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OUT WITH YOU ALL ONCE MORE. WE'' RE GOING TO BEGIN THIS
. MORNING WITH A SPECIAL.
PRESENTATION AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT AS WELL AS LIKE TO INVITE GM LOGAN TO TALK.
TO United States ABOUT THE UNITED METHOD.
>> > > GREAT MORNING, YOUR PRAISE. AS WELL AS FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.
THAT AREN'' T ACQUAINTED WITH ME
, I ' M. THE GENERAL MANAGER OF TRANSPORT FOR THE CITY. MAYOR NENSHI, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
AND GUESTS, IT'' S MY TERRIFIC PLEASURE TODAY TO SHOW YOU.
SOME TERRIFIC NEWS CONCERNING THE END OF.
CITY OF CALGARY ' S CHARITY OF. CALGARY. HEADING INTO LAST YEAR ' S. PROJECT, WE WEREN ' T QUITE SURE.
THIRD YEAR OF AN FINANCIAL
. THAT WE WERE TACKLING UNITED WAY.
CAMPAIGN.AND WE ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS.
2010 CAMPAIGN WHICH WOULD BE DUPLICATING THE PRIOR YEAR ' S. CAMPAIGN. SECURING OUR PROJECT WAS OUR BUSINESS CONTRIBUTIONS WITH OUR. DESIGNATED CONTRIBUTIONS FROM WORKERS AT THE CITY OF.
CALGARY. AS WELL AS WHAT WE GOT OUT OF THAT CAMPAIGN THIS YEAR WAS
AN. BOOSTED AMOUNT, NOT ONLY IN. OVERALL DONATIONS BUT IN– AN INCREASE IN THE VARIETY OF INDIVIDUALS. THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED GREATER THAN A. THOUSAND DOLLARS PER INDIVIDUAL. IT ' S QUITE AMAZING IF
YOU SEE. HOW LOTS OF CITY EMPLOYEES DO THAT. WE HAD A VARIETY OF OTHER CAMPAIGNS. WE BEGAN LAST SPRING WITH. OUR CITIES MINUTE TO WIN IT WHICH WAS A LITTLE OF.
FUNDRAISING AS WELL AS. FUNDRAISING AS WELL AS WE WENT ON TO AMONG
OUR MAJOR PROJECTS WHICH.
IS THE FLOWER DAY. YOU MAY PARTICIPATE IN THE FLOWER DAY WITH YOUR PERSONNEL AS WELL AS. ACQUIRE FLOWERS FOR DELICIOUS CHOCOLATE OR. REAL CHOCOLATE.THIS YEAR WE EXTENDED IT TO THE.
DISHES ON WHEELS.
AND ALSO 550 CITY STAFF
PARTICIPANTS PURCHASED FLOWERS FOR ANONYMOUS
. DISHES ON WHEEL RECIPIENTS. I BELIEVED THAT WAS A REALLY TERRIFIC POINT WE ' VE DONE THIS YEAR. OF FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS WE ' VE. HAD QUITE SUCCESSFUL BINGOS, 50/50 DRAWS. WE UPPED OUR 50/50 DRAW THIS.
RECENTLY TO ABOUT$ 7,500 WHICH WAS A BRAND-NEW LEVEL FOR United States. WE DO AN ON-LINE SILENT PUBLIC AUCTION. WE ' VE HAD GOLF COMPETITIONS. IT ' S REALLY BEEN A TREMENDOUS. PROJECT AND ALSO WE DO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF'. SUCCESS AND A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT. OVERALL, WE REACH OVER 17.000. PERSONNEL IN ABOUT A HUNDRED VARIOUS LOCATIONS AROUND THE. CITY
OF CALGARY. AS WELL AS WE CERTAINLY GET THE MESSAGE BENT ON EVERY TEAM AS WELL AS WE.
URGE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE. IF FOR THE THROUGH A CONTRIBUTION VIA GETTING INVOLVED IN AMONG.
OUR EVENTS. WE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF OTHER FUN MATTERS TO DO LIKE PAPER AIRPLANE TRAVELING. IF, competitions INSIDE THE ROOM. YOU WERE RIGHT HERE THAT DAY.WE HAD OUR FIRST ANNUAL ARTISANS. PUBLIC AUCTION. BAKE BUSINESS, PUBLICATION BUSINESS, JEWELRY SALES, ALL KIND OF OTHER MATTERS. IN DIFFERENT SERVICES DEVICES
. LOADS AND LOADS OF EVENTS ACROSS VARIOUS AREAS AROUND.
THE CITY. WE TRIED SOME NEW THINGS LIKE BUSKING FOR DOLLARS. WE HAD A BAND NIGHT IN WHICH SOME.
FOLKS IN THE FIELD ORIENTED UNITS PLACE ON A SPECIAL EVENING. IT ' S TERRIFIC TO HAVE UNITED WAY.
TOWARDS THE TOTAL GENERAL. FUND. SO THE OVERALL COLLABORATIVE.
INITIATIVES HAVE HANDLED TO ELEVATE.
OVER$ 438.000.
AS WELL AS THE EXCITEMENT THAT WAS.
ENVISIONED BY THE GROUP WAS REALLY. TREMENDOUS AS WELL AS I ' D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE A FEW OF THE PEOPLE.
TO BEGIN WITH JASON MAYER.
HE LED OUR PROJECT. HE WAS SECONDED FROM ROADWAYS FOR THE YEAR. TRANSPORT IS LEADING THE. PROGRAM FOR 2 YEARS, AS WELL AS WE SECOND
An EMPLOYEE TO LEAD. THAT INDEPENDENTLY. JASON WAS THIS YEAR
' S. NEXT YEAR IT ' S GOING TO AN'. INDIVIDUAL IN CALGARY TRANSIT. JASON WAS SUSTAINED BY NEARLY 40 CAMPAIGN COORDINATORS. IF I COULD ASK THOSE FOLKS TO. STAND UP WHO ARE RIGHT HERE PRESENT TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED. [Applause]
MANY THANKS, JASON. I ' D LIKEWISE LIKE TO THANK OWEN. TOLBERT FOR HIS ONGOING SUPPORT.
FOR THE CITY OF CALGARY. I ' D CURRENTLY LIKE TO INVITE THE. THE CALGARY CHAIR OF UNITED MEANS RUTH RAMSDEN WOOD AS WELL AS OUR.
Praise]
> > THANK YOU ALL.
THANK YOU SPECIFICALLY TO OUR 40 COORDINATORS WHO ARE. ACTIVELY STIMULATED IN
>> THIS. CAMPAIGN.BUT THIS IS EVERYTHING ABOUT STRUCTURE A. WONDERFUL CITY TOGETHER.
AND ALSO WE ARE VERY STRONG PARTNERS
BECAUSE WORK. THE 3 COLUMNS OF UNITED MEANS.
ARE RELOCATING PEOPLE OUT OF DESTITUTION, BUILDING STRONG. NEIGHBOURHOODS, AS WELL AS ENSURING. CHILDREN AND ALSO YOUTH OF CALGARY
MATURE FANTASTIC. WHICH IS THE WORK THAT WE DO.
ALONG WITH CITY OF CALGARY EMPLOYEES. AND WE ' RE THRILLED THAT THEY. MORE CONCERNING THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY GET SO PROACTIVELY ENTAILED IN. GIVING'BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND ALSO BUILDING A CITY WITH EVERYONE. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR.
PARTICIPATION, TO THE MAYOR FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THANKS. FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.
OURVE BEEN A PARTICIPANT OF CAMPAIGN CUPBOARD THIS YEAR.
YOU ' VE GONE WELL ABOVE AND. BEYOND YOUR TYPICAL COURSE OF DUTIES TO BE INVOLVED IN A THE.
NEIGHBORHOOD IN A DIFFERENT MEANS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.THANK YOU.
[Praise] > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS,
Mr. LOGAN AND Ms. RAMSDEN WOOD. PERMIT ME TO ADD MY PERMANEN PERSONALO THE CITY OF CALGARY WORKERS. THAT WORKED SO HARD TO MAKE THIS. A CAMPAIGN SUCH A SUCCESS. PROCEEDING TO THE PROGRAM, AFTER THAT. ON QUESTION PERIOD, ALDERMAN.
JONES. > > I WEAR ' T KNOW WHO THE CONCERN. IS FOR BUT A PAIR OF
YEARS BACK. I ASKED An INQUIRY IN REGARDS TO ALLOWING CELL TOWERS ON MR WEBSITES.
AND PARTICULARLY AREA SITES. GIVEN THAT THEN, I ' VE GONE THROUGH.
GONE THROUGH INDIVIDUALS IN. TRANSPORTATION.I ' VE GONE THROUGH INDIVIDUALS IN REGULATION.
AND ALSO CURRENTLY I ' VE HEARD IT ' S. CORPORATE FEATURES TROUBLE. ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS I JUST MENTIONED? > > Mayor Naheed
Nenshi:.
> > I AM VOLUNTEERING TO ANSWER.
>> THE QUESTION AND ALSO TRY TO COORDINATE ALL THESE POINTS. YOU ' RE DEAD-ON. THERE ' S A VARIETIES OF PLAYERS.WE ARE WRITING'A RECORD, AND ALSO IT.
SLIDES MY MIND, BUT I RECOGNIZE IT ' S. UPCOMING BACK IN THE FIRST HALF
OF THIS YEAR, UPCOMING OUT OF THE. LAST COUNCIL CONVERSATION ON THIS. AND ALSO THAT WILL BE PART OF THAT REPORT. > > ARE WE ALSO GOING TO
>> CHECK OUT. THE FACT THAT THERE ' S REGARDING 400 OF THESE YET TO COME AND ALSO ALL. WE ' RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS.
ANNOYING A WHOLE LOT OF INDIVIDUALS BY SETTING THEM BEHIND THEIR FENCE? WE ' RE CERTAINLY ANNOYING A LOT. OF PEOPLE', I DEFINITELY LISTEN TO REGARDING IT. ALDERMAN JONES, AS I ' M SURE YOU. KNOW WE HAVE VERY LITTLE'POWER ON THIS
WHOLE DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS I TIN. TAKE A LOOK AROUND THE TABLE, ALMOST.
AS WELL AS, YOU ' RE RIGHT, IF WE CONTAINER MOVE THEM ALL TO MR THAT WOULD. BE ONE THING, BUT THERE ARE.
CHALLENGES DOING THAT.
WE ' LL BRING IT ALL BACK AND ALSO LET. COUNCIL MAKE SOME VERSIONS.
> > IT WILL UNDERGO LAND USAGE? >
>> > IT WILL COME THROUGH LPT. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
>> YOU, ALDERMAN JONES.ON QUESTION DURATION
, ALDERMAN.
CHABOT? > > MANY THANKS.
Mr. LOGAN. I WAS TALKING TO A RESIDENT LATELY REGARDING A PRODUCT THAT.
ECO-FRIENDLY AND ALSO PROVIDE PERHAPS SOME RELIEF TO. A FEW OF THE CALGARIANS IN.
RELATES TO TO TRACTION CONTROL.
THIS PRODUCT CALLED ECOTRACK. FRIENDLY I AS WELL AS DOES OFFER SUBSTANTIAL GRIP IMPROVEMENT. TO THE ROADS THROUGHOUT SNOW EVENTS.
> > YOUR WORSHIP, I ' M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PARTICULAR. I ' D WELCOME DETAILS ON
IT OR IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO CONTACT. I ' VE HEARD WONDER MELT, A. NUMBER OF VARIOUS POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN– THAT HAVE
DIFFERENT.
FEBRUARY.
APPARENTLY THERE'' S An INTERNET SITE. IF YOU COULD PERHAPS, AVAILABLE.
> > ECOTRACK. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THANKS, ALDERMAN CHABOT. I'' LL TAKE An ACTIVITY TO ACCEPT. MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN STEVENSON.
ASK YOU TO BRING FORWARD AND. BARGAIN WITH CPC 2011-27 PRIOR TO DEALING WITH CPC 2011-001 AND ALSO.
THAT'' S A LAND USE BYLAW. MODIFICATION FOR THE SIGNS.
I BELIEVE WE MUST PROBABLY OFFER.
WITH THAT BEFORE DEALING WITH. THE PARTICULAR INDICATION. AS WELL AS PROBABLY HAVE A VARIETY OF IN.
CAM THINGS THAT NEED TO BE.
INCLUDED. I'' M UNCERTAIN IF THE CHAIR OF.
STRATEGY IT WANTED TO MOVE THE.
ADDITION OF THOSE.I BELIEVE THAT ' S URGENT. SERVICE, THAT? IS
THAT CORRECT? >> > > YOUR WORSHIP, THERE ARE 3.
ITEMS ALREADY NOTED IN THE IN.
CAMERA ITEMS. LAS 2011-04, 05, 066 ARE ALREADY.
ON THE PROGRAM.
>> > > THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL ONES? >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: HAVE I.
AN ADDITIONAL IN CA ELECTRONIC CAMERA PRODUCT.
>> > > HAVE I NO OTHER AMENDMENTS TO PROPOSE NOW.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: DO I.
HAVE A SECONDER FOR THOSE? THANKS, ALDERMAN DEMONG. ARE WE AGREED? I BELIEVE WE'' VE GOT A PAIR EVEN MORE– I'' LL TAKE An ACTIVITY TO.
ADD A PAIR MORE URGENT.
ORGANIZATION ITEMS. THERE IS THE URGENT SERVICE.
AND ALSO ONE EVEN MORE IN CAM URGENT. COMPANY ON THE AIRPORT TERMINAL PASSAGE. CAN I HAVE An ACTIVITY TO ADD.
THANKS, ALDERMAN STEVENSON. THANKS, ALDERMAN HODGES. AS WELL AS ALDERMAN FARRELL WILL SECOND.
THESE THREE SETS OF MINUTES,.
THANKS, ALDERMAN JONES. SECONDED ALDERMAN MacLEOD. > > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
WEB PAGE 18 OF 50, ALTHOUGH IT MAY. BE A MINOR ADJUSTMENT, TYPICALLY ON THIRST READING CONSENT FOR.
THIRD READING AND ALSO I ' VE SEEN THIS. IT ' S– THE MOVEMENT IS PUT.
DOES NOT SAY CARRIED ALL AND IT'' S REQUIRED TO OFFER 3
. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WE CAN.
TAKE THAT AS A CLERICAL ENHANCEMENT.
>> > > PAGE 41 OF 50 OF THE EXACT SAME SET.
OF MINUTES.JUST REACH IT RIGHT HERE.
THERE WAS 2 “IN “S. AMENDMENT TO MODIFICATION. RELOCATED BY ALDERMAN CHABOT, SECOND. BRING ALDERMAN COLLEY-URQUHART. AS WELL AS IT SAYS “IN IN” IN THE OPERATING EXPENSE. CONSEQUENTLY JUST ONE “IN”. THAT ' S INCLUDED THROUGHOUT THE MODIFIED MOVEMENT. IT'NEEDS TO ONLY HAVE ONE “IN” NOT. 2 “INS.” > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: GOOD. CATCH”, ALDERMAN “CHABOT. > > THAT ' S WHAT I DO. THAT ' S MY NEXT WORK. PROOFREADER.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I THINK WE CAN TAKE THOSE BOTH AS.
>> CONTENT ADJUSTMENTS. ALDERMAN HODGES? ANYONE ELSE ON THE MINUTES
? ON THE MOTION TO ACCEPT MINS. WITH A NUMBER OF CONTENT MODIFICATIONS ARE WE AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? BROUGHT.
I SHOULD GET A MOVEMENT TO RELOCATE. THE CONSENT PROGRAM.
THANKS, ALDERMAN PINCOTT.DO I HAVE A SECONDER? MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN STEVENSON AND.
ALDERMAN HODGES. > > YES, THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER.
I ' D LIKE >> TO PULL UE 201106 THE. MULTIFAMILY RECYCLING OPPORTUNITIES OUT OF THE APPROVAL. SCHEDULE– I WASN ' T AT THE.
CONFERENCE FOR THIS AGENDA.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I WILL. MOVE THAT TO 10.4.2 UNDER.
CONTAINER I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT WITH. THANKS, ALDERMAN CARRA. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO PULL OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
CONSENT PROGRAM. BROUGHT. THAT TAKES United States THEN TO OUR PUBLIC.
HEARING PRODUCTS.
>> > > YOUR PRAYER, IT WAS FUTURE.
PARTICIPANT I INTENDED TO TAKE OUT.
> > LATER ON IN THE SCHEDULE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: IF WE'' RE GOING TO PULL THEM OFF.
CONSENT SCHEDULE LET'' S PUT THEM. AND ALSO GIVEN THE MODIFICATION THAT.
ALDERMAN CHABOT PUT TO OUR AGENDA, WE'' RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF.
ITEM 7.2 IN YOUR SCHEDULE BEFORE.
7.17.2 IS CPC 2011-027 AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND USAGE.
BYLAW. AS WELL AS WE'' LL JUST DO A LITTLE MUSIC CHAIRS UP HERE. AND AFTERWARDS WE'' LL BE GREAT TO GO. YOU READY FOR US >>? > > YES, GREETINGS, YOUR.
PRAYER AND ALSO COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LAURIE KIMBER AND ALSO I'' M HERE STANDING FOR THE.
REFERRALS OF THE CALGARY.
PLANNING COMMISSION FOR CPC 2011-027 TO ALLOW DIGITAL THIRD.
CELEBRATION ADVERTISING AND MARKETING AND MESSAGE.
CHECK IN CALGARY.WITH ME TODAY ON MY LEFT IS. Mr. KEN MELONSON.
OF PERMANENT PLAN AND POLICIES
. AT THAT TIME, THE INTERIM GUIDELINES. OF A DIGITAL THIRD PARTY ADVERTISING AND MARKETING INDICATION.
THEY ARE DESIGNED AND ALSO POSITIONED TO OBTAIN THE FOCUS OF VEHICLE DRIVERS. AS WELL AS TRAVELERS IN MOTOR AUTOS.
IN ORDER TO COMMUNICATE AN ADVERTISING AND MARKETING MESSAGE. THEY ARE CALLED 3RD EVENT. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE ADVERTISEMENTS DISPLAYED ON THEM ARE NOT. PERTAINING TO A BUSINESS ON THE.
SITE.THIS PHOTO SHOWS AN EXAMPLE.
OF AN DIGITAL MESSAGE INDICATOR. IT IS DIFFERENT THAN A THIRD PARTY ADVERTISING AND MARKETING INDICATION BECAUSE.
SITE. THE REGULATIONS FOR VARIOUS OTHER TYPES OF SIGNS IN CALGARY INCLUDING.
ADVERTISING AND MARKETING AND MESSAGE INDICATIONS, AS WELL AS TRADITIONAL ONES ARE SHOWN
. TESTIMONIAL THE CONDITIONS OF CALGARY ' S EXISTING SIGN GUIDELINES AS WELL AS EXPLAIN. ENABLE DIGITAL SIGNS IN SOME AREAS OF CALGARY ARE BEING.
SUGGESTED TODAY. THE OVERHEAD SHOWS A GENERAL BACKGROUND OF CALGARY ' S SIGN REGULATIONS. THEY GO BACK TO 1980. WITH UPDATES BEING DONE THROUGHOUT THE 1990s, THE LAST. BEING THE BILLBOARD RULES AND.
POLICY IN 1999. THERE WAS SOME REORGANIZATION OF.
THE INDICATOR POLICIES IN BYLAW 1 P. 2011.
THE METHOD WAS THAT–.
2007. A REVIEW WOULD BE DONE AFTER THE PRELIMINARY IMPLEMENTATION AND ALSO. SURVEILLANCE WOULD BE DONE.
IT WILL CERTAINLY OUTLINED APPOINTMENT WITH AREA GROUPS AND THE. PUBLIC. AT THE MAY 13th, 2010 MEETING OF THE CALGARY PLANNING. PAYMENT IT WAS REQUESTED.
ADMINISTRATION MANAGE DIGITAL SIGNS. THIS MOVEMENT WAS BASED ON AN. EARLIER CPC RECORD THAT RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR AN. INTERIM TECHNIQUE TO TAKE CARE OF THE.
QUICK ADOPTION OF DIGITAL INDICATION MODERN TECHNOLOGY IN CALGARY AS IT WAS. BEING IMPLEMENTED SWIFTLY BY THE.
ADVERTISING AND MARKETING SECTOR PRIOR TO ANY NEW SIGN POLICIES AS WELL AS PLAN. AS WELL AS BEFORE INTERACTION WITH.
NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS SECTOR STAKEHOLDERS. THE CHART ON THE EXPENSES REVEALS. THE INCREASING NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS FOR DIGITAL. ADVERTISING SIGNS IN CALGARY.
WITH 7 OF 9 APPLICATIONS IN 2009 BEING ACCEPTED BY THE SDAB,. 2010.
OVER 300 3RD PARTY MARKETING SIGNS IN CALGARY. THE PURPLE CELEBRITIES PROGRAM WHERE THE.
CITY HAS ACTUALLY APPROVED ELECTRONIC INDICATORS AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENT-FRIENDLY STARS PROGRAM IN WHICH.
DIGITAL SIGNS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
BY THE SDAB. A FEW OF THESE DIGITAL SIGNS HAVE.
CHANGED FORMERLY EXISTING.
CONVENTIONAL ADVERTISING AND MARKETING SIGNS AND ALSO THE GOLD CIRCLES STAND FOR.
THESE CONVENTIONAL ADVERTISING.
INDICATORS. AND FINALLY, YOUR PRAYER, THE.
RED DOTS SHOW THE LOCATIONS OF.
THE DIGITAL 3RD PARTY ADVERTISING SIGNS THAT ARE.
CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS. IN DEVELOPING THE CHANGES TODAY, WE MET AS WELL AS LISTENED TO.
STAKEHOLDERS. 3 MEETINGS WERE HELD WITH COMMUNITY GROUP REPS.
IN APRIL, SEPTEMBER AND.
OCTOBER 2010.
THE GENERAL CONSENSUS WAS NOT IN.
FAVOUR OF DIGITAL THIRD PARTY.
MARKETING SIGNS FEE TO CONCERNS EXPRESSED ABOUT HOW.
THEIR PRESENCE IMPACTS THE.
ATMOSPHERE AND HOW– THE EFFECT THAT THEY HAVE ON THE USE.
AND PLEASURE OF DWELLING UNITS.
WHEN THEY'' RE ADVICABLE. COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS SHARED.
A WISH FOR POLICIES THAT REQUIRED.
DIGITAL SIGNS TO BE A MINIMUM AWAY FROM BUILDINGS. THE STRUCTURE OF THE PROPOSED.
RULES WAS CIRCULATED TO INDUSTRY ORGANIZATIONS ON.
NOVEMBER 1st, 2010. AND ALSO WHILE NO CONSENSUS ON THE GUIDELINES WAS ACCOMPLISHED, THERE WAS.
GENERAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THE.
GUIDELINES REGULATING ILLUMINATIONS, LOCATION AS WELL AS PHOTO REFRESH.
INTERVALS WERE NEEDED. THE PURPOSE THESE DAYS'' S CHANGE ARE GUIDELINES TO OVERVIEW WHERE DIGITAL. INDICATORS TIN FIND AND HOW THEY.
OPERATE.SINCE CALGARY '
S CURRENT RULES'.
WERE NOT DESIGNED TO MANAGE LED.
MODERN TECHNOLOGY, WE DO NOT HAVE GUIDELINES TO TAKE CARE OF INDICATION BRIGHTNESS,.
FEEDBACK TO AMBIENT LIGHT, IMAGE.
REFRESH TIMING, THE DISTANCE FROM THE SIGN TO THE ROADWAY,.
THE EFFECT ON RESIDENTIAL USES.
OR POLICY THAT OVERVIEWS WHAT LAND USE DISTRICTS ARE APPROPRIATE.
FOR DIGITAL SIGNS. THE INNOVATION USED FOR DIGITAL SIGNS IS SIMILAR TO TV. THE PHOTOS CANISTER CHANGE SWIFTLY AS.
WELL AS THE COLOURS AS WELL AS THE ILLUMINATION DEGREES. THERE IS SOME PROOF THAT.
DIGITAL SIGNS HAVE A VARIOUS ESTHETIC AS WELL AS SECURITY IMPACT AS.
CONTRASTED TO NONDIGITAL SIGNS. THE FACTOR THEY MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT SAFETY INFLUENCE IS THAT.
THE IMAGES ARE BRIGHTER AND CAN.
ADJUSTMENT RAPIDLY, POSSIBLY GRABBING THE FOCUS AND ALSO THE.
ASSUMPTIONS OF THE CHAUFFEUR OF A.
CAR ABOUT THE CURRENT AS WELL AS THE UPCOMING PICTURE. THE FASTER THE INDICATION PHOTOS.
REMEMBER FRESH, THE GREATER THE POSSIBLE FOR VEHICLE DRIVER.
DISTRACTION. A REPORT BY A RECOGNIZED SPECIALIST IN THE AREA DESIGN.
PSYCHOLOGIST GERRY WACHTEL ON.
THE SECURE IMPACTS OF DIGITAL INDICATION INNOVATION SHOWS THE.
HUMAN EYE IS HARD WIRED TO BE.
DRAWN TO THE BRIGHTEST OBJECT ON THE SCENE AND ALSO THOSE THAT DISPLAY.
MOVEMENT OR APPARENT MOTION. MARKETING SIGNS ARE VARIOUS THAN ORGANIZATION IDENTIFICATION.
INDICATIONS. SINCE THE PICTURES AND ALSO MESSAGE ARE MADE BY ADVERTISING AND MARKETING.
EXPERTS TO PURPOSELY.
CAPTURE THE ATTENTION OF DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS AS WELL AS TO FOCUS THAT.
FOCUS OF DRIVERS ON THE.
MARKETING MESSAGE.BUSINESS RECOGNITION INDICATIONS. SHOWN ON THE EXPENSES HAVE A. DIFFERENT EFFECT ON
DRIVERS THAN DIGITAL ADVERTISING AND MARKETING BECAUSE THEY. ARE ORIENTED TO RECOGNIZE THE
. AREA OR THE ENTRY OF A COMPANY TO THE PUBLIC NOT TO.
MARKET A PRODUCT. THE INFLUENCE OF ORGANIZATION RECOGNITION SIGNS IS.
ALLEVIATED BY THE CRUCIAL.
WAY-FINDING PURPOSE THAT THEY SERVE. THE ESTHETIC CONCERNS ABOUT.
DIGITAL SIGNS ASSOCIATE WITH THEIR COMPATIBILITY AND ALSO INFLUENCE ON.
SURROUNDING USAGES. BILLBOARDS TIN CLUTTER THE SETTING AND ALSO CONTAINER BE.
ARCHITECTURALLY INCOMPATIBLE.
WITH ADJACENT STRUCTURES. THE BRIGHTNESS LEVELS CAN EFFECT.
THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE ON MIXED USE.
AND ALSO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THEY CAN ALSO AFFECT THE.
PLEASURE OF PARKS AND PATHS.
AS WELL AS THE AESTHETIC TOP QUALITY OF THE CITY LANDSCAPE. SOME OF THESE CONCERNS HAVE.
ALREADY OCCURRED IN CANADA. AS SHOWN BY THIS RECENT SHORT ARTICLE.
PERTAINING TO THE IMPACT OF DIGITAL.
JOIN HOME UNITS IN THE CITY OF WINNIPEG. CALGARY'' S COMMUNITY ADVANCEMENT.
STRATEGY ENVISIONS AND ADVERTISES GREATER DENSITY AT ROADWAY.
CORRIDORS. LARGE DIGITAL SIGNS ARE NOT ORIENTED IN THE DIRECTION OF PEDESTRIANS BUT.
RATHER IN THE DIRECTION OF THE MOTORISTS OF.
AUTOS AND THE EFFECTS OF THESE SIGNS MY DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM.
WANTING TO STAY IN THE AREAS.
WHERE OUR PLANS LOOK FOR TO PROMOTE VIBRANT, EFFICIENT MIXED.
USE AREAS. St.JOHN ' S, TORONTO AS WELL AS QUEBEC CITY HAVE MINIMUM 10-SECOND.
MESSAGE TIMES ALONG WITH AMBIENT.
LIGHT EMISSION REQUIREMENTS. AS WELL AS SOME RESTRICTIONS ON.
LOCATION. THE CITY OF VANCOUVER DOES NOT ALLOW ANY NEW BILLBOARDS IN ALL.
INCLUDING DIGITAL BILLBOARDS. THERE ARE LIKEWISE A SELECTION OF RULES IN DIFFERENT U.S. CITIES AND.
STATES WHERE ARE MINIMUM MESSAGE.
REFRESH TIMES ARRAY FROM 6 SECONDS TO 60 MINS WHILE MANY.
CITIES HAVE STRAIGHT-OUT BANS ON.
DIGITAL BILLBOARDS INCLUDING DENVER AS WELL AS DALLAS. THE PROPOSED RULES DO.
RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS An AREA FOR DIGITAL SIGNS IN.
CALGARY. THE POLICIES ARE DEVELOPED TO ALLOW BUT TO CONSERVATIVELY MANAGE.
THOSE INDICATIONS TILL COUNCIL.
ACCEPTS LONG-TERM PLAN AND RULES. THE REGULATIONS SUGGESTED IN LAW 15 P.
2011 INCLUDE A MINIMUM MESSAGE TIME OF 10 SECONDS WITH A.
OPTIMUM 1-SECOND TRANSITION.
TIME. THE 10-SECOND PERIOD MINIMIZES.
THE PROSPECTIVE FOR VEHICLE DRIVER.
DISTURBANCE. FULL MOTION VIDEO CLIP BLINKING OR.
ADJUSTMENTS IN COMPARISON OR.
ILLUMINATIONS DURING A MESSAGE ARE NOT ALLOWED. A MAXIMUM BRIGHTNESS DEGREE.
THROUGHOUT THE DAY AS WELL AS DURING THE NIGHT IS INCLUDED IN THE REGULATIONS. AND ALSO INDICATORS MUST NOT EXCESSIVELY SURPASS.
THE AMBIENT LIGHT LEVELS.DIGITAL ADVERTISING
SIGNS AND ALSO. ELECTRONIC MESSAGE SIGNS MUST BE. DIVIDED BY 300 METRES.
SHOWING A LONG-STANDING. EXISTING POLICY IN THE LAND USAGE. LAW.
WHO AREN'' T FAMILIAR WITH ME
, I ' M. HEADING INTO LAST YEAR ' S. CAMPAIGN, WE WEREN ' T QUITE SURE. > > I WEAR ' T KNOW THAT THE CONCERN. AS WELL AS NOW I ' VE HEARD IT ' S. CORPORATE RESIDENCES ISSUE. > > YOUR PRAYER, I ' M NOT ACQUAINTED WITH THAT SPECIFIC.AND ALSO DIGITAL SIGNS REQUIREMENT NOT BE
SITUATED WITHIN 30 METRES OF A.
ROAD CROSSWAY. THE REGULATIONS ALSO SUGGEST THE.
DIGITAL SIGNS SIGNS NOT BE.
SITUATED WITHIN 150 METRES OF THE HOUSE DEVICE IN THE BELT LINE.
OR MIDTOWN. AND 300 METRES OF A HOME SYSTEM ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY. THE METHOD MADE USE OF TO MEASURE THE.
TROUBLE IS SHOWN ON THE EXPENSES. THIS EXPENSES SHOWS A DIGITAL.
SIGNS AT A 300 METRE DISTANCE, YOUR WORSHIP. THE REGULATIONS LIKEWISE REQUIRE THAT.
DIGITAL THIRD PARTY ADVERTISING SIGNS BE LOCATED 14 METRES FROM.
A HOME LINE WHICH IS BASED.
ON AN 80 KILOMETRE-AN-HOUR MEANT SPEED LIMIT. THIS NEED CAN BE KICKED BACK.
WHEN THE PUBLISHED RATE LIMITATION IS 60 KILOMETRES AN, DOWN TO 6 METRES.
HR OR LESS. THE PROPOSED POLICIES ALSO NEED THE DIGITAL SIGNS BE SWITCHED OFF.
AT PARTICULAR HOURS WHEN NEAR.
RESIDENTIAL UTILIZES WITH THIS RULE ALSO BEING RELAXABLE. THE REMAINDER OF THE RULES FOR.
DIGITAL THIRD PARTY ADVERTISING SIGNS IN TERMS OF SIGHTING AND ALSO.
SETBACKS FROM MAJOR PARKS, THEIR.
SIZE AND ALSO LIMITED ROADWAYS STAY THE LIKE FOR.
CONVENTIONAL INDICATIONS. THE POLICIES IN DISTRICTS WHERE CONVENTIONAL 3RD PARTY.
MARKETING SIGNS CANISTER OCCUR.
STAY UNCHANGED BUT DIGITAL 3RD PARTY ADVERTISING AND MARKETING INDICATIONS.
ARE NOT PROPOSED TO BE LISTED AS.
DISCRETIONARY MAKES USE OF IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD, COMMUNITY AND.
INDUSTRIAL HALLWAY MIXED USAGE.
DISTRICTS WHERE STAYING SYSTEMS ARE ALLOWED AND ALSO.
ENCOURAGED. GOING FORWARD, YOUR PRAYER, MANAGEMENT WILL PROCEED TO.
CONNECT AND ALSO CONSULT WITH THE.
PUBLIC, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL AS THE SIGN AND ALSO ADVERTISING AND MARKETING.
MARKET TO COMPLETE THE TESTIMONIAL.
AND THE REDESIGN OF THE SIGN GUIDELINES. WITH CONCLUSION TARGETED AT THE.
END OF 2012.
CALGARY PREPARATION COMPENSATION.
SUGGESTS THAT COUNCIL ADOPT.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO BYLAW 1 P 2007 AS WELL AS PROVIDE 3 ANALYSES.
TO LAW 15 P 2011.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS VERY MUCH. ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR.
INFORMATION WHICH IS GIVEN THAT WE'' RE LOOKING AT THESE.
LAWS TODAY AS WELL AS YOU SHOWED ON A.
MAP THE LOCATION OF A NUMBER OF INDICATIONS, ARE THEY ALL ILLEGAL.
CURRENTLY AS WELL AS YET THEY'' RE UP. ANYWAY? > >> YOUR PRAISE, A VARIETY OF.
DIGITAL CELEBRATION MARKETING INDICATIONS.
HAVE BEEN ABRUISED BY THE SDAB.– AUTHORIZED. THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW BY.
ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS THERE'' S A MINIMUM OF ONE–.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THEY'' VE BEEN ACCEPTED IN A POLICY VACUUM CLEANER IS THAT FAIR TO.
SAY?
>>> >, THAT IN A VACUUM CLEANER FROM ANY POLICIES THAT ARE OVERT.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU. CONCERN OF INFORMATION,.
YOU OBTAIN QUESTIONS FOR ADMINISTRATION LATER. > > IT IS IN FACT A GENUINE QUESTION.
TO THE PICTURES WHERE IT'' S NIGHTTIME– AMONG THE REALLY.
FIRST SLIDES. YES.SOMETHING LIKE
THAT. NOW, YOU'' D DISCUSSED IN YOUR. PRESENTATION THAT THERE WERE VARIOUS LIGHTING LEVELS FOR
. ALL THE TIME? IS THAT CORRECT? DO YOU HAVE AN PICTURE OF ONE FOR.
THE DAY OR OTHERWISE? NOTHING CLOSER? BECAUSE THAT I TIN BARELY SEE.
> > I PUT ON ' T KNOW IF HE CANISTER ZOOM– IS THERE SOMETHING. > > IF THAT ' S ALL WE ' VE GOT, THAT ' S ALL WE ' VE GOT. THAT WAS MY INQUIRY.
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. > >
THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIPPRAISE
THE FIRST ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE ONE-SECOND CHANGE TIME THAT. YOU REFERENCED.
THE MAXIMUM CONTAINER ' T GO BEYOND ONE. > > YOUR PRAYER
, THE PURPOSE OF. THE GUIDELINE IS'TO THAT WE DON ' T HAVE MOVEMENT OR EFFECTS THAT.
MOVEMENT RIGHT, MOTION LEFT. >> > > BUT THE METHOD IT'' S WRITTEN, IT. DOESN ' T SAY THAT. IT CLAIMS THE MAXIMUM IS ONE SECONDLY.
SO THAT SUGGESTS I COULD HAVE IT. 1/10 OF A 2ND
>> WHICH WOULD RESEMBLE A FLASH. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I. THINK WHAT Mr. KIMBER
IS EXPRESSION IT WITH INSTANTANEOUSLY. SWITCH TO ANOTHER PHOTO. BUT WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE GUIDELINE IS TO STAY CLEAR OF ANIMATION. BUS THAT'' S WHAT ' S DISTRACTING. IF IT WAS GREATER THAN ONE SECOND YOU COULD HAVE
AN ANIMATION. GOING ON AT THE EXACT SAME TIME.
>> > > NO, BECAUSE– ANYWAYS, I CAN GO INTO INFORMATION FURTHER ABOUT.
THAT YOU TIN'' T HAVE IT FADE IN OR FADE OUT. WITH THE TRANSITION TIME. IT SHOULD BE A MINIMAL OF ONE SECOND, NOT A MAXIMUM.
SINCE IT COULD BE 1/100 OF A.
SECOND WHICH WOULD APPEAR LIKE A FLASH. THE 6 SECONDS VERSUS TEN SECS THAT YOU REFERENCED, I'' M. SIMPLY WONDERING, SINCE I ' VE.
IN THE 10-SECOND AMOUNT OF TIME.
>> >'> I ' LL ASK Mr. MELONSON TO.
PUT UP THE IDEAL METHOD.
RESEARCH. A VARIETY OF CITIES ARE START.
TO MANAGE IT. THE VERY BEST PRACTICES THAT WE'' VE IDENTIFIED FROM St. JOHN'' S,. QUEBEC CITY AND TORONTO ARE THAT.
THERE IS A 10-SECOND MESSAGE LAYOUT ON A 6-SECOND MESSAGE.
INDICATOR. THE FUNCTION, YOUR WORSHIP, OF THE MESSAGE PERIOD IS THAT–.
OR THE CONCEPT BEHIND IT IS.
THE FASTER THE IMAGES REFRESH, THE FASTER THEY REFRESH,.
THE GREATER CAPACITY THERE IS.
FOR MOTORIST DISTRACTION SO THAT THE CHAUFFEUR'' S FOCUS IS. ORIENTED TOWARDS THE INDICATIONS,.
EXPECTING THE NEXT INDICATION AND ALSO THE NEXT SIGN. SO THE LONGER PERIOD LESSENS.
THAT– >> > > YOU ' RE GOING WAY PAST THE.
QUESTION WHICH IS SIMPLY WHAT IS.
THE STANDARD, 10 SECONDLY VERSUS 6 SEC IF YOU HAD FURTHER.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WE ' RE ACQUIRING INTO DEBATE FROM. > > THANK YOU, Mr. KIMBER. AS WELL AS WHAT'' S THE GENESIS– OR WHAT'' S THE BASIS, WHAT ' S THE.
MUCH AWAY THE SIGN IS> FROM THE. HIGHWAY? > > YES, YOUR PRAYER.
NUMEROUS TROUBLES. > > YOUR WORSHIP, MAYOR NENSHI, I ' M WITH THE TRANSPORT. THE FIELD OF VISION, FIELD OF SIGHT, IS CHANGING DEPENDING ON.
SPEED. AT 60 KILOMETRES AN HR, AREA OF VIEW IS 20 ° AS WELL AS HUNDRED.
KILOMETRES AN HOUR IS 10 °. AS WELL AS THE LATERAL DISTANCE IS TRANSFORMING WITH THE SPEED. IN ADDITION, CEASING SIGHT.
DISTANCE IS CHANGING TOO FOR An AUTOMOBILE TO COME TO A FULL.
STOP. AT 60 KILOMETRES AN HOUR IS 85 METRES. AND AT HUNDRED KILOMETRES PER.
HR, WHICH IS FIRST COLUMN, IS …
[Indiscernible]>> > > WHAT IS THE BASIS ON WHICH THIS TABLE WAS CREATED? WAS THIS DEVELOPED FOR THIRD.
CELEBRATION SIGNS OR ESTABLISHED FOR FREEWAY SIGNAGE?
>> > > THESE ARE PRE-OWNED FOR– IT.
IS– THE TOOL IS CALLED– IT IS DEVELOPED FOR FREEWAY SIGNS. IF YOU'' RE TO QUIT PRIOR TO
THE RED. LIGHT– > > SIMPLY PUT IF I WAS.
DRIVING DOWN A FREEWAY, THAT'' S. THE LENGTH OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE ME TO RECOGNIZE AN EXIT INDICATOR SO I.
COULD ACTUALLY MANEUVER INTO THE.
LEAVE AT A GIVEN RATE.
>>> >, THAT>>. > > IT IS REALLY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO ACCOMPLISH.
> > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. >> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS, ALDERMAN LOWE.
CLARIFICATION, I'' M REALLY AMAZED BY THIS VISUAL, I.
HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO READ IT.
I SUCH AS GREAT DEALS OF NUMBERS, SO THANKS FOR THAT. I WILL ASK, THEN, IF THERE ARE.
MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC EXISTING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN.
FAVOUR OF THIS PROPOSAL. ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR OF THIS PROPOSITION. ANYONE WHO WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK.
> > THAT IS A BIG ALLEVIATION. EXCELLENT EARLY MORNING, YOUR WORSHIP, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
VICE-PRESIDENT OF PATTISON OUTDOOR ADVERTISING. I HAVE 35 DUPLICATES OF OUR.
IF I MAY, entry FOR PRESENTATION. MY INTENT IS TO BRIEFLY PROGRAM YOU.
AN ACTUAL STATIC DIGITAL BILLBOARD ADVERTISEMENT AS WELL AS MAKE SOME.
OVERALL COMMENTS. OUR INDUSTRY HAS BEEN COMPONENT OF THIS CITY FOR GREATER THAN A.
HUNDRED YEARS. AND THROUGH THE YEARS, WE'' VE EMPLOYED MANY NEW DIFFERENT.
TECHNOLOGIES FROM HAND PAINTING.
TO SILK SCREENING TO ROTARY POSTERS THAT SCREEN THREE.
DIFFERENT ADS ON SLABBERS 3 TO 4.
SECONDS AS YOU PRESENTLY SEE ON THE STREET. WE'' RE NOW IN THE DIGITAL AGE AND.
WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE IS OUR STATIC DIGITAL POSTER. THERE'' S A SEAMLESS CHANGE IN BETWEEN ADS.
THE BILLBOARD ' S SIZE IS A. CRITERION CALGARY SIZE, 10 FEET BY 20 FEET. THE INDICATIONS ARE EQUIPPED WITH.
THIS STYLE OF BILLBOARD ELIMINATES PAPER MODERN TECHNOLOGY AND ALSO. REQUIRES MUCH LESS MAINTENANCE.
THAN EXISTING BILLBOARDS.
OUR SECTOR HAS NO ISSUE WITH. INTERIM REGULATION OF THIS KIND.
INDICATIONS LIKE THIS EMPLOY A SIX-SECOND REFRESH PRICE LIKE WE. IN EDMONTON THEY SIMPLY ENDED UP A BRAND-NEW SET OF POLICIES, AND ALSO. THAT WAS ONE OF THE POINTS THAT.
THEM FOR THE GOOD OF ALL INVOLVED.
WHEN I CLAIM “ALL” I INDICATE TO. CONSIST OF THE “SECTOR AND ALSO THE HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES AND. CHARITIES IN CALGARY THAT. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TYPE OF MARKETING. AS LOCALS THAT ARE. ENLIGHTENED BY IT.THAT CLAIMED, OUR DIFFERENCES WITH.
MANAGEMENT NOW.
EMERGE MOSTLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE APPROACHED THIS TYPES OF SIGNS. AS SOMETHING SUBSTANTIALLY NEW AND.
HAVE BEEN IN THEIR WORD “CONSERVATIVE” WITH THESE POLICIES. WHERE MARKET SEES A REASONABLE.
AGREED TO LIGHT LEVEL AND IN A THREE-YEAR TERM FOR DIGITAL. WE DO NOT OBJECT TO MANY OF THE NEW GUIDELINES.
CONTAINER NOT AGREE WITH. ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE RULES AND ALSO. WILL CERTAINLY ACCEPT THE REGULATIONS WITH THE REASONABLE CHANGES WE WOULD LIKE.
TO SEE MADE TO THEM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU QUITE. I WAS REALLY LURED TO SAY THAT I COULDN ' T EMPHASIS
ON WHAT YOU. WERE SAYING DUE TO THE FACT THAT I WAS. DISTRACTED BY THE INDICATION BUT THAT WOULD BE MEAN.
QUESTIONS FOR Mr.FORSYTHE.
ALDERMAN HODGES. > > Mr. FORSYTHE, IF YOU PLACE.
> > BUT I CAN ' T SEE. THAT ' S WHY I ' M ASKING YOU. OF THE– TO THE INDICATION TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF IT.
OF IT. IT IS TOTALLY MONITORED AT.
ALL TIMES.
>> > > BUT DOES IT DISPLAY THE CARS OR DOES IT KEEP TRACK OF THE.
INDICATION?
>> > > IT CHECKS THE INDICATOR TO SEE TO IT IT'' S FUNCTIONING APPROPRIATELY.
>> > > WHAT IF IT ISN'' T? > > THEN IT ' S SEEN BY THE FOLKS THAT CHECK IT AND ALSO CONTAINER BE
SHUT. DOWN IN CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
>> >
> OKAY.DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE TIP OR.
SOMETHING THAT CONTAINER SHOW ME WHERE.
THIS ELECTRONIC CAMERA IS? THE ARM EXTENDING OUT THE BASE.
RIGHT-HAND MAN EDGE.
>> > > YEAH. EVERY ONE OF OUR SIGNS, IT IS HARD TO.
SEE, BUT THERE IS A CAMERA ON.
EACH ONE. >> > > CURRENTLY, THIS IS A MODERATE SIZE,.
IF WE WERE THINKING IN TERMS OF.
SIGNBOARDS. IS THIS A TYPICAL DIMENSION, MAXIMUM.
SIZE OR CRITERION SIZE?
>> > > THIS IS THE NORMAL CALGARY SIZE THAT YOU SEE MANY.
ALMOST EVERYWHERE, 10 FEET BY 20 FEET.
>> > > LOOKS A LITTLE SHORTER, IS THIS 10 BY 20?
>> > > YEAH.
10 BY 20.
ALL OF OUR SIGNS HAVE REPLACED.
EXISTING INDICATORS, 10 BY 20 INDICATORS.
> > IT SIMPLY
LOOKS A LITTLE. THANK YOU. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WE GOT SOME SPEAKERS LIST FOR YOU,.
Mr. FORSYTHE. SETTLE IN. ALDERMAN MAR M.P.
>> > > MANY THANKS. THANK YOU, Mr. FORSYTHE
. THIS– NOW, I HAD SOME
. QUESTIONS ABOUT LIGHT FOR. ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS AS'I RECOGNIZE IT, THERE ' S DIFFERENT. SORTS OF EITHER DAYTIME OR.
EVENING. AS WELL AS YOUR PRESENTATION
YOU SAID. THERE IS A CAMERA WHICH I CAN. SEE WHICH KEEPS AN EYE ON THE SIGN.
DOES THAT ALSO ALTER AS WELL AS.
CHANGE THE BRIGHTNESS OF >> THE. SIGN OVER TIME? > > AMBIENT LIGHT DOES MODIFICATION THE. INDICATOR SO THE LIGHT DOES– DEGREES. DO BOIL DOWN FAR MORE DURING THE NIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO PROBABLY–.> > > COULD YOU BEGIN THAT AGAIN?
>> > > I WISH TO DEFER YOUR CONCERN TO SOME LIGHTING PEOPLE.
WHO DO UNDERSTAND THE TECHNICAL.
ELEMENTS OF IT MUCH BETTER THAN I DO I DO.
>> > >
OKAY. PLEASE.WHOMEVER CONTAINER SOLUTION THE.
> > YOUR PRAYERS AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'' M WITH PATTISON. > > IN RESPONSE TO THE INQUIRY, THE CAM SERVES A VARIOUS.
FUNCTION SIMPLY FOR PROTECTION AS WELL AS.
MAINTAIN THE HONESTY OF THE INDICATOR AS WELL AS WE'' RE VIEWING IT FOR.
MAINTENANCE PERSONS, AS WELL AS OUR.
PROCEDURES CENTRE CANISTER VIEW IT. THE SECONDLY QUESTION THROUGH THE.
CHAIR, THROUGH THE MAYOR IS THE.
LIGHT SENSING UNIT, AGAIN DIFFICULT TO SEE BUT ON THE VERY TOP OF THE.
BILLBOARD IS THE LIGHT SENSOR ON.
LEADING OF THE DIGITAL SIGNBOARD IS A LIGHT SENSING UNIT FORM OF A.
BEEHIVE. YOU TIN BARELY SEE IT ABOVE HER HEAD THERE, A LITTLE WHITE.
GIZMO. THAT PROCEDURES THE AMBIENT LIGHTING LEVELS AROUND THE LOCATION. SO WHEN THE SIGN– SO DURING.
THE DAY, THE SIGN INTENSITY FUNCTIONS ONE OF THE MOST UP THE.
SUNLIGHT. AS WELL AS IN THE EVENING, IT DECREASE DOWNS TO 10% DEGREES CLEARLY DUE TO.
NIGHTTIME LEVELS THE SIGN.
DOESN'' T REQUIRED TO BE AS LIT LITTLE AS IT IS NOW, DROPS DOWN TO 10%.
OF THE DAYTIME LEVEL.
90% DROP.
>> > > THAT ' S INTERESTING. AND I PRESUME IT MODIFICATIONS– IT.
FLUCTUATES DURING THE DAY INSTANTLY. SENSORS AS WELL AS PROCEDURES.
>> > > CORRECT. CLOUDY DAY IT IS WOULD BE LESS.
THAN SUNNY DAYS AND MORE.
>> > > SO LOTS OF PEOPLE RECOGNIZE WITH EITHER THE ORDINARY BILLBOARD.
THAT'' S PAPERED UP AND ALSO YOU SEE.
THE GUYS PLACING IT UP. THERE'' S THE ONES WHICH ARE. TRIANGULAR FIT AND ALSO THEY.
READJUST. HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT IN TERMS.
OF THE TIMING OF THE ROTATING.
MECHANICAL ONES VERSUS THIS DIGITAL ONE?
>> > > GOOD INQUIRY. I CAN PROBABLY PROGRAM A VIDEO CLIP OF IT BUT I TIN EXPLAIN IT.
RAPIDLY.
>> > > YOU ' RE GOING TO PROGRAM A VIDEO? PERHAPS THERE'' S MUCH MORE.
>> DISCUSSION. > > I'TIN PREPARE– I ' M THE NEXT PRESENTER AS WELL AS I TIN
PREPARE AN.
>> RESPONSE TO THAT CONCERN.
> > YOUR PRAISE, MAYBE WHAT
I ' LL. >'> THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. I ' M NOT SURE IF YOU SAW.
NEW SORT OF PROPOSITION.
>> > > I ASSUME, AGAIN, ALDERMAN CHABOT, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT. WE HAVE RIGHT HERE WILL BE ADDRESSING.
THAT PROBLEM. THAT WILL CERTAINLY COME AS COMPONENT OF OUR.
> > SIX SECONDLY VERSUS TEN SECOND. ADMINISTRATION HAS SUGGESTED THE STANDARD IS EVEN MORE TEN SECONDS.
EXPERIENCE OR YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS–.
>> > > ONCE AGAIN, THAT WILL BE COVERED. WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.WE WILL BE TREATMENT THAT ISSUE. AS TO WHERE OUR SIGNS HAVE A. SIX-SECOND REFRESH PRICE IN ADDITION TO MANY OTHERS. FAR MORE IN-DEPTH DETAILS. ON THAT. > > WHAT QUESTIONS WOULD YOU
LIKE. >> ME TO ASK YOU? > > WELL … REALLY, YES
>>, HAPPY TO ANSWER.
CONCERNS BUT POSSIBLY AT THE.
END. WE DO HAVE SPECIFIC DETAILED.
PRESENTATIONS THAT HAVE COVERED.
EVERY ONE OF THESE AND I THINK IT'' S BEST TO HAVE THEM RESPONSE FOR.
YOU. THEY HAVE CHARTS AND ALSO GRAPHS IN SOME CASES AS WELL AS ADMITTED LIGHTING.
PROFESSIONALS AND TRANSPORTATION.
PROFESSIONALS.
>> > > OKAY. Mr. FORSYTHE AFTER THAT, WHAT ABOUT.
LAND USAGE ONES? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD–.
>> > > POINT OF ORDER.
>> > > THIS GENT RIGHT BELOW. >> > > CANISTER WE HAVE THE FULL.
PRESENTATION AND ALSO THEN PERHAPS ASK.
QUESTIONS? >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: NO. SINCE THAT WOULD BE A WAY OF.
SOMEONE GETTING METHOD GREATER THAN THEIR FIVE MINS THAN THEY'' RE. FORMERLY ALLOTTED. YOU WEAR'' T OBTAIN TO RETURN, SO ANSWER WHAT YOU CONDITIO YOU CA.
>> > > I ASSUME I ' LL ACCEPT THAT.
DEAL. THANKS.
>> > > SOME OF THE LAND USAGE THAT ARE.
RESTRICTED, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU THINK SHOULD BE AMENDED? I KNOW I'' D MET WITH AMONG YOUR. ASSOCIATES PARTICULARLY IN CONNECTION WITH C-CORE AREAS.
BEING PROHIBITED.
>> > > WE DO HAVE GRAVE WORRIES ABOUT THE AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY.
INCLUDED THAT MANAGEMENT HAS.
BROUGHT FORWARD.AGAIN, I ASSUME Mr.REBEKAS IN. HIS DISCUSSION WILL BE DID YOU.
EVERRINCOVERINGIN SOME DETIL DE. >> > > I NOTICED THE SIGN WAS.
CHANGING RAPIDLY FROM ONE TO THE.
NEXT AND ALSO TO ME A SUDDEN MODIFICATION LIKE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT.
WOULD DRAW MY INTEREST. IT'' S AKIN TO FLASH.
IT MAY NOT BE A FLASH.
SINCE THERE ' S A SPECIFIC LIGHT. RESULT ASSOCIATED WITH THESE DEVICES, THIS IS NOT A
MIRRORED. LIGHT CONCERN, THIS IS A. TRANSMITTED LIGHT.
WHEN YOU CHANGE FROM ONE.
PICTURE TO THE NEXT, LIKE THAT,. WITHOUT A CHANGE TIME ASSOCIATED WITH IT, OR MINIMAL.
SHIFT TIME, IT RESEMBLES A.
FLASH.IT ATTRACTS MY FOCUS. ANY SORT OF A CHANGE LIKE THAT.
WILL ATTRACT INDIVIDUALS'' S FOCUS. AS WELL AS THE MODERN TECHNOLOGY EXISTS FOR.
YOU GUYS TO MAKE THAT SHIFT.
WITH X NUMBER OF PIXELS OR TWO LOTS LINES AS A TRANSITION OVER.
THE ENTIRE SCREEN OVER A LONGER.
AMOUNT OF TIME WHICH WOULD APPEAR LESS LIKE A FLASH. EVEN MORE– SOMETHING THAT'' S EVEN MORE. SIMILAR TO THE MECHANICAL ONES THAT WE SEE WHERE THEY TURN OVER.
ONE SECTION AT ONCE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER AS PART OF THE
. CHANGE IN BETWEEN THE TWO AS.
OPPOSED TO THIS SUDDEN MODIFICATION? >> > > CERTAINLY THE TECHNOLOGY.
WOULD EXIST. THIS IS OUR CURRENT DESIGN THAT WE UTILIZE THROUGHOUT THE.
PROVINCE AND WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE.
COUNTRY.AGAIN, THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF IT. IN REGARDS TO HOW
THAT WOULD. EFFECT OUR SIGNS PROBABLY BETTS LEFT WITH Mr. REBEKAS. THAT UNDERSTANDS EVEN MORE ABOUT THE.
WORKINGS OF THE INDICATION. > > AND LAWS COMPOSED TO.> FIT THAT SORT OF.
CHANGE.
AS WELL AS, TO ME, THAT IS WRONG. WHEN IT ALTERS ALL OF A SUDDEN LIKE.
THAT, IT'' S AKIN TO A FLASH. IT MAY BE A FIXED PICTURE THAT. ORIGINATES FROM AND ALSO GOES TO, BUT. IT INSTANTLY because IT ' S An UNEXPECTED CHANGE LIKE THAT.
ATTRACTS YOUR INTEREST TO IT. AS WELL AS THAT COULD BE DISTRACTING. AS WELL AS– WHICH IS WHY I WOULD.
PREFER TO HAVE SEEN SOMETHING.
THAT HAD A LONGER SHIFT TIME IN BETWEEN ONE DISPLAY SCREEN AND ALSO THE.
NEXT. AND BEING AS IT BECAME PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION, I THOUGHT I'' D. ADDRESS IT RIGHT HERE WITH YOU CURRENTLY. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT.
WOULD SEEP THAT SEEM THAT I WIE.
TO ADDRESS SEVERAL OF MY QUESTIONS WITH OTHER PRESENTERS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
ALDERMAN CARRA? >> > > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. CANISTER YOU SORT OF– YOU'' RE RIGHT HERE. REPRESENTING THE SPECIALIST 3RD PARTY INDICATION SECTOR. CANISTER YOU PERHAPS SET APART.
IN BETWEEN THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO AS WELL AS SEVERAL OF THE KIND OF.
SIGNBOARD FLASHY SIGNS THAT WE.
SEE ON MACLEOD PATH THESE DAYS? >> > > WELL, I– I TIN JUST SPEAK.
TO REALLY OUR SPECIFIC SIGNS. OUR COMPANY HAS ACTUALLY ALWAYS ADOPTED THIS DESIGN THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE.
WHICH STANDS FOR STATIC.
TECHNOLOGY.WE ' VE DONE
A GREAT DEAL OF FUNCTION AND ALSO.
DONE A GREAT DEAL OF STUDIES AND FIND.
THAT FOR OUR VERSION OF ORGANIZATION, 3RD PARTY ADVERTISING, IT IS.
THE ITEM AS WELL AS THIS IS THE.
FUNCTIONS OF THE INDICATION THAT ARE BEST FOR US. THERE ARE I BELIEVE SOME FIRST.
EVENT INDICATOR REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE LIKELY RIGHT HERE THESE DAYS THAT CANISTER.
SPEAK WITH THE SHOWY VIDEO CLIP INDICATION. A FEW OF THE INDICATIONS– A I'' M NOT CONSCIOUS OF THE SOME and authorizations–.
ON SEVERAL OF THE VARIOUS OTHER ONES. I DO KNOW McMAHON STADIUM AT CROWCHILD PATH IS A WHOLE.
SEPARATE CONCERN THAT DOES HAVE.
THE VIDEO CLIP SIGN AND WE'' RE OFTEN CONFUSED AS WELL AS IT'' S– OUR– THAT.
IT ' S OUR SIGN >> BUT THAT IS NOT.
>> OUR MODERN TECHNOLOGY. > > THANK YOU.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN CARRA.ALDERMAN LOWE?
>> > > THANK YOU. AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS, I TIN MOST LIKELY TO THE.
NEXT INDIVIDUAL. I'' M CURIOUS CONCERNING TROUBLE FROM THE SIDE OF THE ROAD INDICATION. IF YOU'' RE NOT, I CAN
TALK TO. Mr. REBEKAS WHENEVER HE STANDS. I'' M THINKING ABOUT THE SPEED.
RESTRICTION WHEN DRIVING THAT GOES BY THERE AS WELL AS WHETHER OR NOT THAT.
AFFECTS YOUR COMPANY'' S. DETERMINATION OF AN APPROPRIATE VETBACK FROM A ROAD. AS WELL AS IF YOU TIN'' T ANSWER THAT, I. CANISTER APPRECIATE THAT. >> > > CERTAINLY I THINK IT'' S. PROBABLY BEST LEFT WITH.
Mr. REBEKAS THAT IS THE EXPERT BECAUSE LOCATION.
>> > > MY LAST QUESTION IS DOES.
PATTISON AND I'' M CONSIDERING PICADILLY CIRCUS, THAT'' S THIRD.
EVENT ADVERTISING AND MARKETING, TIMES SQUARE. DO WE HAVE ANY EXAMPLES OF THAT IN THE CITY THAT YOUR BUSINESS.
OPERATES?
>> > > THAT OUR BUSINESS RUNS, NO.
>> > > ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ANY ONE OF THAT.
KIND OF 3RD PARTY SIGNS– >> > > THE JUST ONE THAT REALLY.
COMES CLOSE WIDESPREAD IS.
THE ONE ON– AT McMAHON STADIUM.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
> > I ASSUME, ONCE MORE, ALDERMAN CHABOT, SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT. > > SIX SECOND VERSUS 10 SECOND. > > ONCE MORE, THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE COVERED. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.ON A MASSIVE BASIS, ON
> > AND ALSO THAT ' S ON FROM WHAT I.
UNDERSTAND FEDERAL LAND NOT SUBJECT TO THE CITY. COLLEGE OF CALGARY FEDERAL–.
> >'IT ' S U OF C LAND. >> > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I ' M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE RANGE OF YOUR BUSINESS ' S PROCEDURES.
ACROSS CANADA, BUT I DO KNOW.
THAT IN TORONTO FOR EXAMPLE IN THE YONGE ROAD PASSAGE THERE.
ARE A WHOLE LOT OF MOVING VIDEO.
SCREEN INDICATIONS. > > THE MAJORITY OF ARE NOT. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: CANISTER.
MAY HAVE SEEN A VARIETY OF.
DIFFERENT SCIENTIFIC RESEARCHES AND DUNDAS MAKE EVEN IS A WHOLE LOCATION SIMILAR.
TO A SMALLER TIMES SQUARE, IF.
YOU WILL. DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AND SITUATIONS. I'' M NOT– A GREAT DEAL OF THAT IS A. SEPARATE 3RD PARTY ADVERTISING AND MARKETING ON-PREMISE SIGNAGE IN SOME.
INSTANCES. I'' M NOT TOTALLY WEA MINDFUL OFL THE INFORMATION AND FACTS OF THAT. OUR KIND OF INDICATION, GENERALLY WE.
USE A SMALLER SIZE OF 10 BY 20 THAT ARE SEPARATE FROM THOSE.
COLLECTION LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN.
BUILT ESPECIALLY WITHIN A CITY.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: IF.
> > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I GUESS, AS WELL AS WE ' VE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDICATORS AND ALSO
. WE KNOW THE MECHANICAL ONES THAT.
ROTATE AS WELL AS THE STATIONARY ONES. THOSE OBVIOUSLY ARE LIT UP FROM.
WITHIN SO THERE'' S NO EXTERNAL.
LIGHT SHINING ON THE INDICATION SINCE IT IS THE SIGN THAT IS.
LIT ITSELF.
>> > > CORRECT >>. > > WE DO HAVE SIGNS THAT ARE LIT.
WITHOUT. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE OVERHANGING LIGHTS OR ONES.
UNDERNEATH AS WELL AS THEN WE HAVE THE.
> > HOW IS THIS– IT ' S EXTREMELY. HOW IS THESE LAWS DIFFERENT IN MANAGING THOSE.
THREE VARIOUS TYPES OF INDICATORS? SO I'' M LOOKING FOR POINTS LIKE THE LUMINATION, VARIOUS THAN.
THE ONES THAT HAVE THE.
FIXED OR THE TURNING LOCATION-WISE, ALL OF THOSE.
TYPE OF POINTS. I'' M REALLY LOOKING AT– IF I CHECK OUT THIS INDICATOR,
IT MAY BE A. LESS INTRUSIVE– I'' M UNCERTAIN. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE VARIOUS OTHER ONES MAY ACTUALLY GIVE YOU MORE.
LUMINATION THAN THIS SET DOES IN.
A RESIDENTIAL AREA.I DON'' T KNOW, AND THAT ' S WHAT.
I ' >> M LOOKING FOR, SOMETHING ALONG.
THOSE LINES. > > OUR SIGNS HAVE INVARIABLY. REPLACED EXISTING LINES. SOME ARE FRONT LIT FROM OVER OR
LISTED BELOW, OTHERS ARE BACK LIT SIGNS. THAT ARE STATIC. TOUGH TO RESPONSE YOUR INQUIRY. POSSIBLY, ONCE AGAIN, Mr. REBEKAS. IS BETTER AT TREATMENT THAT OFF. –.
>> > > I THINK SO THAT WE.
FOLLOW UP, WHERE I'' M UPCOMING FROM IS I WANT TO KNOW HOW. THESE NEW POLICIES DEAL WITH.
THESE DIFFERENTLY THAN TECHNICALLY ANY OTHER INDICATOR. ALL INDICATIONS since IN MY SIGHT.
SHOULD BE EQUAL. REASONABLY.
>> > > WITHIN FACTOR WE AGREE. AND ALSO WE DO SEE THIS AS AN EVOLUTION IN INNOVATION. A DIGITAL– WE ARE DIGITAL.
WHATEVER NOW.AND WE DO
SEE THIS AS A.
SHIFT FROM OUR EXISTING.
INDICATORS. THE ROTARY ONES THAT ADJUSTMENT.
EVERY 3 TO 4 SECONDS TO INDICATORS.
THAT CHANGE EVERY 6 SEC CURRENTLY. >> > > IF THESE ARE RESTRICTED IN A.
CERTAIN LOCATION, COMPARED TO OTHER.
INDICATIONS, BUT THE LUMINATION ON THE OTHER SIGNS IS ABOVE THIS.
I ASK YOURSELF WHY.
>> > > ONE OF OUR EXCELLENT ISSUES. CORRECT.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN KEATING. EL ADAM? KEAT ALDERMAN.
DEMONG? >> > > HOW MUCH AWAY ARE WE FROM.
THIS?
>> > > BOY, THAT'' S NOT AN SIMPLE QUESTION. WE ' RE– >> THROUGHOUT THE STREET,. OBVIOUSLY– > > JUST REFERRING IN RECOMMENDATION.
I SUGGEST JUST THOUGHT IF YOU'' RE MAKING A DISCUSSION. > > THANK YOU.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THAT. WAS EASY. THANK YOU, ALDERMAN DEMONG. ALDERMAN COLLEY-URQUHART? > > THANKS, Mr.FORSYTHE, FOR BEING BELOW. I'' M TRYING TO SHARPEN IN ON YOUR.
DISCUSSION. I JUST OBTAINED IT TODAY. , if YOU COULD– I WANT TO DEVELOP.
.
I THINK THAT'' S UNDER TAB ONE,. THE SECOND WEB PAGE.
4 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU.
REFERRAL THERE. CORRECT?
>> > > CORRECT.
>> > > SO COULD WE GO THROUGH THOSE. RECOMMENDATIONS …
[Indiscernible]
TO BAN THIRD PARTY MARKETING. WHERE EXACTLY IN THE BYLAW ARE.
YOU REFERRING TO THIS.
POINT? HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT?
>> > > I ASK FORGIVENESS, ALDERMAN. Mr. BARDSLY WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT INQUIRY IN HIS.
RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> > > SO YOU CONCUR WITH THE SUGGESTED AREAS BESIDES.
THE ONES THAT YOU'' VE OUTLINED.
THERE. CONTAINER YOU DISCUSS WHY. OR HAVE YOU DONE THAT SOMEWHERE.
ELSE IN HERE? >> > > YEAH, THIS WILL CERTAINLY BE–.
>> > > THAT ' S WHAT YOU ' RE TALKING.
>> ABOUT. > > O.K.. > > HOW ABOUT THE SECONDLY. REFERRAL THAT YOU ' RE ASKING THAT THIS NOT BE TAKEN ON.
AND– IS A PERSON ELSE GOING TO. TALK ABOUT THAT ONE
>>? > > YES. > > AND WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT ONE? SECTOR ASKS FOR THIS NOT TO BE ADOPTED. WHY?
>> > > ONCE AGAIN– >> > > SAME>>? > > YES.
>> > > AND THE VERY SAME WITH THE LAST ONE? OK. DO YOU HAVE OTHER MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU'' RE TAKING ONWARD? WILL ANOTHER PERSON BE HANDLING.
WITH THAT SAID ALSO? >> > > THEY WILL CERTAINLY
>>. >'> IT ' S UNFORTUNATE'THAT WE ' VE. GONE THIS– I INDICATE, IT ' S NOT UNUSUAL FOR United States TO HAVE COMBINED.
INQUIRIES as well as discussions.
AROUND EACH– EVEN IF IT DOES TAKE LONGER THAN THE 5. THIS IS VARIOUS PROCEDURE. IT TRULY DOESN'' T GET TO THE IDEAL DISCUSSION CONCERNING THIS.
ISSUE.
>> > > AND ALSO I EXCUSE
THAT.IT WAS MY OBJECTIVE TO PRESENT THE.
ITEM AND PROVIDE ESSENTIALLY AN.
OUTLINE AND AFTERWARDS– >> > > HOW MANY OTHERS WILL BE.
> > WE HAVE FOUR. > > 4 OTHERS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: AND,.
INDICATION FLASHING IRREGULARLY AND ALSO I ' M WONDERING WHAT TYPE OF. CONTROLS REMAIN IN LOCATION TO SHUT.
DONE THE SIGN OR CHANGE THE MESSAGING OR IF THERE IS. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
PROMPTLY IF THERE ' S AN ALARM THAT COMES IN THAT THERE IS. SOMETHING ESSENTIALLY INCORRECT.
> > THERE ' S A DEFAULT THAT IT JUST SHUTS DOWN. I ' D LIKE TO DIG INTO THE 300. METRE ISSUE AND I ' M WONDERING IF YOU ' RE THE VERY BEST PERSON TO ASK. CONCERNING THAT. > > NEXT PRESENTER.
> > MANY THANKS VERY MUCH. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:
>>. MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN POOTMANS.> ALDERMAN JONES.
> > THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP. SO YOU PUT ON ' DON ' T INTEND TO ANSWEY QUESTIONS … > > APPARENTLY I ' M REFRAINING FROM DOING A. REALLY EXCELLENT TASK AT IT.
>> > > I'' LL LEAVE THOSE CONCERNS. >> I'JUST HAVE ONE AFTER THAT. IN TAB 2, ON PAGE 2 YOU HAVE DIGITAL POSTERS, DIGITAL.
SPECTACULARS, DIGITAL MALL …
[Indiscernible] CAN YOU CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE?
>> > > DIGITAL POSTERS ARE THE KIND.
YOU SEE BELOW, DIGITAL MALL UNITS ARE A PRODUCT WE HAVE IN MALLS.
LIKE SOUTHCENTRE THAT ARE.
SMALLER, OBVIOUS KIOSK TYPE THAT WILL HAVE MEANS LISTE HAVE-FINDINS.
WELL. SUNRIDGE MALL HAS THERM. AND ALSO ELECTRONIC SPECTACULARS ARE THE.
LARGE– GENERALLY 14 FEET HIGH BY 48 FEET LONG, SPECTACULARS. MUCH LARGER. WE ARE UNABLE TO– WE DO NOT CONSTRUCT THOSE IN CALGARY, BUT WE.
HAVE BUILT THOSE AT THE CALGARY.
AIRPORT TERMINAL ON FLIGHT TERMINAL TRAIL.AND YOU MAY
SEE THEM IN OTHER PLACES.
> > WE HAVE ONE IN CALGARY. > > ON AIRPORT TERMINAL TRAIL. > > EXACTLY.
IN FACT. THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN JONES. I ' M WONDERING IF WE CONTAINER REASSESS.
HOW THIS COMPONENT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING IS FUNCTIONING AND ALSO ASK THE.
IF THEY WOULD LIKE A.
COMBINED PRESENTATION WHERE IN WHICH EACH GET OBTAIN MINUTES, speakersMINS AFTER THAT WE'' LL BE ABLE TO ASK ANY
OF. THE SPEAKERS THE QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I TIN
SEE US REPEATING. THIS FOR EACH AND EVERY PRESENTER. WOULD YOU PLEASE– >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
ALDERMAN PINCOTT?
>> > > JOHN SMITH. THEY CAN LEAD TO THAT. I WAS SIMPLY GOING TO SAY THIS.
WAS A PROCEDURE WE WERE INFORMED TO FOLLOW.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THERE'' S NO REAL ABILITY FOR A JOINT PRESENTATION. WHAT WE CANISTER DO IS ALDERMAN.
FARRELL IS SUGGESTING IS LISTEN TO EVERY ONE OF THEM AND AFTER THAT ASK.
INQUIRIES AT THE END.
>> > > THAT ' S WHAT WE WERE CHATTING ABOUT BUT I INTENDED TO LET.
COUNCIL KNOW THIS IS THE.
TREATMENT THE MANNER IN WHICH THE TREATMENT LAW MANDATES, NOT.
SOMETHING–.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: HONESTLY IT'' S A BIT OFF.
YOU OUGHT TO HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO. EXISTING YOUR CASE.PERIOD. AND I COMPREHEND THAT YOU HAVE A. NUMBER OF VARIOUS NUANCES THAT I WILL CLAIM THAT THIS IS A BIT.
NAVIGATING THE LEGISLATIONS THAT WE.
RUN UNDER. BUT IF IT IS WHAT IT IS, YOU.
BROUGHT INDIVIDUALS, YOU HAVE.
DISCUSSION. >> > > WITH RESPECT, YOUR WORSHIP,. IF WE HAVE AS MUCH
TIME AS THE. ADMINISTRATION DOES I EXPECT THAT WOULD BE PENALTY TOO INCLUDING.
INQUIRIES BUT THAT WOULD KEEP United States.
BELOW FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, WOULD IT NOT, WITH REGARD.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: IN MY.
LIFE, SIR, I HAVE OFFERED TO THIS COUNCIL LOTS OF WHEREBY LOTS.
TIMES BEFORE I GOT TO SIT OVER.
RIGHT HERE. AS ALDERMAN COLLEY-URQUHART WELL.
KNOWS, WHEN SHE ASKS ME.
CONCERNS, WE CANISTER GO ON FOR AN HR. MY OPTIMUM WAS AN HOUR AND 20.
MINS IN DEPENDING ON THAT PODIUM–.
>> > > I PUT ON ' T MEAN TO BE IMPERMIT.
>> > > Mayor Naheed NenshiIMPERTINE. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: LET'' S. JUST BE CLEAR ON WHAT WE ' RE
.
BECAUSE OF IN WHICH WE, talking ABOUT.IT ' S NOT.
ORIGINATE FROM THAT WE OBTAIN SPECIAL.
APPROVAL THAT REGULAR CITIZENS PUT ON'' T
>> OBTAIN. > > I APOLOGIZE PROFUSELY. THAT WAS CERTAINLY NOT MY OBJECTIVE AT ALL.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU. >> > > I SAY SORRY AGAIN.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
IALDERMAN PINCOTT. >> > > MANY THANKS. IF IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER I.
WOULD MOVE A MOVEMENT THAT WE ASK THE PRESENTERS TO DO A COMBINED.
DISCUSSION OF NO EVEN MORE THAN 20.
MINS. >> > > 15>>. > > SORRY, 15 MINS THEN? I WILL ACCEPT THAT. I WILL RELOCATE THAT MOVEMENT. SINCE IN THIS WAY WE COULD GO.
AROUND– WE CANISTER DO IT AS A COUNCIL MOVEMENT.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: MADAME.
ON THAT ONE ARE WE AGREED? EXTREMELY WELL AFTER THAT. > > I HAVE ONE INQUIRY WHICH POSSIBLY WILL CERTAINLY GO TO THE NEXT.
PERSON. AND IT'' S KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT ALDERMAN KEATING WAS ASKING.
ABOUT, COMPARING LOOKING AT THE.
LIGHTS OF DIFFERENT SIGNS.THESE ARE NOT
THE ONLY INDICATIONS.
WE HAVE OTHER SIGNS THAT ARE LIT, BUT THEY'' RE LIT FROM THE. > > FROM THE EXTERIOR AS WELL AS WE DO.
HAVE SOME BACK LIT INSIDE.
INDICATIONS. >> > > EXIST ANY AMBIENT LIGHT.
MEASUREMENT DEMANDS ON ANY.
OF THOSE INDICATIONS? >> > > NOT TO MY UNDERSTANDING. NO.
>> > > DO YOU MEASURE THE LIGHT LEVELS COMING OFF THOSE INDICATION?
>> > > WE HAVE NOT
>>. > > DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU WEAR ' T REQUIRED TO. IT ' S NOT COMPONENT OF THE POLICY. O.K.. THANK YOU. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
WHY DON'' T WE TAKE THE NEXT
. ONCE MORE I ' LL ASK STAFF TO TURN
THE. > > YOUR PRAYER, MEMBERS OF.
COUNCIL, MY NAME'' S CHRIS. REBEKAS, SUPERVISOR OF LEASING WITH PATTISON OUTDOOR.
I'' LL GO INTO MY PRESENTATION. I'' M HERE TO SPEAK TO– AND TO SPEAK AGAINST THE POLICIES THAT
ARE.
INDUSTRY.THE FIRST POLICY
ELIMINATES SIGNS.
AS A DISCRETIONARY USE IN C-CORE.
ONE, C-CORE 2, INDUSTRIAL SIDE, SCRI DISTRICTS. THE SECOND POLICY– SORRY, THE.
SECOND GUIDELINE IS ABOLISHING THE SIGNS FROM 300 METRES FROM A.
BUILDING CONTAINING A DWELLING.
SYSTEM. AND 150 METRES FROM FROM A DWEG.
SYSTEM IN THE CORE OF CALGARY,.
CITY OF CALGARY. AND ALSO THESE GUIDELINES ARE NOT.
RELAXABLE. THE LAST TWO I SIMPLY STATED … [Indistinct] CANISTER'' T GO TO THE ALLURE BOARD AND.
SUGGEST IF THE INDICATION IS NOT EVEN VISIBLE, IF THERE'' S STRUCTURES IN.
IN BETWEEN An INDICATOR AS WELL AS THE. RESIDENTIAL, WE CAN ' T ARGUE THAT CASE. 3RD RULE IS THE COMPULSORY 14.
METRE SETBACK.TODAY THE RULE IS 6 METRES. AND ALSO REMEMBER THIS IS OBSTACLE. FROM THE BUILDING LINE, NOT FROM THE EDGE OF THE ROADWAY. SO ADDITIONALLY AS WE KNOW FROM. THE EDGE OF THE ROAD THERE ' S OTHER SETBACKS BETWEEN THE SIDE. OF THE ROAD AND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. LINE. COULD ALREADY BE EXTENSIVE. SETBACKS ALREADY IN PLACE.
AND ALSO THE FOURTH GUIDELINE IS THE SPLITTING UP OF DIGITAL SIGNBOARD,. 3RD CELEBRATION SIGN WITH ELECTRONIC. MESSAGE INDICATOR.
ANY KIND OF SIGN THAT HAS A.
BIT LITTLE BIT DIGITAL ELECTRONIC.
PART WOULD NEED 300 METRE SPLITTING UP. AND THE LAST POLICY WHICH WOULD.
BE THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL CERTAINLY ADDRESS IS THE REFRESH RATE. THAT'' S BEEN DISCUSSED A PAIR.
TIMES AS'WELL.WE ' RE HERE TO DEMAND THAT THE 6.
SECOND BE THE NORM AS CITIES IN.
VARIOUS OTHER LOCATIONS. IT WAS ONLY RECENTLY EXPLAINED.
TO United States THAT LED ADMINISTRATION TO.
RECOMMEND THESE REGULATIONS THAT I'' M ADDRESSING. AND AS MENTIONED, WE REMAIN IN.
ARGUMENT WITH THE APPROACH ADMINISTRATION HAS TAKEN TO.
THESE MATTERS WHICH ARE MORE.
PROHIBITORY THAN REGULATORY CONSIDERING THESE ARE ONLY.
INTERIM POLICIES. THESE GUIDELINES WILL SEVERELY IMPAIR THE SECTOR AND THE COUNTLESS.
COMPANIES AND CHARITIES WHICH.
UTILIZE THIS KIND OF ADVERTISING ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO PROHIBIT.
DIGITAL BILLBOARDS IN A NUMBER.
OF LAND USAGE DISTRICTS WHERE BILLBOARDS ARE NOW ENABLED. AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THESE ARE.
C-CORE 1, 2, SCRI. WE UNDERSTAND THE.
ADMINISTRATION'' S RATIONALE FOR. THIS IS THAT IN THE FIRST TWO DISTRICTS, C-CORE 1 AND 2s.
THESE ARE PEDESTRIAN LOCATIONS AND.
AS A RESULT MANAGEMENT ARE CONSIDERING BANNING ALL THIRD.
EVENT INDICATIONS FROM THEM IN DUE.
COURSE.THAT IS OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 18. MONTHS AS WE MEET TO EVALUATION THE. LAW WHICH WILL ADDRESS SIGNS– ALL THIRD CELEBRATION SIGNS. IN ENHANCEMENT TO DIGITAL SIGNS
. PRIOR TO YOU TODAY.
MANAGEMENT FEELS THAT IF. THEY ARE THINKING IN THAT. DIRECTION, IT WOULD BE BEST NOT TO LET SECTOR PUT UP ANY. DIGITAL BILLBOARDS WHILE THIS.
IF, REVIEW IS ONGOING AS IT WOULD THEN BE TOUGH TO OBTAIN THEM–. THE RESTRICTION IS ESTABLISHED DOWN THE. ROAD IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN THEM OUT. THEY ALSO PROVIDE SOME OTHER. FACTORS SUCH AS ESTHETICS FOR SUSTAINING SUCH A BAN CURRENTLY. I INTENDED TO OFFER YOU A PAIR OF. EXAMPLES OF IMPACT OF– SORRY, SIMPLY VERBALLY, C-CORE 1, 2s.
COMMON ROADWAYS THAT''
S NO. ZONINGS ARE FOUND ARE MACLEOD TRAIL As Well As 16th AVENUE. THOSE ARE ROADS THAT.
CURRENTLY ALLOW THIRD CELEBRATION ADVERTISING AND MARKETING SIGNS, FACT, SD.
BILLBOARDS IF YOU WILL AS WELL AS HAVE.
BEEN A, COMMON AREA YOU LOCATE THESE CHECK IN. OUR PROBLEM IS WE HAVE NOT BEEN.
ABLE TO TRANSFORM OR ADD TO OUR BILLBOARDS ON MACLEOD ROUTE AND ALSO.
16th Opportunities AND ALSO DIFFER.
THAT THESE KIND EVER ZONING NEED TO BE BANNED FROM IT. SCIR IS A ZONING THAT IS.
DEFINITELY ESSENTIALLY RAILWAY RESIDENCES, TRAIN.
LINES, RIGHT OF WAYS AND ALSO SIGNS.
MAY THERE TODAY.THE RESTRICTION OF A DIGITAL. SIGNBOARD, I ' LL TAKE CARE OF'THE.
SECOND GUIDELINE HERE, WITHIN 300 METRES OF A BUILDING CONTAINING.
A DWELLING SYSTEM IS An OBSTACLE.
FOR United States. THERE IS ALREADY A RULE IN AREA.
IN THE LAW THAT PROHINTS THE.
IMPACTS OF THIRD PARTY AUTHORIZES ON RESIDENTIAL AREAS. BY CHANGING THAT TO THE WORDS.
HOUSE DEVICE OR CONSTRUCTING HAVING A HOUSE SYSTEM, AND.
BY PRODUCTION THIS PROHIBITION NOT.
RELAXABLE, ADMINISTRATION IS BROADENING OF THE SCOPE OF THE.
RULE AND ALSO SAYING IN NO.
CIRCUMSTANCES CANISTER THE EFFECT OF SUCH A SIGN WITHIN 300 METRES BE.
DEALT WITH BY DEVELOPMENT LICENSE.
ON THIS DIAGRAM I ' M HIGHLIGHTING SOME SIGNS HERE ON. MACLEOD TRAIL In Between 42nd.
And Also 45th method.
THIS IS SIMPLY AN EXAMPLE OF.
3, 4 THIRD PARTY INDICATORS.
THAT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED, HAVE A PERMIT AND ALSO IF WE WERE TO.
TECHNIQUE THE CITY TODAY AS WELL AS.
CHANGE AMONG THOSE INDICATORS TO A DIGITAL, THE CITY WOULD SAY NO.
SINCE THEY WOULD TAKE THE.
COMPASS POINT, DO THE 300 METRE AREA AS WELL AS SAY IF THERE'' S. ANY RESIDENTIAL WITHIN 300.
METRES OR A STRUCTURE ON MACLEOD ROUTE THAT HAS A RESIDENTIAL.
HOME ON TOP OF IT YO YOU WD.
MAY. WHETHER IT'' S NOTICEABLE OR NOT, A.
BARRIER BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND.
INDUSTRIAL TODAY THIS WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY DIGITAL IN THIS LOCATION. THAT HAVE ALLOWED THIRD EVENT IN.
THE PAST. ONCE MORE, IT ENDS UP IN THIS INSTANCE.
COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST, WHEN.
ONCE AGAIN, ANY SIGNS WOULD BE UNTOUCHABLE FOR DIGITAL.
SIGNBOARD REGARDLESS IF THEY'' RE. IF RESIDENTIAL IS MUCH AWAY FROM, SEEN OR NOT AS WELL AS REGARDLESS.
THIS ENTERPRISE ZONE. IN ENHANCEMENT, IN THE TARGET MARKET AS WELL WE HAVE A LIGHTS ENGINEER.
FROM STANTEC WHO IS RIGHT HERE, WILL.
SAY A FEW WORDS AND ALSO PROGRAMS COUNCIL THAT THE LIGHT ACTORS FROM THESE.
SIGNS IS NOT An ELEMENT AND IS.
WHEN YOU CONTRAST IT TO 0, LESSER RANGE OF A FACTOR AT ALL WHE.
METRES. WHY IS THIS REGULATION PROPOSED AND ALSO WHY IN THIS KIND? EXISTING OF PROPOSED RULES TO.
WHICH WE DO NOT OBJECT, THE EXISTING REGULATIONS TODAY WHICH.
PROTECT RESIDENTIAL, AS WELL AS THE.
PROPOSED POLICIES WHICH A VARIETY OF THEM WE HAVE ALREADY ACCEPTED.
ARE GREATER THAN ENOUGH TO.
ADDRESS ANY PERCEIVED EFFECTS OF THESE SIGNS ON RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
OR HOME DEVICES. WHAWHAT THAT I IS WHAT THE GROWTH PERMIT PROCESS IS.
FOR. WHY TAKE THIS AWAY FROM THE MARKET THUS? THE THIRD REGULATION, THE 14 METRE.
TROUBLE AS MENTIONED …
AS MENTIONED TODAY, THE 6 METRES.
IS A SETBACK COMMON TODAY FROM.
A BUILDING LINE. ALREADY THERE'' S ALREADY A.
BUFFER BARRIER US OFF THE ROADWAYHIGHWAY
FOR EXISTING BILLBOARDS. THEY'' RE PROPOSING TO BOOST. THAT TO 14 METRES. IF WE WANT TO HAVE IT LESS GO TO THE CHARM, as well as THEY STATED.
BOARD IS KIND OF THE SOLUTION BACK.
TO US. THE DIFFICULTY WITH THE 14.
METRES, IS A VARIETY OF MATTERS. ALL OF An ABRUPT THE INDICATION– YOU if YOU GO THAT FAR PROBLEM.
BEGIN QUESTIONING THE VISIBLITY.
OF THE INDICATOR. WHETHER IT'' S ALSO EFFECTIVE WITH.
VARIOUS OTHER STRUCTURES AND ALSO TREES.
[Please Wait] VERY HARMFUL TO OUR COMPANY. THE EXISTING AS WELL AS PROPOSED RULES.
WHICH WE DO NOT CHALLENGE ARE EVEN MORE THAN ADEQUATE TO ADDRESS.
ANY PERCEIVED IMPACT OF THESE.
SIGNS.THE SITUATION BY
CASE EXAMINATION OF.
THE EFFECT OF THE INDICATION IS WHAT.
THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS FOR. ONCE AGAIN, WHY TAKE THIS AWAY FROM.
United States? THANK YOU. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU, SIR AS WELL AS I OUGHT TO ALERT YOU.
THAT YOU'' VE TAKEN TEN OF THE FIFTEEN ALLOTTED MINUTES THERE. BUT I'' LL STOP THE TIMER FOR A.
SECOND AND ALSO RECOGNIZE ALDERMAN DEMONG.
>> >'> I ' M HAPPY TO PRESENT OUR.
MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT COLLEGE COURSE FOR TODAY. THEY ARE 23 GRADE 5 AS WELL AS 6.
PUPILS FROM ROYAL PRINCE OF WALES COLLEGE IN PARK ACCOMPANIED.
BY THEIR TEACHER JENNIFER.
ENGLAND. THEIR FOCUS FOR THIS WEEK WILL.
BE HOW DO OUR PAST AND PROVIDES.
IMPACT OUR FUTURE? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND TO BE.
ACKNOWLEDGED.
[APPLAUSE] AND ALSO JUST TO ALLOW YOU ALL KNOW,.
YOU'' RE NOW ON T.V. > >
>> MANY THANKS, ALL AND I'' M LOOKING ONWARD TO SEEING YOU IN MY.
OFFICE LATER THIS WEEK. ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CONTINUE.
>> > > GREETINGS. MY NAME IS NICOLET AA McDONALD.
AND ALSO I'' M THE SUPERVISORS OF BUSINESS AT PATIS OUTDOOR MARKETING. I'' M HERE TO SPEAK TO THE TEN
.
THAT ADVERTISEMENT APPEARS ON THE.
DISPLAY. CURRENTLY THE ADS CHANGE EVERY 6.
SECONDS. THE PLANNERS DID ACTUALLY DISCUSS THIS CONCERN WITH MARKET.
THEY WERE DETERMINED THAT THE.
REFRESH PRICE BE 10 SECS. WE'' RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY SO.
REPAIRED ON THIS RATE. IN THE U.S. 40 ONLY TENUOUS THE FOUR SECOND REFRESH PRICE AS WELL AS THE.
REST USE BETWEEN EIGHT AND ALSO 10.
SECONDS. IN CANADA ALL MARKETS USE TEN.
SECONDS AS WELL AS EDMONTON HAVE.
APPROVED 6 SECONDS.THE TEN BELOW PAR WHICH THE. PLANNERS WANT IS NOT MARKET.
HALIFAX. THE 6 SECOND-RATE ENABLES.
PATTISON TO ALLOW ONE SECONDLY PER.
MINUTE TO NON-PROFIT CHARITIES FREE OF FEE. MEANS, UNITED WAY, GLENBOW GALLERY, A SELECTION OF CALGARY ARTISTS ARE.
ARE SIMPLY A FEW THAT HAVE SBEFTED.
FROM OUR DAMAGES TALL PANELS. SIMPLY THIS PAST CHRISTMAS THEY.
INCLUDED SAMARITAN'' S HANDBAG TO.
ASSIST WITH THE CHOLERA OUTFWLAEK HAITI OVER THE VACATIONS. THAT WAS AN INSTANT SITUATION.
THAT WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO REACT TO BECAUSE OF THE.
DIGITAL BILLBOARDS AS WELL AS OUR.
DEDICATION TO PRESERVE ONE SPOT TO PSA. , if THE REFRESH PRICE IS COMPETED TO.
.
WHERE THE COORDINATORS WANT IT AT 10 SECONDS THIS MOMENT OF PROGRAM.
BECOMES FINANCIALLY CHALLENGING.
TO OFFER.NROZ COMPELLING
REASON TO MODIFICATION. THE REFRESH PRICE FROM THE. INDUSTRY CRITERIA OF 6 SECONDS AS WELL AS MARKET ASKED ASKS THE. COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE REFRESH. PRICE OF 6 SECS AS WELL AS DECLINE THE 10 SECOND REFRESH PRICE REQUESTED. BY THE PLANNERS.
THANKS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK. YOU. WE ' VE GOT ONE
MORE, I'BELIEVE? > > EXCUSE ME? >> > > Mayor Naheed>> Nenshi: I JUST.
CLAIMED WE'' VE GOT ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL? >> > > YOUR WORSHIP AND ALSO COUNCIL MY.
NAME IS BRUCE NELLIGAN, THE.
SUPERVISOR OF PRESIDENT AT V WATT CONSULTING.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: CONTAINER. > > WE DO HAVE SIGNS THAT ARE LIT.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: AS WELL AS,. > > NEXT SPEAKER.
> > THANK YOU VERY MUCH.WE'' VE BEEN FUNCTIONING WITH THE INDUSTRY OVER THE PAST MONTHS.I ' VE
RIGHT HERE TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK YOU. THERE'' S FOUR. >> >'I ' M SHAHEEN, A LIGHTING DESIGNER.
I HAVE DONE A RESEARCH FOR AMONG THE EXISTING DIGITAL GLOBES AT 9th Method As Well As fifth Road AND ALSO I ' LL BE HAPPY TO RESPONSE NIL QUESTIONS. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK YOU EXTREMELY MUCH. WE WILL MOST LIKELY TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, THEN FOR ANY/OR EVERY ONE OF YOU. YOU CAN RETURN ALSO IF YOU DESIRED Mr. FORSYTH. ALDERMAN LOWE?
>> >
> WELL, Mr.BRDSLY WERE YOU STILL GOING TO PRESIDE ALSO? I'' M UNCLEAR.
>> > > I JUST HAD THE RECAP. AS OPPOSED TO STATING ANYTHING I.
MARVEL IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TO.
PLACE IT UP ON THE EXPENSES. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: YOU.
COULD SAY IT. COUNCIL ' S TIME.
> > THIS IS JUST THE RECAP,. PARAGRAPH 1 IS WHAT THE SECTOR WOULD LIKE SEE TRANSFORMED AND ALSO THE. TALL SIZED SECTIONS ARE SIMPLY.
THE FACTORS FOR IF. YOU'' VE HEARD ALL THESE BEFORE.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ARE. THEMES THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE.
DISCUSSION THAT WAS HANDED O OUT–.
>> > > FAIRLY WELL EXCEPT THERE'' S. 2 ADDITIONAL ONES TO THIS. WHEN WE OFFERED THE DISCUSSION.
PRODUCTS OUT, WE DIDN'' T REALIZE. THE CSRI STRICT WAS IN THAT BUNCH SO WE HAD TO ADD THAT. THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT'' S. DIFFERENT IS I BELIEVE WE HAD A BETTER CHECK OUT THE 300m.
SPLITTING UP FOR DIGITAL SIGNS,. INDICATING THE ELECTRONIC ESIGN COURSES WHICH IS THE ON PREMISES. INDICATOR, TO A BILLBOARD. WHICH WE HAVE INVOLVE CONCLUDE IS A POINT THAT WE.
WOULD LOVE TO SEE STUDIED MORE.
WHICH'' S BEEN ADDED.FOR COUNCIL'' S INFO, REALLY,.
REALLY PROMPTLY, THE EXISTING. GUIDELINES FOR 3RD PARTY INDICATORS PUT ON ' T HAVE
ANY SPLITTING UP. FROM THESE KINDS OF SIGNS. BUT THERE IS A 30m Splitting Up FROM AN IDENT INDICATION. THE SUGGESTION STAFF MAKING.
THAT THERE BE A 300m SEPARATION IN BETWEEN A DIGITAL BILLBOARD AND.
TEMPTCLASS SIGN AND ALSO THAT'' S. SOMETHING WE THINK REQUIRES A LITTLE MORE FUNCTION SO THAT'' S BEEN. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU. ALL RIGHT, CONCERNS FOR THIS.
> > THANK YOU. FOR WHOMEVER I GUESS, WE DEMAND.
THE CROWD UP THERE …
Mr. REBE REBECCUS, LE BOIL BOARD THAT WAS.
IN YOUR ORIGINAL SCREEN, YOU.
YOUR– THE FIRST VIDEO YOU PUT UP ON THERE, HOW MUCH WAS THAT–.
WHAT WAS THE OBSTACLE OF THAT.
INDICATOR? >> > > SO I ' M GOING SURMISE HERE
. FROM MY RECOLLECTION, WE DON'' T. HAVE THE WEBSITE STRATEGY WITH US, IT'' S AN 80km/h Street, McKNIGHT
. BOULEVARD IN THIS LOCATION. THERE'' S AN EXTENSIVE TROUBLE ALREADY DUE TO THE STREET,.
McKNIGHT BLVD IS A GRASS.
BOULEVARD, UP TO THE FENCE. AND AFTERWARDS WE'' RE HOLD UP FROM THE
.
FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE WE ' RE ABOUT 3 TO 6m FROM THE BUILDING. IS MY RECOLLECTION.IN ENHANCEMENT TO THAT, THERE ' S A. TROUBLE OF THE YARD SBOFLD
. AND ALSO IF YOU INCLUDED THE
GRASS TURF BLVD BACK AND AS WELL AS WENT.
ANOTHER 14m, YOU WOULD REMAIN IN THE CENTER OF THE WHOLE LOT AS WELL AS THE SIGN.
WOULD BE VIRTUALLY INEFFECTIVE.
DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT'' S THUS FAR FROM THE ROADWAY WAY.
>> > > BUT THE PHOTO HE SHOULD.
REVEALED US TO YOUR RECOLLECTION, WHAT WAS WHATEVER THE BLVD.
WIDTH WAS AND ALSO 3 TO 6m–.
>> > > FROM THE FENCING, YEAH.
>> > > AS WELL AS THE SFED ON McKNIGHT.
BOULEVARD AT THAT POINT YOU STATE.
IS 80 SDMRIKS >> > > 80km/h, CORRE CORRECT.
>> > > I REQUIRED TO UNDERSTAND FROM.
WHOMEVER THE CONNECTION BETWEEN SPEED AND OBSTACLE FOR.
THIRD EVENT SIGNS. AND I'' M GOING BACK TO THE TABLE THAT WAS PUT UP BY.
TRANSPORTATION, WHICH SEEMINGLY,.
WAS REALLY RELATED TO if I COMPREHENDED THE PROOF CORRECTLY.
MY CAPABILITY TO RECOGNIZE A.
FREEWAY SIGN, TO READ IT, TO TAKE THE REHABILITATIVE ACTIVITY.
ESSENTIAL TO ABIDE WITH.
WHATEVER THAT SIGN MAY BE INSTRUCTING ME TO DO, INCLUDING.
SOME DECISION TIME AND ALSO IF I WANT.
TO LEAVE THE ROADWAY THEN, AS AN EXAMPLE. IS THERE A CORRESPONDING.
RESEARCH WITH RELATIONSHIP TO DIGITAL BILL–.
OBVIOUSLY YOU DESIRED THEM READ, SO.
THAT THERE'' S GOT TO BE SOMETHING IN
>> THERE. > > YURNGS THROUGH COUNCILLOR.
LOWE, THE PARTNERSHIP IN BETWEEN THE SPEED AND THE PLACEMENT OF.
THE INDICATORS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME.
OUT OF THE WORK THAT WE HAD BEEN DOING ON BEHALF OF THE.
ADVERTISING AND MARKETING MARKET AS WELL AS WORKING.
WITH THE CITY IN TRYING TO OBTAIN AUTHORIZATION OF CERTAIN INDICATIONS. THERE ISN'' T A GREAT DEAL OF STUDY. AROUND THAT SHOWS THAT IF An INDICATION IS PUT IN X VARIETY OF. NRERTS THE ROAD, THAT IT'' S. LESS SAFE OR– THERE REALLY ISN'' T A GREAT DEAL OF.
INFORMATION FOR ME AS AN. DESIGNER TO SAY WHETHER IT ' S APPRECIATE HARMFUL. THERE ' S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF RESEARCH. IT ' S ALL BEEN INCLUSIVE IN STIPULATIONS OF THE PARTNERSHIP ABOUT.
ADVERTISING SIGNS TO SECURITY. SO TO RESPOND TO THE CITY'' S REQUEST TO ACCOMPLISH A SECURITY RECORD ON.
A SPECIFIC INDICATOR, WE BEGAN.
TAKING A LOOK AT A FEW OF THE DESIGN TECHNIQUES THAT WE.
USE FOR THE PLACEMENT OF WEB TRAFFIC.
SIGNALS.SO WHEN WE LOOK AT
THE POSITIONING. OF WEBSITE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AMONG THE. THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT IS THE STOP WEBSITE RANGE, WHICH IS. PERTAINING TO SPEED SO THE FASTER.
YOU ' RE GOING, THE LONGER IT TAKES FOR YOU TO STOP. THE QUIT IN SIGHT DISTANCE AND ALSO THE RANGE THAT YOU SAW ON IN. CAME FROM WAS THE STOPPING VIEW RANGE WHICH TRANSFORMS AS.
SOMETHING THAT WE EXTRACTED FROM A VARIOUS APPLICATION. IT WASN ' T TO PERFORM WITH OUTDOOR–. YOU RECOGNIZE, THE OUTSIDE MARKETING INDICATIONS IN ITSELF, BUT IT. WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ATTEMPTED TO.
APPLY TO THIS SPECIFIC TOP TAKE SHOT TO AID United States IN. ESTABLISHING WHERE THE SIGN COULD.
BE PUT. > > DID YOU FIND THAT–.
WAS THE COMPARISON USEFUL? > > WELL, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE USED TO TAKE A LOOK AT> SPECIFIC. WEBSITES AND TO SAY WHETHER IT WAS. IN THE PRIMARY CONE OF VISION OR THE SECONDARY
CONE OF VISION. BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE. TAKEN A LOOK AT BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS
USEFUL IN–. YOU UNDERSTAND, IN ESTABLISHING THE.
PRECISE POSITIONING OF IT, IT ' S QUESTIONABLE. > > OKAY.
ROAD, ADMITTEDLY MARKETING IS TO OBTAIN MY ATTENTION TO READ THE. INDICATOR. AND I ' M WONDERING, DID YOU CHECK OUT ANY
RESEARCH STUDIES THAT'STATES THAT MY. CONCENTRATE ON MY PRIMARY FUNCTION IS. SIDETRACKED BY A BILLBOARD OVER RIGHT HERE, BE IT LIT OR OTHERWISE? > > THERE ' S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF. STUDY ON THE DRIVING>> MARKET AS WELL AS INDICATORS, BILLBOARDS AS WELL AS HOW IT. DISTRACTS DRIVERS. I THINK AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER, A GREAT DEAL OF IT IS INCLUSIVE IN. TYING BILLBOARDS TO SAFETY, ROAD. SAFETY AND SECURITY, AS WELL AS ACTUAL CRASHES.BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT.
I THINK THE MARKET AND ALSO THE.
STUDY CONCURS ON, IS THAT LOOK OF LONGER THAN TWO.
SECS COULD BE PROBLEMATIC IN. TERMS OF ROAD SAFETY PERSPECTI VIEWPOINT. HOWEVER, THERE HAS
BEEN STUDY. THAT HAS BEEN DONE THAT CLAIMS THAT, TYPICALLY, AN OUTDOOR.
MARKETING SIGN OR BILLBOARD. WILL CERTAINLY BRING IN A GLIMPSE OF ABOUT A FIFTY PERCENT A SECOND TO ONE SECONDLY.
SO THAT ' S THE SORT OF RESEARCH STUDY. THAT ' S BEEN DONE, WHICH ' S WHAT WE
' VE BEEN UTILIZING IN TERMS.'OF FUNCTIONING'WITH ADMINISTRATION.
> > CORRECT. > > O.K.. > > WITH REGARD TO THE AMBIENT.
LIGHTING PROBLEM, AND ALSO I'' M HARKE. HARKENING BACK TO– YOU'' LL REMEMBER WE HAD A PROBLEM UP IN.
SIMON'' S VALLEY WITH An INDICATION THAT. WAS BOTTOM-LIT THAT WAS PROBLEMATIC. IS THAT LIGHTING CONTROLLED AT.
ALL BESIDES OFF/ON? AND HOW DOES IT RELATE IN.
CONNECTION TO THE KIND OF LIGHT–.
AMBIENT LIGHTING THAT WOULD HAPPEN FROM A DIGITAL SIGNBOARD,.
WHICH REGULATES YOU'' RE PROPOSING.
ON IT? >> > > SORRY, FOR CLARIFICATION, SO.
THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THE INQUIRY.
IS REGARDING WHETHER– WHAT TYPE OF INFLUENCE– WHAT.
MODIFICATIONS THE LIGHTS CONTAINER DO FOR.
DIGITAL, HOW IT'' S ALTERED? >> > > NO, MY INQUIRY IS IF–.
I'' M USING THAT– I DON'' T KNOW. IF YOU REMEMBER THE ONE WE BROUGHT UP IN SIMON'' S VALLEY, OVERLOOKED.
SAGE HILLSIDE THERE. YOU UNDERSTAND, THAT WAS– IN THE EVENING IT WAS JUST A GLARING.
INTENSE LIGHT. WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THE ELECTRONIC INDICATIONS, YOU TIN READJUST THAT DOWN,.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> > > THAT IS CORRECT AS WELL AS I DO HAVE OUR ILLUMINATION EXPERT TO.
SOLUTION AS TO WHAT KIND OF–.
>> > > HOW DO WE ACTION THE FACTOR AT WHICH ANY LIGHT IS WAY TOO MUCH?
>> > > WELL, SO WHAT THEY'' VE DONE–. ACTUALLY THAT ' S AN EARLIER QUESTION, SOMEONE ASKED THE. DIFFERENCE OF ILLUMINATION BETWEEN.
EXISTINGING BILLBOARDS TODAY AND ALSO DIGITAL. TODAY FOR CRITERION BILLBOARDS.
WHICH USAGE LIGHTING THAT CAN BE USED AT THE END OF THE INDICATIONS,.
RADIATING UPWARDS OR THE TOP OF.
THE INDICATOR SHINING DOWNWARD, THAT'' S PHYSICAL LIGHT ONTO THE
. INDICATOR SURFACE AREA OF A PAPER, VINE I.
WILL WILL CERTAINLY ' S ALWAYS BEEN ACCEPTED.
LIGHTING MANAGES ON THOSE EXISTING
SIGNS. WITH DIGITAL BILLBOARDS, ALL OF US. RECOGNIZE THAT THE MARKET, THE CITY, MANUFACTURERS RECOGNIZE,. YES, THESE SIGNS ARE–.
TEND TO BE MORE INTENSE SO WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID WAS THEY. SPOKE TO MANUFACTURERS,.
ELECTRONIC DEVICES IN SPECIFIC AND ALSO
CAME UP WITH A LEVEL TO STEP THE. SIGN OUTPUT SO IT DOES
NOT. SURPASS A CERTAIN QUANTITY– IN THIS SITUATION IN THE BYLAW, IT'' S 500. KNITS IN THE EVENING AND ALSO TEN TIMES. THAT DURING THE DAY OF 5,000 KNITS. HOW IT'' S MEASURED IS ACTUALLY. THERE IS A WEAPON CALLED A KNIT GUN.
>> > > WHAT A NIT
>>.'> > I ' M GOING TO REFER'THAT ON–. I ' LL
SURFACE THE QUESTION AND ALSO. REFER TO OUR ILLUMINATION PROFESSIONAL SO ENTER THE SPECIFICS OF.
THAT BUT UNLIKE CRITERION.
BILLBOARDS, THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME– AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT.
AS A RESULT OF INNOVATION, THERE IS.
LIGHTING LEVELS IN PLACE.AND EVEN BEFORE
THESE GUIDELINES WERE. REVIEWED OR PASSED, OUR SIGNS. HAVE ALREADY BEEN POSITIONED WITH THE PEEL BOARD ADS I STATED. EARLIER AND ALSO IT WAS DONE.
INDIVIDUALLY, THEY GAUGED THE SIGNS AND ALSO IN REALITY OUR SIGNS WILL.
HAVE ALREADY NEIL THOSE.
STANDARDS EVEN BEFORE WE BEGAN DETERMINING THEM. SO THE DIGITAL BILL DISORDERS.
BOARDS YOU SEE MEET THOSE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN COUNCIL.
BEFORE YOU TODAY AND AS YOU CONTAINER.
SEE IN OUR ARGUMENTS, THIS IS NOT BROUGHT UP TODAY, WE'' RE
NOT. INTERESTED IN THE LIGHTS.
DEGREES AS BROUGHT FORTH BY PAD EMERGENCIES. THAT WENT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY GIVEN THAT.
WE FIRST BEGAN NEGOTIATIONS BUT WE FELT IT WAS A NECESSARY.
CONCESSION AND WE APPROVED THE.
TRUTH THAT THE LEVELS WERE REDUCED. AND I'' LL DESCRIBE–>>. > > SORRY, PRIOR TO YOU GO AS WELL AS MAYBE YOUR LIGHTS EXPERT CANISTER.
TELL ME THIS BUT WHAT'' S
THE. EFFECT OF– I GUESS I REQUIRED TO KNOW WHAT A NIT IS BUT WHAT'' S. THE RESULT OF THE LOWERED.
LIGHTS AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM 100m, 150m, 200m, 300m, SUPPOS.
ALLEGEDLY RIGHT INTO A RESIDENTIAL.
LOCATION? DOES THAT AMOUNT OF LIGHT–.
AT WHAT FACTOR DOES IT END UP BEING.
UNDISCERNABLE? >> > >'IT ' S SUBSTANTIAL AND YEAH,.
THE INQUIRY YOU'' RE ASKING IS. WHERE DOES THE AMBIENT LIGHT KIND OF SWALLOW UP THE SIGN
.
CONTEXT VERSUS RURAL, FREEWAY.
CONTEXT WHICH IS WHERE SIGNS HAVE LITTLE AMBIENT LIGHTING TO.
TAKE ON OUT THERE. IT DOES DROP SUBSTANTIALLY AND I'' VE GOT SOME NUMBERS BELOW.
FROM OUR ILLUMINATION SPECIALIST TO.
OFFER United States GIVE YOU AN CONCEPT OF HOW MUCH THEY DECLINE DOWN AND ALSO WHAT.
LEVEL IS PROBABLY A GOOD.
MEASUREMENT LEVEL FOR An INDICATION TO STEP AT.
>> > > MAYBE I COULD ASK YOU, SIMPLY.
FOR MY ASSISTANCE, TELL ME WHAT A NIT IS. OFFER ME SOMETHING–.
THE NUMBER OF NITS HAVE WE GOT IN RIGHT HERE CURRENTLY?
>> > > A NIT IS A CANDLE PER METERS.
SQUARE F YOU'' RE LOOKING AT ANY LIGHT SETUP OR MAYBE.
EVEN LIKE FROM SOMETHING–.
IF YOU'' RE LOOKING AT ANY LIGHT, THE LIGHT UPCOMING FROM THAT. SOURCE IS THE ILLUMINATION. > > SO– AND ALSO AGAIN FOR ME–.
I'' M SORRY, YOUR PRAYER, FOR ME. TO TRY TO PUT IT IN VIEWPOINT, ENOUGH LIGHT FROM A FLASHLIGHT.
FOR A METER FOR ME TO READ A.
PAGE IN A 12 TYPEFACE, HOW LOTS NITS WOULD I REQUIRED TO PERFORM THAT?
>> > > THERE ARE 2 THINGS. ONE IS BRIGHT NELLS AS WELL AS THE OTHER IS FOOT CANDLE LIGHT LEVELS SO.
WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING–.
LIKE, WHEN YOU WISHED TO READ SOMETHING, YOU WOULD DEMAND.
SOMETHING THAT'' S REFLECTIVE FROM.
THE READING PRODUCT TO ENSURE THAT WOULD BE–.
THAT IS MEASURED IN–.
, if YOU DESIRED TO READ SOMETHING AT EVENING AND ALSO THE LIGHTING LEVEL.
.
DEPENDS UPON THE PERSON, WHETH.
WHETHER– WE HAVE TO ENSURE THEY CANISTER READ.
TEN TIMES MUCH LESS LIGHT THAN I TIN,.
AND AS WE AGE WE DEMAND EVEN MORE LIGHT SO IT''
S–. IT DIFFERS. IN GENERAL, IF YOU DESIRED TO READ SOMETHING, 200 OR 250 LUX.
NEED TO BE EXCELLENT ENOUGH.
>> > > I JUST HAVE TO MENTION THAT ALDERMAN PINCOTT IS DYING TO. RESPONSE THIS QUESTION. MAYBE WE– REALLY? DO YOU INTEND TO ADD SOMETHING? DO YOU MIND, ALDERMAN LOWE? >> > > I SIMPLY–
. HOW LOTS NITS IN MY LAPTOP COMPUTER RIGHT HERE?
>> > > PERMIT ME TO SIMPLY HELP.NITS IS A METHOD OF MEASURING. ILLUMINATION, SO PERCEIVED BRIGHT. NELLS. SO YOU GAUGE A NIT BY LOOKING. AT THE SOURCE. > > I OBTAINED THAT.
> > YOU MEASURE
>> INTENSITY IN >> A. DIFFERENT DIMENSION BY WHAT ' S. DOWN HERE SO YOU CANISTER HAVE'A REALLY BRILLIANT– REALLY INTENSE RESOURCE IN. THE EDGE OF THAT ROOM WHICH.
WOULD BE HIGH NITS BUT BELOW WOULD BE LOW FOOT CANDLE LIGHTS. IN THIS AREA WE WOULD HAVE. REASONABLY LOW NITS BY HIGH FOOT CANDLES SO NITS IS PERCEIVED. BRIGHTNESS, WHICH WE ACTION.
DOWN RIGHT HERE IS LIGHT I INTENSITY, SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. WHICH SHE TRANSCRIBED TRIED TO.
DESCRIBE AROUND FOOT CANDLES SO IT ' S TWO VARIOUS THINGS THAT. YOU ' RE MEASURING.
THE'BRIGHTNESS– BRIGHTNESS WHICH IS–.
ILLUMINATION, WILLS THE RESOURCE–.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: AND ALSO FIY, FOR THOSE IN THE GALLERY IF.
YOU'' RE WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
EXCHANGE ALDERMAN PINCOTT IN HIS PREVIOUS LIFE WAS An EXTREMELY WELL.
RENOWNED AND MULTIPLE.
PRIZE-WINNING LIGHTING DESIGNER SO HE HAS SOME KNOW-HOW IN THIS.
AREA BUT–.
WOW! ALDERMAN LOWE?
>> > > O.K.,'I ' M–. I THINK I AM WHERE I REQUIRED TO BE, THANK YOU QUITE.
>> PROCEED. > > I ADDITIONALLY HAVE 35 RECORDS, IF– WITH YOUR APPROVAL IF IT COULD.
BE DISTRIBUTED. POSSIBLY THAT WOULD MAKE POINTS LESS COMPLEX.
>> > > THAT ' S FINE, THANK YOU.
>> > > MANY THANKS SIGNIFICANTLY.
>> > > MY LAST CONCERN HAS TO DO.
WITH THE CONE THAT WE SEE BEING.
UTILIZED NO MATTER TOP GRAVE. YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE–.
I ASSUME BARLOW ROUTE, YOUR.
EXAMPLE OF BARLOW PATH IS IS An ACTUALLY EXCELLENT ONE WHERE THE INDICATORS.
ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
THE RESIDENTIAL IS ON THE WEST SIDE, BUT SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW.
THE ROAD. SO– BUT IF I PUNS THE PROPOSITION CORRECTLY, BECAUSE WITHIN 300m.
IT WOULD NOT MAY TODAY. DO I COMPREHEND THAT– IS THAT THE NUX OF YOUR ISSUE.
WITH THAT?
>> > > THAT ' S PRECISELY CORRECT. IT IS An OBSTACLE FOR US TO.
ACTION IN SOME Area 300m.
AS WELL AS IF THERE'' S A STRUCTURE UNIT WOULD BE PROHIBITED SO BLACKFOOT.
PATH, MACLEOD ROUTE, THOSE KIND.
OF ROADWAYS WOULD BE PROHIBITED.
>> > > NOW, IF THE–.
IT APPEARED TO ASSUME–.
AND IT SEEMED TO THINK TO ME THAT THEY WERE THINKING THAT ALL.
SIGNS WERE PLACED AT.
ANGLES TO THE HIGHWAY. IT'' S MY EXPERIENCE THAT VERY FEW.
ARE, IN FACTOR OF TRUTH. YOU TEND TO ANGLE YOUR INDICATIONS TO ENSURE THAT ONCOMING WEBSITE TRAFFIC CONTENDS.
THAT– YOUR ADVERTISER HAS A.
CHANCE IN THE ONCOMING WEB TRAFFIC, I'' LL PUT IT IN THIS WAY. SO EXISTS ANY STIPULATION WITHIN.
THE LAW AS YOU READ IT TO CUT OFF THAT ARC LIMITING IT TO THE.
ROAD, PARTICULARLY IN WHICH YOU.
HAVE A TOPOGRAPHICAL FUNCTION THAT DROPS AWAY, OR CONVERSELY A.
CLIMB?
>> > > NO, AND ALSO THAT'' S WHY WE'MADE IT A STRONG CASE AND ALSO WHY WE ' RE BELOW.
TODAY IN CON TIG SIR LIKE THIS. AS A RESULT OF THAT SORT OF GUIDELINE. THE DIFFICULTY IS TWOFOLD.
ONE, THERE IS NO CONTINGENCY FOR. POPPOGRAPHY, BUILDING, TREES IN FRONT, ANY TYPE OF BUFFER. IN BETWEEN THE INDICATION AND 300m IS.
TAKEN OUT OF THE EQUATION.AND SECONDLY,
IT'' S NOT RELAXABLE. DOUBLE WHAIM FOR THE MARKET.
— WHAT AMY FOR THE INDUSTRY.
>> > > I THINK I FIRST MET YOU WHILE.
I WAS ON DA RECOMMENDATION I UNDERSTAND CONCERNING RELAXABLE. MY LAST QUESTION IS IN YOUR.
POSITIONING OF YOUR PRESENT SIGNS, YOUR REQUIREMENT INDICATORS, THE SPEED.
OF THE ROAD A CONSIDERATION.
IN ALL? >> > > NO, THE LAW TODAY HAS NO.
ADDRESS–.
DOES NOT ADDRESS– THERE'' S NO CONCERN WHETHER THE.
RATE LIMITATION IS 50, 60, 70 OR 80.
KILOMETRES. TODAY THEY HAVE PROBLEMS, ZONING.
AND ALSO AS THEY DID IN EDMONTON,.
THEY SIMPLY INCLUDED DIGITAL BILLBOARDS TO THE EXISTING RULES.
AND SAY WHERE BILLBOARDS EXIST.
TODAY, DIGITAL IS PENALTY TOO, SIMPLY 2 PROVISIONS PLEASE, NO VIDEO.
OR MOVEMENT AND ALSO CONTROL THE.
LIGHTING AS WELL AS WE'' RE HAPPY. HERE THEY ' VE TAKEN IT BEYOND.
THAT AND THEY'' VE LIMITED.
PARTICULAR ZONINGS, THEY HAVE A HUGE SEPARATION, ET CETERA SO IT.
IS QUITE DIFFERENT.
>> >
> OKAY.THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU SIGNIFICANTLY, ALDERMAN LOWE. I'' M GOING TO REFRAIN–.
THE WORD PLAY HERES WRITE THEMSELVES. ALDERMAN JONES? >> > > Mr. RUBECUS IN REFERRAL.
NUMBER 2, 150m FROM A DWELLING.
URNGTS YOU DON'' T REALLY ADDRESS WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE CONCERNING THE.
RANGE. IS IT THAT YOU MIGHT BE NEAR TO A RESORT, IS THAT CLASS THE AS A.
HOME UNIT ON A MAJOR ROADWAY? IS IT A PROBLEM THAT THE RESIDENCE UNIT MAY BE BEHIND.
YOU AND ALSO THE SIGN REMAINS IN FRONT AND ALSO.
IT'' S NOT RADIATING BACK THERE, SO THAT THE PROBLEM OR–.
>> > > COMPONENT OF IT, YES. THE WORRY IS– AS WELL AS TO CLEAR UP THE 300m FROM A RESIDENCE DEVICE.
AND 150m FROM A HOUSE SYSTEM.
COINCIDE. IT'' S JUST THE CONTEXT, IN WHICH. THE 150m RULE THAT YOU REFERRED.
TO, THROUGH THE CHAIR, WITH THE MAYOR IS FOR THE DOWNTOWN.
CORE. AS WELL AS OUR WORRY FOR THAT IS, NATURALLY, THE CORE IS GREATLY.
ESTABLISHED AND TO PUT A JOIN.
ON A WALL SURFACE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE SIMPLY OBTAINED APPROVAL TO PUT UP An INDICATOR.
AGAINST THE INTERNATIONAL HOTEL,.
UP VERSUS THE WALL OF THE STRUCTURE BUT IF IT'' S A. RESIDENTIAL NEXT DOOR DO THAT.
STRUCTURE, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE INTERNATIONAL HOTEL REMAINS IN.
BETWEEN THE INDICATOR AND THE APARTMENT,.
IT WOULD BE– IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BASED ON.
THE GUIDELINES TODAY IS THE 150m, OUR.
PROBLEM IS THERE COULD BE– MAYBE DEVELOPED, THE INDICATOR.
MAY NOTTEN VISIBLE WHATSOEVER IN.
THE CORE SINCE IT'' S SO HEAVILY CONCENTRATED DEVELOPMENT WISE. OUTSIDE THE CORE IS THE 300m.
RULE FROM A HOUSE UNIT.SO THAT RULE IS COMPONENT AND ALSO PARCEL. TOGETHER, An AND B WITH EACH OTHER, IF. YOU WILL AND ALSO BOTH REGULATIONS ARE NOT RELAXABLE. > > SO HENCE THE IMAGE THAT>> YOU. SHOWED EARLIER ON MACLEOD TRAIL WHERE IT SHOWED DEVICES WITHIN THE. 300m Hold Up BUT WHICH WOULDN ' T. HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE THE INDICATION IF– NO ISSUE HOW YOU TRIED
, EVEN IF. YOU DEPENDED ON THE ROOFING? > > CORRECT, BECAUSE OUR SIGNS– ONCE AGAIN–. SORRY
>>, NOT AGAIN BUT IN TODAY ' S. RULES OUR HEIGHT IS OPTIMUM ALLOWED 26 FEET SO WE ' RE NOT. EVEN ALLOWED TO GO AS HIGH AS A. SECOND TALE BUILDING.THEY CANISTER NOT BE MORE THAN.
OPTIMUM 26 FEET SO THEREFORE. OF THAT YOU GO DOWN MACLEOD PATH, 16th Opportunity, YOU PUT A. COMMERCIAL BUILDING BETWEEN OUR. INDICATION AND RESIDENTIAL, OUR INDICATOR IS
NOT VISIBLE. > > I DISCOVERED HERE IN YOUR 4. RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU HAVE YOU ' RE ASKING> INDUSTRY– OR.
YOU ' RE ASKING United States NOT TO TAKE ON. THESE BUT YOU ' RE NOT OFFERING United States AN CHOICE OF WHAT YOU NEED.
TAKEN ON– OR AT LEAST I HAVEN ' T. SEEN IT LOOKING THROUGH THIS PUBLICATION. > > SORRY, BEST WAY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
> > SORRY, I TIN ' T SEE
THAT. > > IT ' S SIMPLY NOT JUST ADOPT,.
THERE ' S FOUR ZONINGS TODAY,.
C-CORD 1, C-CHORD 1, SCI AND INDUSTRIAL SIDE, THE BILLBOARDS. ALLOWED TODAY IN THOSE AREAS.
WE ' RE ASKING FOR THEM TO
BE'DELETED FROM THE LAW. RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU TODAY. AND AFTER THAT THE REST OF THE GUIDELINES–. THAT ' S AN EXAMPLE OF'ONE SO. WE ' RE ASKING FOR DELETE. THE SECOND RULE, Once Again 300m,.
Due To The Fact That 300m, 150m SEPARATION,.
THAT'' S THE SECOND REGULATION,'WE ' RE ASKING THAT TO BE DELEAD,.
NOT-FOR-PROFIT EMBRACED BUT TO BE.
DELETED FOR THE REASONS GIVE UP THE RECORD AND AS MENTIONED, THE.
SEPARATION–.
THIS IS OUR– THE SPLITTINGS UP ARE CRITICAL AND ALSO.
INFLUENCE OUR INDICATOR SECTOR. THE 3RD GUIDELINE WE'' RE ASKING IS TO ALTER FROM 10 SEC TO 6.
SECONDS. THE FOURTH RULE IS ANOTHER REMOVAL, THE 300m splitting up.
FROM DIGITAL TO ELECTRONIC INDICATION. AGAIN TO DELETE.AND AGAIN–
.
AND ALSO THE LAST POLICY IS THE 14m.
OBSTACLE, ONCE AGAIN TO REMOVE. THERE'' S ALSO PROVISION IN THE.
LAW FOR 6m SETBACK TO WE'' RE. ASKING IT TO BE DELETED FROM 14 TO 6 SO IT'' S MAINLY DELETIONS.
AS WELL AS ONE ALTER FROM 10 SECS.
TO 6 SECONDS. THE OTHER FOUR ARE STRAIGHT.
DELETIONS.
>> > > OKAY. I HAVE ONE INQUIRY FOR YOUR.
LIGHTING PERSON. AND IT WAS A CONCERN BASED ON WHAT ALDERMAN LOWE HAD ASKED. THERE HAS BEEN RESEARCHES DONE IN.
CONCERNS TO LIGHT AS WELL AS SIGNAGE.
> > SO I ' M GOING SURMISE HERE
. > > THERE ' S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF. > > THAT ' S PRECISELY CORRECT. > > SORRY, I TIN ' T SEE
THAT. > > IT ' S SIMPLY NOT SIMPLY TAKE ON,.HAS THERE BEEN ANY CORRELATION
BETWEEN ACCIDENTS AND ALSO CARS OR–
>> > > ACTUALLY, THERE ARE– THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT IS REALLY
SUBJECTIVE, TO BE REALLY FRANK. THERE ARE NUMEROUS STANDARDS AVAILABLE BASED ON ELIMINATION
ENGINEERING CULTURE OF NORTH
AMERICA SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE DONE A RESEARCH OF THE
EXISTING DIGITAL BOARD WHICH ARE
FROM PATTISON WHICH IS LOCATED BETWEEN 9th Method AND 5th
ROAD. I CAN SHOW YOU– THIS IS FOR BASICALLY THE MAJORITY OF
THE QUESTION HAS BEEN AS
CONCERNING THIS.JUST TO UNDERSTAND THE INTENSITY OF LIGHT COMING OUT OF THE LED, THE DIGITAL BOARD, IF YOU'' RE STANDING STRAIGHT, PERPENDICULAR TO THE BILLBOARD, THAT'' S IN WHICH YOU WILL EXPERIENCE MAXIMUM OF LIGHT. AS YOU GO FAR OFF … IT BECOMES LESSER AND LESSER. IF YOU ARE AT LIKE 70 ° FROM THE EDGE OF THE DIGITAL SIGNS, YOU ARE NEARLY– LIKE THE LIGHTING DEGREE REDUCES NEARLY TO ZERO SO IF YOU'' RE'MUCH OUT THERE ' S NOTHING VISIBLE. THE DISTANCE HOW FAR YOU ARE FROM THE BOARDS SO WE DID RESEARCH STUDY– WE ACTUALLY PLOTTED 100 FEET DISTANCE FOR EACH OF THESE ANGLES, AS I REVEALED YOU BEFORE. LIKE 30 °, 70 °,
90 ° AND AFTERWARDS 140 °. AND AT EVERY 100 FEET WE DID A. DIMENSION. TWO COLLECTIONS OF DIMENSIONS FOR NIT.
METERS, THAT'' S THE BRIGHTNESS. DIMENSION, AND THE VARIOUS OTHER ONE IS THE ILLUMINATION DEGREE. DIMENSION. AND WE DID TWO COLLECTIONS OF READINGS.ONE IS DAYTIME AND ALSO AT EVENING. BALLS THE LIGHTING LEVEL
DIFFERS. AT THE TWO TIMES.
I WILL BE SHOWING YOU TWO.
TABLES, WHEREIN WHICH TOOK THE.
MEASUREMENT– THE TABLE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE IS.
THE LUX METER READING. AND THIS TABLE REVEALS THE NIT METER ANALYSIS. NOW, IN THIS SPECIFIC TABLE,.
AS YOU CAN SEE, AT NIGHTTIME, AT NONE OF THE POINTS THE NIT METER.
READING IS SURPASSING 500 NITS.
WHICH IS NOT THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION IN BETWEEN SO–.
THIS IS THE LIGHTS TRESPASS.
RECOMMENDATION THAT'' S AVAILABLE SO EACH OF THE AREA CANISTER BE
. SPLIT INTO DIFFERENT AREAS. THE EXISTING LIGHTS RESEARCH THAT WE DID, WE BASED IT ON AM BENT.
LIGHT BRIGHTNESS–.
AMBIENT LIGHT BRIGHTNESS.THAT ' S ZONE 3. SO WHAT THE COMMON SAYS IS.
WHATEVER THE AMBIENT LIGHTING IS–.
FOR INSTANCE, IF THE AMBIENT.
LIGHTS DEGREE IS ONE FOOT CANDLE LIGHT, THE MIXED LIGHTS.
WITH THE DIGITAL SIGNS CONTAINER NOT.
EXCEED 1.8 FOOT CANDLE LIGHTS. .8, WHAT YOU SEE IS THE.
ENABLED TRESPASS. WHAT WE WRAPPED UP LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT ANALYSES, THE.
ILLUMINATION LEVEL WAS NEVER BEYOND.
THE RECOMMENDED AMBIENT DEGREE. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
>> > > I WAS GOING TO SAY–. TO SOLUTION MY QUESTION, IS THAT A YES OR A NO? EXISTS ANY EXAMINES BEEN DONE. THAT– I GUESS THE CONCERN WAS EXISTS ANY RESEARCHES THAT IS.
THERE BEEN SPENT RELATION TO. LIGHT, DIGITAL LIGHT
>> SIGNS AND ALSO AUTO CRASHES? > > THERE ARE VARIOUS STUDIES,. NOT FROM ONE BUT VARIOUS DIFFERENT ASSOCIATIONS HAVE DO. DONE. IN GENERAL WHEN YOU COMPAR COMPARE–. LIKE BETWEEN CONVENTIONAL AS WELL AS. THE DIGITAL OR SIMPLY THE DIGITAL? >> > > I'PRESUME WHAT I ' M SEARCHING.
FOR IS IF SOMEONE IS EXPRESSION. DUE TO THE FACT THAT OF
DRIVER SAFETY SAFETY AND SECURITY AND ALSO SE, that WE NEED A SETBACK. PROBLEM–. THE FARTHER OBSTACLE IS THE DID HE SAY DIVERSION IT IS NOR A. VEHICLE DRIVER, IS THERE
ANYTHING THAT. SHOWS THAT THERE IS A CONNECTION BETWEEN DIGITALLY.
LIT SIGNS AND ALSO CARS AND TRUCK MISHAPS?
>> > > YOUR WORSHIP, THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF STUDY DONE ON THE.
DIGITAL BILLBOARDS AND TRYING TO.
ASSOCIATE OR TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY INFLUENCE SECURITY. NONE OF THE RESEARCH TO DATE IS.
IF DOES CAUSE EVEN MORE COLLISIONS, conclusive IN INDICATING THAT. THERE HAS BEEN RESEARCH STUDY DONE.
THAT SHOWS THAT IT IS AS WELL AS IT ISN'' T', AND ALSO DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT ' S. RELATIVELY NEW, THERE ' S STILL. ONGOING RESEARCH STUDY, WHERE THE FHWA IN THE U.S.IS DOING QUITE A.
COMPREHENSIVE RESEARCH PROGRAM.
CURRENTLY TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER. THAT INFORMATION IS NOT.
AVAILABLE YET BUT THE INFORMATION THAT'' S BEEN. > > IS IT NOT OFFERED JUST BECAUSE IT''
S–. >> > YES, BECAUSE THE RESEARCH STUDY IN.
THE DIGITAL BILLBOARDS BEGAN.
IN THE EARLY 2000s BUT TO DAY AS I SAID THERE'' S BEEN A GREAT DEAL
OF. RECORDS DONE BUT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
DEFINITIVE, TYING THAT TO SAFE SECURITY.
>> > > SO THERE– I SEE IN THE.
RECORD THEY'' RE ASKING FOR 10 SECONDS AS OPPOSED TO 6. IS IT DUE TO THE– AS.
ALDERMAN CHABOT SAYS, IT APPEARS LIKE A FLASH AND THE LESS.
FLASHES THERE ARE, THE BETTER.
OFF YOU ARE? >> > > I THINK WHAT ' S MORE VITAL.
IS THE DIRECT EXPOSURES OF THE VEHICLE DRIVERS.
TO A SPECIFIC VARIETY OF ADS, AND ALSO FROM WHAT WE'' VE SEEN–. BROADEN FROM SOME ESTIMATIONS.
THAT WE'' VE DONE, IT REALLY DOESN ' T MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE.
IN TERMS OF THE PRICE WHETHER.
IT'' S A 6 SECOND OR 10 SECONDLY. THE DRIVER IS GENERALLY GOING TO.
BE EXPOSED TO 2 ADS SO.
DEPENDING UPON ON WHAT COMPONENT OF THE CYCLE THEY'' RE COMING TO THE.
SIGN, THE MAJORITY OF ARE GOING TO SEE AT.
LEAST ONE CHANGE ANYWAYS IF IT'' S 6 OR 10 SECONDS AND THERE ' S. BEEN NO STUDY TO SAY THAT 6.
> > SO THAT ' S THE DEBATE IN THE. > > MANY THANKS REALLY MUCH, ALDERMAN. > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE.
INQUIRY DUE TO THE FACT THAT I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT NITS, NATS, CANDLES.
WITH FEET OUGHT TO ALL BE.
REGULATED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BECAUSE THAT DISCUSSES THE.
DISTRACTION OF ILLUMINATION.
>> > > WHAT WE ' RE DOING WITH THESE IS WE'' RE ACTUALLY TREATING. THEM DIFFERENT REGARDING.
FOOTPRINT. THERE ARE PARTICULAR POINTS THAT.
NEED TO BE REGULATED WITHOUT.
QUESTION BUT AS FOR AREA INDICATORS AND ALSO ALL OF.
THESE, THESE ARE BEING DEALT WITH.
DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER SIGN? >> > > CORRECT. OUR BELIEF TODAY–.
TODAY'' S BYLAWS WITH THE 6m SET BACK, THAT THESE INDICATIONS JUST BE.
ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL.
INDUSTRIAL PARKS AND THAT THESE SIGNS DO NOT INFLUENCE.
RESIDENTIAL, THESE ARE.
EXISTING POLICIES TODAY IN POSITION IN THE LAW. OF COURSE.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS, ALDERMAN KEATING. ALDERMAN CHABOT?
>> >'> I ' M UNCERTAIN IF WE HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME BEFORE LUNCH, YOUR.
>> PRAYER, BUT THANK YOU. > >'Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WE ' LL SETTLE IN,
>> ALDERMAN CHABOT.
>
> I ' VE GOT A PAIR OF.
QUESTIONS.NOT SURE THAT TO ADDRESS THIS.
ONE WITH BUT I ' VE GOT A NUMBER.
OF AMENDMENTS THAT I WAS PROPOSING. SOME OF WHICH–.
I ' M UNCERTAIN TO ADDRESS WITH WHICH WITH WHOM BUT ONE OF THE.
REFERRALS IN THE. CHANGES THAT I HAD PROPOSED HAD TO ACCOMPLISH WITH SOME OF THE. POINTS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN.
REGARDS TO THE TROUBLES. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT WAS CLAIMED.'REGARDING RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LINE VERSUS. SIDE OF HIGHWAY. SOME OF THE.
RECOMMENDATIONS Consist Of 60m ON.
>> 60km/h OR LESS, 10m OR 70km/h OR LESS As Well As 14m FOR 80.
KILOMETRES OR GREATER. I ' M JUST WONDERING WHAT YOUR IDEAS REMAIN IN REGARDS TO. THOSE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS.
> > WE ARE'OPEN UP TO THAT'. FOR THE 14m SETBACK, IF IT ' S. GRADUATED INCREASE, BASED ON.
RATE LIMITS, WE ' RE OPEN UP TO THAT CONCESSION. AS MENTIONED IN THE ORIGINAL.
DISCUSSION, WE DON ' T THINK IT ' S NECESSARY AS SHOWN BY OUR. SPECIAL ILLS AS WELL AS THE TRUTH THERE ' S ALREADY A 6m SETBACK. > > I ASKED A QUESTION EARLIER.
THE ONE SECOND SHIFT. VERSUS NO EVEN MORE THAN ONE 2ND SHIFT. > > AS MENTIONED, THE.
MODERN TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS THE TRANSITION TO ADJUSTMENT, CORRECT.
THE MODEL THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
IS IT SIMPLY UNDER A SECOND SAND IT SATISFIES THE SUGGESTED GUIDELINES.
AND ALSO ADMINISTRATION MENTIONED.
OUGHT TO BE GREATER THAN A SECOND, AND ALSO WE CONTAINER CHANGE IT TO BE. CLOSER TO A SECOND, JUST OVER. A SECONDLY, IT COULD BE 1.1.
TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS CHANGE.
TO BE TRANSFORMED. OUR FACTOR, I GUESS, IS THAT THESE SIGNS HAVE BEEN IN POSITION.
THEY ' VE WORKED EFFICIENTLY. WE ' RE NOT AWAY–.
MINDFUL OF ANY CHALLENGES OR SAFETY AND SECURITY CONCERNS AS WELL AS
THE ONES. IN THE CITY OF CALGARY TODAY. THROUGHOUT ALLURE BOARD HAVE BEEN OPERATING 6 MONTHS ANDS ALSO,.
AS McNOOISMGT AS WELL AS THIS.
VERSION– ONCE MORE THERE HAVE BEEN NO.
PROBLEMS THAT WE'' RE AWARE OF.
WITH THE VERSION RUNNING TODAY. TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS IT TO BE.
TRANSFORMED, CORRECT.
>> SINCE I WAS GOING TO SAY I ' VE SEEN OTHER MANUFACTURERS, > >.
OR OTHER BUSINESS HAVE.
TRANSITION TIMES CONNECTED WITH SOME OF THEIR LED.
PRESENTS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT I.
SAW ON THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE, WHICH WAS BASICALLY LIKE 1/100 OF A.
SECONDLY BETWEEN DIFFERENT.
ADVERTISEMENTS.SO YOU WOULD NOT BE AGAINST. HAVING IT A MINIMUM OF ONE.
SECOND, IS THAT KIND OF WHAT
I RECOGNIZE? > > CORRECT. WE WOULD NOT
>> BE OPPOSED. > > OKAY. >> AND I'' LL TRY AS WELL AS MAKE THAT.
ARGUMENT LATER. IT ISN'' T AMONG THE PROPOSED. MODIFICATIONS THAT I HAD. THERE ARE A FEW OTHER THINGS IN HERE AND ALSO I'' M NOT SURE IF YOU. SAW THE RATION ALLEGATION.
CONNECTED WITH MY RECOMMENDED CHANGES. ALDERMAN FARRELL, MYSELF AND.
ALDERMAN PINCOTT HAD A POSSIBILITY TO CONSULT WITH MANAGEMENT.
AND ALSO A FEW OF THE TRAFFIC.
DESIGN PEOPLE IN REGARDS TO WHY THEY HAD ACTUALLY INCORPORATED.
SEVERAL OF THE TROUBLES THAT THEY.
HAD, FIELD OF VIEW AS YOU HEARD, STRENGTH AND ALSO THE.
CHANGE IN THE METHOD THAT.
MANAGEMENT WILL CERTAINLY EXAMINE THOSE BASED ON THE CONE AS YOU.
PROBABLY SAW AS AGAINST THE.
CONCENTRIC CIRCLE THAT WAS INITIALLY RECOMMENDED AS WELL AS WAS.
INCLUDED IN THE LAW. TRANSFORMING IT FROM THE FACE OF AND LOOKING AT THAT CONE AND ALSO I.
DON'' T KNOW IF YOU HAD A POSSIBILITY. TO CHECK OUT THAT CONE PRIOR TO BUT IT–. WHAT I SAW FROM YOUR EXPERT.
THERE ON THE LIGHTING FROM STANTECH, SHE DID TYPE OF.
DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE WOULD.
BE REDUCED STRENGTH AS YOU MOVED OUTSIDE OF THAT CONE. WITHIN THAT CONE, IT KIND.
OF SUGGESTED THAT THE STRENGTH WAS RELATIVELY.
CONCENTRATED IN THOSE AREAS AS.
WELL.SO JUST YOUR IDEAS FROM THE. LIGHTING POINT OF VIEW ON THE. CONE THAT WAS OFFERED BY MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS HOW YOU SEE. THAT EFFECT BEING THE PROBLEMS? > > AS A MATTER OF FACT IT ' S ALSO MORE
>> TO OUR ADVANTAGE, WE FEELING THIS. MEASUREMENT AS DONE BY THE.
LIGHTS EXPERT IS DONE DIRECTLY ON. YOU HAVE TO BE DRIVING. STRAIGHT IN THE DIRECTION OF THE INDICATION
SO RIGHT OFF THE BAT WHEN YOU ' RE. DRIVING ON THE ROAD AS WELL AS THE.
DIGITAL IS OFF IS THESET BACK 6m, 8m, 10, 14m YOU'' RE. BEGINNING TO GET AWAY FROM THE.
30 ° CONE OF VISION ALREADY OFF THE BAT. AS WELL AS YES, 30 ° IS ONE OF THE MOST.
OCCURRENCE STRAINED– MOST INTENSE AND BASED ON HER.
DIMENSIONS IS GOES DOWN OFF AT.
ABOUT 80m. AT ABOUT 80m FROM THE INDICATION IS.
WHEN AMBIENT LIGHTING RATHER.
WELL TAKES CONTROL OF WHICH THE SIGN–.
IF YOU'' RE GOING TO MEASURE IT. FROM 80m As Well As TRANSFORM THE INDICATION OFF, YOU GET THE VERY SAME DIMENSION.
BALLS OF THE AMBIENT> LIGHTS. IN THE LOCATION.
> > OK', THAT ' S INTERESTING. 80m, I ' M UNCERTAIN IF I HAD. HEARD THAT NUMBER BEFORE BUT I VALUE YOU SAYING THAT.
CURRENTLY, AMBIENT LIGHT … THIS IS. NOT LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT ' S MORE VIBRANT SUCH AS MAYBE.
COMPARISON WITH CONNECTIONS TO. AT WHAT FACTOR WOULD THE FULL.
LIGHT OUTCOME OF An INDICATOR AT 500 NITS AT EVENING? DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF.
COMPARISONS TO SORT OF PROVIDE M ME–.
>> > > ACTUALLY, YOU RECOGNIZE WHAT.
WOULD BE A GOOD CONTRAST AS WELL AS SHAHEEN WOULD BE THE VERY BEST.
PERSON TO RESPONSE THIS, WHEN.
SHE MEASURED MEASURES A SIGN SHE COMPARED IT TO NORTH.
AMERICAN ILLUMINATION SPECIFICATIONS.
FOR ILLUMINATION AS WELL AS LIGHT STANDARDS THAT THE CITY OF.
CALGARY USES, ILLUMINATION THAT.
YOU DO INSIDE AN LEAVE OF A STRUCTURE, FOR INSTANCE,.
CERTAIN LIGHTS DEGREE.
INDICATOR– LIGHT BRIGHT COMPARED TO THE. REGULAR LIGHT SPECIFICATIONS THAT.
INSIDE IT ' S A SEPARATE ISSUE
. HDTVs SELF-ADJUST BUT THEY DON ' T HAVE TO COMPLETE WITH. AMBIENT LIGHT INSIDE YOUR HOME SO IF.
YOU TURN OUT ALL THE LIGHTS ON THE
INSIDE THE DISPLAY WILL. DROP DOWN TO REGARDING 450 NITS.
WELL, WITH– IF YOU OPEN UP THE DRAPES, YOU. WON ' T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE IT.'SINCE IT ONLY PUTS OUT TYPICALLY MAX OF A THOUSAND.
NITS SO HENCE THE REASON FOR.
5,000 KNITS NITS THROUGHOUT THE DAY FOR AN OUTDOOR INDICATION SO.
SIMPLY A FEELING OF–.
PUTTING THINGS INTO POINT OF VIEW IN COMPARISON TO.
OTHER POINTS, IF YOU COULD.
PROVIDE ME SOME COMPARATIVE EVALUATION ON THAT.
>> > > YEAH, SHAHEEN CAN TALK.
ABOUT A FEW OTHER LIGHTING STHADZ THE CITY UTILIZES TO.
PROCEDURE CONVENTIONAL ILLUMINATION.
OUTSIDE. >> > > THE ILLUMINATION DEGREE.
GENERALLY–.
IF YOU'' RE TALKING LIKE EAST VILLAGE, LIKE PATH IS LIKE.
1.5, 1.8 FOOT CANDLES. THAT'' S THE LIGHTING LEVEL. CURRENTLY, THE DIGITAL BOARD RESEARCH.
THAT WE DID, THE MAJORITY OF THE.
IF YOU TIN SEE THE READ THAT, analysis– I CAN PUT IT AGAIN–.
GO WE TOOK, THE MAXIMUM THAT.
WE GOT WAS 1.98 FOOT CANDLES SO IF YOU TAKE NORMAL.
LIGHTS DEGREE FOR MIDTOWN,.
LIKE I WOULD SAY IT MUST RESEMBLE ABOUT ONE FOOT CANDLE SO.
PERMITTED THE–.
THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED TRESPASS IS.8 FOOT CANDLES SO ONE FOOT.
CANDLE LIGHT AMBIENT PLUS THE LIGHT.
TRESPASS THROUGH THE DIGITAL SIGNAGE, IF YOU ASSEMBLE,.
IT'' S LIKE 1.8 FOOT CANDLES. BUT SOME PLACES IT MAY BE A LITTLE EVEN MORE, 1.2 FOOT.
CANDLES ANDS ALSO.8 SO IT'' S ABOUT. 2 FOOT CANDLES SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHTING DEGREES THAT WE.
GOT IT'' S LESS THAN 2 FOOT.
CANDLES, SIMPLY THE LIGHTS LEVEL.
>> > > HOW MUCH IT WOULD GET RID OF.
THE GROUND DIRECTLY BEFORE THE INDICATOR?
>> > > ONCE MORE, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE.
DIGITAL SIGNS, IT DEPENDS UPON– LIKE, THE STUDY THAT.
WE DID, IT WAS FOR THE.
DOWNTOWN.NOW, A DIFFERENT STANDARD. WOULD APPLY IF THIS IS FOR A.
HOUSE.
if IT ' S A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AFTER THAT THE LIGHT TRESPASS LIMIT.
IS LOWER COMPARED TO THE MEDIUM MIXED USAGE SYSTEM THAT WE.
MADE USE OF. IT'' S SUBJECTIVE AS WELL AS IT DEPENDS WHERE IT'' S BEING USED. > > WHETHER IT'' S TRANSMITTED. LIGHT OR SHOWED LIGHT, YOU COULD STILL USAGE A CANDLE–.
ONE CANDLEABRA OR ONE CANNEDA. MEASUREMENT, LIKE ONE CANDLEA PER METERS SETTLED?
>> > > THAT ' S RIGHT
>>. > > AS A DIMENSION WHETHER IT'' S SHOWED OR TRANSMITTED. FOR AN I WILL CERTAINLY HUGE NATURED.
INDICATOR THAT'' S LIT FROM A STATISTIC INCANDESCENT LIGHT.
THAT'' S REFLECTED OFF OF An INDICATION,.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY SORT OF DIMENSIONS DONE CON SEVERAL OF.
THOSE EXISTING SIGNS?
>> WHEN WE WERE DOING THE RESEARCH STUDY WE ALSO TOOK A.
MEASUREMENT FROM ONE OF THE, > > YES IN FACT.
LIGHTING WHICH WAS REQUIREMENT, CONVENTIONAL. SO IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING THE.
CONVENTIONAL BOARD, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD GET.
APPROXIMATELY. ANOTHER THING TO MENTION, THAT THE READ THAT IS YOU WILL SEE,.
IT'' S SECURED AS WHITE.
BACKGROUND.THAT ' S THE MOST–.
MAXINE TENSITY–.
MAXIMUM STRENGTH SO ALL THE ANALYSES THAT YOU SEE IS THE.
WHITE HISTORY OF DIGITAL.
SIGNS. >> > > OH. THIS NOT LED BILLBOARD THAT.
YOU'' RE REFERENCING, THAT WASN'' T NECESSARILY A FULL.
WHITE BACKGROUND?
>> > > IT WAS PARTIALLY. LIKE THE ONE WHICH I TOOK–.
IT HAD SOME WHITE HISTORY.
AND SOME COLOURED TOO. >> > > 103 NITS, THAT WHAT I'' M. ANALYSIS–.
>> > > THAT ' S RIGHT, THAT ' S WHAT WE GOT.
>> > > ALL RIGHT. — INTERESTING. ONCE MORE, LIMITED TO–.
BECAUSE CAKE TICK SITUATION ON THOSE KIND OF SIGNS ON A.
BILLBOARD, THE INTENSITY
. WOULDN ' T VARY DEPENDING ON THE ANGLE OF SIGHT. YOU WOULDN'' T HAVE
THAT. RESTRICTIVE CONE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE WITH AN LED?
>> > > THAT ' S CORRECT NCHT.
>> > > IT WOULD BE SAME OUTPUT? >> > > YES>>. > > WIDE VARIETY?
>> > > THAT ' S RIGHT >>. > > AS OPPOSED TO A VERY
. CONCENTRATED OUT PUT WITH AN LED?
>> > > THAT ' S RIGHT >>. > > THANK YOU.
>> THAT AIDS. > > ONE EVEN MORE FACTOR, I DISCOVERED KNOW WITH THE CONVENTIONAL.
BOARD, WE HAVE THE UP LIGHTS.
— WHICH WE GENERALLY DON'' T ACCOUNT– THERE'' S A WHOLE LOT OF.
LIGHT SPILLED THAT INCREASES,. WHEREAS FOR THE DIGITAL BOARD, IT'' S PRIMARILY COMING OUT OF IT.
AND ALSO DOWNWARDS SO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING GOING.
> > NO LIGHT DILG AIR POLLUTION? AS WELL AS SO I'' M NOT SURE IF YOU HAD HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT SOME.
OF THE SUGGESTIONS,.
INCLUDING SOME OF THE RELAXATIONS ON THE REGULATION.
GUIDELINES– I'' M NOT EXACTLY SURE. THAT CANISTER REMARK ON EVERY ONE OF THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT.
WE WERE GOING TO PUT FORWARD.
AS WELL AS YOUR THOUGHTS ON EVERY ONE OF THESE. I PUT ON'' T KNOW IF YOU'SAW THEM. THERE ' S AB, C, D, E AND ALSO F, G, H
AND ALSO I AND J AS COMPONENT OF THE. ADVISED MODIFICATIONS. EXISTS ANYTHING IN RIGHT HERE THAT YOU DO LIKE OTHER THAN THE 10. 2ND POINT WHICH I RECOGNIZE YOU'. DON ' T LIKE? EXISTS ANYTHING ELSE IN BELOW.
THAT YOU ASSUME IS SOMETHING.
THAT YOU COULD WORK WITH? >> > > YOUR WORSHIP, VIA THE.
CHAIR PROBABLY I'' M BEST TO.
RESPONSE THAT.THE SHORT
ANSWER ALDERMAN.
CHABOT IS THE AMENDMENTS THAT.
ARE SUGGESTED BARGAIN WITH SOME MATTERS WHICH WE DON'' T HAVE AN. ISSUE WITH. THEY DEAL WITH SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THE INDUSTRY.
DOESN'' T HAVE AN'PROBLEM WITH. YOU ' VE HEARD THE SOLUTION REGARDING THE GRADUATED TROUBLE–.
YOU GOT YOUR ANSWER, 20.
SECS. THE ISSUE WITH THE 300m as well as.
THE TROUBLE WITH THE 150m EVEN.
IF YOU TAKE IT FROM THE FRONT, WHICH IS A FANTASTIC RENOVATION I.
ADMIT, IT DOESN'' T BARGAIN WITH. WHAT YOU ' RE TRYING TO GET AT WHICH IS LAST ACTORS AND.
VISIBILITY. YOU'' VE HEARD EVIDENCE OF THE MEASUREMENT, FOR INSTANCE, IT.
SAYS 08m Has To Do With IN WHICH IT.
REACHES. IT DOESN'' T ALLOW ONE TO BARGAIN. WITH THE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT YOU'' RE. HANDLING, WHERE THE INDICATOR IS WHERE IT'' S POINTING THEREFORE. FORTH. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT AMENDMENT THAT YOU MADE IS. THAT IT '
S GREAT WHEN, IT CLAIMS. FRONT OF THE INDICATOR. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? ADJUSTMENTS SUBURB WHICH. IS THE BYLAW NOW, THE HOUSE DEVICE, THAT ' S FINE.
BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO. DO IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT HIS LOT OF SITUATIONAL CONCERNS.
TO TAKE CARE OF THERE. NO ONE HAS A TROUBLE WITH NOT SHINE FARMING LIGHT INTO A.
RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT. IT'' S A GREAT START FROM THE FRONT. IT'' S GOOD THAT THE.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO BE RELAXABLE, TRYING TO RELAX.
THAT SORT OF RULE AT STAB IS.
DIFFICULT IF IT'' S IRONCLAD, LIKE RESTRICTED SO THERE'' S A. LITTLE A PHRASING PROBLEM SO THAT.
WILL CERTAINLY TAKE TREATMENT OF THAT ONE.THE COURSE E SIGN AND THE.
KLASMT F INDICATOR SPACING WE'' VE. ALREADY DISCUSSED, I PUT ON'' T THINK YOU ' VE ADDRESSED THAT.
AND'LAND USAGE DISTRICTS, I. DON ' T KNOW THAT THOSE WERE ADDRESSED IN YOUR MODIFICATION, I.
DIDN'' T SEE THEM. THAT ' S A DIFFERENT CONCERN TOTALLY. WITH REGARD TO THE.
CHANGE, THE WHINING TO SAY ANY RULES ARE RELAXABLE IS.
WELCOME. THE SEPARATION FROM HOME LINE IS WELCOME. AGREEMENTED ON SPEED. THE MEASUREMENT OF EFFECT ON A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING DEVICE FROM.
THE FACE OF INDICATOR IS WELCOME.
WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE EVEN MORE TUNING UP DONE BASED ON.
WHAT YOU'' VE HEARD TODAY.
>> > > SO YOU ' RE PHRASE THE 80m MEASUREMENT WOULD BE SOMETHING.
THAT YOU WOULD BE EVEN MORE.
INCLINED TO SUPPORT AS OPPOSED TO 150 OR 300?
>> > > YES, YOUR PRAYER.
>> >
>> > OKAY. > > ACTUALLY, I HAVE NO FURTHER. QUESTIONS AT THIS MOMENT BUT
. HAVE LOTS TO DISPUTE FURTHER.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I'' M A. BIT SHOCKED, ALDERMAN CHABOT. I WAS ALL CLEARING UP IN FOR THE.
LUNCH BREAK. THANK YOU QUITE. ALDERMAN PINCOTT?
>> > > MANY THANKS. A GREAT DEAL OF MY QUESTIONS WERE AROUND ILLUMINATION AND ALSO THE REAL.
IMPACT ON ILLUMINATION– ON THE.
LIGHT RESULT OF THESE DETAILS. AND YOU'' VE DONE A LOT OF WORK.
TO SHOT AND ALSO OBTAIN United States TO.
UNDERSTAND THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. WHEN WE HAVE A LOOK AT YOUR.
PICTURE OF ESSENTIALLY THE DROP-OFF AS WE GO OFF FROM.
THE VIEWING ANGLE, DID YOU.
COMPUTE THAT AS A PERCENT, WHAT KIND OF DROP-OFF AT 30%,.
70%–.
AT 70 °, 30 °? OR DO WE JUST HAVE IT AS SIMPLY.
THE STRAIGHT DIMENSIONS?
>> > > THIS MEASUREMENT ACTUALLY ORIGINATES FROM THE SUPPLIER OF.
THE LED, ANYONE WHO PRODUCED.
THE DIGITAL SO WE GOT IF FROM THEM BUT WE DIDN'' T TAKE
IT THE. METHOD IT IS. WE ACTUALLY DID A DIMENSION AT SITE WHICH WAS REALLY CLOSE.
TO WHAT THEY HAVE INDICATED.
>> >
> OKAY.AND WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE AESNA.
GUIDELINES, WHEN WE TAKE A.
APPEARANCE AT SAY THE STANDARDS FOR AMBIENT ROAD LIGHT, ROAD.
LEVEL INTENSITY REQUIRED FOR.
SAFETY AND SECURITY ON A WALKWAY, SAY FOR YOU RECOGNIZE A PEDESTRIAN, WHAT'' S. THE MINIMAL DEGREE FOOT CANDLE LIGHTS.
THAT WE NEED ON A WALKWAY FOR NIGHTTIME SECURITY?
>> WHEN WE DEFINED LIKE, > >.
PATHWAY SECURITY, THERE ARE LOCATIONS THAT COULD BE DEFINED. THE AREA–.
THERE COULD BE LOCATION THAT IS WOULD as well as safe REQUIRE LOWER.
FOOT CANDLE LIGHTS AND THERE COULD.
BE LOCATION WHICH REQUIRES HIGH SAFETY AND SECURITY SO I MAY–.
DISCUSSING HIGH SECURITY,.
THE DEMAND IS CONCERNING 1.5 FOOT CANDLE LIGHTS.
>> > > 1.5 BEING OKAY.
>> > > THERE ARE LOCATIONS WHICH WE HAVE DESIGNED WHICH ADDITIONALLY DEALS.
WITH.5 FOOT CANDLE LIGHTS BALLS.
THAT'' S NOT An EXTREMELY SAFETY CONCERN LOCATION.
>> > > SO KIND OF.5 IS THE POINT–.
IF I GO BACK– IF I GO THEN TO YOUR TABLE.
THAT IS MEASURING–.
WHERE YOU'' RE DETERMINING FOOT CANDLE LIGHTS AWAY FROM THE INDICATION,.
WHEN WE'' RE TAKING An APPEARANCE THEN,. SAY.5 FOOT CANDLES AS SORT OF A NIGHTTIME AMBIENT LIGHT.
LEVEL FROM GUIDELINES FOR.
SAFETY AND SECURITY, MOST OF THESE, EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT ARE.
IN YELLOW, WHICH YOU ARE–.
ARE BELOW THAT DEGREE, RIGHT? >> > > THAT ' S RIGHT
>>. > > AS WELL AS THE ONES IN YELLOW ARE.
MEASUREMENTS THAT WRM TAKEN AS YOU RELOCATED AWAY THAT YOU ENDED.
IT UP BEING CLOSE TO A STREET.
LIGHT? >> > > THAT ' S. WHEREVER IT'' S HIGHLIGHTED IS. YELLOW.THERE WAS An ILLUMINATION CRITERION.
REALLY CLOSE TO WHERE WE WERE.
TAKING THE MEASUREMENT, THAT'' S WHY WE HIGHLIGHTED IT.
INDIVIDUALLY.
>> > > O.K..
> > SO THAT ' S THE DEBATE IN THE. > > I ASKED An INQUIRY EARLIER. > > ONE EVEN MORE POINT, I DISCOVERED KNOW WITH THE CONVENTIONAL.
> > THANK YOU. > > THAT ' S.AND AFTER THAT THE ONES THAT ARE NA,
IS THAT DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS– I.
DON'' T KNOW– A BUILDING OR SOMETHING IN THE SFWHA >> > > YES
,. THERE WAS A BUILDING. IT WAS DROPPING INSIDE– SOME OF THE FACTORS WERE.
DROPPING INSIDE THE BUILDING.
AS WELL AS SOME POINT IT WAS NOT SAFE TO TAKE DUE TO THE FACT THAT NONRENEWABLE FUEL SOURCES A.
HIGHWAY SO WE HAD JUST LEFT.
THOSE FACTORS.
>> > > EXPAND YOUR FURTHEST AWAY.
DIMENSION– YOU DID THIS IN.
HUNDRED FOOT INCREMENTS SO YOUR FURTHEST AWAY WAS 300.
FEET SO–.
>> > > THAT ' S CORRECT >>. > > TO ASSEMBLE FOR A INTO. METERS, A HUNDRED METERS MAX>>? > > JESMT WAS THE FURTHEST YOU WERE AWAY. AND ALSO IN NEARLY ALL LOCATIONS,.
EXCEPT FOR STRAIGHT ON, IF YOU HELD YOUR HAND UP, YOU.
WOULDN'' T IN FACT SEE A SHADOW? DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE BELOW AMBIENT LIGHT LEVELS?
>> > > AND ALSO ADDITIONALLY THE ANALYSES THAT.
WE TOOK, SIMPLY TO REFERENCE TO THE COUNCIL, THE READ THAT GO.
WE TOOK WAS AT EYE DEGREE.
GIVE THANKS TO YOU.I SIMPLY–. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK
. > > THANK YOU, WORSHIP.
THE GUIDELINES AND ALSO THE EFFECTS.
THAT IT'' S GOING TO HAVE. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE 6.
SECOND REGULATION VERSUS THE 10.
SECOND RULE, WHAT CURRENTLY I IS–.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'' M WRONG.
BUT WHAT CURRENTLY IS ALLOWED WITH THE FLIPPY ONES IS 6.
SECONDS, IS THAT RIGHT? YOU'' RE– OR IS IT 10 SECS? >> > CURRENTLY–.
IN FACT I'' M GOING TO SHOW IT AESTHETICALLY. NOW THERE''
S NO. THEY'' RE ON A PRISM BROADEN WE'' LL PLAY ONE CURRENTLY.
BETTER BUT– >> > > ACTUALLY CANISTER YOU GO TO THE.
COMPLETE SCREEN. THERE IT IS, THE ONE LEFT WING. , if YOU WANT TO BEGIN BY HAND.
.
COUNTING IT THAT'' S UP FOR ABOUT 3 TO 4 SECONDS AND AFTERWARDS.
THERE'' S A PHYSICAL MOTION. WHICH IS ANOTHER PERSON 2 SECS ANDS ALSO. YOU GET TO BE LIKE 5, 6.
SWEKDZ THE ADVERTISEMENT AS WELL AS THE MOTION.AND THEN WE '
VE COMPARED IT TO. OUR DIGITAL 6 SECOND
DESIGN TO. THE RIGHT.
> > OKAY. >> > > AND ALSO YOU CAN SEE THE.
DISTINCTION OF THE PHYSICAL MOVEMENT AS WELL AS THE AD ROOM. AND AS WE PRESENTED THIS.
PRODUCT A YEAR AS WELL AS A FIFTY PERCENT AGO AND ALSO WE MET WITH ADMINISTRATION,.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IS SIMPLY.
ALL-NATURAL ACTION, EVOLUTION OF A BILLBOARD. THE MECHANIC PAL TRIAD ON THE.
LEFT WAS ALSO– ALSO GOT TREPIDATION BY.
THE CITY TWO DECADES AGO. THE ONE LEFT WING HAS EXIST FOR TWENTY YEARS ACROSS.
NORTH AMERICA, 3.
THAT CONTAINER BE REBOOTED AGAIN. AND BASICALLY WE THINK THE SIGNS–.
THE INDICATOR ON THE RIGHT IS A.
NATURAL ADVANCEMENT OF THE MECHANICAL TO THE DIGITAL,.
STILL DIG HAVING FUN AESTHETIC.
MESSAGE, AND ALSO ACTUALLY THE DURATION IS EVEN LONGER ON THE.
STREET, 6 SECONDS AS YOU LISTENED TO.
EARLIER, THE LONGER THE BETTER. AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME THEY'' VE. BEEN AROUND FOR A NUMBER OF.
>> YEARS SUCCESSFULLY. > > AS WELL AS I APPRECIATE THAT SO. THE JOIN THE LEFT, THE. TRI-LATERAL SIGN, CURRENTLY, THAT IS ALSO LIT UP AT NIGHT, IS.
IT NOT?
>> > > CORRECT.
IT'' S–
. IT ' S EXTERNALLY LIT SO. THERE ' S PHYSICAL LIGHT NEAR THE BOTTOM, YOU TIN KIND OF. SEE IT, A SINGLE LIGHT THAT. SHINES UPWARD TO SHINE THE FACE IS LIT AT NIGHT, CORRECT.
> > OKAY. THERE ' S LESS LIGHT CONTAMINATION AS An OUTCOME> OF IT. BEING EXTERNALLY LIT, SHINING.
UP ONTO THE– >
> YES, AS SHOWN BY THE–. THERE IS AN PROFESSIONAL RIGHT HERE–. BECAUSE THE LIGHT, it ' S MORE USEFUL FOR THE DIGITAL SIGN. IS CONSISTED OF AND FOCUSED IN. THE THE LINES OF THE INDICATOR AND ALSO IT BEAMS DOWNWARD AS
OPPOSED. TO THE PRACTICE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AS WELL AS.
YEARS WHICH IS LIGHTS ON THE BOTTOM TO SHINE UPWARD.
>> > > RIGHT, OK. NOW, I DERBY VALUED THE COMMENT THAT ALDERMAN CHABOT.
WHEN THE STOP CURRENTLY, MADE ABOUT. THE JOIN THE LEFT WHEN IT BEGINS TO CHANGE AS WELL AS IT'' S. ALMOST LIKE A PAGE SWITCHING.
AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT'' S JUST INSTANTANEOUSLY CHANGING.
THE PHOTO BUT YOU'' RE SAYING. THAT TAKES CONCERNING A 2ND FOR THAT TO OCCUR?
>> > > LONGER.
>> > > OH, OKAY, TWO SECONDS AFTER THAT? OKAY. AND ALSO IF THE PHOTO STAYS FOR HOW.
LOTS OF SECS RIGHT HERE AND AFTERWARDS 2 SECONDS?
>> > > IT TAKES 3 TO 4 SECONDS.
ACTUALLY FOR THAT PHYSICAL ACTIVITY TO GO THROUGH AND AFTER THAT.
AS SOON AS THE MOTION IS QUIT THE.
ADVERTISEMENT IS UP FOR LIKE 3 TO 4 SECONDS MAX.
>> > > OKAY. SO THE CONNECTION IS BASICALLY SIMPLY REALLY–.
THE DEVELOPMENT IN MODERN TECHNOLOGY, THE.
EVOLUTION OF THE INDICATOR, TO BE ABLE TO INSTANTLY HAVE A.
DIGITAL PICTURE WHICH YOU CANISTER.
TRANSFER A LOT MORE SDWRESH CORRECT. AS OPPOSED TO LITERALLY TAKING.
THREE SECS IT CANISTER NOW– ELECTRONIC DIGITAL CANISTER BE.
DONNA SECOND.
>> >
> OKAY.WHAT STRUCK ME AS INTERESTING.
IS THAT AS An OUTCOME OF THIS,.
YOU WERE ABLE TO ADD CIVIL SERVICE MESSAGING.
>> > > THE 2ND MODEL IS.
CRUCIAL TO US FOR TWO FACTORS. ONE, AS MENTIONED, IT'' S BEEN. AROUND FOR YEARS.
THESE SIGNS ARE NOT–. THEY ' RE COSTLY, BOTTOM LINE. AS WELL AS THE 6 SEC ENABLES US 2 POINTS. ONE AND ALSO THE MAJORITY OF IMPORTANTLY SMALL.
SERVICES SO AFFORD IT. IT KEEPS THE PRICES DOWN SO.
THAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE.
ACQUIRING THESE PROMOTIONS AND CANISTERS COMPLETE AGAINST BOX.
STORES, NATIONAL CHAINS. SECOND OF ALL, THE DESIGN ENABLES US TO CONTRIBUTE ONE PLACES–.
IT'' S A 10 MESSAGE MODEL, 10. 6-SECOND MESSAGES SO WE DONATE 10 %OF THE SIGN TO NON-PROFIT.
>> > >'IT ' S RIGHT INTO THE SOMETHING. YOU ' RE PROPOSING, IT ' S SOMETHING THAT YOU ' RE ACTUALLY. DOING? > > IT ' S IT ' S SOMETHING WE DO NOW. I ' M SORRY NOT PART OF THE BUY. LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE, IT ' S A MANDATE OF OUR BUSINESS.
AS MENTIONED BY DOUG, OUR. PRESENTER, WE ' VE BEEN DOING COMPANY RIGHT HERE FOR 80-PLUS.
YEARS. AS WELL AS IT'' S A REQUIRED FROM OUR POSSESSION TO PROVIDE BACK TO THE.
COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN AND.
1 WE INTRODUCED THESE SIGNS. FROM OUR HEAD-UP OWNERSHIP IS THAT WE DONATE ONE PLACE FOR.
WHICH AREA STAYS 24/7 THROUGHOUT THE YEAR,.
IF WE HAVE A LINE, REGARDLESS.
FOR ADVERTISERS THAT INTEND TO TAKE THAT SPOT, REGARDLESS IF.
WE CAN MARKET THAT MORE.
10% OF THE SIGN GOES TO THAT AND A LETTER? YOUR PACKAGE–.
>> > > NOW,'I ' VE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH THIS PUBLICATION
THAT YOU HAD
. SENT United States–. OR SORRY', THAT YOU ' VE DISTRIBUTED TO US WITH SEVERAL OF.
THE SIGN LOCATIONS– I UNDERSTAND.
YOU CAN'' T SEE IT FROM THERE WITH THE 300m RADIUS. CURRENTLY, SOME OF THE INDICATIONS THAT.
ARE SUGGESTED BELOW GET ON MAJOR ROADWAYS LIKE 9th Opportunity.
IF THIS RESTRICTION COMES.
INTO EFFECT, IT ESSENTIALLY WOULD GET RID OF THE TOOBLT USE.
THESE DIGITAL SIGNS BUT NOT.
NECESSARILY THE EXISTING INDICATORS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE?
>> > > CORRECT>>. > > IT WOULD PREVENT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS NEW.
KIND OF INDICATOR?
>> > > YEAH, CORRECT.WE HAVE ONE
ON 9th AVENUE,.
ACROSS FROM THE GREYHOUND BUS.
DEPOT AS YOU COME RIGHT INTO THE CORE.
>> > > MACLEOD ROUTE.
>> > > RIGHT NOW THAT SIGN MADE USE OF TO BE THE ONE LEFT WING, THE.
TRIO. THE SAME SIGNBOARD THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS ON THE CP RAIL RIGHT OF.
MEANS. WE MOSTED LIKELY TO THE CITY AND ALSO ASKED TO CONTAINING ADJUSTMENT IT FROM.
MECHANICAL TO DIGITAL. IT WAS REFUSED. THE ALLURE BOARD HEARD OUR.
PRESENTATION AND FELT IT WAS.
ACCEPTABLE BASED ON THE COUNTLESS PROBLEMS THAT WERE.
PUT IN LOCATION. A GREAT DEAL OF IT IS TODAY IN THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED.
IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.
>> > > SO NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT IT WENT WITH STAB–.
THAT'' S MORE OF AN. ADMINISTRATION ENERGETIC INQUIRY,'MAYBE I ' LL HOLD THAT A PERSON.
ACTUALLY ALDERMAN HODGES. MENTIONED IT, THE CONCEPT OF– HE REALLY STATED SOMETHING. CONCERNING BROWNISH-YELLOW WHICH ACTIVATED.
SOMETHING IN MY HEAD ABOUT AM BERT INFORMS. DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT.
> > VERY KNOW IS REALLY WEATHER CONDITION. THERE ' S A HANDFUL OF THESE SIGNS, THE NETWORK COULD
BE.
DEPARTMENTS, SUCH AS THE COPS TO USAGE IT FOR BROWNISH-YELLOW.
ALERT. IT'' S ALREADY USED IN THE U.S.EXTENSIVELY.
WHEN THERE IS AN AMBER.
ALERT, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE THEY and also signs HAVE PASSWORDS.
AND ALSO CODES AS WELL AS TEMPERATURE LEVEL.
PLATES THEY CONTAINER GET INVOLVED IN THE SYSTEM AND PUT UP AN AMBER.
ALERT, IMMEDIATELY USING THE.
NETWORK OF INDICATIONS. >> > > STHETS THING SOMETHING THAT.
YOU WOULD REALLY SUPPORT?
>> IF WE COULD MAKE THAT FUNCTION WITH ONE, > > WE WOULD BE THRILLED.
OF THE DEPARTMENTS RIGHT HERE. INDEED, NATURALLY WE WOULD SUPPORT IT. WE WOULD DO IT NOW WITH OUR.
IT'' S JUST THAT IT TAKES A. WHILE? SORRY, NOT NOR BROWNISH-YELLOW ALERT BUT FOR LOST, MISSING OUT ON PERSONS, FOR.
COURSE TAKES A FEW WEEKS TO PUT IT UP. SEE, BROWNISH-YELLOW ALERT YOU NEED.
INSTANTLY, ELECTRONIC OBVIOUSLY–.
>> > > YEAH,'I ' VE SEEN THAT OCCUR.
IN THE UNITED STATES.
>> > > YES AS WELL AS WE WOULD PROPOSE.
THAT–.
ONCE MORE IT WOULDN'' T BE A LAW POINT BUT WOULD BE COMPONENT
>> OF OUR. PROPOSITION, YES. > > A LOT OF THESE REALLY TECHNICAL CONCERNS WITH REGARDS.
FORTH, I ' M GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS OF MANAGEMENT AS. WHAT I ' M SEEING IS THAT I COMPREHEND THAT THERE IS A.
TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCE AND AS WELL AS A. RESULTOUTCOME IT IS INTERESTING, CERTAINLY, AND AS WELL AS HAS VARIOUS–.
THERE IS UNEASINESS CERTAINLY.
FROM OUR MANAGEMENT AND ALSO PEOPLE THAT ARE THINKING THAT.
THIS WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
ON THE VISUAL LIGHT POLLUTION WHICH'' S CONCERNING TOWELS.
AS A COMMUNITY AND.
TO THE VARIOUS WARD ALDERMEN. SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT.
YOU'' RE SAYING WITH RESTRICTION OF THE 300m WE WOULD.
SUCCESSFULLY REMOVE A GREAT DEAL OF.
THESE MAJOR STREETS, I SUGGEST, I HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF COMPASSION.
TOWARDS THAT IN UNDERSTANDING.
THAT THAT HAS AN INFLUENCE ON HAVING THE ABILITY TO SUPPLY THIS. YOU'' VE ANSWERED
MY. QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE 10 SECONDS AND ALSO THE SIX.
SECS AND ADDITIONALLY YOUR CAPABILITY.
TO OFFER AN AMBER ALERT, WHICH I THINK IS INTERESTING,.
AND ALSO THANKS VERY MUCH FOR.
YOUR PRESENTATIONS.THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. >
> Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK
>>. YOU, ALDERMAN MAR.
ALDERMAN POOTMANS?
>> > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER. OF ALL THE INTRIGUING PROBLEMS I WOULD LIKE TO DIG A LITTLE.
DEEPER INTO 300m AGAIN. I'' M NOT SURE WHO TO ADDRESS. COMPLYING WITH ON ALDERMAN JONES''. INQUIRIES, I ' M TRYING TO READ. THE WEB PAGE TAB 4 WHY FROM YOUR PAMPHLET, IT APPEARS INDUSTRY IS.
RECOMMENDING THAT WE DELETE.
THE SUGGESTION ESTABLISHING THE 300m Guideline.
THAT SEEMS RATHER CLEAR. DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION OF WHAT THE APPROPRIATE.
RANGE SHOULD BE? IS THERE ANY OTHER CONCERNS? >> > > THE SUGGESTION, IF IT.
WASN'' T FOR JUST STRAIGHT. DELEAGUE, BECAUSE AS MENTIONED EARLIER WE FEEL THAT THE BYLAW.
ADDRESSES IT TODAY WITH.
PROTECTING RESIDENTIAL, IT'' S EXTREMELY CLEAR IN THE BYLAW TODAY.
THAT THESE SIGNS CONTAINER NOT INFLUENCE.
ADVERSELY ON RESIDENTIAL BUT IF YOU WANTED ME TO THROW.
SOMETHING OUT, SUGGEST A.
COMPROMISE, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE 100m SO I WOULD TAKE IT–.
WE'' RE SAYING 80 NOW, YOU'' RE. HEARING FROM THE ILLUMINATION SPECIALIST BUT 100m FROM THE CONE,.
30 ° CONE OF FRONT OF THE INDICATOR,.
UNOBSTRUCTED.SO IF YOU INTENDED TO TAKE A.
MEASUREMENT AND ALSO YOU WISHED TO
DO. 100m FROM THE FRONT OF THE CHECK IN A MAJOR 30 ° PORTION. WHICH IS IN WHICH THE SIGN IS. EXTREME AND EFFICIENT, THAT WOULD RESEMBLE DIRECT
ON AND. YOU GO 100m FRASER VALLEY. CENTER POINT AS WELL AS DIFFERENT IT FROM THAT POINT, THAT WOULD BE. A FAIR CONCESSION. > > THANK YOU.AND LIKEWISE, I ' M NOT SURE IT ' S. BEEN BROUGHT UP BUT WHAT ABOUT.
BEHIND THE INDICATION? EXIST ANY ISSUES–
. SHOULD THERE BE A RANGE
. THAT ' S APPROPRIATE FOR TECHNICAL FACTORS, SOME SORT. OF RADIO FREQUENCY
OR. ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION– STHUD WE BE PUTTING THEM 10.
FEET OUTSIDE THE WINDOW OF
A. MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENTCIRCUMSTANCES > > THERE ' S NO CONCERN FROM AN. ELECTRONIC VIEWPOINT FOR THE INDICATOR. IT ' S LIKE A TELEVISION. IT ' S LED TECHNOLOGY NOSMGT YOU TIN SUPPORT YOUR T.V., NO. IMPACT P YOU COULD HAVE. VARIOUS BEHIND YOUR T.V., NO EFFECT. EXACT SAME IDEOLOGY HERE. AS FOR
LIGHTING, AS SHOWN BY THE
LIGHTS CELEBRATION, AGAIN LIKE. LED T.V., IF YOU STAND AT AN. ANGLE LOOKING RUB YOUR T.V., YOU TIN ' T MAKE OUT THE IMAGE,. YOU CAN BARELY SEE
ANY LIGHT. COMING FROM IT.SO AS SHOWN, THERE ' S NO. LIGHTS CONCERNS WHATSOEVER. BEHIND THE INDICATOR.
THE SIGN BARELY–
. IT BARELY HEMORRHAGES ANY'LIGHT ON. THE EDGES OF THE CHECK IN FRONT AND FROM BEHIND
IT ' S 0%.
NO DEMAND THERE FOR. SPLITTING UP. > > THANK YOU. SIMPLY THE ISSUE OF INTEREST. >> WHAT DOES MARKET PRACTICE IN STIPULATIONS OF. BILLBOARDS AND ALSO RESIDENTIAL. WINDOWS? WAS THERE A NORM AT PEROT–.
NORMAL PROTOCOL OR INDUSTRY.
STANDARD JOOD WE ' RE PROHIBITED IN RESIDENTIAL.'AREAS, THAT ' S EXTREMELY CLEAR
. IN THE BYLAW IT STATES THAT LIGHTING. ALIGNMENT OF A SIGN CAN NOT.
NEGATIVELY INFLUENCE RESIDENTIAL SO THAT ' S A REALLY BLACK AND. WHITE– REALLY CLEAR STATEMENT. IN THE LAW TODAY.
> > A SOLITARY CONDO TOWER>> WOULD. MAKE UP A RESIDENTIAL. DISTRICT, THAT ZONING IS SUCH THAT YOU WOULD BE PROHIBITED. FROM FINDING EVEN IN SAY A.
NEIGHBORING ZONE– LAND USE THAT WOULD POSSIBLY. PERMIT YOU TO BE THERE? > > THAT ' S INTERESTING BECAUSE MIDTOWN IS A COMBINED USAGE LOCATION,. IT ' S NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE A. CONDOMINIUM TOWER ZONED TO ALLOW THESE SORT OF SIGNS NEARBY
. APARTMENT TOWERS, PEOPLE LIVING IN. DOWNTOWN ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY ' RE IN–.
THEY STAY IN A COMBINED USE.
COMMERCIAL, INTENSE INDICATIONS, LIT SIGNS, TRAIN–. TRAIN TRACKS, HEAVIER.
WEBSITE TRAFFIC, HEAVIER PEDESTRIAN QUANTITIES, AND SO ON, ET CETERA. THE MEANS THE BYLAW IS.
WRITTEN NOW, SEPARATION FROM RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BUT FROM.
A CONDOMINIUM–.
IF THAT'' S A RESIDENTIAL SDPRIKT AFTER THAT THE SOLUTION TOO.
YOUR CONCERN IS YES BUT IN.
DOWNTOWN MAYBE ALSO ZONED COMMERCIAL, IF YOU.
UNDERSTAND THE MIDTOWN–.
>> > > I'KNOW, I ' M SLIGHTLY OFF SUBJECT RIGHT HERE. WHAT WOULD THE RANGE.
BE FROM AMONG THESE– FROM THE REAR OF ONE OF THESE.
INDICATIONS TO THE LOCAL VICTORY DEPOT?
>> > > THE BACK? ONCE MORE AS LONG AS THE INDICATOR IS.
DISCUSSED–.
AS LONG AS THE INDICATION IS NOT DEALING WITH INTO THE APARTMENT, THE.
BACK NEED TO BE NO CONCERN. , if WE BACK ONTO THE WALL OF A CONDOMINIUM TOUSHGS AGAINST A.
CONCRETE WALL WALL SURFACE A CONDOMINIUM.
CONDO
TOWER AND WE BACK RIGHT ONTO IT, BUT THE INDICATION IS CONFRONTING.
ONWARD AS WELL AS IS NOT VISIBLE,.
THAT'' S BEEN DONE WITH EXISTING BILLBOARDS TODAY. WE SEE NO DIFFERENCE FOR A.
DIGITAL SIGNBOARD TO BE BACKING ONTO A HOME, AS.
LONG AS IT'' S ZONED AND. COMMERCIAL, AS LONG AS THE INDICATOR IS ZONED ENABLES IT TO.
BE ZONED THERE, COMMERCIAL.
COMMERCIAL AND DOES NOT INFLUENCE RESIDENTIAL BEFORE THE.
INDICATION, WE SEE NO ISSUE.
>> > > GOOD, MANY THANKS EXTREMELY MUCH.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: MANY THANKS,.
ALDERMAN POOTMANS. > > THANK YOU.
AS WELL AS I WILL CERTAINLY LIKELY GO OVER SO I'' LL SIMPLY STOP WHEN NOON COMES. I'' M SORRY, SHAHEEN, WHAT'' S. YOUR LAST NAME? >> > > MACCIVANI.
>> > > ALL RIGHT, DID YOU DO THE.
LANGEVIN BRIDGE? IT LOOKS FANTASTIC WHEN.
LIT, THERE WAS RELATIVELY FAST.
TRANSITION OF COLOUR AND WE RECOGNIZED RATHER VERY EARLY ON THAT.
IT WAS DISTRACTING TO DRIVERS.
AS WELL AS INDIVIDUALS WERE ACTUALLY GOING WITH THE WEB TRAFFIC LIGHTS SO.
WE TONED IT DOWN QUITE A BIT. AT WHAT POINT DO WE KNOW THAT SOMETHING BECOMES A.
DISTRACTION AND ALSO THEN MAKE A.
QUICK MODIFICATION? I THINK THE CONCERN THAT I SEE.
IS THE TECHNOLOGY IS FAIRLY.
NEW.IT ' S CERTAINLY NEW TO CALGARY. AS WELL AS SAFETY FOR DRIVERS IS.
VITAL AND CONVENIENCE FOR OUR LOCALS IS ALSO PARAMOUNT. SO AT WHAT POINT DO WE KNOW.
WHEN WE'' RE CREATING A DRIVING DISTURBANCE AND ALSO
ARE ABLE TO. ADJUST? OR CREATING A DISTRACTION FOR OUR RESIDENTS?
>> > > I AGREE WITH YOU
THAT. ORIGINALLY WHEN THE LANGEVIN BRIDGE WAS FIRST INSTALLED,.
DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT CAME AS.
PRE-PROGRAMED TO MEET THE ROUTINE SO THERE WAS SOME.
FLASHING WHICH WE SAID THIS IS.
NOT ACCEPTABLE AND IT HAS TO BE ALTERED, FOR CURRENTLY WHAT IT IS,.
IT'' S LIKE 06 SECOND. TRANSITIONS WE HAVE GIVEN AND ALSO THERE IS NO FLASHING OR SUDDEN.
ADJUSTMENT. IT'' S ALL– LIKE IT ' S SEAMLESS SHIFT TO ENSURE THAT METHOD ANYONE WHO.
IS DRIVING OR WHOEVER IS.
STAYING IN THE NEIGHBORING HOUSE IS NOT.
DISTURBED BY THE ILLUMINATION. THE CONCEPT BELOW IS THAT PERSONS OUGHT TO ENJOY REMAINING IN THE.
SETTING INSTEAD OF.
OBTAINING, YOU UNDERSTAND, DISTURBED OR CAUSING SAFETY PROBLEMS. THAT HAS BEEN FIXED.
YES WE HAD CHANGED THAT FROM 2 SECONDS TO 60 SECTS AND IT.
WORKS FINE.
>> > > OKAY, THANK YOU.I WOULD AGREE. CURRENTLY, MY ISSUE BESIDES THE.
DISTRACTED MOTORIST, BECAUSE WHEN I DISCOVERED TO DRIVE, I.
WAS TOLD DRIVE WHEN YOU'' RE. DRIVING AS WELL AS CURRENTLY I THINK THERE ' S KIND OF A GENERAL.
IDEA THAT YOU CANISTER DO ALL.
KIND OF OTHER THINGS WHILE YOU'' RE DRIVING. SO IN THE MEANTIME OF PERMANENT.
POLICIES, WE REQUIREMENT TO KNOW WHEN THESE DETAILS ARE DISTRACTING T.
THEY'' RE MEANT TO DISTRACT TO A.
CERTAIN POINT, AND HOW MUCH I IS–.
JUST HOW MUCH DISTRACTION IS.
REASONABLE? AND I'' M UNCERTAIN IF WE UNDERSTAND.
THE RESPONSE TO THAT, BECAUSE. THE REACTION I ' M HEARING IS ANY RESEARCHES ARE INCLUSIVE. SO– BUT I BELIEVE THAT ' S A. WHOLE POINT OF HAVING INTERIM ACTIONS, IS WE CONTAINER CONTINUE.
TO STUDY IT FURTHER.
>> > > SO AS FAR AS SDWRESH WHOMEVER WANTS TO RESPONSE THAT.
AS WELL AS I'' M NOT CERTAIN IF WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ADDRESSED AFTER MIDDAY. > > WE ARE CONTINUING WITH THE ANSWER? > > MAYBE I'' LL CLARIFY THAT.A NUMBER OF CITIES ACROSS.
NORTH AMERICA, HUGE.
CITIES, HAVE OUTLAWED THESE THINGS OUTRIGHT. > > OUR PROOF IS THE.
CONTRARY. AND THAT'' S WHY WE ' RE.
OFFERING THE BUNDLE AS WELL AS YOU. CAN SEE THAT 40 STATES PERMIT THESE INDICATIONS, A SUBSTANTIAL.
NUMBER OF STATES, A NUMBER OF.
STESMTS AS WELL AS A LOT OF CITIES THAT WE FOUND THAT WERE PROHIBITED.
ALREADY PROHIBITED BILLBOARDS IN.
GENERAL. SO THEY'' VE ALREADY SIMPLY TAKEN. IT THE NATURAL ACTION, THEY.
ALREADY DON'' T ALLOW BILLBOARDS SO THEY ' RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW.
LITTLE BOARDS ALSO. IN THOSE CITIES THAT MAY HAVE PROHIBITED DIGITAL WE DON'' T KNOW.
OF ANY THAT HAVE ACTUALLY OUTLAWED IT. AS A RESULT OF THE SAVOR DISTRACTION PROBLEM.
THE OBSTACLE, AS WELL AS I ' LL LET. BRUCE FOLLOW UP AS WELL, THERE ' S NUMEROUS DISTURBANCES. BOTH INSIDE AS WELL AS OUTSIDE THE.
> > THERE ' S A WHOLE LOT, CONCURRED. AND THAT'' S WHY THE RESEARCHES HAVE PROBABLY DISCOVERED THEM TO BE.
INCLUSIVE. THE RESEARCHES COME BACK AND ALSO SAY THEY'' RE SAFETY NEUTRAL,.
THEY'' RE NO DIFFERENT THAN A. CRITERION BILLBOARD, NO DIFFERENT THAN A TIM HORTON'' S. ID INDICATION, NO VARIOUS THAN A. CITY INDICATION THAT SAYS 300m Leave FOR BARLOW TRAIL. AND ALSO OTHER RESEARCH STUDIES HAVE ACTUALLY REVEALED–.
AND AFTERWARDS CERTAINLY THERE'' S NUMEROUS DIVERSIONS INSIDE.
THE VEHICLE AND ALSO NATURALLY SOME.
JURISDICTIONS, AS ALBERTA HAS DONE AS WELL, IS THE CELLULAR.
PHONE OBVIOUSLY AS WELL AS IT'' S. COMING FOR YOU CURRENTLY BEFORE– SO IN SOLUTION TO YOUR INQUIRY,.
THOUGH, THERE''
S–. THE DIVERSION HAS NOT BEEN SHOWN EFFECTIVELY TO BE–.
FOR SIGNBOARDS, WHETHER STATI.
FIXED– WHETHER CONVENTIONAL OR.
DIGITAL. VIDEO YES, THERE HAVE BEEN RESEARCHES THAT SHOW THAT VIDEO CLIP.
MOVEMENT–.
A STUDY WAS DONE BY A GIRL FOR TORONTO ACTUALLY, HALF A DOZEN.
SIGNBOARDS, ONE OF THE STUDIES.
WE PRESENTED TO MANAGEMENT, AND THEY CAME BACK AND ALSO.
CONCLUDED THAT OF COURSE, THE VIDEO CLIP.
MOTION GAERNED MORE FOCUS BUT THAT'' S NEVER BEEN
>> OUR.
NEED. > > OKAY, THANK YOU.SO THERE ' S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
IN BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND ALSO.
HOUSE DEVICE. AND I LEAVE ALDERMAN POOTMANS.
TO ASK THAT CONCERN, BUT IT''. IT ' S– WE ' RE DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN.
THE RIGHT TO LIVE WITHOUT.
LIGHT TRESPASS FOR MULTI-FAMILY AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL.
DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE SINGLE.
FAMILY. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS IT IS A.
PRETTY IMPORTANT POINT TO.
CLARIFY. I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERNED.
PEOPLE WHO–.
WE'' VE GOT HALLWAY STUDIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN WHICH.
WE'' RE TRYING TO MOTIVATE.
INDIVIDUALS TO MOVE RIGHT INTO FUTURE I HOUSEHOLD AND ALSO IN SOME WAY WE THINK.
THAT THEIR RIGHT TO DEAL WITH AND ALSO.
QUIET AS WELL AS THOSE POINTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE CIVIL LIBERTIES OF.
THOSE IN SOLITARY HOUSEHOLD. AND I HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT. BUT MULTI-FAMILY–.
16th AVENUE, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF POWER, FAIR.
QUANTITY OF CASH CHANGING THE.
ZONING AND THE FEELINGS OF 16th AVENUE TO ENCOURAGE.
MULTI-FAMILY. THEREFORE ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT THE DISTANCE MUST BE.
VARIOUS FOR– MUST WE.
ALLOW AMONG THESE UNITS ACROSS THE STREET OR EVEN.
NEXT DOOR DEALING WITH A.
MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING UNITSYSTEM >> > > NO, WE WOULD NOT ASSISTANCE.
>> THAT. > > SO HOW CANISTER WE DIFFERENTIATE IN THE BUY PLAY THAT THAT'' S. NOT THE INTENT?
>> > > SINCE IN THE LAW WHAT WE'' RE PROPOSING IS– YOUR.
SCENARIO SIMPLY CALLED A.
SIGN ORIENTATED AS WELL AS DEALING WITH RESIDENTIAL SO IT WOULD HAVE.
AN IMPACT.
>> > > A RESIDENCE SYSTEM
>>. > > YEAH, A HOUSE DEVICE. AND WHAT OUR THEY'' VE GONE THE.
SEVERE TECHNIQUE. THESE ARE ALL ACTING POLICIES SO.
WE ARE GOING TO BE SITTING.
DOWN AS YOU RECOGNIZE OVER THE NEXT TWELVE MONTHS AS WELL AS OUR ISSUE.
IS THEY'' VE TAKEN THE EXTREME.
TECHNIQUE OF 300m FROM A STRUCTURE INCLUDED OR RESIDENCE.
SYSTEM AND AS WE USE INSTANCES.
THROUGHOUT OUR DISCUSSION WAS IF An INDICATOR IS NOT VISIBLE.
AND ALSO TOPOGRAPHY BLOCKS THE SIGN.
SO WE COULD BE LOWER AS WELL AS– OR THE RESIDENTIAL COULD BE.
LOWER, LISTED BELOW THE QUALITY, IF.
IT'' S NOT NOTICEABLE, AFTER THAT WHY IS THE CITY BEING IF YOU WILL.
HANDICAPPED WITH THAT SAID STRAIGHT.
300m Without SENSE OF DISCRETION, NO SENSE OF EVEN.
ALLOWING IT TO BE RELAXED? THEY'' VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR. IF WE'' RE ALONG 16th AVENUE.
AND 16th AVENUE MULTI-FAMILY.
TEND TO BE JUST BEHIND, THERE'' S USUALLY INDUSTRIAL ON.
BOTH SIDES OF 16th Method, IN.
MY EXPERIENCE– >> > > WELL, 16th AVENUE HAS BEEN.
COMPLETELY REZONED TO.
ENCOURAGE RELATIVELY SIGNIFICANT ZONING.
> > IT ' S IT ' S SOMETHING WE DO NOW. > > THERE ' S NO CONCERN FROM AN. > > THAT ' S INTERESTING BECAUSE DOWNTOWN IS A COMBINED USE LOCATION,. > > THERE ' S A WHOLE LOT, AGREED. > > O.K., THANK YOU.SO THERE ' S A BIG DISTINCTION.IT WAS PART OF THE WHOLE–
IT PREDATES INTENDING BUT IT RESULTED IN OUR CONTEMPORARY VIEW
OF AN URBAN HALLWAY, WHERE
IT'' S VERY SIMPLE FOR United States. EXISTING BYLAW DOES NOT ALLOW IT AS WELL AS WE WOULD NOT ALLOW IT. MY SUGGESTION WAS TAKE A.
MEASUREMENT FROM THE FRONT OF.
THE INDICATOR, GO 100m, IF THERE'' S NO RESIDENTIAL WITHIN 100m. SDWRESH AND ALSO BY RESIDENTIAL.
YOU'' RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSE PUPILS > > HOUSE SYSTEM,.
SORRY F THERE'' S A RESIDENCE. SYSTEM WITHIN 100m OF THE INDICATOR UNOBSTRUCTED AFTER THAT THE.
BILLBOARD SHOULD NOT BE.
ALLOWED.
>> > > I HAVE A PAIRS OF OTHER–.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WE'' RE. GOING TO QUIT THERE, LUNCH BREAK, LUNCH BREAK. WE'' LL BE BACK AT 1:20. ALDERMAN FARRELL, YOU WILL STILL HAVE THE FLOORING. ALL RIGHT? CAPTIONING OF THIS CONFERENCE IS SUPPLIED AS A COMMUNICATION.
ACCESSIBILITY MEASURE AND IS.
NOT INTENDED AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE PROCESS. IT MAY if ERRORS OCCUR.
BE DUE TO HUMAN BEING MISTAKE, TECHNOLOGICAL TROUBLES.
OR AN FAILURE ON THE COMPONENT.
OF THE WRITER TO LISTEN TO OR UNDERSTAND.
WHAT IS BEING CLAIMED. WHILE BEST SHOT ARE MADE TO DOCUMENT AS CLOSELY AS.
POSSIBLE WHAT IS BEING CLAIMED,.
LICENSED ACCURATE DOCUMENT OF THE PROCESS. CAPTIONING OF THIS MEETING IS.
GIVEN AS An INTERACTION ACCESS MEASURE, AND ALSO IS.
NOT INTENDED AS A VERBATIM.
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PROCEEDINGS.IF MISTAKES
HAPPEN, IT MAY BE. BECAUSE OF PERSON ERROR, TECHNICAL. TROUBLES OR AN FAILURE ON THE PART OF THE WRITER TO HEAR. OR UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING.
STATED. WHILE BEST SHOT ARE MADE TO. RECORD AS CAREFULLY AS POSSIBLE.
WHAT IS BEING SAID, THE SUBTITLES CANISTER NOT BE TRUSTED AS A. CERTIFIED ACCURATE RECORD OF THE.
PROCEEDINGS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:
AND. >> WE ' RE BACK.
[> > THANK YOU. I ASSUME I ' M DOWN
TO ONE MORE. THIS IS A FAST ONE.
SQUARE IN TORONTO IN WHICH THEY ' VE.
GOT– DUNDAS SQUARE.I KNOW WE ' VE BEEN TALKING–. PART OF THE CENTRE CITY TEAM HAS. BEEN TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE REGULATIONS TO ALLOW CONCENTRATED AREA.
OF THE MIDTOWN WHERE WE WOULD. LOOSEN UP OUR INDICATOR LAW WITHIN PARTICULAR PARAMETERS. ARE YOU FUNCTIONING WITH.
ADMINISTRATION ON THAT? >> > > TODAY, NO. THE VERY FIRST STEP IS COLLECTION OF RULES.
AS WELL AS STANDARDS THAT BOTH MANAGEMENT AND SECTOR CANISTER.
FUNCTION WITH JUST THE HERE AND NOW GUIDELINE.
FOR DIGITAL WHICH ARE STATIC. I ASSUME THAT WE'' RE REFERRING TO.
THE TIMES and also dundass SQUARES OF.
THE GLOBE IS A VARIOUS ANIMAL COMPLETELY. VARIOUS INDICATORS. EVEN MORE VIDEO. >> > > I HEARD IT BROUGHT UP
BY. ALDERMAN'LOWE. I WEAR ' T WANT TO PUZZLE THE MATTER>. > > ONE DAY THAT MAY COME UP. AS OF TODAY NO, THERE'' S NO TALK OF IT, NO ASSIGNED LOCATION. WE REQUIRE A LOT OF.
STAKEHOLDERS, LANDLORDS, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION,.
THOSE KIND OF MATTERS AS WELL AS THAT.
WOULD BE DOWN THE ROAD. >> > > O.K..
>> THANKS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS, ALDERMAN FARRELL. WE ' LL LET ALDERMAN DEMONG
GET.
BACK TO HIS SEAT.THERE WE GO.
>> ALDERMAN DEMONG. >'> AND I RECOGNIZE IT ' S MY SOMEWHAT LACK OF KNOWLEDGE WITH REGARDS. TO NITS VERSUS ILLUMINATED AND. LUMINATION. CONTAINER YOU GIVE ME SOME KIND OF.
REFERRAL TO THE OLD-STYLE.
SIGNBOARD WHERE WE SHONE A BIG SPOTLIGHT ON THE BILLBOARD HOW.
THAT CONTRASTS TO THE 5,000.
FLASH, 200 NITS THAT YOU'' RE OFFERING.
>> > >'IT ' S 5,000 NITS THROUGHOUT THE. DAY AS WELL AS 500 IN THE EVENING ARE THE MAXIMUM LEVELS ALLOWED.
>> > > SIGNBOARDS, IT WOULD BE LESS,.
MUCH LESS COMPARED TO DIGITAL. BECAUSE THERE IS NO DIMMING IN.
INSTANCE OF– IT'' S NOT BUMPED UP.
DURING THE DAYTIME. >> > > THAT ' S CORRECT.
IT IS– THE LIGHTS IS NOT. MADE TO BE PERHAPS LOWER OR HIGHER, JUST A STRAIGHT.
HALOTHANE BULB.
>> > > I RECOGNIZE THAT.IN MY OWN MIND I'' M TRYING
TO. ENVISION WHETHER THE.
ILLUMINATIONS– I UNDERSTAND THROUGHOUT THE DAY IT'' S NOT GOING TO MAKE A. GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE. BUT AT EVENING IS IT GOING TO MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN.
THE 500 NITS YOU'' RE ALLOWED AND. THE LUMINENCE OF THE SPOTLIGHTED BILLBOARD CRITERION.
>> > > IF YOU ' RE EVALUATING THE.
ELECTRONIC WITH THE CONVENTION, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. THE DIGITAL IS MUCH EVEN MORE.
MORE VIBRANT COMPARED TO THE CONVENTIONAL.
>> > > OK. THAT QUITE MUCH RESPONSES THAT.NOW, I WAS
CURIOUS, YOU GUYS HAD.
TWO VARIOUS SCREENS GOING.
WITH REGARDS TO THE CHANGING OF THE– ON YOUR DIGITALS. THE FIRST ONE THAT WAS GOING.
THROUGH NEAR– I'' M UNCERTAIN WHERE IT WAS AND ALSO THE SECOND ONE.
WHERE YOU HAD THEM SIDE BY SIDE. WAS THERE A DISTINCTION IN THE TIME FRAMEWORK IN THE CHANGING OF.
THE IMAGES BETWEEN THOSE TWO?
>> > > YES. YES, THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL.
DISTINCTION WHICH'' S WHY WE
. THINK THE DIGITAL'' S A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT.
>> > > NO, SO I'' M CLEAR, THE. ORIGINAL DIGITAL THA THAT YOU SD US VERSUS THE SECOND DIGITAL YOU.
SHOWED United States, WAS THERE A.
DISTINCTION? WAS ONE A. 2 SECOND CHANGE AND.
THE SECONDLY ONE WAS A. 8 SECONDLY.
ALTER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR DID YOU INDIVIDUALS MAKE KEEP IN MIND OF IT AT.
ALL?
>> > > NO, WE DIDN'' T MAKE NOTE.BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALL THE.
SIGNS WE'' VE ORDERED ARE ON THE. VERY SAME MODEL AND ALSO SHIFT TIME.
IN EDMONTON, AND ALSO THE VERY FIRST ONE WE SHOWED McKNIGHT.
BOULEVARD THAT WE'' RE SHOWING.
MUST BE OPERATING ON THE EXACT SAME CONCEPT.
>> > > THEY WERE OPERATING ON THE.
EXACT SAME PRINCIPLE. IT PRACTICALLY SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS.
A DISTINCTION TO MY EYE, ONE.
APPEARED TO BE DOING A MUCH QUICKER MODIFICATION THAN THE OTHER.
ONE. OPTIC? >> > > YES. AS WELL AS PERHAPS ONE IS OFF A BIT. IT CAN BE EXAMINED. NO, I PUT ON'' T HAVE THAT RESPONSE. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE 2 DIFFERENT.
INDICATIONS, TWO DIFFERENT CITIES, MOUNTED AT TWO VARIOUS.
TIMES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE RUNNING THE SAME.
MODEL NO MATTER IN WHICH THEY.
ARE OR WHEN THEY'' RE GOT. >> > > THAT McKNIGHT INDICATION IS 6.
SECS. WE'' VE EXAMINED AND RECHECKED. > >> I MEANT THE TRANSITION TIME.
IN BETWEEN THE CHANGING OF THE.
PHOTOS. >> > > THEY OUGHT TO COINCIDE.
>> > > ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.NICE AND EASY.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN DEMONG. ALDERMAN STEVENSON. DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE TWO INDICATIONS.
THAT ARE ON AIRPORT TERMINAL PROPERTY. IS THAT? ONE ON BARLOW AND ONE ON AIRPORT.
PATH? >> > > FOR DIGITAL, CORRECT. WE HAVE A VARIETY OF SIGNS ON.
FLIGHT TERMINAL LAND. ONLY TWO SIGNS, CORRECT, ONE.
ON AIRPORT TERMINAL PATH AS WELL AS ONE AT.
BARLOW ROUTE AS WELL AS AIRPORT TERMINAL ROAD, THE ENTRY INTO THE AIRPORT.
ARE 2 AREAS THAT HAVE.
DIGITAL BILLBOARDS. >> > > SO NEITHER ONE OF THEM.
IF THIS GOES THROUGH, will–.
NEITHER ONE OF THOSE WILL BE ABLE TO STAY AFTER THAT?
>> > > THAT– THE POLICIES OF.
THE CITY– THE FLIGHT TERMINAL FOLLOWS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THOSE WERE APPLIED TO THE CALGARY AIRPORT AUTHORITY.
AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, AS YOU'' RE POSSIBLY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT, AND ALSO SO.
THEN WE GOT DIRECTED BY THE.
AIRPORT.WE APPLIED TO THE
CITY AND ALSO THE.
CITY GAVE US A PENALT LICENSE RESTRICTION.
THE AIRPORT'' S SUGGESTION. THE LAW TODAY, WHATEVER IS.
PASSED TODAY WOULD NOT EFFECT.
THOSE INDICATORS CURRENTLY OR LATER. >> > > I TIN UNDERSTAND THE ONE AT.
BARLOW TRAIL AS WELL AS AIRPORT TERMINAL ROAD. BECAUSE THAT'' S ON– IT ' S NOT FACING A CITY STREET.
THE ONE THAT ' S ON AIRPORT TERMINAL. ROUTE OR 96th', IT STATES IN BELOW THAT THEY
' LL BE PROHIBITED FROM.
OVER TO BARLOW PATH. > > IN THIS INSTANCE IT DOESN ' T DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT ' S ON AIRPORT LANDS. AS WELL AS HAS A SEPARATE LAND USE.
AGREEMENT.SO ALL OTHER LANDS BEYOND. FLIGHT TERMINAL LANDS WOULD MEET THAT. POLICY WHICH IS CORRECT.
THEY ' RE ALL EXCLUSIVE LANDS AND. DON ' T MEET THE BYLAW ON THE SOUTH SIDE BECAUSE OF THE.
SEPARATE LAND USE CONTRACT THE. AIRPORT MAY TO DEAL WITH THE CITY AND ALSO THE INDUSTRY TO PUT. LANDS UP. > > THANK YOU.
>> THANKS, YOUR PRAYER.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK. YOU, ALDERMAN STEVENSON. FOLKS,'I ASSUME WE ' RE DONE WITH. YOU IN THE MEANTIME. THANK YOU SIGNIFICANTLY.
WE ' RE STILL IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC. HEARING, THOUGH, SO EXISTS. ANY PERSON ELSE THAT WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS? ANY PERSON ELSE WHO WOULD LOVE TO. TALK IN OPPOSITION>>?'THERE WAS NO ONE WHO SPOKE IN. FAVOUR. > > I ' M JUST GOING TO LEAVE SOMETHING BELOW. ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS IN FAVOUR OF. OUR SETTING, YOUR PRAYER, AND ALSO PARTICIPANTS OF LITTLE. SHE WAS UNABLE TO REMAIN FOR THE.
PRESENTATION. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: BE CANISTER. DISPERSE THOSE.O > > YOUR PRAISE, MEMBERS OF.
COUNCIL, MY NAME IS OWEN CRAIG,.
I'' M WITH BELTLINE PLANNING TEAM. I WOULD LOVE TO SEND A LETTER.
AS WELL AS PREVIOUS SUMMARIES OF THE STUDY THAT WE'' VE CONDUCTED. > > THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'' D LIKE TO USE AND BE UP FRONT AS WELL AS INDICATE I ' D LIKES TO USE AN
.
OF OUR STANCE ON SIGNBOARD AND VEHICULAR SCALED THIRD EVENT.
ADVERTISING AND MARKETING AND ALSO DRILL DOWN ON.
THE DETAILS AS WELL AS LAND ON THE PROBLEMS HANDY FOR THE CHANGE.
PROPOSED. IF YOU'' LL ALLOW ME THAT INDULGENCE I'' D LIKE TO THAT. I WILL READ FROM THE LETTER THAT.
MIRRORS BELTLINE NEIGHBORHOOD ' S. BEST UNDERSTANDING OF THE MAJORITY PERSPECTIVE ON. THIS VIEW IS AMASSED FROM TEN YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OF COMMUNITY.
SCALED THIRD CELEBRATION MARKETING IN OUR AREA. BELTLINE COMMUNITIES HAS. EMPLOYED A STUDY TO SHOW THE LEGITIMACY OF ITS PLACEMENT. WE HAVE GOT HAD 149.
FEEDBACKS, OVERWHELMING IN ARRANGEMENT THAT BILLBOARDS.
IN THE BELTLINE. IT MOTIVATING THE CITY OF.
CALGARY TO BAN ALL VEHICULAR SCALED BILLBOARDS WITHIN THE.
BELTLINE AREA AREA. AND ALSO I'' D LIKE TO BE EXTREMELY CLEAR, WE'' RE CONCENTRATING ON THE VEHICULAR.
SCALE BILLBOARD CIRCUMSTANCE AND NOT.
THE KIOSK OR SMALLER SERVICE ORIENTED INDICATIONS. AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONTINUES TO.
FULLY GROWN AND END UP BEING MORE MIXED USAGE, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE.
INDICATORS RUNS COUNTER IN THE.
PLAN FOR THE BELTLINE, BELTLINE ARP AND ALSO CITY CENTRE.
LAND USE AREA. DISTRACTING LIGHT POLLUTION DISCHARGED FROM THESE SIGNS HAS THE.
IMPACT TO LIMIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CURRENTLY, IF YOU TAKE THAT AND ALSO AMPLIFY IT ON A SCALE OF 10 AND ALSO.
PUT IT OUTSIDE A CONDOMINIUM.
THAT MAY HAVE 230 DEVICES, AT 1.5 INDIVIDUALS PER SYSTEM THAT EXERCISES.
TO BE CONCERNING 400 TO 500 CITIZENS.
FAIRLY EASILY.THAT CAN BE EXPONENTIALLY MORE. FRUSTRATING.
AND ALSO NOW ENVISION A SINGLE HOUSEHOLD HOME OR HOME THAT HAS An INDICATOR.
RESULTS ONE OR TW TWO OR 3,.
4 INDIVIDUALS ON THE STREET, YOU PUT THAT IN THE BELTLINE IT CONTAINER.
IMPACT 500 TO A THOUSAND INDIVIDUALS.
WITH ONE INDICATOR NO MATTER LIGHTING. FURTHER VEHICULAR SCALED SCALED.
INDICATIONS ARE WHOLLY UNACCEPTABLE. BELTLINE HAS NO DISCUSSION IN.
REGULATORY OF DIGITAL BILL.
BOARDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT. THEY ARE DEVELOPED TO RECORD.
FOCUS. THEY WOULD NOT BE UTILIZEDY.
IF THAT WAS NOT THE, industry.
CASE.DESPITE THE TRUTH THE SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH IS.
NOT THERE, I BELIEVE WE ALL HAVE.
COMMON SENSE SUFFICIENT TO KNOW THERE IS AN ADDED DISTURBANCE TO.
THE MOTORISTS AND WHAT IS THE.
TIPPING POINT BETWEEN CELLPHONES, CHILDREN IN THE BACK AS WELL AS.
WEBSITE TRAFFIC SIGNS WITH REGARD TO.
DIGITAL SIGNS? AND WHAT I'' D LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH NOW IS. INDICATE WHILE OUR STANCE IS NOT.
SUPPORT THE MODIFICATION SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'' S A THIRD EVENT. MODIFICATION FOR THIRD CELEBRATION. MARKETING OF An AUTOMOBILE SCALE IN NATURE, WE ARE AIMING TO.
PRODUCE APPROPRIATELY SCALED.
ADVANCEMENTS IN THE BELTLINE AS WELL AS CENTRE CITY. WE THINK THOSE SORT OF SIGNS ARE.
PROPER FOR AUTOMOBILE USAGE AND ALSO EXCEPT AREAS THAT HAVE.
CREATING BURGEONING PEDESTRIAN.
ENVIRONMENTS.SIMPLY PUT, THEY ARE An AFFLICTION ON. OUR PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED URBAN.
AREA. I ' D LIKE TO
SHOW TO YOU A. COUPLE AUDIO BITES FROM THE.
WE HAD 149 INDIVIDUALS RESPOND TO THE. 70 LIVED IN THE BELTLINE, 79.
THE BELTLINE. AS WELL AS THIS IS LEADING TO THE.
INQUIRY OF DIGITAL INDICATOR.
PROLIVELATION AND ALSO SIGNBOARD PROLIFERATION GENERALLY. LOOKING FOR OF THE LEISURE TO 150.
METRES. NO MATTER WHETHER YOU CAN.
SEE THE INDICATION OR OTHERWISE THE SIGNS.
HAVE A PEDESTRIAN and mental RANGE EFFECT ON.
AREA THAT WE THINK ARE.
INAPPROPRIATE FOR AREAS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO AIM TO PRODUCE.
PREMIUM QUALITY PEDESTRIAN SCALE.
BELTLINE AS IT GROWS
CANCANISTER DEVELOP SUCH THAT WE CAN PUSH THOSE INDICATORS TO OTHER AREAS. PROGRAM APPRECIATE THE SIGNAGE THAT IDENTIFIES A STORE,.
THE BILLBOARDS, NEVERTHELESS, ARE AN EYESORE AND ALSO A SECURITY DANGER. THIS IS ESPECIALLY RESPECT TO. DIGITAL BILLBOARDS SUBJECT TO WITH EVER CHANGING MATERIAL AND ALSO. DESIGN THEY ADDITIONALLY CHANGE THE ENTIRE.
LOOK OF THE AREA IN AN EVER NEW MEANS AS WELL AS DOWNSIDE. METHOD.
THERE ARE ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES FOR NEW BUILDING.
WHICH ARE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY
. THE BILLBOARDSES. BILLBOARDS DETRACT AND WOULDN'' T. BE PERMITTED BY OTHER.
COMMUNITIES.EITHER SMALLER SCALED. PROMOTIONS OR BETTER RANGE.
ALDERMAN MAR? > > THANTHANTHANK YOU FOR BEING O. PATIENT THIS MID-DAY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE CAN SPEND SOME TIME. SO TODAY THE OVERALL CONVERSATION.
IS REALLY MORE CENTRED AROUND DIGITAL VERSUS NONDIGITAL.
SIGNAGE, NOT NECESSARILY WHERE.
IT OUGHT TO REMAIN IN REGARDS TO THE AREA BUT REALLY THE DIGITAL.
VERSUS NONDIGITAL DEBATE. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. HAVE I A COUPLE FOLLOWUP.
QUESTIONS. IN YOUR DISCUSSION A MINUTE A LITTLE YOU HAD ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THE.
BELTLINE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.
WOULD BE OPPOSED TO AUTOMOBILE-SCALED SIGNS. THE CRITERION 10 FEET BY.
20 FEET? 10 FEET BY 20 SIGNAGE IN THE.
BELTLINE DISTRICT OVERALL,.
WHETHER OR NOT IT IS A STATIC PAPER SIGN OR THOSE SLICKY.
TRIANGULAR ONES OR DIGITAL. IS THAT CORRECT? >> > > THAT ' S CORRECT
>>. > > SO DESPITE THE KIND'OF. INDICATION, WHETHER IT ' S DIGITAL OR OTHERWISE DIGITAL TODAY YOU ' RE.
REALLY SIMPLY SAYING THAT IN YOUR.
SPECIFIC LOCATION, IN THE BELTLINE, DUE TO THE FACT THAT OF THE. THICKNESS, AND ALSO BECAUSE OF THE. IMPACT THAT IT HAS VISUALLY ON MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS REGARDLESS.
> > CORRECT. TO SPECIFICS RELATED TO DIGITAL SIGNS, BUT YES. > > AND ALSO THAT WAS MY REMARK.
PARTICULARLY REGARDING DIGITAL, I.
JUST DESIRED TO REMIND YOU OF THAT AND OBTAIN YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
INFORMATION. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
> > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER. > > OWEN CRAIG. > > SO CRAIG BEING THE LAST NAME.
TO APPARENTLY ALDERMEN NOW, BUT.
> > IN REALITY I BELIEVE YOU
TOLD ME. Mr. CRAIG, SO, THE EXISTING BILLBOARDS, YOU ' RE NOT EXCESSIVELY.
DELIGHTED WITH THOSE EITHER.
>> > > CORRECT. WE ' RE NOT ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT.
THEM. WE'' RE IN A PLACEMENT WHERE THE BELTLINE IS DEVELOPING MUCH FASTER. THAN THE LAW CONTAINER. TO ASSIST SUPPLY BETTER SUITED GUIDELINES FOR RESIDENCE UNITS IN.
DISTANCE TO THESE KINDS OF.
SIGN.
>> > > SO IF THEY ' RE ILLUMINATED, IT
. PRESENTS A COMPARABLE DIFFICULTY TO.
WHAT THE DIGITAL SIGNS COULD– >> > > CORRECT. YES.
>> > > YOU REFER TO THE OVERANXIOUS– OR OVER ABUNDANT.
NETWORK CHANGER. BUT WHAT'' S BEING RECOMMENDED HERE IS A FIXED DISPLAY SCREEN WITH.
POSSIBLY SIX-SECOND.
PERIODS, WHAT'' S RECOMMENDED IS 10-SECOND INTERVALS. IT WOULDN'' T REALLY PARTNER. THAT WITH FULL MOVEMENT VIDEO CLIP AND ALSO AN EXUBERANT NETWORK CHANGER. I ASSUME THAT MAY BE A LITTLE.
EXTREME, WOULDN'' T YOU >> STATE? > > WELL, DEPENDING UPON HOW FAST.
YOU TRANSFORM CHANNELS, IT LOOKS.
IF YOU CAPTURE ONE STRUCTURE PER SECONDLY, rather TACTICAL TO ME. THE ILLUSTRATION IS THE STRAIGHTFORWARD.
INSTANCE OF IS YOU HAVE ACTUALLY AN ILLUMINATED THINGS OUTSIDE A.
RESIDENCE WINDOW AND ALSO THEY'' RE
NOT. IN CONTROL OF WHAT ' S BEING SHOWN. THEY WATCH OUT THEIR HOME WINDOW AT.
ANY FACTOR IN THE DAY AND HAVE NO OPTION OR CAPABILITY TO ADAPT TO.
THAT. WE THINK THERE ARE SOME PARALLELS, WHILE THEY MAY NOT BE.
EXACTLY DIRECT, I THINK THE.
ANALOGY IS STILL VALID.
>> > > YOU POINTED OUT HUMAN-SCALE.
PEDESTRIAN-TYPE OF ADVANCEMENT. SO ARE YOU THROUGH CLAIMING THAT ARGUING THAT THERE''
S NO. PEDESTRIAN CAPABILITY.
CONNECTED WITH WHAT YOU CALL VEHICLE ORIENTED TYPE.
BILLBOARDS?
>> > > THE SIGNAGE IS DEVELOPED BY INDUSTRY TO BE DEPLOYED AT.
HIGH-CAPACITY CAR.
HIGHWAYS. THEIR SIZE, PROXIMITY, THICKNESS.
AND SCALE OF ADVERTISING AND MARKETING TYPE.
FONT AND THE TECHNIQUE THEY USE FOR THE DUPLICATE IS SPECIFICALLY.
TARGETED TOWARDS AUTOS AND.
NOT PEDESTRIANS AND I THINK THAT WE'' D BE DECEIVING OURSELVES TO.
THINK OTHERWISE. ARE ISSUE HANDY WITH– OUR ISSUE AVAILABLE WITH THOSE IS.
WHILE WE DON'' T REJECT.
MARKETING THAT'' S OF THE PEDESTRIAN'SCALE THAT ' S BEEN. DEVELOPED FOR PEOPLE TO SEE ON.
THE WALKWAY, WE THINK OUR NEIGHBOURHOODS HAVE MATURED.
SPECIALTY THE BELTLINE SO THE.
ELECTRIC MOTOR AUTOMOBILE IS N NO MORE THE PRIMARY ADVERTISING AND MARKETING.
DEMOGRAPHIC.
>> > > ASSUMPTION IT'' S A MATTER OF POINT OF VIEW DUE TO THE FACT THAT I WOULD ARGUE I.
SEE UPPER LEGS BILLBOARDS A WHOLE LOT MORE.
WHEN I'' M WALKING THAN I DO WHEN I'' M DRIVING. THAT'' S ME DIRECTLY. I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION BELOW TODAY AS WELL AS ARTICULATING THE.
VIEWPOINT OF YOUR COMMUNITY. > > IF I MIGHT, YOUR WORSHIP,.
YOU'' RE A PEDESTRIAN IS IN REALITY. THE TREASURE AT THE HEART OF THE DISCUSSION WHICH'' S
THE. PROBLEM THAT WE DO HAVE AS THE.
BELTLINE IS AS INDIVIDUALS SLOW DOWN AND ALSO STROLL, IT'' S NOT JUST. SOMETHING THAT INFLUENCES VEHICLE DRIVER.
SAFETY AS WELL AS ILLUMINATION. THAT'' S An EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF.
>> OUR ARGUMENT. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: MANY THANKS, Mr. CRAIG. ALDERMAN FARRELL?
>> > > THANK YOU FOR BEING BELOW TODAY, Mr. CRAIG. SO YOU SEE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN.
THE BELTLINE AS WELL AS MACLEOD ROUTE, AS AN EXAMPLE.
>> > > YES. >> WE DO. > > CURRENTLY, THE BELTLINE
, I ' D BE. VERY SHOCKED IF YOUR ARP. DOESN ' T HAVE SOME CONSTRAINTS AROUND AUTO ORIENTED SIGNAGE.
>> > > IT DOES, YES
>>.
> > IT DOES.SO YOU ' RE STRESSED OVER THE.
MIGRATION OF EXISTING SIGNBOARD.
SIGNAGE TO DIGITAL OR SPREADING? I PUT ON'' T THINK WITH THESE
REGULATIONS. WE WOULD ALLOW ADDITIONAL. BUT MAYBE THAT'' S SOMETHING TO BE.
MADE CLEAR.
>> > >'WE ' RE CONCERNED ABOUT I THINK ONE EXTREMELY IMPORTANTLY, YES, THE.
PROLIFERATION, CONVERSION OF. EXISTING INDICATIONS TO DIGITAL. WE ' RE CONCERNED ABOUT AS OUR.
AREA GROWS AS WELL AS.
RESIDENTIAL AND HOUSE PROJECTS ARE BROUGHT ON LINE IN.
VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF THEBELT LINE.
THE CAPACITY TO– FOR THE LAW TO EQUAL THIS IS.
PROBLEMATIC. THE DETAILS CHANGE TODAY ON THE TABLE THAT WE'' RE. PARTICULARLY OBJECTING TO IS THE.
LEISURE OR RELAXABLE DEMAND OF THE DISTANCE TO.
RESIDENCE UNITS. WE DON'' T THINK THAT LINE OF SIGHT IS A NEEDED REQUIREMENT.
IT'' S MORE OBJECTIONABLE.
THAN NOT.IT ' S EVEN MORE A PRINCIPLE OF.
SPREADING THROUGHOUT THE.
AREA IN ADDITION TO VEHICLE DRIVER DISTURBANCE. THE 300 METRE LEISURE AND ALSO.
ALSO TH THE DIFFERENTIATION, WE DON'' T THINK THERE NEED TO BE A.
DISTINCTION MADE ON THICKNESS. YOU HAVE EVEN MORE PEOPLE FLOATING OVER THOSE SIGNS THAN YOU PERFORM IN.
A RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN.
AREA. >> > > SOME OF THOSE NOR SUBURBAN.
COMMUNITIES WOULD HAVE A BERM,.
AS AN EXAMPLE, SEPARATING THE INDICATION FROM THE RESIDENTIAL. HOW MANY BILLBOARDS DO YOU.
HAVE IN THE BELTLINE? >> > > WE JUST RECENTLY CARRIED OUT A.
MAPPING STUDY, IT'' S AVAILABLE ON.
OUR INTERNET SITE, BELTLINE.CA. WE MAPPED BETWEEN 25 AND ALSO 36.
SIGNBOARDS. IT'' S ACTUALLY MORE ALONG THE LINES OF 30. AS WELL AS SOMEWHERE IN INFLUENCED LOCATIONS.
OR NEIGHBOURING AREAS EARLY HEAP ALONG– ERLTON ALONG MACLEOD.
TRAIL, BUT WE PUT THEM ON THERE.
AS AN IMPACTED PARTY. AS AN EXAMPLE. MOST OF THEM ARE ALONG.
10th method AS WELL AS THERE ARE A COUPLE WITHIN RESIDENTIAL.
PROXIMITY TO RESIDENCE UNITS THAT.
HAVE JUST RECENTLY GONE UP THAT ARE IN THE AUTHORIZATIONS PROCESS.
NOW.
>> > > SO IF WE WERE TO MAKE THE RULES A BIT EASIER FOR.
SOME AREAS OF THE CITY, YOU.
WOULD SEE United States TIGHTENING UP THE REGULATIONS IN MORE PEDESTRIAN.
ORIENTED MAINLY RESIDENTIAL.
DISTRICTS.MIXED USE AREA. >
> MIXED USE DISTRICTS
>> WITH. CLOSENESS TO RESIDENTIAL AND HOUSE, YES. > > EVERY LOCAL IN THE CITY
>>. MUST BE TREATED WITH THE SAME
REGARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. TODAY. > > MANY THANKS.
> > Mayor >> Naheed Nenshi:. THANKS, Mr. CRAIG.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AS WELL AS. > > GREAT AFTERNOON. WE CONTAINER ' T TALK FOR EVERY.
NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION WE DO SHOT AND OFFER A NEIGHBORHOOD. PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS WE ' VE BEEN.
EXISTING AT THE ASSESSMENTS WHERE
THE CITY HAS BEEN CONFERENCE. WITH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS OTHER.
STAKEHOLDERS TO REVIEW THIS ISSUE OF INDICATIONS. SO FOR OR AGAINST, YOU STAND UP. FOR OR AGAINST.
IF I ' D STOOD UP FOR, I MIGHT.
HAVE BEEN HOUSE NOW VIEWING.
ON TV. FOR BECAUSE WE DEMAND SOME KIND OF.
CONTROL ON THIS NEW CLASS OF.
SIGNAGE.OVERALL, THE PROPOSITIONS THAT. ADMINISTRATION ' S ADVANCED. DO ACHIEVE THIS.
AGAINST, BECAUSE SOME. COMMUNITIES WOULD TRUTHFULLY PREFER. A POSTPONEMENT A MINIMUM OF IN SERVICE AND 3RD PARTY.
SIGNS, A MINIMUM OF UNTIL A FULL.
INDICATION EVALUATION IS COMPLETE. THE FEDERATION SUPPORTED.
ADMINISTRATION'' S FIRST STAB AT.
THIS LAST APRIL WHICH WAS TO CALL FOR A DC, DIRECT CONTROL,.
BECAUSE MAYBE THAT WAS THE NEXT.
BEST THING. ADMINISTRATION IS.
INTENDING DEAL WITH A LONG-TERM.
PLAN INCLUDING BROAD PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND ALSO PUBLIC SURVEY. THAT HASN'' T HAPPENED YET EXCEPT.
FOR THE CONFERENCES WITH THE DAMAGED AREA ORGANIZATIONS. IN THE ABSENCE OF REGULATIONS AS WELL AS.
IN THE LACK OF THE CONSENT OF CALGARIANS, MOST OF THESE NEW.
TYPE OF SIGNS HAVE BEEN.
RELEASED WITH THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT.
APPEAL BOARD. WITHOUT CONTROLS, THE INDICATORS WILL CERTAINLY RELOCATE FOR UNUSUAL TO UBIQUITOUS.
BEFORE WE KNOW IT. A HALT, A STRAIGHT CONTROL WHICH WAS INITIALLY SUGGESTED OR.
SOLID DISCRETIONARY REGULATIONS WHICH.
ARE BEING SUGGESTED TODAY MAY APPREHEND THIS PENNING DIGITAL.
SIGN RACE AND ALLOW TIME.
FOR CIVIC REPRESENTATION ON THIS NEW ENHANCEMENT TO THE PUBLIC REALM.
PRIOR TO THE DIGITAL HORSE IS ANY.
FURTHER OUT OF THE DIGITAL BARN, IF YOU'' LL PARDON THAT EXTREMELY.
CHALLENGING EXAMPLE.
> > IF YOU ' RE EVALUATING THE.
> > IN THIS CASE IT DOESN ' T SINCE IT ' S ON AIRPORT TERMINAL LANDS. > > I ' M SIMPLY GOING TO LEAVE SOMETHING RIGHT HERE. > > SO IF THEY ' RE ILLUMINATED, IT
. > > CURRENTLY, THE BELTLINE
, I ' D BE.WITH EVERYONE COMING NEAR SPEAK AGAINST, MAYBE
MANAGEMENT GOT IT RIGHT THIS
TIME.NOBODY '
S COMPLETELY HAPPY. I WISH TO REFERENCE A FEW DETAILS
IN RESPONSE TO SOME MATTERS THAT HAVE SHOW UP TOO. I BELIEVE WE WOULD NOT SUPPORT A.
LEISURE OF THE RANGE FROM HOUSES. OR A DECREASE TO A HUNDRED.
METRES. A HUNDRED METRES IS EXTREMELY CLOSE,.
IN MY EVALUATION. TO HAVE THE CHANNEL-CHANGING AS Mr. CRAIG RECOMMENDED. TO BRING THEM RIGHT INTO C-RE 1 AND ALSO.
C-CORE 2, 16th Method WAS RAISED AS AN INSTANCE. WHAT ABOUT 17th method.
SOUTHWEST, MARDA LOOP, 10th STREET NORTHWEST, KENSINGTON.
ROADWAY, fourth STREET? THESE ARE PEDESTRIAN FOCUSED ROADWAYS AS WELL AS THIS IS AN COMPLETELY.
DIFFERENT SCALE OF SIGNAGE. AS WELL AS IF WE'' RE TALKING ABOUT DRIVER DISTURBANCE, I TELL YOU.
AS A VEHICLE DRIVER AND ALSO AS A CITIZEN OF.
THE NEARBY LOCATION YOU MUST PAY ALOT MORE ATTENTION WHEN YOU'' RE. DRIVING ON 17th Method THAN.
YOU ARE ON LOTS HIGHER QUANTITY, HIGHER SPEED ROADS. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE'' S CROSSROADS,.
THERE'' S INDIVIDUALS JAY-WALKING.
THERE'' S SIGNS. THROUGHOUT THE SUMMERTIME, INDIVIDUALS.
PRACTICALLY DRIVE WITH THEIR HEAD OUT THE HOME WINDOW LOOKING AT.
THE SCENERY, AND ALSO THE LAST THING.
WE NEED IN THESE EVEN MORE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED AREAS IS TO HAVE.
ANOTHER KIND OF KINETIC SIGNS.
WHICH FRANKLY WE'' RE JUST STARTING TO UNDERSTAND AND ALSO OBTAIN.
MADE USE OF TO. I BELIEVE A GREAT FACTOR WAS MADE EARLIER WITH REGARDS TO.
STRATEGY IT CALGARY. WE'' RE TRYING TO MAKE THESE HALLWAYS IN THE LOCATIONS EVEN MORE.
HUMAN, MORE HABITABLE DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE.
WANT MORE INHABITANTS IN THESE AREAS. AND ALSO I DO THINK THAT HAVING EVEN MORE.
AND VARIOUS KINDS OF SIGNS INCLUDING THIS NEW DIGITAL.
SIGNAGE CERTAINLY WITHOUT A GREAT DEAL.
OF REFLECTION IS GOING IN An INSTRUCTIONS THAT'' S OPPOSITE. TO PRODUCTION THESE AREAS EVEN MORE.
HABITABLE.THANK YOU REALLY MUCH, IF
YOU HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi>: MANY THANKS. ALDERMAN LOWE? > > I ' M CURIOUS CONCERNING YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE RELAXATION OF. THE 300 METRES.
WHEN I ADDRESSED IT BEFORE, BECAUSE– AS WELL AS I MISSPOKE MYSELF. WHEN IN FACT, I CLAIMED BARLOW PATH. I SUGGEST BLACKFOOT TRAIL WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL IS SUBSTANTIALLY. LISTED BELOW THE HIGHWAY AS WELL AS ON THE. EAST SIDE IT ' S ALL INDUSTRIAL. WHY COULD THE 300 METRES NOT BE. RELAXED BECAUSE CIRCUMSTANCE? > > WELL, I GUESS THERE ' S> A PAIR MATTERS. I GUESS THERE ' S A PAIR THINGS.'I ' D WISH TO REFERENCE. ONE, AS WELL AS THIS RESEMBLES– THERE.
WAS SOME DISCUSS LESSENING THE.
300 METRES TO 100 METRES. AS WELL AS DEFINITELY WOULD NOT SUPPORT.
THAT. IN REQUISITES OF RELAXATION OF THE 300 METRES IN THE LAND USE.
DISCRETIONARY PROCEDURE, I PRESUME.
EACH TIME I HEAR WORDS “” DISCRETION”” I'' M ALWAYS. WORRIED REGARDING WHAT THE ASPECT.
OF IT MIGHT BE.SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WERE. SHOWN– I ' M NOT AWARE OF'. THE BLACKFOOT INSTANCE PERSONALLY. ON MACLEOD ROUTE, FOR.
INSTANCE, THE EXAMPLES THAT WERE SHOWN IN ERLTON, THERE'' S QUITE.
AN ALTITUDE CHANGE BETWEEN.
THOSE INDICATORS AS WELL AS THE RESIDENCES IN ERLTON YET THEY FEELING THEY'' RE. LOOKING RIGHT DOWN ON THEM AND.
THOSE INDICATORS ARE LOOKING RIGHT UP AT THEM. I'' M NOT SPECIFIC IT ' S EASY TO.
MAKE THAT DECISION. I'' D SAY IN THIS MEANTIME PERIOD,.
BETTER SECURE THAN SORRY. INDIVIDUALS DON'' T APPARENTLY DON'' T WANT THESE CLOSE TO WHERE THEY
. LIVE, AND WE SHOULD RESPECT.
> > SO I ' M HAVING SOME. I ' LL USE THE ERLTON INSTANCE WHERE AT NIGHT WHAT WE HEAR IS.
THAT AFTER A TONS METRES.
ESSENTIALLY THE INDICATIONS GO AWAY INTO THE AMBIENT LIGHT ANYHOW.
>> > > I DON ' T BELIEVE THAT FOR A. SECOND. GO HAVE A LOOK AT IT
>> IN THE EVENING.
> > TAKE An APPEARANCE AT IT AT EVENING. WITH THE GIVEN SIGNS AND THE HIGH REFLECTION OF NOT BEING.
ABLE TO DECREASE IT, AS I. UNDERSTAND IT, SO THAT ' S THE– MY PROBLEM AROUND THAT ONE. > > I WOULD RATHER THAT THIS BE.
AS– I WOULD RATHER THIS BE AS SIMPLE AND BULLET.
PROOF AS POSSIBLE. LIKE I CLAIMED, OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WHILE NO RULES HAVE BEEN.
IN POSITION, THESE SIGNS HAVE BEEN.
SHOWING UP AND ALSO WILL PROCEED TO APPEAR. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE A RICHER.
CONVERSATION ON SIGNS. SEVERAL OF THE CONCERNS INCREASED ABOUT.
THE ILLUMINATION OF OTHER KINDS OF.
INDICATORS ARE REALLY FASCINATING. AND I PUT ON'' T THINK WE SHOULD DO
. ANYTHING TO ADD TO A PROBLEMATIC.
CIRCUMSTANCE. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
ALDERMAN FARRELL?
>> > > DID YOU EVER TAKE A SEAT IN A SPACE WITH THE INDUSTRY IN WHICH.
THERE WERE SOME AREAS WHERE THE.
GUIDELINES PERHAPS COULD BE LOOS LOOSED AND OTHERS WHERE THEY NEEDED.
TIGHTENING UP.
>> > > I WAS AT ONE CONFERENCE THAT HAD COMMUNITY AND SECTOR PEOPLE. AND I DIDN ' T FIND THE EXCHANGE. TO BE REALLY PRODUCTIVE.THERE WAS SOME
PRETTY ESTABLISHED.
FACTORS OF VIEW ON BOTH SIDES.
THAT WERE HIGHLY EXPRESSED. THIS CONTAINER AT LEAST BE MANAGED.
CURRENTLY.
>> > > YES, DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SEEN A VARIETY OF APPLICATIONS COME IN.
EXACTLY. O.K.. THANK YOU.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN FARRELL. ANYONE ELSE? MANY THANKS, MANY THANKS FOR BEING RIGHT HERE. ANY INDIVIDUAL ELSE WOULD LIK LIKE TO SK AGAINST THIS>> PROPOSAL? MID-DAY, Mr. FECH. > > EXCELLENT AFTERNOON. MAYOR, ALDERMEN, CITY PERSONNEL. MY NAME IS OSCAR FECH. I ' VE LIVED BELOW CLOSE TO 60 YEARS IN CALGARY. I DISCOVER IT EXTREMELY INTERESTING, WE.
DEVELOP NEW GUIDELINES, LAWS ONCE AGAIN TO DEVELOP DIGITAL– WE HAVE.
DIGITAL INNOVATION ANYWHERE. WE HAVE T.V., WE HAVE WHATEVER– IT'' S AFFECTING OUR.
BRAINS ALREADY. I WEAR'' T HAVE ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY'. AND I ' M GLAD I PUT ON ' T. WHEN YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THE PROFESSIONALS, IT INFLUENCES YOUR BLOOD SYSTEM,.
YOUR MINDS GET …
[Indistinct] IT'' S REALLY AGGRAVATING WHEN.
INDIVIDUALS KNOW WHAT'' S HAPPENING AND ALSO. DIGITAL IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT ON DRIVING.LIKE WAS INDICATED
. YOU HEARD SOME GOOD REMARKS. SO WE SHOULD LISTEN TO THESE COMMENTS AND ANALYZE AS WELL AS SAY,.
APPEARANCE, CHECK OUT ALL THE PAPER THAT.
I'' VE GOT BELOW FOR JUST ONE LAW. IT'' S A LITTLE BYLAW. ALL THE PAPER THAT WE ' RE UTILIZING, ALWAYS INDICATED AND STATED WHEN.
WE HAVE GOOD MODERN TECHNOLOGY WE'' RE. GOING TO USE NO PAPER OR HARDLY ANY PAPER. WE'' RE USING IN FACT 10 TIMES.
EVEN MORE PAPER BECAUSE OF INNOVATION. AS WELL AS TECHNOLOGY REGULATIONS, CONTROLS.
THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. WHAT GOES IN COMES OUT. THIS IS THE WORLD WE'' RE LIVING.
IT'' S LIKE A FICTION WORLD. LET'' S GET BACK TO GOOD COMMON.
PENALTY. THEY PUT SOME DIGITAL ON THEM, THAT WAS FANTASTIC. NOW WE'' RE GOING TOO FAR. THE EYES TIN'' T EVEN TAKE THE GLARING– THE LIGHTING THAT'' S. GOING ON TO AND FRO. THERE'' S A GREAT DEAL OF ACCIDENTS HAPPENING BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIGITAL. I HAD SOMEONE BACK END ME
ABOUT. TWO MONTHS AGO, AS WELL AS HE REMOVED. AND ALSO THE MAN BEHIND ME CAME TO.
HIM CLAIMED I RECOGNIZE WHERE HE TOOK.
OFF TO, SO I CHASED HIM– NOT WENT AFTER HIM. MOSTED LIKELY TO THE PARKING AREA. HE HAD HIS FOOT IN A CAST– >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I AM.
ENJOYING THIS TALE, Mr.FECH.
BUT YOU NEED TO OBTAIN BACK TO THE POINT. I DO WANT TO LISTEN TO WHAT TOOK PLACE. He had his foot in a cast? >> > > HE HAD A DIGITAL PROBABLY
HOW. LOTS VEHICLE PARKING ATTRACTIONS NEAR CHINOOK.
WHAT I'' M STATING IS I ' M PARTLY. BEING SARCASTIC BUT IT'' S
THE.
FORTH. WE DON'' T KNOW WHAT ' S GOING ON ANYMORE.
OUR BRAINS ARE BEING VIRTUALLY. MUSHED AS A RESULT OF ALL THE TECHNOLOGY'. I ' M GLAD I WEAR ' T HAVE ALL THIS. >> MY BRAIN IS FUNCTIONING SIMPLY FINE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I. COULD PROBABLY USE A BETTER. >> BRAIN AND A LITTLE
LESS MUSH. > > Mr. MAYOR, YOUR BRAIN IS. JUST FINE. YOU ' RE INTO TECHNOLOGY SO HEFTY, YOU RECOGNIZE ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.'WHAT ' S HAPPENING. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I'' M UNSURE THAT EVERY PERSON AROUND.
THESE TABLES WOULD AGREE WITH.
YOU, Mr.FECH.
> > OH, THEY DO. YOU'' RE IN THE DIGITAL AND ALSO. EVERYTHING. BUT MY FINAL FEEDBACK ARE ALL.
THIS IS SIMPLY A CAMOUFLAGE AS WELL AS.
IT'' S– IT WILL CERTAINLY HAVE A BIG EFFECT. WHAT I'' M SAYING IS LET ' S OBTAIN. THAT'' S WHY WE ' RE HAVING– I. TELEPHONE CALL ITSELF IMPLOSION.
SODOM AND ALSO GOMORRAH. LET'' S GET BACK TO GOOD COMMON FEELING AS WELL AS THAT WILL FUNCTION. WE WILL SURVIVE A GREAT DEAL LONGER IF.
WE RETURN TO THAT ERA. THANK YOU QUITE.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WORDS.
TO LIVE BY.ANY INQUIRIES? THANK YOU. ANY PERSON ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS.
ANY INDIVIDUAL ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? WE WILL CERTAINLY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AS WELL AS TAKE CONCERNS FOR.
WE'' LL TAKE SOME DISPUTE. ALDERMAN MAR MAY HAVE–.
ALDERMAN CARRA. ALDERMAN CARRA.
>> > > SO I PRESUME MY FIRST INQUIRY. TO MANAGEMENT IS HAVE WE DIFFERENTIATED BETWEEN THE.
VARIOUS KINDS OF– I'' LL WAIT. HAVE WE DIFFERENTIATED BETWEEN THE VARIOUS TYPES OF DIGITAL.
INDICATORS?
>> > > YOUR PRAYER, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TODAY ONLY RECOGNIZE.
THE DIGITAL MESSAGING INDICATORS.
AS A CERTAIN TYPE AND THE DIGITAL THIRD CELEBRATION MARKETING.
SIGNS AS A CERTAIN TYPE. > > SO'IT ' S MOVEMENT VIDEO OR SIMPLY.
> > THE DISTINCTION IS EVEN MORE.
OR LESS THE CONTENT.WITH ELECTRONIC MESSAGE SIGNS.
THE MATERIAL IS RELATED TO THE.
BUSINESS ON THE SITE WHEREAS THIRD EVENT ADVERTISING IS.
RELATED TO A 3RD PARTY OR A.
THIRD PRODUCT. >> > > SO THERE ' S NO DIFFERENCE.
IN BETWEEN THE VIDEO CLIP SIGNS AS WELL AS KIND.
OF A STATIC DISPLAY SCREEN INDICATOR. >> > > YOUR WORSHIP, THE MODIFICATIONS.
DO NOT ALLOW ANY FULL MOTION.
VIDEO CLIP IN EITHER TYPE OF SIGN, ONLY STATIC IMAGES.
>> > > AND ALSO WHERE DOES THE VIDEO CLIP.
ACTION THAT'' S TAKING PLACE ON THE SIGN BY McMAHON ARENA, IN WHICH. DOES THAT COME UNDER THE>> LAW? > > AT THIS FACTOR IN TIME … YES, YOUR WORSHIP,
THE McMAHON. STADIUM INDICATION IS ON COLLEGE OF.
CALGARY LAND THEREFORE IT IS EXEMPT FROM OUR LAND USAGE BYLAW OFFERED.
THAT THE INDICATION HANDLES.
UNIVERSITY MATTERS, COLLEGE CONCERNS.
>> > > OKAY. MY OTHER INQUIRY IS, THERE IS An INDICATION AND IT'' S ON MACLEOD PATH. AT THE MOUTH OF GOAL.
ROADWAY. AS WELL AS IT'' S HIGH UP ON A PYLON AND
. IT FLASHES. EVERY SINGLE TIME I DRIVE BY IT I BELIEVE I'' M TAKING CARE OF A NOVA CAM.
>> > > YES, YOUR PRAISE. WE HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES.HOWEVER, MY UNDERSTANDING IS. THAT INDICATOR DOES HAVE An AUTHORIZATION NOW. AS A 3RD PARTY MARKETING INDICATOR DIGITAL AND ALSO SO I BELIEVE. IT ' S OPERATING IN CONFORMITY. WITH THE AUTHORIZATION.
> > THAT INDICATION DRIVES >> INDIVIDUALS. CRAZY.
I'' M HAVING A HARD TIME SETTING APART IN BETWEEN THE.
SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE'' RE. REVIEWING TODAY AS WELL AS THE ESTHETIC DISCUSSION, THE.
ESTHETICS DISCUSSION THAT WE'' RE. HAVING. AND ALSO I'' M NOT EXACTLY SURE THAT WE ' VE–
I. THINK WE ' VE BLENDED THEM, AND I.
DON'' T KNOW HOW TO PHRASE THIS CONCERN EXACTLY, BUT CONTAINER YOU.
GIVE ME SOME UNDERSTANDING AS TO HOW.
YOU GUYS SOUGHT TO DIFFERENTIATE AND/OR BLEND THAT WITHIN THESE.
PROPOSED SHORT-LIVED LIPSZ … [Indiscernible]> > > TRY TO BE QUICK. THERE WERE BOTH ESTHETIC AS WELL AS.
SAFETY AND SECURITY CONSIDERATIONS IN THIS AMENDMENT. THE ONE POINT THAT WE DEMAND TO.
EMPHASIZE IS THAT THESE ARE INTERIM MODIFICATIONS TO, AS.
Mr.VAN WEGAN MENTIONED, TO.
MANAGE THE SCENARIO UNTIL WE CANISTER HAVE FULL INTERACTION AND A.
PERMANENT SET OF POLICIES. PART OF THE LONGER TERM PLAN WILL CERTAINLY BE FOR United States TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME.
UPCOMING SAFETY STUDIES, ONE OF.
THEM IS BEING DONE BY THE FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION.
DIVISION IN THE UNITED STATES.
TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SAFETY FACETS AND ALSO THAT REPORT IS DUE LATER.
THIS YEAR, HAS BEEN DELAYED FOR.
A LONG TIME WHERE WE CANISTER GET A FAR BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE.
SECURITY EFFECTS. THE SECONDLY PROBLEM WE'' RE TACKLING WAS THE ESTHETIC AS WELL AS.
COMPATIBILITY ISSUE AND ALSO AS HAS.
BEEN NOTICED AS WELL AS WENT OVER TODAY, WE DID NOT LIST DIGITAL.
THIRD EVENT ADVERTISING AND MARKETING SIGNS IN.
THE HALLWAYS, THE 17th AVENUE SOUTHEAST SOUTHWEST,.
16th Method, KENSINGTON ROADWAY.
ET CETERA.THE FACTOR FOR THAT IS WE FELT. THOSE AREAS ARE THE MIXED USE
. AREAS WHERE COUNCIL ' S POLICIES ARE SEEKING TO PROMOTE MORE. RESIDENCE UNITS AND EVEN MORE MIXED. UTILIZES. WE WANTED INSTEAD THAN A. DEFAULT DECISION FOR A CHOICE.
TO BE BASED ON POLICY AND FACTORS TO CONSIDER THAT WOULD BE THE. GUIDELINES APPEARING OF SOME PLAN.
THAT WOULD OCCUR LATER.
COMPONENT OF THAT POLICY DEVELOPMENT. MAY BE TO IDENTIFY SMALLER.
SIZED INDICATORS THAT ARE PEDESTRIAN
ORIENTED THAT MAY BE. APPROPRIATE IN THOSE LOCATIONS.
> > MY LAST QUESTION INVOLVES
>> THIS, I ' M TRYING TO WRAP MY. MIND AROUND THE SETBACK.
DEMANDS FOR THESE SIGNS.WHAT IS THE APPROACH OF SAFETY AND SECURITY.
DRIVING THAT? I HAVE– I INDICATE, WE PUT UP A LOT OF GRAPHES AND ALSO SPOKE ABOUT. AS ROAD SPED UP BOOSTS PEOPLE ' S. RESPONSE TIME DECREASES AS WELL AS'ALL OF THAT. EXPLAIN THAT TO ME, BECAUSE, I. MEAN, I BELIEVE– WE KNOW THAT ROADS HAVE A DESIGN SPEED AS WELL AS. ROADS HAVE A PUBLISHED SAFETY AND SECURITY.
CRAFTING WAS THAT WE NEED TO GET RID OF ITEMS
THAT PEOPLE SMASH. OF COURSE, THE
FURTHER BACK YOU PLACE POSITION FROM THE ROADROADWAY NOW WE KNOW THE FASTER PEOPLE.
DRIVE.AND SO YOU MAY HAVE A POSTED.
SPEED LIMIT
, BUT THE DESIGNED.
SPEED UP MAY BE A GREAT DEAL GREATER THAN THAT. WE DO KNOW THAT SPED UP ELIMINATES. AND ALSO SO AS WE TRY AND TRANSITION FROM AN AUTOMOBILE-FOCUSED.
TRANSPORTATION SETTING TO AN.
SETTING THAT PUTS A LOT MORE EMPHASIS ON OTHER MODES AS WELL AS.
SEEKS TO BLEND THESE SETTINGS.
WORKING WITH EACH OTHER, EXPLAIN TO ME THE TROUBLE WITHIN THE CONTEXT.
OF THE NEW CTP AS OPPOSED.
STANDARD TRADITIONAL MEANS OF CREATING FOR ROAD SECURITY.
>> > > YOUR PRAISE, MAYOR NENSHI,
.'I ' M WITH TRANSPORT PLANNING. I PRESUME'YOU ' RE SPEAKING ABOUT 2. CONCEPTS HERE WITH THE TROUBLES FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE WE'' RE. ATTEMPTING TO ACHIEVE– WE'' RE. ATTEMPTING TO HANDLE COMPETITORS FOR MOTORIST FOCUS. WE BELIEVE THAT WEB TRAFFIC CONTROL.
GADGETS ARE PRIMARY, AND AFTERWARDS PERHAPS ONE PROPOSALS SIGN WOULD.
BE SECONDARY AND 3RD PARTY.
IF DRIVERS ARE, ADVERTISING INDICATION WOULD BE OUR LAST WORRY.
IT'' S MINIMUM IS 6 METRES. IT IS USED TO SET BACK THE ITEMS FROM THE WITH LANES.
TO ENSURE THAT THERE WOULD BE– NOBODY.
WOULD HIT THESE OBJECTS.SO THAT ' S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING.
PROBABLY WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING.
CONCERNING PUSHING THINGS FAR FROM THE THROUGHFARE.
>> > > YEAH. AND I'' M JUST– YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE FURTHER YOU SET.
POINTS BACK THE EVEN MORE OPEN THE.
SPACE, THE FASTER PEOPLE WILL DRIVE.
>> > > SO THESE ARE DIFFERENT.
>> > > ARE THEY >>? > > YEAH. > > O.K.. I THINK MY LAST CONCERN IS TO YOU INDIVIDUALS. I BELIEVE WHAT INDUSTRY IS TYPE OF.
ADVANCING TO United States RIGHT HERE IS THAT THE DIGITAL INDICATOR WHEN.
PROPERLY DEPLOYED IS NO.
REAL– IS NOT REALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. AND ALSO IS BETTER BECAUSE IT'' S LESS. ECO IMPACTFUL, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. THAT'' S A WONDERFUL TALE. UNLESS IT'' S MEANS EVEN MORE AESTHETICALLY IMPACTFUL. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION?
>> > > CERTAINLY, YOUR PRAISE', FROM WHAT WE ' VE SEEN AND
HEARD FROM. AREA UNTIL NOW IS THAT DIGITAL
. SIGNS DO HAVE A BRIGHTER, MORE BRILLIANT PRESENTATION TO THE.
PUBLIC, AS WELL AS THAT'' S WHY AT THIS. POINT PENDING LONGER TERM RESEARCHES AND ALSO LONGER TERM.
FUNCTION WE'' RE PROPOSING TO MANAGE.
THEM ESSENTIALLY.FAIRLY CONSERVATIVELY. AND AFTER THAT DEVELOP EVEN MORE RESEARCHES. THAT CONTAINER POSSIBLY PROVIDE COUNCIL SOME EVEN MORE CONCLUSIVE. REFERRALS. IF THAT ' S HELPFUL OR NOT, I ' M NOT CERTAIN. > > YEAH, THAT ' S PENALTY.
>> THANK YOU QUITE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: >> THANK. YOU, ALDERMAN CARRA.
> > YEAH. AT THIS TIME I ' D LIKE TO STEP A.
REFERRAL OF CPC 2011-27– I SHOULD GIVE PROVIDE TO THE CLERKSTAFF
RIGHT NOW. AND ALSO PRODUCE A SPECIAL COUNCIL TASKFORCE TO BE COMPRISED OF.
THREE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
INCLUDING THE CHAIR OF LPT AS WELL AS TWO OTHERS TO BE APPOINTED BY.
COUNCIL TODAY MAYBE THROUGHOUT THE.
IN CAMERA SESSION TO REPORT BACK TO THE STANDING POLICY COMMITTEE.
THERE'' S A WHOLE LOT OF
PEOPLE THAT. DON ' T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGICAL COMPETENCE WHEN WE'' RE TALKING.
NICKS OR KNOCKS OR WHATEVER THE HECK THEY ARE. IT'' S QUESTIONABLE INSOFAR AS WE.
ARE ARE DISCUSSING THE EVOLUTIONARY MODIFICATION OF AN.
SECTOR THAT IS INVOLVING.
COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATION AND I WOULD LOVE.
TO SEE A SMALLER TASKFORCE THAT.
WAS ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN FAR MORE CLEARLY THAN WE DO NOW.
AND ALSO REPORT BACK AS A BOARD.
TO LPT AND ALSO WITH COUNCIL.SO THAT WOULD BE MY REFERRAL. MOVEMENT AT THIS TIME.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:
>> ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A SECONDER FOR THAT? THANKS, ALDERMAN COLLEY-URQUHART. ON THE RECOMMENDATION MOVEMENT, I ' LL RUN. VIA MY CHECKLIST. , if IT ' S ON THE RECOMMENDATION ACTIVITY.. IF TO'HIS NOT I ' LL LEAVE YOU ON.'THE LIST IN INSTANCE THE REFERENCE ACTIVITY FALLS SHORT. ALDERMAN FARRELL? > > MANY THANKS. PERHAPS THE MOVING COMPANY CAN RESPONSE. IN HIS CLOSE. I THINK WHAT WE ' RE TRYING TO EFFORT TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY IS BRING. SOME REGULATIONS IN AREA WHEN–.
WHERE THERE IS NONE.AND SO WOULD THERE BE AN. UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD HAVE. A MORATORIUM ON THESE APPLICATIONS WHILE WE HOLD-UP. FURTHER? I WOULD HOPE IT
WOULD WISH TO SEE KIND OF URBAN VIEWPOINT.
AND A RURAL PERSPECTIVE.
INCLUDED IN THIS? AND ALSO ALSO WHETHER OR NOT YOU.
WOULD BE INCLUDING THE.
STAKEHOLDERS SO THERE WOULD BE EVEN MORE MEANINGFUL STAKEHOLDER.
INVOLVEMENT. AS WELL AS MAY I ASK An INQUIRY OF ADMINISTRATION DURING THIS.
DISPUTE? WHEN DO YOU PREPARE FOR– OH. WENT AWAY ON ME. THERE YOU GO. WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE REPORT THAT'' S COMING FROM THE. UNITED STATE. THAT DISCUSSES THE INFLUENCE.
ON TRANSPORTATION SAFETY AS WELL AS DIGITAL SIGNS?
>> > > YOUR PRAYER, THAT RECORD.
ORIGINALLY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN JANUARY. IT'' S CURRENTLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS MAY.
OF THIS YEAR. OF PROGRAM THE TIME LINE ON.
THAT RUNS OUT– NOT IN OUR.
CONTROL.
>> > > NO. IF IT DOES COME IN MAY, DO.
YOU BELIEVE THIS COULD ASSISTANCES EDUCATE THAT BOARD? OR IS IT TOO LATE? IT'' S COMPONENT OF THE >>– > > I ' M NOT SURE WHAT THE TIMING.
OF MEETINGS WOULD BE. CERTAINLY THE SECURITY RESEARCH APPEARING OF THE UNITED STATE WAS.
SOMETHING WE WERE DEFINITELY.
GOING TO INCLUDE AS PART OF OUR LONGER TERM DISCUSSIONS ON THE.
LONG-TERM POLICIES THAT WOULD BE.
PROPOSED TO COUNCIL. >> > > AMONG THE QUESTIONS I WAS.
GOING TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE.
REFERRALS BEFORE US IS IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO.
SET APART THE MORE.
PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED URBAN CORRIDORS AS OPPOSED TO An EVEN MORE.
SUBURBAN CONTEXT IN WHICH I ASSUME.
IT REQUIRES TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY?
>> > > YOUR PRAISE, THE
. RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY ARE BASICALLY PROPOSING.
THAT IN THAT THE AREAS THAT.
WERE NOT RECOMMENDING THE DIGITAL SIGNS BE NOTED, THE.
C-CORE 1, THE C-CORE 2.
AS THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE DISTRICT WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY BESIDE.
RESIDENTIAL. ESSENTIALLY THAT'' S THE REFERRAL TODAY AS WELL.
>> > > I DO SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
IN BETWEEN KENSINGTON AND ALSO MACLEOD TRAIL OR BLACKFOOT. SO I WEAR'' T KNOW IF THAT NUANCE.
> > WHAT I'' LL DO IS I ' LL ASK–. THAT.SO IS THAT THE RED … SO THE RED COLOUR, YOUR PRAYER,.
WOULD BE THE C-CORE 1 AND THE C-CORE 2 DISTRICTS. THE YELLOW IS SIMPLY TO EMPHASIZE.
THE LOCATIONS, JUST TO IDENTIFY IN WHICH THE RED IS, BUT IT DOESN'' T. ENCOMPASS THE YELLOW LOCATIONS, SIMPLY.
THE RED DOTS YOU SEE ON THE MAP. >> > > THE ISSUE ABOUT MACLEOD.
PATH, WHERE DOES THAT ENTER.
PLAY? >> > > I BELIEVE THAT A FEW OF THE.
ISSUES HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED.
WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSED 300 METRE PROBLEM FROM HOUSE.
UNITS. AND ALSO I ADDITIONALLY COMPREHEND THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT.
MAKING THAT RELAXABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF.
AN APPLICATION WAS OBTAINED BY THE ADVANCEMENT AUTHORITY, IT.
COULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO RESIDENT.
COMMUNITIES AND DISCRETION COULD BE WORKED OUT TO SAY DECREASE THE.
OBSTACLE RANGE IF THERE WAS A.
PHYSICAL BARRIER LIKE YOU'' RE IN A VALLEY OR BEHIND A BUILDING,.
REDUCING IT TO A REDUCED NUMBER. > > OKAY.
THIS RECOMMENDATION. WITH– UNWILLINGLY. WE TABLED THIS AT PREPARATION.
COMMISSION SEVERAL TIMES AND I.
THINK THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT WHILE WE HOLD-UP CHOOSING.
ON THIS, WE SEE APPLICATIONS,.
AND WITHOUT PLAN CONTEXT. BUT I'' M HOPING THAT IF THE. MARKET HAS A BIT EVEN MORE.
TIME TO FUNCTION WITH CITY ADMINISTRATION, MEMBERS OF.
COUNCIL AND ALSO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD,.
THAT THEY WILL DO THAT IN GREAT CONFIDENCE AND ALSO NOT TRY AND PRESS IN.
A VARIETY OF THESE DIGITAL.
IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN YOU'' VE. I WILL CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT WITH HESITATION, BUT I DO HOPE THAT.
WE LOOK AT THE URBAN CONTEXT.
DIFFERENT FROM A MORE VEHICLE ORIENTED CONTEXT.
>> > > Mar Naheed Nenshi:.
ALDERMAN FARRELL, I WILL, IF YOU DESIRED TO, APPROXIMATELY YOU, ACCEPT A.
MOTION ARISING OUGHT TO THIS PASS.
I BELIEVE I CAN DO THAT. I BELIEVE WE CANISTER DO THAT, I MEAN.FROM CURRENTLY UNTIL IN COMMITTEE.
> > I THINK THAT–>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi>: NEVER. MIND VIEWPOINT MISS SLOAN
CLAIMS WE. CAN ' T DO THAT.
> > AS A MOVEMENT EMERGING OR–. EITHER.
POWER. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: IT WAS.
WORTH A GREAT TRY.HAVE I POINTED OUT LOTS, LOTS,.
MANY TIMES THAT THE MGA DOESN'' T.
PROVIDE United States THE POWERS THAT WE DEMAND?
AND I ' M GLAD I WEAR ' T. WHAT I'' M CLAIMING IS I ' M PARTLY. WHAT I'' M SAYING IS LET ' S OBTAIN. THAT'' S WHY WE ' RE HAVING– I. PHONE CALL ITSELF IMPLOSION. > > WHAT I'' LL DO IS I ' LL ASK–.ON THE REFERRAL ACTIVITY, ALDERMAN
> > YES, THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. > > JUNE. THERE ' S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME BETWEEN NOW AS WELL AS THEN.
Faint] I ' M CHAIR. NOT MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THERE.
I MAY VERY BRIEFLY. CONCERN, I WAS TRYING TO READ THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I.
HAD, BUT IF WE WERE TO AMEND THE.
LAND USE DISTRICTS WOULD THAT REQUIRE READVERTISING?
>> > > AMEND THE LIST OF DISTRICTS.
IN THE LAND USE BYLAW? IN THE PROPOSED LAW? I ASSUME MISS SLOAN IS NODDING.
HER HEAD YES, IT WOULD CALL FOR READVERTISING.
>> > > SO WE COULDN ' T IN FACT MAKE.
AN MODIFICATION BECAUSE WE CONTAINER ONLY MAKE AN MODIFICATION AT SECOND.
READING. IF WE WERE TO PROPOSE EVEN AN AMENDMENT IT WOULD THEN.
DEMAND THE REQUIREMENT TO.
READVERTISE AND HAVE A NEW PUBLIC HEARING?
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: YES. SO I'' LL LET MISS SLOAN ANSWER THAT BUT I WILL CERTAINLY SAY AHEAD OF TIME.
THAT, YES, THAT'' S PROBABLY.
RIGHT.BUT ACTUALLY
EVEN SOME OF THE.
MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE BEING.
RECOMMENDED BY INDUSTRY TODAY, ESPECIALLY THE ONE ABOUT.
CHANGING THE DISTRICTS TO WHICH.
IT'' S SUPPLIED WOULD ACTUALLY REQUIRE A READVERTISING AND THEN.
ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. BECAUSE THIS WAS NOT AT FIRST PROMOTED. MISS SLOAN, IS THAT FAIR?
>> > > THAT ' S CORRECT >>. > > AND ALSO I ' M SIMPLY LOOKING TO BE. CLEAR ABOUT THAT. HOW THIS PROCESS ACTUALLY PROGRESSES. IF WE– WE CAN ' T FORMALLY.
AMEND THE BYLAW UNTIL SECOND READING. SO ESSENTIALLY THERE WOULD BE NO.
AMENDMENTS ON THE FLOOR UP UNTIL SECOND ANALYSIS IN WHICH INSTANCE THE.
PUBLIC HEARING WOULD THEN BE.
CLOSED. IF WE DID when IT CAME BACK.
AUTHORIZE CHANGES TO IT AT.
SECOND READING, IT WOULD NECESSITATE A READVERTISEMENT,.
WOULDN'' T REOPEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
PROCESS? I'' M JUST WANTING TO UNDERSTAND. THE PROCEDURE HERE.
>> > > YOUR PRAISE, IT REALLY DEPENDS WHAT THE AMENDMENTS ARE.
REGARDING WHETHER OR NOT A NEW.
PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS READVERTISEMENT WOULD BE.
REQUIRED. INCLUDING An USAGE TO A DISTRICT THAT WAS NOT FORMERLY PROMOTED.
WOULD DEFINITELY CALL FOR A NEW.
PUBLIC HEARING AND A NEW AD.IF YOU WERE SIMPLY MODIFYING RULES,.
INSTEAD OF A 300.
METRE OBSTACLE IT'' S GOING TO BE A 250 METRE PROBLEM, THAT'' S. SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL COULD DO.
WITHOUT A READVERTISEMENT OR PUBLIC HEARING.
>> > > OK>>. > > ONE CAUTION THAT'I ' D PUT ON THAT– NOT CAUTION BUT ONE.
ADDITIONAL FACTOR I'' D MAKE IS THE. DIFFICULTY IS THAT A PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN ACCEPTED. REGARD TO THIS LAW. THEREFORE BY REFERRING THIS BACK AND HAVING A TEAM WORK WITH THIS,.
IT'' S HIGHLY LIKELY THAT IN NEW.
PUBLIC HEARING IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED IN ANY OCCASION BECAUSE.
NEW DETAILS HAS BEEN.
> > YEAH. IT'' S UNFORTUNATE ACTUALLY THAT THIS REFERENCE MOVEMENT WAS MADE.
BEFORE WE COULD ACTUALLY.
IMPLEMENT SOME ADJUSTMENTS, AT THE VERY LEAST TO START SOME CHANGES AS WELL AS.
PERHAPS HAVE AN IMPROMPTU.
COMMITTEE BE DIRECTED TO CREATE BRAND-NEW OR ADDITIONAL STANDARDS,.
PARTICULARLY IN RELATIONS TO.
THIRD PARTY ADVERTISEMENT.AND I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN. A BETTER WAY AHEAD.
I ' LL LISTEN TO THE ADDITIONAL DISAGREEMENTS AS WELL AS THE. MOVER IN HIS NEAR SEE.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:
>> THANKS, ALDERMAN CHABOT. ALDERMAN STEVENSON? > > YOUR WORSHIP,'I ' D
LIKE TO.
INTERESTED ABOUT THAT. AS WELL AS, YOU RECOGNIZE, TO BE FRANK, YOUR.
WORSHIP, I'' M NOT FAIRLY CERTAIN WHY.
COUNCIL DESIRES TO TAKE ON ADMINISTRATION'' S WORK. HAVING ACTUALLY STATED THAT, OBVIOUSLY I.
CANCONTAINER' T SUPPORT ASSISTANCE REFERRAL RECOMMENDATION A VARIETY SELECTION REASONSFACTORS SLOAN REMINDED YOU WE CANISTER NOT PUT A POSTPONEMENT IN LOCATION.
ARE ENTITLED TO MAKE APPLICATION UNDER THAT BYLAW AS WELL AS WE'' RE. REQUIRED TO PROCESS THOSE.
APPLICATIONS UNDER THAT BYLAW.SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE SIGNIFICANT. FACTS AROUND IT.
WITH REGARD TO THE RECOMMENDATION, OBVIOUSLY, YOUR PRAYER, I WILL.
AND I'' LL LEAVE MY LIGHT ON FOR FURTHER DISPUTE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I'' M GOING TO TURN YOUR LIGHT OFF.
ALDERMAN LOWE NOT BECAUSE I.
DON'' T WANT TO YOU DISCUSS FURTHER, I WANT TO EXHAUST THE.
LIST. I'' LL TURN IT RIGHT BACK ON AGAIN. ALDERMAN KEATING ON THE.
RECOMMENDATION? >> > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. I DO DEMAND A PAIR QUESTIONS OF.
INFORMATION OF ADMINISTRATION. I ASSUMED I HEARD TODAY THAT.
WE'' RE IN THE PROCEDURES OF REVIEWING INDICATORS– KIND OF THE.
INDICATION LAW ACROSS THE CITY IN. GENERAL. THAT IS CORRECT.
> > SO IN THIS INTERIM OF 18.
MONTHS, COULD ANY PERSON GET A. REGULAR BILLBOARD, LIT OR OTHERWISE LIT, AND THAT MAY GO AHEAD. SEPARATE FROM IT BEING DIGITAL? > > YES, THAT'' S CORRECT.THE PROPOSED
APPEALS TODAY DO.
NOT IN ANY– CHANGES TODAY.
DO NOT IN ANY METHOD AFFECT THE EXISTING CONVENTIONAL.
SIGNBOARDS.
>> > > SO MORATORIUM IS ONLY ON THE DIGITAL ELEMENT OUT SIGNS IN.
GENERAL, AND THEREFORE WITHIN 18.
MONTHS WE'' LL COME BACK WITH A POSSIBLY ENTIRE VARIOUS SET OF.
REGULATIONS.
>> > > THAT IS THE PURPOSE, YOUR WORSHIP.
>> > > SO ON THAT RESPECT, THE
. REFERRAL I KIND OF HAD WISHED IT PUT ON THE TASKFORCE– DROPPED.
THE TASKFORCE TOO BECAUSE WE.
NEED TO HAVE REFERRED IT BACK TO THE 18 MONTHS AS WELL AS GONE FORWARD.
FROM THERE. ON THAT FACTOR I WILL SUSTAIN IT, THANK YOU.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THANKS, ALDERMAN KEATING.ON THE RECOMMENDATION,
ALDERMAN. MacLEOD?
COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS.
AND I ' M HOPING ALDERMAN MAR'CAN. CLEAR UP THAT A BIT.
FURTHER. IN HIS CLOSE.
BUT I ADDITIONALLY WONDER AS TOe/c W. THIS– REFERRING BACK FOR MORE DETAILS, EVEN MORE DETAIL. DIFFERS– THIS IS AN INTERIM. POLICY. THEREFORE IT ' S NOT MEANT TO BE. BEST AND ALSO IT ' S NOT MEANT
TO. BE FINAL. AND SO I ' M GETTING THE FEELING. THAT IT ' S LACK EVER. PERFECTEDNESS IS A BARRIER TO MOVE ON ON ANYTHING. AS WELL AS I BELIEVE WE SIMPLY REQUIRED TO OFFER. WITH THIS AS BEST WE CANISTER AS AN INTERIM MEASURE AND ALSO PUT THE TIME. LINES AROUND THIS. THANKS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN MacLEOD.
>> I ASSUME WHAT I ' VE HEARD FROM MANAGEMENT ON THIS IS THAT. WHILE THIS HAS BEEN TABLED A FEW. TIMES, THEIR SENSE IS THEY DEMAND A LITTLE BIT EVEN MORE INSTRUCTIONS ON WHICH. BECAUSE, method TO MOVE FORWARD. COUNCIL HAS BEEN A LITTLE– MEMBERS OF
COUNCIL HAVE BEEN A. LITTLE EVERYWHERE. IF I MAY REPRESENT ALDERMAN MAR, I ' M SURE HE
' LL REFERENCE IT IN HIS. CLOSE, I ASSUME THAT WAS THE. INTENT HERE.ALDERMAN POOTMANS? > > ALDERMAN MacLEOD TOUCHED ON.
SOME THINGS BUT PERHAPS A FACTOR TREATMENT, DOES
A REFERENCE. MOTION HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF. WEB CONTENT AS TO WHAT THE
PURPOSES OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR, WHAT.
WE ' RE REFERRING TO BACK TO.
FACTOR OF IN WHICH WE ' RE AT AT THE
. I DON ' T HAVE MY ORANGE BOOK.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. PUBLICATION CURRENTLY.
> > YOU ' RE WELCOME, ANY TIME.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. ALDERMAN POOTMANS, THANK YOU
>> SO MUCH.
> > I UNDERSTAND YOU DELIGHT IN THESE. PROCESSES.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: NO
,. >> NOT REALLY.
> > NOT REALLY
>>? >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: AS.
LENGTHY AS THERE'' S CALLS ON WHICH. THE REFERRAL IS PUT AND ALSO AFTER THIS LONG PUBLIC HEARING, AND.
> > TO CONSIDER.OKAY. > > SO WE ' RE REFERRING A REPORT TO A TASKFORCE INCLUDING THE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THEY ' RE CONSIDERING– POSSIBLY.
> > POSSIBLY IN YOUR CLOSE', ALDERMAN MAR, I ' D APPRECIATE. WHAT THE AIM IS.
I ' M LOOKING AHEAD TO SUPPORTING THIS MOTION BUT ALONG. WITH OTHERS SERIOUSLY. THINKING ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD BE ENGAGED IN THIS AS COUNCIL.
MEMBERS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN POOTMANS. ANY INDIVIDUAL ELSE ON THE REFERENCE.
MOVEMENT? > > YOUR WORSHIP, I WOULD JUST.
MANAGEMENT OR 2 OTHERS.
YOU'' VE GOT 3 MEMBERS OF
. COUNCIL.
2 OTHERS TO BE APPOINTED BY.
COUNCIL TODAY.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WHAT.
=$.
=$ COUNCIL AMONG WHOM IS THE.
CHAIR.
OF LPT AND ALSO TWO VARIOUS OTHER PARTICIPANTS OF.
COUNCIL.
>> > > HE CLAIMED IT TWICE AFTER THAT. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: HIS.
> > OK. Inaudible]
> > SORRY, BUT ARE WE SUGGESTING. THAT 3 COUNCILLORS ARE GOING TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS IN
. COMBINATION WITH NO ONE ELSE,.
JUST THESE 3? BECAUSE THAT'' S WHAT THIS. REFERRAL SAYS.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: IT. ACTUALLY KIND OF DOES. > > IT DOES.
COME BACK TO LPT WITH THE REPORT. FROM THREE ALDERMEN.
SUFFICIENT BECAUSE I DESIRE TO KNOW.
WHO ELSE– > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi
>>: CONTAINER.
YOU RESPOND NOW, ALDERMAN MAR. > > OKAY.SO THE PURPOSE OF IT IS,
NUMBER. ONE, WHY DID I INTENDED TO USE IT AS.
A SMALL AD HOC GROUP? DUE TO THE FACT THAT I ASSUME THAT THERE ' S. SOME SEVERELY ESTABLISHED. PLACEMENTS BOTH ADMINISTRATIVELY ALONG WITH THE SECTOR.
I THINK THAT A SMALL GROUP OF. PARTICIPANTS OF COUNCIL LIKE WE HAVE DONE WITH SNOW AS WELL AS ICE AS WELL AS OTHER. COMMITTEES, THE PUBLIC SAFETY.
TASKFORCE, WILL ENABLE US TO BE ABLE TO DRILL DOWN TO THE REAL.
NITTY-GRITTY OF THE CONCERN, TO.
IDENTIFY, HEY, WHAT CANISTER HELP US AS A CITY, HOW DO WE WORK.
WITH EACH OTHER WITH ADMINISTRATION AND.
THE BRING as well as stakeholders TOGETHER A NEW STRATEGY THAT WILL.
MAKE SENSE FOR EVERYBODY. SO JUNE, I'' M SAYING THAT AS THE CURRENT DAY IF WE CONTAINER BRING IT.
BACK SOONER, THAT MAKES FEELING. THE CHAIR OF LPT OUGHT TO BE ON IT BECAUSE IT'' S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO.
LPT. 2 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO BE DETERMINED IN IN CAM TODAY. WE CANISTER MAKE An EXTREMELY FAST.
CHOICE AS TO THAT MUST BE ON THIS. AND ALSO WE'' RE GOING TO CONSIST OF.
THE– THIS TEAM WOULD HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DRAW FROM THE.
RESOURCES OF MANAGEMENT TO.
ASK THE STAKEHOLDERS BOTH PUBLIC AS WELL AS SECTOR TO FIND TOGETHER.
AND FUNCTION TOWARDS AN ARRANGEMENT.
THAT WILL MAKE SENSE AND ALSO PRODUCE A BRAND-NEW BYLAW AS An OUTCOME. AFTER THAT COME BACK WITH LPT AND.
THE RECORD BACK TO COUNCIL.I THINK IT MAY NOT BE AS. COMPREHENSIVE IN THE REFERENCE ACTIVITY,. BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE SIGNIFICANCES OF THERE WE COULD THINK OF THE. TERMS OF RECOMMENDATION REALLY, REALLY.
RAPIDLY IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS MUST RELOCATE FORWARD. THAT ' S THE RATIONALE. AND I ASSUME THAT WHILE WE ' VE ALL ENJOYED THIS FOUR-HOUR DEBATE,. THIS IS AN INELEGANT SOLUTION TO. THE PROBLEM AND WE CANISTER IN FACT PROGRESS ON IT IN SPITE OF. THE TRUTH THAT THIS MAINTAINS GOING.
BACK TO CPC AS WELL AS BOUNCING AROUND OUR ADMINISTRATION. DID THAT ASSISTANCE, ALDERMAN DEMONG? > > NO.
> > I JUST DESIRED TO KNOW WHO ELSE. >> YOU DESIRED ON THE TASKFORCE.
> > IF YOU WANT ME TO APPOINT PEOPLE,
>> CAN CONTAINER APPOINT ASSIGN. CURRENTLY.
I BELIEVE THAT'' S A VOLUNTEER. >
>> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I.
BELIEVE ALDERMAN DEMONG WILL BE.
AMONG THE INDIVIDUALS DESIGNATE. >> > > DEFINITELY. PETER, WELCOME ABOARD. YOU AND ANDRE– >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I.
THINK, IF I MAY, IF I MAY–.
>> > > I HAVE SIMPLY FOUND OUT IN THIS COUNCIL SPACE WHAT'' S WRITTEN–.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I.
THINK I LISTENED TO YOUR WORRY AS BEING WILL THIS INCLUDE.
MANAGEMENT. OR IS THIS JUST 3 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL GOING OFF AND ALSO PRODUCTION A.
DECISION. IS THAT RIGHT? >> > > PRACTICALLY.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: AND ALSO I.
THINK WHAT ALDERMAN MAR STATED WAS THAT THIS TASKFORCE WOULD, OF.
COURSE, DEAL WITH MANAGEMENT.
TO GO FORWARD.AND IF YOU INTEND TO ADD WORDS TO.
> > IF I WANTED IT TO– IF I JUST DESIRED IT TO
BE THAT I. WOULD HAVE MADE IT THE CHAIR OF. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU FOR NOT PRODUCTION IT THE MAYOR ALL BY HIMSELF.
[Inaudible]>> > > I'MEANT CPS, I ' M JOKING. I ' M JOKING. I THINK THE PURPOSE OF
IT, IF'I. PLACE ' T ADDRESSED THAT– >> > > I’M SORRY. I'' LL SIMPLY LEAVE AND ALSO YOU CONTAINER.
SHUT IF YOU DESIRE. >> > > OKAY. [Inaudible]> [Laughter] > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ANYBODY. ELSE ON THE REFERENCE MOTION? PRIOR TO I CALL ON ALDERMAN MAR TO CLOSE
. WE ' RE HAVING FUN BELOW THESE DAYS,.
>> INDIVIDUALS. ANYONE ELSE? ALDERMAN MAR TO CLOSE. > > YOU SIMPLY'TOLD ME TO SIT DOWN, CURRENTLY I ' M STANDING AGAIN. O.K.. SO I WISH THAT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL UNDERSTAND THE AIM OF.
IT. I'' M NOT TRYING TO MUDDY THE WATERS. RATHER, I'' M TRYING TO CREATE A.
SMALL ELEGANT OPTION IN WHICH WE CONTAINER HAVE A GROUP OF MEMBERS OF.
COUNCIL, 3 IN NUMBER, AMONG.
THEM BEING THE CHAIR OF LPT.WE CONTAINER FIGURE OUT WHO THOSE OTHER.
MEMBERS ARE GOING TO BE DURING.
THE IN CAM SESSION OR WE CANISTER POLL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL REGARDING A.
PASSION AND ALSO B WILLINGNESS TO ACCOMPLISH.
IT. APPEARS WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER.
THERE AND ALSO PERHAPS ALDERMAN.
PINCOTT'' S SHOWING HE'' S INTERESTED.
[Inaudible] NO, NO, NOT ME. BUT ALSO THE INTENT OF IT IS.
THAT WE CONTAINER REPORT BACK TO LPT.
WITH THE CHOICE NO LATER THAT THAN JUNE. , if WE CAN COME BACK SOONER AND.
.
CREATE TERMS OF REFERRAL AFTER THAT CERTAINLY WE'' RE GOING TO ATTRACT.
UPON THE RESOURCES OF OUR.
ADMINISTRATION, OF COURSE WE'' RE GOING TO SPEAK TO OUR. STAKEHOLDERS BOTH PUBLIC AND.
INDUSTRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES THE A LOT OF FEELING GIVEN THIS NEW.
THANK YOU. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU, ALDERMAN MAR. ON THE ACTIVITY TO REFER, ARE WE CONCURRED? ANY OPPOSED? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
( ROLL BEING CALLED).
(ROLL BEING CALLED). CARRIED, YOUR WORSHIP.
8-7. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. CARRIED.
ALDERMAN MAR, I WILL ACCEPT A. MOTION TO INCLUDE AS AN ITEM OF URGENT IN CAM BUSINESS THE. THANK YOU.
JUST TO ADD THIS AS AN IN VIDEO CAMERA. PRODUCT. ARE WE'AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED.
ALDERMAN MacLEOD WHILE WE ' RE >>.
>> AT IT, I THINK YOU HAD AN THING.
> > SECOND. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: RELOCATED. > > TO ADD TO THE IN VIDEO CAMERA ITEM AN THING OF URGENT SERVICE.
VISIT TO THE LIBRARY.
BOARD.
>> > > THE VISIT TO THE.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: YOU'' RE SECONDING, ALDERMAN FARRELL? > > YOUR WORSHIP, ON A POINT OF PROCEDURE. BEING AS COUNCIL SIMPLY APPROVED.
THIS APPOINTMENT TO THIS BOARD THAT STATED THAT WE'' RE. GOING TO PERFORM THIS TODAY, AT WHAT. POINT TODAY ARE WE GOING
>> TO BE DOING THIS? > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WE. SIMPLY ADDED IT TO THE AGENDA. > >> THAT'' S WHAT THE CONSULTATION.
IS? THAT'' S NOT LIBRARY BOARD. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: IT'' S. THE ONE THAT MAR ADDED.
>> > > SORRY, I MISSED OUT ON THAT. I WAS SIMPLY BELIEVING REGARDING HOW TO.
SURRENDER FROM CHAIR.
[Giggling]> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: YOU.
HAVE UNTIL WE OBTAIN TO THE IN.
CAM SESSION, ALDERMAN CHABOT. WE'' VE GOT ITEM 7.1 ON THE TABLE.
BELOW AND I'' M GOING TO COUNT ON. MISS SLOAN SINCE WE'' VE DISPOSED OF 7.2, CANISTER WE TABLE 7.1 AT THIS.
FACTOR?
>> > > YOUR WORSHIP, ON 7.1 … [Inaudible]>> >'> I ' M PREPARED TO IF YOU TAKE A. TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA THERE WAS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I MADE.
AT PLANNING COMPENSATION ON 2010.
OCTOBER 28, WHICH ESSENTIALLY– DIDN'' T. FUNDAMENTALLY, DID REVERSE THE.
RECOMMENDATION OF PLANNING COMISSION, OFFER FIRST READING TO.
THE LAW, AMEND THE PROPOSED.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: OK. I ' M PREPARED TO MOVE THAT.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:> GIVEN THAT, GIVEN THAT WE STILL DO.
REQUIRED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING,.
GIVEN THAT WHY DON'' T WE GO TO Mr. COPE AND ALSO LET'' S OBTAIN.
>> BEGUN. > > MANY THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP. THE PRODUCT THAT IS PRIOR TO YOU.
TODAY IS AN APPLICATION TO.
MARK A SMALL PIECE OF LAND, THE LOCATION DETAILED IN RED.
SURROUNDING TO McKNIGHT BLVD.
NORTHEAST BEING.006-HECTARES IN DIMENSION FROM THE EXISTING STI LAND.
USE DISTRICT TO A DC DIRECT.
CONTROL AREA TO ACCOMMODATE A DIGITAL THIRD CELEBRATION.
ADVERTISING AND MARKETING INDICATION. THE MOMS AND DAD PARCEL PRESENTLY HOUSES THE HERITAGE CHRISTIAN.
ACADEMY WHICH IS A PRIVATE.
COLLEGE. AT THE CURRENT TIME A 2 SIDED.
3RD PARTY MARKETING SIGN.
WITH A WEST FACING INDICATION BEING A DIGITAL 3RD PARTY ADVERTISING AND MARKETING.
INDICATION ARE LOCATED ON THE AREA TO.
BE DESIGNATED. THE INDICATION IN INQUIRY WITH THE.
WEST FACE SHOWING THERE, NEITHER.
SIGN HAS A LEGITIMATE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORIZATION ALLOWING FOR THE USAGE. USING HISTORY, A THIRD CELEBRATION.
MARKETING INDICATOR OR SIGNBOARD AS THEY'' RE COMMONLY CALLED WAS.
AUTHORIZED ON THIS WEBSITE AS A.
DISCRETIONARY USE UNDER THE I 2 AREA OF BYLAW 2 P 80. IN THE EARLY 1980s, WITH THE.
POSSIBILITY OF A REVIEW EVERY FIVE YEARS– A REVIVAL EVERY.
FIVE YEARS. THE LAST REVIVAL FOR THAT INDICATOR OCCURRED IN 1998. IN 200, AN INTEREST THE LAW 2.
P 80 TOOK PLACE WHICH BANNED 3RD PARTY ADVERTISING AND MARKETING SIGNS ON.
THIS SECTION OF McKNIGHT.
THROUGH TO THE EXISTING BYLAW 1
P. 2007. THE 3RD PARTY ADVERTISING SIGN.
IN 2008, THE 3RD PARTY SIGN.
WAS REMOVED AS WELL AS REPLACED WITH A.
NEW DIGITAL THIRD CELEBRATION ADVERTISING AND MARKETING INDICATOR AGAIN WITHOUT.
BENEFIT OF A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
FOR THE BRAND-NEW INDICATOR. THE INDICATOR OPPOSED NUMEROUS.
STIPULATIONS OF BYLAW 1 P 2007 IN.
TERMS OF SIGN AREA AND WAS ALSO NOT A PROVIDED USE IN THE SCI.
LAND USAGE AREA. THE NEW INDICATOR WENT THROUGH ENFORCEMENT ACTION FOR ELIMINATION.
WITH THE ORDER ON HOLD PENDING.
THE END RESULT OF THESE PROCEEDINGS. TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM AT THAT.
TIME, THE CANDIDATE APPLIED FOR A DEVELOPMENT AUTHORIZATION WHICH WAS.
REFUSED. THAT CHOICE WAS APPEALED TO SDAB WHICH LIKEWISE MAINTAINED THAT.
REFUSAL. AS A LAST RESOURCE, THIS LAND USAGE REDESIGNATION REQUEST IS THE.
LAST CHOICE AVAILABLE FOR THE.
CANDIDATE TO PRESERVE THE UNLAWFUL INDICATION. THE BYLAW THAT IS BEFORE YOU.
THAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SUBMITTED HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. ITS PRIMARY FOCUS IS TO ALLOW.
FOR THE USAGE TO OCCUR IN THE BASE SCI DISTRICT AS WELL AS EXEMPT THE INDICATION.
FROM THE AREA PROHIBITIONS.
THE ESTHETIC AND ALSO SAFETY-RELATED PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT. ONWARD BY MANAGEMENT.
IN CASE THE REDESIGNATION IS CONSIDERED ADMINISTRATION.
WOULD KEEP IN MIND THERE ARE STILL.
ISSUES WITH THE RATE OF ADJUSTMENT OF THE DIFFERENT IMAGES AS WELL AS.
WITH THE LIGHT INTENSITY.
FORECASTED BY THE DIGITAL INDICATOR ITSELF. IT MUST BE NOTED THAT THE.
SUGGESTED LAW ALSO DOES NOT ADDRESS THE OTHER BYLAW.
LEISURES WHICH WILL FEED ON.
THE WEBSITE, INCLUDING SEPARATION FROM OTHER NONTHIRD PARTY.
ELECTRONIC MESSAGE CENTRES OR.
SPLITTING UP FOR A MAJOR OPEN SPACE. THE LAW RELAXATIONS ARE NOTED.
ON THE DISPLAY AT TODAY TIME. WE DO HAVE SOME SITE PHOTOS. THIS IS REVEALING THE INDICATOR WHICH IS IN AREA, YOU TIN SIMPLY SEE IT.
TO THE RIGHT-HAND MAN OF YOUR.
SCREEN.THIS IS TAKEN
FROM THE.
JUNCTION OF McKNIGHT.
BLVD AT 19th STREET. ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE DO.
HAVE WITH THIS SIGN IS WITH.
REGARD TO SAFETY AND SECURITY AND ITS PLACE TO A MERGE LANE AS WELL AS THE.
WEAVING LANES FROM McKNIGHT.
And Also 19th STREET. THIS IS ANOTHER INDICATION SHOWING THE.
DISTANCE FROM AN EXISTING.
MESSAGE– OR ELECTRONIC MESSAGE SIGN WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE.
PORT OF CALL HOME, 19th.
STREET AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE INDICATION ONCE AGAIN IN THE HISTORY.
BESIDE McKNIGHT.
BOULEVARD. THE NEXT INDICATION– OR IMAGE.
INDICATES THE LOVED ONE ADJUSTMENT AT.
NIGHT IN STIPULATIONS OF THE INDICATOR IN COMPARISON TO THE SURROUNDING.
LIGHT SOURCES. A SIMILAR– REGRETTABLY THE REFLECTION IS BAD ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE.
[Inaudible] SHOULD ALSO NOTE WE HAVE A PHOTO REVEALING THE LOVED ONE.
ALTER OF INTENSITY OF LIGHT.
IN BETWEEN THE DIGITAL SIGN AND THE NEARBY … AS WELL AS THE NEARBY 3RD PARTY.
MARKETING SIGNS.PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT … SORRY. INDICATOR REVEALING THE FAMILY MEMBER ADJUSTMENT THROUGHOUT THE DAY OF THE LIGHTING.
OF THE ELECTRONIC MESSAGE SIGN.
WHICH IS IN THE FRONT FOREGROUND, AND TWO OTHER THIRD.
PARTY SIGNS FOUND FARTHER.
AWAY.
> > YES, THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: HIS.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ANYONE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: OKAY.IN THINKING ABOUT THE APPLICATION,
THE ADMINISTRATION KEPT IN MIND THAT
THE PROPOSAL WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE BYLAW. WITH RESPECT TO THE RESTRICTION
OF 3RD PARTY SIGNS ON McKNIGHT BOULEVARD NOR WITH
THE STIPULATIONS OF THE SCI
DISTRICT. THE USAGE IS NOT CONSIDERED
COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
INDEPENDENT SCHOOL WHICH IS THE PRIMARY USAGE ON THE TOPIC WEBSITE. FURTHERMORE, THE CONSOLIDATION
OF THE DIGITAL COMPONENT CAUSED A NUMBER OF ESTHETIC
AND ALSO WEB TRAFFIC SAFETY-RELATED
WORRIES WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN EFFECTIVELY ATTENDED TO. AND THOSE CAN BE EXPANDED UPON
BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS THAT REMAIN IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY. THE SIGN'' S AREA IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE SIGNIFICANT JUNCTION, COMBINE AND ALSO WEAVE LANES CREATES A SUBSTANTIAL PROSPECTIVE FOR DRIVER DISTURBANCE AND ALSO REPS FROM THE TRANSPORT DEPARTMENT CANISTER ADDRESS THAT CONCERN. MANAGEMENT FOUND NO PLANNING QUALITY FOR USE THAT OTHERWISE DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE COMMON REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND USAGE LAW. THERE WAS NO PHYSICAL CONDITIONS THAT WOULD SUGGEST UNIQUE FACTOR TO CONSIDER BE GIVEN TO THIS SPECIFIC USE.IN CONSIDERING THE APPLICATION, CALGARY PREPARATION COMMISSION HAD MANY CONCERNS. THESE INCLUDED THE VIABILITY OF THE USAGE, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO THE DIGITAL PART OF THE INDICATION, WHETHER OR NOT THE MAKE USE OF OF A DC DISTRICT WAS IN FACT THE IDEAL TECHNIQUE TO MANAGE THIS KEY IN OF AN APPLICATION. THERE WAS ALSO CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO PERMIT THE INDICATION TO REMAIN IN PLACE UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE OVERALL SIGN RESEARCH REVIEW IN 18 MONTHS TO 2 YEARS. AS THE WEB TRAFFIC SECURITY ISSUES LINKED WITH LOCATING THIS KIND OF A CHECK IN THIS CERTAIN LOCATION.AS THERE WAS A NUMBER OF VARYING LEVELS OF POINT OF VIEW ON THIS SIGN, CALGARY PLANNING COMISSION WAS UNABLE TO COME TO A SPECIFIC REFERRAL TO COUNCIL AS A.
OUTCOME OF A SPLIT MOTION. THUS, CPC RELOCATED TO ONWARD.
THE APPLICATION TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
HEARING WITHOUT THEIR REFERRAL. THEREFORE, THE ONLY.
RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU TODAY IS FROM ADMINISTRATION. THAT BEING THAT THE.
REDESIGNATION BE REJECTED AS WELL AS THAT LAW 1 D 2011 BE.
ABANDONED.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS, Mr. COPE. IF ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WISHES TO TABLE THIS, I HAVE BEEN EDUCATED BY Ms. SLOAN THAT.
ISSUE, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME.
TO PUT THAT ACTIVITY AHEAD. PRIOR TO WE OPEN THE PUBLIC.
HEARING. EXISTS SUCH A MOTION AROUND?
[Faint]>> > > YOUR PRAISE, I QUESTION IF I COULD ASK MISS SLOAN THE EFFECT. OF A TABLING. TO PUT IT SIMPLY, WOULD ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY CONTINUE OR.
WOULD IT GO INTO– BE ALLOWED.
TO CONTINUE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS EITHER THE TASKFORCE HAS.
COMPLETED ITS FUNCTION AND/OR THE.
SIGN TESTIMONIAL THAT ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDED …
[Indiscernible]>> > > YOUR PRAISE, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE CRITERIA OF THE.
TAILING. MY ADVICE IS THAT IF IT'' S TO BE TABLED IT MUST BE TABLED TO A. SPECIFICATION DATE SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE. TO READVERTISE FOR A NEW PUBLIC HEARING. GIVEN THAT A DETAILS DAY WAS. NOT SET FOR THE OTHER ISSUE TO RETURN TO COUNCIL,'I ' M NOT
SURE. HOW COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO
. WAGE THAT.
>> > > CORRECT ME IF I'' M MISDOING, YOUR.
PRAYER, BUT I BELIEVE THE.
TASKFORCE WAS TO REPORT BY JUNE, WAS IT NOT?
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THE.
TASKFORCE WAS SUPPOSED TO RECORD NO LATER THAN JUNE TO LPT. SUGGESTING AS IT WENDS ITS WAY.
WITH THE PROCEDURE IF THERE'' S A BYLAW MODIFICATION IT NEEDS TO GO TO. CPC WHICH MEANS IT MAY NOT GO.
BACK TO COUNCIL BEFORE SEPTEMBER UNLESS THE JOB REQUIRE OBTAINS IT TO.
LPT BY MAY.
>> > > I WAS TO TABLE THIS NOW TO NOT LATER THAN DECEMBER, WOULD.
> > YOUR WORSHIP, WED VER WE ' D HE. WE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A SPECIFIC DAY THAT THE PUBLIC RECOGNIZES TO COME.
BACK IF THEY DREAM TO TALK WITH.
THIS THING.
>> > > WHAT ' S THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING.
DAY IN DECEMBER? WOULD THAT PLEASE IT? >> > > IT COULD. ANOTHER PERSON ALTERNATIVE IS TO TABLE IT TO.
IF YOU SO CHOOSE AND ALSO IT CAN ONCE MORE BE RETABLED TO, a DAY SOONER.
A PARTICULAR DATE.
>> >'> I ' M ASSUMING ON MY FEET RIGHT HERE FOR A MINUTE. YOUR WORSHIP, I WILL CERTAINLY TABLE THIS.
> > Mr. CHAIR OR
Mr. MAYOR,. I ' M SIMPLY WONDERING IF THE LOCATION.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: YOU. KNOW, BY TREATMENT ANYONE CAN DO IT.
I BELIEVE THE LOCATION ALDERMAN IN.
INQUIRY IS ACTUALLY ALDERMAN CHABOT NOW.
[Faint] IT STATES CHABOT ON THE THING.IF AS A COURTESY YOU'' D LIKE TO.
>> SEE IF ALDERMAN JONES–. IF HE WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS TO, > > I WILL HAVE ALDERMAN JONES. THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IN.
>> SEPTEMBER GIVEN THE JULY HAS A TENDENCY TO BE
A LITTLE BIT OF A ZOO. > > Mayor >> Naheed Nenshi:.
ALDERMAN JONES? > > I TYPE OF LIKE THE ONE IN WAY. DUE TO THE FACT THAT I WASN ' T GOING TO BE.
BELOW. YOUR PRAISE, I WAS CONSIDERING. TABLING IT ANYHOW SINCE I REALLY FELT.
WITH THE BYLAW THAT WAS PRIOR TO US,
WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO. MOVE A SECTION OF GG WHICH IS.
McKNIGHT BOULEVARD SO I WAS CONSIDERING TABLING IT AND ALSO I WAS.
WAITING FOR MY TURN IN THE. LINEUP. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ACTIVITY.
TO TABLE THIS PRODUCT TO THE FIRST.
PUBLIC HEARING IN SEPTEMBER WHICH IS, MADAME CLERK?
12th OF SEPTEMBER. ALDERMAN LOWE IS SECONDING IT. ACTIVITY TO TABLE AS YOU RECOGNIZE IS.
NONDEBATABLE SO ON THIS ONE ARE.
WE AGREED? OH.
>> > > ALTHOUGH IT'' S NOT DEBATABLE,.
I ABSOLUTELY NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON SOMETHING.
BEFORE I CAN BALLOT ON THIS. THAT'' S RESPECT TO … [Indiscernible] IS IT CONTINUE?
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THAT'' S A MISS SLOAN CONCERN>>.
>> > > THANKS. > > YOUR PRAYER, THE PRESENT LAND USAGE WILL CERTAINLY BE IN LOCATION
AS WELL AS IF. THEY ' RE ABLE TO OBTAIN A. ADVANCEMENT LICENSE UNDER THEIR CURRENT LAND USE, THEY CONTAINER DO.
SO. THEY if THEIR SPECIFIC LAND USAGE DOES NOT ENABLE FOR IT.
THAT ' S SOMETHING POSSIBLY. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
Mr. COPE?
>> > > AT THE EXISTING TIME, THE VERMONT LICENSE THAT THEY HAD.
APPLY– ADVANCEMENT AUTHORIZATION THEY.
HAD APPLIED FOR WAS DECLINED. IT WAS DECLINED AT SDAB. TRADITIONALLY THE ENFORCEMENT.
ORDER WHICH IS STILL IN AREA IS RESISTED PENDING THE RESULT OF.
ALL THE OPTIONS FOR REVIEW.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ALL RIGHT AFTER THAT. ON THE MOVEMENT TO TABLE, THEN,.
ANY OPPOSED? VERY WELL THEN. THANK YOU.
THAT'' S CPC 2011-031 PROPOSED STREET NAME AND LAND
USE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ONE.
THING PRIOR TO YOU START.MEMBERS OF COUNCIL,
I ' M CLEANING. THE QUEUE ON THE LIGHTS JUST FOR.
SIMPLENESS. TURN IT if YOU DESIRED YOUR LIGHT.
BACK ON. ALL RIGHT. >> > > THANKS, Mr. CHAIRMAN. I DO HAVE COLOUR MAPPING RIGHT HERE.
REVEALING THE UPGRADED R 1 S AREAS THAT WERE SUPPLIED BY.
THE CANDIDATE IF THEY'' D LIKE TO. THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER. ALONG WITH PROPOSED STREET NAMES FOR THE INFLUENCED LOCATION.
THE AREA TO BE REDESIGNATION IS. 8.99-HECTARES AS OUTLINED IN RED AND BOUNDS ON SYMONS VALLEY ROADWAY.
NORTHWEST AND SAGE HILLSIDE DRIVE.
NORTHWEST ON THE EAST AND ALSO THE WEST SIDE RESPECTIVELY. RECOMMENDED REDESIGNATION WILL TAKE.
THE LANDS FROM THE EXISTING S-FUD UNIQUE OBJECTIVE URBAN.
ADVANCEMENT– FUTURE URBAN.
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND ALSO REDESIGNATE THE LANDS TO R 1.
RESIDENTIAL, R 1 S RESIDENTIAL.
TO SUIT ADDITIONAL COLLECTIONS ALONG WITH M 1 MULTI-RESIDENTIAL.
LOW PROFILE DISTRICT. THE SUMMARY PREPARE FOR THE AREA WAS CONSIDERED BY PLANNING.
COMMISSION AND APPROVED. THIS IS AN INSTANCE OF IT. THIS MAPPING REVEALS THE UPDATED R.
1 S DISTRICT WHICH CALGARY.
PLANNING COMPENSATION IS RECOMMENDING OCCURS ON THE.
FLANKAGE LOTS ALONG THE ROADS IN.
ALL THE INFLUENCED AREAS.THE PROPOSED REDESIGNATIONS WERE. SUSTAINED BY PLANNING
COMISSION. MUST LIKEWISE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE CHANGES TO THE R 1 S WERE.
SUSTAINED BY THE CANDIDATE. THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR COUNCIL TO ADOPT PROPOSED.
STREET NAMES OF SAGE BLUFF, SAGE.
HOLLOW AND ALSO SAGE FACTOR. ADOPT A SUGGESTED REDESIGNATION.
FROM SFUD TO R 1, R 1 S AND ALSO M 1. AND PROVIDE THREE ANALYSES TO BYLAW 22 D 2011.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THANKS, Mr. COPE. ANY QUESTIONS OF INFORMATION.
ALDERMAN LOWE? WE'' LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE DESIRE TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR.
OF THIS ITEM? ANYONE DESIRE TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR? >> > > YOUR WORSHIP, MEMBERS OF.
COUNCIL, WITH BROWN AN.
> > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER. I DON ' T SEE
RECREATION ENTERTAINMENT ANYTHING LIKE THAT. > > SURE.
TO THE SOUTHWEST GENESIS HAD AUTHORIZATION FOR– THERE ' S A. REGIONAL COMMUNITY CENTRE WITH A TOD. AREA JUST SOUTHWEST, UNITED HAS APPROVAL FOR A MIX OF MORE. SOLITARY HOUSEHOLD AND MULTI-DIRECTLY.
TO THE WEST. DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH IS THE.
PARTNER OF THE REDEVELOPMENT.
CELL. THIS CELL WAS SPECIAL IN THAT IT.
WAS SUBDIVIDED WHEN IT WAS WITH.
THE MD AS WELL AS GOT LINKED IN.SO THAT LOCATION TO THE SOUTH GOT.
REDEVELOPED– OR IT'' S GONE.
THROUGH LAND USE AS WELL AS IT'' S ALL HIGH THICKNESS MULTIFAMILY. AND AFTER THAT TO THE EAST WE. HAVE AN AUTHORIZATION FOR A MIXED USAGE AREA AND ALSO SOME RESIDENTIAL, A.
INSTITUTION SITE AND TO THE NORTH.
SOME EVEN MORE HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY. AS WELL AS SIMPLY TO THE EAST OF THAT IS.
THE WEST NOSE CREEK LOCATION. IT'' S QUITE– OVERALL WHEN YOU.
CONSIDER THE WHOLE AREA QUITE A.
LITTLE BIT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN AUTHORIZED TO DAY. >> > > ANY COMMERCIAL RETAIL?
>> > > TO THE SOUTHWEST. THAT ENTIRE AREA, THERE'' S A FUTURE MIXED USE AS WELL AS THERE ' S THE. WORKPLACE TRANSPORTATION CENTER. BASICALLY EVERY LITTLE THING BECAUSE SOUTH AREA THERE IS ALL REGIONAL.
COMMERCIAL.
>> > > AND THAT ' S 600 METRE LINE THAT I SEE THERE?
>> > > YES. THAT ' S THE TOD LINE.
>> > > WHICH INCLUDES … > >
>> IT CONSISTS OF A SECTION– THE.
DENSITIES TO THE SOUTH WERE AUTHORIZED AT 31.8 DEVICES PER ACRE. WHEN YOU BALANCE THROUGHOUT, WHEN.
WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH MANAGEMENT, WE LOOKED AT THIS AND.
THEY WERE HOPING FOR EVEN MORE OF AN.
8 TO 10 DEVICES PER ACRE WITH THE STUFF TO THE NORTH TO SORT OF.
STABILIZE THE COMMUNITY. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY I BELIEVE WE WOUND UP AT 17.2 DEVICES.
PER ACRE.
>> > > WHAT ABOUT MR COMMITMENT? >> > > THE MR FOR THIS AREA WAS.
GIVEN TO THE MD, THERE WERE 2.
WEBSITES THAT WERE PRODUCED. A WEBSITE DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH IF.
YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE REALLY TOP OF THE.
THERE'' S A COMMUNITY RESERVE. WE ' VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH PARKS AND ALSO THE TRUTH– OR MAYBE.
THERE'' S AN CHANCE TO DO A.
PERSONALITY AND ALSO TRANSFER SOME INTO THE CENTRAL COMPONENT OF THE.
NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'' RE STILL SERVICING THAT.THERE '
S SOME RESEARCHES AS WELL AS WHAT.
NOT AS WELL AS COMMUNICATION WE NEED TO.
HAVE WITH PARKS. JUCC DID LOOK AT THAT AS COMPONENT OF.
OUR APPLICATION AS AN ALTERNATIVE. IF EVERY LITTLE THING WORKED OUT WELL AND, and also THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE.
IT WAS ACCEPTABLE BY BOTH CELEBRATIONS.
THAT THEY WOULD ASSISTANCE A PERSONALITY. SO WE'' RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT.
THAT. >> > > BUT THAT DOESN'' T KIND COMPONENT OF.
>> THIS–. > > THAT WOULD BE RELOCATING A PIECE OF MR WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY. IN OTHER WORDS RELOCATING SOME.
> >'IT ' S NOT A DEMAND. > > DIDN ' T MEAN TO BE– THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN CHABOT.
THANK YOU. ANY INDIVIDUAL ELSE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR OF THIS PROPOSITION?
[Faint]> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WE CONTAINER.
ASK Ms.OBERT TO COME BACK. > > I ' M OK.
>> >'> Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ANYBODY.
ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR? ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO TALK AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL? ANYBODY WISHES TO TALK IN.
RESISTANCE. VERY WELL AFTER THAT. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND ALSO TAKE QUESTIONS FOR MANAGEMENT AND/OR.
SUGGESTION. ALDERMAN LOWE. >> > > YOUR WORSHIP,'I ' LL STEP THE.
REFERRALS PREPARING.
PAYMENT 3 READINGS OF THE BYLAW AND ALSO I MENTION, COUNCIL,.
THAT WHEN WE PUT THE R.
1 S GREAT DEALS.
IN, THIS WAS REALLY METICULOUSLY DONE GIVEN THE SHAPE AND NATURE OF.
THE LAND AND THE MEANS THE.
NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BEING ESTABLISHED. SO THE– YOU'' LL NOTIFICATION THAT THE.
R 1 S WHOLE LOTS HAVE BEEN POSITIONED IN.
FLANKAGE FACILITATE CAR PARKING AS WELL AS THE POLICIES AROUND R 1 S AS WE.
UNDERSTAND IT TODAY. I'' D ASK YOUR ASSISTANCE. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I FEEL.
LIKE THAT ISSUE MAY COME UP.
LATER IN THE AGENDA SOMEPLACE. SIMPLY A SENSE. ALDERMAN COLLEY-URQUHART.
SECONDED. ALDERMAN CARRA?
>> > > THANKS.'I ' VE GOT An INQUIRY WITH BOTH LONG LINEAR TYPE OF BLACK.
FRONTAGES THAT INTERNALLY I. ASSUME OVERLOOK TO THE INTERNAL ROAD NETWORK BUT BACK ON SAGE.
HILL DRIVE NORTHWEST AND BACK ON.
TO SYMONS VALLEY ROAD NORTHWEST RESPECTIVELY. HAS THERE BEEN ANY FACTOR TO CONSIDER.
FOR THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UPKEEP AS WELL AS MAINTENANCES OF THOSE.
DEFENCE WAYS THAT WILL BE.
BACKING ONTO THOSE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS?
>> > > I BELIEVE BASIC TECHNIQUE,.
AND I WOULD STAND FIXED, IS THAT ANY CRITERION FENCES THAT.
ARE BUILT AS PART OF THE.
COMMUNITY PROCESS ARE LOCATED ON PERSONAL PROPERTY. AND ALSO FOR THAT REASON WOULD BE THE.
OBLIGATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY PROPRIETOR.
>> > > SO WHAT WE BEGINNING TO GET INVOLVED IN.
IS THE SORT OF MESS THAT WE'' VE ALREADY FOUND OUT THAT WE'' VE MADE.
FOR OURSELVES WHERE YOU HAVE A. PRIVATELY OWNED FENCES THAT BECOME PART OF NUMEROUS STATES OF.
REPAIR WORK AS WELL AS DISREPAIR, AND NO.
IMPLIES TO HANDLE THEM EN MASSE.
>> > > UNLESS THE FENCING IS BEING.
KEPT AS PART OF An AUDIO DEPLETION GADGET–.
>> > > THAT ' S WHAT I ' M ASKING, YES. HAS THAT BEEN THE INSTANCE? > >> I'' M NOT SURE FOR SAGE HILL. DRIVE NORTHWEST, I THINK THAT.
MAY SIMPLY BE A COMMON FENCE TO AVOID GAIN ACCESS TO TO SAGE HILL.
DRIVE. I BELIEVE ALONG INDICATION REVIEW MONTHS– SYMONS VALLEY ROADWAY.
NORTHWEST THERE IS A QUALITY.
DIFFERENTIAL THERE SO THE NEED FOR NOISE ATTENUATION FENCE.
MAY NOT BE REQUIRED. I'' D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE JUT LINE PLAN TO CONFIRM. THAT. > >– RUNDOWN PLAN TO CONFIRM THAT.
>> > > AS A WHOLE, I UNDERSTAND THE.
FORMAT OF THIS BUT I THINK THAT WE'' RE PRODUCTION MISTAKES BY. PRODUCING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT IS SINGLE.
LOADED AND BORDERED BY RIGHT OF METHOD ON BOTH SIDES. WHAT WE'' RE BASICALLY DOING IS.
CREATING PROPERTIES THAT COULDN'' T EVEN BEGIN TO. ADDRESS– THEY'' VE GOT TWO.
ROADS, BASICALLY.SO FROM THE PROPERTY TAX OBLIGATION BASE.
THAT WE'' RE PULLING OUT OF THE.
LOCATION, WE'' RE DOUBLE LOADING THE TAX TONS. AND ALSO FROM A MAINTENANCE.
VIEWPOINT, WE'' RE STARTING TO CREATE PROBLEMS. WAS ANY OF THIS DISCUSSED AT.
CPC? >> > > NONE OF THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT.
> > AND THAT ' S RIGHT ACROSS THE. ROAD FROM THE SCHOOL WEBSITE? > > IS THERE ANY– IS THERE ANY ARRANGEMENT MADE FOR CHILDREN WHO LIVE.
IN THIS AREA TO CROSS.
SYMONS VALLEY INSTITUTION SITE? >> > > ONLY AT THE CROSSWAYS.
REGULATED BY TRAFFIC CONTROL.
>> > > IS IT A MONO SIDEWALK OR A SEPARATED PATHWAY ALONG. 136th method? > > WHICH IS THE SOUTH BOUNDARY THERE
>>? > > YEAH. > > I SUSPECT THAT WOULD POSSIBLY BE A MONO. COULD BE EITHER, APPARENTLY.
>> > > IT COULD BE EITHER?
>> > > COULD BE EITHER.
> > NO–. > > WORKED OUT–. > > GROWTH ARRANGEMENT WITH COMPONENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UPKEEP OF THE– BECAUSE WE'' VE ALREADY OBTAINED OURSELVES INTO.
ARE WE REPEATING MISTAKES OF THE PAST? > > YOUR PRAYER, POSSIBLY I COULD JUST ADD THERE IS A REVIEW.
UNDERWAY CURRENTLY OF THE FENCING.
UPKEEP PLAN FOR THE FACTORS YOU HAVE ACTUALLY DETERMINED AND ALSO.
IT'' S BEING LED BY THE DIRECTOR.
OF HIGHWAYS AS WELL AS I BELIEVE ALDERMAN STEVENSON HAS BEEN ONE OF THE.
PEOPLE LEADING THE CHARGE BEHIND.
THERE IS A TESTIMONIAL GOING ON. I'' M NOT CERTAIN OF THE
TIME FRAMESTRUCTURE
HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS IN THE PAST OF.
EXACTLY THE NATURE THAT YOU'' RE IDENTIFYING. THERE ISN ' T A FAST ANSW TO. IT
>>.
> > SO I ' VE ALSO ASKED TO BE.
PART– ALDERMAN STEVENSON, HAS. > > IT HASN ' T MET.
THREE OR 4 WEEKS EARLIER JUST TO.
OBTAIN THE ROUND ROLLING. >> >'> I ' M EAGER TO BE A PART OF.
THAT. AS WELL AS I'' M SIMPLY QUESTIONING ARE WE SIMPLY CREATING EVEN MORE OF A MESS FOR.
OURSELVES BEFORE WE'' VE SOLVED IT. > > THE SIMPLICITY I WHY I RESPOND TO IS TO– VERY EASY ANSWER IS TO PUT THE. UPKEEP OF THAT FENCING INTO.
DOES THAT HAPPEN>> HERE OR AT THE. DB PHASE? > > EVEN WITH THE IDEA THAT YOU ' RE MAKING THAT.
ISN'' T THE RESPONSE AS I UNDERSTAND.
IT.IT ' S QUITE A COMPLICATED WEB OF.
LEGAL DETAILS. THERE ISN'' T A BASIC SOLUTION TO IT AND WE COULDN ' T DO SOMETHING.
HERE ON THE FLOORING OF COUNCIL IN.
THAT RESPECT. >> > > WOULD IT HAPPEN AT THIS PHASE.
OR WOULD IT OCCUR AT THE DP.
PHASE? SOLVING THIS IN REQUISITES OF–.
>> > > THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT.
PERMIT REQUIRED FOR THAT. >> > > OKAY SO THEY GO RIGHT TO A.
STRUCTURE AUTHORIZATION.
>> > > THE PERSON HOMES DO THEIR– THE COMMON FENCE WOULD.
BE PROVIDED. BY THE DEVELOPER. IT'' S THE CONCERN OF LONG-TERM.
UPKEEP THAT WE ARE.
> > SO IN THE ABSENCE OF HAVING SOLVED IT, WE'' RE CREATING EVEN MORE. > > WELL, WE'' RE HOPING TO FIND A SERVICE, BUT WE ARE ADD TO THIS.
EXISTING DILEMMA.
>> > > OKAY.
THANK YOU. > > NO, ONLY THE OUTLINE PLAN HASN ' T BEEN AUTHORIZED.
THE CONDITION– TERMS OF. GROWTH? > > NO, AS MUCH AS THAT LICENSE OF.
FENCING.
>> > > NO, NOTHING CURRENTLY. >> > > O.K.. WE PLACE'' T REALLY CREATED.
> > OKAY. > >'WE ' RE WORKING ON IT. > > IN REGARDS TO REGIONAL.
MOVEMENT CHOICES, ALL I SEE.
I WEAR'' T SEE ANY REGIONAL. > > BELIEVE THE PATHS WERE.
SHOWN IN THIS PLACE MAP.
RUNNING ALONG THE ABYSS ALONG 37th– OR SORRY, SAGE HILL.
DRIVE NORTHWEST, THE RED LINES. SO THIS AREA WILL CONNECT TO THE WEST, DOW DOWN TO THE GORGE SYM.
AND ALSO OVER TO WEST NOSE CREEK. ASIDE FROM THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO CONNECT THROUGH THE PATHWAY.
SYSTEM RIGHT INTO THE REGIONAL NETWORK.
ALONG THE CREEK. >> > > UNLESS SOMETHING COMES UP.
SOUTHERN THROUGH THAT.
OTHER GROWTH.
>> > >'WE ' LL LEAVE THAT– I THINK.
THAT IS THE CASE BUT THERE'' S. ALWAYS THAT CHOICE I INTEND. >> > > THAT HASN ' T BEEN SUBJECT TO A.
STRATEGY YET?
>> > > THE LANDS TO THE SOUTH HAVE OVERVIEW PLAN APPROVAL AND ALSO LAND.
USAGE.
>> > > OK. AS WELL AS NO LOCAL PATH GOING.
VIA THERE?
>> > > NO, I BELIEVE IT ' S SHOWN ALONG SAGE HILLSIDE DRIVE.
>> > > AND ALSO INS WHICH THAT FUTURE SCHOOL.
WEBSITE IS THERE, WHAT IS THAT I SEE IN BASE RIGHT-HAND CORNER,.
IS THAT A LITTLE LITTLE BIT OF GREEN.
AREA THERE, FUTURE SCHOOL SITE TO THE EAST? YES, IF YOU MAINTAIN COMPLYING WITH THAT.
THROUGH, YEAH, RIGHT THERE, RIGHT IN THAT LITTLE CORNER DOWN.
THERE IS THAT A LITTLE OF.
ENVIRONMENT-FRIENDLY THAT I SEE THERE. >> > > YES, THE RED LINE WOULD BE.
THE PATH THAT RUNS THROUGH.
THE NOSE CREEK SYSTEM.THAT WOULD BE
THE BORDER.
IN BETWEEN THE ADJACENT– I.
BELIEVE THAT'' S THE EXISTING FARM DOWN THERE WHICH IS.
> > I'SEE, I ' M SORRY, YEAH, THAT. WOULD BE An ADAPTER FROM THE STREET INTO THE NOSE CREEK PARK.
SYSTEM, WEST NOSE CREEK PARK.
SYSTEM. >> > > ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IT MAY.
THOSE ARE ALL THE CONCERNS I.
HAVE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: MANY THANKS.
QUITE, ALDERMAN CHABOT, ANY.
QUESTIONS OR MANAGEMENT OR ARGUMENT ON THIS MATTER? OF COURSE.
>> > > WHOSE DIAGRAM IS THIS? WHO IS THE WRITER OF THIS.
LAYOUT?
>> > > I WAS PROVIDED TO United States BY BROWN AND ALSO ORGANIZATION.
>> > > I GUESS MY ONLY INQUIRY IS.
WHY A PATHWAY WHICH IS THE LINEAR ATTRIBUTE IS MARKED BY.
AN ASTERISK.
>> > > SORRY, THOSE RED ASTERISKS, AM I REVIEWING THAT RIGHT THAT.
THAT'' S A SUGGESTED SIDEWALK>>. > > NO, THE WALKWAYS ARE SHOWN IN RED. THE RED.
>> > > SO WHAT ' S THE ASTERISK? AS REPORTED BY THE TALE. THE RED STARRY THING.
>> >'> I ' M SORRY, THEY NECESSITY BE THE THREE-METRE WALKWAYS THAT.
CONNECT ROADWAYS TO OTHER ROADWAY.
MIDSECTION BETWEEN LOTS.ROADWAYS BETWEEN LOTS. > > OH, I SEE THERE.
>> THERE ARE LINKS VIA DEAD END FOR PEOPLE AS OPPOSED.
TO VEHICLES.
>> > > MAJOR ROADWAYS. >> > > O.K..
>> THANKS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS, ALDERMAN MAR. ALD LOWE, DID YOU WISHED TO SHUT? WHAT DID I STATE? OH, PRECIOUS!
( GIGGLING).
CLOSED. ON THE SUGGESTIONS, AFTER THAT,.
ARE WE AGREED?
>> > > CONCURRED >>. > > ANY OPPOSED? I BELIEVE I JUST SAW TWO, LOWE–.
OH, MY GOSH. LOSING ALL YOUR CALLED. CARRA AS WELL AS FARRELL ARE OPPOSED. ANY PERSON ELSE? OKAY. WE'' LL GO INTO THE ANALYSES IN.
ANY OPPOSED? CARRA IS OPPOSED AND FARRELL.
AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? ALL. HOW DO WE DO THAT? SECOND ANALYSIS OF THE BYLAW? SAME DIVISION, ARE WE CONCURRED? ANY OPPOSED? CONSENT FOR 3RD ANALYSIS.
OF THE BYLAW, THIS ONE I HAVE TO.
DO SEPARATEDLY. AGREED?
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK YOU, Mr. COPE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
> > IS THERE ANY– IS THERE ANY STIPULATION MADE FOR CHILDREN THAT LIVE.
> > HOW DO I FIND OUT CONCERNING THE.
> > THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSE DO THEIR– THE COMMON FENCE WOULD.ANY OPPOSED? EXTREMELY WELL AFTER THAT. THIRD READING OF THE LAW SAME
DEPARTMENT, AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.
OFFERED AS A COMMUNICATION ACCESSIBILITY MEASURE AND IS NOT
MEANT AS A VERBATIM
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PROCESS. IT MAY BE if MISTAKES OCCUR
BECAUSE OF PERSON ERROR, TECHNICAL
PROBLEMS, OR AN INABILITY ON THE PART OF THE WRITER TO HEAR
OR UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING
SAID. WHILE BEST SHOT ARE MADE TO RECORD AS CLOSELY AS
POSSIBLE WHAT IS BEING CLAIMED, THE
CAPTIONS CAN NOT BE RELIED UPON AS A CERTIFIED ACCURATE RECORD
OF THE PROCEEDINGS.”” ROADWAY
CLOSURE AND ALSO LAN LAND-USE REDESIGNATION IN SCARBOROUGH,
THING CPC 2011-32.
>> > > MANY THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP.IT INCORPORATES A ROAD CLOSURE
APPLICATION, 2RC 1 THE SURROUNDING
LAND USAGE IN WEBSITE. THE LAND CONCERNED IS SHOWN ON
RED IN THE AREA MAP AND THE
LAND WHICH PRESENTLY FORMS COMPONENT OF THE CHURCH PROPERTY AND IS
OPTIONAL FOR TRAVEL. PROPOSITION IS TO DISPOSE OF THIS CLOSED ROADWAY AND ALSO OFFER THE LAND OR
EXCHANGE THE LAND WITH THE
CHURCH ON THE ADJACENT SITE.THE PROPOSITION WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BY INTENDING COMMISSION.
THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE PROPOSED CLOSURE AS WELL AS PROVIDE THREE ANALYSES TO BYLAWS 3C-2011. AS WELL AS SECONDLY THAT THEY ADOPT A. PROPOSED REDESIGNATION FROM. UNDESIGNATED ROADWAY RIGHT OF WAY TO RC 1 AND OFFER THREE
ANALYSES. TO LAW 23-D-2011. AREA CONCERNED BEING SHOWN ON THE SCREEN NOW. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK. YOU, Mr. COPE.
>> ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION. FOR ADMINISTRATION? ALDERMAN CARRA, CLARIFICATION? > > I ' M ASSUMING THAT THE. LAND-USE REDESIGNATION IS TO.
BRING IT– IS THE
CHURCH CURRENTLY THE–. > > THE CHURCH IS> CURRENT ZONED.
RC 1. >> > > OK, THANK YOU.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THANKS, Mr. RANGE. WE'' LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
,. ANYONE DESIRE TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR.
OF THIS APPLICATION? ANYONE DESIRE TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR? ANY PERSON DESIRE TO TALK IN.
OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION? ANYBODY WISH TO TALK IN.
ALL RIGHT, THEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. > > AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE SUGGESTION TO THE.
MANAGEMENT. THANKS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU. ALDERMAN FARRELL IS SECONDLY. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONVERSATION ON.
THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT, THEN, ON THE REFERRALS ARE WE AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED. LAW 3C2011, FIRST READING OF.
THE BYLAW ARE WE AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? BROUGHT, SECOND READING OF THE.
BYLAW ARE WE AGREED? CONSENT FOR 3RD READING.
THIRD ANALYSIS OF THE LAW ARE WE AGREED? CONSENT FOR THIRD ANALYSIS OF THE LAW ARE WE AGREED? AND ALSO THIRD ANALYSIS OF THE BYLAW.
THANK YOU. ITEM 8.3, PLEASE. CPC-2011-33. LANLAND-USE REDESIGNATION IN SHAPREL. > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE.
>> THE LOCATION IS OUTLINED IN RED ON YOUR LOCATION MAP ON THE DISPLAY. THE PROPOSAL IS TO TAKE THE LAND.
FROM THE EXISTING R2M RESIDENTIAL LOW THICKNESS MULTIPLE.
RESIDENCE DISTRICT AND.
REDESIGNATE THE LANDS TO R2 RESIDENTIAL ONE AS WELL AS 2 HOME.
DISTRICT. THE PURPOSE OF THE REDESIGNATION IS TO ENABLE THE PERSON.
SITES WHICH HAVE BEEN FORMERLY.
APPROVED TO HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH NO LOT LINE TYPES SINGLE.
SEPARATED DEVELOPMENT. SHOULD NOTE AS An OUTCOME OF THIS REDESIGNATION THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE NO.
CHANGE FOR THE ACTUAL THICKNESS OF.
THE WEBSITE, 59 GREAT DEALS IN FACT CONTINUING TO BE DEVELOPED. ROPOSED REDESIGNATION WILL CERTAINLY ENABLE.
FOR THE SOLITARY DEATTACHED RESIDENCES TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION An USE LEADING.
TO A DISCRETIONARY ADVANCEMENT.
PERMIT FOR EACH AND EVERY OF THE SITES.THEREFORE CONSIDERATION OF THE. FACTS ARE SUGGESTING THAT.
COUNCIL ADOPT A PROPOSED REDESIGNATION FROM R2M TO R2 AND. THAT THREE ANALYSES BE GIVEN TO. PROPOSED LAW 24D-2011.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS. SIGNIFICANTLY, Mr. COPE. ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION FOR ADMINISTRATION, ALDERMAN. CHABOT? > > MANY THANKS YOUR WORSHIP. Mr. COPE, R2 LISTS SECONDARY
>>. SUITE SAYS AS A PERMITTED USAGE SO. , if IT CHANGE TO R2 IT COULD BE 59 WHOLE LOTS WITH SECOND–.
–.
> > PERMITTED USES THERE WOULD BE. THAT CHANCE FOR SECONDARY SUITES IN EACH OF THE SYSTEMS,.
YES. > > THANKS, YOUR PRAYER. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
WE ' LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ON PART OF GEN TAR, WE ' RE THE APPLICATIONS, I ' M HAPPY TO. ANSWER ANY INQUIRIES.
> > > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi
>> >>: I HAVE. ONE. I THOUGHT I LISTENED TO Mr.COPE SAY
THAT THE TOTAL DENSITY IS NOT.
CHANGING.
>> > > IT WON ' T CHANGE. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SO.
WE'' RE MOVING TO A PLACE WHERE IT
. COULD HAVE DUPLEXES. >> > > IT COULD HAVE TAKEN.
SEMIDETACHED AND ALSO INSTEAD WE'' RE. TAKING A LOOK AT A DIFFERENT PRODUCT THAT MAINTAINS THE EXACT SAME THICKNESS,.
EXCEPT WITH THE ABSOLUTELY NO GREAT DEAL LINE IT.
OFFERS ANOTHER PRODUCT IN THIS AREA. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THESE.
WILL CERTAINLY BE DETACHED.
>> > > YES, THE MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS THE WAY IT'' S BEEN WHOLE LOT OUT WE COULD.
DO EITHER MEANS. THE ZERO LOT LINE OR THE SEMIDETACHED.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE.
CANDIDATE, AL ALDERMAN CARRA?
>> > > YES, CAN YOU OFFER ME A LITTLE MORE CLEARNESS AS TO WHAT THAT.
> > SURE. THIS HERE IS JUST An EXAMPLE OF
. WHAT A ZERO WHOLE LOT LINE PRODUCT WOULD APPEARANCE LIKE.
SUBMITTED FOR THIS LOCATION AS WELL AS WHETHER WE GO SEMI DETACHED.
UNITS OR WE GO WITH THE SAMPLE.
STREETSCAPE, IT WOULD WHOLE LOT OUT EXACTLY THE SAME. THE SOMETHING WE WILL NEED TO DO.
WITH THE ZERO LOT LINE IS WE DO NEED TO SUBMIT A COMPREHENSIVE.
DEVELOPMENT LICENSE FOR THE WHOLE.
AREA DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU'' RE GOING WITH A NO WHOLE LOT LINE. THERE'' S BASICALLY A RELAXATION.
AS WELL AS THERE'' S SOME OTHER BUILDING REGULATIONS COMPONENTS THAT BEGIN. BUT THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE ANOTHER PERSON LEVEL.
OF APPLICATION THAT OBTAINS SUBMITTED. ON An EXTENSIVE DEGREE AND ALSO.
THAT WILL CERTAINLY PROVIDE THE CITY THE ASSURANCES OF THE ITEM THAT.
WOULD BE GOING INTO THE ZERO GREAT DEAL.
LINE ITEM.
>> > > EXPLAIN WHAT NO GREAT DEAL LINE.
HOW THAT RELATES TO WHAT LOOKS.
LIKE– >> > >'IT ' S A TYPICAL. IT OFFERS A FIVE-FOOT DISTANCE. IN BETWEEN THE RESIDENCES.
THERE ' S FIRE BUILDING.
COMPONENTS THAT ARE PART OF THE. HOUSES SO THEY END UP A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TOGETHER SO. BASICALLY YOU'' RE ALMOST TAKING.
THE DISTANCE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE WITH A SEMI, YOU'' RE OFFERING A.
LITTLE LITTLE BIT EVEN MORE KIND OF BETWEEN.
YOUR HOMES, NOT AS LONG AS YOU WOULD OBTAIN IN A TYPICAL.
SUBDIVISION OR A NORMAL R1.
ZONING, FOR INSTANCE, OR R2 ZONING BUT IT JUST BRINGS THEM A.
LITTLE BIT LITTLE BIT AND YOU GIVE OFFER
DIFFERENT PRODUCT SO ITEM END UP WITH A SINGLE FAMILY SOLITARY.
AT THE EXACT SAME THICKNESS LEVEL AS A.
SEMI.SO A DIFFERENT VARIOUS FOR THE. PRESENTLY AS SIMPLY RESPONDING TO EXTREMELY WELL. GEN CELEBRITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE HE ' S BEEN IN CONTACT.
MYSELF.DO YOU HAVE ANY INQUIRIES? > > NO, I ' M THINKING ABOUT THAT. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE '>> RE GOING FOR LIKE, YOU UNDERSTAND, THE THICKNESS. OF TOWNHOUSES WITHOUT THE. ECOLOGICAL EFFECTIVENESS OF EVENT WALLS, SO IF WE ' RE DOING.
THE BENEFITS AS WELL AS I WOULD HOPE IT ' S KIND OF LIKE THE FLOOD OF. FEET THAT DOESN ' T ALLOW FOR LOW. UNDER THE FIRE CODE SO I ' M JUST CURIOUS.
ALERT YOU WE ' RE GOING PAST OUR JURISDICTION ON PUBLIC HEARING. I ' LL ALLOW IT BECAUSE IT ' S.
INTERESTING. >> >'> I ' M GOING TO REQUEST A POINT.
>> OF EXPLANATION ON THAT PARTICULAR. > >'PAUL WITH GENSTAR. I CAN
' T SOLUTION THAT CONCERN.
UNDERSTANDING IS THERE IS NOT WINDOWS ON THE RESIDENCES THERE. > > THIS IS NOT IN THE INTERNAL CITY.
WHERE YOU SEE INFILLS THAT SOME.
OF THEM ARE ATTACHED AND ALSO SOME OF THEM ARE DETACHED BUT THEY'' RE. QUITE NEAR TO EACH OTHER. THIS SIMPLY PERMITS YOUR HOME TO BE BUILT PRECISELY THE BUILDING LINE.
AND THERE'' S AN ACCESSIBILITY EASEMENT>.
> > OKAY.SO YOU HAVE ONE WALL OF THE.
HOME ON THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LINE AND ALSO.
YOU GOT 5 FEET AND ALSO THEN YOU GOT THE WALL OF THE HOUSE. EXISTS A SIDE YARD.
CONTEMPLATED IN THAT SPACE OR THERE–.
>> > > THERE ' S ACCESS EASEMENT
ON. THE OTHER SIDE OF EACH HOUSE. THERE'' S AN GAIN ACCESS TO EASEMENT SO.
THE VARIOUS OTHER HOUSE HAS ACCESS ALONG.
THE SIDE BACKYARD. THIS PRODUCT IS ACTUALLY QUITE.
COMMON IN THE CIT CITY OF CALGA.
>> > > OKAY.
>> THANK YOU.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. THANKS, ALDERMAN CARRA AND ALSO JUST FOR INFORMATION DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE ' RE. REACHING AREAS OF SECURITY CODE,.
WHICH ARE BEYOND THE JURISDICTION THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
>> > > YEAH, WELL SIMPLY A POINT–.
JUST TO FACTOR OUT WHAT I MEAN.YEAH, I PRESUME I WAS ASKING, I.
MEAN, WE'' VE ASKED FOR SURE. DENSITY AND AT SPECIFIC DENSITIES YOU GET CERTAIN EFFECTIVENESS AND ALSO.
IT FEELS LIKE WE'' RE REMOVING. THAT PERFORMANCE FOR AN AESTHETIC APPEARANCE. I'' M JUST TRYING TO COVER MY MIND.
AROUND THIS. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: FAIR.
ENOUGH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE.
CANDIDATE WHO HAS ALREADY? ALL RIGHT, AFTER THAT. ANYONE ELSE DESIRED TO TALK IN.
FAVOUR OF THIS PROPOSAL? ANYONE DREAM TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSAL? WE'' LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMPLETE THIS ONE? ALDERMAN DEMONG?
>> > > LIKE TO MOVE THE.
REFERRAL TO THE MANAGEMENT.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: AND.
THREE READINGS OF THE BYLAW. THANK YOU, DO I HAVE A SECONDER? THANKS, ALDERMAN LOWE. ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION ON THIS? ALL RIGHT AFTER THAT ON THE.
REFERRALS ARE WE IN FAVOUR? AGREED. THANKS, ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED. ON FIRST ANALYSIS OF THE LAW.
AGREED? 2ND READING OF THE LAW ARE.
AUTHORIZATION FOR THIRD ANALYSIS OF THE BYLAW ARE WE AGREED? ANY OPPOSED. CARRIED.THIRD READING OF THE
LAW ARE.
GIVEN AS A COMMUNICATION.
ACCESS MEASURE AND IS NOT INTENDED AS A VERBATIM.
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PROCESS. IF ERRORS OCCUR, IT MAY BE BECAUSE OF HUMAN BEING MISTAKE, TECHNICAL.
PROBLEMS, OR AN LACK OF ABILITY ON.
THE PART OF THE WRITER TO LISTEN TO OR UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING.
STATED. WHILE BEST SHOT ARE.
> > 8. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SO WE ARE NOW AT THING 8.4 IN YOUR.
PROGRAM. LAND USAGE REEXIT DESIGNATION IN.
THE NEIGHBOURHOOD OF MAHOGANY, Mr. COPE.
>> > > THAN THANKS, YOUR PRAISE. YOUR IMPACTED BY THE PROSED REDESIGNATION IS OUTON THE.
DISPLAY. UNIQUE PURPOSE URBAN NATURE AREA AND REDESIGNATE THE.
LAND TO SSPR FOR MUNICIPAL PARK.
AND SPECIAL FUNCTION REGIONAL FRAMEWORK DISTRICT TO.
SUIT A CHECKLIST STATION. THOSE LANDS WERE PREVIOUSLY DESIGNATE AS PART OF AN SUMMARY.
STRATEGY PROCESS. AT THAT TIME IT WASN'' T ACKNOWLEDGED AT THE MAIN PATH. SYSTEM WOULD GO THROUGH THE.
NATURAL AREA.THE S.U.N
AREA IS PLANNED.
FOR ECOLOGICAL BOOK KIND.
UTILIZES. THAT WILL CERTAINLY CORRECT THE CIRCUMSTANCE,.
ASSIGN TO LAND TO SSPR AND.
EVENTUALLY MR MUNICIPAL BOOK ALONG WITH THE PURPLE AREA BEING.
USED AS A LISTING TERMINAL. THIS WILL CERTAINLY SUIT THE DESCRIBED PLAN AND ALSO IT WAS.
SUPPORTED BY THE CALGARY.
PLANNING COMPENSATION. IN THAT REGARD THE CALGARY.
PLANNING PAYMENT IS.
SUGGESTING THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE PRODAYSED REDESIGNATION AND.
THAT WILL READINGS BE GIVEN TO.
THE BYLAW. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THERE, Mr. COPE. SEEING NONE, WE'' LL OPEN
THE.
ANY PERSON TO DREAM TO SPEAK IN. FAVOUR OF THIS PROPOSAL? ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN RESISTANCE TO THIS PROPOSAL? ANY IN OPPOSITION. EFFECTIVELY, THEN. ALDERMAN>> KEATING? > > SO STEP THE LAWS AND ALSO THE. 3 ANALYSES.> THANKS.
>> > > SUGGESTIONS. >> > >( FAINT)>.
> > BROUGHT. >> > >( FAINT ).
( AUDIO PROBLEMS). > > I WISH TO MOVE THAT WE.
WOULD REFER– OR THAT WE,. SORRY, TABLE THIS FOR TWO MONTHS, PLEASE.
THE FACTOR EXISTS ' S A CENTRE. STREET QUARTER COMPREHENSIVE RESEARCH STUDY THAT'' S GOING TO BE DOIN '.
THIS LOCATION AND I ' M NOT CLEAR ON. > > YES. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
( INAUDIBLE).
>> > > YES, I MAY THROUGH TO CHAIR THROUGH Mr. WATSON. SIMPLY WONDERING AS TO THE TIMING.
OF THIS CENTRE ROAD REVIEW THAT'' S UNDER MEANS. > >> ALDERMAN CHABOT, WE'' RE JUST. IT DEFINITELY WON'' T BE DONE BY
.
TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS OR.
WHAT DO YOU DESIRED TO DO WITH IT TODAY?
>> > > IN 2 MONTHS WILL WE BE.
FURTHER AHEAD IN THIS PROCESS? >> > >'WE ' LL KNOW A LITTLE BIT EVEN MORE BUT I.
CONTAINER'' T REPRESENT ALDERMAN. MacLEOD WHETHER SHE'' LL FEELING MORE COMFORTABLE CONTINUING ON.
THIS TWO MONTHS FROM NOW. WISH TO GIVE SOME INFORMATION AND SPEAK TO THE HIGHLAND PARK.
NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> > > THANKS FOR THAT.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THANKS, ALDERMAN CHABOT. AND EXPLANATION, TABLING THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US TO TABLE.
THIS TO MAY 9th COMBINED.
MEETING OF COUNCIL, NOT 19th. 9th. SO ON THAT TABLING ACTIVITY ARE WE.
AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? ALDERMAN CHABOT IS OPPOSED. LUGGED. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO THING 8.6 IN.
YOUR PROGRAM. CPC 2011-036, LAND USE.
REDESIGNATION IN THE MIDTOWN.
> > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THE LOCATION IMPACTED BY THE RECOMMENDED REDESIGNATION IS.
SITUATED ON 7th Method.
SOUTHWEST.THE LANDS AFFECTED ARE LAID OUT. IN RED AS WELL AS A PREVIOUS SECTION OF. THE EXISTING DIRECT CONTROL DISTRIBUTE CURRENTLY IN PLACE. IT WILL CERTAINLY TAKE THE LANDS FROM THE. STRAIGHT CONTROL DISTRICT WHICH IS TRIED TO INTENDS AND ALSO REDESIGNATE. THE LAND TO CM 2 DOWNTOWN.
ENTERPRISE ZONE.
THE REDESIGNATION WILL CERTAINLY ALLOW THE. SITE TO BE REDEVELOPED ON ITS. OWN IN A SIMILAR PATTERN REGARDING THE ADJACENT LANDS. IN THAT REGARD, IT IS. SUGGESTED THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE
SUGGESTED REDESIGNATION. THE LOCATION INFLUENCED ON THE. PICTURE SHOWN TO YOU RIGHT CURRENTLY, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT.
COUNCIL ADOPT A PROPOSED
. REDESIGNATION TO TAKE THE LANDS FROM DIRECT CONTROL TO CM 2 AS WELL AS.
THAT THREE READINGS BE GIVEN TO.
PROPOSED BYLAW 27D-2011. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
CONCERNS OR CLARIFICATION FOR.
MANAGEMENT, ALDERMAN CARRA? >> > > SIMPLY A CONCERN. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THAT'' S A. PRETTY DIMINISH LITTLE STRETCH OF THE CONVERSATION OF THE.
HERITAGE CHARACTER OF THE WEBSITE.
AND ALSO WHETHER THERE MUST BE ANY– OR DOES THAT NOT TAKE.
AREA?
>> > > THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE TOGETHER WITH ANY ADVANCEMENT.
ALLOW OF THE WEBSITE. I MUST NOTE THE EXISTING DC, A PORTION OF WHICH WILL REMAIN ON.
8th Opportunity, PART OF THAT.
CLASSIFICATION IS TO PROTECT THE HERITAGE PROBLEM OF THOSE.
SITES. ON 8th AVENUE, NOT THIS SPECIFIC SITE ON 7th.
>> > > SO IN REQUISITES OF PROTECTING, IS.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ON. > > YES, THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER. FORGIVE MY SIMPLE QUESTION, A FUNCTION OF PROCEDURE, I ' M MINDFUL.
DIFFICULT LOCATION WITH SOME VERY INNOVATIVE APPROACHES TO CAR PARK. APPLICATION AT THIS FACTOR IN THE.
PROCESS. ARE YOU ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT
OR. IS THAT A REASONABLE CONCERN TO YOU? > > I CAN ADDRESS IT BRIEFLY. I SUPPOSE. THE CLASSIFICATION ON THE SITE. TODAY IS DIRECT CONTROL WHICH IS TIED TO PLANS. THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY TO ACCOMPLISH. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE SITE. APART FROM THAT WAS ORIGINALLY. RECOMMENDED BACK IN 1983. WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT WHAT THE OBJECTIVE OF THE CANDIDATES HAVE. TO PERFORM WITH LAND NOW. SO SO AS TO GET THE WEBSITE RIGHT INTO A POSITION WHERE ONGOING. PLANNING CANISTER OCCUR, THEY REQUIRED TO. REDESIGNATION THE WEBSITE TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. > > I THINK THAT ' S MY INQUIRY. WHY DO WE HAVE TO REDESIGNATE TO ALLOW FUNDING TO CONTINUE? > > THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A. CONCERN TO PUT TO THE APPLICANT. >> > IS THERE ANY PERSON TO ADDRESS. THAT? MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE? > >
>> YEAH. > > OKAY, THANK YOU, Mr.COPE.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. Mr. COPE, I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE.
>> THERE ' S A NOTE IN
BELOW THAT STATES SOMETHING ABOUT THE DENSITY
. LEVELS PERMITTED UNDER THE. SUGGESTED CM 2 ARE LOWER THAN THE AUTHORIZED UNDER THE EXISTING
DC. CAN YOU TALK TO THAT FOR A. MINUTE. WHAT ' S THE DIFFERENCE? > > THE CENTIMETERS 2, THE STANDARD. AREA HAS A BASE DENSITY OF 7F. A.R.'BASED ON WHAT '
>> S CALLED.
THE “A” BENEFIT ARRANGEMENTS, “A”. GROUP STIPULATIONS.
TO CONSTRUCT UP YOUR DENSITIES ON THE SITE. IT HAVE BEFORE ME AT THIS TIME, THE EXISTING D.C. INCORPORATED. SPECIFIC SUGGESTED PLANS THAT WERE BEING GIVEN AS WELL AS SO THAT EXACT.
THICKNESS IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
TO THE WEBSITE UNLESS THEY DO SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THE GROUP.
A, B, AND ALSO C STIPULATIONS.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK YOU. THAT ' S EXTREMELY HANDY.
SEE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FURTHER QUESTIONS OR> INFORMATION, WE ' LL OPEN THE. PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR OF THIS APPLICATION? ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR? > > EXCELLENT AFTERNOON.MY NAME IS NEIL RICHARDSON,. PRESIDENT OF HERITAGE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. CORPORATION, WE ' RE THE APPLICANT IN THIS ISSUE.
I WEAR ' T REALLY INTEND TO MAKE A. DISCUSSION BUT I ' LL CERTAINLY RESPONSE ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY. HAVE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WONDERFUL. THANKS. ALDERMAN POOTMANS, DO YOU NEED. TO ASK YOUR INQUIRY CURRENTLY? > > YES
, GIVE THANKS TO>> YOU, AS WELL AS THANK. YOU Mr. RICHARDSON. I ' M FAMILIAR WITH YOUR TASKS AND THE NUMBER OF TERRIFIC ONES.
YOU ' VE CONTRIBUTED TO THE. THANK YOU.
THIS POINT, POSSIBLY IT ' S AN INDISCREET CONCERN SO IF YOU. WANT TO PREVENT IT, THAT ' S PENALTY. ARE YOUR INTENDS ADVANCED TO A PARTICULAR POINT WHERE THIS IS.
I ' M SIMPLY INTERESTED IN WHICH WE ' RE AT IN THIS PROCESS. > > WE ' VE BEEN FUNCTIONING WITH.
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER WE NEED TO APPLY FOR OUR OWN D.C. ZONING FOR THE SITE OR WHETHER. WE SHOULD DO WHAT WE ' RE DOING NOW WHICH IS TO PUT ON. ELIMINATING EXISTING D.C.AND.
PROCEED WITH THE GROWTH AUTHORIZATION. THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS THE.
WEBSITE IS CURRENTLY
ZONED WITH LAND THAT WE DON ' T OWN. IT INCLUDES COMPONENT OF THE LANEWAY. IT INCLUDES PART OF RESIDENCES THAT ARE OWNED ON 8th opportunity. AND ALSO THE ORIGINAL 1983 STRATEGY WAS. TO CONNECT THEM AS WELL AS DEVELOP THIS 52 FLOOR BUILDING ON OUR ITEM. OF THE LAND.
AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE MANAGEMENT, IT WAS.
WOULDN ' T BE TO APPLY FOR An ANOTHER PERSON D.C. ZONING BUT TO. AS WELL AS GO THROUGH A GROWTH PERMIT PROCEDURE.
THAT ' S WHAT WE ' RE PICKING TO. DO. > > MANY THANKS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. POSSIBLY'Mr.WATSON CONTAINER ADD A LITTLE LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION >> TO.
>> THIS QUESTION.
>
> THANK YOU. > > THANK YOU. ACTUALLY Mr. RICHARDSON HAS
.
>> ACTUALLY MADE IT QUITE CLEAR. I HAD SOMETHING TO PERFORM WITH THE. 26-Z-83 WHICH WAS A STUNNING. GROWTH– I ' LL
TELL COUNCIL BUT IT WILL CERTAINLY NEVER BE UNDERSTOOD. AND IT IS ONE OF THE OBSTACLES. WITH THE SEA– C WHICH GETS STEAL– STAGNANT
EVENTUALLY. IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO ACCOMPLISH. ANYTHING ON THAT SITE WITH THE ZONING EXCEPT TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING. ACCEPTED TWO DECADES BACK AS WELL AS PARTIALLY. IT WAS ALL ONE POSSESSION AT due to the fact that IT ' S A SPLIT OWNERSHIP CURRENTLY. THIS TIME AROUND– AT ONCE, THIS.
IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE METHOD TO OBTAIN US BACK TO A DEGREE PLAYING FIELD.
SO WE CAN BEGIN AGAIN AGAIN.
A HOUSE CLEANING ISSUE IN ORDER TO GET TO United States THE ZONING.
WE CONTAINER CONTINUE DISCUSSION. ON Mr. RICHARDSON ' S SUGGESTION OR ANY OTHERS FROM THE MIDTOWN. > > THANKS, Mr. WATSON.
> > THANK YOU, Mr. RICHARDSON. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
>> THANKS, ALDERMAN FARRELL EVEN MORE. Mr.RICHARDSON? > > THANK YOU >> FOR BEING BELOW.
TODAY, Mr. RICHARDSON.
ARE FOR THIS BLOCK SO I '
M WONDERING IF YOU TAKE A MINUTE
. TO JUST GO OVER SOME OF YOUR. > > I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A REALLY.
INTERESTING ASK USEFUL QUESTION AND ALSO I ' M INVITE Mr.RICHARDSON.
>> TO SOLUTION IT BRIEFLY BUT I WILL. REMIND YOU THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO SURPASS WHAT. WE ' RE BEING ASKED TO CHOOSE. TODAY.
WE ' RE NOT MAKING A CHOICE ON. WHAT Mr. RICHARDSON IS ABOUT
. TO DESCRIBE TO US.
WE'' RE SIMPLY MAKING A DECISION. > > YES, AS WELL AS I THINK THAT '
S AN.
IT ' S BEEN WENT OVER FOR SOME. 7th AVENUE. IT DOESN ' T INCLUDE LANDS TO.
THE EAST OR WEST OF SO IT IT ' S. SOMEWHAT LANDLOCKED.IT ' S ADDITIONALLY LOCATED ON 7t.
7th Method THAT ANYHOW LORRY. BECAUSE OF THE LRT PASSAGE, gain access to TO IT. THE HERITAGE STRUCTURES ARE.
PROBABLY VITAL INDEPENDENTLY BUT THEY ' RE REALLY MORE.
CRUCIAL– CRUCIAL AS A. COLLECTION.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK. > > I ' M ASSUMING THAT THE. > > IT COULD HAVE TAKEN.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: TERRIFIC.THE HERITAGE STRATEGY CALLS IT
STEVEN AVENUE'' S LITTLE SIBLING. IT ' S ONE OF THE NEW INTACT STREETSCAPES LEFT FROM THE EARLY
1900s UP TO ABOUT THE 1920s,
1930s. OUR IDEA FOR THE WEBSITE IS TO
RECOVER THE HERITAGE STRUCTURES
AND ALSO PUT ARTS AS WELL AS CULTURE SO IT'' S COMPATIBLE WITH THE OLYMPIC
PLAZA CULTURAL DISTRICT, ART
CENTRAL NEARBY, THE GRAND THEATRE A BLOCK OR SO
AWAY, THE EPISCORE CENTRE BUT
TO MAKE THE ECONOMICS OF THE GROWTH WORK WE INTEND
TO CONSTRUCT A ROBOT PARKADE
ACCESSED OFF THE BACK LANE.IT CANISTER BE
SMALL, NONOBTRUSIVE
THE HERITAGE BUILDINGS AND ALSO ALLOW
THE HERITAGE BUILDINGS TO BE PRESERVED WHILE STILL GIVING
WHAT WE HOPE IS AN AMENITY FOR
THE AREA. THAT BASICALLY IS THE
DEVELOPMENT.
>> > > THAT AIDS A LITTLE. THANK YOU.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS
QUITE, ALDERMAN FARRELL. ALDERMAN COLLEY-URQUHART FOR
Mr. RICHARDSON?
>> > > ALL.
> > THANK YOU. AND ALDERMAN MAR HAS SECONDED THAT MOTION. INQUIRIES FOR ADMINISTRATION?
RESERVE IN THE AREAS OF COUGAR RIDGE, Mr. COPE.
> > THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP. THE AREA IMPACTED– THE GET LIES IN COUGAR RIDGE. THE LOCATION OUTLINED IN RED. JUST SOUTH OF THE C.O.P. RESIDENTIAL GROWTH WHICH IS ONGOING. THE PROPOSAL WILL CERTAINLY TAKE THE EXISTING STRIP OF BOOK
LAND AND ALSO ELIMINATE THE M.R. CLASSIFICATION
ALLOWING FOR AN INCREASE IN SIZE OF THE SURROUNDING STORMWATER RETENTION POND.
WE HAVE AN AERIAL IMAGE SHOWING THE EXISTING POND AS WELL AS THE STRETCH OF GREENSPACE AS IT NOW
EXISTS AND THE ADDITIONAL PHOTO THAT WE HAVE REVEALING THE LAND FROM 85th STREET, THE PRESENT CONDITION OF THE FISH POND AND ALSO THE LAND TO WHICH THE FISH POND IS GOING TO BE EXTENDED INTO.IN THAT REGARD JUCC HAS SUSTAINED THE REMOVAL OF THE GET CLASSIFICATION WITH THE PLEDGE THAT AN EQUIVALENT AMOUNT OF LAND WILL CERTAINLY BE DEDICATED IN THE C.O.P. GROWTH WHICH YOU TIN SIMPLY SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THAT IMAGE. WE ' LL PROVIDE SOME
ADDITIONAL LAND FOR BOOK AS PART OF'THEIR GROWTH LOCATION. UNTIL THAT DOES OCCUR, A DEFERRED GET CAVEAT IN THE AMOUNT OWING WILL BE REGISTERED ON THE IDEAL TITLE. BECAUSE
REGARD, CALGARY PREPARING PAYMENT IS ADVISING THAT COUNCIL ADOPT BY RESOLUTION THE PERSONALITY OF 0.421 HECTARES OF GET LAND AND THAT COUNCIL DIRECT An ASSIGNED POLICEMAN TO INFORM REGISTRAR SOUTHERN ALBERTA LAND TITLES WORKPLACE THAT THE DEMANDS OF THE NG.A.
LAND
FOR RESERVEGET BOOK LAND IN COMPENSATION FOR THIS A.M.R.
LAND. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THAT ' S.
> > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER. I ' VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION, OTHERS IN. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WE.
HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. > > WE ' RE HAVING A FULL PUBLIC–. >
>> > GOOD MID-DAY, YOUR PRAYER.
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.> RICHARD PRIEST. CHIEF OPERATING POLICEMAN WITH. APEX. NOT REALLY GOING TO MAKE A DISCUSSION. I ASSUME IT WAS WELL DISCOVERED. CAN, THANKS QUITE. JUST WISHED TO SAY THANK YOU.
EXTREMELY MUCH TO ADMINISTRATION FOR. THE VERY PROMPT PROCESS THAT
THEY UNDERTOOK FOR United States TO.
AUTHORIZATION STAGE AS WELL AS GET United States TO THE POINT WHERE WE ' RE AT NOW AND I. WOULD BE HAPPY TO RESPONSE ANY
. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU, Mr. CLERGYMAN AND ALSO MR. WATSON HIGHLIGHTED FOR ME. THAT YOU WERE THANKING US FOR. THE EXPEDITIOUS PROCESS WHICH WE DON ' T ALWAYS LISTEN TO AT THESE.
PUBLIC HEARINGS.
> > CONSIDERING Mr. CLERGYMAN YOU MADE THE TRIP DOWN I WOULD SIMPLY. > > THE BUILDING OF THE FISH POND. > > ALREADY COMPLETED.
> > I ' M GLAD I ASKED THE>. CONCERN. > > ALL THE PIPELINES ARE IN.
>> THE LINER REMAINS IN AND ALSO EVERYTHING. >> AS WELL AS ACTUALLY PHASE 1 IS BUILT.
WHAT YOU CAN SEE UP THERE, R1,. R1, R1N, THAT ' S ALL BUILT. SO WE ' RE JUST WAITING FOR CONDITIONS TO PUT THE SIDEWALK. DOWN AND ALSO THE LANDSCAPING AROUND. THE FISH POND.
> > THANKS >> QUITE.
>> > > AND AFTER THAT THE NEXT TIP IS.
BURYINBURYINBURYING THAT 138KV-. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. CLERGYMAN? THANK YOU QUITE BEING RIGHT HERE.
TODAY, SIR. >> > > THANK YOU
>>. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ANYBODY
. ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOUR OF THIS APPLICATION? ANY INDIVIDUAL WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
AGAINST THIS APPLICATION? ANYONE IN RESISTANCE. EXTREMELY WELL, THEN, ALDERMAN.
POOTMANS.
>> > > SO RELOCATED. I RELOCATE THAT WE WAGED THIS.
RECOMMENDATION. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS.
AS WELL AS ALDERMAN CHABOT IS SECOND. THERE'' S NO BYLAW.
>> > > NO BYLAW, O.K.. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SO ANY. DISCUSSION ON THIS, FOLKS? ALL RIGHT, AFTER THAT. ON THE REFERRALS ARE WE.
ALDERMAN HODGES IS OPPOSED. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES United States TO THE END OF OUR.
PUBLIC HEARING. WE'' LL PLAY SOME MUSICAL CHAIRS.
RIGHT HERE AND ALSO RELOCATE TO THE REGULAR.
SECTION OF OUR CONFERENCE. FOR THE RATE OF INTERESTS OF THE MEMBERS.
OF THE GALLERY, THE REMAINDER OF THE.
PUBLIC HEARING IS– THE REMAINDER OF OUR COUNCIL CONFERENCE IS CERTAINLY.
OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS YOU'' RE. WELCOME TO STAY BUT THERE WILL NOT BE AN OPPORTUNITY.
FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO MAKE.
SUBMISSIONS.THE ITEMS IN THE REST OF THIS.
HAVE LARGELY– THOSE THAT.
REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE AEADY HAD THAT OCCUR AT THE.
COMMITTEE DEGREE. ALL. THAT TAKES United States TO 10.1.1 IN.
WHICH IS CHANGE TO COUNCIL'' S CIVIC CENSUS PLAN. MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN LOWE. WE ' LL LET EVERYONE ELSE FLIP TO.
> > YES. THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. YEP IT IS EXCEPT FOR ONE SMALL.
THING. WHAT'' S THE CONCERN THAT TRANSPORT DIVISION DESIRES.
CENSUS.WHAT ARE WE QUIZZING THE PUBLIC. CANISTER I DEFER THAT INQUIRY. WE ' LL OBTAIN TO ANOTHER PERSON PAIR INDIVIDUALS ON THE LISTING AND ALSO WE ' LL.
I WEAR'' T SEE HIM UPCOMING. >> > > THAT ' S THE ONLY INQUIRY. > > YOUR PRAYER, Ms. SEEDER IS.
BELOW. >> > > YOUR PRAYER, THE INQUIRY.
THAT WE'' RE GOING TO BE ASKING.
THE RESIDENTS IS THE TRIANNUAL QUESTION. IT WILL CERTAINLY BE STARTING THIS YEAR. AS WELL AS OUR CONCERN ACTUALLY IS WHAT SETTING OF TRANSPORT DID.
YOU REQUIRE TO THE LAST DAY YOU.
WORKED.AND THE OPTION IS BASICALLY. BY BICYCLE, BY STROLLING, BY.
DIFFERENT SETTINGS IN OUR TALE. >> > > AND IF THE PRIVATE IS NOT.
WORKING, EITHER AS A VOLUNTEER.
> > THANK YOU. > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER. > > IT ' S JUST A RANDOM STUDY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST.
ADDRESSED BY SOMEONE FROM. >> TRANSPORT AS WELL AS PLANNING.
> > SIMPLY STRUCK ME AS ODD TO–.
INDIVIDUALS– > >. IT ' S A RANDOM ACTION THAT THEY.
SOMEBODY FROM TRANSPORT AND ALSO.
PREPARING TO RESPONSE TO THAT.
>> > > OK. MY SECOND INQUIRY HAD TO PERFORM.
WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD INFORMATION AND, YOU RECOGNIZE, I.
UNDERSTAND THERE'' S A COST. SHARING PLAN IN BETWEEN CBE AS WELL AS THE CATHOLIC BOARD BUT DO WE.
HAVE OTHER BOARDS IN THE CITY OR.
OPERATING IN THE CITY NOW, DO WE PROVIDE INFORMATION FOR THEM AND ALSO.
EXISTS ANY MODIFICATION IN.
RESOURCES? >> > > YOUR PRAYER, NO. THE CONTRACT IS SIMPLY WITH THE.
2 BOARDS THAT YOU HAVE POINTED OUT.
>> > > WHAT ABOUT THE FRENCH BOARD,.
WHAT ABOUT THE CHARTER SCHOOLS AS WELL AS SO ON?
>> > > I DO NOT THINK THAT THEY. HAVE BEEN TOUCHING BARB CLIFFORD, WHO I COULD TAKE THIS.
INQUIRY BACK TO. > > YEAH, I WOULD BE CURIOUS.
INCREASING POPULATION PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE CITY. WHICH–.
>> > > THE CONCERN ON THE CENSUS IS BASICALLY GIVE– THE QUESTION.
WE ASK IS UNRELATED TO TAX OBLIGATION.
DOLLARS.IT ' S SIMPLY AN VIEWPOINT TO SEE. WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE. THERE ARE OPTIONS OF OTHER. VARIOUS OTHER BEING HOME-SCHOOLING OR.
WITH VARIOUS OTHER MEANS. >> > > OKAY. YEP, I WOULD THINK THAT IT.
WOULD BE THE VARIOUS OTHER THAT I WOULD WANT, WHAT PERCENT.
OF OUR POPULATION IS NOT UTILIZING.
THE CATHOLIC BOARD OR THE GENERAL PUBLIC BOARD AND, YOU RECOGNIZE, WHERE ELSE.
ARE THEY GOING BELOW AND WHAT'' S. YOUR PRAISE.
THANK YOU. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN LOWE.
DID YOU WISHED TO ASK YOUR INQUIRY ONCE MORE NOW THAT. MR. LOGAN IS RIGHT HERE
? > > I WILL.
Mr. LOGAN, IN THE. TRANSPORTATION QUESTIONS BEING.
ASKED, OF ONE INDIVIDUAL IN YOUR HOME, WHAT WAS YOUR LAST MODE. OF– WHEN YOU MOSTED LIKELY TO FUNCTION, MY. INQUIRY IS BY ONLY ONE PERSON IN THE HOUSE. GIVEN THAT LOTS OF, LOTS OF HOUSEHOLDS. HAVE EVEN MORE THAN SOMEONE UTILIZED OR DOING VOLUNTEER. WORK. > > YOUR WORSHIP, TO BE HONEST BUT, I'' M NOT PRECISELY CERTAIN BUT. YOU ARE CORRECT, IT IS SPECIFIC.
TO WHOMEVER THE INDIVIDUAL IS THAT HAS THE FOLLOWING BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION IS WHAT.
IF THERE'' S MORE THAN ONE PERSON IN THE HOUSEHOLD THAT ' S WORKING. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THIAZOL DOES MAKE SENSE.
PEOPLE A WHOLE LOT ON STATISTICS TODAYS.
>> > > DO NOT HESITATE, YOUR WORSHIP,.
DUE TO THE FACT THAT THAT WAS ONE TOPIC I.
NEVER DID WELL IN. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WHAT.
Mr. LOGAN IS SAYING IS IT'' S A. PURELY RANDOM EXAMPLE SO THEY ONLY WANT A RANDOM PERSON. THEY DON'' T WANT TO KNOW THE. ENTIRE FAMILY MEMBERS SINCE THAT WOULD SKEW THE EXAMPLE IF THEY ALL YOU.
WOULD CARPOOL SO THEY'' RE PICKING.
A RANDOM PERSON IN THE HOUSE BY THE BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION SO WE OBTAIN A TOTALLY.
RANDOMIZED SAMPLE IN THE CITY.
>> > > I TIN UNDERSTAND THAT PART.I WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN MORE.
THINKING ABOUT THE QUANTUMS.
BECAUSE THAT'' S GOING TO FIND BACK AS WELL AS WHACK United States IN THE HEAD. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ALDERMAN CHABOT.
>> > > MANY THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP. LOWE AND CHABOT, IT ' S A COMMON MOTIF. THANK YOU. I HAD THE SAME CONCERN FOR Mr. LOGAN AS WELL AS THANKS FOR
. THAT'REACTION. DIDN ' T NECESSARILY LIKE IT BUT … Ms. CEDAR, THROUGH THIS LAST.
POLITICAL ELECTION ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE GOT OR THE VOTERS DETAIL THAT WE.
GOT, I DISCOVER THAT THERE WAS A.
VARIETY OF INDIVIDUALS AND ALSO THAN RESIDING IN THE RESIDENCE FOR A.
VARIETY OF YEARS. THAT WEREN'' T ON THIS YEAR ' S CENSUS.
AND I ' M JUST WONDERING, DO WE. EVER
>> CONTINUE THE INFO? > > THE CENSUS AND THE VOTERS. CHECKLIST, YOUR PRAISE, ARE TWO VARIOUS PROCEDURES. I CAN SPEAK TO THE CENSUS. I WOULD PREFER TO LEAVE THE POLITICAL ELECTION TO BARBARA CLIFFORD. DEMOGRAPHICS WE DON'' T COLLECT ANY.
INDIVIDUAL DATA.THERE ARE NO
NAMES ASSOCIATED. THERE ARE UNDOUBTEDLY ADDRESSES AS WELL AS.
ADDRESSES HAVE A PROPENSITY TO ADJUSTMENT. CONSEQUENTLY DWELLINGS BEING ELIMINATED.
AND ALSO ANOTHER PERSON DWELLING GOING IN ITS LOCATION. I AM UNSURE AS TO YOUR.
CONCERN AS TO THE GROWTH PATTERN.
>> > > NO,'I ' M SIMPLY WONDERING WHY. SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD RESIDED IN THE HOUSE FOR MANY YEARS
. WEREN ' T ON THE–.
>> > > THE ENUMERATION. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DIRECTED.
TO BARBARA CLIFFORD AND I COULD.
PASS THAT QUESTION ALONG TO YOU. > > SPECIFIC TO THE THE CENSUS, O. NAMES. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
SUITES, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH.
MAKING THAT RESOLUTION? >> > > WE DON ' T, YOUR PRAYER. WE SIMPLY ASK THE CONCERN OF.
HOME UNITS, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE LIVE AT THIS HOME.
>> > > YEAH. SIMPLY WONDERING HOW WE CAN ASSIST IN GETTING A BETTER,.
MORE CLONS CLEAR ACTION OUT OF.
THAT.IF THERE
' S LIKE TWO MAILBOXES.
THAT'' S NORMALLY QUITE A MEASURE.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: IT'' S. I'' M NOT GOING TO PUT Ms. SLOAN. ON THE AREA RIGHT AT THE MINUTE BUT IT ' S A LITTLE BIT STRANGE TO ASK.
SOMEONE TO DESCRIBE WHETHER. THEY ' RE IN ENGAGING IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AS COMPONENT OF A CENSUS.
MR. LEAGUEN? Mr. LOGAN. > > YOUR WORSHIP, WE CAN ASK ALL. KINDS OF MATTERS THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE >>. OPTIONAL TO RESPONSE. > >'HMM. INTERESTING. SO WE CAN ' T RANDOMLY MAKE AN ACCESSIBILITY ON OUR OWN IS WHAT YOU ' RE.
>> CLAIMING. > > NO, THE CENSUS IS'NOT MANDATORY, EXACTLY.
> > MY POINT, YOUR PRAYER, IS. THAT I THINK THERE ARE MORE SECONDARY SUITES THAN WE ' VE. AND I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE PROBABLY WISE TO KNOW ROUGHLY HOW MANY.
THERE ARE. WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE SELECT TO ADMIT THERE'' S A SECOND SUITE. THERE ' S CERTAINLY A NUMBER OF. DIFFERENT MEANS WE CONTAINER ACCESS WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE.
>> ADDITIONAL COLLECTIONS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: YOU UNDERSTAND I PUT ON ' T DISAGREE BUT AS WELL AS I. THINK THAT MAYBE YOU CAN RESPONSE. THAT INQUIRY WHICH IS, IF ALDERMAN CHABOT WERE TO MAKE A. MOVEMENT TODAY MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IN. THIS PROGRAM TO ADD A QUESTION ON SECONDARY SUITES TO THE CIVIC.
CENSUS, WHAT'' S THE TIMING ON.
THAT? WOULD WE ACTUALLY DO THAT FOR.
WE ARE CURRENTLY TRAINING AS WE SPEAK. WE ' RE GOING OUT APRIL 1st. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WE.
COULD PERHAPS CONSIDER THIS FOR A FUTURE DEMOGRAPHICS IF WE WANTED TO.
>> > > THAT COULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN A.
FUTURE DEMOGRAPHICS, YOUR WORSHIP. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU.
>> > > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I VALUE THAT GUIDANCE AND ALSO.
IT'' S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT.
WE'' LL TAKE UNDER ADVISEMENT. Ms. CEDAR, IF I MAY ASK AS.
WELL, IN REGARDS TO THE.
PORTION OF ACTIONS, I RECOGNIZE MY SPOUSE HAS DONE THINGS BEFORE.
I BELIEVE IT'' S MORE EVEN MORE
THE. EHUMAN RATIONS FACET WHERE THERE WAS An EXTREMELY SMALL RESISTANCE.
IN REGARDS TO THE NUMBER OF.
HOMES THAT YOU COULD NOT TAPE-RECORDED INFORMATION ON. WHAT'' S YOUR COMMON ACTION.
REQUIREMENT FROM YOUR– >> > > YOUR PRAYER, WE ASKED THAT.
1% OF THE ASSIGNED AREA BE.
UNABLE TO CONTACT. THAT'' S An OBJECTIVE WE STRIVE FOR. WHETHER OR NOT WE CONTAINER ACHIEVE.
THAT, IT DEPENDS ON INVOLVEMENT. THAT IS GENERALLY WHAT WE HOPE.
TO ACHIEVE. >> > > YOUR WORSHIP, AND ALSO THE FACTOR.
I ASKED THE PREVIOUS INQUIRY TO.
SINCE I BELIEVE THE TWO ARE KIND OF INEXTREKICALLY, THIS ONE IS.
LINKED. I I.E., EXISTS A SECONDARY SUITE AND ALSO EXISTS SOMEBODY.
RESPONDING AT THAT SECONDARY.
SUITE.1% IS BASED ON REGISTERED.
ADDRESSES, RIGHT?
>> > > YOUR PRAISE, MAY I ADD TO THAT. INCAPABLE TO CALL INDICATES EXACTLY.
THAT, THAT THE PERSON WASN'' T THERE AT NUMEROUS ATTEMPTS. THERE'' S NO CHANCE WE COULD GET THE.
INFO. IF THE PERSON ISN'' T THERE AT. A SPECIFIC POINT, WE WILL CERTAINLY MOST LIKELY TO
A. NEIGHBOUR AND ASK. THAT NEIGHBOR WON'' T KNOW. WHETHER OR NOT
— WHETHER THEY. PICK TO SOLUTION CORRECTLY, RIGHT. UNABLE TO CALL SUGGESTS THAT.
THERE IS NO DETAILS. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER CODINGS SUCH.
AS NO, THEY DON'' T WANT TO. PARTICIPATE. NO INFORMATION.
BUT THAT ' S> NOT AN INCAPABLE> TO. CALL.
> > RIGHT. > > WELL, THE ADDITIONAL SUITE. MAY BE AN UNABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH IF WE COULD IDENTIFY THAT IT WAS A. SECONDARY COLLECTION IS MY POINT. ANYWAYS, I GUESS THAT'' S ALL I NEED TO KNOW FOR NOW.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
FASCINATING NIGHT– PREDICAMENT OF FANCY FOR OUR CONVERSATION TODAY.
BUT IT'' S AN ESSENTIAL ONE.
>> > > THE REALITY THAT IS INQUIRY EXISTS IS AT LEAST A REALLY LEGITIMATE.
TEAMMATE MAKE THOSE ASSESSMENTS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS, ALDERMAN CHABOT. ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION ON THIS.
PRODUCT? ALDERMAN LOWE, DID YOU INTENDED TO.
ALL RIGHT, THEN.ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO EMBRACE. THE CHANGED CIVIC DEMOGRAPHICS PLAN. THANK YOU.
RECORD ON THE CITY OF CALGARY'' S. INTERACTION FUNCTION. A TIP THAT THROUGHOUT OUR.
SPENDING PLAN DELIBERATIONS WE ASKED.
FOR THIS REPORT. AS WELL AS RIGHT HERE IT IS. SO I'' LL TAKE A MOVEMENT TO OBTAIN.
THIS ONE ON THE TABLE. MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN LOWE. DO I HAVE A SECONDNER THANKS.
ALDERMAN PINCOTT. Mr. STEVENS, DID YOU WISHED TO.
SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS RECORD? QUESTIONS TO MANAGEMENT OR DISCUSSION?
>> > > I HAVE SOME
>>. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: Mr. STEVENS.
>> > > WELL, WE HAVE SEEN A FAIR BIT.
OF DEVELOPMENT IN THIS DIVISION AND ALSO IF I'' M READING IT APPROPRIATELY, IF
. WE EXCLUDE 311 IN STRAIGHT-UP.
COMMUNICATIONS WE'' VE HAD FOR MANY YEARS, OH, IF I'' M ANALYSIS.
THIS PROPERLY, 34 TEAM.
TRANSFERRED IN FROM OTHER PLACES CONSIDERING THAT THE YEAR 2000 AND ALSO 31 NEW.
TEAM. COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE TO THOSE 31 NEW PERSONNEL AND ALSO THE KIND.
OF DUTIES THAT THEY.
ARE DOING THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS THE INSTANCE BEFORE WE.
STARTED THIS DIVISION IN THE.
> > YES, THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. THAT STAFF WOULD BE INVOLVED IN OFFERING SERVICES FROM THE.
CENTRAL FEATURE TO THE SERVICE.
DEVICES. THEY WOULD ALSO BE PROVIDED A.
SERVICE IN THE WHAT I WOULD.
REFER TO AS THE IMAGINATIVE SERVICES WORK WHERE WE.
SUPPLY THE PRINT, MULTIMEDIA.
MANUFACTURING, SOME OF THE GRAPHIC DESIGN. THE CREATING AS WELL AS EDITING AND ENHANCING, A FEW OF.
THAT ESPECIALLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MULTIMEDIA PLATFORM,.
THAT'' S IN WHICH A GREAT DEAL OF THE.
RESOURCES HAVE GONE.
>> > > Mr. STEVENS, WHILE YOU'' RE.
UP, THERE HAS BEEN SOME. DISCUSSION AROUND THE CORPORATION OF THE PLACEMENT OF.
THIS KIND OF AS SERVICE UNIT FOR. THE REST OF THE CORPORATION.
AND ALSO THE REALITY THAT THAT WOULD.
SUGGEST THE COMMUNICATIONS. DECISIONS ARE RATHER DECENTRALIZED THAT THEY'' RE MADE.
THROUGHOUT THE CORPORATION THAT THIS.
DEVICE DOESN'' T REALLY HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE OVERALL.
MESSAGE. WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT'' S A FAIR DECLARATION AND WE'' VE BEEN.
CONSIDERING HOW TO HANDLE.
THAT? >> > > I WOULD SAY THAT'IS A. STRUGGLE.
THAT ' S A FAIR COMMENT.THE CONTROL OF THE MESSAGE.
IS A TOUGH POINT WHEN YOU'' VE. GOT NEARLY 30 ORGANIZATIONS AND A PAIR HUNDRED LINES OF SOLUTION. I WON'' T DISPUTE THAT. SO WE DO HAVE SOME BUSINESS OVERSIGHT THAT WE PROVIDE ON.
PARTICULAR THINGS, BRANDING, INTERNET,.
A FEW OF OUR EXTERNAL PRESENCE BUT WITH REGARD TO MESSAGING.
AROUND SPECIFIC JOBS AS WELL AS.
BUSINESSES, THAT IS NOT CONTROLLED CENTRALLY.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU. I MAY HAVE A PAIR MORE AND.
I'' LL BOOK THE RIGHT TO ASK.
MORE BUT I SEE SOME LIGHTS GET ON SO ALDERMAN CHABOT?
>> > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. AND ALSO I'' M UNCERTAIN WHO TO ASK THIS INQUIRY TO. I CONSIDER 2010 PERMANENT.
COMMUNICATIONS PAID BY DIVISION. AS AGAINST 2010 PERMANENT.
COMMUNICATION FTEs PAID BY CSC AND ALSO I'' M SIMPLY WONDERING, IS THIS.
LIKE THE TOTAL OUT OF EACH OF.
THE VARIOUS ORGANIZATION SYSTEMS? >> > > YES, IT IS.
>> > > NOW, WE'' RE TALKING ABOUT.
PERSONNEL DEVOTED TO THE ADVANCEMENT OF COMMUNICATIONS. DOES THAT INCLUDE CAPITAL.
COMPONENTS TO THAT? >> > > YES>>. > > REALLY?
>> >
> YES.YOU WILL CERTAINLY FIND IN SOME OF THEM.
THAT THEY ARE MONEYED OUT OF.
RESOURCES. THEY ARE– INVOLVE JOB IN
. AREAS THAT ARE MONEYED OUT.
OF FUNDING FOR A SHORT DURATION OF TIME. THEY ARE CONSISTED OF. THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE BASED AS WELL AS THEY ARE MONEYED OUT OF.
OPERATING. I TIN REFER TO MY DEPARTMENT. , if YOU LOOK IN BUSINESS.
.
SERVICES THERE ARE SOME PRIMARILY IN OUR SERVICE UNITS.
THAT ARE BASICALLY RESOURCES.
DRIVEN.THEY ARE MONEYED OUT OF FUNDING. PARTICULAR REFERENCE, YOUR. PRAISE, ACCESSORY 5, PAGE 1 YOU TIN SEE BUSINESS SERVICES.
WHERE YOU HAVE CONSIDERABLE.
QUANTITIES OF RESOURCES IN BUSINESS QUALITIES AS WELL AS BUILDINGS AS WELL AS.
I.T., FOR INSTANCE, A FEW OF THAT.
IS REALLY DETAILS PROJECT WORK WHERE COMMUNICATIONS ARE.
REQUIRED, FOR INSTANCE, OUT OF.
VACATING A BUILDING.
> > THAT AIDS A LITTLE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SO ANY. INDIVIDUALS– > >. > > THE QUESTION ON THE CENSUS IS BASICALLY GIVE– THE QUESTION.
> > YOUR WORSHIP, WE CONTAINER ASK ALL.YOU WILL INTEND TO DO A FULL
INTERACTION PLAN TO PERSONNEL
ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE, THE ACTIVITY, THEY WOULD BE
MONEYED OUT OF CAPITAL.
>> >
> OKAY.NOT GOING TO TEASE YOU,
PARTICULARLY UTILITIES AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENT. > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER. DO THAT AND ALSO THEY TAKE THE
TECHNOLOGICAL MATERIAL, THE VITAL PROBLEMS THAT WE ' RE TRYING TO REPRESENT AND AFTERWARDS THEY TRANSFORM IT INTO LANGUAGE THAT ' S EVEN MORE EASY TO USE IF YOU LIKE FOR THE BROADER COMMUNITY. REALLY CRITICAL. > > MAYBE I DIDN ' T
WORD MY INQUIRY APPROPRIATELY. >> THESE 12FTEs'ARE EMBEDDED WITHIN THE DIVISION? > > NO. THEY ' LL BE OUT AT THE WATER CENTRE>, THEY'' LL BE OUT AT WASTE AS WELL AS RECYCLING. THEY ' RE PONDING TO
PROBLEMS MANAGEMENT, THEY ' RE RESPONDING TO THE MESSAGING AROUND IF THERE ' S SEVERE
PROBLEMS WITH WARE MAINE BREAKS,
THEY ' RE ACQUIRING OUT ALL THE TYPE OF DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONAL MESSAGING AND ALSO IN REGARDS TO Mr. STEVENS '.
OF MESSAGING AND ALSO THE BUSINESS MESSAGING, THERE ' S SOME. COMPANY AND SO–.
> > THAT ' S WHY YOU>> ARE THOSE INTERIOR INDIVIDUALS SPECIFICALLY. DEDICATED TO THE INTERACTION. STRATEGY.SO MY QUESTION THEN IS, IS THIS.
THE PRICES FOR COMMUNICATIONS WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT? > > YES.
THIS IS THE PEOPLE, THE FTEs THAT WE HAVE THAT WE NEED TO DO. COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AS WELL AS CREATIVE SERVICES AND THOSE. KINDS OF PEOPLE.
AS WELL AS THE COST OF THAT WORK APPEARS IN OTHER PLACES IN THE REPORT. > > Mr.STEVENS IS TELLING ME.
>> ADD-ON 6. I ASSUME THAT EACH OF THESE. ADD-ONS HAS A DIFFERENT.
I THINK ADD-ON 5 IS. HIGHLIGHT WHERE THE VARIOUS DIVISIONS HAVE RESOURCES.
THEY DEMAND IN ORDER TO DO THEIR SERVICE. THAT IS PAID FOR BY THE. COMPANY.
SIMPLY THE OPERATIONAL PART.
>> > > YEAH, WELL, I ' M UNCERTAIN IF. I ' M GETTING ACROSS RIGHT HERE AS TO WHAT'I ' M TRYING TO ACCESS. APPEARED LIKE I'' M NOT BUT I ' M. TRYING TO FIND OUT, YOUR PRAYER, RESPECTFULLY, WHAT OUR.
THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME EXPENSES THAT AREN ' T SHOWED IN THESE. NUMBERS FROM MY VIEWPOINT AND ALSO. COLLABORATING THE CITY ' S MESSAGING BUT I IN SOME WAY OBTAIN THE.
REALLY FEELING THAT THERE ' S SOME. ADDED EXPENSES WITHIN PERSON SERVICE UNITS THAT. ARE DEDICATED TOWARDS.
COMMUNICATIONCOMMUNICATIONS THAT ALWAYS FLESHED OUT IN THIS.
RECORD.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: Mr Mr. CHABOT.
>> > > YOUR PRAYER, THE DETAILS.
IS PRESENTED IN 2 VARIOUS ITEMS AMONG WHICH IS AN FTE.
COUNT WHICH IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST.
HELPFUL WAYS TO SEE THE GROWTH OF THE FTEs ON THE.
CIRCULATION OVER A DURATION OF.
TIME.ON ACCESSORY 6 IS A LISTING OF. EXPENDITURES ON COMMUNICATIONS. BY DIVISION BY SYSTEM AS WELL AS YOU THE QUANTITY IS.
$ 12 MILLION. THAT'' S ASIDE FROM SALARIES AND INCOMES OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE.
DEVOTED TO THAT FULL-TIME.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SO THIS IS CREATIVE FUNCTION,.
MARKETING GETS, THAT KIND OF.
THING. >> > > YES>>. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THAT ' S. VERY HELPFUL. DOES THAT AID, ALDERMAN CHABOT?
>> > > A LITTLE. SO YOU'' RE EXPRESSION THAT 12.6 IS IN ENHANCEMENT TO THE VARIOUS OTHER OVERALL THAT.
> > WHAT ' S THE COMPLETE PRICE FOR. > > I HAVE THE NUMBER BELOW. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: WHILE.
YOU'' RE LOOKING FOR THAT, I TIN SUGGEST THAT … I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST … IF I'' M ANALYSIS PROPERLY, AFTER THAT WE HAVE 84.6 FTEs IN, 65 IN.
COMMUNICATIONS, ANOTHER PERSON.
57-FTEs EMBEDDED IN DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO WE SPEND.
$ 12 MILLION A YEAR ON CREATIVE.
SERVICES.
>> > > An OVERALL OF 149.6 FTEs I.
GATHER.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THAT INCLUDES 311 PLUS ANOTHER 57 IN.
DEPARTMENTS.
>> > > AT VARYING FEES. > >> Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THEY'' RE NOT JUST THE SAME AS WELL AS–. >'> WHICH ' S WHAT I ' M TRYING TO FIND OUT, YOUR PRAISE IS WHAT.
>> IS THE TOTAL. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: DO WE HAVE THAT NUMBER IN RIGHT HERE. INCLUDING BENEFITS as well as earnings,
. Mr. CHABOT? > >> THIS REPORT DOES NOT CONTAIN. IT TRIES TO PROGRAM COUNCIL TWO.
POINTS, THE GROWTH OF FTEs OVER TIME AND ALSO WHAT'' S APPROPRIATE IS. JUST HOW MUCH ARE WE COSTS ON.
COMMUNICATING. > > YES AND ALSO DON ' T OBTAIN ME MISDOING.
THERE ' S A LOTS OF DETAILS. RIGHT HERE THAT INFORMS ME ABOUT HOW. MUCH WE ' VE IMPROVED PERFORMANCE WITHIN THIS DIVISION AND ALSO I. HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT SAID. I ' M SIMPLY LOOKING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TOTAL COSTS FOR THE.
AGREED. THANK YOU. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I CONCUR WITH YOU, ALD CHABOT, THAT.
INCREDIBLY USEFUL NUMBER HERE AND WE OUGHT NOT TO NEED TO GO.
FISHING FOR IT. I DO HAVE ANOTHER PERSON AREA FOR YOU TO APPEARANCE, THOUGH, ON PAGE 12 OF.
14 YOU WILL CERTAINLY SEE THE BUDGET PLANS OF.
THAT DEPARTMENT, Mr.STEVENS MAYBE YOU CONTAINER TALK TO THIS, THE. BUDGET FOR THAT DIVISION IS. 515.50– 15.506 MILLION.
CURRENTLY, Mr. STEVENS, I'' M ASSUMING.
THAT THAT NUMBER INCLUDES THE.
WAGES AND BENEFITS WITHIN THE DIVISION. PERHAPS NOT THE FULL 12 MILLION.
IN CREATIVE BECAUSE THAT GETS CREDITED THE DEPARTMENTS.
>> > > YOUR PRAISE, WE ' RE NARROWING.
IT DOWN. I TIN GET THAT NUMBER. WE DON'' T REQUIRED TO SEARCH FOR IT.
BUT YOU'' RE RIGHT, WHAT THE OUTSTANDING NUMBER AND ALSO YOU'' VE. CHARACTERIZED IT EXACTLY.
CORRECT, YOUR WORSHIP. THERE ARE 149.6 FTEs WITHIN.
COMMUNICATIONS AS WELL AS THE EXPENSES OF.
THAT IS COLLECTION OUT ON ADD-ON 4, THE WEB PAGE 3 OF 3.
AND ALSO THE PRICE THAT'' S IN ACCESSORY 6, THE EXPENSE THAT I.
DON'' T HAVE FOR YOU IS THE COSTEXPENSE > > Mayor Naheed'Nenshi: I THINK FROM ALDERMAN CHABOT ' S. LINE OF QUESTIONING WHICH I ECHO. ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES IN RIGHT HERE IN ONE OF THE FACTORS– WELL, I. WAS GOING TO SAY I REQUESTED,.
UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT. BIG NUMBER OVER TIME BECAUSE IT IS CHALLENGING WHEN WE ' RE
. CONSIDERING BUDGET PLAN TO BE ABLE TO.
REALLY FOLLOW UP PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT. IT'' S AMONG THE HARDER.
ONES, THIS ONE IN I.T.SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO BE.
ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> > > YOUR PRAYER, I RECOGNIZE ALDERMAN CHABOT'' S INQUIRY TO BE. ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS. OBVIOUSLY THAT INCLUDES THE 311 NUMBER. DO YOU WANT THE TOTAL NUMBER.
WHICH I TIN GET. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I.
WOULD LIKE IT BUT ALSO WITH 311.
BROKEN OUT WHICH IS A VARIOUS SOLUTION.
>> >'> I ' LL SEND A MEMO TO COUNCIL.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK YOU. ALDERMAN LOWE.
>> > > THANKS QUITE, YOUR PRAISE. THAT ' S EXACTLY THE CONCERN I. HAD OUTSTANDING ON IT AND OTHER THAN THAT UNLESS THERE'' S OTHER. LIGHTS ON– O.K.. JUST AS An ISSUE OF WHEN I REVIEW THE RECORD, I DISCOVER IT AN. INTERESTING REPORT TO READ. BATTLE WITH IT. I NEGLECT WHICH ATTACHMENT IT IS,.
THE CHRONOLOGY OR THE.
DEVELOPMENT OF IT AS WELL AS IT APPEARS TO ME YOUR PRAYER WHENEVER.
THIS GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WON AN.
AWARD THEY CUT THEIR BUDGET.SPELLED AVAILABLE. I POINTED OUT THAT TO AMONG THE. MEDIA INDIVIDUALS. HE CLAIMS THAT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE. JOURNALISM.
THERE WE ARE. THANKS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
ALDERMAN FARRELL– OH, YOU TURNED YOUR LIGHT OFF. YOU'' RE GOOD. ANYONE ELSE? ALL. SO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT.
Mr. STEVENS IS GOING TO TAKE ON THAT MEMO WE'' RE REQUESTING WITH.
THAT EXTRA INFORMATION,.
ALDERMAN LOWE, DID YOU INTENDED TO SHUT? ALL RIGHT AFTER THAT SO ON THE.
REFERRALS, OBTAIN THE REPORT TO DETAILS, AGREED? ANY OPPOSED?
FINANCE IN CORPORATION SERVICES, THING 10.2.1 IN YOUR PROGRAM,.
ALDERMAN LOWE.
>> > > ACTION THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE 3 READINGS OF THE.
PROPOSED LAW.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK YOU. DID YOU WISHED TO PRESENT IT AT
. ALL >>? > > NO', IT'' S STANDARD.
IT ' S THE BUILDING TAX OBLIGATION, TAX. LAW, STANDARD RECORD IS WHAT IT PERTAINS TO
>>. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:
. ALDERMAN COLLEY-URQUHART, YOU'' RE SECONDING? ANY CONVERSATION ON THIS ITEM? EXTREMELY WELL, AFTER THAT. ON THE REFERRALS ARE WE.
AGREED?
>> > > CONCURRED >>. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ANY
. OPPOSED? CARRIED. ANALYSIS OF BYLAW 11M-2011.
AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? SECOND READING OF THE BYLAW ARE.
CONSENT FOR THIRD ANALYSIS OF THE LAW ARE WE AGREED? CARRIED.THIRD READING OF THE
BYLAW ARE. ON BYLAW 12M-2011, FIRST ANALYSIS.
OF THE LAW ARE WE AGREED? 2ND READING OF THE LAW ARE.
WE AGREED? AUTHORIZATION FOR 3RD READING OF THE BYLAW? AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? 3RD ANALYSIS OF THE BYLAW ARE.
WE AGREED? > > YES, YOUR WORSHIP. I'' D BE HAPPY TO RELOCATE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE LPT WITH.
THE EXEMPT OF LPT-2011-11. AS YOU KNOW THERE WAS NO REFERRAL BY BOARD BUT.
I DO HAVE AN ALTERNATE.
REFERRAL THAT I WISH TO MOVE ON THAT SPECIFIC PRODUCT. ABSOLUTELY. SATISFIED TO MOVE ALL THE OTHERS AT THIS MOMENT. AND ALSO DELIGHTED TO OPEN AND ALSO CLOSE ON.
ANY AND ALL IF DEMAND BE. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU. DO YOU WANT TO OPEN ON THE MARLBOROUGH ONE?
>> > > WELL, VERY BRIEFLY LOOKING.
AS WELL AS IDENTIFYING VEHICLE PARKING ZONE, THIS ONE HAS BEEN AN PROBLEM FOR.
TIME EVEN BEFORE WE.
NOT ONLY THAT BUT AS WELL AS THE REALITY THAT AT ONE POINT THE. BILLING FOR THEIR CAR PARKING AND SOME OF THE CITIZENS REJECTED TO. PAY IT AND FINISHED UP AUTO PARKING ON.
THE ROAD WHICH FURTHER INTENSIFIED THE ENTIRE CONCERN. THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN PUTTING. UP WITH IT FOR TIME.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM. TO REQUEST THE REMAINDER OF THE.
ROAD TO GIVE ON-STREET VEHICLE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: AND I.
DO HAVE A QUESTION BUT I'' LL TAKE A SECONDER FOR ALL OF THESE WITH.
THE EXEMPTION OF THE SECONDARY.
SUITES ONE. CONTAINER I HAVE A SECONDER? THANKS, ALDERMAN HODGES. WE'' VE GOT THAT. Mr. LOGAN, AND ONLY BECAUSE.
THIS IS THE STREET, I HAVE A.
SPECIAL– THE ROAD I EXPANDED UP ON, I HAVE An UNIQUE INTEREST IN.
THIS PARTICULAR, IS THIS.
PARK-AND-RIDE DRIVEN.DO WE HAVE A
FEELING OF IF WE'' RE. DOING THIS ON APRIL 1st THE.
TROUBLE WILL DISAPPEAR? >> > > YOUR PRAISE, I WOULDN ' T SAY.
IT'' S ENTIRELY PARK-AND-RIDE.
DRIVEN. THERE IS ONE STATION WE HAVE.
VACANCIES IN THAT GREAT DEAL. I THINK THE ISSUE COMES FROM ALL KIND OF VARIOUS LAND UTILIZES.
IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA.
TO BE HONEST. THERE'' S A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL.
ADVANCEMENTS AND ALSO ALDERMAN CHABOT.
SIMPLY STATED THERE ARE MULTIFAMILIES THAT ARE RESULTING.
IN A GREAT DEAL OF CARS BEING ON THE.
ROAD. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SO.
GIVEN WHAT YOU JUST CLAIMED, SIMPLY.
FOR THE NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND ALSO MY EDIFICATION, THE NUMBER OF.
PARKING PASSES DO YOU OBTAIN IF YOU.
HAVE A HOME? >> > > 2>>.
>> > > YEAH. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: TWO.
>> > > YEAH. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:
2 ON. >> THE STREET.> > > YEAH. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: AS WELL AS I. KNOW THE MAJORITY OF THESE HOUSE DO HAVE BACK LANES AND ALSO GARAGES TOO.
>> > > YES>>. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THE VARIOUS OTHER QUESTION I HAD, THIS. STRIKES ME AS QUITE A HUGE ZONE.
ALONG MERIVALE DRIVE, THE STREET I EXPANDED UP ON, IT GOES ALMOST.
FROM 36 ROAD TO 32ers.
ROAD. DO WE DO THEM THIS LARGE? IT'' S QUITE A DISTANCE
FROM THE. CENTER OF TASK AND ALSO THE C TRAIN. >> > > TYPICALLY, YOUR WORSHIP, IF.
IT RELATED TO A PARTICULAR USAGE.
IT WOULD BE A SMALLER AREA. OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT THE.
PARKING AND ALSO WALKING DIMINISHES.
CONSIDERABLY AFTER REGARDING 4 TO 600 METRES.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: OKAY. GIVE THANKS TO YOU.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS.
ONE? ALDERMAN CHABOT DID YOU INTENDED TO CLOSE.
>> > > REALLY BRIEFLY, THIS IS.
ACTUALLY NOT A REALLY LARGE CAR PARKING LOCATION. IF YOU WILL CERTAINLY NOTE, THE LOCATION IS.
BOUNDED NORTH BY MARL FINANCIAL INSTITUTION DRIVE TO 36th STREET AS WELL AS EAST TO THE.
MIRANDA CLOSE.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I WAS CONSIDERING THE MAP. I WAS UNFORTUNATE THERE'' S NO MAP
IN. BELOW. WHEN YOU OBTAIN DOWN TO MERIVALE. DRIVE IT COPULATES TO.
50th STREET. IT'' S RATHER MUCH. > >> IT ONLY GOES DOWN TO.
MERIVALE. IT'' S ACTUALLY NOT A LONG BLOCK.
THERE. IT'' S IN AND AROUND THAT ENTIRE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING GROWTH.
AND ALSO IT'' S PREDOMINANTLY WHAT'' S. DRIVE ON THE PROBLEMS THAT ASSOCIATE WITH CAR PARKING SHORTAGES THAT.
EXIST ON THE ROAD.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: MANY THANKS SIGNIFICANTLY. I SIMPLY SAW THE MAP. I DIDN'' T NEED TO GOOGLE MAP IT. THANKS. IN FACT, YOUR HOME I MATURED IN.
IS SIMPLY BEYOND THE AREA SO ALL THE PARKING WOULD GO THERE.
BUT I DON'' T LIVE THERE ANY LONGER.
SO IT'' S ALL RIGHT. I WILL CERTAINLY CONSIDER THIS DISEASE. ON THE REFERRALS–.
ALDERMAN PINCOTT IS OPPOSED. THANK YOU ALDERMAN AND THEN.
THREE ANALYSES OF THE PROPOSED BYLAW, 13-M-2011, AGREED? 2ND ANALYSIS, ANY OPPOSED? ALDERMAN PINCOTT IS OPPOSED.
LEVIES UPDATE, ALDERMAN CHABOT,.
DID YOU INTENDED TO …? >> > > WELL, BRIEFLY, YOUR'WORSHIP,. WE ' VE ESTABLISHED LEVIES BASED.
ON FRONTAGE AS WELL AS I ASSUME THE PROPOSITION IS RATHER.
SIMPLE. MONIES THAT HAVE BEEN GATHERED WITH THE INTENTION OF BEING.
WHEN, spent AT SOME POINT TIME.
THEY'' RE REQUIRED FOR THE INTENDED FUNCTION. APART FROM THAT, VERY LITTLE EVEN MORE.
TO SAY.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THANKS, ALDERMAN CHABOT. ANY CONVERSATION OR QUESTIONS ON THIS THING? QUITE POSSIBLY, THEN, ON THE.
SUGGESTIONS ARE WE CONCURRED? ANY OPPOSED? BROUGHT.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THERE IT IS. LAW 18-M-2011, FIRST ANALYSIS OF THE BYLAW CONCURRED? SECOND ANALYSIS OF THE LAW.
AGREED IN CONSENT FOR THIRD READING OF THE BYLAW ARE.
WE AGREED? ANY OPPOSED. THIRD ANALYSIS OF THE BYLAW.
AGREED? THANK YOU.
10.3.3 THEN, AREA PRICE FOR LIMOS and taxis, ALDERMAN CHABOT.
>> > > YES, YOUR PRAISE. RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS TO AREA BASED PRICES FOR TAXI AND ALSO.
LIMOUSINE HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED.
BY T-LACK BOARD AND THERE WAS SOME ARGUMENT ON THIS PROBLEM IN.
COMMITTEE. THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT I WOULD ASK SOMEONE TO PUT ON MY.
PART AND ALSO IT'' S PARTICULARLY
IN. CONCERNS TO THE DAY OF IMPLEMENTATION, NATURALLY THE.
DAY OF IMPLEMENTATION SHOULD.
MIRROR THE DATE OF THE CLOSURE OF BARLOW AND I WEAR'' T BELIEVE.
THAT ' S
>> SHOWED ACCURATELY IN.
THE LAW. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:. > > COMES RIGHT INTO REQUIRE THE DAY IT ' S PASSED AS WELL AS THAT SHOULD IN FACT.
CLAIM THIS LAW ENTERS >> FORCE. ON APRIL 3rd. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SURE.
WOULD SOMEONE LAKE TO RELOCATE THAT. AMENDMENT, PLEASE? MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN STEVENSON. THANKS, ALDERMAN POOTMANS, ON. THE AMENDMENT ANY DISCUSSION? ON THE CHANGE CONCURRED? ANY OPPOSED? LUGGED. SO THE AMENDMENT IS AS YOU. RECOMMENDED. ALD– ALDERMAN CHABOT. >> > RESPECTFULLY, YOUR WORSHIP, I.
BELIEVE THE MODIFICATION ON THE.
LAW NEEDS TO GO TO SECONDLY ANALYSIS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: MY.
WE'' LL DO THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. QUESTION TO I GUESS IT'' S. OH, IT ' S
Mr. WATSON.
THAT WOULD BE MANY IMPACTED BY.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? > > TO THE CHAIR, YES, I TIN, YOUR PRAISE. THE FARES WERE ORIGINALLY SET A. NUMBER OF YEARS EARLIER BUT THIS TIME WE WENT BACK AND ALSO IN FACT.
PREVIOUS FARES WERE NOT ALL THAT. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SO
. WELL AS ALDERMAN CHABOT THINGS.
OUT WHAT THE CLOSURE OF BARLOW ROUTE
WE NEED TO REJIG THEM. BECAUSE THE, anyway THEer. DISTANCES ARE ALL VARIOUS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THIS. IS JUST ONE OF THE FIRST PLACES WE
>>. BEGIN TO SEE THE EFFECTS OF THAT.
DID YOU DESIRED TO CLOSE, ALDERMAN. CHABOT? JUST STATED, THE PRICES THAT ARE.
PATHS AND SO AS YOU SAID SOME ARE UP, SOME ARE DOWN. IT ' S GOOD TO SEE THAT SOME ARE.
NOT TO MY NEIGHBOURHOOD BUT TO THE NEIGHBOURHOOD NEXT DOOR. MAY OBTAIN REMOVED OFF ON THE.
CORNER FROM KNEW– NOW ON. (GIGGLING).
EXCELLENT. SO ON THE SUGGESTIONS AFTER THAT ARE WE AGREED? READING OF THE BYLAW ARE.
WE AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: RATHER THAN THE BYLAW UPCOMING IN, IT'' S. PASSED, THE LAW NEEDS TO COME.
RIGHT INTO COMPEL APRIL 3rd, 2011.
DAMAGE A SECONDLY– DO I HAVE A.
SECONDER? MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN JONES. ON THE MODIFICATION, AGREE. SECOND READING OF THE BYLAW AS.
AMENDED AGREED? ANY OPPOSED. CARRIED. CONSENT FOR THIRD ANALYSIS OF THE LAW, AGREED? ANY OPPOSED. BROUGHT. THIRD ANALYSIS OF THE LAW ARE.
HI, HOW DID 10.3.4 OBTAIN IN THE AGENDA IN DIDN'' T KNOW THAT
WAS. > > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. >> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: EXCUSE.
ME, I'' M SORRY, ALDERMAN CHABOT. PRIOR TO I IDENTIFY YOU, NEED TO.
DO A LITTLE HOUSE CLEANING BELOW. ALDERMAN MAR. >> > > THANKS. IT ' S WITH A HEAVINESS OF HEART, YOUR. WORSHIP, THAT I WILL AGAIN STATE AN RATE OF INTEREST IN
THIS. PROBLEM AS MUCH OF THE PUBLIC KNOW.
AND ALSO CERTAINLY MANAGEMENT AND COUNCIL IS CONSCIOUS I AM CURRENTLY.
STRUCTURE MY BRAND-NEW HOUSE WHICH.
INCLUDES A SECOND SUITE IN THE STRATEGY ABOVE THE GARAGE. BECAUSE OF THIS, I'' VE BEEN.
ACKNOWLEDGED BY CITY REGULATION DEPARTMENT IS HAVING A PECUNIARY.
INTEREST AS WELL AS WILL CERTAINLY NOT BE.
TAKING PART IN THE VOTE NOR IN THE DISCUSSION AND I EXCUSE.
MYSELF AS WELL AS HAVE THAT NOTED FOR.
THE MINUTES RIGHT NOW.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU, ALDERMAN MAR.
>> > > WITH A BROKEN HEART. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
ALDERMAN KEATING.
>> > > THANKS, YOUR PRAYER. REGRETTABLY I FIND MYSELF IN.
THE SAME BOAT AS IT WILL CERTAINLY BE.
WITHIN A MATTER OF DAYS OR WEEKS OR SO THAT I WILL CERTAINLY BE APPLYING.
FOR A SECONDARY COLLECTION IN MY.
KEY RESIDENCE SO I'' M DECLARING A MONETARY RATE OF INTEREST.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU. WOULD YOU MIND JUST EXPLAINING.
THIS PECUNIARY PASSION FOR THE.
INTERESTS OF THOSE WHO ARE VIEWING.
>> > > DEFINITELY, YOUR PRAISE. THE MUNICIPAL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ENFORCES CONSTRAINTS ON PARTICIPANTS OF.
COUNCIL REGARD TO PECUNIARY.
RATE OF INTERESTS, PARTICULARLY SECTIONS 170 TO 174 OF THE MGA ARE.
EXCEPTIONALLY VITAL AS WELL AS THE MGA.
LAY OUT THAT USUALLY SPEAKING THE PARTICIPANT OF COUNCIL HAS.
PECUNIARY PASSION IF THE MATTER.
COULD MONETARILY AFFECT THE COUNCILLOR. EACH MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAS AN.
COMMITMENT TO EXAMINE THEIR OWN CIRCUMSTANCES AND MAKE THE.
DECISION IF THEY HAVE A.
PECUNIARY PASSION AND IF THEY DO THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DIVULGE.
THAT BOTH AT COMMITTEE AND.
COUNCIL MEETING.AND THEY NECESSITY
DIVULGE THIS.
PECUNIARY RATE OF INTEREST BEFORE THE.
DISCUSSION OF THE MATTER BY BOARD OR BY COUNCIL. AS WELL AS THEY REQUIREMENT AVOID.
VOTING AND BASED ON VERY RESTRICTED EXTENSIONS WHICH DO NOT.
APPLY IN THIS SITUATION THEY ARE.
REQUIRED TO LEAVE THE AREA. THE EFFECT FOR.
NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THIS.
DETAILS IS INCOMPETENCY FROM COUNCIL. IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE.
BOTH ALDERMAN MAR AS WELL AS ALDERMAN KEATING EITHER HAVE AN.
APPLICATION IN THE HELPS A.
SECONDARY SUITE OR HAVE ONE THAT IS UPCOMING FORWARD IMMINENTLY AND ALSO.
BY TAKING PART IN THIS.
ISSUE IT IS VERY FEASIBLE THEY WOULD BE MAKING IT MUCH EASIER.
ANDLESS EXPENSIVE FOR THEMSELVES.
TO GET APPROVAL IN ADDITION TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WOULD.
BE ENHANCING THE VALUE OF THEIR.
PERSONAL REAL ESTATE IF AS A MATTER OF FACT THE COLLECTION IS CONSTRUCTED.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
> > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. > > WELL, VERY BRIEFLY LOOKING.
> > YEAH. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.SLOAN, BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, I JUST DESIRED TO HIGHLIGHT
SOMETHING. YOU CLAIMED EITHER HAVE AN APPLICATION CURRENTLY AROUND
OR HAVE ONE UNAVOIDABLE DOES THE DIVISION HAVE AN OPINION ON WORDS IMPENDING.
WHAT THAT MEANS?
>> > > YOUR WORSHIP, THAT ' S REALITY SPECIFIC. EVERY ARGUABLE PECUNIARY
INTEREST MUST BE ANALYZED ON ITS DETAILS. VERY CLEAR THAT HE HAVE AN APPLICATION IN THE SYSTEM. IN THAT HIS APPLICATION IS NOT.
IN THE SYSTEM BUT BASED UPON.
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD, THIS IS NOT An EMPTY PROMISE OR REALLY.
LONG-RANGE POSSIBILITY THAT MAY.
INVOLVE FULFILLMENT ONE DAY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HE PLANS.
ON MAKING A FACT IN THE VERY.
NEAR FUTURE. THE ACT ITSELF DOES NOT SPEAK.
TO IMTHENCY. THAT IS A CIRCUMSTANCE THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC TO HIS CIRCUMSTANCE.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU QUITE, Ms. SLOAN. I BELIEVE EVERYBODY APPRECIATE.
THAT EXPLANATION. SURE, I'' LL TAKE IT NOW. > >> THANK YOU.
>> > > Ms. SLOAN, CANISTER YOU SIMPLY.
EXPAND ON– I IMPLY, I WEAR'' T SEE HOW ANYBODY THAT OWNS A HOME.
THAT CONCEIVABLY COULD BE.
UPZONED TO A COLLECTION AND BENEFIT FROM THAT FINANCIAL CHECKLIST IS NOT.
ALSO IN An ECONOMIC PLACEMENT.
>> > > YOUR PRAYER, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT IS THE OBLIGATION OF.
EACH MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO MAKE.
THEIR OWN DETERMINATION.BASED ON THEIR
OWN VERY CERTAIN.
REALITIES. SO WHAT WE'' RE DOING IS SPEAKING ABOUT THE CONCERN IN A REALLY.
GENERAL WAY. ONE THING THAT I WOULD MENTION TO COUNCIL IS THAT THERE THERE.
ARE A NUMBER OF EXCEPTIONS TO.
WHEN A PECUNIARY RATE OF INTEREST EXISTS AND THOSE ARE OUTLINED IN.
SECTION 170 SUB 3 IN THE MGA AND.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM AS WELL AS ONE OF THEM IS EVEN THOUGH A.
PARTICIPANT OF COUNCIL COULD– OR A.
ISSUE COULD MONETARILY AFFECT A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, THAT DOES NOT.
COME TO BE A MONETARY PASSION IF.
THE MATTER– OR IF THE PASSION IS HELD IN COMMON WITH THE.
MAJORITY OF ELECTORS OF THE.
MUNICIPALITY OR IF IT ONLY IMPACTS COMPONENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND ALSO THAT'' S UNDER SUBSECTION I.
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, WE ARE OF THE SIGHT THAT DUE TO.
THE IMTHENCY OF THE APPLICATION.
AND ALSO AS A RESULT OF THE APPLICATION THAT'' S ALREADY IN THE FUNCTIONS,.
THIS ISN'' T FALLING WITHIN THE. WORLD OF GENERAL ELECTORS.PEOPLE WHO OWN PROPERTY, SURE,. IT ' S CERTAINLY APPROXIMATELY THEM– OR.
THE OPPORTUNITY EXISTS THEY COULD MAKE AN APPLICATION TO.
UPZONE THEIR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AS YOU.
SUGGESTED. THESE ARE TWO REALLY REAL.
AND VERY PROMPT CIRCUMSTANCES I.
WOULD SUGGEST SEPARATED FROM THE BASIC INTERESTS OF.
> > MANY THANKS, Ms. SLOAN. > > YES. > > MY INQUIRY WAS, IS
THE–.
THEMSELVES, IS IT IRREVERSIBLE ON THAT MATTER?
>> >'> I ' M NOT>> CERTAIN. > > OR CAN THEY CAN BE FOUND IN AND OUT ON IT>>? > > YOUR PRAISE, UNLESS THE.
CIRCUMSTANCE CHANGES SIGNIFICANTLY, I WEAR'' T SEE HOW ONE COULD COME. IN AND OUT. ONCE ONE IS DECLARED A PECUNIARY RATE OF INTEREST, THEY HAVE A PECUNIARY.
INTEREST AS WELL AS THE ACT DOES SPEAK.
TO THAT TO SOME EXTENT.WITH RESPECT
TO DECLARING THE.
PASSION AT COMMITTEE THEY ARE.
BOUND TO ELIMINATE THEMSELVESES FROM COUNCIL.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
ALDERMAN POOTMANS FOR MS. SLOAN?
>> > > MANY THANKS, YOUR PRAYER. Ms. SLOAN, YOU STATED THE EFFECTS COULD BE.
DISQUALIFICATION FROM COUNCIL. COULD YOU BROADEN ON THAT. I'' M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT A. INCOMPETENCY FROM COUNCIL.
REALLY IMPLIES. >> > > ABSOLUTELY. YOUR WORSHIP. IT IS EXTREMELY CONSIDERABLE EFFECTS AND ALSO WHAT THAT IMPLIES.
IS YOU ARE NO LONGER A PARTICIPANT OF.
COUNCIL. YOU ARE DEPOSTED, SO TO SPEAK.
>> > > DEPOSTED.
>> > > YES, AND ALSO, YOUR WORSHIP, AREA 174 OF THE “MUNICIPAL.
GOVERNMENT ACT”” SPEAKS.
ESPECIALLY TO THAT AND ALSO IT REQUIRES THAT– EXCUSE ME.
175 TALKS WITH THAT. AND IT SPEAKS WITH THE REALITY THAT A COUNCILLOR THAT IS DISQUALIFIED,.
WHICH IS EXPLAINED UNDER AREA.
174 NECESSITY RESIGN QUICKLY. , if A COUNCILLOR DOES NOT RESIGN.
.
IMMEDIATELY, AFTER THAT COUNCIL MAY.
APPLY BY ORIGINATING NOTIFICATION TO THE COURT TO OBTAIN AN ORDER.
FIGURING OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY.
WERE QUALIFIED OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL PECUNIARY PASSION AND ALSO.
WHETHER THEY NEEDS TO BE.
DISQUALIFIED.ALTERNATIVELY AN ELECTOR MAY.
MAKE THAT SAME APPLICATION.
> > MANY THANKS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I.>> DON ' T KNOW WHY BUT I SIMPLY LOCATE.
THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION TERRIBLY MORBID SUDDENLY. ALDERMAN FARRELL OR HODGES FOR. Ms. SLOAN? > > Ms. SLOAN, THE COURTS HAVE. DONE THIS IN ALBERTA AND I THINK.
THE THE MAJORITY OF RECENT EXAMPLE I REMEMBER
IS MEDICINE HAT. WASN ' T ON A MATTER OF LAND USE. IT WAS ON An ISSUE OF ORGANIZATION OR SERVICE PERMITS I RECALL IN. THE EARLY ' 80s.
IS THAT NOT 'CASE? SO THERE ARE SOME ACTUAL COURT. DECISIONS.
> > THERE ARE
>> DEFINITELY ARE, YOUR PRAYER. THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. SPECIFICALLY IN ALBERTA. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
INQUIRY FOR Ms. SLOAN,.
ALDERMAN FARRELL? > > THANK YOU.
PLANNING DIVISION AND THERE'' S. NO LIVE APPLICATION OR NO IMPENDING APPLICATION, THEN THE.
CIRCUMSTANCE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE CHANGED. IS THAT CORRECT? >> > > YOUR WORSHIP, EVERY COLLECTION OF.
SITUATIONS MUST BE TAKEN A LOOK AT.
IT ' S VERY FEASIBLE THAT SCENARIOS COULD ADJUSTMENT IN. WHICH CASE THAT MAYBE WE COULD.
RE-EXAMINE IT. BUT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, I ' M EXTREMELY. RELUCTANT TO OFFER ANY COVERING.
ADVICE. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE TRUTHS ARE REALLY
. CRITICAL TO THESE.
DECISIONS.
> > OKAY. >> THANKS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I'' M SCARED TO BUT I WILL. SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE.
ALDERMEN WHO RECUSED HIMSELF HAS HIS APPLICATION FOR THE LAND USE.
CHANGED ACCEPTED BY THIS.
COUNCIL, SO COUNCIL NO LONGER HAS POWER OVER IT, COULD THAT.
ALDERMAN PRESUMABLY THEN ARGUMENT.
ON FUTURE SECONDARY SUITE DEBATES?
( PLEASE WAIT).
THE REALITIES TIN MAKE IT FEELING VERY DIFFERENT AFTER.
>> > > O.K..
ALL RIGHT.I WON ' T BELABOUR THE ISSUE. YOUR PRAISE, I HAVE, I.
BELIEVE, 35 DUPLICATES, THERE'' S A WORD THAT I'' VE OMITTED ON.
THESE SO I ' VE BEEN SWIFTLY.
ATTEMPTING TO PEN THE ENHANCEMENT BELOW AS I ' VE BEEN LISTENING TO. ALL THIS VERY FASCINATING.
DEBATE ON PECULIARRY INTEREST.
I DIDN ' T FAIRLY GIVE YOU 35. HOPEFULLY THERE ' S ENOUGH FOR PARTICIPANTS OF COUNCIL WHILE I. CONTINUE TO MAKE THESE. LET ' S HAVE A LOOK AT THAT.
YOUR WORSHIP, I HAVE 5. SUGGESTIONS RIGHT HERE.
LOCATE A CONCESSION TO OFFER ADDED SECONDARY.
COLLECTIONS OR FACILITIES OF.
SECONDARY SUITES IN AREAS WHERE IT'' S MORE CONDUCIVE TO.
DO SO. ALTHOUGH I HAVE 5 REFERRALS RIGHT HERE, I'' M. PERSONALLY NOT PREPARED TO PUT. FORTH ALL 5 REFERRALS. I WILL CERTAINLY SEND THESE 5 BUT.
I'' M ONLY PREPARED TO MOVE SUGGESTION ONE AT THIS. TIME, AND BEING AS ALL PARTICIPANTS. OF COUNCIL WILL CERTAINLY THEN HAVE THIS IN HAND, IF SOMEONE SHOULD.
SELECT TO MAKE SOME FURTHER.
CHANGES, FURTHER REFERRALS, I''
D BE. CERTAINLY READY TO LISTEN.
AND BALLOT ACCORDINGLY.BUT NOW I
' M NOT. PREPARED TO RELOCATE THOSE OTHERS,. YOUR PRAYER, SO RESPECTFULLY I ' M RELOCATING RECOMMENDATION 1,. ALLOW THE CHIPS FALL WHERE
THEY. MAY. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANKS >>,. ALDERMAN CHABOT.
RIGHT BEFORE I REQUEST SECOND AND ALSO PRIOR TO YOU SIT DOWN.
THERE'' S A WORDING CHANGE ON. NUMBER ONE THAT WE MAY DESIRE TO MAKE HERE.
>> > > R 2 CONTAINER BE EXCLUDED FROM.
THAT CHECKLIST, YOUR PRAISE. BECAUSE, I JUST OBSERVED THAT.
IT'' S ALREADY
DETAILED AS. ALLOWED UNDER R 2 >>. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I. THINK I TIN FIGURE IT OUT FROM.
THERE. IT IS SECONDARY SUITES.
CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN.
DISCRETIONARY USAGE SO THAT'' S WHAT WE ' RE REALLY ASKING THEM. > > THAT ' S CORRECT. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI:
SO THE.
EXEMPTION OF R2 WITHIN THE.
WE'' LL OBTAIN THAT UP ON THE. I THINK THAT STAFF HAS AN ELECTRONIC VARIATION.
ONE, PLEASE? WHAT WE'' LL DO, ALDERMAN CHABOT,.
IS WE'' LL TAKE THAT ONE AND. AFTER THAT IF INDIVIDUALS INTEND TO MOVE THE OTHER ONES OR ANYTHING.
ELSE WE'' LL TAKE THEM AFTER.
THIS ONE.SO ON THIS AND THE SUGGESTION. HERE IS TO CHANGE FROM.
DISCRETIONARY USAGE TO PERMITTED USAGE IN THE AREAS FOR SECONDARY.
COLLECTIONS ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED.
AS A DISCRETIONARY USE. Mr. WATSON, COULD YOU SIMPLY.
PROMOTE A MINUTE ON THE.
NATURE OF THE CHARM THAT WE CURRENTLY GET IN THESE.
AREAS. ALL RIGHT. IT'' S SIMPLY– IT ' S– I ASSUME.
YOU ' VE ALL GOT IT'BY.
E-MAIL AS WELL'. WHAT WE ' VE GOT NOW IS JUST. NUMBER 1.
>> THAT ' S ALL THAT '
>> S ON THE FLOOR NOW.
>> YEP, I BELIEVE IT
>> ' S UPCOMING. > > YOU CAN STRIKE R2 OUT OF THAT CHECKLIST. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: YEAH.
>> > > NO, ACTUALLY. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: O.K..
ARE YOU ALL READY? ALL RIGHT, AFTER THAT.
SORRY, LOTS WATSON. BACK TO YOU. > > REASON ME, TO THE CHAIR.
CONSIDERING THAT THE LAND USE LAW WAS. APPROVED IN 2007, IN JUNE OF. THAT YEAR THERE ' S BEEN 159 ACTUAL SECONDARY COLLECTION. APPLICATIONS.
A LOT OF OF THE APPEALS WE GET ARE NOT WITH
SECONDARY. SUITE APPLICATIONS.
THEY ' RE ACTUALLY THROUGH ORDERS THAT ARE PUT ON. GRIEVANCES'THAT WE INVESTIGATE.
THAT WE'THEN RELOCATE TO ORDERS TO EVENTUALLY DEAL WITH. ACTUALLY WE ' RE RUNNING OUT OF.
ABOUT– WE ' RE RUNNING CONCERNING A THOUSAND OF THOSE GRIEVANCES A. YEAR. AS WELL AS THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE TKHUL THE BULK OF THE FUNCTION.
THAT ACTUALLY GOES WITH TO. SDAB DUE TO TRAINING COURSE THREATEN THE APPLICANT ATTEMPTS. TO GET A DEVELOPMENT AUTHORIZATION. IF REFUSED GOES TO SDAB, WORKING VIA THE PROCESS OF.
SDAB. FASCINATING SUFFICIENT IN ORDER 2, WHICH IS WHERE WE WERE SIMPLY.
CLAIMING THAT SECONDARY SUITES.
IS ACTUALLY A PERMITTED USE, WE'' VE HAD EXTREMELY, REALLY FEW. APPLICATIONS GIVEN THAT THE LAND.
USE BYLAW HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. R2, IF YOU'' LL REMEMBER,.
COUNCIL, IS ON THE EXTERNAL EDGES. IT'' S R2 IS NOW IN THE.
CREATING AREAS.IT ' S NOT IN THE ESTABLISHED.
AREAS. IN THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE YOU COULD HAVE A SECONDARY.
SUITE, NATURALLY YOU CANISTER HAVE.
OTHER UTILIZES. SEMI-DETACHED, AND SO ON. A LOT OF THOSE ARE LOOKING TO.
SEMI-DETACHED AS OPPOSED TO THE (INDISCERNIBLE).
TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION SECOND COLLECTION. YOUR WORSHIP, I'' M UNSURE WHETHER THAT COMPLETELY ANSWERED IT.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: IT.
THANK YOU. > > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
YOUR PRAISE, THE.
TAKES PLACE TO THE MANAGEMENT SUGGESTION THAT IS WERE ON. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI:.
DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE COMMITTEE IS. SENDING THIS TO COUNCIL WITHOUT REFERRAL, WHAT.
ALDERMAN CHABOT PUT ON THE.
FLOORING IS THE ONLY THING ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW.
>> > > YOUR WORSHIP, IF THIS.
ACTIVITY PASSES, THEN THE PROPER MOTION, I BELIEVE, WOULD BE TO.
SUBMIT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> > > OF MANAGEMENT. >
>> > OF MANAGEMENT.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I.
THINK THAT'' S RIGHT. >> >'I ' LL SPEAK WITH THIS SHORTLY,. JUST BRIEFLY, YOUR PRAYER. Mr. WATSON, THIS IS THE 116.000 SUITES WE WERE TOLD.
ABOUT, UNITS THAT COULD BE. USED RIGHT NOW IN BOARD? > > THAT 116.000, YOUR WORSHIP,.
WERE THE VARIETY OF PARTIALS THAT WERE UNDER VARIOUS.
DISTRICTS THAT ALLOWED.
SECONDARY COLLECTIONS. SO THEY ARE RCU 1 AS WELL AS THE RC.
2. THE R 1 AS WELL AS THE R2. THE R2 M AND THE R 1 S. THOSE ARE ALL THE VARIETY OF.
PARCELS THAT EXIST IN THE CITY WHICH COMPLETES SIMPLY OVER.
116.000, OF WHICH WE'' VE DONE.
SOME FURTHER CALCULATION, ALMOST 86.000, 87.000 OF THOSE.
HAVE SOLITARY DETACHED HOMES ON.
THEM TODAY. IF YOU REALLY ASSUMES ABOUT.
THAT, REALLY FEW INDIVIDUALS ARE.
GOING TO PROBABLY GO FROM A SINGLE REMOVED HOUSE TO A.
SECONDARY SUITE IN TERMS OF.
PUTTING ONE IN.SO YOU'' RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT.
REGARDLESS THAT'' S 116.000. THAT ' S WHAT TOP NUMBER IS. NUMBER OF– THAT WAS MAINLY IN CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH YOU HAD A.
STRANDED PARCEL AND AND ALSO TO.
ENABLE ADAPTABILITY FOR SOMEBODY TO PUT A SECONDARY COLLECTION IN. > > A NUMBER
OF THESE PARCELS.
BETTER THAN An ADDITIONAL SUITE
. MORE'EXTREME USAGE THAN SIMPLY–. > > THAT ' S.
ESPECIALLY THE MULTIFAMILIES,. THE OPPORTUNITIES OF YOU WISHING TO BOOST YOUR VALUE BY PLACING.
A SECONDARY COLLECTION IN IS.
VERY LITTLE UNLESS THERE'' S NOTHING ELSE AND YOU'' RE A STRANDED.
PARCEL OR YOU HAVE A SINGLE.
SEPARATED HOUSE.I DO SOME
PEOPLE MAY USAGE IT AS.
SHORT-LIVED USE.
>> > > YEAH. >> > > BUT YOUR PRAISE, AFTER.
HEARING THAT IN BOARD,.
THAT WAS WHY I WAS BASICALLY AGAINST THE NUMBER 1 AREAS. I FELT WE OUGHT TO OPTIMIZE THE.
USE OF THE LOCATIONS THAT HAVEN'' T BEEN MAXIMIZED YET. I ASSUME'THERE ' S MOVEMENT AS WELL AS THE. DISCUSSION THAT A VARIETY OF US HAVE HAD MORE THAN THE WEEKEND BREAK THAT.
SPED UP THESE 5.
REFERRALS WAS WOW, REGRETTABLE WE DIDN'' T HAVE IT BEFORE. BOARD. COULD HAVE SAVED A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND ALSO IT COULD HAVE SAVED A LOT.
OF INITIATIVE OVER THE LAST TWO.
WEEKS. PROBABLY A GREAT DEAL OF NAME-CALLING.
ALSO THAT'' S BEEN CREATED.
FROM THIS. I'' M NOT DIRECTLY An INDIVIDUAL.
THAT COUNTS ON SURVEYS. I RELY ON THE CALLS AND THE EMAILS THAT I'' VE RECEIVED IN.
MY OFFICE, AND THEY WERE REALLY.
PREDOMINANT OUT OF 9-1 BASIS ON INDIVIDUALS WERE REALLY INSISTENT.
THEY DID NOT NEED THESE IN AN.
R1 LOCATION IN MY COMMUNITIES. THAT ALSO ORIGINATED FROM EVERYONE.
IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
OF WHICH I HAVE LETTERS FROM THEM INDICATING THE SAME.
POINT. THAT WAS WHY I TOOK THE STANCE THAT I DID. WITH THIS MOTION, AT LEAST.
NUMBER 1, WE'' LL SEE WHAT TAKES PLACE WITH 2, 3, 4, AND 5,.
WITH NUMBER A MINIMUM OF IT.
ADDRESSES THE WORRIES THAT EVERYONE HAS ABOUT AFFORDABLE.
REAL ESTATE IN THE INTERIM. IT ENABLES OPPORTUNITY OF IN EXCESS OF 116.000 WEBSITES.
WHERE WE CONTAINER PUT SECONDARY.
SUITES.AND I PRESUME THAT ' S A START. WE'' LL SEE WHAT TAKES PLACE IN.
FUTURE. THANKS, YOUR PRAYER.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: MANY THANKS.
JONES. ON NUMBER 1, ALDERMAN.
> > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. I ' M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
IT CONNECTS TO DISTANCE TO AN.
LRT STATION. IN NUMBER 1, R1, SUITES WOULD.
END UP BEING A PERMITTED USAGE. UNDER 3, THEY WOULD BECOME A DISCRETIONARY USAGE?
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: NO,.
ALDERMAN POOTMANS. NUMBER 1 ONLY TALKS TO R1 F,.
R1 LF.
>> > > I MISSED OUT ON THAT, THANKS. >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THOSE.
ARE THE ONES THAT ALREADY HAVE.
SECONDARY SUITES OF WHICH THERE ARE VERY FEW IN THE CITY.
NOW. I THINK IF I WAS READING THE MAP APPROPRIATELY THERE ARE A.
GRAND TOTAL AMOUNT OF FIVE PARCELS.
THAT ARE R1 S TODAY.I DO THANK YOU
. I'' LL COME BACK ON OTHER.
> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: DID I.
GET THAT WRONGMISDOING Mr. WATSON? > > REASON ME. YOU REFUSED EVEN MORE THAN 5, I THINK IN COUGAR RIDGE, ABOUT.
15 MINS AGO, BUT IT IS A.
SMALLER NUMBER THAN A FEW OF THE OTHER NUMBERS WE WERE.
CHATTING.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANKS. ALDERMAN CARRA.
>> > > I DON ' T REALLY HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS OTHER THAN I'' M. TOTALLY ON BEHALF OF IT.
>> > > YOUR WORSHIP, ALDERMAN JONES SUMMED UP THE MAJORITY OF.
MY EXPERIENCE EXTREMELY CLEARLY. I ALSO– SURVEYS I TOOK A LOOK AT ARE THE EMAILS AS WELL AS CALLS I.
GET, BUT I EVEN DAMAGE IT DOWN.
A LITTLE LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN THAT. THOSE THAT SAT DOWN AS WELL AS WRITTEN.
ME A THOUGHTFUL KEEP IN MIND AS AGAINST A COMMONPLACE ARE.
THE ONES THAT I TOOK A LOOK AT. A LOT OF CERTAINLY 9-1 WAS THE PROPORTION I WAS GETTING OUT OF MY.
WARD.
8-2 FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CITY COMING INTO ME. IT DOES PUT 116.000 PARCELS.
OUT THERE IN WHICH WE CANISTER SECONDARY SUITES CAN ENTER. THE QUANTITY– THE LAND USE WE.
DID ON SAGE HILL, AMONG MY CONCERNS WAS THAT WE POSITIONED.
THOSE R1 S LOTS REALLY, EXTREMELY.
VERY CAREFULLY, VERY MINDFUL ASSESSMENT WITH THE.
APPLICANT AT THE TIME,.
RECOGNIZING THE TRUTH THAT IT WAS– IT'' S NOT A LANED.
ITEM. WE PLACED THEM SO THEY'' D BE SENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY ARE THIS BUT IT WILL.
BE 15 OR TWENTY YEARS PRIOR TO WE REALIZE WHAT THE UPTAKE ON.
THOSE WILL CERTAINLY BE. AT LEAST NOW THOSE WHO PURCHASE THE GREAT DEALS UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY CANISTER DO.
WITH THEM. THOSE WHO BUY THE WHOLE LOTS AROUND THEM KNOW WHAT MAY BE EXPECTED.
IN THE FUTURE. WHICH'' S THE
KEY.AND SO I HAVE NO DIFFICULTY.
WITH NUMBER 1. YOUR PRAYER. > > POINT OF ORDER.
SHOULD WE BE REVIEWING NUMBER.
1 CURRENTLY, AFTER THAT WE CAN PROCEED >> TO. THE OTHERS? > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI
: ALITY.
>> HODGES. > >'EVERYBODY ' S GOT ONE EVEN MORE INDICATE MAKE TODAY. IT'' S VERY FASCINATING DAY.
TODAY. PRAYER, AND ALSO PARTICIPANTS OF.
COUNCIL, NUMBER 1, COUNCIL.
HEREBY DIRECT ADMINISTRATION. THE LAST PAIR LINES OF.
NUMBER 1 IS “” WOULD NOT CALL FOR.
DEVELOPMENT PERMIT WHILE DETACHED TYPES OF SECONDARY.
COLLECTIONS SUCH AS– IN SUCH LAND.
USAGE DISTRICTS WILL CERTAINLY REMAIN AS A DISCRETIONARY USE””. . BUT WHAT'' S BEING MISSED OUT ON IS OUR REGULARS, THE LANDOWNERS,.
CALL FOR A BUILDING AUTHORIZATION. SOMEPLACE, MR. WATSON, I'' D LIKE SOMEONE TO PUT IN RED.
HIGHLIGHTED LETTERS,.
NEEDS FOR BUILDING PERMITS, WHETHER THEY REQUIREMENT A.
GROWTH PERMIT OR NOT. GENERALLY AROUND BELOW WE UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT OUT IN THE REAL WORLD,.
THEY DON'' T.I EVEN OBTAINED A CALL ON FRIDAY.
FROM A PERSON IS SIMPLY THE.
ORDER OF AN UNLAWFUL COLLECTION, RC 2 DISTRICT, AND WHAT HE DESIRED.
TO SEE TO IT IS ALL THIS GOT.
PASSED ON MONDAY SO HIS PROHIBITED COLLECTION COULD BE.
LEGALIZED. SORRY, LITTLE FRIEND, YOU NEVER EVER DID INCONVENIENCE WITH A STRUCTURE.
LICENSE, DID YOU. I DIDN'' T DIFFICULTY HIM WITH THE FACTS.
DIVISION PRODUCES DOES THAT,.
THIS ISN'' T A BESTSELLER YET, WHICH IT OUGHT TO BE.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI:.
> > WELL, NO, I DON'' T THINK IT. YOU ' RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT,.
OUR EXPECTATION AS WELL AS CERTAINLY OUR HOPE WOULD BE THAT ANY NEW.
CONSTRUCTION WOULD REQUIREMENT A.
BUILDING PERPLTD, AND ANYONE THAT WISHES TO BE AVAILABLE IN AT ANY.
POINT AND ALSO SAY I'' VE GOT A SUITE.
AND ALSO MAYBE I DIDN'' T KNOW I WAS EXPECTED TO HAVE A.
STRUCTURE AUTHORIZATION, WE WOULD WANT.
TO TAKE THEM THROUGH THAT PROCEDURE. NOW, THERE IS FURTHER ON IN.
THE REFERRALS BELOW SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ALBERTA.
BUILDING CODE, THE COMPANION.
PAPER, THE FIRE CODE THAT WE'' RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO
SOME. OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY WHO HAS BUILT A COLLECTION DOESN'' T WANT TO.
IN.BUT ALSO FURTHER ON THERE'' S. SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE.
CAN CONCENTRATE ON ENFORCEMENT, IDEAS, AS WELL AS MAYBE TRANSFORM THIS.
INTO A BESTSELLER AT SOME.
IT'' S A GENUINE CHALLENGE. I'' M NOT GOING TO STAND BELOW
.
COLLECTIONS THAT HAVE NOT COME FORWARD, DON'' T WISH TO COME.
FORWARD, (INDISCERNIBLE).
INCENTIVE BUT CERTAINLY OUR HOPE WOULD BE THAT WE END UP.
WITH SECURE SUITES, RISK-FREE LEGAL.
SUITES WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION.
>> > > I CONCUR, Mr. WATSON. YOUR PRAYER, I ASSUME SOMEWHERE IN THIS.
SUGGESTION THE REFERENCE.
TO A STRUCTURE AUTHORIZATION BEING REQUIRED SHOULD EXIST. I UNDERSTAND IT'' S BUILT. (INDISCERNIBLE) BUT STILL IT SHOULD BE THERE. THE ENTIRE PROCEDURE DOESN'' T END. WHETHER YOU REQUIRED An ADVANCEMENT AUTHORIZATION OR NOT, OR LAND USE.
IF ALDERMAN HODGES WERE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS CLAIMING WHERE.
IT CLAIMS “” CONSEQUENTLY NOT.
REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT AUTHORIZATION BUT WOULD NEED A STRUCTURE.
AUTHORIZATION””, WOULD THAT BE LEGIT?
>> > > YOUR WORSHIP, THE DIFFICULTY IS THAT IT'' S
THE. DISTRICT THAT DETERMINES WHAT.
REQUIRES A BUILDING PERMIT AND ALSO WHAT DOES NOT NEED A.
BUILDING PERMIT. IT'' S NOT THE LAND USAGE LAW.
AS WELL AS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY CODE ACT IS.
VERY CLEAR THAT THE EXTENT TO. WHICH A LAW PURPORTS TO MANAGE SOMETHING IN THE.
RURAL DOMAIN NAME IS. >> DEFECTIVE. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: WHEN
. WE SAY PERMITTED USAGE RIGHT NOW,.
I BELIEVE IT'' S ESSENTIAL FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THIS,.
WHEN WE SAY PERMITTED USE IN.
OUR LAND USE BYLAW NOW, DOES THAT AUTOMATICALLY IMPLY.
THAT A STRUCTURE PERMIT IS.
REQUIRED? >> > > YOUR PRAISE, I BELIEVE.
GENERALLY TALKING YES.
SOMETHING TO REMEMBER IS THAT ALTHOUGH SOMETHING.
MAY BE An ALLOWED USAGE IT.
DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT IS EXEMPT FROM REQUIRING A.
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORIZATION. THE ONLY TIME THAT SOMETHING IS EXEMPT FROM A GENERAL PRACTITIONER REURPBLT.
IS IF IT'' S IN THE
LIST OF. SPECIFIC EXEMPTIONS.
>> > >. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT.
THIS MOVEMENT PRESUPPOSES FOR A MODIFICATION TO THE LAND USE BYLAW. YES?
>> IF YOU WANT IT ESPECIALLY EXCUSED FROM A GROWTH, > >.
PERMIT NEED, I WOULD.
RECOMMEND THAT YOU PUT THAT IN THERE.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: IT.
DOES SAY THAT, DOESN'' T IT, COLLECTIONS AS WELL AS CONNECTED KINDS IN.
SUCH LAND USAGE DISTRICTS WOULD.
NOT REQUIRE ADVANCEMENT–.
>> > > EXCUSE ME, YES, IT DOES.
>> > > MY CONCERN STILL REMAINS, YOUR WORSHIP, NOBODY IS GOING.
UP TO EDMONTON OR TAPPING IN.
ON LINE, AS I PRESUME IT IS NOWADAYS, TO OBTAIN A BUILDING.
AUTHORIZATION. THE WHIP DOWN BELOW AS THOUGH EXPECTED TO UP ON THE THIRD.
FLOORING IN THE STRUCTURE.
POLICIES SECTION.SO TECHNICALLY Ms. SLOAN IS. CORRECT, BUT AGAIN CITIES IN.
THE BUSINESS OF OFFERING BUILDING PERMITS. , if ANY INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE SO GOOD AS.
.
TO BRING SOME DRAWINGS BECAUSE WOULD INDICATE WHAT THEY'' RE.
GOING TO DO.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: UNDERSTANDING WHAT Ms.
> > YOUR WORSHIP, THAT ' S FACT SPECIFIC. > > THAT ' S CORRECT. > > THAT ' S. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANK YOU. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: WHEN
.SLOAN
HAS SUGGESTED AND ALSO
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BYLAW AMENDMENT IS YET AHEAD BACK,
, if YOU WANTED TO PUT AN
CHANGE TO PUT THOSE WORDS IN TO DIRECT AS BEST WE CONTAINER
THE LAW AMENDMENT BEING
REQUESTED HERE, I WOULD ALLOW THAT IF YOU WISHED TO DO THIS NOW.
>> > > YEAH. WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT THEREFORE NOT REQUIRE A.
BUILDING PERMIT, COME MARKS.
MAY REQUIRE A BUILDING LICENSE, COMMA, WHILE SEPARATED.
TYPES, THEN THE REMAINDER OF IT IS.
A SEPARATE– REALLY A SEPARATE PART OF THE WHOLE.
EXERCISE, WHILE DETACHED KINDS.
OF SECONDARY SUITES IN SUCH LAND USE WILL STAY AS A.
DISCRETIONARY USAGE.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: SO YOU WISHED TO ADD COMMA BUT MAY.
REQUIRE BUILDING AUTHORIZATION COMMA.
PRIOR TO THE WORD “” WHILE””? >> > > YEAH.
>> > > DO I HAVE A SECONDER?
>> > > THAT ' S THE VERY BEST I MAY DO ON– DO ON THE FLOORING OF.
COUNCIL, YOUR WORSHIP. THIS LITTLE BOOKLET, Ms.SLOAN, IF
YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO READ.
WEB PAGE 4, DOES SAY ADDITIONAL.
HOME UNITS, DEFINITION SECONDARY SUITES, BUILT AFTER.
DECEMBER 31st, 2006, MUST.
ADHERE TO THE ALBERTA STRUCTURE CODE. SO THE DETAILS THE CITY IS.
GIVING IS BASED ON THE POLICIES OF THE BUILDING, ALBERTA.
CONSTRUCTING CODE. NOTWITHSTANDING THE DISTRICT'' S FILE AND REGULATIONS. THIS DOES– THAT ' S WHY. I ' D LIKE IT, Mr. WATSON, TO PROMOTE IT AS A LITTLE BIT OF A. BESTSELLER IN THE NEXT WHILE,. IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO. NEVERTHELESS YOU NEED TO DO THAT.
MAIL IT TO EVERY HOME, IF. YOU IN UTILITY BILLS, I DON ' T KNOW WHAT DO YOU, TO OBTAIN THE. MESSAGE AROUND. >> THANKS, WORSHIP.
> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANKS,. FOR THE DOCUMENT, YOU TIN CALL ME “LITTLE BUDDY” ANY TIME YOU.
ON THE AMENDMENT, ANY. CONVERSATION ON THE 5E789, JUST.
WAVE. ALL RIGHT, THEN. ON THE MODIFICATION, ARE WE. AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? BROUGHT. BACK TO THE ACTIVITY AT HAND.ALDERMAN PINCOTT'. > > THANKS. WELL, I ' M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. AOEURPL GOING TO UNEQUIVOCALLY.
I DO HAVE TO SAY I DISCOVER IT. UNSATISFACTORY THAT WE ' RE.
TO– I ' M NOT GOING TO REFER TO IT AS. CONCESSION SINCE I DO CONCUR WITH CONCESSION AND SEARCHING FOR.
MOVE ONWARD, BUT THIS TO ME FEELS AS OPPOSED TO COMPROMISE,. AS WELL AS I THINKS MY DISAPPOINTMENT LIES IN A LOT OF THE.
CONVERSATION THAT HAS BEEN.
HAPPENING IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC AROUND THIS RELEASE FOR THE LAST FEW.
WEEKS. AND I BELIEVE THAT A GREAT DEAL OF, AS ALDERMAN JONES CALLED IT,.
NAME-CALLING, FALSE INFORMATION,.
MISCONCEPTION, COULD HAVE BEEN STAYED CLEAR OF IF WE HAD.
ACTUALLY GONE ABOUT DOING THIS.
PROPERLY.TALKING ABOUT WHAT
THIS SUGGESTS. CORRECTLY.
HAVING THE CONVERSATION AND ALSO RESPECTFUL WAY. I BELIEVE THAT THERE'' S BEEN, IN. A METHOD, TRYING TO ESTABLISH OUR CONSTITUENTS, OUR RESIDENTS,.
OUR NEIGHBOURS AS ADVERSARIES. IN THIS IS NOT OFFERED.
IT HAS ACTUALLY NOT OFFERED ANY INDIVIDUAL IN.
ATTEMPTING TO ACTUALLY RELOCATION.
I THINK– I DO HAVE TO SAY. THAT BOTH SIDES OF THE DEBATE
.
BOTH SIDES OF THE DISCUSSION. AROUND SECONDARY SUITES HAVE
.
IT'' S NOT. IT ' S NOT THE
SOLUTIONOPTION IT ' S CONCERNING SUSTAINING AREA, IT ' S REGARDING DEVELOPING.
IT IS NOT THE WONDER DRUG. SO FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN. PROMOTING THIS AS THE MAGIC BULLET FOR AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE. AND ALSO HOW DARE WE NOT ASSISTANCE. THIS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT EVERYONE HAS A LOCATION TO LIVE,. IT ' S NOT GOING TO PERFORM THAT. THEN ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE
ON THE OPPONENTS SIDE THAT HAVE
BEEN. PROMOTING THIS AS THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT. IS GOING TO LEAD TO THE DESTRUCTION OF AREA, IT ' S. NOT GOING TO PERFORM THAT EITHER. SECONDARY COLLECTION IS STILL GOING TO EXPENSE– STILL GOING TO.
THERE ' S NOT GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT RUSH TO HAVE THAT PUT IN. SUITES, WHERE THEY'' VE PUT IN,. I DON ' T KNOW, GENEROUS, 100, 10 A YEAR BECAUSE THEY MADE THEM.
LET'' S SAY WE ' RE WILDLY SUCCESSFUL IN CALGARY. WELL, SPLIT THAT OUT AMONGST 150 NEIGHBORHOODS. WE'' RE TALKING ABOUT– HELL,.
LET'' S SAY THEY ' RE ONLY GOING IN FIFTY PERCENT THE AREAS. WE ' RE TALKING ABOUT 7 IN A.
COMMUNITY.THAT ' S WHAT
WE ' RE TALKING.
THAT'' S NOT– ON AVERAGE. THAT'' S NOT DAMAGING A.
COMMUNITY.
IT'' S UNFORTUNATE. I THINK IT'' S DUE TO THE FACT THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY I HAVE TO SAY.
WE ACTUALLY HAVEN ' T HAD THE.
CONVERSATION.
I WAS SIMPLY AT SEM LAST WEEK. AS WELL AS I CHATTED TO A GREAT DEAL OF. INDIVIDUALS ABOUT SECONDARY SUITES, AND I NEED TO SAY THAT A WHOLE LOT'.
THE COUNTRY, A WHOLE LOT OF TIMES I GOT WHAT,'YOU HAVEN ' T DONE. IT ' S NOT AN CONCERN. IT ISN ' T AN PROBLEM.
IT WASN ' T AN PROBLEM. I WILL CERTAINLY SUPPORT SOME OF THESE.
I WON ' T ASSISTANCE ALL OF THE. POSSIBLE REFERRALS THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE BEFORE United States, BUT I HAVE.
TO SIMPLY CLAIM THAT I SUPPORT.
THEM– I SUSTAIN THIS NOT UNWILLINGLY BUT JUST AS–. EQUALLY AS THE PIECEMEAL TECHNIQUE.
IS JUST NOT THE METHOD TO PROGRESS FOR OUR CITY AND IT IS. DISAPPOINTING. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN PINCOTT.
ALDERMAN CARRA, YOU ' VE SPOKEN. ON THIS ALREADY.DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER PERSON QUESTION? >> OH, FOR THE NEXT ONE.
ALDERMAN POOTMANS? > > YES, THANKS, YOUR. PRAYER. I'ECHO A LOT OF ALDERMAN PINCOTT ' S REMARKS. I MEAN WE ALL FEELING TO SOME. EXTENT DISSATISFIED THAT THIS'HASN ' T BEEN THE IDEALISTIC AND ALSO.
UTOPIAN FULLY-INFORMED PUBLIC.
DISCUSSION. WHICH TO ME IS A MISFORTUNE. THE SEVERE FEELINGS ON BOTH.
SIDES FOR THE PAST THREE WEEKS HAVE BEEN REMARKABLE. OUR STAFF IN WARD 6 HAS PUT.
TOGETHER A CHECKLIST OF YES AS WELL AS NO CALLS AND ALSO E-MAILS.
150 NOs, 99 YESs, TRANSFORMED FROM.
THE ORIGINAL OPENING. THE ENERGY IS GOING TOWARDS.
THE YES BUT NONETHELESS STILL.
AT THIS FACTOR 3-2 AGAINST. THE COMPELLING INPUT THAT I.
GOT IS IN NEIGHBORHOOD.
DISCUSSIONS WHEN I'' M AT THE SKATING PARTIES OR BARBEQUES.
OR WHATEVER FOR THE PAST.
SEVERAL WEEKS. AND I BELIEVE THE FINEST WORD TO.
EXPLAIN THE FEELINGS IN WARD.
6 IS THAT THERE'' S BEEN UNEASINESS. I BELIEVE THERE ' S BEEN A REAL.
BOTHER WITH HOUSE WORTHS, BEHAVIOURAL ISSUES, OWNER.
TENANCY, CAR PARKING, SAFETY AND SECURITY. THE TRICK CONCERNS WE'' VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHICH I REALLY HOPE ARE.
ENSHRINED IN FINAL FILES. ARTICULATED IN THESE PROPOSALS ON THE TABLE TODAY, BUT I.
WILL BE SEEKING THOSE IN.
THE LAW MODIFICATIONS IN SOME WAY INCLUDED AS COMPONENT OF THE LAWS.
FOR THE CITY. I THINK GOING THIS ROUTE WITH R2 AND ALSO ALL THE OTHER LAND USE.
AREAS SPECIFIED I THINK.
IS An EXTREMELY SOFT FIRST STEP.I ' M UNCERTAIN IT REVEALS THE.
POLITICAL WILL THAT PROBABLY.
THE CITY COULD BE, BUT I ASSUME IS SOMETHING THAT WARD 6 WOULD.
I ASSUME BE AMENABLE AS WELL AS I LOOK.
ONWARD TO ANALYSIS THE BYLAW CHANGE. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS, I'' M
NOT. IF NOW IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS, sure.
REGARDING THE PROCEDURE AS IT.
FOCUSES ON COMING UP WITH THIS LAW CHANGE. WILL IT BE GOING THROUGH CPC? I THINK I POSE THAT HAD INQUIRY. IS THAT WHAT WILL OCCUR? WILL CERTAINLY IT THEN COME TO COUNCIL AS PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING,.
Mr.WATSON? >
> BE ALL AMENDMENTS OF THE LAND USE LAW COME THROUGH. CALGARY PLANNING COMPENSATION. AS WELL AS COME FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AT CITY COUNCIL. > > IT WILL CERTAINLY BE AN OPPORTUNITY.
>> FOR LIFE PUBLIC INPUT THEN? > > THAT ' S CORRECT. > > THAT WILL CERTAINLY
>> BE A FULSOME DEBATE.
>> THANK YOU. AS OPPOSED TO A LOT TIME FOR A FULSOME DEBATE. ON THAT KEEP IN MIND, YOUR PRAISE,. THANKS SIGNIFICANTLY.
> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: >> ANYBODY. ELSE ON NUMBER 1 PRIOR TO I PHONE CALL.
ON ALDERMAN CHABOT TO SHUT? YOU ' RE RIGHT; PARTICIPANTS OF COUNCIL THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT DEAL.
IT'' S BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF ARGUMENT ON THIS CONCERN FOR LOTS, LOTS OF. NOT JUST FOR THE LAST COUPLE, THREE MONTHS.
GROWTH PLAN WHICH SPEAKS ABOUT CONCENTRATIONS AND ALSO SAYS.
IN A DELICATE MANNER. IN CHOSE PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT AS WELL AS NOTABLE ADVANCEMENTS. BLANKET METHOD I DON'' T THINK. FOLLOWS THE METROPOLITAN ADVANCEMENT PLAN.
BECAUSE IT DOESN'' T CONCENTRATE.
SURGE IN POSITION THAT IS MAKE GOOD SENSE. THIS AT LEAST IS.
THERE'' S A SPECIFIC SENSE OF ASSUMPTION THAT EVENTUALLY.
DISCRETIONARY TO PERMITTED USE,. ASSISTS IN THAT POSSIBILITY.
POSSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE TO ESTABLISH SECONDARY SUITES IN.
THOSE AREAS IN WHICH A MINIMUM OF AT.
SOME POINT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SAY YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT, I.
BOUGHT IN THIS FIELD WITH THE.
ASSUMPTION THAT THIS MAY HAPPEN. THIS IS NOT GOING TO MAKE ONE.
SINGLE PROHIBITED COLLECTION LEGAL. NOT ONE. HOWEVER, IT WILL SUPPLY AN.
BOOSTED CHANCE. WE HEARD THE NUMBERS 116.000,.
BECAUSE WE'' VE EXCLUDED R1.
N AND RC 1 N IT ACTUALLY MINIMIZES THE NUMBER TO.
SEVERAL OF 6,800 OR SOMETHING. THEN AGAIN THAT ALSO DOES NOT CONSIST OF THE MCG, MCL, MC 2,.
MHL, MH 1, 2, AND 3, AND I.
DON'' T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER CONSTITUTES BUT I CAN INFORM YOU.
THE OTHER ONES REPRESENT ABOUT.
66.800 EXTRA RESIDENCES OR ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES THAT.
WILL RELOCATE FROM DISCRETIONARY.
OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO VOICE THEIR OPINION ON THIS. IT DOESN ' T REALLY MODIFICATION. IT DOESN ' T DEVELOP AN ONEROUS.
PROCESS FOR SOMEBODY SHOULD.
THEY INTEND TO LOOK FOR A SECONDARY SUITE '' CAUSE
WITH. DISCRETIONARY INDIVIDUALS CANISTER. THINGS TO IT, SEND THEIR COMMENTS TO THE AUTHORITY, AND ALSO.
SUBSEQUENTLY IF THE AUTHORITY.
ACCEPTS IT THEY CANISTER STILL DATA AN CHARM AND GO IN FRONT.
OF COMMUNITY ADVANCEMENT.
CHARM BOARD.THE PRICE FOR GROWTH. THAN A BUILDING AUTHORIZATION.
COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN DESIGNED.
ESPECIALLY TO ACCOMMODATE A GREATER THICKNESS GROWTH.
THAN WHAT WAS PURELY.
ACCEPTED BASED ON THE THICKNESS BY THE INCORPORATION OF RC 1 S. AGAIN, SEVERAL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
GETTING THOSE HOMES MAY NOT INTEND TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND PAY THE ADDED PRICES.
RELATED TO An ADVANCEMENT AUTHORIZATION. THIS IS SAVING PEOPLE CASH. IT'' S PROVIDING INCREASED OPPORTUNITY.
TPHOEFRDZ RC 1 AS WELL AS R 15 AND ALSO. THE REASON'THAT I WASN ' T PREPARED TO MOVE THE REMAINDER OF. THE AMENDMENTS AND ALSO WHY I.
INTENDED TO RELOCATE SIMPLY THIS IS ONCE AGAIN IN MAINTAINING WITH THE MDP.
WHICH SPEAKS ABOUT SENSITIVE.
CONCENTRATION, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, OPPORTUNITY FOR.
INDIVIDUALS TO GIVE INPUT ONTO.
WHAT THEY WISH TO SEE THEIR AREA DEVELOP OUT.
AS. WHAT ARE THE INFRASTRUCTURE PRICES CONNECTED WITH.
BOOSTED STRENGTH? MUCH OF THE NEW COMMUNITIES PARTICULARLY HAD A SPECIFIC.
DENSITY THAT WAS VISUALIZED. if WE BEGINNING INCREASING BY MERIT OF A BLANKET AUTHORIZATION.
THIS MAY BE A DEMAND TO RISE.
OUR ROAD FACILITIES, EVEN MORE AUTHORITIES, MORE FIRE PROTECTION,.
MORE RECREATIONAL CENTERS. THE LIST GOES ON.WHERE DO WE DO A PRICE.
HEALING? THERE IS NO DEVICE USING LAND USE BYLAW TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
WITHOUT ENFORCING ADDITIONAL.
LEVIS SPECIFICALLY ON SECONDARY SUITES. THAT'' S WHY THIS IS SOMETHING. THAT IS EXPECTED, IT ' S NOT OUT OF CONTEXT, IT'' S IN RETAINING.
WITH THE MD. P, IT ' S NOT A CURE ALL BUT IS OFFERING ADDITIONAL.
CHANCE FOR PROVIDING SOME.
BUDGET FRIENDLY REAL ESTATE WITHOUT NEGATIVELY AFFECTING SOME OF.
THE AREA. TO SUGGEST THAT THIS MAY NOT HAVE A DOWNSIDE INFLUENCE ON THE.
COMMUNITY I WOULD ARGUE.
OTHERWISE. SOME INDIVIDUALS SAY THAT THEY.
MAY– THIS IS GOING TO OPEN.
IF WE DO A BLANKET AUTHORIZATION AND ALSO SOME SAY THAT, the DOORS.
CHECK OUT VARIOUS OTHER CITIES. WHAT HAS EXPERIENCE BEEN IN OTHER CITIES IN ONLY 200.
APPLICATIONS.
200 APPLICATIONS IN EDMONTON. 200 LAWFUL APPLICATIONS. PRESENT LIP WE UNDERSTAND THERE'' S. ANYWHERE FROM 50.000 ON UP OF ILLEGAL SECONDARY SUITES ON.
THE BASIS OF THAT THEY ARE.
ILLEGAL. , if WE WERE TO MAKE A.
TRANSITION CHANGE NOT PERMITTED.
.
TO PERMITTED, THERE WOULD BE A SENSE OF ASSUMPTION THAT THEY.
ARE ALLOWED. NOT WHETHER THEY'' RE PERMITTED OR NOT PERMITTED OR. DISCRETIONARY.
ALLOWED.SO HOW MANY OTHER ILLEGAL.
COLLECTIONS DO WE THINK WILL.
CREATE? THE AMOUNT OF HAVE CREATED IN.
VARIOUS OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS? WE DON'' T KNOW THAT. ALL'THEY ' VE GIVEN United States IS HOW. LOTS ILLEGAL APPLICATIONS.
THERE'' S BEEN. I ' M NOT PREPARED TO MOVE. ONWARD ON A COVERING AUTHORIZATION. I BELIEVE THIS GOES TO LEAST A SOFT TECHNIQUES AS WELL AS I ASSUME WE.
WE WERE NOT ANY OTHER CITY. AS WELL AS I ASSUME WE DEMAND TO TAKE A DISTINCT APPROACH. AND I ASSUME THIS IS THE FINEST.
MECHANISM MOVING ON SO I HOPE YOU'' LL ASSISTANCE THIS. > >> MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANKS.
REALLY MUCH, ALDERMAN CHABOT.SO ON THIS REFERRAL, ARE. > > THANK YOU. CURRENTLY WE OBTAIN INTO THE REAL.
DEBATE. AS WELL AS AS PREFERENCE TO THE REAL DISPUTE I'' D LIKE TO STATE THAT. I DON ' T THINK ANYONE HAS PLEAD. THE ASSERTION THAT SECONDARY SUITES ARE THE RESPONSE TO.
ECONOMICAL REAL ESTATE. I ASSUME EVERYONE'' S MADE THE DEBATE THAT THEY ARE AN.
IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THE. REMEDY. I BEGAN COMMUNICATING WITH.
MY COMMUNITIES IN WARD 9 QUITE.
SOME TIME BACK LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'' S. COMING DOWN THE PIKE. AS WELL AS THAT THE CONCERN IS FRAUGHT BECAUSE IT'' S REALLY A TWO-PART.
QUESTION. ON THE FIRST SIDE IT'' S A RIGHT-MINDED PROBLEM. AS WELL AS I THINK THE PRINCIPLED. CONCERNS ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY ON THE SIDE OF. THE ANGELS.
SECONDARY SUITES ARE A CRITICAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE. CITY OF CALGARY IN TERMS OF. AFFORDABLE MOUSING– REAL ESTATE, AND ALSO WE ' RE TALKING ABOUT FOR. TRAINEES, FOR MUSICIANS, WE ' RE. SPEAKING ABOUT FOR WORKERS, WE'' RE TALKING ABOUT FOR.
SENIORS AND FOR ALLOWING. SENIORS TO'REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES.
IT ' S NOT A PANACEA, IT'' S NOT THE ONLY REMEDY, BUT
IT ' S. PART OF THE SOLUTIONREMEDY IT'' S COMPONENT OF THE CITY ' S DEDICATION TO COMPLETE.
COMMUNITIES. IT'' S COMPONENT OF THE CITY'' S REQUIRED TO BE FINANCIALLY COMPETITIVE,.
PARTICULARLY AS WE COME OUT OF A.
RECESSION. AS WELL AS IT'' S AN EXPRESSION OF.
FAVORABLE HOME RIGHTS AS.
OPPOSED TO DOWNSIDE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY CIVIL LIBERTIES WHICH IS ONE OF THE FEW.
ARGUMENTS THAT'' S BEING MADE ON.
THE OTHER SIDE AT THE PRINCIPAL DEGREE. I RECOMMEND MY COMMUNITIES.
REVIEWED THE MAYOR'' S PLATFORM. I SENT THEM LINKS.
AS WELL AS BEGINNING HAVING A REAL. LETTERS, I DESIRED YOU TO TALK TO.
BECAUSE THE PRINCIPLES ARE.
UNDENIABLY ON THE SIDE OF THE ANGEL. THERE'' S ANOTHER PERSON SIDE TO THIS. EQUATION ALSO, WHICH RELATES TO THE TECHNICAL. DIFFICULTIES SURROUNDING.
SECONDARY SUITES.THAT IS An EXTREMELY ESSENTIAL BUT A.
SECONDARY ISSUE. A SEPARATE ISSUE. AND THE TECHNOLOGICAL NEEDS.
HAVE TO DO WITH PROBLEMS WITH.
OUR LAND USE LAW. THEY INVOLVE ISSUES.
WITH OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD.
INTENDING PROCEDURES. THEY HAVE TO DO WITH TROUBLES.
WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT AUTHORIZATIONS.
PROCEDURES AND OUR GROWTH APPEALS PROCESSES WHERE A LOT.
OF THESE INVESTIGATIONARY.
ISSUES ARE DESTINED TO END UP. THEY PERTAIN TO OUR.
ENFORCEMENT TECHNIQUES, AND ALSO.
THEY RELATE TO OUR CAPABILITY TO HAVE TKPHRUPBS WITH.
REGARDS TO THE REFORM OF.
RURAL STRUCTURE AS WELL AS FIRE AND ALSO SAFETY AND SECURITY CODES. WE'' RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO. ADDRESS THOSE TECHNOLOGICAL CONCERNS IN ANY TYPE OF MEANINGFUL MEANS.
UNLESS WE MAKE A STRONG.
DECLARATION REGARDING THE FIRST PROPOSAL WHICH IS THE.
RIGHT-MINDED SIDE OF THE.
EQUATION.HAVING MADE THAT ARGUMENT TO. MY COMMUNITIES– I DON ' T KNOW. WHAT YOU ' RE PHRASE TO ME. I ' M IN THE CENTER OF TALKING. THANKS. I'' M ABOUT TO MAKE An ACTIVITY, AND ALSO THIS IS MY OVERTURE TO.
> >'IT ' S A PREAMBLE,'THAT ' S.. WITH MY AREAS, I'' VE. GOTTEN 46 THOUGHTFUL LETTERS.
4 UNDECIDED, AND ALSO I'' VE. RECEIVED ANOTHER PERSON 35 IN FAVOUR FROM THE CITY AT LARGE AND ALSO 27.
AGAINST FROM THE CITY AT.
LARGE. BUT IT BOILS DOWN TO THE.
TECHNICAL RECOMMENDATION THAT WE.
NEED TO BE ABLE TO FIX THIS ISSUE AND WE'' RE NOT SETTING.
OURSELVES INTO A SETTING.
WHERE WE CONTAINER RESOLVE IT.HAVING CLAIMED THAT, I WOULD HIKE. TO MOVE RECOMMENDATION NUMBER. 5, WHICH DESCRIBES 2011, 11 BACK TO ADMINISTRATION FOR. ADDITIONAL WORK TO ANALYZE THE. INQUIRY OF ALLOWING SECONDARY SUITES AS A LEGAL USAGE IN ALL.
LAND USAGE DISTRICTS WITH.
CERTAIN FACTOR TO CONSIDER TO, AND THESE ARE THE TECHNICAL CONCERNS.
THAT ARE MAJOR BARRIERS, THE.
FEASIBILITY OF A COMPANY PERMIT SYSTEM FOR SECONDARY.
COLLECTIONS TO REGULATE OWNER.
OCCUPATION ALONG WITH ENFORCE AREA SPECIFICATIONS, AS WELL AS.
B, THE ADVANCEMENT OF A NEW.
ENFORCEMENT APPROACH TO CONCENTRATE ON SUITES THAT ARE HARMFUL OR.
OTHERWISE NOT COMPLIANT. THE FACT IS WE HAVE A HUGE UNDERGROUND MARKET IN SUITES THAT IS.
A FACT. THESE PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH SAFETY ISSUES, AND ALSO THEY'' RE. LIVING WITH SOCIAL JUSTICE.
CONCERNS, AND ALSO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. AND SO I ASSUME NUMBER 5 MAKES.
THAT MOTION– PUTS US ON THE RIGHT COURSE AS WELL AS IS A STRONG.
ACTION AS WELL AS I MOTIVATE COUNCIL.
TO SUPPORT ACTIVITY 5.
AND IF YOU PUT ON'' T, PLEASE.
EXPLAIN TO ME FROM THE. PRINCIPLED SIDE AS WELL AS FROM THE TECHNICAL SIDE WHY YOU'' RE
>> NOT. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: MANY THANKS,. ALDERMAN HODGES.
>> EFFECTIVELY. ALDERMAN PINCOTT. > > MANY THANKS, YOUR PRAISE. WELL, I ' M GOING TO >> RECOMMEND AN.
>> AMENDMENT TO THE MOVEMENT, AND. THAT'IS TO ERASE– > >( INAUDIBLE). > > WHY NOT? > > IT ' S A REFERRAL MOVEMENT. THAT ' S WHY HE SAID IT>>. INDIVIDUALLY FROM THE OTHERS.
YOU TIN ONLY CHANGE IT REGARDING TIME.
> > THEN I WILL ELECT AGAINST.
THIS.IF IT DID CONTAIN JUST B,. AROUND ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE. THAT REALLY IS JUST ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ' VE HEARD ABOUT
. THAT I ' VE CERTAINLY LEARNT THROUGH. A LOT OF RESIDENTS AS OK, SO YOU MAKE THIS LEGAL. EVERYWHERE. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO APPLY IT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO.
IMPOSE– HOW ARE WE GOING TO.
SEE TO IT? I TOTALLY SUPPORT ACTUALLY.
LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN DO.
ENFORCEMENT AROUND COMPLIANCE AND NON-COMPLIANCE. AS TO (A) AND THE REASON I.
WILL CERTAINLY NOT SUPPORT THIS REFERENCE IS AS A RESULT OF (A). I WEAR'' T SEE THE POINT OF. MAKING IT An ALLOWED USE, REMOVING THE DEVELOPMENT.
AUTHORIZATION PROCESS, AND ALSO AFTER THAT.
ACTUALLY ADDING A SERVICE CERTIFICATE PROCEDURE ON TOP OF IT. I DO NOT SEE THE POINT. I WAS SAYING TO THAT 85-YEAR-OLD GRANDMOTHER THAT.
WANTS TO HAVE A SECONDARY.
SUITE IN HER RESIDENCE SO SOMEONE WILL CERTAINLY TRIM THE GRASS AND ALSO CLEAN.
THE WALKWAY OF SNOW, AS WELL AS OH,.
INCIDENTALLY, YOU NEED TO HAVE A BUSINESS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE An ORGANIZATION.
CERTIFICATE TO PERFORM THIS.I DON'' T THINK IT ' S AN. SUITABLE PATH TO DROP. I ASSUME REPLACING ONE LICENSE PROCESS WITH A LICENSING.
PROCEDURE IS– DOESN'' T CUT RED. I PUT ON ' T WANT TO HAVE TO TURN.
RIGHT INTO A COMPANY OWNER. ON THAT MOTION BECAUSE IT.
HAS BEEN RELOCATED AND I CAN'' T. AMEND IT, I CAN ' T AMEND A RECOMMENDATION, ALTHOUGH I DO SEE.
THE ORANGE BOOK IS OUT.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: YOU CANISTER AMEND A RECOMMENDATION BUT WE'' RE.
TRYING TO DETERMINE IF WE CAN.
>> CALL THEM SEPARATELY.
> > OKAY F THEY CONTAINER BE CALLED.
SEPARATELY, I WILL CERTAINLY SUPPORT( B),. IF THEY CONTAINER BE CALLED INDIVIDUALLY I WOULD ASK THAT.
WOULD. OTHERWISE– >> > > I SHOULD EXPLAIN FOR.
EXPLANATION, ALDERMAN.
PINCOTT, WHILE THAT WAS BEAUTIFULLY WELL SPOKEN, AS.
ALWAYS, (A) IN FACT STATES GO.
EXAMINE IF THAT'' S GOING TO WORK, AND ALSO I JUST WISHED TO BE.
CLEAR THAT THAT'' S NOT WHAT YOU. SAID. > > THAT ' S PENALTY. I WEAR'' T– THEN I WOULDN'' T. LIKE TO NOT HAVE United States WASTE ADMINISTRATION MONEY AND TIME.
CHECKING OUT SOMETHING WHICH.
I BELIEVE IS TOTALLY IMPROPER.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI:.
MUCH BETTER. THANK YOU. WE'' RE STILL LOOKING ON WHETHER.
WE CONTAINER CALL THEM SEPARATELY BUT ALDERMAN CHABOT.
>> > > WELL, THANK
YOU, YOUR. WORSHIP, AS WELL AS ALDERMAN PINCOTT FOR PRODUCTION THAT EXTREMELY.
ENTHUSIASTIC APPEAL TO NOT TIE IT.
TO OWNER OCCUPANCY. FOR ME, (B) IS EQUALLY AS.
CHALLENGING OTHERWISE MUCH MORE.
TESTING. AND THE FACTOR I SAY THAT IS.
AS A RESULT OF THE NUMBER OF.
DANGEROUS SUITES THAT I'' VE HAD TO HANDLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND.
THE CHALLENGE THAT ENFORCEMENT.
POLICEMAN NEEDS TO ATTEMPT AS WELL AS BRING THOSE INTO CONFORMITY. THEIR INABILITY TO ENTER THE.
PROPERTIES, THE COURTS NOT UPHOLDING THE DEMAND TO GO INTO.
INTO THOSE PROPERTIES. THIS ISN'' T A CITY OF CALGARY CONCERN. THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL.
WHAT IT IS THAT WE '
VE TRIED ATTEMPTED DO. I ' VE HAD BOTH. SECONDARY SUITES NEXT DOOR TO.
OUR ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE BEEN IN TRYING TO GET IN THE. DOOR AND ALSO HOW THEY ' VE MADE.
THEIR WAY INTO THE DOOR, IN THEIR POINT OF VIEW, UNLIKE. WHAT IS ETHICAL.
AND YET I LEARN THROUGH THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT THAT.
IS THEIR ONLY CHANCE TO.
BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE, OTHERWISE IT'' S VIRTUALLY. DIFFICULT. B, I TIN'' T SEE HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY ALTER IT WITHOUT.
ALTERING OUR COURTS SYSTEM,.
CHANGING RURAL LEGISLATION, AND FEDERAL.
REGULATIONS TO PROMOTE THAT.
OR OFFER United States AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY GO INTO THESE SUITES.
AND ALSO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE.
SHORTAGES ARE AND ATTEMPT AS WELL AS REMEDY THEM. WE JUST DON'' T HAVE THE DEVICES.
TO DO IT.NOR DO WE HAVE THE POLICEMANS. OUR OFFICERS HAVE SUCH A HUGE.
STOCKPILE ON JUST A COMPLAINT BASIS VARIETY OF ILLEGAL SUITES.
THAT EXIST THAT THEY CONTAINER'' T. STAY ON TOP OF THE PRESENT WORKLOAD. I CAN'' T SEE HOW THIS CAN.
IN FACT FUNCTION. SO I'' M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT.
IT.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN CHABOT.
IT ' S REGARDING SUPPORTING COMMUNITY, IT ' S REGARDING DEVELOPING. LET'' S SAY WE ' RE WILDLY SUCCESSFUL IN CALGARY. IT ' S NOT A CURE ALL, IT'' S NOT THE ONLY REMEDY, BUT
IT ' S. PART COMPONENT THE SOLUTION. IT'' S COMPONENT OF THE CITY ' S DEDICATION TO COMPLETE.
CERTIFICATE TO DO THIS.I DON'' T THINK IT ' S AN.ALDERMAN LOWE?
>> > > YOUR PRAYER, ALDERMAN PINCOTT SUMMED UP THE
TROUBLE I HAVE WITH An EXTREMELY–
EFFECTIVELY AND I CONCUR WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH HIM. FURTHER, IF IT WAS FEASIBLE TO
AMEND THE BODY OF NUMBER 5 TO SAY– REFER MANAGEMENT
BACK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
INCLUDING CONSULTATION WITH R1 AS WELL AS RC 1 COMMUNITIES, I MIGHT
HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING WITH
IT.BECAUSE IT APPEARS
TO ME THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY
, ALDERMAN CARRA, TO ADVANCEMENT THE PRINCIPLE, AS YOU CALL IT, IF IT IN FACT, debate AND ALSO SEE EXCEEDS HOW INDIVIDUALS FEEL ABOUT RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY CIVIL LIBERTIES AS A CONCEPT. SO RECOGNIZING THAT I CAN ' T. AMEND THIS, I CAN'' T SUPPORT IT BASICALLY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT. CONSIST OF THE VERY PEOPLE WHO. ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED, THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE SINGLE. BIGGEST INVESTMENT OF THEIR. LIVES MOST LIKELY, RESEARCHED IT THOROUGHLY, AND ALSO CHOSE TO LIVE. IN AN R1 OR RC 1 AREA. WITH AN ASSUMPTION THAT THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD NOT CHANGE AT. LEAST WITHOUT THEIR BEING.
CONSULTED. THEY MAY NOT AGREE,
AND ALSO I ' LL. USE ALDERMAN FARRELL ' S. EXPERIENCE IN BRENTWOOD.
SOME STUNNING RESULTS OUT OF. THAT. CRITICS ALL OVER THE PLACE. YOU CONSULT AND ALSO YOU. ATTAIN AT THE END OF THE DAY
. SOMETHING. > > FACTOR OF ORDER.
IF ALDERMAN
>> LOWE WOULD BE. READY TO FIND THE WAY TO INSERT THAT 3 WORDS OR.
MUCH LESS I'' D BE
DELIGHTED TO INCLUDE. >> IT AS AN MODIFICATION.
> > THE FACT IS, ALDERMAN CARRA,.
THE'PROCEDURAL BYLAW SAYS I. CAN ' T DO THIS. ALDERMAN PINCOTT COULDN ' T DO.
>> HIS. THE ONLY THING I TIN CHANGE IS THE TIME. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: WE CONTAINER'.
>> TAKE THEM INDEPENDENTLY; HOWEVER, WE–.
> > WE CAN ' T INCLUDE 3. WORDS? > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: NOT IN.
A REFERENCE MOTION.
NONETHELESS, IF YOU AS WELL AS THE SECONDER, ALDERMAN HODGES,. INTENDED TO TAKE OUT YOUR ACTIVITY. AND WE HAD UNANIMOUS AUTHORIZATION OF ALL THE PARTICIPANTS EXISTING>,. YOU COULD PUT A DIFFERENT. ACTIVITY. > > HE INTENDS TO CONSIST OF. >> AREA EXAMINATION.
I ' D MORE THAN HAPPY TO PERFORM THAT. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI:.
ALDERMAN HODGES? >> ARE WE ACCEPTED ALLOW ALDERMAN CARRA TO WITHDRAW. THIS MOVEMENT? ANY OPPOSED? > > WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: NEVER. MIND.
>> HAS TO >> REMAIN ON THE TABLE. ALDERMAN CHABOT IS OPPOSED. > > WHY? > > FINE. IT STRAYS ON THE TABLE.
MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE CAN WE ADDRESS ALDERMAN.>> PINCOTT ' S PROBLEM AT THE SAME.
TIME. >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: YES,. WE CANISTER BALLOT ON THEM. SEPARATELY. > > BUT OBVIOUSLY WE CONTAINER NOT. ALDERMAN CHABOT HAS ACTUALLY STATED NO.
THAT LEAVES ME, AND I WOULD SUGGEST ANY PERSON THAT ' S. INTERESTED IN RESPECTING THE. RC 1 RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND R1 AND ALSO RC 1
RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY PROPRIETORS, NO.
CHOICE, BUT NOT TO. ASSISTANCE IT, SIMILAR TO– ONCE THAT TAKES PLACE, YOUR PRAISE,.
SOMEBODY CONTAINER OBTAIN UP ON THEIR. HIND LEGS AND ALSO RE (INDISCERNIBLE) THE ACTIVITY.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: IF.
> > IF YOU ' LL ALLOW THIS AS
. DEBATE OR NOT, YOUR PRAISE, SO I'' LL DELAY FOR YOU TO STATE. IN ALL THE YEARS OF THE SDAB.
ALLURES AS WELL AS REVIEWING POINTS WITH STAFF IN THE PLANNING.
DEPARTMENT, THE BYLAW.
ENFORCEMENTS DIVISION, I'' VE NOT ENCOUNTER A SITUATION, AND PERHAPS.
Ms.SLOAN HAS
, IN WHICH A LAW.
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, THOUGH HE WAS REFUSED ENTRANCE, EVENTUALLY.
COULDN'' T IN REALITY ACHIEVE ENTRANCE.
TO A BUILDING BASED ON A COMPLAINT SHE WAS FOLLOWING UP.
ON. SEEMS TO ME SINCE THE EIGHTIES THE CITY HAS HAD THE.
REGULATIONS AS WELL AS THE MGA, COMPONENT.
17 OF THE MGA OF THE PREPARING AREA, TO OBTAIN ACCESSIBILITY,.
WHETHER BY WAYS OF COURT.
ORDER OR PROPERTY OWNER, HOMEOWNER WILLINGLY CONCURRING TO.
ALLOW AN EVALUATION. WHICH APPEARS TO ME THAT'' S THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS, UNLESS. THERE ' S BEEN SOME RADICAL. ALTER IN THE LAST FEW HOURS. >> > > YOUR PRAISE, IT ' S POSSIBLE. FOR THE EXAMINERS TO GO INTO A.
BUILDING PROVIDED THAT THE OWNER LOCAL PERMISSIONS TO.
THEIR ENTRANCE. NEVERTHELESS, IF THEY DO NOT OBTAIN THE APPROVAL, THEN THERE IS AN.
CAPABILITY UNDER THE MUNICIPAL.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACT TO MAKE AN APPLICATION TO THE COURT OF.
QUEEN'' S BENCH FOR AN ACCESS.
ORDER NONETHELESS THERE'' S A COST FOR A DECLARING FEE IN EXCESS OF.
$ 200, THIS IS A NEED FOR STAFF.
RESOURCES TO ACTUALLY PREPARE AN AFFIDAVIT IN ORIGINATING.
NOTIFICATION, IT CANISTER BE OPPOSED. MY EXPERIENCE WITH THEM, I HAVE DONE SOME, IS THEY ARE.
RATHER UNCOMPLICATED, BUT.
YOU NEVER EVER CONTAINER PREDICT WHAT WILL CERTAINLY GET HERE AT THE COURT'' S. FRONT DOOR. > > THAT ' S WHAT I DESIRED TO CLEAR UP, YOUR WORSHIP.
AS FAR AS I RECOGNIZE THERE''
S AN. AND ALSO OF PROGRAM IT'' S BEFORE A COURT AND ALSO YOU ' RE
NOT. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANK.
YOU, ALDERMAN HODGES.ALDERMAN FARRELL
. > > MANY THANKS.
>> WELL, I WILL SUPPORT REFERENCE WITH HESITATION. I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A.
ABSENCE OF QUALITY BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ON THE DIFFERENCE.
IN BETWEEN A POORLY-MAINTAINED.
PROHIBITED SUITE THAT IS CREATING MAYHEM IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND.
WHAT WE'' RE RECOMMENDING WHICH.
IS A SECONDARY COLLECTION. A VERY VARIOUS PET. AND ALSO UNTIL WE CANISTER SOMEHOW.
EXPLAIN TO CALGARIANS THE DISTINCTION AS WELL AS HOW WE WILL.
HANDLE THE DISTINCTION, I THINK.
WE'' LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. WE'' VE HAD THIS DEBATE I BELIEVE. GIVEN THAT I OBTAINED CHOSEN. — AND I DO HOPE THAT
. MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
CONTAINER FIND SOME OPTION, SOME MEANINGFUL SOLUTIONS, TO BARGAIN.
WITH ITEM B. WHICH IS HANDLE THE HARMFUL NON-COMPLIANT, AND ALSO I BELIEVE WE.
REQUIRED TO USE SOME TEETH IN THE.
BYLAW. I KNOW THE BYLAWS EXIST, BUT.
PERHAPS IT'' S THE UNWILLINGNESS.
THAT WE'' VE HAD TO CLEAN THESE POSITIONS UP BECAUSE THEY'' RE
THE. ONLY REMEDY TO A LOT OF. COUNCIL, I ADVISE EVERY ONE
.
FIRE– FORGIVE ME. AND ALSO TELL HIM WE SHOULDN'' T BE ADDRESSING THIS CONCERN.
WE NECESSITY ADDRESS THIS CONCERN IF. WE CONTAINER SEARCH IN THE MIRROR IN THE EVENING.
KNOW AS ALDERMAN PINCOTT SAID. THIS IS NOT A REMEDY BUT IF MY RESEARCH FOR THE
BOARD. TO END HOMELESSNESS, WE LOOKED. AT ROSE CITY, EDMONTON, TORONTO, VANCOUVER, VICTORIA, AND EACH.
OF THEM TOOK A LOOK AT United States WITH SORT.
OF SPACE DEALS WITH GOING, OF PROGRAM YOU DO THIS. THIS IS A NO BRAINER. IN THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CITIES IT OFFERED 10% OF THE HOUSING,.
BUDGET FRIENDLY HOUSING, OPTION. THAT'' S 10% OF THE REAL ESTATE SOLUTION WITHOUT
A PUBLIC. AID. NO, IT'' S NOT A CURE ALL, BUT IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. AND THEY WERE JUST INCLUDING.
THE PEOPLE THAT WERE BEING ASSISTED, THE RENTERS.
BEING ASSISTED, NOT.
THE MORTGAGE HELPER FOR YOUNG HOUSEHOLDS AND ALSO THE ELDERS THAT.
WERE ABLE TO REMAIN IN THEIR.
HOUSES. WE HAVE COMMUNITIES IN R1 THAT.
HAVE THE MOST AFFORDABLE POPULATION IN.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN AGING POPULATION OR, THEIR BACKGROUND.
HOUSEHOLD DIMENSION IS LOWER SO ANY.
DISCUSSION THAT THIS IS GOING TO PUT A PROBLEM ON OUR WATER.
OR DRAIN OR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS.
HONESTLY LAUGHABLE.IT ' S UNDETECTABLE DENSITY,. COUNCIL, AND ALSO IT IS SOMETHING I.
BELIEVE THAT WE AT SOME FACTOR IN TIME HAVE TO GET OUR HEADS.
AROUND. SO I'' LL SUPPORT THIS SIMPLY BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'' T. HAVE THE NUMBERS TO GO.
ONWARD. AND I THINK THAT SOME OF THIS.
FUNCTION MAY AID OBTAIN SOME PEOPLE.
ONSIDE WHO HAVE A CONCERN OF WHAT THIS WILL CERTAINLY DO TO THEIR.
NEIGHBORHOOD. MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION, NOT SIMPLY A HOLD-UP, PLEASE, COUNCIL.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: MANY THANKS,.
ALDERMAN FARRELL. > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER.
I'' VE HAD HAVE BEEN AT SOME LEVEL'THERE ' S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF.
FALSE INFORMATION, AS ALDERMAN. HODGES AIMED OUT ON THE PROCESS PARTICULARLY. AND I DO THINK THAT WE REQUIREMENT TO. DO– WE NEED SOME EVEN MORE TIME TO PERFORM A BETTER WORK WITH.
RESPECT TO INFORMING PEOPLE.
WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS.I WAS PART OF THE ADVANCEMENT. OF THE TEN-YEAR STRATEGY TO END.
HOMELESSNESS. I DID OFFER ON A BELOW BOARD,.
AS WELL AS THIS COMPREHENSIVE ZONING WAS.
PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MADE. AS WELL AS I HAVE TO SAY THIS WAS.
COMPONENT OF A LARGE CHALLENGE. THERE WAS LOTS PIECES TO IT. THIS IS ONE SMALL PIECE IN A.
VERY LARGE PROBLEM. IT IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE.
PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITH.
REAL ESTATE AS WELL AS HOMELESSNESS. AND ALSO I WOULD DANGER A GUESS.
THAT EXTREMELY FEW PEOPLE WOULD.
ACTUALLY MOVE ON. FOR A NUMBER OF THE EXISTING.
ILLEGAL SUITES THEY CONTAINER''
T BE. MADE LEGAL FOR REASONS OF THE STRUCTURE
OF THE RESIDENCE OR.
COSTS RELATED, AND I BELIEVE. THAT OUR ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE THAT ARE.
TRANSITIONING IN THEIR LIFE,.
WHO ARE OBTAINING OLDER AND ALSO WANT SOMEONE TO COPE WITH THEM IN.
THE BASEMENT SINCE THEY'' RE. ENDING UP BEING EVEN MORE INFIRM OR BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUIRING SOME.
SUPPORT IN OTHER WAYS, I ASSUME.
THAT'' S VITAL AND ALSO I BELIEVE– SO IT TAKES CARE OF. FINANCIAL CONCERNS, IT DEALS.
WITH– ANOTHER INSTANCE IS SOMEBODY THAT GETS DIVORCED, IT.
PERMITS THE HOUSEHOLD TO REMAIN IN.
THE HOME IF THEY CONTAINER RENTAL FEE OUT THE CELLAR. AND WE DO HAVE THE ENTIRE EMPTY BEDROOM THING.
SQUARE VIDEOS OF YOUR HOUSES THAT WE HAVE THAT PERMITS US TO.
USE OUR FRAMEWORK EVEN MORE.
EFFECTIVELY, I AM A LITTLE– I AM GREATER THAN A LITTLE.
CONCERNED REGARDING THE WHOLE.
NOTION OF An ORGANIZATION CERTIFICATE, BUT I WILL SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
BECAUSE I DO NOT.
I THINK THAT– AND IT''
S AN. I THINK WE DEMAND TO BARGAIN.
WITH THE FEARS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED IN A LOT OF THE.
EMAILS AS WELL AS I ASSUME WE DEMAND TO.
ESPECIALLY ADDRESS HOW THIS IS NOT GOING TO EFFECT THE.
QUALITY OF LIFE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT.
STAY IN R1 LOCATIONS, AND WE DEMAND TO BE REALLY CLEAR AS WELL AS WE REQUIREMENT.
BECAUSE OF, to COMMUNICATE THAT.
ALL THE EMAILS I'' VE HAD, THAT IS THE OVERARCHING ITEM IS.
THAT THIS IS GOING TO INFLUENCE.
MY TOP QUALITY OF LIFE.AND I ADDITIONALLY NEED TO ADD THAT. THE E-MAILS THAT I ' VE HAD THAT.
HAVE BEEN OPPOSED HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY SPECIFIC TO ONE.
COMMUNITY. NOT COMPLETELY, BUT VERY PARTICULARLY TO ONE AREA. THE MAJORITY OF THE REST HAVE BEEN.
GENERALLY OVER THE REMAINDER OF THE AREAS. THERE IS SOME DIFFERENTIALS.
THERE THAT I ASSUME WE ALSO REQUIRED TO ADDRESS, AND ALSO FOR THOSE.
REASONS I WILL SUPPORT THE.
REFERENCE. >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANK.
YOU, ALDERMAN MacLEOD. ALDERMAN DEMONG? >> > > I WILL CERTAINLY NOT BE SUPPORTING.
THIS EITHER. MOSTLY FOR THE VERY SAME FACTORS THAT SO ELOQUENTLY STATED BY.
ALDERMANS LOWE AS WELL AS PINCOTT. I DO WISH TO MENTION THAT THE SECTION B, I BELIEVE, IS THE.
MOST VITAL PART THAT WE.
HAVE TO DEAL WITH. I'' D RATHER IT NOT BE STATED IF.
THIS TURNS UP ONCE MORE IN ANOTHER PERSON.
KIND OR MANNER, NOT SO MUCH AS AN ENFORCEMENT ON METHOD. I'' D LIKE TO SEE IT TURN UP IN.
A CARROT AND STICK APPROACH. THERE ARE TWO MEANS TO BARGAIN.
WITH THE COLLECTIONS AND ALSO SIMPLY.
SAYING APPLYING THE REGULATIONS ISN'' T ALWAYS THE ONLY MEANS. ENCOURAGING TO RAISE TO.
CODE WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER MANNER. NO, IN THE FASHION IT'' S. WRITTEN NOW I WILL CERTAINLY NOT BE SUSTAINING IT.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: FOLKS,.
EYE ON THE CLOCK.WE ACTUALLY HAVE JUST ANOTHER PERSON. MINUTE.
ALDERMAN POOTMANS, DID YOU INTENDED TO … BECAUSE INSTANCE, WE ARE RECESSED.
UP UNTIL 7:15. THANKS.
“” CAPTIONING OF THIS CONFERENCE IS.
PROVIDED AS An INTERACTION ACCESSIBILITY MEASURE AS WELL AS IS NOT.
INTENDED AS A VERBATIM.
RECORDS OF THE PROCEDURES. IF MISTAKES HAPPEN, IT MAY BE.
AS A RESULT OF PERSON MISTAKE, TECHNICAL.
PROBLEMS OR AN FAILURE FOR THE WRITER TO HEAR.
OR UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING.
CLAIMED. WHILE BEST SHOT ARE MADE TO FILE AS CLOSELY AS.
FEASIBLE WHAT IS BEING SAID THE.
CAPTIONS CANISTER NOT BE RELIED UPON AS A CERTIFIED ACCURATE RECORD.
OF THE PROCEDURES.””.
>> > > ALDER POINT OF VIEW POOTMANS. >> > > YES, YOUR PRAISE. HASN'' T BEEN REPRESENTED. I AM JUST THINKING INDEED. AFTER A PRODUCTIVE COLLECTIONS OF.
DISCUSSIONS AFTER DINNER, I.
THINK WE'' RE MOVING TO NUMBER 5, NEXT. WE'' RE ON NUMBER 5. WHERE ARE WE AT NOW?
>> HAVE WE MOVED NUMBER 5 YET? > > NUMBER 5 IS MOVED. > > NUMBER 5 HAS BEEN RELOCATED BY>> ALDERMAN CARRA.
> > YES, I HAVE A LOT
TO SAY, AS.
An ISSUE OF FACT.I AM JUST COLLECTING MY. THOUGHTS. I ASSUME THE SECRET TO NUMBER 5 IS THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO LEARN.
EVEN MORE. WHEN WE REQUEST A COMPLETELY INFORMED DEBATE, I AM UNSURE ANY OF United States.
HAS EXPERIENCED THE TYPE OF.
ARGUMENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE IDEALLY SOUGHT FOR AN PROBLEM OF.
> > MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN INDIVIDUALS. ALDERMAN McLEOD, WOULD YOU.
MIND TRADING POSITIONS WITH ME?
>> > > YOUR WORSHIP >>. > > THANKS QUITE, ALDERMAN
. McLEOD. I ALSO AM GOING TO ASSISTANCE NUMBER 5, FOR An EXTREMELY STRAIGHT FORWARD. FACTOR. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO CALGARIANS FOR WEEKS AS WELL AS WEEKS.
AND WEEKS ON THIS, AND UNLIKE.
ALDERMAN PINCOTT, I WEAR'' T REMORSE THE CONVERSATION. IT'' S BEEN A GOOD DISCUSSION,. AS WELL AS I ASSUME THAT WHILE INTERESTS HAVE BEEN HIGH, PASSIONS SHOULD.
BE HIGH, BECAUSE THIS IS A. REALLY IMPORTANT PROBLEM FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY. WHAT WE HEARD CONSTANTLY WAS. THAT THE PRESENT SYSTEM DOESN ' T FUNCTION.
EVEN THE MOST HARD-CORE. CHALLENGERS OF CHANGE ADMIT THAT IT IS
OUTRAGEOUS FOR CITY. COUNCIL TO CHOOSE ON.
SPECIFIC SECONDARY COLLECTION APPLICATIONS. EVEN THE MOST STRIDENT OF.
CHALLENGERS AGREE THAT A SYSTEM IN WHICH WE WILLINGLY TURN A BLIND.
EYE TO TENS OF THOUSANDS OF OUR.
NEIGHBOURS ALLOWING THEM TO STAY IN A WORLD WITHOUT THE BASIC.
LEGAL DEFENSES THAT THE REST.
PEOPLE ENJOY IS NOT A GLOBE OR A NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH THEY WISH TO.
WE DON ' T HAVE ALL THE REMEDIES. WE DON ' T HAVE ALL THE RIGHT ANSWERS. WE ARE NOT READY TO ICE UP IN THE SYSTEM THAT DOESN'' T MAKE
ANY.
AIMED OUT ABOUT THOSE CHILDREN IN.
PARKDALE IS EXTREMELY, REALLY TRUE. THEY DIDN'' T HAVE ENOUGH WARMTH. THEY HAD NO ONE TO COMPLAIN TO. THE ONLY CHOICE THEY OBTAINED WAS AN UNSAFE AREA HEATING UNIT. AND ALSO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT TOOK PLACE TO.
THOSE PEOPLE. AND IT'' S DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE, AS A. AREA, HAVE WILLINGLY CHOSEN.
TO TRANSFORM A BLIND EYE, DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE CANISTER'' T ACTUALLY.
WE WANT DO IT ANYMORE, COUNCIL. IT WASN ' T ME WHO BROUGHT THIS ONWARD, I KNOW THE MEDIA LOVE. TO SAY IT WAS ME THAT BROUGHT.
SINCE NOW THAT IT IS ON THE TABLE, WE CAN NO LONGER QUIT. WE CONTAINER NO LONGER SAY, APPEARANCE, THE. EXCELLENT SUFFICIENT, SINCE IT ISN'' T. AND ALSO SO, YEAH, WE LISTENED TO GREAT DEALS OF TERRIFIC CONCEPTS.
WHAT WE HAD ON THE TABLE GOING INTO TODAY WAS PROBABLY NOT.
EXACTLY THE RIGHT SOLUTION. WE'' VE HAD LOTS OF GREAT SUGGESTIONS, AND ALSO ALL THIS MOVE DOES.
IS ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO RELOCATE.
FORWARD.IT DOESN ' T SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE.
LICENSES, IT DOESN'' T SAY YOU. NEED TO HAVE A NEW ENFORCEMENT METHOD. IT STATES GO CONSIDER IT, COME.
BACK TO COUNCIL WITH SOME IDEAS, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE.
SYSTEM THE WAY IT IS TODAY IS.
IT'' S NOT THE LAST SYSTEM WE. NEED.
IT ACTUALLY PROVIDES United States THE ABILITY.
TO MOVE ON, TO DO SOME MORE BELIEVING, AND FOR COUNCIL TO.
ULTIMATELY DECIDE ON.
THE KIND OF SYSTEM WE THINK OUR CONSTITUENTS WANT. THE LAST POINT I NEED TO CLAIM IS.
THERE'' S BEEN SO MUCH BACK AS WELL AS FORTH ON THAT'' S IN FAVOUR OF. HERE ' S WHAT WE KNOW.
IN 2015. AND WE KNOW BOTH OF THOSE SURVEYS.
REVEALED OVERWHELMING ASSISTANCE FOR. CHANGE. SO MUCH SUPPORT, THAT I. WOULD SUGGEST IF WE ASKED. CALGARIANS HAD THIS WINTER BEEN TOO LONG, WE WOULDN'' T ACTUALLY. OBTAIN THE VERY SAME LEVELS OF SUPPORT. IT'' S AS CLOSE TO A CONSENSUS AS WE'' RE EVER GOING TO OBTAIN. AS WELL AS, YEAH, IT ' S TRUE, THAT SOME. INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THEIR ALDERMAN ON SPEED DIAL, AND HI THERE I WAS ONE.
OF THOSE PEOPLE BEFORE I STOOD UP.
HERE, MAY BE THE ONES THAT ARE COMPLAINING REGARDING THIS. THAT'' S TRUE. IF YOU GUYS WANT EVEN MORE INFORMATION, I ' LL PROVIDE YOU MORE INFORMATION. WE'' VE HAD 500 COMMUNICATIONS TO.
MY OFFICE.67 OR 69% OF THEM HAVE BEEN IN.
FAVOUR OF CHANGE. THE SCIENTIFIC POLLS THAT WE'' VE DONE HAVE REGULARLY SHOWN.
THAT 75 TO 80% OF PEOPLE REMAIN IN.
FAVOUR OF CHANGE. AS WELL AS IF WE HAD INQUIRED THE.
CONCERN, IS THE STATUS A.
GOOD ANSWER, I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT 99% OF THEM WOULD HAVE.
CLAIMED NO. AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO MOVE THIS SPHERE AHEAD, TO.
HELP United States STEP DOWN THE FIELD, AND.
TO ASSIST United States DO WHAT'' S RIGHT FOR ALL OF OUR NEIGHBOURS. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THERE'' S NOTHING ELSE LIGHTS ON', SO WE ' LL TELEPHONE CALL THE CONCERN. ALDERMAN CARRA TO CLOSE.
>> > > YEAH, I AGREE WITH WHAT THE MAYOR CLAIMED. WE SPOKE ABOUT– I JUST DESIRED.
TO MAKE THE POINT THAT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT WE'' VE AGREED TO
DO OR PERHAPS. CONSIDERED TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY IS
THE. RESPONSE. TO'ANY INQUIRY.
IT ' S SORT OF A POULTRY AND ALSO EGG.
SECONDARY SUITES ARE NOT THE. NOTHING WE ' VE CONTEMPLATED TODAY OR CONSIDERED CONTEMPLATING.
TODAY IS THE RESPONSE TO SECONDARY.
SUITES. IT'' S SIMPLY A STEP OF ACTIVITY IN.
THE INSTRUCTIONS OF OBTAINING THERE. AND ALSO SO I ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO ASSISTANCE THIS BECAUSE IT'' S MOVING.
OUT OF OUR CURRENT UNTENABLE.
SCENARIO, AS WELL AS IT SUPPLIES THE POSSIBILITY TO OBTAIN TO A TENABLE.
THANK YOU. > > I SIMPLY DESIRED TO MAKE SURE OR.
VERIFY THAT WE CONTAINER TELEPHONE CALL THIS IN.
TWO PARTS, WITH COMPONENT– WITH SUBSECTION “” A”” BEING THE SECONDLY.
> > AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR A.
RECORDED VOTE BALLOT WELL ON EACH. HOW AM I GOING TO CALL IT? WE'' LL PHONE CALL A FIRST AND ALSO THEN B.
>> > > ON PROCEDURE, YOUR WORSHIPPRAISE
PREAMBLE HAS CONTENT IN IT WHICH.
I TIN NOT SUPPORT.
“” A”” HAS, FOR INSTANCE, I TIN'' T. SUPPORT, AND “B”, IT ' S REACHED BE. HIRED 3 COMPONENTS, I PRESUME, IS MY INQUIRY>>. > > YOU'TIN ' T SUPPORT
ANY ONE OF. THEM, “LE “A” AS WELL AS “” B””. >> > > IF I MAY, ALDERMAN McLEOD.
ONCE AGAIN ON PROCEDURE, I DID CHECK.
AND THE PRELUDE READS RIGHT INTO “” A”” AN IT'' S READ “THAT “B” SO.
WHAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY CALLING IS.
PREAMBLE An AND AFTER THAT PRELUDE B. >> > > OK>>. > > IS EVERYONE CLEAR WHAT WE'' RE. VOTING >> ON? > > SORRY. I– I AM NOT. SINCE ARE WE FROM WHAT THE MAYOR SIMPLY STATED, WOULD WE BE.
TECHNICALLY VOTING ON THE.
> > OK. > > THAT WOULD BE MY.
UNDERSTANDING. WE'' RE CALLS A RECORDED VOTE. ON “” A””.
>> > > A VIDEOTAPED VOTE, ALDERMAN HODGES FOR, ALDERMAN FARRELL.
ALDERMAN CHABOT AGAINST, ALDERMAN DEMONG AGAINST. > > ALDERMAN STEVENSON AGAINST,.
ALDERMAN JONES AGAINST, ALDERMAN PINCOTT AGAINST, AND ALDERMAN.
McLEOD FOR. THAT'' S WHOLE LOTS, YOUR WORSHIP. >> > > THANK YOU. AND ALSO CURRENTLY WE'' LL BALLOT ON “B””.
>> > > TAPE-RECORDED VOTE, FOR 5 B, ALDERMAN HODGES FOR, ALDERMAN.
FARRELL FOR, ALDERMAN CARRA FOR,.
ALDERMAN CHABOT AGAINST, ALDERMAN DEMONG AGAINST, MAYOR.
NENSHI FOR, ALDERMAN LOWE.
VERSUS, ALDERMAN POOTMANS FOR, ALDERMAN STEPHENSON AGAINST,.
ALDERMAN JONES AGAINST, ALDERMAN.
THAT'' S LUGGED, YOUR WORSHIP. > > AND ALSO WE ' RE OFF. > > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.AGAIN, THIS IS A SERIES OF.
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 4, DIRECT. SUITES WITH REGARD TO.
DEMANDS THAT HAVE A MATERIAL INFLUENCE ON THE. CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF SUCH.
SUITES, BUT DO NOT HAVE AN INFLUENCE ON THE SAFETY OF THOSE. RESIDENCES BASED ON THOSE FINDINGS,. PREPARE A COLLECTION OF RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE CONSTRUCTING CODE FOR. PRESENTATION TO THE PROVINCIAL.
GOVERNMENT, AS WELL AS REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL NO LATER THAN 2011 JUNE. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT. OF THE PROCEDURE. WE CANISTER NOT EVEN BEGIN TO ADDRESS. SECONDARY SUITES WITHOUT.
ADDRESS, BUT WE NEED TO BRING. DISTRICT THAT WE ' RE
EAGER TO DO.
SUPPORT THIS. AND I WOULD BE REALLY HAPPY IF.
ON THIS SPECIFIC CONCERN.
> > WELL, I BELIEVE I '>> LL ASK THAT INQUIRY BECAUSE IN REALITY THAT ' S. THERE FOR A PAIR OF SECONDS AS TO WHETHER IN FACT THERE HASN ' T. ALREADY BEEN A CONVERSATION ABOUT.
THIS. GIVEN WHAT I HEARD AT MLA.
MURMUR IN MY EAR DURING THE
. PARTY OF THE CHINESE BRAND-NEW YEAR ' S AT THE END OF JANUARY OF.
2011.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I CAN ABSOLUTELY FILL UP COUNCIL KNOW MY.
DISCUSSIONS. TO BACK UP A LITTLE, AS MOST OF YOU UNDERSTAND, THERE WAS AN MLA.
COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY MLA MOE.
EMERY, SOME YEARS EARLIER. WHOSE GOAL WAS TO SIMPLIFY.
STRUCTURE AND ALSO FIRE CODE.
POLICIES AROUND SECONDARY SUITES.
> > WE CANISTER ' T INCLUDE 3. > > IF YOU ' LL ALLOW THIS AS
. > > YOUR PRAISE, IT ' S POSSIBLE. > > THAT ' S WHAT I DESIRED TO MAKE CLEAR, YOUR PRAYER. > > AND WE ' RE OFF.AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM, THEY'' RE VERY COMMON SENSE.THERE IS ONE STICKY
ONE WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR A SEPARATE HOME HEATING SYSTEM AND DUCT FUNCTION FOR THE ADDITIONAL COLLECTION AND WE JUST GOT AN INTERPRETATION MEMO THAT CLAIMED THAT THAT COULD BE DEFINED AS– YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE SHOCKED AT THIS– A.
SEPARATE HEATER OR A ROOM HEATING SYSTEM. INDEED. EXACTLY. I HAVE– I HAVE SPOKE WITH.
THE PREACHER ON THIS PROBLEM A.
NUMBER OF TIMES, AND ALSO HE HAS SUGGESTED, AS– AS WELL AS Mr. GOUPD.
ROU COMPOSED ME BACK, WROTE A.
LETTER BACK STATING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD BE.
WILLING TO CONSIDER. MY SENSE IN ANALYSIS BETWEEN THE LINES IS IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR.
THEM TO CONSIDER IT IF COUNCIL.
WERE TO ACCREDIT United States TO ACTUALLY MAKE AN ASK ON THAT PARTICULAR. FOR ME, THIS REALLY SOME THAT.
2 HEATERS CONCERN.
>> > > YES, BUT THE DANGER WOULD BE.
THE PROBLEM– I AM TRYING TO BE.
SERIOUS, THE TROUBLE WOULD BE IF THEY TAKE THE 2ND FURNACE OUT.
AS A NEED AS WELL AS LEAVE THE.
AREA HEATER IN. YOUR PRAISE, WHEN YOU ARE.
DISCUSSING IT WITH THEM, AS I.
KNOW OR THEY ARE DISCUSSING IT WITH YOU, WATCH, YOU KNOW,.
ON THAT, THAT THEY DON'' T– WE. DON ' T WIND UP WITH An AREA HEATING UNIT REGIMEN. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I. ABSOLUTELY WILL, ALDERMAN HODGES AND ALSO IN REALITY I MISSPOKE SLIGHTLY.
A MOMENT AGO. IT WAS ACTUALLY THE LETT FROM THE PRIEST THAT STATED, IN HIS.
MIND, An AREA HEATING SYSTEM IS GOOD,.
AND ALSO IF COUNCIL PASSES THIS, I WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE HIM A KEEP IN MIND.
GOING, UMM, NO. ALDERMAN CHABOT. >> > > THANKS, YOUR PRAISE.
WELL, AS YOU SUGGESTED, THERE. WAS SOME CONVERSATION AT SOME TIME BACK TO TRY AS WELL AS LOOSEN UP SOME OF THOSE.
LAWS TO ASSIST IN.
BRINGING SEVERAL OF THESE UNITS INTO CONFORMITY MORE CONVENIENTLY, AS WELL AS.
WHEN IT PERTAINS TO RELAXATION OF.
REGULATIONS, AS WELL AS ALTHOUGH SOME MAY NOT BELIEVE IT HAS A.
MATERIAL SECURITY EFFECT, AS YOU.
AIMED OUT YOURSELF, EVEN A SEPARATE FURNACE, HAVING LIVED.
IN BASEMENT SUITES MICE.
PERSONALLY, I CAN– I TIN VOUCH FOR ONE POINT WITHOUT A DOUBT. WE NEVER SEEM TO AGREE ON.
TEMPERATURE, United States AND ALSO INDIVIDUALS ABOVE. WHETHER IT'' S THE UPSTAIRS.
THAT'' S BOILING OR THE DOWNSTAIRS THAT'' S BOILING, THERE SEEMS TO.
BE A NEED TO SUPPLEMENT WARMTH. SOMEHOW, SOME MEANS, IN AMONG THE SPACES.
AND ALSO THEREIN EXISTS PART OF THE. CHALLENGE.AND IT EXCEEDS THAT. WHAT VARIOUS OTHER RELAXATIONS WILL.
THERE BE? I KNOW ONE OF THE PROPOSALS HAD.
TO DO WITH CEILING LEVELS,.
RELAX THE NEED FOR CEILING HEIGHTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT CEILING LEVELS MAY.
NOT BE A PROBLEM FOR A GUY OF MY HEIGHT, BUT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE.
SIGNIFICANTLY TALLER THAN ME,.
WHICH IS PROBABLY MOST OF THE POPULATION, MAY HAVE.
CONCERN WITH THE RELAXATION ON.
SEVERAL OF THOSE CEILING ELEVATIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE IN THE.
MIDST OF A SITUATION AS WELL AS YOU TIN'' T. SEE WHERE YOU ' RE GOING. WHAT VARIOUS OTHER RELAXATIONS WOULD.
THERE BE? SEPARATE ENTRYWAY, DOOR THAT OPENS IN VERSUS OUT, I DON'' T. KNOW WHAT EVERY ONE OF THE LEISURES.
ARE, BUT I AM NOT HELPFUL OF ANY INITIATIVE THAT WILL.
COMPROMISE OR POSSIBLY.
COMPROMISE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN A.
STRUCTURE. SO I AM NOT GOING TO ASSISTANCE THIS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THANKS, ALDERMAN CHABOT. ALDERMAN LOWE?
>> > > MY QUESTIONS TO– I AM NOT.
TOO SURE WHO CANISTER RESPONSE IT. HOW LONG DOES IT USUALLY TAKE.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF ALBERTA TO.
MAKE A REGULATORY CHANGE LIKE THIS?
>> > > Mr. WATSON
>>. > > IT TAKES A LONG TIME.AS A MATTER OF REALITY,.
APRIL 15th IS WHEN WE HAVE TO.
GET ALL OUR CHANGES, PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE ALBERTA.
GOVERNMENT, AS WELL AS THERE'' S A– ON. > > I QUESTION IF I COULD GET YOU. > > THAT ' S BETTER, YEAH.
> > I WAS JUST STATING THAT. APRIL 15th IS ACTUALLY A. TARGET DATE NOW FOR THEM TO CONSIDER CHANGES FOR THE 2012.
ALBERTA BUILDING ORDINANCE, AS'A. MATTER OF FACT.
THAT ' S THE KIND OF LEAD TIME. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. I HAVE A MEMORANDUM PERTAINING TO YOU IN A NUMBER OF DAYS THAT THEY ' RE. GOING TO DETAIL THE ONES THAT.
WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD.OBVIOUSLY, I DON ' T THINK WE CONTAINER. GET THIS RIGHT INTO THAT PIPE THAT.
SWIFTLY. WE ' LL CERTAINLY BRING
IT. ONWARD. THE MINISTER, AN ORDER IN COUNCIL, I BELIEVE, ISRAELIS TEAR.
IS THE RIGHT TERM, CAN ACTUALLY.
DO SOMETHING OUT OF SYNC WITH THE REMAINDER OF IT, BUT THAT ALSO.
BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT. THE BIG CONCERN, IN TERMS OF.
PRICE, AS YOUR PRAISE HAS.
DISCUSSED IS THE DEMAND UNDER ALL BRAND-NEW BUILDING NOW.
FOR SECONDARY SUITES, TO OFFER.
A DIFFERENT HEATING UNIT. WE MAY HAVE THE ABILITY TO OBTAIN AN.
AGREEMENT WITH THE PROVINCE, AS.
YOUR PRAISE HAS ACTUALLY MENTIONED THAT A ROOM HEATING UNIT IS THE EQUIVALENT.
WE'' RE TALKING TO THE DISTRICT
. > > OKAY. YOU UNDERSTAND, THAT– YOU ANSWERED– IN FACT 2.
QUESTIONNESS ONE THERE, WITH HOW.
LONG, A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IS THE RIGHT RESPONSE AND WHEN'' S THE CUTOFF.
DAY WHICH'' S THE 15th OF.
APRIL THIS YEAR.I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THROUGH.
NORTHERN COUNCIL THINGS CANISTER.
HAPPEN, I ALWAYS WORRY WHEN THAT TAKES PLACE BECAUSE REALLY COMMONLY, LIKE.
OUR POLITICAL ELECTION EXPENDITURE AND THINGS,.
THEY'' RE NOT REALLY COMPLETELY COOKED WHEN THEY OBTAIN VIA THERE. SO IT'' S A LITTLE A CONCERN. IF YOU COULD ADD SOMETHING ELSE TO THE LIST, Mr. WATSON, TO.
THE ROOM HEATING SYSTEM, I JUST HAD AN.
APPLICATION FOR A SECOND SUITE IN OUR ONE AREA CROSS.
MY DESK TODAY. THE INTERESTING ASPECT OF IT WAS THAT, TO GET TO THE.
MECHANICAL SPACE, YOU NEEDED TO GO.
WALK WITH THE FULL SIZE OF THE COLLECTION. WHICH STRUCK ME AS BEING A.
LITTLE BIT ODD, PARTICULARLY– AMID– YOU UNDERSTAND, THAT WAS BETWEEN WHERE.
INDIVIDUAL WERE LIVING AND ALSO THE.
ESCAPE OF YOUR HOME, I MIGHT ADD TOO. IT'' S A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING.
CONUNDRUM.SO WHILE I APPRECIATE IT,.
ALDERMAN CARRA, AS WELL AS I AGREE,.
THIS IS AN NECESSARY ELEMENT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM SUSTAINING.
THIS, BUT QUITE FRANKLY, WE'' RE. PROBABLY LOOKING AT 18 MONTHS, CAUTIOUSLY, UNTIL WE HAVE.
SOMETHING MATERIAL IN OUR HANDS.
YOU'' VE GOT TO BEGIN. ALDERMAN MacLEOD. > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE.
DEDICATED THEMSELVES TO THE TEN-YEAR STRATEGY. THIS IS A PIECE OF THAT PROBLEM,.
AS WELL AS I ASSUME IT REQUIRES TO BE SUPPORTED FOR THAT AND MANY.
VARIOUS OTHER FACTORS. I BELIEVE THAT THE CODE, RELATIVE TO SECONDARY SUITES, IS.
SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY PROTECTS AGAINST.
INDIVIDUALS– IT URGES INDIVIDUALS NOT TO OBTAIN THEM LEGALIZED, I.
GUESS, IS WHAT I AM LOOKING TO.
SAY.THANK YOU.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK. YOU REALLY MUCH.
ALDERMAN PROVIDER?
>> > > THANKS, YOUR PRAISE. I WAS JUST EVALUATING THOSE SUGGESTIONS FROM THE 2006.
RECORD OF THE PROVINCE, AS WELL AS.
BASICALLY, WHAT WE'' RE BEING ASKED TO ACCOMPLISH RIGHT HERE IS COVERED IN.
THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. I IMPLY, THEY DO YAP ABOUT THE PRICE, THE NUMBER ONE.
RECOMMENDATION WAS CRITERIA FOR.
SECONDARY SUITES NEED TO BE DEVELOPED FOR USAGE IN SINGLE.
FAMILY MEMBERS HOUSES TO ADDRESS THE NEED.
TO SAFETY AND SECURITY AND PRICE, AND THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF NUMBERS.
AROUND THAT. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO ESTABLISH PROVINCE WIDE STANDARDS FOR.
SECONDARY SUITES UNDER THE.
ALBERTA BUILDING AS WELL AS FIRE CODES, AS WELL AS PROCEED TO HAVE SELECTION TO.
FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE SUITES.
SHOULD BE PERMITTED.STANDARDS FOR SECONDARY SUITES. SHOULD PUT ON BOTH BRAND-NEW AND ALSO.
EXISTING HOMES, AND THERE ' S OTHERS. I THINK WHAT I PREFERRED TO SEE,.
Mr. WATSON, IS TO HAVE YOU SCOPE OUT WHAT THIS PIECE OF.
FUNCTION WOULD ENTAIL. SINCE IF YOU WEAR'' T HAVE THE RESOURCES IN ORDER TO DO THIS,.
SOMETHING HAS TO COME OFF THE.
TABLE, IN ORDER FOR United States TO UNDERTAKE THIS FUNCTION. I ASSUME IT'' S CRUCIAL WORK.
WHAT YOU COULD DO WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THE SUGGESTIONS AS.
THEY WERE APPROVED BY THE.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN '' 06 AND CHECK OUT THAT FIVE-YEAR DURATION ON IN WHICH.
WE HAVE COME SINCE THOSE.
IF, recommendations WERE MADE.SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS. IF WE WERE TO REFER THIS, WE–.
AND ALSO HAVE YOU COME BACK IN A WEEK OR 2 TO RANGE THIS OUT, WITH.
THE RESOURCES THAT WOULD BE.
REQUIRED, TO DO THIS WORK, ESPECIALLY IF IT'' S GOING TO TAKE. 18 MONTHS, I DON'' T KNOW HOW LONG. > >'THANK YOU.I DON ' T THINK THE REAL AMOUNT.
THAT LARGE, WITH RESPECT. THE EFFORT IS EVEN MORE THE.
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PROVINCE,.
THAN THE ARRANGEMENTS TO OBTAIN PEOPLE ON SIDE TO ASSISTANCE IT. BOTH WITHIN THE BUILDING.
INDUSTRY, AGAIN, I WEAR'' T THINK THAT MUST BE A MASSIVE CONCERN. I AM NOT AS ANXIOUS
ABOUT THE–. WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS IN STRUCTURE REGULATIONS NOW, THEIR JOB IS TO.
APPEARANCE AT THE CODE AND MAKE.
MODIFICATIONS CONSTANTLY AS WELL AS FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE IT FORWARD, AS WELL AS.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE, BASED.
ON THE WORK THAT WAS DONE IN 2006, THERE'' S A GREAT DEAL OF FUNCTION. ALREADY– PREPARATORY FUNCTION.
ALREADY DONE THAT WE CAN RESTORE UP AGAIN AND TAKE A LOOK AT. IT'' S NOT SO MUCH GETTING IT
. PREPARED TO GO, IT'' S MORE REGARDING OBTAINING IT OVER THE OBJECTIVE LINE.
WITH THE DISTRICT, THAT TAKES A.
MUCH LONGER PROCESS.SO I APPRECIATE THAT. > > AND THIS DOESN ' T SPEAK AT ALL TO SPEAKING WITH WITH ANYONE. > > WELL, NO, THESE COME TO BE REALLY TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT THERE ARE.
LESS OF A CONSULTATIONAL PROCESS THAN IT IS SEEING TO IT THAT WE. WORK WITH WITH OUR COMPANIONS IN.
> > THANK YOU. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK. > > YEAH.
CONSIDER WHAT COMES. I HOPE YOU SUPPORT THIS.CLOSED. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN CARRA. VERY WELL, THEN, ALDERMAN CARRA? > > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP.
THAT I HEARD THAT ISN ' T INCLUDED IN THE REMAINING 2'. ACTIVITIES IS THE POSSIBLE FOR.
COMMUNITY APPOINTMENT.
AS WELL AS I DID SAY IN MY OPENING. ADDRESS THAT I ASSUME THAT WE.
NEED TO OBTAIN OUR AREA PREPARATION PROCESSES TO THE NEXT. DEGREE. IN THE SPIRIT OF DEALING WITH THE RIGHT-MINDED PROBLEMS, WHICH ARE. HAVING COST, WHICH ARE
. COMPETITIVENESS OF CALGARY AS WE ENTER AN FINANCIAL UPTURN,. FAVORABLE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LEGAL RIGHTS AS.
OPPOSED TO NEGATIVE PROPERTY CIVIL LIBERTIES, THE REALITY THAT INDIVIDUALS. THEIR RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY RATHER THAN SAY WHAT OTHER INDIVIDUALS CANISTER DO ON.
BORDERING THEM.I AM GOING TO MOVE
2 AND 3, TO.
DIRECTING ADMINISTRATION TO.
PREPARE A LAW CHANGE THAT ENABLES SECONDARY SUITES IN. CONNECTED AND SEPARATED FORMS TO.
BE DISCUSHIONNARY AREAS.
WITHIN A 2.5-KILOMETER RADIUS OF. MOUNT IMPERIAL COLLEGE
, ACADEMY,.
BOW VALLEY COLLEGE AS WELL AS THE UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY AND NUMBER.
3 DIRECT MANAGEMENT TO.
PREPARE A LAW MODIFICATION THAT PERMITS SECONDARY SUITES.
AFFIXED AND REMOVED KINDS, TO.
BE A DISCRETIONARY USE IN ALL AREAS PRESENTLY ZONED R 1,.
RC 1 AND RC 1-L WITHIN.
400 METERS OF AN LRT TERMINAL OR BRT CONDITION.
>> > > I MOTIVATE THE ARGUMENT.
BORDERING THIS TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE.
PRINCIPLE ISSUES AS WELL AS THE.
TECHNICAL CONCERNS, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THAT'' S REALLY THE ESSENCE OF THE ISSUE.> > > DO YOU REQUIRED A SECONDER,.
ALDERMAN CARRA. >> > > IS ANYONE GOING TO SECONDLY.
THIS?
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANKS, ALDERMAN MacLEOD. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE IT ON THE.
I AM NOT EVEN GOING TO ASK YOU. > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER. I THINK IN THE PETER OF PREVIOUS.
TWO ACTIVITIES AGO, WHERE WE PASSED A REFERENCE TO MANAGEMENT FOR.
EVEN MORE SERVICE THIS SUBJECT, IN.
THE KEEN SENSE FROM MY VIEWPOINT OF WANTING TO LEARN HOW.
SECONDARY SUITES CAN BE ALLOWED.
TO COME OUT INTO THE OPEN, END UP BEING SAFE, ADDRESS PARKING.
PROBLEMS, ZONE TENANCY, ALL OF.
THESE ISSUES WHICH I EXPECT MANAGEMENT TO CONSIDER, AND.
FURTHER MORE, IN FEE TRAINING COURSE, A.
FULLY INVOLVED PUBLIC ASSESSMENT AND FULL PUBLIC.
DISCUSSION. I WOULD ANTICIPATE BOTH THE PROBLEMS OF NUMBER 2, THAT IS, ALLOWING.
IN A DISCRETIONARY USE IN ALL.
AREAS PRESENTLY ZONED R 1, RC 1, AS WELL AS RC 1-L WITHIN A 2.5.
DISTANCES OF WARD 6 MOUNT ROYAL.
COLLEGE, THE LARGE BULK OF THAT FACE WILL BE RC 1. I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT ISSUE TO.
COME UNDER THE FACTOR TO CONSIDER OF NUMBER 5, IN OTHER WORDS, I.
WOULD ANTICIPATE MANAGEMENT TO.
REPORT ON THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT FOR MORGAN PARTICULARLY.
AND I WOULD ASSUME OTHER.
NEIGHBOURHOODS IMPACTED BY THE DISCRETIONARY USE NOW PERMITTED.
OR TO BE PERMITTED AROUND THE.
VARIOUS OTHER INSTRUCTIONAL ESTABLISHMENTS, SAIT, BOW VALLEY AND ALSO THE.
COLLEGE OF CALGARY. SIMILARLY, IN NUMBER 3, DIRECTING ADMINISTRATION,.
PREPARE A BYLAW MODIFICATION THAT.
ENABLES SECONDARY SUITES THAT PERMITS CONNECTED AS WELL AS SEPARATED.
TYPES IN ALL CURRENTLY ZONED R.
1, RC 1, AND ALSO RC 1-L WITHIN 400 METERS OF AN LRT STATION, I.
THINK THAT THE EFFECTS FOR.
A NUMBER OF THE PRESENT LRT STATIONS AS WELL AS THOSE UNDER.
CONSTRUCTION WILL CERTAINLY ALSO BE.
SIMILARLY AFFECTED AS WELL AS PERHAPS COULD BE SUBJECT THE SOME OF THE.
FUNCTION AS WELL AS STUDY THAT.
ADMINISTRATION DOES.SO CONSEQUENTLY
I WILL CERTAINLY NOT BE.
SUPPORTING NUMBER 2 OR NUMBER 3,.
IN EXPECTANCY OF THE OUTCOMES OF THE RESEARCH THAT WILL BE.
DONE BY MANAGEMENT. THANKS, YOUR WORSHIP. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU, VERY MUCH ALDERMAN.
POOTMANS. ALDERMAN HODGES?
>> > > YEAH, YOUR PRAISE, THOSE ARE. GREAT'REMARKS, BUT THERE ' S SIMPLY ONE PROBLEM. IN NUMBER 2 IN THE FIRST 3 WE ' RE. NOT ASKING THE MANAGEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH ANY STUDY ABOUT ANYTHING. AND ALSO THEY ARE BEING GIVEN NO.
DIRECTION, APART FROM A LAND USAGE APPLICATION THAT WILL CERTAINLY FLY FORTH.
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, PROBABLY.
SOONER, TO THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND THE RESPONSIBILITY.
MAY BE ON THE CITY, MAY BE ON.
THE ASSOCIATION, OR OTHER ARRANGED GROUPS, OR NOT SO.
ORGANIZED GROUPS TO HOLD SOME.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION CONCERNING IT. SO IF ALDERMAN POOTMANS, IF YOU.
HAD SUGGESTED THAT THERE BE A.
PUBLIC INTERACTION WORKOUT CONNECTED TO NUMBER 2, AND ALSO IN.
FACT TO NUMBER 3 ALSO,.
GIVEN THAT BR because THAT IMPACTS A LOT OF AREAS IN THE CITY.
IT'' S ARE A LOT MORE EXTENSIVE. SYSTEM THAN IT MADE USE OF TO BE, AFTER THAT YOU REQUIRED TO ALLOW THE.
MANAGEMENT YOU ANTICIPATE A FULL.
PUBLIC INTERACTION PROCEDURE SIMPLY AS A PRIVATE FIRM, A PRIVATE.
DESIGNER WOULD MAKE WITH THE LAND.
USAGE APPLICATION.THIS IS WHAT THIS IS. ONLY IT IMPACTS LOTS OF, MANY, MANY.
EVEN MORE RESIDENTIAL AND ALSO COMMERCIAL AREAS, RESIDENTIAL IS THE CONCERN.
BELOW, NATURALLY, THAN ANY.
PRIVATE– PRIVATE LAND USE, PRIVATE PROGRAMMER'' S APPLICATION.
MAY– WOULD EVER DO. SO I AM NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING 2 AND 3 AS THEY STAND.
EITHER, UNLESS SOMEONE CAN.
DEFINE A GOOD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCEDURE THAT SELECTS IT,.
OTHERWISE, WE'' RE LEAVING Mr. WATSON AS WELL AS HIS PERSONNEL HANGING AROUND TO DRY.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
> > THANK YOU. 400 METERS. WHEN WE ' VE TALKED REGARDING STROLL
.
HAS IT NOT TYPICALLY BEEN A 500-METER DISTANCES THAT WE TALK.
> > I ASSURE THE CHAIR THERE ' S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH IN THIS. OR SO, TALK REGARDING 600 METERS.THEN IN
THE CALGARY. MADE A DECISION TO BE 400 METERS.
A MILE? QUARTER OF A MILE? QUARTER OF A MILE, ALL RIGHT, A.
QUARTER.
>> > > SO 400 METERS FOLLOWS WHAT WE'' VE IDENTIFIED IN.
THE CTP.
>> > > 400 FOLLOWS THE CALGARY TRANSPORT PLAN,.
WHICH IS WHY I ASSUME THAT IF YOU.
ARE SEEKING A NUMBER, 400'' S NOT AN UNREASONABLE NUMBER IN.
TERMS OF– AS WELL AS HE CLEARLY,.
THE MAGIC AROUND ALL THESE THINGS IS, CERTAINLY, AS YOU GO.
FARTHER, THE VARIETY OF PEOPLE.
PREPARED TO STROLL DECREASES OFF AND ALSO WHETHER OR NOT THERE'' S. CONNECTIVITY IN THE PATHWAYS.
AS WELL AS SO ON.PICK 500
, CHOICE 600, I SUGGEST,.
IT … MAKE THE CIRCLE BIGGER. >> > > OK, I SIMPLY INTENDED TO CHECK.
SINCE I WASN'' T SURE WHEN THE. 400 WAS CONSISTENT. YOUR PRAYER I WOULD IN FACT. LIKE TO AT THIS POINT PROPOSE AN. MODIFICATION. THANK YOU.
MY CHANGE WILL BE IN NUMBER.
“3. WOULD BE TO TAKE WORDS.
“DISCRETIONARY” AS WELL AS ALTER–. >> CHANGE THAT TO BE PERMITTED. > >> OH, COME ON. >> REALLY? > > THAT IS MY AMENDMENT. > > OK. I WILL CERTAINLY ALLOW IT >>. DO WE HAVE A SECONDER? > > I WOULD SECOND
>> IT IF I COULD,. BRIAN, BUT … > > WELL, I FIND THAT DISAPPOINTING THAT THERE. WOULDN ' T BE A SECONDER FOR THAT. WE– WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT THE CITY THAT WE– THAT WE JUST.
DISCUSS IN THE TRANSPORT.
PLAN, THE MUNICIPAL GROWTH STRATEGY, IT SPEAKS ABOUT– DID I.
SEE A HAND? DID I SEE A HAND RISE FOR A SECOND? OH, NO.
>> > > I BELIEVE I DID. I ASSUME YOU GOT YOUR SECONDER. > > WELL, THAT'' S GOOD.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: HANG ON, HANG ON.
>> > > NO, SHE– SHE–>>. > > TO THE PRIMARY MOTION.
>> > > SORRY.
>> > > DON’T BOTHER.
>> > > SO I FIND THAT– THANK YOU, ALDERMAN MacLEOD, VALIANT.
INITIATIVE. YOU RECOGNIZE, WE DISCUSS CONCENTRATING– AS WELL AS BEGINNING TO.
LOOK AROUND HOW WE MAKE USE,.
MAKE MAXIMUMMAL USE OF OUR TRANSPORTATION NOTES, AS WELL AS TO MAKE.
SECONDARY SUITES PERMITTED USE.
AROUND OUR TRANSIT NOTES, SEEMS TO ME TO BE QUITE MUCH THE.
AREA YOU INTENDED TO START. URBAN CSA, IN 2015 OFFERED An EXCELLENT REPORT TO COUNCIL ON.
EXACTLY HOW YOU COULD BEGIN WITH.
ALLOWED USE, SECONDARY SUITES, 400 METERS AROUND– AROUND LRT.
STATIONS. AND HOW THAT WOULD SERVE THE STUDENT POPULACE, AS WELL AS HOW THAT.
WOULD ACTUALLY BE– ALLOW United States TO.
MAKE BEST USE OF THAT AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE FOR A POPULACE THAT IS.
UNDER-SERVED. SO I JUST– YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, I LOCATE IT LETTING DOWN THAT WE'' RE. BELOW, AS SOON AS ONCE MORE, TALKING ABOUT.
DISCRETIONARY USAGE. CHILD, IF WE WERE STRESSED OVER,.
YOU KNOW, WORKLOADED SDAB, I–.
I WILL, ONCE AGAIN, AS I SAID AT FIRST, I WILL SUPPORT THIS. AGAIN, MY DISSATISFACTION IS.
BECAUSE IT IS BIT-BY-BIT, AS WELL AS I– AND ALSO I DO DREAM THAT AT THE.
EXTREMELY LEAST WE COULD HAVE HAD.
SECONDARY SUITES BE A PERMITTED USAGE AROUND THE ONE AREA THAT.
THEY SHOULD BE TO BEGINNING WITH.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ALDERMAN PINCOTT YOUR REMARKABLE.
POWERS OF PERSUASION GET ON.
SCREEN YET AGAIN BECAUSE YOU JUST OBTAINED YOUR SELF A SECONDER.
>> > > THANK YOU
>>. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SO WE HAVE– WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON.
THE FLOORING, TO MODIFICATION WORDS–.
IT WAS JUST NUMBER 3? NOT NUMBER 2.
IN NUMBER 3 ON THE MODIFICATION,.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ON THE MODIFICATION, simply WAVE YOUR HAND. ALDERMAN CHABOT.
>> > > YOUR PRAISE, I AM SIMPLY WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT WE.
SHOULDN'' T MOVE AN CHANGE TO. THE AMENDMENT.ON THE BASIS OF THAT WE'' RE. MOVING INTO A COMPLETELY NEW.
LAND USE DESTINATION, DISCRETIONARY IS ONE ACTION. THIS IS TAKING 2 ACTIONS. AS WELL AS BECAUSE OF THAT, I BELIEVE PUBLIC CONSULTIVE PROCESS IS.
ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT IN ORDER TO.
RELOCATE INTO THIS PERMITTED USAGE AS AGAINST DISCRETIONARY. DISCRETIONARY IS SOMETHING AS WELL AS I.
RECOMMEND THINKING OUTSIDE OF PACKAGE, BUT TODAY, WE NEED.
TO FIRST THINK INSIDE PACKAGE.
BEFORE WE START THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. AS WELL AS SO THAT'' S WHY I AM GOING TO. SUGGEST THAT WE INCLUDE IN THAT ACTIVITY, FOLLOWING A PUBLIC.
ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: HANG ON, ALDERMAN CHABOT. THE EFFECT OF WHAT YOU'' RE. RECOMMENDING WOULD BE THAT REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOMES OF THE.
PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, THEY WOULD.
STILL RETURN WITH A LAW AMENDMENT MAKING THAT MODIFICATION. IS THAT YOUR INTENT? OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THEM GO CONSIDER IT AS WELL AS AFTER THAT COME.
BACK PERHAPS WITH A BYLAW.
MODIFICATION? >> > > IT WOULD POSSIBLY BE.
RECOMMENDED THE OTHER MEANS.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THE.
IF THE MOVEMENT PASSES, THERE'' S NO FACTOR SINCE THEY
WOULD HAVE. COME BACK WITH THAT ANYWAYS. IF THE MOTION FAILS, I WILL IDENTIFY YOU, AS WELL AS YOU CAN PUT A.
NEW MOTION ACTIVITY SAYS STATES DO.
PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT ON THIS PROBLEM. >> > > IF IT STOPS WORKING>>.
>> IF IT FALLS SHORT, > >. > > FACTOR OF ORDER. YOU CAN ' T DO AN CHANGE TO AN.
MODIFICATION TO AN AMENDMENT. ANYHOW. > > IT ' S NOT, WE ' RE
>> ONLY AT 2.
>>> > > THIS IS ALL AMENDMENTS. >> > > > NO, THIS IS ACTIVITIES> OCCURRING. > > ALL NEW ACTIVITIES. >> > > YEAH. THESE ARE MOVEMENTS. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: SO. WHAT DO YOU THINK, ALDERMAN.
CHABOT? IT'' S NOT AN CHANGE TO AN.
AMENDMENT TO >> AN AMEND THE, JUST.
AN CHANGE. IF, > > SO YOU ARE SUGGEST THAT.
THIS FAILS THAT I SHOULD BRING. ONWARD AN ALTERNATE ACTIVITY THAT CLAIMS–.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
SINCE THE OBSTACLE BELOW– I INDICATE YOU CAN DO IT, I AM NOT.
GOING TO RULE IT OUT OF ORDER,.
THE CHALLENGE IS THE METHOD IT'' S DOING NOW,
WE ' RE DOING. PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT BUT THEY HAVE.
ONLY ONE CHOICE AT THE END OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT WHICH IS TO.
ADVANCING THE BYLAW AND ALSO IT.
APPEARS A BIT DISINGENUOUS TO PERFORM THAT.
>> > > O.K., I WILL CERTAINLY STAND DOWN,.
THANKS FOR THAT ADVICE.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THANKS, ALDERMAN CHABOT. > > WELL, YOUR WORSHIP, I HAD, IN ANTICIPATION OF NUMBER 5,.
FALLING SHORT TWICE, CREATE A.
MOTION WHICH ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OF NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC.
INVOLVEMENT TO DO THE RESEARCH STUDY,.
TO DETERMINE THAT Mr. WATSON IS … TO ACCOMPLISH THE RESEARCH STUDY THAT– WOULD.
PROVIDE THE CHOICES OF GOING THIS COURSE.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I. ABSOLUTELY WILL, ALDERMAN HODGES AS WELL AS IN REALITY I MISSPOKE A LITTLE.
> > THAT ' S BETTER, YEAH.
> > YEAH, YOUR PRAYER, THOSE ARE. BRIAN, BUT … > > WELL, I DISCOVER THAT DISAPPOINTING THAT THERE. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.THAT FAILED, AND ALSO I AM STILL
SITTING RIGHT HERE TAKING A LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE, SINCE I ROLLED INTO
ISSUES WORRYING SECURITY OF
COLLECTIONS AND ALSO AREA IDENTIFIED SAFETY AND SECURITY PROBLEMS AROUND SUITES. AND THERE ARE LOTS OF. AND ALSO THEY ARE IDENTIFIED BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHETHER OR NOT WE
AGREE THERE, THEY ARE SECURITY
CONCERNS OR NOT, EVERYTHING, YOU UNDERSTAND, ASSUMPTION, REALITY IN
THESE SITUATIONS. SO I AM NOT WITHOUT THE AREA BY COMMUNITY FACTOR
ASSESSMENT. I THINK ALDERMAN POOTMANS, YOU SAID THIS– THIS STRIKES, WHAT, 4
OR 5 COMMUNITIES IN YOUR WARD. IT WILL CERTAINLY STRIKE FOUR IN MINE.AND WHAT WE ' RE DOING IS REMOVING THE WORK DONE OF PLANNING COMPENSATION WHERE WE
' VE PUT IN R 1 F INTO A COMMUNITY INTENDS AND SO ON THAT ARE NOT CREATED NOW, BUT IN WHICH THERE ARE … LRT STATIONS OR BRT STATIONS, EITHER NOW OR PLANNED, AS WELL AS WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ELIMINATES ALL OF THAT. AND IT DOES IT WITHOUT GETTING IN TOUCH WITH INDIVIDUAL. AS WELL AS I TIN ' T ASSISTANCE THAT. I HAVE CLAIMED IT BEFORE, I WILL CLAIM IT AGAIN. IF YOU INTENDED TO GET PEOPLE ON BOARD AND ALSO YOU WISHED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM ON THE CONCEPT, AS ALDERMAN CARRA SAYS, THE CONCEPT– THE RIGHT-MINDED THING CONCERNS AROUND THIS, AFTER THAT YOU HAD BETTER TALK TO THE FOLKS.IF YOU WANT MASSIVE PRESS BACK, DO THIS AND ALSO I, FOR ONE, AM NOT INTERESTED IN A PUSH BACK. I THINK IF WE METHOD THIS.
PROPERLY, THERE'' S AN POSSIBILITY TO HAVE SOME ACCEPTANCE. WON'' T OCCUR. > > SO'IT ' S An INQUIRY OF HOW YOU.
BUY-IN, AS WELL AS UNLESS YOU TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT, YOU'' RE
NOT. ALDERMAN HODGES IS EXACTLY.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: TO THE. > > YEAH, I JUST DESIRED TO SAY THAT.
THE QUARTER MILE STROLL, IT ' S, YOU.
KNOW, A TIME-HONOURED ACROSS.
HUMAN BEING DIMENSION A LOT OF HUMAN NEGOTIATIONS TYPE OF FIT.
WITHIN THAT 400-METER DISTANCE.
SETTLEMENT PATTERN AND IT'' S BEEN PROVEN THE PEOPLE WILL STROLL 5.
MINS TO CAPTURE THE BUS,.
OFFERED THEY'' RE STROLLING THROUGH SETTINGS THAT ARE SOMEWHAT.
POSITIVE TO WALK THROUGH. PEOPLE WILL CERTAINLY WALK 800 METERS TO CAPTURE TOP QUALITY TRAIN.
SERVICE, SUPPLIED THEY'' RE. GOING THROUGH An EXCELLENT QUALITY PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT. THESE ARE QUANTITATIVELY.
ESTABLISHED FACTS AND ALSO BEST PRACTICES FOR THREE DECADES FOR URBAN.
SPLIT. TO ENSURE THAT'' S WHERE THOSE NUMBERS ORIGINATE FROM.
AND I ' M STATING I DID NOT MAKE– I BELIEVED A BABY ACTION.
OF DISCRETIONARY USAGE WAS THE. VERY LEAST THAT WE NEED TO PROPERLY TAKE ON AS PEOPLE. WHO REPRESENT A MUNICIPAL.
ADVANCEMENT PLAN THAT WAS GONE BY COUNCIL WHICH WAS.
THE RESULT OF EXHAUSTIVE.
PUBLIC INTERACTION WITH THE CITIZENS OF CALGARY. THIS IS A RUBBER HIT FOR THE.
ROAD POINT.I ' D BE SATISFIED TO ASSISTANCE IT.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'' S THE REALLY. LEAST WE CAN–'I BELIEVE IT ' S HMM THE REALLY THE VERY LEAST WE CANISTER DO,. DISCRETIONARY USAGE IS THE
VERY. LEAST WE CANISTER DO,'SO I ' LL> SUPPORT THIS.
> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANK. ON THE CHANGE,'ALDERMAN.
> > ON THE MODIFICATION I '
M A LITTLE WORRIED BY THE.'FREE-WHEELING SENSE I HAVE. RIGHT HERE OF HOW WE ' RE PROCEEDING THROUGH SOME RELATIVELY MAJOR. POLICY DECISIONS. I HAVE HEARD SPECIALISTS TELL US AND ALSO AT LPT FOR THAT ISSUE,.
SMART AND EXPERIENCED COORDINATORS.
IF WE ARE LOOKING AT DISCRETIONARY– AT SECONDARY, SAY.
SUITES, PERIOD, LET'' S LEAVE IT.
AT THAT FOR THE MOMENT. AT SECONDARY SUITES FOR.
REMEDIES FOR THICKNESS AROUND.
LRT AND VRT STATIONS, WE'' VE REALLY FIZZLED. THESE ARE NOT IDENTITY.
SERVICES. I'' VE HEARD MY PRECIOUS COLLEAGUES.
THIS NIGHT SAY THAT THIS IS
. AN AFFORDABILITY CONCERN, AND ALSO I'' M NOT SO SURE'IT ' S THAT.
THAT.BUT I ' M NOT EXACTLY SURE THAT ' S THE. POLICY EITHER.
I ' M FAMILIAR WITH THE MDP AS WELL AS OTHER FILES. THERE ARE A HOST OF INDIVIDUALS.
AS THEY GO INTO ESTABLISHED COMMUNITIES, WE '
RE PUBLICLYOPENLY WE ' RE RUSHING HEADLONG INTO THIS WITHOUT EVEN A HEADS UP.
TO A FEW OF OUR COMMUNITIES WHO.
HAVE A BETTER I BELIEVE THAT LONG THIS COULD BE ON THE.
HORIZON AS WELL AS ALL OF A SUDDEN.
WE'' RE ENTERTAINING AN CHANGE TO SUGGEST PERMITTED.
USAGE IN THESE AREAS. THIS IS SEVERAL STEPS PAST WHAT I THINK THE AREAS.
AND CERTAINLY MYSELF ARE.
COMFY WITH. ON THAT BASIS I WILL NOT BE.
SUSTAINING THE AMENDMENT. MURMUR >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANK.
YOU, QUANTITY POOTMANS. ANY INDIVIDUAL ELSE ON THE MODIFICATION? ALDERMAN PINCOTT, DO YOU WANT.
TO SHUT?
>> > > GRAB ONE WORD THAT ALDERMAN POOTMANS CLAIMED AS WELL AS HE STATED.
“” FORCE””. WE'' RE NOT FORCING ANYTHING.WE ' RE
NOT FORCING ANY PERSON TO. DO ANYTHING. WE'' RE EXPRESSION THAT WITHIN A RADIUS, WITHIN AN LOCATION, THAT. MAKES GOOD SENSE FROM OUR MDP ' S. PERSPECTIVE, THAT MAKES SENSE IF WE NEED TO APPEARANCE AT THE.
COST EFFECTIVE COMPONENT TO.
MAXIMIZE AFFORDABILITY, WE ARE OFFERING YOU, THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE.
WE'' RE PERMITTING YOU TO DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR BUILDING. WE'' RE NOT FORCING ANYONE TO
. AND ALSO I THINK THAT
IF WE ARE.
ALLOWED USAGE, WHICH, AS WE– ANYONE WHO HAS LOOKED AT THIS,.
VARIOUS OTHER DISTRICTS, OTHER.
JURISDICTIONS IN CANADA, PERMITTED USAGE IS WHERE ALMOST.
EVERYONE GETS TO. IT'' S IN WHICH– IT ' S WHAT YOU DO.
THEN THIS IS THE AREA TO. BEGINNING IS EXACTLY AROUND LRT AND VRT STATIONS.
EXACTLY AROUND THOSE MASS.
PUBLIC TRANSIT HUBS.SO WE ' RE NOT FORCING ANY PERSON. TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. WITH THIS CHANGE, WHAT WE'' RE PHRASE IS'WE ' RE.
PROVIDING– WE ' RE ALLOWING. IF THEY CHOOSE, INDIVIDUALS TO DO MATTERS. WE'' RE NOT FORCING ANY.
AREA TO ADJUSTMENT, ANYBODY TO CHANGE. I HOPE YOU DO SUPPORT THIS.
CHANGE. IF WE WANT TO, I BELIEVE IT IS–.
BE INCREMENTAL, LET US BE.
INCREMENTAL. LET US BE INCREMENTAL TOWARDS.
WHERE WE KNOW WE DEMAND TO GET.
TO, WHICH IS PERMITTED USE FOR SECONDARY SUITES. AND LET'' S BEGIN AROUND THE.
LOCATION THAT IT MAKES ONE OF THE MOST FEELING.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: ON THE.
MODIFICATION, SHUT ON THE AMENDMENT.
>> > > VIDEOTAPED VOTE ON THE.
AMENDMENT, YOUR WORSHIP, PLEASE.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: O.K.. ON THE AMENDMENT, THE AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY TO CHANGE.
WORDS DISCRETIONARY TO.
PERMITTED.THAT ' S THE ONLY POINT WE ' RE. VOTING ON NOW.
IN NUMBER 3, CHANGE THE WORD DISCRETIONARY TO PERMITTED IN.
NUMBER 3.
>> > > ON THE TAPE-RECORDED VOTE, ALDERMAN HODGES AGAINST,.
ALDERMAN FARRELL FOR, ALDERMAN.
CARRA FOR, ALDERMAN COLLEY-URQUHART AGAINST,.
ALDERMAN CHABOT AGAINST,.
ALDERMAN DEMONG AGAINST, ALDERMAN MacLEOD FOR, ALDERMAN.
LOWE AGAINST, ALDERMAN.
POOTMANS AGAINST, ALDERMAN STEVENSON AGAINST, ALDERMANMAN.
JONES AGAINST, ALDERMAN.
PINCOTT FOR, (INDISCERNIBLE) AGAINST.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANK.
YOU.BACK TO THE ACTIVITY ON THE.
FLOORING WHICH IS NUMBER 2 AND.
NUMBER 3 ON YOUR DISPLAY. I BELIEVE YOU CURRENTLY SPOKEN ON.
THIS– NO, YOU HAVEN'' T,. ALDERMAN LOWE, YOU ONLY SPOKE ON THE MODIFICATION.
> > I SPOKE TO> BOTH, YOUR. PRAYER. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I KNOW, BUT HE STILL HAS THE RIGHT. MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN LOWE. ALDERMAN POOTMANS, YOU '
VE ALREADY SPOKEN ON THE KEY. ACTIVITY, YOU STATED YOU DIDN ' T. LIKE IT.
>> ALDERMAN DEMONG. > > I WEAR'' T KNOW IF YOU ' RE. GOING TO CONSIDER THIS TO BE CONFLICTORY.
I WOULD LIKE NOT TO HAVE THE. BRT PROVIDED AS THERE, THE MAJORITY OF LAY TRANSITIONAL STAGE AT THIS.
POINT.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: SO MY PRACTICE ON THIS, ALDERMAN.
DEMONG, ALTHOUGH ALDERMAN.
CHABOT WILL CLAIM IT'' S NOT IN THE TREATMENT LAW, MY.
PRACTICE IS TO ASK THE MOVING COMPANY.
AND SECONDLY FER THEY FIND IT CONTRARY. ALDERMAN DEMONG IS.
RECOMMENDING AN MODIFICATION– I'' M NOT ASKING YOU TO ELECT YEA OR.
NAY. HE'' S WILLING TO REMOVE OR BRT FROM NUMBER 3 TO SO ALDERMAN.
CARRA AND ALDERMAN DEMONG,.
WOULD YOU FIND THAT CONTRARY TO YOUR ACTIVITY? WE'' LL CALL IT SEPARATELY. CALL THEM IN THREE SECTIONS, AFTER THAT.
> > POINT OF ORDER. ALDERMAN DEMONG, WE ' LL TELEPHONE CALL THEM INDIVIDUALLY. > > OK.
PROCEEDING ON, WE ARE OBTAINING FREE OF– IS IT IS A 2 AS WELL AS A. HALF KILOMETRE SPAN A. REALISTIC AREA TO HAVE THIS AS DISCRETIONARY? > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I WILL INFORM YOU, ALDERMAN DEMONG,. THAT NUMBER, AS WELL AS I WAS REALLY THINKING OF A 3.
MINUTE STROLL WHETHER I BELIEVE.
WHEN I ASSUMED THAT THAT WOULD MAKE, that WOULD MAKE SENSE–.
FEELING.
>> > > ALL RIGHT, THANKS. >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: ON THE.
ACTIVITY, ALDERMAN CHABOT? I DO JUST WONDER IF YOU'' RE GOING TO MAKE THE SAME.
SUGGESTION ON THIS AS YOU DID.
ON THE PREVIOUS ACTIVITY, IF I WERE TO SUGGEST THAT WE.
PROBABLY NEED TO CARRY OUT A.
CONSULTATIVE PROCESS ON– AROUND THIS ISSUECONCERN > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: NOT TRYING TO VAPOR ROLL YOU,.
ALDERMAN CHABOT, BUT IT IT'' S. COUNCIL ' S WILL CERTAINLY TO JUST PROGRESS RIGHT NOW
, THEN THERE ' S. NOT MUCH FACTOR. IF IT ' S NOT COUNCIL ' S WILL,
AFTER THAT I ' LL IDENTIFY YOU RIGHT. AWAY. AND YOU CAN PUT TO MOVE AHEAD ON A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. MOVEMENT, TO DIRECT. MANAGEMENT TO ENGAGE IN A CONSULTATIVE PROCESS AROUND,.
THEN JUST TRANSFORM 2 AND 3 INTO. BULLET POINTS.ALL RIGHT. ANY PERSON ELSE ON THIS ACTIVITY? >> ALDERMAN MIN COT>>? > >– ALDERMAN PINCOTT? > > THANK YOU. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANKS, ALDERMAN PINCOTT.
ALDERMAN PINCOTT SIMPLY LOOKED. OVER AS WELL AS STATED DON ' T YOU INTENDED TO DEBATE? I ' M COMFORTABLE WITH RELOCATING. ONWARD ON THESE TWO PARTICULAR MOVEMENTS.
I COMPREHEND THAT COUNCIL HAS. HAD A BIT OF A CONVERSATION AROUND THESE, BUT THESE TWO.
NUMBER 3 IS SIGNIFICANTLY COMPONENT OF.
THE MUNICIPAL GROWTH PLAN. AND ALSO THE CALGARY TRANSPORT PLAN, A MINIMUM OF IN MY OPINION. IT IS. THAT WE ' VE ALREADY PASSED. NUMBER 2 JUST MAKES GOOD SENSE. AND YOU KEEP IN MIND THAT ONE OF
. THE FACTORS THAT I'' VE BEEN RAISING THIS FOR SO VERY LONG.
IS SINCE I ACTUALLY, TRULY.
THINK THAT WE REQUIREMENT TO AFFORD PROTECTIONS TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO.
ARE LIVING IN THE ILLEGAL.
COLLECTIONS. SOMEONE TIME AGO TALKED.
ABOUT A CARROT AND STICK.
APPROACH, I BELIEVE IT WAS ALDERMAN DEMONG. THE PROBLEM WITH THE CIRCUMSTANCE.
WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE NO CARROT. WE ONLY HAVE A STICK. AND THE STICK WE HAVE TO USAGE COINCIDES STICK FOR.
EVERYONE. SO ALDERMAN CHABOT AND ALSO I WERE SPEAKING UP OVER DINNER AND.
WE WERE SAYING THAT IN THE.
NEIGHBOURHOOD IN WHICH HE LIVES AND IN WHICH I MATURED,.
THE MAJORITY OF THE PROHIBITED SUITES ARE.
FINE.THEY '
RE DECENT PLACES TO LIVE. IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS,.
THEY'' RE NOT. IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN HIS.
WARD THEY'' RE NOT. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. THE TROUBLE IS RIGHT SINCE.
WE ONLY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO.
TREAT THEM EXACTLY THE SAME. THE REAL FIRE PIT VERSUS THE.
ACTUALLY COMPLETELY GOOD LOCATION.
TO COPE WITH THE GOOD PROPERTY MANAGER. WHAT THIS PERMITS United States TO ACCOMPLISH IN.
THOSE AREAS PARTICULARLY AROUND THE COLLEGES WHERE.
WE KNOW THERE ARE LARGE.
CONCENTRATION OF ILLEGAL SUITES IS IT ACTUALLY GIVES.
US WITH A CARROT BECAUSE THEN.
WE CAN GO TO THE PROPRIETOR AS WELL AS SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO.
RELOCATE TO CONFORMITY RATHER.
OF CLAIMING TAKE THOSE– KICK THOSE TRAINEES OUT. THAT'' S REALLY WHAT THIS
IS ALL. ABOUT.AND I WOULD– I WOULD. UNDERSTAND CERTAINLY IF.
COUNCIL WANTED TO THINK MORE CONCERNING THIS ONE BUT I ASSUME WE.
THOUGHT THROUGH THIS QUITE.
WELL. WE'' VE HAD SOME GREAT INPUT. FROM THE STUDENTS ASSOCIATIONS.
OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS REGARDING THIS. THEY STRONGLY REMAIN IN FAVOUR.
DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT SAFEGUARDS THEIR MEMBERS. AND I THINK THAT TODAY WE'' RE. PREPARED TO PROCEED THIS SET AND ALSO I WOULD URGE COUNCIL TO GO. AHEAD AS WELL AS MOVE ON THESE TWO. THANK YOU. >> > > THANKS. O.K.. WE ' RE GOING TO HAVE REQUESTS FOR A TAPE-RECORDED BALLOT. THREE? SO THANK YOU. A TAPE-RECORDED VOTE,
NEN, ON. NUMBER 2 THAT IS PRIOR TO United States>. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THE UNIVERSITIES FIRST.
>> > > I ASK FORGIVENESS. ALDERMAN CARRA. THANK YOU, CONSIDER IT.
CLOSED. VIDEOTAPED VOTE ON NUMBER 2.
>> > > ON THE VIDEOTAPED VOTE,.
ALDERMAN HODGES AGAINST, ALDERMAN FARRELL FOR, ALDERMAN.
CARRA FOR, ALDERMAN.
COLLEY-URQUHART AGAINST, ALDERMAN CHABOT AGAINST,.
ALDERMAN DEMONG AGAINST,.
ALDERMAN MacLEOD FOR, ALDERMAN LOWE AGAINST, ALDERMAN.
POOTMANS AGAINST, ALDERMAN.
STEVENSON AGAINST, ALDERMAN JONES FOR, MAYOR NENSHI FOR,.
> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LRT STATION. WITHOUT THE LAST THREE.
WORDS. TAPE-RECORDED BALLOT, PLEASE.
>> > > ON THE RECORDED VOTE,.
ALDERMAN HODGES AGAINST, ALDERMAN FARRELL FOR, ALDERMAN.
CARRA FOR, ALDERMAN.
COLLEY-URQUHART AGAINST, ALDERMAN CHABOT AGAINST,.
ALDERMAN DEMONG AGAINST,.
ALDERMAN MacLEOD FOR, ALDERMAN LOWE AGAINST, ALDERMAN.
POOTMANS AGAINST, ALDERMAN.
STEVENSON AGAINST, ALDERMAN JONES FOR, MAYOR NENSHI FOR. ACTING MAYOR PINCOTT FOR.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: KEEPING THAT, THERE IS NO POINT IN.
VOTING FOR THE LAST ONE.
>> > > WELL, NO, THERE STILL IS. >> > >'IT ' S THEE WORDS NOT HANGING.
ON ANYTHING.– IT ' S THREE WORDS NOT HANGING ON ANYTHING.
>> > > YOU ' RE ACTUALLY. OKAY. THEY ACTUALLY DO PRESUME THE.
PREAMBLE. ALDERMAN CHABOT. >> > > AS ANTICIPATED MOST LIKELY, YOUR.
PRAISE, I HAVE AN ALTERNATE.
SUGGESTED MOTION, WHICH IS– I'' VE GOT IT PARTIALLY CREATED.
OUT WHICH IS DIRECT.
ADMINISTRATION TO TAKE ON A CONSULTATIVE PROCEDURE TO.
CONSIDER REZONING R1, RC 1, RC.
1 L, TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE LAND USAGE BYLAW TO ADD.
SECONDARY SUITES AS.
DISCRETIONARY USE WITHIN 2.5 KILOMETRE DISTANCES OF MOUNT.
IMPERIAL COLLEGE, SAIT, BOW.
VALLEY UNIVERSITY, AND UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY, AS WELL AS I ASK YOURSELF IF WE.
CANISTER UNDERTAKE A SIMILAR.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 3–.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I.
THINK WHAT WE CONTAINER PROBABLY DO, ALDERMAN CHABOT, IS TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT.
YOU JUST SAID AS THE.
PRE-AMBLING AS WELL AS THEN JUST SHOW WHAT CURRENTLY 2 AND 3 IS THE.
FACTORS UNDERNEATH. MAKE SENSE? >> > > YEAH. IF THAT'' S CLEAR ENOUGH FOR THE
.
CLERK.IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH?
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: DO YOU.
WISH TO READ IT ONE EVEN MORE TIME, THE PRELUDE.
>> > > DIRECT MANAGEMENT TO.
CARRY OUT A CONSULTATIVE PROCEDURE TO CONSIDER REZONING.
R1, RC 1, RC 1 L, TO CONSIDER.
CHANGING THE LAND USE BYLAW TO ADD SECONDARY SUITES AS A.
DISCRETIONARY USAGE WITHIN 2.5.
KILOMETRE DISTANCES OF MOUNT ROYAL, UNIVERSITY, S AEUFPLT T,.
BOW VALLEY KHEPBLG, TAKE A LOOK AT.
UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY, AND SAME PREAMBLE TO ADD SECONDARY.
SUITES TO DISCRETIONARY USE.
WITHIN 400 METRES OF LRT TERMINAL OR BRT QUITS.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: VERY.
ELEGANT.THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE A SECONDER FOR.
THAT, PLEASE? TO PERFORM A PUBLIC CONSULTATION.
PROCESS ON THOSE 2 THINGS. ALDERMAN DEMONG? ALL. ANY CONVERSATION ON THIS? ALDERMAN LOWE? >> > >'IT ' S GETTING BETTER. THE PUBLIC EXAMINATION.
PROCEDURE. I'' D BE HAPPIER IF IT WAS A.
AREA BY COMMUNITY PUBLIC.
APPOINTMENT PROCESS. TO DISCOVER OPTIONS. SO I'' LL PUT THAT AMENDMENT TO. THIS AND ALSO TO REPORT BACK TO LBT BY FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I'' M. SIMPLY WAITING UNTIL WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL MOTION ON THE SCREEN.
AND AFTERWARDS WE'' LL APPEARANCE AT YOUR. >> MODIFICATION,> OKAY. > > SURE. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: NO. TROUBLE. MUSIC INTERMISSION, ANYBODY? ALDERMAN PINCOTT? LITTLE TUNE AND DANCE? , if I REALLY DESIRED A SONG AND.
.
DANCE I WOULD HAVE CONTACTED.
ALDERMAN CARRA. WHILE WE'' RE WAITING FOR IT TO.
TAKE PLACE THE DISPLAY, ALDERMAN.
LOWE, LET ME JUST, SO I UNDERSTAND, YOUR INTENT IS TO.
DO A NEIGHBORHOOD BY AREA
. APPOINTMENT ON THESE 2 CONCERNS?
>> > > ON THESE TWO CONCERNS OF THE.
INFLUENCED COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE RADIUSS DESCRIBED. > > AS WELL AS THE VARIOUS OTHER THING IS TO. IT WILL CERTAINLY COST A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF CASH, AND I WOULD.
SUGGEST THAT THIS WOULD BE A.
WORTHY CANDIDATE FOR THE INGENIOUS FUND.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I.
DON'' T KNOW WHY
Mr.TILL BERT FINDS THAT SO AMUSING. BUT–.
>> > > ALSO, YOUR PRAYER– >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THE.
MONEY WOULD NEED TO COME.
INDIVIDUALLY SINCE WE DON'' T HAVE REQUISITES OF REFERRAL FOR THE.
ADVANCEMENT FUND.
>> > > I APPRECIATE THAT, YOUR PRAYER. IT'' S FUNCTION THAT COULD
BE. CARRIED OUT BY SPECIALISTS. JUST A THOUGHT. WHILE I'' M STANDING RIGHT HERE ON MY. FEET. I DO YOUR PRAISE,
I JUST HAVE.
An INQUIRY IN CONNECTION WITH WE'. JUST STATED THAT WE ' RE GOING TO DO A BLANKET PLAN AS WELL AS RECORD.
BACK IN DECEMBER. SO SHOULDN'' T THIS COME EITHER BEFORE OR IN DECEMBER TOO.
IF IT COMES IN, since.
FEBRUARY AND WE'' VE ALREADY DECIDED TO DO IT THE VARIOUS OTHER METHOD.
FOREHEAD. > > DO WE HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL.
> > WE WILL CERTAINLY ORGANIZE THAT OUT OF THE FUND. Mr.WATSON DOESN ' T HAVE THE.
I RECOGNIZE THAT. WE DO– WE DID DEVELOP AN.
TECHNOLOGY FUND, INNOVATIVE USE, INNOVATIVE LAND USE. I THINK IT'' S APPROPRIATE THAT. BE CONSIDER IT THAT WHICH. IF WE'' RE SERIOUS ABOUT IT,.
WE'' LL SPEND THE CASH ON IT.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: ALDERMAN LOWE, Mr. TOBERT IS.
WHISPERING IN MY EAR THAT HE.
WOULD MUCH PREFER TO BE AEULTS BRING A RECORD BACK AS WELL AS.
FIGURE OUT WHAT THE EXPENSE WOULD.
APPEAR LIKE IN TERMS OF RELOCATING AHEAD.
>> > > THAT ' S EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD.
WISH TO DO.
( INDISCERNIBLE) INSTRUCTIONS RIGHT HERE.
REGARDLESS OF LOGIC AND ALSO.
REASON. I HAVE NO TROUBLE ASKING.
Mr. WATSON OR Mr. TOBERT TO.
SCOPE THIS PROJECT AND ALSO BRING United States A BUDGET. HOW QUICKLY CONTAINER DO YOU THAT,.
Mr. TOBERT? >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: HE.
SAYS AT LEAST A MONTH.
>> > > THEN WE CANISTER DO THAT A MONTH FROM CURRENTLY. I THINK MY FACTOR, YOUR PRAYER,.
IS THERE'' S TWO POINTS RIGHT HERE. COMMUNITY BY NEIGHBORHOOD.
EXAMINATION AND OPTIONS FOR.
DOING IT. >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I HAVE.
AN SUGGESTION.
>> > > YOU ' RE REFERRING THIS? >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I HAVE.
AN CONCEPT. ALDERMAN CHABOT HAS HAD An ACTIVITY ON THE FLOORING TO DIRECT.
ADMINISTRATION TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. YOU RIGHT THIS MINUTE, WHILE YOU'' RE STANDING, INSTEAD OF.
MOVE YOUR MODIFICATION, COULD SAY.
REFER THIS TO THE APRIL LPT FOR A SCOPING REPORT OUTLINING.
EXPENSES ON A NEIGHBORHOOD BY.
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSESSMENT.
>> IF THAT GETS US OUT OF THIS, > >.
BIND, I WILL DO THAT, YOUR.
PRAYER. >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: DO WE.
HAVE A SECONDER? THANK YOU, ALDERMAN JONES. WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF United States.
NOW IS A REFERRAL ACTIVITY.
IT'' S EXCELLENT THAT WE CAN ALL. LAUGH TOGETHER AFTER WHAT WE'' VE BEEN THROUGH TODAY.
MOW IS A RECOMMENDATION ACTIVITY RELOCATED BY ALDERMAN LOWE,.
SECONDED BY ALDERMAN JONES TO.
REFER ALDERMAN CHABOT'' S ACTIVITY TO THE APRIL CONFERENCE OF LPT.
WITH SOME COSTING AROUND THE.
AREA BY NEIGHBORHOOD EXAMINATION. SOUND GOOD?
>> > > FINE-TUNE THIS A BIT EQUALLY AS I REFER BACK TO THE.
MANAGEMENT FOR A RECORD TO.
THE– >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANK.
WANT TO CLOSE, ALDERMAN LOWE? YOU'' RE TURNING YOURSELF ON AND.
OFF. ALLOW ME TO TRY FROM HERE.
>> >'> I ' M EQUALLY AS CHALLENGED WITH.
THE REFERENCE AS I WAS WITH THE.
MOTION. TO DO A LARGE RANGE AREA.
CONSULTATION, TO EVEN SCOPE IT.
AROUND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A DISCRETIONARY USAGE, SO AROUND.
SOMETHING THEN THAT WOULD.
ALWAYS INVOLVE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSULTATION AT THE END OF THE.
DAY ON EACH AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON.
APPLICATION FEELS LIKE, FEELS LIKE, HUGE WORKOUT IN A.
GREAT DEAL OF WORK AND A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY.
THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ASSESSMENT AND ALSO WE CHOOSE TO.
DO THIS AS DISCRETIONARY USE BASED ON 2 AND ALSO 3, EACH INDIVIDUAL.
APPLICATION WILL AFTER THAT ENTAIL.
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSESSMENTS AS WELL AS ADVANCEMENT PERMITS DO INVOLVE.
COMMUNITY INPUT. I'' M– WE ' RE TOSSING SERVICE TOP OF WORK, AS WELL AS THE– EACH.
STACK OF WORK IS ACQUIRING BIGGER. FOR THAT REASON, I THINK THAT I WON'' T SUPPORT THE. RECOMMENDATION AND ALSO'I WON ' T SUPPORT.
THE ACTIVITY EITHER.YOU KNOW WHAT, IF
WE WERE. GOING TO DO IT AROUND. PERMITTED USAGE, I ' D BE ALL OVER IT.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANKS,.
ALDERMAN PINCOTT. ON THE REFERENCE MOVEMENT,.
> > I THINK A RECOMMENDATION ACTIVITY IS PROBABLY An EXCELLENT IDEA. IT'' S GOING TO HAVE SOME PRICE. IF WE'' RE GOING TO DO THIS.
DOING IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD BY.
AREA BASIS. IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE.
HAVE SO LOTS LRT STATIONS AS WELL AS.
BRT STATIONS THAT RESIDE IN MANY VARIOUS AREAS.
THAT I CAN'' T HELP BUT IMAGINE.
MY COMMUNITIES WOULD WISH TO WEIGH IN ON THE DISCUSSION OF.
HAVING OUR ONE RC 1 ESTABLISHED.
WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE LRT STATIONS, IF IT WERE GOING.
TO BE ALLOWED, WHERE IT'' S.
CURRENTLY FOR THE ALLOWED.THIS IS ESSENTIALLY PROVIDINGGIVING S CLASSIFICATION TO ALL OF THOSE. NEIGHBORHOOD CONSULTATIVE PROCEDURE, IS ACTUALLY NOT TOTALLY.
> > THANK YOU. > > I ASK FORGIVENESS. > > YOU ' RE ACTUALLY. > > YEAH. > > ALSO, YOUR WORSHIP– >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THE.when YOU APPLY FOR An ADVANCEMENT AUTHORIZATION APPLICATION
GREAT DEAL WIDTH REQUIREMENTS, YOU'' RE. ARGUMENT OF I PUT ON'' T WANT IT. NEXT DOOR TO ME SIMPLY WON'' T FLY.
LOCAL DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY LOOKING AT SENSITIVE.
INCREASE, OFFERING IT.
WHERE IT MAKES THE THE MAJORITY OF FEELING TO PERFORM IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK.
> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANKS,
. I ' VE GOT– I ' M SIMPLY GOING TO. > > NO.
> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI:. ALDERMAN HODGES? > > YES.
YOUR PRAISE, MEMBERS OF
. COUNCIL, THE REGARDS TO. RECOMMENDATION ARE VITAL.
HOPEFULLY A RECORD CONTAINER BE.
READY FOR THE APRIL LPT. MEETING.
I ' LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE SOME.
FURTHER REMARKS CONCERNING WHAT. KIND OF AS LONG AS Mr. WATSON MAY GRIT HIS TEETH, REGARDING WHAT.
KIND OF– WHAT KIND OR WHAT. IT WOULD BE THE'BEST ROUTE TO GO IF YOU ' RE GOING TO GO THE. CONSULTING ROUTE. I RECOGNIZE THAT Mr. WATSON HAS A TACTICAL GET IN THE.
DIVISION. SO I'' M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT EXPENSE AS ABOUT HOW THE CASH IS.
SPENT. SO WE CANISTER GET INTO THAT AT THE APRIL LPT.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI:– I.
DON'' T THINK YOU INTENDED MEANT. ALDERMAN CARRA.
>> > > THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL'. I ' M GOING TO AGREE WITH. ALDERMAN PINCOTT ON THIS. I BELIEVE IF WE ' RE COSTS TIME. AND RESOURCES ON NEIGHBORHOOD BY.
COMMUNITY APPOINTMENT, WE OUGHT TO BE TALKING ABOUT.
OVERARCHING NEIGHBOURHOOD.
TRANSFORM OVER.WE NEEDS TO NOT
BE TALKING ABOUT.
SIMPLY FOR THE TIME BEING.
STEP-BY-STEP NO BRAINER OF ALLOWING SECONDARY SUITES. SECONDARY SUITES ARE JUST ONE.
PART OF A KPEPB COMPREHENSIVE MAKEOVER THAT HAS TO.
TAKE PLACE WITHIN 400 METRES OF.
TRANSPORTATION QUITS. THE TIMING OF THAT, COMPLETION.
LOOK, EVERY ONE OF THAT, UNLESS.
WE'' RE DOING ASSESSMENT AND LAYOUT FUNCTION IN THE DIRECTION OF THAT END,.
I WEAR'' T THINK
I DON ' T– I. DON ' T SEE THE POINT IN HANGING OUT OR RESOURCES. SO I WON'' T BE SUSTAINING THAT. REFERRAL MOTION.
I ASSUME IT'' S A WASTE OF. EVERYBODY ' S TIME. > > YES, THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE.
LEARN EVEN MORE CONCERNING THE RAMIFICATIONS OF WHAT IS A. PROFOUND ADJUSTMENT TO THE ZONING. WE ' RE SPEAKING OF IS FORCING A. POLICY.POLICY WHICH CANISTER HAVE PROFOUND. INFLUENCES ON THE AREAS '.
LIVEABILITY FOR ALL STAKEHOLDERS. IT HAS RAMIFICATIONS TO THE.
LOOK AND ALSO THE FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ALSO I THINK ANYTHING LESS THAN.
An AREA BY COMMUNITY EXAMINATION WILL BE.
UNSATISFACTORY. THE IMPACTS OF AN LRT TERMINAL ON A GLENDALE WILL BE.
DIFFERENT THAN THE LRT IMPACTS.
ON A CHRISTIE OR AN ASPEN. I BELIEVE ALL OF THESE AREAS.
ARE ENTITLED TO A NEIGHBORHOOD BY.
COMMUNITY APPOINTMENT, AND THEY MAY WELCOME UP WITH.
DIFFERENT SERVICES AND ALSO.
DIFFERENT CONCEPTS ON A COMMUNITY BY AREA BASIS. SO I HEARTILY SUPPORT THIS.
REFERENCE. THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANKS,.
ALDERMAN POOTMANS. HELPFUL FOR YOU FOR BEING FORWARD.
THINKING WHEN YOU SAID THE LRT.
TERMINAL ON GLENDALE. I NEEDED TO CONSIDER THAT FOR.
A SECONDLY.
17th Opportunity AND 45th STREET. > > THANK YOU. WELL, LIKE ALDERMAN PINCOTT.
AND CARRA BEFORE ME, I'' M NOT GOING TO ASSISTANCE THIS. THIS IS A MASSIVE BODY OF WORK. AND I'' M SORRY IF IT DOESN ' T FEELING GENUINE. THIS ADVISES ME A LITTLE LITTLE BIT.
OF THE SMOKING BYLAW.I DON ' T KNOW IF YOU'GUYS.
REMEMBER IT. WE DID OBTAIN THERE EVENTUALLY.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: CONTAINER WE.
PLEASE PHONE CALL IT THE NO SMOKING STPWHRAU.
>> > > THE NO CIGARETTE SMOKING LAW. IF WE CONTAINER'' T HANDLE TO MAKE THESE PERMITTED OR PERHAPS.
WHEN, DISCRETIONARY AROUND LRT.
IT FITS WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'' VE– ALL OF OUR CITY
. POLICIES IN THE BRAND-NEW MDP AND ALSO.
PLANET AS WELL AS FAIR CALGARY AND ALL THAT, THEN I SIMPLY WEAR'' T. THINK WE ' RE READY. I WON ' T BE SUSTAINING IT AS WELL AS I ' VE HEARD THE USAGE OF THE. INNOVATION FUNDS TO FUND THIS. LARGE BODY OF WORK.THIS ISN ' T INNOVATION,
.
>> COUNCIL. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: MANY THANKS, ALDERMAN FARRELL. ANY INDIVIDUAL ELSE ON THE REFERENCE. ACTIVITY? ON THE ACTIVITY TO REFER,.
— OH, DID YOU WANT TO. CLOSE, ALDERMAN LOWE? OK.
ON THE RECOMMENDATION MOTION, THIS. IS TO REFER THIS TO LPT IN APRIL FOR A SCOPING. ARE WE AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? CALL THE FUNCTION, PLEASE.
>> > > ALDERMAN LOWE? INDEED >>. > > ALDERMAN MacLEOD>>? > >
>> NO. > > ALDERMAN PINCOTT? >> > NO
>>. > > ALDERMAN POOTMANS>>? >
>> > YES. > > ALDERMAN STEEN KID?
>> > > YES>>. > > ALDERMAN CARRA >>? > >
>> NO. > > ALDERMAN CHABOT? >> > YES >>. > > ALDERMAN COLLEY-URQUHART>>.
>> > > YES. > > ALDERMAN >> DEMONG? > > YES. > >> ALDERMAN FARRELL?
>> > > NO >>. > > ALDERMAN HODGES 134.
>> > > YES>>. > > ALDERMAN JONES >>? > > YES. > >> MAYOR NENSHI ISSHY?
>> > > NO >>. > > LUGGED, YOUR PRAYER
>>. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: ALL
. RIGHT. I BELIEVE, LADIES AS WELL AS GENTLEMEN,. WE MAY BE DONE WITH 10.3.4. NO IS A RECOMMENDATION MOTION. IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION MOVEMENT. ANYMORE MOTIONS OCCURRING ON.
10.3.4? >> >'> I ' D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
TO SUBMIT >> A RECOMMENDATIONS OF.
LPT– > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: YOU.
ONLY HAVE TO, ALDERMAN CHABOT,. SINCE AMONG THE MOTIONS WE– ONE OF THE MOVEMENTS WE.
> > OKAY.DARN, I WAS HOPING TO FILE IT. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I RECOGNIZE. YOU WERE LOOKING ONWARD TO IT.
ANY OTHER MOVEMENTS OCCUR. ONGOING 10. HE.3.4? OKAY. 10.4.1, PROGRESSION IN THE DIRECTION OF 8020. BY 2020 IN THE RESIDENTIAL SECTOR, THE UNE REPORTS. ALDERMAN JONES.
>> > > YOUR PRAYER,'I ' LL ACTION ALL THE REPORTS, THERE WAS ONE. PRESENTATION DONE THAT.
BASICALLY (INDISCERNIBLE) WE HAD A BUSINESS CAN BE FOUND IN THAT.
OFFERED US SOME OPTION WHICH.
WAS HENCE GIVES YOU THE DIRECTION ON NUMBER 4, TO.
CONSIST OF IN THE RECORD OTHER.
METHODS OF ALTERNATE IDEAS THAT EXISTED TO CONSIDER.
HOW WE CANISTER DO WASTE.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: WAS THERE DISCUSSION AT THE.
BOARD IF THOSE.
CHOICES CONSISTED OF THE WASTE TO POWER THINGS THAT'' S. IN THE RECORD? >
>> > YEAH. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI
: THANK. YOU. DO I HAVE A SECONDER FOR THAT? THANKS, ALDERMAN PINCOTT. SO WE ' RE GOING TO MOVE–. REMEMBER THERE ' S 2 CURRENTLY.
SO 10.4.1 AND THE ONE THAT WE.
GOTTEN RID OF FROM THE GENERAL DID. WHICH WAS 10.4. ON MULTIFAMILY RECYCLING. QUESTIONS,'CONVERSATION ON. 10.4.1? OH, I ' LL DO IT. Mr. PRITCHARD, WASTE ENERGY. I WAS A LITTLE BIT PERPLEXED BY THE REPORT, TO BE FRANK. IT APPEARED TO DISREGARD A WHOLE LOT OF. WHAT ' S HAPPENING ON WASTE POWER A LITTLE BIT OUT OF CONTROL.
AM I READING EXCESSIVE INTO IT? > > THANKS, PUT ON SHIM.ACTUALLY WE SPENT 18 MONTHS. AS WELL AS CREATED A 750 WEB PAGE REPORT,.
YOUR PRAYER, THAT ACTUALLY CHECKED OUT, AMONGST OTHER.
THINGS, WASTE TO ENERGY AND.
THE OPTION APPROACHES TO TAKING CARE OF ORGANICS SO WE.
STARTED WITH THE–.
LOOKING AT COMPOSITING AND AFTER THAT WE CONSIDERED A VARIETY OF.
OTHER INNOVATIONS AND ALL THE.
MEANS APPROXIMATELY ONE OF THE MOST ADVANCED WASTE TO ENERGY INNOVATIONS.
AS WELL AS THE SUGGESTION THAT.
CAME FROM THE EXPERT AFTERWARDS RESEARCH STUDY WAS THAT THERE IS A.
PLACE FOR WASTE TO POWER AND.
THERE'' S A TIME FOR IT, BUT THE MOST BASIC AND MANY PRACTICAL.
MEANS TO HANDLE THE INITIAL.
PROBLEM OF LAWN WASTE AND ALSO FOOD THROW AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL IS.
ACTUALLY TO GO WITH THE EASY.
COMPOSTING COURSE, AND AFTER THAT BY THE TIME WE GET TO TYPE OF 75%.
DIVERSION, THAT'' S THE TIME WE. WOULD START LOOKING AT THE WASTE TO ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES. BY THAT TIME, OUT OF THE TYPE.
OF UNTRIED AND ALSO EVALUATED TECHNOLOGIES WILL CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN.
AROUND AWHILE LONGER AND ALSO.
WILL CERTAINLY HAVE A MUCH BETTER RECORD OF KNOWING HOW THEY.
PERFORM AND SO FORTH.
0 IT'' S QUITE A THOUGHT– WELL IDEA OUT APPROACH, YOUR.
PRAYER, IN
>> TERMS OF THE.
PROPOSITIONS. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THAT.
HEAR, Mr. PRITCHARD, THANK YOU. > > ANSWERED as well as asked RIGHT THERE.
> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANK. YOU. ALDERMAN HODGES? NEXT ITEM. ANYTHING MORE ON THIS SET?
ON THE COMMITTEE ' S. RECOMMENDATIONS– DID YOU. WANT TO CLOSE, ALDERMAN JONES? ON THE COMMITTEE ' S. RECOMMENDATIONS, ARE WE. AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? ALDERMAN CHABOT IS OPPOSED.
LUGGED. 10.4.2, WHICH IS THE ONE WE.
TOOK OFF THE DISADVANTAGE SENSE AGENDA. ON MULTIFAMILY RECYCLING, ALDERMAN– IT ' S ALREADY BEEN. RELOCATED AS WELL AS SECONDED SO ALDERMAN.
> > YES, THANKS, YOUR PRAYER. Mr. PRITCHARD, THIS ISN ' T A.
COMMITTEE MEETINGCONFERENCE HAPPENED TO.
BE AT I CAPTURED A FEW OF IT ON CLOSED CIRCUIT COVERAGE WE.
HAVE IN THE STRUCTURE NEXT DOOR,.
AS WELL AS THERE'' S A LITTLE BIT EVEN MORE QUESTIONS.'I ' M FINDING,
ANYHOW, FROM. CONDO– MULTIFAMILY BUT CONDO ADVANCEMENT IN WHICH.
THEY HAVE NO RECYCLING SERVICE.
WHATEVER FROM ANY– EITHER PRIVATE COMPANY OR I GATHER.
WITH THE REGULATIONS THE MEANS THEY.
ARE FROM THE CITY.SO TO OPEN THIS UP TO, YOU.
MAY SAY, SOME CITY OF.
CALGARY SOLUTIONS, THIS WOULD REQUIRE AN CHANGE TO THE.
POLICY WE HAVE AT THE PRESENT.
TIME, EASY and also plain. >> > > THAT ' S CORRECT, YOUR
. PRAYER. THE PRESENT DIRECTION WE HAVE IS THAT THE CITY DOES NOT OBTAIN.
ASSOCIATED WITH MULTIFAMILY.
RECYCLING UNTIL IT'' S NOTICEABLE THAT WE'' RE NOT GOING TO. ATTAIN OUR A G-20 OBJECTIVE BY.
2020 AND ALSO THAT'' S NOT THE SITUATION AT THE MINUTE. SO COMPLYING KEEPING THAT.
DIRECTION WE WOULD WAIT AND ALSO I ASSUME THE METHOD THAT WE.
HAVE HERE ONCE MORE IS QUITE WELL.
ESTABLISHED IN REGARDS TO HAVING THE ABILITY TO INVEST A BIT OF.
TIME REALLY WORKING A LOT EVEN MORE.
WITH THE INDUSTRY, THE PRIVATE RECYCLERS, LOOKING AT WHAT.
MAYBE THE CITY'' S POSITION.
MAY BE INEVITABLY AND AFTERWARDS RETURNING WITH A FULL PLAN.
FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IN THE.
2015 TO 17 COMPANY CYCLE.
>> > > A PAIR OF YEARS OUT. I CAN SEEK THIS DISCUSSION. WITH YOU OFF LINE. THANK YOU. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI
: ALITY. CHABOT >>? > > MANY THANKS. Mr. PRITCHARD, IN WHICH ARE WE AT.
WITH REGARDS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF THESE PRIVATE.
COMPANIES DEPOSITING.
MATERIAL DIRECTLY TO THE (INDISCERNIBLE) CENTER OR.
HOW ARE WE FACILITATING THAT?
>> > > THE ARRANGEMENT WE'' VE MADE PRESENTLY IS TO PROMOTE. THAT BY HAVING A DROP-OFF.
TERMINAL AT OUR GUARD LANDFILL TO ENSURE THAT THE PRIVATE.
RECYCLERS CANISTER COME TO OUR.
CENTER AT OUR GARBAGE DUMP AND DROP IT OFF THERE, THEN WE.
TAKE IT IN OUR TRUCKS TO THE.
MULTI– TO THE MURFP, THE MATERIALS RECYCLING CENTER. I DO SO THEY PAY A REQUIREMENT.
> > THEY PAY– I ASSUME IT'' S. $ 32 A TONNE, TO BE ABLE TO. DROP IT OFF AT OUR FACILITY
.
BASICALLY OPERATING THAT. CENTER AS WELL AS OBTAINING THE RECYCLABLES TO THE MRF. IT DOESN'' T COVER THE EXPENSES OF. THE PROCESSING FEE AT THE MRF.SO IT'' S JUST COVERING OUR.
COSTS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. IT WOULD PROBABLY TOTAL UP TO 20 OR 30 CENTS PER CLIENT PER.
> > IT ' S 120 OR SO PER TONNE. > > TO GET RID OF OF WASTE IN THE.
LAND FILL IS $95 A TONNE.
CURRENTLY. >> > > STILL UNDER A HUNDRED.
DOLLARS. OK. THANKS. I HAVE– HOPING TO PERFORM SOME.
ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES SPECIFICALLY CONNECTED TO THAT.
ISSUE. THANK YOU. >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: MANY THANKS,.
ALDERMAN CHABOT. > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAYER.
ALDERMAN HODGES' ' INQUIRY, WHEN I RELOCATED THE MOVEMENT BACK. TWO AND ALSO A FIFTY PERCENT YEARS AGO TO DO.
THIS TO LEAVE THE MULTIFAMILY OPEN TO THE ECONOMIC SECTOR, AT.
THAT EXACT SAME TIME THE– A PART.
OF THAT DIRECTION WAS FOR THE– OUR ADMINISTRATION TO.
FUNCTION AT OBTAINING ACCESS FOR.
THOSE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS TO THE MRF. THAT HASN'' T– IT HASN ' T. HAPPENED UNTIL SIMPLY IN DECEMBER, THE PRIVATE.
SPECIALISTS WERE BROUGHT.
WITH EACH OTHER AND AFTERWARDS IN JANUARY THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DUMPTY.
TRANSFER SITE. IT'' S JUST CURRENTLY, AS OF 2011, THAT THE EXCLUSIVE SPECIALISTS. CONTAINER ACTUALLY BEGIN AT THIS. THEREFORE I ASSUME YOU'' RE GOING TO SEE QUITE AN UPTICK ON THIS.
DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF.
PRESSURE FROM CONDO ASSOCIATIONS TO FIND An APPROACH.
OF RELOCATING THEIR RECYCLABLES,.
SO I BELIEVE YOU'' RE GOING TO SEE EVEN MORE OF THAT CURRENTLY THAT THERE ' S. SOME ACTION TAKEN ON IT. I ' M NOT PLEASED WITH THE ACTION BECAUSE I '
M NOT DELIGHTED WITH THE. REALITY THAT THESE PRIVATE
. SPECIALISTS ARE UNABLE TO TAKE THE– THEIR
RECYCLABLES. STRAIGHT TO THE MRF, BUT AT. LEAST WASTE AS WELL AS RECYCLING HAS COLLECTION UP THIS TRANSFER FROM.
SHEPPARD EXCUSE WHICH IS GOOD.
FOR THE MEANTIMES AND THEY'' RE STILL GOING TO MAINTAIN FUNCTION.
RECURRING OBTAINING IT SET UP AT.
THE MRF.THANK YOU,
YOUR WORSHIP.
>> > > I STILL THINK WE SHOULD.
HAVE CALLED IT THE SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS RECYCLING CENTER.
WE CANISTER PHONE CALL IT THE SMURF. > > THANK YOU. Mr. PRITCHARD, I'' M AFRAID I MISSED THIS MEETING.
TO ENSURE THAT PRIVATE RECYCLERS CANISTER DROP OFF MATERIALS, IN.
CONSULTATION WITH THE SECTOR,.
HOW MUCH UPTAKE DO WE THINK WE'' RE GOING TO GET OR JUST HOW MUCH.
DO YOU THINK WE CANISTER ANTICIPATE.
OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS? >> > > I THINK WE WERE QUITE
. SURPRISED TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE,.
MULTIFAMILY CENTERS, ALREADY HAVE RECYCLING AND.
WE'' RE SIMPLY STARTING TO FIND.
OUT INCREASINGLY MORE ABOUT WHO'' S DOING WHAT AVAILABLE. COMPONENT OF THE CHALLENGE IS, IS.
THAT THE SIGNIFICANT DIVERSITY OF OBVIOUSLY HOUSING AND.
APARTMENT TYPES THAT FALL UNDER.
THE MULTIFAMILY SECTOR, SO THERE'' S NOT REALLY A STRAIGHTFORWARD. SOLUTION TO ANY SPECIFIC ONE,.
ONE REAL ESTATE TYPE.AND SOME RECYCLERS PREFER TO. GRAB SIMPLY FIBER.
SOME DON ' T PREFER TO BE COMMINGLED AND PROBABLY WOULD. NOT INTEND TO MOST LIKELY TO THE MUST.
I THINK WE ' RE QUITE. HAVEN ' T REALLY HAD A REALLY.
GOODEN MEASURING DISCUSSION WITH THE INDUSTRY UNTIL RELATIVELY.
LATELY AND ALSO I THINK WE'' RE. IF WE DO THAT AND ALSO SPEND TIME WITH THEM AND, QUITE OPTIMISTIC.
TAKE A LOOK AT THE CHANCES FOR.
TRANSFER TERMINALS, FOR POSSIBLE LESS COMPLICATED GAIN ACCESS TO TO THE.
MRF, THE RIGHT LORRY TYPES.
AND SO ON, THAT THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE A SIGNIFICANT UPTAKE BECAUSE.
WE'' RE HEARING FROM MULTIFAMILY.
CITIZENS THAT THEY NEED THIS SOLUTION.
>> DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE SORT OF HAVE, > >.
THIS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, PROHIBITION ON THE CITY.
ACTUALLY DOING THIS, ARE WE.
BEING PROACTIVE IN TRYING TO NOT JUST INVOLVE THE PRIVATE.
RECYCLERS BUT ACTUALLY.
PROD and urge THEM INTO DOING THIS? I OBTAINED TO INFORM YOU, AFTER THE.
ROLLOUT OF HEAVEN CONTAINERS AND HANDLING THE OBSTACLE OF.
THE PEOPLE and also rollout.
UNDERSTANDING HOW THEY FUNCTIONED, THE ONLY PHONE CALL THAT I ENTER MY.
WORKPLACE, THE ONLY TELEPHONE CALL SINCE.
THE ROLLOUT, IS HOW COME I CAN'' T RECYCLE, HOW COME
I. DON ' T OBTAIN
>> IT? > > I BELIEVE THE RESPONSE TO THAT IS THAT– I IMPLY, AS YOU UNDERSTAND,.
THE POSSIBILITY FOR RECYCLING.
FOR THE MULTIFAMILY SECTOR AT THE MINUTE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
RECYCLELE DEPOTS, THE 52 WE.
HAVE AROUND THE CITY, AND ALSO THAT OPTION IS THERE FOR.
MULTIFAMILY HOMEOWNERS OR THEY.
CONTAINER ENGAGE THE SOLUTIONS OF– WE WERE QUITE SURPRISED AT HOW.
LOTS PRIVATE RECYCLERS THERE.
ARE OUT THERE IN BUSINESS.AND THEY CONTAINER ENGAGE
THE. SERVICES OF THOSE. AS WELL AS WE ARE HAVING RATHER ENERGETIC DISCUSSIONS WITH THAT. SECTOR TO SHOT AS WELL AS ENCOURAGE.
EVEN MORE– TO SHOT AND ALSO FACILITATE
MULTIFAMILY RECYCLING. IN THE RECORD THE ACCESSORY.
TECHNIQUE THAT WE ' RE GOING TO TAKE TO SHOT AND ENCOURAGE. MULTIFAMILY RECYCLING OVER THE.
NEXT LITTLE WHILE.
AND AFTERWARDS FOR REALLY.
DEVELOPING A PROPER.
THOROUGH COMPLETE SOLUTION IN TIME FOR THE 15 TO 17 BUSINESS.
CYCLE.
>> > > ONE LAST CONCERN. WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 311 AND ALSO.
THEY STAY IN A CONDOMINIUM, AN.
HOUSE, AND THEY DON'' T HAVE RECYCLING AND ALSO TELEPHONE CALL OUR 311 TO.
STATE WHY DON'' T I HAVE
RECYCLING,. DO WE PROVIDE A LISTING OF PRIVATE RECYCLERS THAT THEY.
> > THAT I WEAR ' T KNOW, YOUR PRAYER. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT.
CONCEPT, IF WE COULD ENSURE THAT.
WE ARE SUSTAINING PRESSING INDIVIDUALS TOWARDS THAT.
>> > > WE CAN CERTAINLY CHECK INTO.
THAT.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THANK.
YOU. ANY PERSON ELSE? ALDERMAN JONES, DID YOU NEED.
TO SHUT? CLOSED. ON THE ACTIVITY TO THE.
MANAGEMENT REFERRALS.
ARE WE AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? LUGGED.
10.5.1, AUDIT COMMITTEE TERMS OF REFERENCE REVIEW, ALDERMAN.
PINCOTT.
>> > > THANK YOU, YOUR PRAISE. RELOCATE THE REFERRALS OF.
COMMITTEE.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: ALDERMAN PINCOTT– LET'' S GET. A SECONDER. ALDERMAN POOTMANS. ALDERMAN PINCOTT– THERE YOU.
ARE. OKAY. THANK YOU, ALDERMAN. COLLEY-URQUHART. ALDERMAN MacLEOD WILL SECOND IT.
ALDERMAN PINCOTT, SO I. UNDERSTAND THE REFERRALS OF THE BOARD', I THINK.
THEY ARE LET ' S WORK WITH THE. NEW AUDITOR TO OBTAIN THIS RIGHT INSTEAD OF ACCEPT
THE. PREVIOUS COLLECTIONS OF. SUGGESTIONS, IS THAT>>? > > INDEED. AS WELL AS THE REFERRALS ARE TO NOT JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT REQUISITES OF.
RECOMMENDATION FOR THE AUDIT.
BOARD BUT ACTUALLY TO BE QUITE A LITTLE BIT EVEN MORE.
FORCEFUL AS WELL AS ACTUALLY.
PRODUCE– CREATE AN AUDIT BOARD LAW SO THAT THE.
TERMS OF RECOMMENDATION FOR THE.
BOARD WOULD BE EMHE HADED– EMBEDDED IN A BYLAW. I BELIEVE– AND WHEN YOU TAKE A.
TAKE A LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, IT IS THE METHOD.
THAT THINGS ARE GOING.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: FOR THE RECORD, ALDERMAN PINCOTT,.
I DO LIKE REFERRAL.
NUMBER C IN THE ORIGINAL AFFIRMATION SO I HOPE WE TALK.
ANYONE ELSE ON THIS ONE? ON THE BOARD'' S. RECOMMENDATIONS ARE WE AGREED? LAND COMPLETE– OH, I DO?
LAS 2011-02, ALDERMAN HODGES.
>> > > YES, THANK YOU, YOUR.
PRAISE. THIS WAS THE SUBJECT OF SOME CONVERSATION AT LAND BOARD.
OVER THE ROOM OF 2 CONFERENCES,.
WE RAN OUT OF TIME, ON THE FIRST MEETING THEREFORE WE SET UP.
A SECOND ONE. THE REPORT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS YOU HAVE 2.
REFERRALS TO AUTHORIZE.
THE LEASE RECOMMENDATIONS AS OUTLINED IN ACCESSORY 2. NUMBER 2, DIRECT.
ADMINISTRATION TO GIVE A STANDING REPORT ON THE PROGRESSION.
OF NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN.
( INDISCERNIBLE) CALGARY AND ALSO COMMAND POSSESSIONS TECHNIQUE.
COMMISSION NOT LATER THAN.
SEPTEMBER 13th, 2011.
( INDISCERNIBLE) IS THE NEW.
NAME FOR THE VRRI WHICH HAS.
BEEN IN POSITION UP ON 32nd Opportunity NORTHWEST BECAUSE 1967. THEY'' RE SEEKING A LONGER. LEASE, YOUR WORSHIP, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THEIR PROGRAM OF.
RECONSTRUCTING THE VRRI,.
RESTORING THE FACILITIES, AS WELL AS ACTUALLY PERHAPS RESTORING ON.
THAT SITE. BUT NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN UNLESS WE AGREE TO.
EXTEND THE LEASE THAT THEY.
CARRY THE CITY-OWNED LAND. >> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: SORRY,.
I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON.
> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: DO WE HAVE A SECONDER? ALDERMAN LOWE, THANK YOU. YOU UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, I'' M GOING TO DO SOMETHING INCREDIBLY.
UNCHAIR STICK. I'' M GOING TO HOP ON MY CHAIR NOW BECAUSE I DO HAVE A NUMBER
. OF QUESTIONS ON THIS THAT.
I'' D LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE MANAGEMENT. ALDERMAN CARRA. ALDERMAN HODGES, YOU'' RE DONE?.
I ' M DONE WITH THE. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I DISCOVER THIS ENTIRE THING RATHER.
PERPLEXING. TO BEGIN WITH, I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, AS MUCH OF YOU.
KNOW, IN THE NON-PROFIT SECTOR.
AND ALSO CAPITAL PROJECTS AND SO ON, AND I HAVE NEVER HEARD.
OF A CHARITABLE COMPANY.
MAKING THE INSURANCE CLAIM THAT UNLESS THEIR LEASE IS EXTENDED FOR A.
DURATION PAST THE HELPFUL LIFE.
OF A STRUCTURE THAT THEY CANISTER NOT FUND RAISE FOR THE BUILDING. IT'' S– SHALL WE SAY DUBIOUS.
CLAIM AT BEST.THAT CLAIMED,
I ' M A VERY, EXTREMELY.
BIG FOLLOWER OF THIS COMPANY. I BELIEVE THEY DO EXTRAORDINARY OPERATE IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT I HAVE ACTUALLY ALSO TALKED TO.
THE FOLKS AT INNOVATE CALGARY THAT QUITE FRANKLY DON'' T HAVE. ANY PREPARES YET. THEY ' RE A NEW ORGANIZATION, AND ALSO WHAT THEY'' RE SEEKING.
IS ULTIMATE ADAPTABILITY. Mr. STEVENSON, I DON'' T GET THESE SUGGESTIONS. IT APPEARS TO ME LIKE.
REFERRAL LEADING IS EXTEND THE LEASE FOR A BIG.
EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME AND.
REFERRAL NUMBER 2 IS RECORD BACK ON THE.
ARRANGEMENTS. IF WE EXTEND THE LEASE, DOESN'' T THAT BY DEFINITION.
MEAN THE SETTLEMENTS ARE OVER?
>> > > YOUR PRAYER, THAT'' S CORRECT. THE 2ND RECOMMENDATION WAS. ADDED ON THE 2ND DAY, AND ALSO IF I TIN BE SO BOLD I'' LL SHOT.
AND ANALYZE I ASSUME WHERE.
COMMITTEE WAS GOING WAS TO SAY ACTUALLY INNOVATE CALGARY DID.
NOT HAVE ANY SPECIFIC INTENDS.
BUT THERE WAS A WISH BY BOARD TO SEE IF THE TWO.
GROUPS COULDN'' T OBTAIN TOGETHER.
IN THIS TIME PERIOD TO SEE IF THEY COULDN'' T COME
TO A. BETTER RESOLUTION BETWEEN THE.
2 OF THEM AND THE SUPPORT WAS FOR THE 2.
OF THEM TO PERFORM THAT AS WELL AS AFTER THAT.
FOR THE MANAGEMENT AHEAD BACK IN NO LATER THAN.
SEPTEMBER TO SEE IF THEY HAD.
MADE ANY PROGRESS IN THEIR CHOICE.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I TIN.
DEAL WITH REFERRAL NUMBER 2 BECAUSE I BELIEVE BOTH.
PARTIES ARE KIND OF BEING BAD.
ACTORS A LITTLE RIGHT HERE, BUT DOESN'' T REFERRAL NUMBER.
1 PUT THE THUMB ON THE RANGE?
> > NO.
> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI:. > > ALDERMAN PINCOTT? > > ADDRESSED and also asked RIGHT THERE.
> > A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT.DOESN'' T IT SAY LECOVIA CONTAINER REMAIN THIS FOREVER, CURRENTLY YOU CANISTER
GO NEGOTIATE?
>> >
> YES.THE ORIGINAL SUGGESTION
WAS NOT THAT, WHAT WAS TO SAY
YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'' VE GOT THESE TWO TEAMS, THEIR CASE BEING
WHAT IT WAS, THEY COULD NOT
PROCEED. IT GIVES THE CHANCE FOR
WHAT LECOVIA WAS PHRASE, WE
WEREN'' T HAVING ANY SUCCESS IN THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS
SINCE WE WEREN'' T ACQUIRING ANYWHERE WITH INNOVATE CALGARY, OFFERING THEM ALL OF THEIR ADJUSTMENTS– >
>> > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THAT'' S THE SECRET PIECE I WAS MISSING. OK. BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THERE WAS NO REWARD TO CONTINUE.
>> > > WASN ' T ONLY THAT. AS YOU'' RE AWARE, YOUR PRAYER, INNOVATE CALGARY HAS GONE KNEW A NUMBER OFITY RATIONS, NUMBER OF MODIFICATIONS, CHANGES IN LEADERSHIP AND ADVICE FROM THE COLLEGE AND ALSO THE PROVINCE REGARDING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE PART. IT WAS LECOVIA'' S POSITION I THINK TO THE COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS CANISTER CORRECT ME, THEY REALLY NEEDED TO GET SOME KIND OF FORMAL AUTHORIZATION BY METHOD OF LEASE SO THAT THEY COULD OBTAIN INTO THE CONVERSATIONS WITH INNOVATE CALGARY.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: O.K.. I THINK GIVEN– I LISTEN TO WHAT YOU'' RE PHRASE, Mr.STEVENSON,.
AND I THINK GIVEN THAT– I.
STILL HAVE SOME TROUBLE WITH THIS. ALDERMAN HODGES MAY FREAK.
OUT AT THIS. I TIN UNDERSTAND THE REQUIREMENT TO.
BRING THE TWO COMPANIES.
TOGETHER AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THE DEMAND TO PROVIDE A.
DUE DATE. I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF PROBLEM WITH LETTING AMONG THE CELEBRATIONS.
HAVE ALL THE POWER IN THE.
ARRANGEMENT. SO BECAUSE OF THIS, I WAS JUST–.
REALLY? COULD DO. WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO WAS I.
WAS GOING TO SUGGEST AN.
AMENDMENT TO NUMBER 1, WHICH IS TO LICENSE LEASE.
REFERRALS DESCRIBED IN.
ACCESSORY 2 AS OF 2011, SEPTEMBER 15, PENDING THE.
OUTCOME OF RECOMMENDATION.
NUMBER 2. SO TO PUT IT SIMPLY THEY'' VE
GOT. A DEADLINE.'IF THEY CANISTER ' T PERTAIN TO AN CONTRACT
BY SEPTEMBER THE. 15th, AFTER THAT LECOVIA GETS WHAT.
THEY NEED. I RECOGNIZE THAT STILL MEANS.
THEY'' VE GOT
AN REWARD TO. DRAG THEIR HEELS ON THIS, BUT I ASSUME IT AT THE VERY LEAST SAYS TO.
INTRODUCE CALGARY YOU CONTAINER COME.
TO THE TABLE AS A PARTNER BELOW. THE CITY DOESN'' T HAVE A. PRE-ORDAINED OUTCOME.I ' M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT. AMENDMENT.
ALDERMAN CHABOT. >> > > ANY CONVERSATION TO THAT.
SUGGESTED MODIFICATION? I HAVE MY HEIGHT ON. ALDERMAN HODGES. YOUR PRAYER, MEMBERS OF.
COUNCIL, I BELIEVE THE BOARD MAY HAVE AGREED WITH AN.
MODIFICATION LIKE THAT, THE CHAIR,.
MAYOR NENSHI, EXCEPT THAT THE PARTIES HAVE BEEN IN.
CONVERSATIONS AT VARIOUS TIME IN.
THE LAST THREE OR 4 YEARS, AND THESE CONVERSATIONS RESULTED.
IN NO ARRANGEMENT WHATSOEVER. WHAT INTRODUCE CALGARY PRESENTED AT BOARD WAS A.
DELAY HOLD-UP SIX MONTHS IN THE.
FIRST MEETING AS WELL AS SECOND MEETING IT WAS A HOLD-UPS OF.
THREE MONTHS. AND ALSO DIRECTLY IF I'' D IDEA THERE WOULD
BE ANY CONTRACT.
IN THREE MONTHS OR 6 MONTHS.
I MIGHT HAVE AGREED WITH Mr.MASTERS, BUT I KNOW THERE. WILL NOT BE AN AGREEMENT IN. THEE MONTHS, I UNDERSTAND THERE WILL NOT BE AN AGREEMENT IN SIX. MONTHS. GIVEN THE CONCERNS ENTAILED. INNOVATE CALGARY, QUITE.
FRANKLY, PRAYER, LECOVIA AS.
BEING IN THEIR METHOD SO THEIR CONCEPT IS TO HAVE An ARRANGEMENT.
ESTABLISH SOMEHOW WITH THE.
DISTRICT TO MOVE THEM IN AN INNOVATE CALGARY AREA, i.e. NORTH OF 32 OPPORTUNITIES AND WEST OF.
CROWCHILD ROUTE. GIVEN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
AND ALSO LOOKING TO BE A COMPONENT OF AS WELL AS.
OBTAINING BUSINESS QUALITIES INVOLVED IN A NEW SITE, THE.
NEW WEBSITE FOR THE NORTHWEST REC.
CENTRE, THAT DIRECTLY WAS, WITH ALDERMAN LOWE AND ALSO MYSELF,.
THAT WAS THREE YEARS. 3 YEARS AND ALSO DEALING WITH THE PROVINCE.
ON THEIR LAND HOLDINGS WITHIN.
THE INNOVATE CALGARY AREA SO I DON'' T SEE THIS HOLD-UP IS.
REALLY– GENERALLY I WOULD.
AGREE. GIVEN THE HISTORY OF THIS.
PROBLEM, I WILL CERTAINLY NOT BE.
> > ALDERMAN FARRELL? I WAS JUST TALKING WITH THE MAYOR AND ALSO IDEA THAT IF THIS.
WAS DESCRIBED THE MAYOR,.
PROBABLY HE COULD MEET WITH BOTH AIDS as well as events.
ASSIST IN.
>> > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: THIS IS THE 2ND TIME YOU'' VE. REFERRED SOMETHING TO THE.
MAYOR, ALDERMAN FARRELL. IT DIDN'' T EXERCISE REALLY WELL.
THE FIRST TIME.
>> >
>> > MAYBE NOT. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I TIN.
COPE WITH THAT.
>> > > DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD … I BELIEVE IT COULD BE HELPFUL. SO Mr. HODGES– ALDERMAN.
HODGES– >> > > WE HAVE A SECONDER FOR. ALDERMAN FARRELL ' S REFERRAL.
>> MOTION?( PLEASE STAND BY ).
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: AND. MOTION TO GO IN CAMERA, ARE WE CONCURRED? ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT
“. IN WE GO.
“CAPTIONING OF THIS MEETING IS. OFFERED AS An INTERACTION EASE OF ACCESS MEASURE AS WELL AS IS NOT.
INTENDED AS A VERBATIM.
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PROCEEDINGS. IF INACCURACIES OCCUR, IT MAY BE.
AS A RESULT OF PERSON ERROR, TECHNICAL.
DIFFICULTIES, OR AN FAILURE ON THE COMPONENT OF THE AUTHOR TO HEAR.
OR UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING.
SAID. WHILE BEST EFFORTS ARE MADE TO PAPER AS CLOSELY AS.
FEASIBLE WHAT IS BEING CLAIMED, THE.
CAPTIONS CONTAINER NOT BE RELIED UPON AS A CERTIFIED ACCURATE RECORD.
OF THE PROCEDURES.””.
AS A CERTIFIED EXACT DOCUMENT OF THE PROCESS.””.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: AND WE.
ARE BACK.ALDERMAN HODGES? >
> RELOCATION THE COMMITTEE INCREASE TO. REPORT, YOUR PRAISE.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: >> THANK. YOU, SECKER? ALDERMAN JONES. ARE WE AGREED EXTREMELY WELL. ALDERMAN HODGES YOU STILL HAVE. THE FLOORING. > > THANK YOU.
LAND AS WELL AS PROPERTY METHOD COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. INCLUDED IN THE RECORD.
L.A.S.-2011-04 BE TAKEN ON
AND ALSO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. NUMBER 2 THE RECOMMENDATIONS. REPORT AND ADD-ONS REMAIN PRIVATE ADHERING TO THE. IN-CAMERA CONVERSATION UNDER.
SECTION 23.5 B, AND THE FLEXIBILITY OF INFORMATION AND PROTECTION OF. PERSONAL PRIVACY ACT UP UNTIL 2013,.
DECEMBER 31.
> > Mayor Naheed >> Nenshi: OKAY.
>> > > THAT ' S THE FIRST ONE>. > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ARE YOU GOING DO THEM ALL.
TOGETHER IN.
>> > > O.K.. 2011-05 IS ONCE AGAIN PROPOSED SALE.
OF LAND IN THE INDUSTRIAL LANDS.
WONDERFUL LEVELS WARD 9. NUMBER 1 THE LAND AND ALSO POSSESSION.
TECHNIQUE COMMITTEE.
SUGGESTION HAD IN A RECORD L.AS.-2011-05 BE TAKEN ON.
AND THAT THE REFERRALS.
RECORD AS WELL AS ATTACHMENT STAY CONFIDENTIAL FOLLOWING THE.
IN-CAMERA DISCUSSIONS PURSUANT.
TO THE EXACT SAME SECTIONS. SUBB OF THE FREEDOM OF.
DETAILS OF SECURITY OF.
PERSONAL PRIVACY ACT UNTIL 201, DECEMBER 31 AND– 2013,.
DECEMBER 31.
>> > > ON A POINT IN WHICH THOSE FIRST 2 ITEMS THAT HE'' S REFERRED,. I ' M NOT ENCOURAGING OF THOSE AS WELL AS. I WOULD RATHER BALLOT ON THOSEVATELY.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I WAS.
GOING TO VOTE ON THEM ALL INDIVIDUALLY ANYWAY. ALDERMAN CHABOT, I WAS GOING TO.
LET HIM PUT THEM ALL ON THE TABLE AND ALSO VOTE ON THEM.
SEPARATELY.
>> > > THE LAST ONE, ROPOSED DEALS NORTH DUFFERIN.
INDUSTRIAL LAND WARD 12 THAT THE.
LAND AS WELL AS POSSESSION TECHNIQUE BOARD SUGGESTIONS.
INCLUDED IN THE REPORT LAND AND.
ASSET METHOD 2011-06 BE ADOPTED.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ALL.
THEN.ALDERMAN FARRELL YOU ' RE GOING TO.
SECOND THOSE AS THE VICE CHAIR? O.K.. THANKS. ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS? ON THE FIRST ONE AFTER THAT ARE WE CONCURRED? ANY OPPOSED? ALDERMAN CHABOT IS OPPOSED. 2ND ONE AGREED, ANY OPPOSED. ALD CHABOT IS OPPOSED. THIRD ONE ARE WE AGREED? LUGGED. ALDERMAN JONES.
>> > > YOUR WORSHIP, THE FIRST ONE IS AOC-2011 THE EVALUATION OF THE.
ALLOWANCE ACCOUNT PLAN AND.
THAT THE ALDERMAN COORDINATE BOARD REFERRALS.
HAD IN REPORT AOC-2011-05.
BE ADOPTED. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
ALDERMAN CHABOT, SECONDLY? ANY CONVERSATION ON– WHY DON'' T. > > O.K..
RAISING THE COMMUNITY CSIF.
AIR ALLOCATION HONOR THAT THE ACCORDING BOARD.
RECOMMENDATION CONSISTED OF IN THE.
REPORT BE ADOPTED. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
ALDERMAN CHABOT IS SECOND. ANY CONVERSATION ON THESE ONE? THESE REPORTS WILL NOW BE PUBLIC.
WHEN WE PASS IT, MADAM CLERK SO.
I TIN REALLY SAY TO THOSE INTREPID MEMBERS OF JOURNALISM.
STILL IN THE ROOM, READ.
AOC-2011-05.
( LAUGHTER).
ALDERMAN CHABOT AS WELL AS I MAY HAVE A.
DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON WHAT IT CLAIMS BUT I BELIEVE YOU WILL CERTAINLY FIND.
ON THE FIRST ONE, ARE WE CONCURRED? ANY OPPOSED? AS WELL AS ON THE 2ND ONE, ARE WE.
AGREED? ANY OPPOSED? LUGGED. ALDERMAN STEVENSON?
>> > > THANKS, YOUR PRAYER. ALLOW THE VERBAL REPORT. SETTLEMENTS WITH THE CALGARY.
AIRPORT AUTHORITY BE RECEIVED FOR INFORMATION AND ALSO LET THE.
CONVERSATION WITH REGARD TO THE.
VERBAL RECORD REMAIN CONFIDENTIAL PURSUANT TO.
SECTIONS 23.1 (B), 241 (C) OF.
VOIP. >> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
THANKS, ALDERMAN CHABOT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? > > WITH REGARD TO THE CALGARY PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARD THAT JANE.
NEED TO NOT BE A– CURRENTLY BE.
SELECTED TO THE CALGARY TOWN LIBRARY BOARD AS AN ELECTED.
PARTICIPANT FOR 3 YEARS AND THAT.
THE IN-CAMERA DISCUSSION REMAIN CONFIDENTIAL UNDER SECTION 19.1.
UNDER THE FLEXIBILITY OF INFO.
PRIVACY SECURITY ACT.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: THANK.
YOU, ALDERMAN FARRELL YOU'' RE. SECONDLY IN THANK YOU. ANY CONVERSATION ON THIS SET. ARE WE AGREED? ANY OPPOSED. LUGGED. THAT HAD THE LAST ONE, ALD.
MacLEOD? ALL RIGHT.
>> > > THAT THE VERBAL RECORD.
WORKER PRODUCT BE OBTAINED FOR INFORMATION WHICH THE.
DISCUSSION WITH RESPECT TO THE.
SPOKEN RECORD REMAIN CONFIDENTIAL PURSUANT TO.
AREAS 24.1 (B), ONE, THE.
LIBERTY OF INFORMATION OF PERSONAL PRIVACY PROTECTION ACT.
>> > > Mayor Naheed Nenshi:.
> > YES, YOUR PRAISE. THANK YOU. VERBAL REPORT APPOINTMENT OF REGULATION OF DIGITAL ELECTRONIC.
OR COMPUTER SIGNS TASK FORCE. A GREAT DEAL OF CONSTANTNANCE. ALDERMAN CHABOT, ALDERMAN.
DEMONG, ALDERMAN MAR BE.
SELECTED TO THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF DIGITAL ELECTRONIC OR COMPUTER SYSTEM.
SIGNS TASK COMPEL WHICH TWO.
A TERM OF REFERENCE TO CONSIST OF A SUNDOWN PROVISION IN ADDITION TO.
INFORMATION RELATIVE TO.
SATISFYING AS WELL AS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, RETURN TO THE.
2011, MARCH 21 REGULAR CONFERENCE.
> > Mayor Naheed Nenshi: I'' LL. REVIEWED IT TO YOU PRIVATELY LATER, ALDERMAN CHABOT. > > OH, IT'' S ONLY 10 O ' CLOCK.
> > WASN ' T ONLY THAT. > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: O.K.. > > ALDERMAN FARRELL? > > MAYOR NAHEED NENSHI: I CAN.
> > THANK YOU.