS FOR SEVERAL YEARS AS THE STAFF GRAPH SHOWS– I BELIEVE I HAVE IT WITH ME IF ANY INDIVIDUAL INTENDS TO BE REMINDED– HOUSING IN DURHAM IS ON THE GROUND– AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE IN DURHAM GETS ON THE GROUND. GOT and also subsidized CHARITY BEHIND IT—- RIGHT NOW THIS BOUGHT UNITS DIFFERENTIALS SEPARATES 350 IS THE TYPICAL RATE FOR UNITS IN 2017 VERSUS 200 IS AVERAGE COST FOR EXISTING

UNITS.ANY LINE THAT CANISTER BE DRAWN BETWEEN NEWLY CONSTRUCTED OR RECENTLY CREATED DENSITY IN AFFORDABILITY.> IT COULD HAPPEN BUT IT COULD HAPPEN WITH NO CHANGES TO> THE ZONING CODE. I UH DON ' T THINK WE CAN RELAX THE ZONING CODE INTO AFFORDABILITY. THAT ' S JUST NOT GOING HAPPEN. IT NEVER HAS AS WELL AS IT WON ' T EVER. THAT ' S NOT THE WAY THE REAL ESTATE MARKET WORKS. DO WE DEMAND UNITS? YES. CANISTER WE HAVE UNITS ANOTHER WAY WITHOUT AFFECTING COMMUNITY CHARACTER? MY WORRY IS, IS I PUT ON ' T SEE IT REQUIRED TO THROW THE INFANT OT WITH THE BATHROOM WATER.

I BELIEVE WHAT ZONING DOES BEST WHEN IT ' S A PART OF THIS IS IT MABLGS GREAT LOCATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE– FACET OF WHAT WE CANISTER ACHIEVE WITH ZONING AWAY IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT ANY NEW SYSTEMS ANYWHERE AND IN THIS INSTANCE, I THINK CONCERNING THE RU 52 DISTRICT WITHIN THE OLD WEST DURHAM NEIGHBORHOOD TO ITS CURRENT BOUNDARIES IS IS A MUCH BETTER MEANS TO ENTER STIPULATIONS OF PRESERVING NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER WHICH IS WHAT THE MPO WAS ABOUT AND WHY WE CHOSE IT.WITHOUT NECESSARILY COMPROMISING THE CAPACITY TO OBTAIN THICKNESS IN THIS AREA IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MPO. ONLY IN OLD WEST DURHAM CAN YOU HAVE AN ADU OF'EIGHT HUNDRED SQUARE FEET. EVERYWHERE ELSE IT CAN NOT BE BIGGER THAN BAKER CLAIMED THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE. HUGE HOUSE IN THE AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOU UH MIGHT GET ONE BIGGER BUT NU OLD WEST DURHAM AVERAGE HOUSE SIZE IS SMALL P. BELOW WE COULD DEVELOP 800 SQUARE FOOT ADU ATTACHED TO NEW SINGLE HOUSEHOLD HOME, IT ' S ESSENTIALLY A DUPLEX.SO WHY CHANGE THE ZONING AS WELL AS DISMAYED THE LONG-STANDING as well as reputable ZONING AND ALSO REGULATORY BORDERS

IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? AND INTIMIDATE ITS PERSONALITY. THIS BECOMES THE BASIS FOR THE NEXT PERSON THAT INTENDS TO REZONE HIS RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO RU 52. I WOULD COMMON ZONING BOUNDARIES, AS WELL AS I WANT NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS PARTICULARLY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS– THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO WE DON ' T ZONE WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS ANY LONGER, WE ZONE TO THEM, OVER THEM, THEIR ABILITY TO TAKE PART IN THE PROTESZ WE ' RE GOING DOW NOW IS EXTREMELY TOUGH. WE ' LL ALIENATED THEM WITH COMPLICATIONS– ZONING CODE IS COMPLICATED. THOSE OF United States WHO WORK PERPETUITY HAVE PROBLEM WITH IT.

ALLOW ' S LEE THIS ZONING BOUNDARY ALONE. IF THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER WANTS INCOME FROM 2 RESIDENTIAL HOUSE UNITS ON THIS VACANT GREAT DEAL AND RENTAL EARNINGS FROM TWO SERVICE UNITS IN EXISTING DUPLEX, HE CONTAINER HAVE THAT WITHOUT CHANGING ZONING.I THINK WE MUST JUST DO THIS IT ' S FOR THE PUBLIC GREAT AND ALSO I PUT ON ' T NECESSARILY UH SEE AN OVERWHELMING PUBLIC GOOD FOR CHANGING THE GUIDELINES FOR THE'BENEFIT OF ONE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER IN THIS CASE. WHEN PRESENT RULES ALLOW HOMEOWNER TO HAVE MATTERS HE CLAIMS HE DESIRES TO HAVE AND ALSO CAN HAVE. THIS CIRCUMSTANCES, WE'CAN GIVE FOR OPPONENTS WHAT THEY NEED WHILE THE APPLICANT STILL OBTAINS WHAT HE WANTS. EVERYONE ENTRUSTS TO A COMPLETE BAG. WHY'CHANGE THE ZONING? I PUT ON ' T SEE An EXCELLENT STRONG FACTOR FOR IT AND I ' VE ALSO FOUND OTHER FACTORS THAT PROBLEM ME, ESPECIALLY FOR THE OLD WEST DURHAM AREA, WHCH IS AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN CONFRONTING ENORMOUS GROWTH PRESSURES. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINGS CLEARED UP THERE AWHILE AND SEE HOW IT FUNCTIONS. WE DON ' T EVEN KNOW HOW TO MPO WORKS. MISGIVINGS ABOUT SOME OF THE BOUNDARY WE COLLECTION AT MPO. CONCERNED IF WE ADOPT CHOICES PROPOSALS WE ' LL SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT ALLOW THAT WE WOULD JUST HAVE A MESS, ESPECIALLY IN OLD WEST DURHAM.I THINK WE REQUIREMENT TO TAKE THIS INTO DECIBEL BITES AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE REQUIREMENT DO AS A MATTERER OF NOISE PUBLIC PLAN SO AS A RESULT I ' M AGAINST AS WELL AS I MOTIVATE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO BALLOT AGAINST. > > COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? > > FEEDBACK FROM A PERSON BESIDES MR. MILLER BUT IF THERE ARE NONE I PRESUME I DIDN ' T OBTAIN WHAT I WAS HOPING TO GET BUT I HAVE ADEQUATE DETAILS TO MAKE A DECISION. > > IF IT ' S HELPFUL, I UH HEAR THE WORRIES OF THE HOME. I ' M INCLINED TO ELECT THIS. WHAT I ' VE HEARD FROM'COMMISSIONER AL-TURK AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER SALT WATER RESINATE WITH ME AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS CHALLENGED.

WHILE I LIKE THE ARGUMENT OF IT DOES MAKE FEELING TO GET SETTLED AS WELL AS REGARD COMMISSIONER MILLER ' S PERSPECTIVE, I ADDITIONALLY DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT'HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET EVERY SINGLE TRAIN MOVING IN THIS PROCESS THEREFORE I ALSO >> DON ' T WANT United States TO DECREASE A PROPOSITION THAT I THINK HAS MERIT.SO I ' M INCLINED TO ELECT TONIGHT ' S PROPOSITION DESPITE THE FACT THAT I DO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT HAVE'BEEN ELEVATED. COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. > > IF YOU ' RE READY, I ' LL MAKE A MOVEMENT. >> > > I BELIEVE WE ' RE REDY, THANKS. > > I MOVE WE SEND CASE Z 1800026'ONWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE SUGGESTION. > > SECOND. > > RELOCATED BY COMMISSIONER BRINE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. WE ' LL HAVE ARE ROLL TELEPHONE CALL BALLOT, PLEASE. [ROLL PHONE CALL VOTE] > > ALTHOUGH YOU WEAR'' T VOTE AND YOUR EXISTING, YOR BALLOT WOULD STILL MATTER IN AFFIRMATIVE. WE HAD THAT EARLIER IN ANOTHER PERSON CASE. > > SIMPLY SO INDIVIDUALS UNDERSTAND, I THINK COMMISSIONER BAKER ' S INTENT

IS HAVING ARRIVED AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS CHOOSING TO ABSTAIN SINCE HE WASN ' T HERE FOR THE WHOLE DISCUSSION IS SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONERS DO>, CORRECT CONNECTION. > > NOT ABSTAINED, HIS BALLOT STILL COUNTS AS A> YES. > > WHERE ARE WE ON THE ROLL TELEPHONE CALL VOTE? [ROLL PHONE CALL BALLOT CONTINUED] > > MOVEMENT PASSES 9-4. > > MOVEMENT PASSES 9-4. >> THANKS >> ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND ALSO SUGGESTION, THIS WILL CERTAINLY THEN TRANSFER TO THE CITY BOARD. WE AS COMMISSIONERS CREATE OUR REMARKS DOWN AND THOSE GO TO THE COULD BE SILL AS WELL BUT WE CERTAINLY UH> ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL CONFERENCE WHERE THE FINAL BALLOT WILL CERTAINLY TAKE PLACE AND ALSO THERE ' LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU ALL. WE ' RE GOING TO RELOCATE TO OUR FINAL ZONING MAP CHANGE PRODUCT THIS EVENING: 7. III. Z1800020 PANTHER CREEK-ADJUSTMENT TO MESSAGE COMMITMENTS JUST. AS WE GET THE PERSONNEL RECORD, I DO INTEND TO REMIND COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE CERTAIN YOU SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE. WE ' VE BEEN INFORMED IT ' S IN SOME CASES TOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO US DURING OUR DELIBERATIONS.IF YOU ' RE MIKE ISN ' T WORKING, AFTER THAT WE DREAM YOU LUCK

>>. > > I WILL NOW BE PRESENTING SITUATION Z 1800020, PANTHER CREEK, REVISIONS TO MESSAGE COMMITMENTS. APPLICANT IS DONALD SEVER. THIS 161.162 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED AT 2708 BURTON ROADWAY. THIS SITE IS IN CITY ' S TERRITORY. PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ZONING MAP CHANGE AND GROWTH PLAN ON AUGUST 7, 2002. DEMAND IS TO MODIFY TEXT DEDICATIONS RELATED TO THIS STRATEGY. SITE RECEIVED RED. EARLIER CIRCUMSTANCES OF PANTHER CREEK HAVE BEEN BUILT TO NORTHWEST. SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLANNED GROWTH RESIDENTIAL WITH A GROWTH STRATEGY, PD ARE R 1.690, AND LOCATED IN SUBURBAN RATE.

> > THAT ' S CORRECT. > > AS MUCH AS WE KNOW, YES. > > THANK YOU. > > IT DOES. > > THANK YOU.I WEAR ' T KNOW WHAT ' S TRANSFORMED FROM 2002 UNTIL TODAY, BUT SOMETHING HAS CHANGED THAT THEY CAN ' T USAGE THOSE TWO ROADS ANYMORE TO GO TO REDWOOD ROAD.REDWOOD ROADWAY HAS A DIRECT ACCESSIBILITY TO I 85 SO IT ' S LAID OUT TO GAIN ACCESS TO IN AND ALSO OUT, AND THAT ' S THE TWO THINGS, I PRESUME, THAT ' S PROBLEMS MANY INDIVIDUALS IS THE AMOUNT OF WEBSITE TRAFFIC THAT ' S GOING TO BE COMING OUT. I ' M SURE IT ' S NOT DUCKS UP FIFTY PERCENT THE CREEK THAT FEEDS INTO THAT LAKE BUT THEY ' RE CLOSING THE SWIM LOCATION EVERY YEAR AND THEY PROGRAM IT ON TELEVISION P IF Y ' ALL SAW THAT. > > OH YES,'THE DEVICES– > > ' UZ IT DOESN ' T NAME NAMES IT SPEAKS CONCERNING CONNECTIONS OFF IN AN LOCATION AS WELL AS I ' M TRYING TO MAKE THE– WANTING TO PUT NAMES TO LINKS.

NOW IT ' S COME BACK ONCE MORE TO UH YOU GUYS TO SEE IF YOU ' LL MOVE IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE A FEW OF THE BENEFITS AWAY, AND WITH THE AMOUNT OF WEB TRAFFIC THEY ' RE GOING TO HAVE IN BELOW WITH THESE 272 HOMES, THE IF IT STAYS AT 272, I BELIEVE UH ITS GOING TO BE EVEN MORE THAN 272. I DON ' T KNOW WHAT ' S CHANGED FROM 2002 UNTIL TODAY, BUT SOMETHING HAS ACTUALLY ALTERED THAT THEY CANISTER ' T USAGE THOSE TWO ROADS ANY LONGER TO GO TO REDWOOD ROAD.REDWOOD ROADWAY HAS A STRAIGHT ACCESSIBILITY TO I 85 SO IT ' S LAID OUT TO ACCESS IN AS WELL AS OUT, AS WELL AS THAT ' S THE 2 POINTS, I GUESS, THAT ' S ISSUES THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IS THE AMOUNT OF WEBSITE TRAFFIC THAT ' S GOING TO BE UPCOMING OUT. I ' M SURE IT ' S NOT DUCKS UP HALF THE CREEK THAT FEEDS RIGHT INTO THAT LAKE BUT THEY ' RE CLOSING THE SWIM LOCATION EVERY YEAR AND ALSO THEY PROGRAM IT ON TELEVISION P IF Y ' ALL DISCOVERED THAT. I ' VE GOT A LITTLE VERSION OF IT SO I ' M NOT CERTAIN I ' M SEEING IT EXACTLY AS I SHOULD.WORKING FROM EAST TO EAST. > > OH YES,'THE SYSTEMS– > > ' UZ IT DOESN ' T NAME NAMES IT CHATS REGARDING CONNECTIONS OFF IN AN AREA AND I ' M TRYING TO MAKE THE– LOOKING TO PUT NAMES TO LINKS.FRONTAGE KIND ARE REALLY JUST KIND OF THE FACE OF THE DEVELOPING THAT FULFILLS THE STREET IS AND DOESN ' T ACTUALLY DEALS WITH THE DIMENSION AS WELL AS THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE WHEREAS STRUCTURE TYPE WAS INSTANCE STRUCTURE TPE WE HAVE A MONUMENTAL BUILDING SO THINK OF SOMETHING LIKE THE ORIGINAL COURT HOUSE STRUCTURE IN MIDTOWN WHERE THERE ' S P PUBLIC ROOM AROUND IT AS WELL AS IT DRAWS BACK FROM THE STREET SO THERE ' S A KIND THAT ALLOWS THAT KIND OF SETUP. I MENTIONED THERE ARE TWO CONCERNS TRULY TO THE COMPACT SUBURBAN PATTERSON PLACE.APPLICATION AT-I VISUALIZE WE ' LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.ONE OF THE THINGS WE ' VE INCORPORATE INTO THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE BENEFIT. > > THAT WOULD NEED THAT I ASSUME WE SPOKE ABOUT YEARLY CHECKS TO MAKE CERTAIN THEY ' RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT WHICH I ' M NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE YET BUT WOULD HAVE TO ESTABLISH THAT KIND OF THING.

THEY'' LL SEE OUR COMMENTS AS WELL AS OUR VOTES BUT DO KEEP ENGAGED CONSIDERING THAT THEY ' RE THE FINAL DETERMINANT ON THIS PROBLEM. FRONTAGE KIND ARE REALLY JUST KIND OF THE FACE OF THE BUILDING THAT MEETS THE STREET IS AS WELL AS DOESN ' T TRULY DEALS WITH THE SIZE AS WELL AS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING WHEREAS STRUCTURE TYPE WAS INSTANCE BUILDING TPE WE HAVE A MONUMENTAL BUILDING SO THINK OF SOMETHING LIKE THE ORIGINAL COURT HOUSE STRUCTURE IN MIDTOWN IN WHICH THERE ' S P PUBLIC AREA AROUND IT AND IT DRAWS BACK FROM THE ROAD SO THERE ' S A KIND THAT ALLOWS THAT KIND OF SETUP. I POINTED OUT THERE ARE 2 CONCERNS TRULY TO THE COMPACT SUBURBAN PATTERSON PLACE.APPLICATION AT-I ENVISION WE ' LL GO INTO MORE INFORMATION IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.ONE OF THE MATTERS WE ' VE INCORPORATE INTO THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE BONUS OFFER. WE ' VE BEEN FUNCTIONING WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO NUMBER OUT WHAT ARE SOME WAYS THAT THE REQUIREMENTS CAN ADDRESS SOME ENVIRONMENTAL SECURITY CONCERNS.TWO MATTERS WE HAVE IN CURRENT PROPOSITION, ONE IS TRANSITIONAL USAGE AREA THAT APPLIES, YOU TIN SEE THERE ' S A YELLOW DOTTED LI– TOUGH TO MAKE OUT ON THIS MAP– THAT WOULD BE A TRANSITIONAL USE AREA WHERE ANY ADVANCEMENT WITHIN THAT AREA WOULD CALL FOR MAJOR SPECIAL USE LICENSE WITH A HANDFUL OF FINDINGS THAT ARE SFOIFK THAT SPECIFIC FUTURE SPECIAL USAGE PERMIT. > > THAT WOULD NEED THAT I ASSUME WE CHATTED CONCERNING YEARLY CHECKS TO MAKE SURE THEY ' RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT WHICH I ' M NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IN LOCATION YET BUT WOULD HAVE TO ESTABLISH THAT KIND OF THING.ALLOW US KNOW THAT WANTS COPIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'' RE NOT PRINTING THEM IF YOU'' RE NOT GOING TO USE THEM. WE ' RE HAPPY TO SUPPLY THOSE. >> > > SIMPLY A BREAK ON THAT 200 FOOT TRANSITIONAL USE LOCATION. ONCE MORE, BASED ON WAT I RED, I WOULD COME DOWN TO 300 FOOT BUFFER, BUT ALSO BE PREPARED TO ALLOW SOME EXEMPTION FOR SMALL INTRUSIONS BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE SQUARE VIDEOS OF THAT INTRUGS, WHAT THE OPTIMUM WOULD BE PRIOR TO I WOULD ACCEPT IT, AND ADDITIONALLY TO SIMPLY TO SCREEN MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, IS IT LIKELY THAT THE HOME SIMPLY THE LAND ITSELF THAT IS INSIDE THIS RATE, WILL ENHANCE THROUGH BEING INSIDE THE TIER? >> > > BEING INSIDE THE RATE THEREFORE THERE MAY– THERE'' S DEFINITELY BEEN SOME RISE DEVELOPMENT PASSION IN LOCATION OVER THE PREVIOUS HANDFUL OF YEARS.WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT AS THE PROJECT REMAINS TO PROGRESS AND ALL THIS AREA IS NEAR A STATION THAT THERE WILL BE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT INTEREST AND ALSO GREATER ADVANCEMENT PASSION AND WOULD THEREFORE POSSIBLY HAVE AN INFLUENCE ON THE WORTH OF HOME. > > IN WHICH I ' M GOING WITH THIS IS PROPERTY >> GETS MORE VALUABLE AND DEVELOP GROWTH ON IT, POTENTIALLY YOUR REAL ESTATE TAX BOOSTS AND ALSO IF YOUR REAL ESTATE TAX INCREASES, THEN COST MIGHT DROP. > > YEAH. THAT ' S ONE OFTHE IDEAS BEHIND USING A SYNTHETIC POINTER >> OR SOME OTHER VALUE CAPTURE CHANCE WHICH IS THE RATE PLANNING GRANT I UH MENTIONED EARLIER, A GREAT DEAL OF THAT FUNCTION UH WAS PROBLEM TO TRY TO PREDICT WHAT THE OVERALL IMPACT IN POTENTIAL WORTH CAPTURE BOOST TAX OBLIGATION PROFITS COULD BE.SO I THINK CURRENTLY THAT THAT RESEARCH HAS CONCLUDED, THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE MUCH MORE CONVERSATION REGARDING WHAT WE USAGE THAT DETAILS TO DO IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CONTAINER MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE INCREASE BUILDING VALUE THAT COMES ALONG WITH A TRANSIT FINANCIAL INVESTMENT CANISTER PROVIDE AREA BENEFIT LIKE AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE AS WELL AS IN SOME PLACES ADDRESSING INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, THINGS LIKE THAT. > > THANKS. > > I INTEND TO MENTION THE REPORT IS THE VERY BEST TITLE I ' VE SEEN. STANDARD VERY DRY. NOTE IS CALLED RAISING THE ROOF IS NAME OF THAT REPORT.DEFINITELY WELL WORTH ANALYSIS BEFORE NEXT >> FEETING. COMMISSIONER BAKER. > > SO I ' M INCREDIBLY ECSTATIC ABOUT THIS. I THINK RETROFITTING SU BURR BY YAN IS OBSTACLE OF OUR TIME.

WE HAVE ENORMOUS CHALLENGES WE ' RE STRUGGLING WITH AS A CULTURE AND ALSO AS A CITY >>. THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE CLIMATE MODIFICATION AN EXPENSE OF LIVING WHICH IS INCREASING FOR INDIVIDUALS ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY, A WHOLE LOT OF IT INVOLVES GROWTH ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS WAY WE ' VE BEEN STRUCTURE OUR CITIES OVER THE PAST 60-70 YEARS, COMPLETELY INSUSTAINABLE. THIS IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AN WE ' RE NOT GOING OBTAIN IT BEST ON THE VERY FIRST TIME, WE UNDERSTAND THAT. THERE ' S GOING TO BE OBSTACLES AS WELL AS IT ' S UGLY GOING THROUGH AND TRYING TO TAKE THIS BILTH SETTING,'COMPLETELY CHANGE THE MANNER IN WHICH INDIVIDUALS INTERACT WITH THEIR'ENVIRONMENT, DRIVING, YOU UNDERSTAND, WE'' VE GOT DRIVING FEES OF 97%NOW AND SHOT SEE HOW WE CAN CHANGE THAT. THIS IS TERRIFIC WORK, WORK SIMILAR TO THIS IS SO UNBELIEVABLY CRUCIAL FOR THE FUTURE OF DURHAM. I DO INTEND TO SIMPLY'STATE TWO THINGS, YOU KNOW, NOTHING THAT WILL BE SURPRISING TO STAFF, BUT WHEN WE THINK OF AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE, WE ' RE NOT GOING SET AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH A CAPITAL A WITH An IDEA AND WE ' RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE IT IF WE INCLUDE WITH ZONING A GREAT DEAL OF EQUIPMENT ARE NOT OFFERED TO US IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA BUT WE'REALLY UH NEED TO AS A CITY WE DEMAND TO COME TOETHER AND PUT MONEY WHERE OUR MUTH IS AND ALSO DEMAND TO BE ABLE TO SMEND MONEY ON REAL– SPEND CASH ON REAL BUDGET-FRIENDLY REAL ESTATE, THAT ' S GOING TO BE REAL CRUCIAL LOOKING FORWARD.THE OTHER POINT IS STYLE DUE TO THE FACT THAT HONESTLY WE ' RE NOT GETTING LAYOUT RIGHT IN A LOT OF THE HIGHER THICKNESS DEELOPMENT THAT WE ' RE DOING DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT ' S MIXED USE AS WELL AS OFTEN IT ' S NICE. I UH WORK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, WE

' RE SEEING A GREAT DEAL O REACTION TO THE SORTS OF STACK'AND PACK. THIS BLENDED USAGE ADVANCEMENT THAT ' S HAPPENING IN CHURCH HILL AS WELL AS DURHAM, CHARLOTTE AND ALSO ALL OVER THE NATION, INDIVIDUALS ARE NAUSEOUS'VERSUS IT, AND ALSO SO I THINK A LOT OF IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THICKNESS AS HIGH AS IT IS PERSONALITY AS WELL AS STYLE AS WELL AS SIMPLY TYPE OF ENORMOUS RANGE WE ' RE SEEING, SO I WOULD JUST KEEP THOSE TWO MATTERS IN MIND AS YOU CNTINUE TO MOVE AHEAD IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BUY TRUE AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE IN WHICH INDIVIDUALS WHO REQUIRED AFFORDABLE HOUSING NECESSITY BE LIVE CHG IS AROUND TRANSPORTATION, AND AFTER THAT THINK UH ABOUT HOW WE'MAKE BUILDING RIGHT.YOU DISCUSSED THE FRONTAGE AND HOW DOES THE PEDESTRIAN INTERACT WITH FRONTAGE OF THE BUILDING. SOME WILL CERTAINLY CLAIM I ' M COMFORTABLE, TAKING 15-501 ANOTHER WILL CERTAINLY SAY I ' M NOT COMFORTABLE BELOW AND ALSO POSSIBLY THEY DON ' T KOW THE SUBTLETIES THAT MKE IT A WONDERFUL PLACE OR NOT BUT

I THINK PERSONNEL DOES AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ' RE DOING THAT RIGHT BECAUSE WE REQUIREMENT TO CREATE LOCATIONS THAT'INDIVIDUALS FEELING COMFORTABLE WITH. PRAISE THE FUNCTION YOU ' RE DOING AS WELL AS FIRED UP REGARDING WHAT COMES. > > COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > NEED RESIDENTIAL LOTS OF THIS LAYOUT DISTRICT? > > SO, THE WAY– > > WE INCENTIVIZE IT BUT WE'DON ' T NEED IT SH. > > RESIDENTIAL, NOT PRICE. SOLUTION YOUR INQUIRY? > > YES. > > SO THE PRESENT COMPACT LAYOUT CRITERION NEEDS TASK OVER CERTAIN SIZE, 2 HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO CLOUD RESIDENTIAL PART– INCLUDE A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT BASED ON'THE MINIMUM, VARYING FROM NINE TO 21 IN THE ASSISTANCE 2 APPROXIMATELY THE CORE. THE PROBLEM THAT WE WERE WORRIED CONCERNING WITH THE MIX OF THAT WITH THE ECONOMICAL HOUSING INTOENS THAT IF WE ' RE REQUIRING RESIDENTIAL IN EVERY PROJECT, WE AS WE ' RE TRYING TO SEE TO IT THAT ANY SIDE RESULTS OF F PUTTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING BENEFIT IN POSITION DON ' T ADVERSELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER STRAIGHT AROUND THE STATION WHERE NON-RESIDENTIAL IS GENERALLY UH EVEN MORE APPROPRIATE FROM A PREPARATION VIEWPOINT, PEOPLE ARE EVEN MORE LIKELY UH TO WALK FURTHER HOUSE THAN THEY ARE TO LEAVE THE TRAIN AS WELL AS GO TO A JOB.BUT A GREAT DEAL OF IT CAME FROM TRYING TO FUNCTION THROUGH SEEING TO IT THAT WE ARE BALANCING OUT POSSIBLE SUPPRESSION OF DEVELOPMENT STRENGTH IF INDIVIDUALS PICK NOT TO ADVANCEMENT, BUT WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS. > > SO DID I UH READ THIS CORRECTLY THAT IN THE F 2 SUB AREA WE WILL PERMIT SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS AND DUPLEX HOUSING? > > THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE INCLUDED INTO THE COMPACT SUBURBAN LAYOUT AREA. > > SUBJECT TO HOW LEIGH TOWN GOES. > > YES. WHAT WE WERE ASSUMING IS IS THAT AS LONG AS– BASICALLY IT WOULD BE VERY ADAPTABLE PDR THAT YOU HAVE MEET THAT MINIMUM 9 SYSTEMS PER ACRE THAT IT WOULD BE >> COULD BE A MEANS OF CREATING MORE CREATING HOUSING KIND PEOPLE ARE SORT OF INTERESTED IN DOING THAT WE ' RE ADDRESSING >> SOME HOUSING CHOICES TASK AND SOME OF THEM WERE NOT, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY AND ALSO CONCENTRATE ON MAKING MINIMUM DENSITY NEEDS ARE MET AND OPEN AREAS PROVIDED. > > WE DON ' T HAVE A FRONTAGE TYPE THAT WOULD RETAIN OR CALL FOR [LOW AUDIO] ADVANCEMENTS? > > NO. I THINK THAT IS CORRECT. > > I DON ' T SEE HOW YOU COULD APPLY ANY UH FRONTAGE TYPES TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.'> > RIGHT. > > ARE WE CORRECTING THE FRONTAGE KIND? MY TROUBLE IS, ORDINARY INDIVIDUAL NEED TO BE ABLE TO CHECK OUT FRONTAGE TYPES AND ALSO THEN CONSIDER A BUILDING AND ALSO SAY THAT ' S A– ENED WE CONTAINER ' T DO THAT.

>> I TIN ' T DO IT, MAYBE YOU CAN BUT I CA ' T DO THIS, AS WELL AS I WEAR ' T THINK OUR DESIGN LAWS ARE EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE, SO I DUPLICATE LAYOUT THE> FRONTAGE KIND PS NOR WILL COINCIDE WE RETAIN IN NINTH ROAD? > > YEAH. ADVANCEMENT THAT ' S >> TOOK PLACE AT NINTH ROAD WAS SPENT THE CODE. > > BUT SEVERAL OF IT HAS? > > 2 TASKS. > > 2 EXCELLENT BIG PROJECTS. > > I RECOGNIZE. > > [INDISTINCT] FRONTAGE TYPES IS THE ONES BEING CONSTRUCTED MIDTOWN. > > ONE THINGS WE HAD SEEN IS IS THAT FOR BOAT OF'THOSE PROJECTS ARE RESIDENTIAL AND ALSO FOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS PEOPLE WISH TO– THEY DON ' T WISH TO PUT DIFFERENT USE ON [INDISCERNIBLE] AS WELL AS THEY SO THEY >> INTEND TO PULL BUILDING BACK'MORE THAN THE BUILD-TO ZONE REQUIRES. >> > > INDIVIDUALS REFERRING TO >> DEVELOPERS? > > >> YES. OR INDIVIDUALS DESIGNING THE >> JOB FOR THE >> DEVLOPERS. THEY TEND TO UTILIZE FOUR COURT OPTION WHICH ENABLES TO YOU PULL MORE BACK FROM THE ROAD.> WITH THE COMPACT SUBURBAN LAYOUT AREA BECAUSE WE ' RE DEALING WITH AREAS IN WHICH THERE ' S CURRENTLY EVEN MORE SPACE, LIKE WE DON ' T HAVE THE SAME URBAN CONSTRAINTS WE HAD IN A PLACE LIKE MIDTOWN OR NINTH STREET OR ALSTON AVENUE WHERE THERE ' S EVEN MORE DEVELOPMENT IN VERY URBAN PATTERN ALREADY, TRYING TO TAKE SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WE WERE MORE CONSTRAINEDED ON> AND ALLOW GREATER VERSATILITY TO HOPEFULLY ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS. > > FOLLOW-UP ON SOMETHING MR. BAKER SAID DUE TO THE FACT THAT I ADDITIONALLY AM GET A LITTLE CONCERNED CONCERNING THE WHAT I THINK IS THE OVERUSE OF SECRET CALLED THE STACK AND ALSO SPECIAL-INTEREST GROUP. I REFER TO IT AS THE TEXAS DOUGHNUT BUT THE 5 TALES ON'2 STORIES RESIDENTIAL. IN THE S 1 BELOW DISTRICT, WOULD I BE ABLE TO BUILD 4 TALES ON 1 OR 2 STORIES CONCRETE PLATFORM UNDER THIS PROPOSAL? > > NOT WITHOUT UTILIZING AAFFORDABLE HOUSING BOUS. THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. > > GOOD. THAT ' S WHAT I BELIEVED I WAS READING, I SIMPLY WASN ' T SURE.

>> WHAT CONTAINER I UH BUILD WITHOUT CAPITALIZING ON THE INCENTIVES? > > I BELIEVE IT ' S 45 ELEVATION. > > IN THE S 1? J > > PERMIT ME TO VERIFY.45 IN S 1 AND 35 IN S 2. > > INTERESTING. > > THIS BELONGS TO TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW TO MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONUS OFFER– > > ATTRACTIVE. > > YEAH. > > WHAT ABOUT IN THE CORE? > > SO THE CORE AS MENTIONED, THAT IS THE AREA WHERE WE ARE A LOT OF CURIOUS ABOUT OBTAINING NON-RESIDENTIAL ADVANCEMENT. THE CORE, AS DRAWN IN THESE BELOW DISTRICTS IS FAIRLY'CONSTRAINED, UM, AS WELL AS THE BY-RIGHT– > > SMALLER'PERCENTAGE– > > AND THE BY-RIGHT HEIGHT IN THE CORE IS >> 145 FEET. > > O.K.. >> I STILL THINK IT >> ' S TOO BIG.

MAINLY BECAUSE CORE CONTROLLED.> IF WE DON ' >> T LIKE WHAT ' S HAPPENING, WE CAN ' T FIX IT. I WOULD RATHER >> BEGINNING WITH A STRATEGY THAT SAYS THIS IS THE CORE WE >> ' RE GOING START WITH, THIS COULD BE CORE UNDER THE RIGHT SCENARIOS, AND AFTER THAT WE ' D INVITE PROGRAMMER TO REQUEST FOR REZONING TO CORE AND AFTER THAT CONSIDER THEIR PROJECTS AS WE GO. RATHER THAN BEGINNING WITH SMALL CORE AND ALSO IDENTIFY CORE IN PLANNING PAPER BUT NOT OFF TO BEGIN.THAT ' S JUST AN CONCEPT. SAME POINT WITH S 1. >> THERE ARE ' S AN AREA OF THIS LOCATION THAT DOESN ' T GE TO THE NORTHEAST OR EAST AND ALSO I ASSUME IT NEEDS TO BE S 1, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE S 1 BOX AROUND THE EAST AND NORTH. > > DO YOU INDICATE SUPPORT TWO? > > SUPPORT'2, I ASSUME UH IS BOLD HERE BEHIND DEALER SHOULD BE S 2, TO BEGIN WITH'. I SIMPLY, I DO. BIGGEST CONCERN IS CONCERNING FACT THERE IS NO PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY ON THE VARIOUS OTHER SIDE OF 15-501. I THINK IT NEEDS TO NOT BE COMPONENT OF NO DESIGN AREA. MAYBE ANOTHER THING, BUT IT ' S NEVER GOING COMMUNICATE WITH, IT ' S NEVER GOING TO, IN MY POINT OF VIEW, PROMOTE'BASICS OF STYLE AREAS BECAUSE THERE ' S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WE CONTAINER DO TO MAKE IT PEDESTRIAN ATTRACTIVE. > > [> INDISTINCT]> THERE ' S A LOT OF STUFF TO COVER. I DIDN ' T MENTION THE 15-501 PASSAGE STUDY. WE ACTUALLY, THE MOTIVATION FOR RESTUDYING THAT AREA APPEARED OF F THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS REALLY TRYING TO DETERMINE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO United States TO SHOT AS WELL AS CREATE BETTER CONNECTION THROUGHOUT THAT AREA. WE ' RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH PEOPLE, TEAM, AND THE SPECIALIST ON THAT AS WELL AS A LO'OF– THERE PLACE ' T NECESSARILY BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF CREATIVE IDEAS ABOUT HOW CHANGES TO'THAT HALLWAY MAY LOOK, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF FOCUS

>> BY PERSONNEL REALLY UH FOCUSING ON THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION ACROSS 15-501 AND ALSO ATTEMPTING TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO A GREATER CANISTER NEKTED ROAD. > > I WEAR ' T THINK YOU COULD MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE. DO THIS IF HE NEEDS TO BUT NOT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO. YOU ' RE GOING ASK HIM TO STROLL A FAR AWAY IN CONCRETE ENVIRONMENT THAT ' S NOT EXTREMELY EYE-CATCHING. THAT ' S JUST ME. I BELIEVE UH THIS IS A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE DID YEARS EARLIER AT NINTH STREET. IF YOU HAVE PARTICULAR PROBLEMS THAT YOU WNT TO SEE ADDRESSED.PLEASE FEELING FREE, I WOULD STILL LIKE FOR United States TO MAKE BETTER– > > WE WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS. > > I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS SIGNIFICANTLY. > > MANY THANKS. COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. >> > > THANK UH YOU. LISA, MANY THANKS, THIS IS A FANTASTIC RECORD. THANKS FOR THE DISCUSSION. HOW'POPULAR ARE STYLE DISTRICTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY? THE LENGTH OF TIME HAVE THEY BEEN AROUND? > > SO OUR LAYOUT DISTRICTS ARE SORT OF A HYBRID TYPE BASED CODE WHICH WE DON ' T ENTIRELY REMOVE USED FROM THE FORMULA. WE DO KIND OF UNIFY UTILIZES MAY IN EACH OF THE AREAS QUITE EXTENSIVELY. THEY ' VE EXIST FOR COUPLE DECADES. > > FOR A WHILE AND ALSO PROBABLY ALL OVER THE NATION >>? > > MMHMM. > > I PRESUME I INTEND TO COMPLY WITH UP> ON COMMISSIONER SALT WATER AS WELL AS >> COMMISSIONER BAKER ' S COMMENTS REGARDING AFFORDABILITY. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE ' RE TRYING TO– WE WANT TO HAVE THESE DESIGN DISTRICTS AND NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT THIS MIGHT MAKE DETAILS UNAFFORDABLE, THEREFORE I GUESS I ' M WONDERING DO WE HAVE SOME SOMETHING TO BASE THIS ON'? CONTAINER WE LOOK AT OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED DESIGN DISTRICTS, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO OURS AS WELL AS TO SEE WHAT THE AFFECT ON COST'HAS BEEN? > > I THINK IT ' S DIFFICULT TO> PULL– THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO WHAT IS IMPACTING COST AS WELL AS I BELIEVE IT ' S HARD TO ZERO IN JUST ON PLACING NEW ZONING LIKE THIS IN POSITION'. IT ' S ALSO DIFFICULT FOR US BECAUSE SO A TRANSPORTATION FINANCIAL INVESTMENT'IS SOMETHING THAT ' S EFFECTS PRICE BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT TRANSIT FINANCIAL INVESTMENT SUCCESSFUL THEN E WE DEMAND TO HAVE INTENSITY TO CREATE RIDERSHIP AND TO SUPPORT THAT AND IN ORDER TO CUSTOMIZE THE TRANSPORTATION PATTERNS, IN ORDER TO MANAGE CONGESTION THAT WE ' RE ANTICIPATION, THE METHOD I WOULD LOOK AT LAYOUT AREAS ARE, THY ' RE TRYING TO CREATE A BETTER TYPE FOR CEATOR INTENSITY.WE HAVE INTERESTING ZONING DISTRICTS BUT IN ORDER TO FIT EVEN MORE INTROET WE COULD BOOST INTENSITY. WE WOULD STILL'HAVE AFFORDABILITY PROBLEMS. THE STYLE AREA PIECE IS REALLY TRYING'TO APPEARANCE MORE AT HOW YOU TIN– UH YOU NE, PRODUCING EVEN MORE MIX OF USES AS WELL AS DEVELOPING MORE INTENTION BAR PLACES IN BETWEEN GROWTHS. I FEEL FAIRLY E UH CERTAIN I COULD FIND SOME RESEARCHES THAT HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT AFFORDABILITY AND ALSO FORM-BASED CODES. UNSURE, I BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE CAVEATS TO EXTRAPOLATING THAT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IMPLEMENTING DESIGN DISTRICT, FOR CIRCUMSTANCES. > > NO QUESTION. WHAT STRUCK ME ABOUT PART OF THIS REPORT ON WEB PAGE FOUR YOU STATED THE NUMBER

OF NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THIS AND THAT ' S SOOMINGLY RELATIVELY HIGH NUMBER, GOOD NUMBER, 80% LOSS WITHIN THAT VARIETY, BUT I THINK WE ' RE BOUND TO THAT NUMBER ' S BOUND TO DECREASE IF WE HAVE EXISTING– ONCE MORE, YOU ' RE RIGHT, IT ' S NOT EVEN IF WE HAVE DESIGN AREAS, IT ' S OTHER ELEMENTS ARE CONTRIBUTING. MY PROBLEM IS THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING THESE DESIGN AREAS AND SAYING THERE ' S ONE, WE ' RE PROPOSING ONE DEVICE WHICH IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS OFFER WHICH YOU ' VE ACKNOWLEDGED IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO DO

>> MUCH. > > IT ' S NOT GOING TO RESOLVE THE TROUBLE. > > SO THEN WHY EXECUTE A LAYOUT AREA WITHOUT KNOWING– I IMPLY WITHOUT WAITING ON OR TRYING TO ADDRESS THE INEXPENSIVE HOUSING CONCERN ALSO AT THE SAME TIME? IN REPORT YOU STATE SOME TECHNIQUES THAT COULD ADDRESS THIS IN THE FUTURE ARE XYZ. I ' M FRETTED WE DO SOMETHING SUCH AS THIS AND THIS AREA BECOMES UNAFFORDABLE. > > OUTSTANDING FACTOR IN QUESTION, ABSOLUTELY. AND ALSO I THINK, SO PART OF WHAT WE ' RE TRYING TO BALANCE IN OUR DUTY IS A WHLE HOST OF END RESULTS THAT DEVELOP A'MORE COMFORTABLE CITY.AFFORDABILITY IS A BIG PIECE OF THAT. UM, ANOTHER LARGE ITEM OF F THAT IS CREATING THE STRENGTH THAT WE REQUIREMENT TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT ' S OCCURRING IN PLACES IN WHICH THEY ' RE CONCENTRATED AND WE CONTAINER OFFER WITH TRANSPORTATION EVEN IF IT ' S SOME OTHER KIND OF TRANSIT. AND ALSO SO IT ' S VITAL THAT WE BEGINNING TO FORM OUR ATMOSPHERE IN A MEANS THAT ' S GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF CREATING PLACES THAT INDIVIDUALS DON ' T NEED TO DRIVE EVERYWHERE, WHICH WILL HAVE AN EFFECT ON AFFORDABILITY IN A POSITIVE SENSE, AS WELL AS SO THERE ' S A GREAT DEAL >> OF DETAILS THAT ' S BEEN OCCURRING OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS WITH OUR DIVISION AND ROBINS PERSONNEL AS WELL AS WORKING WITH THE AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE STRATEGIES CONSIDERING WATER MONITORING

AND ALSO THERE ' S A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS IN THE FUNCTIONS WANTING TO WORK TOWARDS THOSE THIS and also objectives IS ONE PIECE OF THAT.I ' M NOT CERTAIN IF THAT'TOTALLY ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERN BUT A MINIMUM OF YOU SEE OUR IDEA PROCEDURE. > > I GUESS WE ' RE GETTING THIS RECORD RIGHT PRIOR TO WE OBTAIN THE BIG REPORT ON HOUSING EXPANSION, WHATEVER IT ' S CALLED, AND ALSO I UH HUNCH WHAT'IF I ' M NOT INCORRECT, I DIDN ' T SEE ANYTHING IN'THERE THAT ADDRESSES– THE MAJORITY OF THAT WAS ABOUT THE YOU ARER RESTRICTION TIER AND SH URBAN TIER AS WELL AS DUPLEXES. THERE'WAS NOTHING THEREIN– I INDICATE THERE WAS SOME REGARDING THAT WOULD ADDRESS HOUSINGISH SHOO UH-UH UHS IN SUBURBAN TIER AND MAYBE IN THIS SPECIFIC SUB DISTRICT OR LAYOUT AREA, BUT I UH AM WORRIED ABOUT TRYING TO GO ON WITH SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE EFFECT ON AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE PRIOR TO WE ADDRESS A FEW OF THE BUDGET FRIENDLY REAL ESTATE PROBLEMS, YOU UNDERSTAND, HOLISTICICALLY.THAT ' S WHY I BEGAN WITH THE CONCERN ABOUT OTHER CITIES. I GET IT. >> IT ' S DIFFICULT TO EXTRAPOLATE, BUT I ASSUME GOING IN WITH MORE INFORMATION OR FULLER INFORMATION WOULD BE BETTER WITH SOMETHING SUCH AS THIS. THIS IS A BIG,'YOU UNDERSTAND, TRANSFORM, SO. > > I DON ' T SEE ANYBODY ELSE WANTING TO MAKE COMMENTS, WE ' LL OBTAIN TO COMMISSIONER BRINE IN A MOMENT. I ' LL MAKE MY REMARKS. IS A PERSON ELSE LOOKING TO MKE COMMENTS? > > GO ON. > > OKAY. BROAD VIEW, I REALLY VALUE THE FUNCTION THAT WENT RIGHT INTO THIS. I SUCH AS THE CHOICE TO SIMPLY DECENTLY WAVE THE BY-RIGHT. I RECOGNIZE WE ' VE GOT TO SEE IT, BUT TO MAKE IT ENOUGH TO BE TRANSIT-SUPPORTIVE. I DID NEED TO SIMPLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SALT WATER ON THE WORRIES OF GOING

WITH'300 FOOT TO 200 FOOT BARRIER. I DON ' T THINK WE ' RE GETTING THE BALANCE RIGHT THERE THAT ' S REQUIRED FROM ARE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AS WELL AS DEDICATIONS WE ' VE MADE, SO I REALLY HOPE THAT ' S SOMETHING WE ' LL MOVE TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT. >> THAT ' S AMONG THE BIG THINGS THAT END UP TO ME THAT ' S FALLEN EXCEPT WHAT I'WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN THIS PLAN BUT THERE ' S A WHOLE LOT OF GA REALLY GOOD IDEAS AND> APPRECIATE >> YOUR DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BRINE, DID YOU HAVE– > > COMMISSIONER GIBBS. > > I WON ' T TAKE BUT JUST A MIN AS WELL AS I CONCUR WITH YOU, AND ALSO I CAN SEE WHERE THIS ENTIRE JOB IS GOING, THIS STYLE PATTERSON AREA, CALL IT STYLE DISTRICT. > > YEAH. THERE ARE SEVERAL STYLE AREAS, THIS WOULD BE AMONG THEM. > > THIS IS OVER LAYOUT. THERE'ARE A GREAT DEAL OF'FACTS THAT I TIN ' T TALK TO DUE TO THE FACT THAT I HAVE SENSATIONS and also point of views AND ALSO WITH ALL BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT'ARE E-BIT-BY-BIT TO WHAT MAKES THIS'WHOLE THING UP, I ' M GOING HAVE TO RESEARCH THIS PRESENTATION, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE INITIATIVE THAT HAS GONE RIGHT INTO IT.P IT AIN ' T EASY AS WELL AS I REALIZE THAT WHICH ' S WHY I ' M NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY> COMMENTS AND ALSO OR MINUS BASED ON'A LT OF DETAILS IN MY HEAD THAT ABOUT ADDRESSING IT, BUT I UH AM A BIG PROPONENT OF KEEPING THE ENVIRONMENTAL INFLUENCE OF REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE RIGHT HERE. >> THE REMAINDER OF IT IS SIMPLY GOING BE THE MORTAR AND HOW WE ' RE GOING TO PUT IT WITH EACH OTHER, APPROVE IT, OR WHATEVER ANYWAY,'I ' LL END MY COMMENTS THERE, BUT I AM GOING TO USE THIS AS ANOTHER HOLY BIBLE FROM THE INTENDING DEPARTMENT, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. > > GREAT GOOD AREA'TO WRAP UP THIS PRESENTATION. [GIGGLING] ONE FINAL QUESTION AND THEN GO ON TO FINAL PRODUCT. > > IS PERSONNEL LOOKING AT'AY SCENARIOS WHERE WE ACTUALLY DON ' T [LOW AUDIO] > > WE HAVE WENT OVER ON MANY AFFAIRS OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS WHETHER IT MAKES FEELING TO CONTINUE MOVING ON WITH THIS AS THERE ' S UNPREDICTABILITY UH ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, AS WELL AS AMONG THE THINGS REGARDING POSSIBLE JOBS THAT WE REQUIREMENT TO BE WORKING WITH THAT ARE IN COME FAKT DEAL COMMUNITY, THIS IS ONE THAT IS RATHER ACCESSIBLE BY ROADWAYS SO WE THINK THAT EVEN IF THE EXISTING LITE RAIL JOB DOESN ' T HAPPEN THIS IS A> GOOD PLAN TO PRODUCE THIS KEY IN OF GROWTH SETTING.WE ABSOLUTELY UH DEMAND TO DETERMINE A METHOD TO CONNECT IT TO OTHER PLACES >> IF THAT PROJECT DOESN ' T OCCUR BUT OUR CONFIDENT THAT CONTAINER HAPPEN GIVEN THE METHOD IT ' S EMBED IN KIND OF >>– > > I AGREE WITH YOU WITH RESPECT TO PATTERSON LOCATION BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A STRING OF PEARLS THAT NOW ARE SHINING FROM CHURCH HILLSIDE TO DURHAM AND CREATING A LITTLE DULLER AS LOOKING TOWARDS RALEIGH, AND ALSO I ' M START TO WONDER, BEING TO THINK IT MAY BE SENSIBLE TO BEGINNING THINKING ABOUT OTHER PATTERNS THAT ARE NOT BASED UPON RAIL SYSTEMS. BASED UPON WHAT I ' VE BEEN ANALYSIS IN THE INFORMATION. > > I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN POSSIBILITY WITH THE UPCOMING STRATEGY FRYING PAN WE ' RE GOING TO BE DOING TO BE ANALYZING

WHAT NECESSARILY IN STEAD OF THE EVEN AND, YEAH, AS WELL AS WE ' LL BE WOKKING ON THAT PARTICULAR IN A TIMELINE THERE MUST BE A DECISION ON FEDERAL FINANCING FOR THE PROJECT WHICH WILL ASSIST United States KNOW HOW >> MUCH OF A STRATEGY B WE NEED. > > I MEAN IF WE ' RE COMMITTED WE NEED TO GO AHEAD WITH WHAT WE ' RE DOING BUT I WAS SIMPLY WONDERING WERE WE READY IF WE DON ' T GET WHAT WE WANT. > > COMMISSIONER SALT WATER THE BIG COATING. > > THANK YOU.

> > THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE INCORPORATED RIGHT INTO THE COMPACT SUBURBAN DESIGN DISTRICT. > > THIS IS COMPONENT OF TRYING TO NUMBER OUT HOW TO MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BENEFIT– > > ATTRACTIVE. > > NO QUESTION. > > THIS IS ABOVE DESIGN. > > THANK YOU.WE ' VE TAKEN A LOOK AT FIGURES CURRENTLY ONTHE PUBLICATIONS FOR ZONING AREAS AS WELL AS USE THOSE FOR MODIFICATIONS AS YOU ' VE SEEN AND ALSO HOPEFULLY YOU ' VE SEEN IN DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS THROUGH OPEN HOUSES YOU ' VE SEEN THESE WAT WE ' RE PROPOSING AT THIS TIME TO CHANGE THEM DOWN BY ONE STEP. WE HEARD REMARKS OR INTEREST IN ALLOWING PEOPLE TO DO– THERE ' S NO MINIMUM– THE ZONING DOES NOT NEED A MINIMUM HOUSE SIZE AS WELL AS THERE ' S BEEN A LOT OF PASSION IN SMALL HOUSES– NOT SPEAKING ABOUT TINY HOMES, BUT SMALLER HOUSES AND ALSO THAT THERE ' S NOT A NEED FOR LARGER LO FOR A SMALLER HOUSE.SO WE HAVE PRESENTED THE REAL ESTATE TYPE THAT ALLOWS FOR A SMALLER LOT SIZE, PROBABLY AROUND WHAT WE PROPOSE AROUND TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET BUT IN PROFESSION YOU ARE CAPPED AT THE SIZE OF THE HUSE THAT YOU CAN PUT ON THAT GREAT DEAL. I PUT ON ' T KNOW IF WE ' LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE ACTIVE TIME SINCE OF THE DEMAND TO COLLECTION ASIDE LAND JUST FOR OPEN SPACE, NOT QUITER SURE THESE ARE EXTREMELY REINFORCEMENT BUT URBAN TIR SETUP, BUT THEY ' LL BE CHECKED OUT THROUGH COMPENSATION PLAN AS WELL AS SUCH.THERE ARE OTHER ADDED ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE ' VE NOTED IN THE POSTERS AND ALSO ONLINE THAT I ' LL BE DELIGHTED TO ANSWER FOR YOU.

-WE ' RE NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING THAT ' S BRAND NAME NEW.THERE ARE SIMPLY A NUMBER OF THEM IF YOU LOOKED AT PRESENTATION ALREADY OR LOOKED ONLINE THERE ARE SOME GNERAL TOPICS THAT WE ' RE LOOKING TO MODIFY OR ADD TO. WE ' VE TAKEN An APPEARANCE AT NUMBERS CURRENTLY ONTHE PUBLICATIONS FOR ZONING AREAS AS WELL AS USAGE THOSE FOR ADJUSTMENTS AS YOU ' VE SEEN AS WELL AS HOPEFULLY YOU ' VE SEEN IN DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS THROUGH OPEN HOUSES YOU ' VE SEEN THESE WAT WE ' RE PROPOSING AT THIS TIME TO CHANGE THEM DOWN BY ONE STEP. WE HEARD REMARKS OR INTEREST IN ALLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO DO– THERE ' S NO MINIMUM– THE ZONING DOES NOT CALL FOR A MINIMAL RESIDENCE SIZE AS WELL AS THERE ' S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST IN SMALL RESIDENCES– NOT SPEAKING ABOUT SMALL HOUSES, BUT SMALLER HOUSES AND ALSO THAT THERE ' S NOT A NEED FOR LARGER LO FOR A SMALLER HOUSE.SO WE HAVE INTRODUCED THE REAL ESTATE TYPE THAT PERMITS FOR A SMALLER WHOLE LOT SIZE, PROBABLY AROUND WHAT WE PROPOSE AROUND 2 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET BUT IN TRADE YOU ARE CAPPED AT THE DIMENSION OF THE HUSE THAT YOU CAN PUT ON THAT LOT. I DON ' T KNOW IF WE ' LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE ACTIVE TIME BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND TO COLLECTION ASIDE LAND SIMPLY FOR OPEN AREA, NOT QUITER SURE THESE ARE REALLY REINFORCEMENT BUT URBAN TIR SETUP, BUT THEY ' LL BE EXPLORED THROUGH COMP STRATEGY AND ALSO SUCH.THERE ARE VARIOUS OTHER ADDED MODIFICATIONS THAT WE ' VE NOTED IN THE POSTERS AND ALSO ONLINE THAT I ' LL BE GRATEFUL TO ANSWER FOR YOU. AND AFTER THAT AS SOON AS YOU ' VE MADE RECOMMENDATION, WE ' LL ROUTINE FOR ELECTED BODIES, WE ' RE SHOOTING FOR APRIL, MAY AT THE LATEST.WHAT, IN THESE PROPOSALS, COMPARES TO ACQUIRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE IF ANYTHING? >> > > THIS IS An EMPHASIS AROUND PRIMARILY THE URBAN RATE WHICH THERE ARE SOME, THE TRANS STATIONS HAVE THEIR OWN CLASSIFICATION WHICH ARE THE COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD TIER. >> > > SO THIS IS NOT LIKELY TO ASSIST IN THE COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD TIER, IS THAT WHAT I'' M HEARING YOU STATE? > >> WELL, WE RECOGNIZE THERE IS A SELECTION OF VARIOUS GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES AND OPTIONS WE CONTAINER SUPPLY. WE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED IT ON ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT DURHAM'' S GOING TO NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THERE ' S SOME STRUCTURE OUT CURRENTLY UH SEEN IN TYPICAL SUBURBAN ADVANCEMENT TOWARDS THE JS AND ALSO THAT'' S BECOMING EVEN THAT IS STARTING TO COME TO BE INCREASINGLY MORE COSTLY AS LAND IS JUST GENERALLY BECOMING MORE AS WELL AS EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE AND TH DIFFICULTIES, THERE'' S NO EASY LAND AROUND TO DEELOP.THERE '

S GREAT DEALS OF ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES PARTICULARLY WITH THAT SAID LAND OR STRUCTURE UP WHICH IS HAVING A LOOK AT GENERALLY AROUND DOWNTOWN IN WHICH YOUR COMPACT COMMUNITY TIERS AND AFTERWARDS TAKING An APPEARANCE AT WHT ASPECTS OF STRUCTURE IN CAN WE ACCOMPLISH. >> > > OKAY. ONE FINAL CONCERN. THIS STUDENT WAS AVAILABLE IN SOUTH DURHAM. IF YOU'' RE NOT CAREFUL, WHAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN BASED ON SOME DEVELOPERS I'' VE TALKED WITH IS IF THEY CONTAINER GET IT FROM THE PROPRIETORS THEY WANT THE COMMUNITY HOUSES.TOWN HOUSES SEEM TO BE NOW. IS THERE ANY METHOD THAT THESE CHANGES CANISTER MAYBE AID INDIVIDUALS DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, MAKE DETAILS IN THIS LAND THAT ' S AVAILABLE EVEN MORE AFFORDABLE? > > I INDICATE THAT ' S A DIFFICULT >> QUESTION TO RESPONSE. I MEAN, LAND IS JUST GOING ENDING UP BEING A GROWING NUMBER OF EXPENSIVE AND ALSO TOWN RESIDENCES ARE PREFERRED BECAUSE, A, YOU TIN PROVIDE MORE DEVICES BASED UPON THE LAND YOU'' RE SPENDING FOR AND ALSO IT'' S BUILT UNDER SAME DRN ONCE UH YOU OBTAIN TWO QUADS AS WELL AS SMLL APARTMENTS YOUR UNDER BUSINESS CODE AS WELL AS STRIKING HOST OF ADDITIONAL REGULAR HATORY DEMANDS. >> > > MANY THANKS. COMMISSIONER MILLER. >> > > AMONG THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS THE– FORGIVE ME, PATRICK YOU MIGHT WISH TO ACTION IN– IF I RECOGNIZE THE CURRENT PREPARE FOR APPLY KABILITY IS GOING TO BE ANYTHING IN THE OPEN RATE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF RS-20. THE MOST SIGNIFICANT RS-20 I UNDERSTAND IS WOODLAND HILLS. >> > > NO INTEBT TO EXEMPT THAT COMMUNITY, THE PURPOSE WAS TO PUT ON THE URBAN RATE AND TO THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL URBAN RU ZONING DISTRICTS A FEW OF WHICH REMAIN IN THE URBAN TIER.COMMISSIONER SALT WATER

INQUIRED ABOUT PALSY. > > BUT WE ALSO HAVE RS ZONES IN>– SO RS # AND RS-10 REMAIN IN THE URBAN TIER AND ALSO WE ' RE APPLYING IT TO THAT'. NOT APPLYING IT TO UNUSED LAND. WHAT WOULD BE THE OPTIMAL ADVERTISEMENT NUSHGS RS-20 if I UNDERSTAND THIS APPROPRIATELY. > > ADU PROVISION WOULD RELATE TO ANY UH RESIDENTIAL. IT ' S NOT LIMITED. AS I TRIED TO EMPHASIZE IN MY COMMENTS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THESE PROPOSALS WERE IN CONTEXT AS WELL AS INC. MENTAL. 20 IS MUCH LESS THICKNESS ZONING AREA AND FULL APPLICATION OF EVERY ONE OF THESE PROVISIONS WE DID ELUDE TO ADU CRITERIA AND SOME WOULD APPLY RS-20 BUT TO APPLY UH ALL CRITERIA WOULD BE OUT OF CONTEXT. WE NEED COMMENTS ON THAT. > > I WANTED TO KNOW REASONING IS. I ' M NOT ARGUING. >> > > SURE. > > SO I ALSO WISH TO UNDERSTAND THE– STRIKE >> THAT– >> THE ADU AREA PROPOSAL.ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS BASED ON THE OLD WEST DURHAM EXPERIENCE IS

THE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE THE WHOLE LOTS ARE 50 BY 150 OR 50 BY 100 OR SMALLER AND ALSO SOMEONE CONSTRUCTS AN ADU BACKYARD, IT CONTAINER CONTROL THE BACKYARD PERSONAL PRIVACY IF YOUR HOUSE HAS IT ON EITHER SIDE. RESEMBLES YOU ' RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT TO MAKE CERTAIN AD SUSHGS CLOSER TO PRINCIPLE HOME. WHAT I DIDN ' T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ' RE STATING ON THE POSTER FOR THAT, CONTAINER YOU DESCRIBE IT FOR ME SO I RECOGNIZE IT BETTER'. > > BIGGEST ADJUSTMENT WITH AREA DEMAND NOW THEY ' RE REQUIRED TO BE TO THE >> BACK OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. WHAT WE ' RE PROPOSING IS TO ALLOW OPPORTUNITY TOTHE SIDE. > > TO THE SIDE, DOYOU MEAN AROUND LITERALLY TO THE SIDE. > > THE SIDE OF IT. >> MUCH OF YOU HAVE SEEN SEPARATED GARAGES THAT ARE TO >> THE SIDE OF A HOME, SO WE ' RE LOOKING TO MAKE THAT ALLOWANCE ALLY TO ADUs. GENERALLY PROPOSING IS TO THE BACK FIFTY PERCENT OF YOUR HOUSE SO IT ' S NOT RIGHT IN ADVANCE WITH THE PRIMARY FRAMEWORK. > > THAT ' S THE COMPONENT I DIDN ' T UNDERSTAND.WHAT ' S THE >> BACK'HALF? > > STROLL DOWN'TE SIDE OF YOUR HOME YOU HAVE FRONT HALF AS WELL AS BACK HALF. > > O.K.. > > WHEN WE BRING MESSAGE WITH YOU, WE ' RE BATTLING WIH THE APPROPRIATE PHRASING FOR> THAT TOO BUT THAT ' S GENERAL THINK IDEA. > > MY OWN PREFERENCE ADUs IS THEY BE UP CLOSER TO THE FRAMEWORK TO WHICH THEY ' RE ACCESSORIZED, THEREFORE THE BACKYARDS ARE TOTALLY FREE SINCE I THINK THAT ' S WHAT NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR TOPIC TO.'ALSO REQUIRING REALITY AND ALSO I WEAR ' T UNDERSTAND, STRUGGLING BY THE TREE TO BE WINDOW DRESSING TO ME.RS-LINE UP WITH THE SCENARIO OF WHERE ON'A SMALL GREAT DEAL YOU CAN HAVE A DEEP BREAK AS WELL AS ADU AND ALSO REQUIRE A TREE IN THE YARD NOT GOING TO HAVE MUCH SPACE FOR IT.I ' M NOT CERTAIN I COMPREHEND IT, SUPPOSE THE TREE DIES? ZONING VIOLATION? > > YEAH. THE TREE NEED IS

ACTUALLY STOLEN FROM THE OLD WEST DURHAM. > > AND I ' M NOT MAKING ENJOYABLE, I ' M> WORRIED ABOUT– > > TREE NEED– SO WHAT THE TREE NEED DOES IS> PAIR MATTERS. A, IT ASSISTS ADDRESS POTENTIAL LOSS OF TREE CANISTER P PI WHICH IF YOU ' RE GOING ENABLE ADVANCEMENT YOU ' RE GOING LOSE TREES. YOU ' LL BE SEEING ACTUALLY A DIFFERENT ZONING MESSAGE CHANGE WHICH BRINGS EVEN MORE TREE COVERAGE DEMANDS AS WELL AS SUCH NEXT MONTH. BUT WHAT IT LIKEWISE DOES IS START TO DECREASE OR PREVENT ADDED IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA, SO IF YOU NEED TO HAVE A TREE OR SHOW EITHER MAINTAIN A TREE OR PLANT ONE, YOU START TO MANDATE A LITTLE BIT LESS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. COUPLED LIKEWISE WITH THE DRIVEWAY DEMANDS, REDUCING SIZE OF THE DRIVEWAY. > > DRIVEWAY NEED WAS MAKE FEELING, I WAS HAVING PROBLEM UNDERSTANDING HOW THE TREE POINT WAS GOING TO FUNCTION. > > TREE WAS REAL LAY SIMPLE BUT EFFECTIVE> WAY OF TRYING TO PRESENT MORE TREE CAN AND ALSO A VERY SIMPLE METHOD OF DOING IT THAT ' S UNDERSTANDABLE TO ANY PERSON WHO> ' S LOOKING TO JUST BUILD A RESIDENCE OR AN ADU OR SOMETHING. > > TREE IS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT TREE CANISTER SPOI'THIS HAS GOT TO BE A COVER TREE. > > TREE COVER WE ' RE TALKING ABOUT EITHER UNDERSTORY OR COVER TREE BECAUSE> THERE ARE VARIOUS PLANTING LOCATION DEMANDS AS WELL AS RESPONSIBILITIES FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS. >> ALSO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE CURRENT ROAD REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED ON PERSONAL PROPERTY SO THOSE ARE ADDITIONALLY PRESENTLY REVIEWED AND IMPOSED, SO REALLY IT ' S JUST ADDING AN EXTRA CHECK BOX TO SEE IF THERE ' S A TREE THERE WHETHER KEPT OR PLANTED. > > AND AFTER THAT IN FILL REQUIREMENT THING, IF I COMPREHEND IT PROPERLY TODAY, THE IN FILL SPECIFICATIONS BASED UPON THE CONCEPT OF TURN PROBLEMATIC WRITTEN INTO THE CODE, GREAT DEALS AND ALSO GREAT DEALS OF THEM [INDISCERNIBLE] IF I RECOGNIZE IT APPROPRIATELY IN FILL RESIDENCE IN THERE HAS TO BE [BASICALLY STATES INDISCERNIBLE] IN SOME METHOD TO THE AVERAGE HEIGHTS OF SOMEHOW OF THE HOUSES ON THE BLOCK BASE, BUT IF YOU HAVE EVEN MORE THAN 25 SPLITTING UP FROM NEAREST HOUSE YOU ADD 14 FEET TO THAT STANDARD FIGURE AS LONG AS YOU PUT ON ' T MAX OUT 85 FEET REQUIREMENT; IS THAT RIGHT, THAT ' S THE CURRENT? > > NO, BIT DIFFERENTLY AS WELL AS THAT ' S WHY WE ' RE CHANGING IT.YOUR HELD TO EITHER THE ZONING HEIGHT OR 1 FEET WHICHEVER IS LESSER. THAT 25 FOOT YO ' RE TALKING ABOUT IS DUMPING THAT'14 FOOT HAT, PER SE >>. SO WE ' RE CLARIFYING HOW'AND ACTION YOU CONTRAST THE ELEVATION TO– > > 35 FOOT IS DEMAND NO ISSUE WHAT. > > IT LIKEWISE NEEDS YOU WHAT WOULD BE THE LESSER. IF THE LESSER IS WHAT IS– > > AREA OF ONE STORY HOMES AS WELL AS UNDER THE PRESENT GUIDELINES YOU TIN ' T CONSTRUCT ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL OR LARGER THAN A ONE TALE HOME UNLESS YOU ' VE GOT 25 FOOT SPLITTING UP;? > > NO.YOU CA ADD, IT ENABLES AN ADDITIONAL TALE >>, 14 FEET GIVES YOU AN ADDITIONAL TALE. > > REALLY NOT A STANDARD DEVELOPMENT [INDISCERNIBLE] BECAUSE STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS RESIDENT UNLESS APARTMENT ROOF IS SAY ROUND 18-22 FEET. YOU ' RE SETTING> [INDISCERNIBLE] THIS IS SIMPLY SQUANDERED PAPER IN THE CODE. > > WE CONTAINER TAKE A LOOK AT IT >>. THAT ' S A COMMENT WE ' D LIKE TO LEARN THROUGH. > > I WEAR ' T THINK OUR USUAL REQUIREMENTS ARE– IF JEFF WAS STRUCTURE THAT CREATED SO MUCH LAW THERE UNDER EXISTING IN FILL REQUIREMENTS TO PRODUCE AN MPO FOR THEM, OUR IN FILL SPECIFICATIONS ARE NOT STANDARDS.THAT ' S MY OBSERVATION. YOU WEAR ' T HAVE >> TO RESPOND. > > I UH WASN ' T GOING TO. >> [GIGGLING] > > I WISH TO HAVE BECAUSE PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION, PATRICK, IS THAT WE INTEND TO SHIELD THE PERSONALITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS DO THAT'WITH IB FILL REQUIREMENTS BUT I DON ' T THINK WE HAVE >> IN FILL REQUIREMENTS. WE ' RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING RELAXING THEM BUT IT ' S ONLY A COUPLE FEET OFF THE OPTIMUM IS ANYHOW. IT ' S EVEN MORE OF An IRRITATION THAN PERSONALITY SECURITY AND I ' M ALL FOR EXAMINING PERSONALITY, I ' M AGAINST REGULATION FOR THE OBJECTIVE OR E EFFECTIVE MERELY IR STATING. > > APPRECIATE YOUR POIT. WE DO TAKE THE NEED TO PROTECT CONTEXT REALLY SERIOUSLY. WE ALSO CONCERN CANDIDLY, THAT AN INDIVIDUAL DEFENSE OVER LAY IS EXCELLENT DEVICE FOR AREA BUT COLLECTIVELY WITH TIME LIKE CHURCH HILLSIDE AND RALEIGH THAT HAVE MORE THAN A LOADS, IT COMES TO BE CONSIDERABLE CONSTRAIN ON HOUSING SUPPLY AND AFFORDABILITY.WE THINK IT ' S REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU COULD HELP US, WERE ALL EARS, REALLY, TO CRAFT REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE CONSIDERABLE PURPOSEFUL IN FILL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE AMRIBLG AND ALSO DEFENSIBLE THAT COULD BE APPLIED ACROSS BAN BELOW TO ALLOWS– THROUGHOUT URBAN TIER. WE BATTLE DAILY TO TRY

TO DISCOVER THAT'. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU SEEM LIKE WE ' VE MISSED THE MARK. WE ' D LOVE YOUR INP PUT ON SPECIFICATIONS WE COULD APPLY BROADLY THAT WOULD GET THAT DEEPER DEGREE OF COMMUNITY BUY IN.THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALL AREAS ARE DEALING WITH. NORTH CAROLINA HAS MADE IT MUCH, MUCH HARDER BY NOT ALLOWING US TO CONTROL DESIGN O DESIGN. I ' M A BELIEVER THAT IF YOU STYLE DESIGN WE COULD GET 90%OF THE MEANS THERE.

> > I RECOGNIZE THAT AS WELL AS I DESIRE TO MAKE MY FINAL FACTOR. I AM CONCERNED THAT BY DOING EVERY ONE OF THIS BY-RIGHT, LEAVES OUT ORDINARY INDIVIDUALS CURIOUS ABOUT WHOLE PREPARATION PROCESS IS THE HOUSE THEY BUY O WHERE THEY LIVE FROM HAVING ACTIVE ONGOING SAY IN THEIR CREATING REGULATORY ATMOSPHERE. ZONING VIABLE ONLY IF IT PROTECTS THE GENERAL PUBLIC WELFARE BUT MAKE IT TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC CANISTER ' T TAKE PART EFFICIENTLY IN THE PROCESS AND ALSO WE ' VE BEEN EXCELLENT AT THIS, WE ' VE REDUCED PUBLIC UPCOMING TO THESE HEARINGS AS WELL AS SAYING NO– DO THAT ANY LONGER, I CHALLENGE THAT.SOME OF THESE SPECIAL THINK FIGHT IT OUT PLACE PROPOSITION NOT HAVING An USAGE LICENSE WHICH AFTER THAT WOULD ALLOWED A DROESZ IMPOSE PROBLEM– WORRY ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING TO GO AWAY. AS LONG'AS ORDINARY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A SNA THE MEANS THEY PROVIDED CHANGE. USE LICENSE COME UP AND ALSO SAY I WEAR ' T SIMILAR TO THIS AS WELL AS BOARD OF CHANGE SAY DON

' T EMPLOY INDIVIDUALS [INDISCERNIBLE] DIDN ' T LIKE IT, THAT ' S NOT OUR REASON FOR TURNING IT DOWN, BUT I THINK WE CONTAINER HAE STANDARDS, PARTICULARLY AS IT ASSOCIATES WITH COMPATIBILITY AND PARKING AND OTHER PROBLEMS WE CURRENTLY ADDRESS IN OUR CRITERIA FOR USE ALLOWS.—- LIKEWISE PERMIT COMMON PEOPLE TO PROCEED HAVE HAVE A HAND ON THE STEERING WHEEL IN PREPARATION AS WELL AS ZONING ATMOSPHERE. THAT'' S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. > > THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND COMMISSIONER BAKERER AND AFTER THAT COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. > > I FORGOT. > > WE ' LL RETURN TO YOU AND ALSO IF YOU REMEMBER.COMMISSIONER BAKER. > > I BELIEVE THIS IS REALLY GOOD FUNCTION, REALLY IMPORTANT WORK. I UH DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE SPIRIT OF THE WHAT YOU ' RE DOING. DISADVANTAGE TICKET WALL COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS I BELIEVE, ARE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT REQUIRED TO BE DUG INTO EVEN MORE. I DO THINK IT ' S FEASIBLE TO RISE DENSITY AND IN FILL >> SITUATIONS WITHOUT WRECKING PERSONALITY OF COMMUNITY. I ASSUME WE COULD ACTUALLY IMPROVE PERSONALITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS, A GREAT DEAL OF OUR FAVORITE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY ARE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SELECTION HOUSING KIND THAT TEND TO BE HISTORIC.I DO THINK SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS WILL PROBABLY EXPERIENCE, WILL BE PASSED AND COME TO BE REGIONAL LAW. I DO THINK UH THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE DEVELOPERS AVAILABLE THAT WILL CERTAINLY TAKE BENEFIT IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT LOCAL GROWTH SO ANTICIPATING TO THE BEST EXTENT FEASIBLE SEEING TO IT WE ' RE LOOKING AHEAD TO AS MUCH AS WE CAN REALLY IMPORTANT HAVE SOMETHING SEVERAL OF THE POINTS THAT COMMISSIONER MILLER MENTIONED, MAYBE THINKING ABOUT HOW CONTAINER WE MAYBE NOT MAKE EVERYTHING BY RIGHT BUT SAY YOU WISH TO GO UP TO TWO OR 3 OR FOUR SYSTEMS, HERE ' S WHAT YOU NEED TO SUPPLY. I WEAR ' T KNOW QUITE ENOUGH ABOUT THE REGULATION IN TERMS OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY ALIGNED WITH LAYOUT STANDARDS.IF THERE ' S SEVERAL OF OF INCENTIVIZING HIGHER THICKNESS THROUGH LAYOUT SPECIFICATIONS. OBVIOUSLY IT ' S INCENTIVE FOR AREA TO ALLOW NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR SOMETHING THAT ' S HIGHER THICKNESS 4 OR FIVE DEVICES OR EVEN MORE WITH STYLE CRITERIA IF THAT ' S FEASIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT MIGHT BE A METHOD OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO ASSISTANCE THIS. IT LOOKS LIKE ALL OF THIS IS DWA DW DW DW DWAERED TAILORED TOWARDS IN FILL. I WONDER– A GREAT DEAL OF INDIVIDUALS BEING PRESSED OUT OF IN FILL AREAS. I PUT ON ' T KNOW IF YOU CONTAINER TALK TO ANYTHING THAT PERTAINS CONCERNING COMMUNITY DESOIN REQUIREMENTS. > > WE ' RE LOOKING TO CHANGE THE CROSS SUBDIVISION NEED WHICH IS WE ' RE SEEING A GREAT DEAL MORE ASK FOR AND PRESERVATION TO ALLOW EVEN MORE VARIETY OF REAL ESTATE'TYPES TO BE PROVIDE WITHIN THOSE GROWTHS, PARTICULARLY DUPLEXES THROUGHOUT DESPITE PRESERVATION SUBDIVISIONS TOWN HOUSES TOO.CURRENTLY HAVE HIGHWAY THICKNESS BONUS THAT ENABLES COMMUNITY HOUSES. I BELIEVE THIS COULD BE EVEN MORE URBAN RATE, I COULD BE WRONG. THIS IS THE ONE AREA IN WHICH WE ARE INTRODUCING MULTIPLEX ALTERNATIVE. >> MULTIPLEXES ARE CURRENTLY A REAL ESTATE OPTION WITHIN UDO, SIMPLY SMALL BUILDINGS, RECOMMENDING THEM ALONG MJOR THOROUGHFARES AND BOULEVARDS, SO WE ' RE STARTING TO CHECK INTO THAT. I BELIEVE WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE THOROUGH STRATEGY PROCESS AS WELL AS HAVE A LOOK AT HOW DURHAM SEES ITSELF EXPANDING IN NEXT COUPLE DECADES WE '

LL HAVE BETTER HANDLE ON WHERE TO INTRODUCE THESE A LOT MORE DIFFERENT MORE INTENSE HOUSING TYPES, THE THREE OR FIVE-UNIT REAL ESTATE, GARDEN-STYLE HOMES, AND AFTERWARDS ADDITIONALLY PRESENT CONNECTED DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE TOO BECAUSE WE DO ANTICIPATE THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE SOME CHANGES TO THE STATUTE AS SOON AS THE DETAILED STRATEGY IS EMBRACED. > > PROMPTLY INCLUDE ON TO WHAT MICHAEL SAID. I THINK COMMISSIONER BAKERER AND MILLER AS I ASSURED COMMISSIONER MILLER WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE A TOUGH APPEARANCE AT THE IN FILL SPECIFICATIONS AND N PRODUCTION SURE WE GO AS MUCH AS E WE CONTAINER UNDER REGULATION TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THEY ARE PROTECTIVE O EXISTING PERSONALITY, BUT IN TERMS OF– AND WE ' LL REMAIN TO EVALUATE– ALL RIGHT DONE FUNCTION CHECKING OUT CITIES AND ALSO ATTORNEY ' S WORKPLACE TO EXAMINATION REALM OF WHAT ' S LEGAL.IT and also possible ' S LEGITIMATELY FEASIBLE TO MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF WHAT YOU SPOKE WITH MICHAEL AUTHORIZATION FOR USAGE >> LICENSE OR OTHER PROCESS. WE HAVE ENDED THAT BECAUSE OF CONSTRAINT ON THE DESIGN IN STATE LEGISLATION AND SOLITARY FAMILY MEMBERS AND TWO HOUSEHOLD SYSTEM THERE ' S NO DISTINCTION IN BETWEEN ONE AS WELL AS 2 FAMILY MEMBERS SYSTEMS ASIDE FROM ALLOWING A PERSON TO DEVELOP 100 %EVEN MORE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IF THEY ' RE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT A DUPLEX, AND THAT ' S WHY WE PLACE ' T FELT IT WAS CALLED FOR OR NEEDED TO HAVE'A SUPPLEMENTAL USAGE LICENSE AT'THAT.BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE A BATHROOM -JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WHERE WE ' RE AT, PRESENTLY AND APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL AS CHECK OUT THAT FURTHER. > > THANKS. COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. > > THANK YOU. CONCERN ABOUT THE SURVEY. DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW REP IT IS OF THE POPULATION AS A WHOLE IN REGARDS TO INCOME, geography, and race? > > THE ONE OVER THE SUMMERTIME? > > YEAH. > > THE ONE OVER THE SUMMERTIME WE DID NOT ASK THOSE INQUIRIES. > > OKAY'. > > IF M RECOLLECTION AND AGAIN IT ' S RECOLLECTION SO DON ' T HOLD ME TO IT, USUALLY

QUITE BAD, THOSE RESPONSES WEREN ' T ABLE TO TRACK WHERE INDIVIDUALS LIVED OR IN WHICH THEY WERE ACCESSING IT FROM AS WELL AS IT WAS RATHER BY RECOLLECTION RATHER REP AROUND VARIOUS AREAS >> OF DURHAM AS WELL AS OUTSIDE OF DURHAM TOO IT EVEN HIT PLACES IN EUROPE TOO, STRANGELY. [GIGGLING] IT WAS QUITE REP THROUGHOUT. > > I SIMPLY WISHED TO MAKE CERTAIN >> 70% OF INDIVIDUALS ARE FINE WITH >> DUPLEXES BUT IT ' S NOT BECAUSE THEY ALL STAY IN >> SANDY >> PARK OR– I HAVE A COUPLE SMALL CONCERNS. ONE ON THE ADUs. THIS WAS ONE OF THINGS REGARDING MPO THAT I DID NOT LIKE WHICH IS THE 800 SQUARE FOOT OPTIMUM. MAKE IT MORE VERSATILE BY REMOVING 30% BUT THAT ' S ADDITIONALLY MAKING IT MORE ARE RESTRICTIVE. IF AMONG THE GOALS IS TO MAKE ADUs MORE PROINENT, NOT JUST IN URBAN CORE BUT THROUGHOUT, THEN I ' M NO SURE WHAT ' S THE POINT OF TOPPING IT AT 100 AS OPPOSED TO ENHANCING PERCENT OR PERHAPS DOING IT TO WHERE IT ' S URBAN RATE >> IT ' S OPTIMUMS OF 800, SOME OTHER THINGS YOU GO UP TO A THOUSAND OR 1,200 OR SOMETHING? > > WE CAN EXAMINE THAT.I THINK WHAT WAS CRITICAL OUR COMPANIED BELIEVE WAS HAVING A SET OPTIMUM TO ENSURE THAT THE INDUSTRY ENGINEERS, DESIGNERS AND SMALL BUILDERS COULD HAVE A STANDARDIZED STRATEGY THAT THEY COULD USE IN DEALING WITH REGIONAL PHASE ON UPCOMING UP WITH COMMON STYLE FOR THE 800 SQUARE FEET UNIT, BUT IN REQUISITES OF– OUR AMONG OUR PRIMARY CONCERNS TO THE COMMENT THAT IS MR. MILLER AND ALSO BAKER MADE WAS ENSURING THAT ADUs REMAIN ACCESSORY.WE DID DO SOME'INVESTIGATE AND STUDY TO SHOW THAT IF YOU ' VE GOT A COMMUNITY PRIMARY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES WHEN KWU YOU OVERCOME A SQUARE FOOTAGE LOOKING AS WELL AS REALLY FEELING LIKE A 2ND PRIMARY STRUCTURE. WE ' LL CONTINUE TO CONSIDER THAT WHERE THERE ' S MUCH LARGER LOTS WE

COULD DO THAT BUT FOR URBAN TIER WE FEELING STRONGLY FOR 800. > > THANKS. THE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT DUPLEXES. NOW UH I TIN ' T REMEMBER EXACTLY BUT FROM WHAT– SO THE EMPHASIS GETS ON DUPLEXES OR CHANGING SOME LAWS WITHIN THE URBAN RATE, BUT AGAIN IT ' S A FACTOR NOT TO EXTEND THAT TO THE SUV TIER. I GET THAT A GREAT DEAL OF INDIVIDUALS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GOING TO BE AGAINST DUPLEXES BUT WHY– PARTICULARLY IF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS LIKE THE RS-10 AND ALSO 8, WHY NOT ENABLE DUPLEXES THERE?'> > WE COULD APPEARANCE AT THAT. I THINK I THERE WERE TWO PRIMARY REASONS. ONE IS SOMETHING I ATTEMPT UHHED TO AVOID TO IN MY DISCUSSION IS WISHED TO REALLY I FOCUSES THESE MODIFICATIONS WHERE THE HIGHEST NEED WAS AND ALSO TREMENDOUS DIFFERENTIAL MULTIP APPROXIMATELIES IN REQUISITES OF PER SQUARE FOOT >> URBAN RATE A GREAT DEAL OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SUR BURR INTOON WE FELT LIKE THE UTIZATION OF THIS SCHEDULE WOULD BE HIGHER.SECOND IS THAT SUBURBAN TIER THERE ' S A MUCH HIGHER INCIDENCE OF FUNCTIONAL HOUSE OWNERS ORGANIZATIONS WITH LIMITING COMMITMENTS THAT COME WITH [INDISCERNIBLE] WOULD LIKELY EVEN IF YOUR ZONING ALLOWED IT WOULD PROHIBIT OR AVERT THE USE OF THAT. LOTS OF TESE COVENANTS NEIGHWIDE ARE SOMETHING THAT RESTRICT RESIDENCE SUPPLY INCREASES UTILIZES PRICE PROHIBIT BESIDES SINGLE FAMILY. > > SO MAYBE THE BIGGER QUESTIO I UH HAVE YOU ' RE NT FOCUSING ON MULTIPLEXES AT THIS STATION AS WELL AS PAT YOU LIKEWISE CLAIMED THIS IS JEBT L TECHNIQUE, I PRESUME THE QUESTION IS, SINCE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSION IT ALMOST APPEARED LIKE DOOMSDAY LIKE WE ' VE GOT SO LOTS OF PEOPLE IN DURHAM AND ALSO WE DON ' T HAVE SUFFICIENT SUPPLY.SO WHY TAKE GENTLE L STRATEGY, WHY NOT FOCUS ON MULTIPLEXES CAN YOU TALK THROUGH THE REASONING? > > 2 PRIMARY FACTORS. SOMEBODY FUNCTIONAL AND ONE IS PHILOSOPHICAL. WE THNK IT ' S REALLY ESSENTIAL TO HAVE GREATER LEVEL DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE THINK WE ' VE DONE A GOOD JOB OVER LAST FEW MONTHS GREATER COMMUNITY INTERACTION TALKING TO THEM AND ALSO LISTENING TO THEM ABOUT THE ISSUE. WE PRESENTED IT TO YOU THIS EVENING SO THAT WE CONTAINER OBTAIN A HIGHER LEVEL OF BUY IN FROM THE BROADSER COMMUNITY ON THOSE BIGGER SALE REMEDIES, THE GARDEN APARTMENTS AND 4 PLEXES. WE THINK UH THE DETAILED PLAN IS A TREMENDOUS VEHICLE TO DO THAT [INDISCERNIBLE] HELP United States INTERACTION AND ALSO OUTREACH AND ALSO BE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY TELL THIS STORY MAYBE THAN I UH HAVE TONIGHT IN EVEN MORE AREA IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRIOR TO WE PROPOSE THOSE MODIFICATION WHICH

CANISTER BE PERCEIVED. 2ND REASON IS PRACTICAL. ZONING IS JUST ONE PIECE OF THE PROBLEM. THE OTHER PIECES >> ARE POINTS LIKE STORMWATER DEMANDS, ROAD CRITERIA RQUIRE CERTAIN SIZE OF ROADWAYS FOR GARBAGE TRUCKS AS WELL AS FIRE TRUCK TURN-AROUNDS AS WELL AS ENERGY CRITERIA THAT WE'BELIEVE IF WE GO TO THREE PLEXES, FOUR PLEXES OR YARD APARTMENTS WE NEED TO APPEARANCE A THESE OTHER SPECIFICATIONS AS WELL AS ENSURE WE HAVE FIRE EQUIPMENT THAT CONTAINER GO INTO SMALLER ROADS AND SOLUTION THESE HIGHER INTENSITY AREAS.WE NEED TO CONSIDER HOW WE MANAGE OUR STORMWATER STANDARDS THAT CURRENTLY HAVE TO BE ON-SITE. WE FELT LIKE IF WE DID PROMOTE EVEN MORE INTENSE VARIETY OF USES IN MORE AREAS WE WOULDN ' T HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXECUTE THEM AS A RESULT OF THESE OTHER GUIDELINES RESTRAINING THAT. MAKE FEELING? > > HELPFUL. THANKS. > > I UH KNOW THE HOUR IS LATE. I DID WANT TO SAY PAIR QUICK THINGS AS WE COMPLETE. PAT, I ' M GLAD YOU INCREASED THE STORMWATER STANDARDS.THE QUESTION IS SOMETHING WE ARE HAVE TO WATCH ON IN ADDITION TO THE TRE CAN P PI CONCERN UH WHICH YOU ' RE WORKING TO ADDRESS IN THIS PROPOSAL. I ' VE BEEN THRILLED WITH THE EQUILIBRIUM OF ACQUIRING PUBLIC RESPONSES BUT TRYING TO MOVE THIS VIA QUICKLY P. FOUND THE BALANCE.

> > NO, LITTLE LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AND ALSO THAT ' S WHY WE ' RE CHANGING IT.YOUR HELD TO EITHER THE ZONING ELEVATION OR 1 FEET WHICHEVER IS LESSER. IF THE LESSER IS WHAT IS– > > AREA OF ONE TALE HOUSES AS WELL AS UNDER THE PRESENT GUIDELINES YOU CAN ' T CONSTRUCT ANYTHING CONSIDERABLE OR LARGER THAN A ONE STORY HOME UNLESS YOU ' VE GOT 25 FOOT SPLITTING UP;? > > I DON ' T THINK OUR USUAL SPECIFICATIONS ARE– IF JEFF WAS STRUCTURE THAT CAUSED SO MUCH LEGISLATION THERE UNDER EXISTING IN FILL CRITERIA TO CREATE AN MPO FOR THEM, OUR IN FILL REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT STANDARDS.THAT ' S MY MONITORING. OF PROGRAM IT ' S INCENTIVE FOR COMMUNITY TO ALLOW NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR SOMETHING THAT ' S HIGHER DENSITY FOUR OR 5 UNITS OR MORE WITH DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS IF THAT ' S POSSIBLE SO THAT MAY BE A WAY OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THIS. > > SO MAYBE THE BIGGER QUESTIO I UH HAVE YOU ' RE NT FOCUSING ON MULTIPLEXES AT THIS STATION AS WELL AS PAT YOU ALSO STATED THIS IS JEBT L METHOD, I GUESS THE CONCERN IS, BECAUSE AT THE STARTING OF THE PRESENTATION IT ALMOST APPEARED LIKE END OFTHE WORLD LIKE WE ' VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE IN DURHAM AND ALSO WE DON ' T HAVE ENOUGH SUPPLY.SO WHY TAKE GENTLE L METHOD, WHY NOT EMPHASIS ON MULTIPLEXES CANISTER YOU TALK THROUGH THE REASONING?SOMETHING TO EMPHASIS ON IS THE POST– IF THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD AND ALSO GET ACCEPTED WE NEED TO STRIVE TO ENSURE WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE AS WELL AS EDUCATE THE PUBLIC OR WE'' LL SEE WHAT WE SAW WITH PINE CREST WHERE PEOPLE WERE REVEALING UP AND ALSO CLAIMING WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN THAT OUR AREA TRANSFORMED THE TIER WE'' RE IN AND EXPERIENCED OBVIOUSLY EXTREMELY EXTENSIVE PUBLIC PROCEDURE BUT IT'' S EASY TO SURVIVE THE PROCESS AND ALSO SAY WE'' VE MADE IT BUT WE DEMAND TO MAKE SURE WE'' RE EDUCATING AREA TO UNDERSTAND THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE COMING HEE.I THINK I WE'' RE STRIKING TERRIFIC BALANCE IN STIPULATIONS NOT RELOCATING AS WELL QUICKLY UH BUT WE– YOU'' RE GOING HEAR A LOT IF PEOPLE SEE THE MODIFICATIONS AS WELL AS PEOPLE DIDN'' T UNDERSTAND AND ALSO MISSED THIS INTERACTION PROCEDURE. I'' M HOPING THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE A POST EDUCATION AND LEARNING PROCESS THAT THE STAFF COULD HANG OUT REASONING ABOUT. WITH THAT CLAIMED, I WEAR'' T SEE ANY ADDED COMMENTS– COMMISSIONER– LET'' S KEEP THEM QUICK SINCE THE HOUR IS LATE. >> > > I UH IDEA THE PRESENTATION WAS AWESOME AND ALSO ADDRESS ISSUES IN REGARDS TO PLACE ADUs And Also– SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT CHALLENGING FOR STANDARD GROWNUP IS NAVIGATING STAIRS.BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP SETTING TO MAINTAIN DURHAM PEOPLE. THE BULK OF THE RESISTANCE WE RECEIVE ARE FROM THOSE THAT ARE OVER 50 AS WELL AS OVER 40 AS WELL AS I'' M APPROACHING 40 MYSELF AND I KNOW A GREAT DEAL OF MY PEERS THAT ARE LIFERS IN DURHAM AS I AM, THE QUESTION CONCERNS ME OFTEN AS WELL AS IT'' S AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT AFFORDABLE FOR'THAT? I ' VE BEEN IN DURHAM MY WHOLE LIFE, WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR US. WE'' VE SUR PROOI VOOIFED HOUSING AS WELL AS– ENDURED RESIDENCE AS WELL AS FINANCIAL SITUATION. BECAUSE IT WILL CERTAINLY AID PEOPLE THAT ARE VESTED BELOW AND THEY WANT TO REMAIN HERE, obtaining THAT INP PUT WOULD BE INVALUABLE. AFTER THAT WE DON'' T HAVE THESE MODIFICATIONS AS A RESULT OF THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE GOT TO LOCATE EQUILIBRIUM CONCERNING HOW DOES DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS A RETENTION COHABITATE IN SME AREA WHICH SUMS UP AT THE VERY LEAST WHAT I SEEN THROUGHOUT MY PERIOD BELOW. >> > > MANY THANKS. >>. > > THAT ' S AS QUICK AS I COULD MAINTAIN IT >>.

> > THAT WAS BRIEF.COMMISSIONER GIBBS. >> > > THIS WILL BE QUICK. YOU STATED STORMWATER. EACH TIME I LISTEN TO WATER AND ALSO HIGHER GROWTH AND AN INCREASING NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS I THINK ABOUT WATER SYSTEM, AND I AM SPEAKING REGARDING ABSOLUTELY SUFFICIENT WATER. WE'' RE TAXED ON OUR EQUIPMENT NOW AND WITH PLACES LIKE SHRIVER PARK, HOW THEY GOING TO OBTAIN WATER FOR THAT. AT ANY PRICE, I SAY IT'' S GOING TO BE FAST AND IT IS. IF YOU PASS ALONG TO THE WATER PEOPLE STORMWATER AND WATER SUPPLY IS A BIG PROBLEM AND ALSO HAS BEEN WITH ME FOR MANY YEARS. THANK YOU. >> > > THANK YOU. THIS IS IT FOR THE MEETING.TWO QUICK LAST POINTS. PRIMARY, I UH WANTED TO ALLOW YOU RECOGNIZE THAT BETWEEN NOW AS WELL AS TUESDAY, THIS IS THE BRAND-NEW YEAR AS WELL AS IT ' S BEEN A LONG TIME'SINCE WE ' VE DONE THIS, WE'ARE GOING TO FUNCTION TO REWORK OUR SEATS ASSIGNMENT, SO THE SEATING ASIEMENT IS THE CHAIR THAT HAS CAPACITY AT ANY TIME TO CHANGE THE SEATS ASIEMENT. WE HAVEN'' T DONE IT IN YEARS. BASICALLY, EACH OF YOU HAVE CAN BE FOUND IN YOU'' VE SIMPLY FILLED IN THE INDIVIDUAL WHOM YOU REPLACED IN THE SEAT THEY HAD. WE'' RE GOING TO FUNCTION TO REWORK THE SEATS THEREFORE WHEN YOU COME RIGHT HERE ON TUESDAY, WE'' LL GET THIS TO YOU BEFOREHAND, DON'' T SIMPLY COME AS WELL AS SIT IN YOUR TYPICAL SEAT, JUST TAKE A MINUTE AS WELL AS WE'' LL IDENTIFY THE NEW SEATING PLAN FOR THE NEW YEAR.THE SECONDLY AND ALSO

FINAL POINT, ANYTHING ELSE FROM PERSONNEL FOR THIS NIGHT? >> > > NO THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO SAY UNLESS YOU INTEND TO SIT IN SOMEBODY ELSE'' S SEAT AND ALSO BE THEM FOR TONIGHT, YOU MAY DO THAT. WE DON'' T ENCOURAGE IT >>. > > IF YOU HAVE A SEATING PR CHOICE, THE BARTERING– WITH THAT SAID WE'' RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU AS WELL AS WE'' LL SEE YOU UH ON TUESDAY. BLTHSDZ.

SOMETHING TO FOCUS ON IS THE BLOG POST– IF THIS DOES GO ONWARD AS WELL AS OBTAIN AUTHORIZED WE HAVE TO FUNCTION HARD TO MAKE CERTAIN WE CONTINUE TO INVOLVE AS WELL AS INFORM THE PUBLIC OR WE'' LL SEE WHAT WE SAW WITH PINE CREST WHERE PEOPLE WERE REVEALING UP AND ALSO STATING WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSFORMED THE RATE WE'' RE IN AND ALSO WENT WITH OBVIOUSLY REALLY INTENSIVE PUBLIC PROCEDURE BUT IT'' S EASY TO GET VIA THE PROCEDURES AND SAY WE'' VE MADE IT BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'' RE EDUCATING AREA TO UNDERSTAND THE MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE COMING HEE.I THINK I WE'' RE STRIKING WONDERFUL EQUILIBRIUM IN REQUISITES NOT MOVING TOO QUICKLY UH BUT WE– YOU'' RE GOING HEAR A LOT IF INDIVIDUALS SEE THE MODIFICATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS DIDN'' T UNDERSTAND AND ALSO MISSED THIS INVOLVEMENT PROCESS. I'' M HOPING THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE A POST EDUCATION AND LEARNING PROCESS THAT THE STAFF COULD SPEND TIME REASONING ABOUT. I WAS GOING TO SAY UNLESS YOU WANT TO SIT IN SOMEONE ELSE'' S SEAT AS WELL AS BE THEM FOR TONIGHT, YOU CAN DO THAT. > > IF YOU HAVE A SEATING PR CHOICE, THE BARTERING– WITH THAT WE'' RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU AND WE'' LL SEE YOU UH ON TUESDAY.

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