Welcome back to this public meeting of
the USA Customer Product Safety and security Commission our hearing which
began today at 9:00 a.m. will now continue just a reminder that this
is a public hearing to solicit discuss the petition requesting the
Commission start rulemaking under the federal harmful material act to
Alliance of nurses for healthy atmospheres I ' m. a nurse and a registered nurse midwife the Alliance is the only nationwide
nursing.
incorporating evidence-based practice as well as influencing plan we have more than 3000. members throughout the country our participants include registered nurses from all strolls of.
our profession Health center based public wellness innovative as well as school-based.
technique to simply name a few registered nurses are the most trusted career and we take.
our responsibilities very seriously when providing education to people and working to. avoid illness the primary work of our organization takes place via the generous.
volunteer work of our nurses with our policy as well as campaigning for workgroup these.
nurses have actually led interaction of health professionals on the serious concerns.
related to fire resistants as well as health and wellness our job has actually been led by the American.
registered nurses organizations resolution Nursing Technique chemical exposure as well as right to.
know which promotes a strategy that lowers making use of harmful chemicals.
concerned that expectant women the expanding fetus and also our children are being.
subjected to halogenated flame resistants daily it ' s my task to aid ladies have.
the healthiest pregnancies possible thus I acknowledge the significance of. having regular levels of thyroid hormonal agents throughout maternity and also display for. symptoms of thyroid dysfunction to make sure that activity can be quickly taken if an. problem is located that this class of fire retardants are structurally. comparable to thyroid hormonal agent as well as
have actually been shown to interrupt thyroid hormone. function is highly worrying thyroid disturbance while pregnant can have a. unfavorable influence on fetal mind growth as well as other bad. pregnancy end results as you have actually listened to from various other. elevated PB de levels at human breast milk has actually'been associated with prepared.
Accord ism as well as reduced testes dimension and also reduced sperm matters as.
When it ' s been shown that these toxic chemicals are
not, especially aggravating. When optimal talking with my pediatric, even giving included flame security.
nurse coworkers they have actually explained that they have lots of ways we can counsel. moms and dads to reduce
threats of fire such as having functioning smoke alarm and not. cigarette smoking in your house however they have no significant advice to provide to parents on. exactly how to decrease the risk of youngsters exposures to flame retardants manufacturers are. able to add these fire resistant to their products without labeling or. examining them for health impacts this whole class of halogenated fire. resistants olive ' s similar molecular structure and all are likely to react. In the body we believe that due to the harmful nature of these. flame resistants and the high potential for harm particularly to the growing unborn child. and kids as a result of critical developmental home windows of sensitivity.
that the CPSC is urged to regulate these fire retardants under the government. hazardous substance Act also the staff briefs mentions that AFR ' s might not be. pervasive as they ' ve been discovered in only 22 percent of the kids ' s items. evaluated by CPSC this is not an insignificant number as
youngsters has. various toys in their toy boxes 22 percent can cause substantial. exposures amongst'this at risk populace our future generation is worthy of.
to be able to mature and also without these hazardous chemicals allow ' s.
not make the blunder of regrettable replacements as well as embrace the current. proposition to limit these unnecessary and also wellness damaging class of flame.
resistants thanks thanks quite miss Reed good mid-day initially I ' d like. to say thanks to chairwoman Buerkle and the CPSC commissioners for the possibility to. indicate prior to you today on this vital issue my name is Jenna Reed
. I am the science and also plan expert at the facility for scientific research as well as freedom of. the Union of Concerned Researchers with greater than 500,000 advocates as well as participants. throughout the country we are a detached nonprofit group dedicated to boosting. public policy with independent and rigorous scientific research the Facility for. scientific research and also freedom at UCS supporters for improved
transparency and also integrity. in our democratic establishments particularly those making science-based. public plan choices the Union of Concerned Scientists stands with various other. participants of the clinical area in sustaining this petition calling upon
. the Consumer Item Security Commission to declare Organa halogen fire. resistants o FRS as an unsafe course of chemicals and also to outlaw their usage in.
mischaracterizing science to support for details plan goals the chemical.
Tribune investigatory series noted the chemical industry has turned research. American Chemistry Council and its member business.
overmuch subjected to as well as birth high levels of flame retardant chemicals.
including in the collective chemical burden that these areas are already.
experiencing from enhanced great particle issue from nuclear power plant or. refineries in their communities to greater degrees of pollutants in their. drinking water I ' ve seen firsthand the persistence of the earliest type of. fire retardants polychlorinated biphenyls PCBs that still plague the. debris and water of the Hackensack Meadowlands simply a number of miles from. where I matured in New Jacket one of my initial Jobs was functioning in the chemistry.
AFR ' s to safeguard our children
and future generations thank you thank you very.
the North American flag retired life liens I recognize there ' s a great deal of passion in this. concern and also we were attempting to aid facilitate the commissioners request
to. consolidate some of the testimony so I ' m going to present comments in support of.
both myself and also Mike Wallace from the American Chemistry Council I ' ll try as well as.
be short simply a fast comment and I know we ' ve been before the commissioners.
in the past on a number of issues and also I simply intend to emphasize that the American Chemistry. Council represents the concept suppliers of chemicals in the US as well as.
we are completely devoted to item safety and security that by nature of membership in the.
American Chemistry Council you are obligated to abide by an accountable.
treatment program that includes 8 different codes including an item.
safety and security code which ' s required for responsibility that includes third-party.
verification in our new item safety and security code however I simply desired to stress our.
commitment to total item safety and security I ' m below today speaking on behalf of the.
personnel rundown plan as it relates to the request HB 15 1 and also the staff.
recommendation to deny the petition I ' m mosting likely to highlight 5 bottom lines today. but our general message to the commissioners to the public to several of. the various other stakeholders are today this request is overly wide it will. boost fire danger and it is not regular with the f HSA so my.
testament concentrate on 5 key factors very first fire safety as the commissioners well.
federal government regulators have established do not offer a threat and would likewise prohibit.
compounds that place ' t even been created yet so again I urge
the. Commission to look'at this holistically in regards to the wide ramifications of. this fine example would be under both Democratic and Republican. administrations
new fire retardant items have been authorized including. under the brand-new regulation Berg Chemical Safety and security Act this would certainly run counter to that a related point would certainly be is the. substances that are the subject of the application have currently been or currently.
being examined for their safety by United States EPA under a detailed brand-new governing. system in position for managing chemicals the CPSC plainly has a vital and.
essential role to play in customer items however this petition would certainly.
duplicate some of the job that ' s currently underway or has been done by US. EPA to examine the security of chemicals as well as regulate those chemicals and a large. item of this we were here with the last time testifying concerning hopefully the. capacity of the new Lautenberg Chemical Safety Act after the last hearing in. January 2016 it ' s delighted right here to claim a lot of individuals around this room not just.
the chemical sector however environmental groups labor unions and so on we work to assist. pass the bipartisan Lautenberg Chemical Safety Act that is a new law that has.
gone into result it substantially boosts the way we regulate chemicals.
in the United States and also I think that'' s an essential factor to consider and I ' ll. simply finish with a final point which is due to the fact that we we believe this the application.
advanced is a really troubling and also unsuitable application of the FHS an and also. and need to be rejected I would just finish with a remark simply straight from the. team plan that I think highlights the wide nature of this the FHS a. requires consideration of the connection between the toxicity of a compound. direct exposure to that substance via fairly near as well as traditional use. of an item and also resulting in substantial accident or. substantial ailment
linked with the exposure staff considers that the ofr. represent a wide class of
chemicals specified largely by their functional usage. and the visibility of either bromine or chlorine the information on OA ofr show varying. toxicity and also direct exposure potential among person of our substances these. varying buildings of specific person of our substances indicate. that AFR ' s are in fact
represent numerous subclasses of chemicals as well as ought to not. and should be taken a look at separately and one can not end that all compounds. would certainly be thought about dangerous compounds under they J state that ' s part of the. reason that we encourage the Payment to take into consideration the team record. and the scientific research on these she ' s value the possibility to. affirm today I ' m happy to address any kind of inquiry Thank You mr.Simon ms loan provider. hello many thanks for including me and allowing me to indicate by phone my name. is Sonia lender as well as I ' m an elderly analyst at the Environmental Working Group a. not-for-profit company over the previous 14 years my organization ewg has actually done. initial biography monitoring research studies to document human exposure to organo. halogen flame retardants we ' ve collaborated worked together with academic. research laboratories to determine PBDEs impaired serum examples'from young children as well as their. mommies and also mothers milk as well as umbilical cable blood ewg is likewise partnered with. heather Stapleton ' s laboratory to determine metabolites of chlorinated Tris and para. master 550 and also preschool age kids and their moms these studies suggest.
prevalent exposure to toxic fire resistants specifically while pregnant.
infancy and early childhood kids ' s direct exposures are typically three to 5.
times higher than their mommies in its briefing package the CPSC personnel elevated.
worries regarding the requests goal of banning all additive Organa halogen. chemicals yet loads'of studies have actually recorded the means these chemicals can. Tony the food web continue the atmosphere and also threaten human wellness.
the testament today files a clear pattern of regrettable replacement or
. as we discover today to call it regrettable denial where restrictions on a details. ofr s result in making use of new poorly studied halogenated options most. recently poisoning concerns have prompted 4 states Maryland New york city Vermont. and Washington to outlaw 2 forms'of tryst in foam products we see that without. clear red relax entrance strict Olaf ours as a team a portion of the marketplace will. change to brand-new improperly studied telogen ated chemicals bolstering this cycle most. current sorry Organa halogen fire retardant share physical as well as chemical.
high qualities that weren ' t there consideration as a team under the. government exactly how does their disc Materials Act the halogen carbon bond imparts.
50 flame resistants that are not likely to pose a risk for human wellness.
halogenated the declaration is likely based on the evaluation of the EPA ' s. developed for the Atmosphere Program that was additionally stated earlier by Rick.
grosse as well as the statement in 2015 in a record all of the 10 halogenated flame. retardants that EPA checked out were ranked as high hazard in at least one category.
either for their risk to human health or ecological perseverance and.
Because the 1 by 1 regulative approach is troublesome for making sure, a course.
that alternative fire resistants will certainly be much less hazardous and suppress others.
regardless of an encouraging market change far from additive flame retardants as well as.
house products ofr has proceeded to be utilized in some brand-new products as kept in mind in.
testimony today we end that volunteer actions by suppliers as well as.
state by state restrictions on private chemicals are not sufficient.
to keep these chemicals out of brand-new products and we note that portable XRF.
devices enable for fast and economical as well as non-invasive conformity surveillance.
as a matter of fact meaning that a classification large ban on halogens could be less complex to enforce.
than a ban on certain authors the CPSC personnel declare that there was inadequate.
information to confirm that these 4 product groups in the request are the.
resource of ofr is measured in people as well as they ' ll bring up the point that the.
Chemicals are making use of automobiles as well as also one minute remaining thank you.
research has actually shown that consumer items are the primary resource of human. direct exposure to fire resistants in our statement composed testament we
affix. this D finding that two times as many pounds of PBDEs. were contributed to polyurethane foam in family products than automobiles so in. closing we would urge the to grant the request as we ' ve composed.
and beyond natural halogen fire retardants in these four product. classification thank you thank
you significantly next is dr.Heather Stapleton dr.

Alliance of registered nurses for healthy environments I ' m. a registered nurse and a registered nurse midwife the Partnership is the only national
nursing. Tribune investigative series noted the chemical market has actually twisted research. AFR ' s to protect our kids
and as well as generations thank you thank you veryExtremely EPA to assess the safety of chemicals and also regulate those chemicals as well as a huge. January 2016 it ' s happy below to claim several of the individuals around this area not just.Stapleton are you on the phone thanks yes we can thank you significantly terrific
thanks excellent afternoon yes I'' m Heather Stapleton I''
m an associate professor of ecological chemistry as well as direct exposure science at Fight it out University my research study has actually concentrated on recognizing additive chemicals and customer products assessing human direct exposure paths as well as examining prospective results from direct exposure to fire retardants for the past 17 years I'' ve. been performing study specifically on flame-retardant chemicals and also I have. more than 70 peer-reviewed magazines concentrating on this subject furthermore I.
affirmed in front of the United States Senate subcommittee in May of 2012 on a hearing.
just concentrated on environment profits today I'' d like to take a couple of mins to.
sum up some vital study searchings for that have actually been generated for my.
team specifically over the last year which directly connect to several concerns.
increased today particularly associating with our understanding of human exposure.
related to use of fire resistants and also furnitures as well as cushions because 2008 my.
research study group has actually been examining furniture products specifically couches.
chairs mattresses as well as a variety of baby things for fire returning chemicals as.
these days we have checked greater than 2000 of these items as well as we have an extremely.
excellent understanding base pertaining to where fire retardants are used as well as how their.
use has actually altered over time unlike what you'' ve been told our study has.
shown that flame resistants are in fact utilized in grown-up cushions offered on the.
market today particularly bed mattress made of memory foam and also our data.
recommends this is not decreasing we additionally know that firms are still applying.
fire retardants to furnishings despite the adjustment in the flammability criteria.
from California this was recorded in our publication in 2016.
digitus research study my lab has been conducting its considerable biography monitoring.
research studies to review exposure amongst the public as well as is to recognize how.
direct exposure relates to item use in a recent publication by Hoffman as well as Al we.
showed that exposure to the halogenated natural phosphate fire.
resistant TDC PP also kept in mind chlorinated Tris has boosted significantly among.
polyurethane foam these studies give a web link connecting application of
TDC P P. as well as baby furniture items with exposure and infants as a follow-up to this study.
we just recently estimated the average daily intake of TDC P P for an infant utilizing.
our measurements of the urinary metabolite we located that direct exposure array.
from 0.01 to 15 micrograms of TVC PP per kilogram body weight each day when you.
compare that direct exposure to the appropriate day-to-day consumption for non cancer cells health risks.
reported in a CPSC file in 2006 our outcomes find that 2 to 9 %of babies are.
currently obtaining exposure that is higher than that threshold recommending.
some infants are receiving obtaining exposure that might lead to health and wellness. risk this is additionally released earlier this year to additionally recognize partnerships. in between flame-retardant usage as well as furnishings and exposure among the basic.
public we lately carried out a different research in which we in fact tasted the.
cushions from sofas in 140 homes as well as accumulated paired examples of residence dust.
as well as blood from individuals living in those houses we discovered solid as well as.
statistically significant organizations between the brominated flame resistants
. as well as the sofas in concentrations in the home dust and in the participants blood.
For instance if a bf are a brominated flame retardant was present in the couch.
taken into consideration the fastest-growing cancer cells based upon occurrence one min remaining.
and we have actually recently released a paper which located statistically considerable.
associations in between the focus of three different. fire resistants in home
to us with thyroid cancer cells and this heart. organization was specifically solid for Dekker bromo diphenyl ether a burma.
indigenous flame retardant enclosing i think this research study these research study.
studies demonstrate unquestionably certainly that use fire.
retardants in these items is plainly linked with exposure among the general.
public well I understand the fire risk is a really well-funded problem we should.
believe critically about techniques as well as technologies made use of to satisfy flammability.
criteria in my opinion we ought to be of absolutely staying clear of making use of little.
particle ingredients which will certainly always migrate out of products and also cause.
some kind of direct exposure it ' s simply thermodynamics provided the.
intrinsic obstacles in assessing hazard accounts profiles for chemicals it would certainly. behoove us to try and also eliminate exposure instead of spending substantial time. and effort trying to figure out which chemical has a far better poisoning account.
Alaska we strongly sustain the petition as well as rulemaking to outlaw the class of.
the Payment has a historical chance to make plan that will.
protect the wellness of countless individuals across the u.s. who are routinely. subjected to these hazardous chemicals as well as especially your house of at risk. populations that are disproportionately revealed in their homes as well as offices I. am below to speak to the demand
of securing at risk populaces that. may not be right away evident because they are far-off from producing. facilities however are nevertheless highly and also overmuch exposed people of the. north as well as arctic especially native individuals we urge the Payment to. take into consideration the unique susceptability of frozen and also northern aboriginal individuals. When considering this request far from, and their future generations.
immaculate the it consists of a few of the most extremely. polluted animals as well as people in the globe it is an essential indication. Once chemicals, region for examining properties and also effects of chemicals.
get in the Arctic their wear and tear is slowed due to reduced temperature levels as well as low.
strength sunlight that makes them available for long-lasting unification.
right into biological systems northern and also Arctic individuals bear a concern of health and wellness
. variations including cancers cells reproductive conditions birth flaws.
discovering as well as developmental impairments the fenceline of chemical manufacturing.
circulation use and disposal reaches the Arctic since chemicals can travel. hundreds and also countless miles on atmospheric as well as nautical currents where.
they build up in the bodies of fish wild animals and people of the north in a. process understood as
international purification individuals of the north specifically youngsters. are most likely to be more extremely revealed to flame-retardant chemicals in indoor. Since of the longer wintertimes the need to insulate versus the, environments. cool and also less air flow in
their homes people experience high exposures with. typical foods along with in their residence settings so this is really a. consideration of numerous direct exposure paths as well as high exposures they also have. limited choices in buying from retail shops in country Alaska that offer. inferior items chemicals are gone through succeeding generations from. mommy to youngster and also injury the capability of children to learn their languages. conventional life ways tunes tales as well as understanding these neuro toxic chemicals.
are harming the brains and health and wellness of our future generations due to the fact that these.
chemicals run away the items in which they are utilized via evaporation or. weathering a lot of these organo halogen compounds are currently prevalent in the.
international setting people are primarily exposed with a breathing intake.
and also thermal absorption Roman ated flame resistants consisting of PBDEs as well as H BCD are.
currently ubiquitous in Arctic ecosystems with boosting degrees in some areas.
providing cause for worry for instance focus of PBDEs found in the. blood of yupik people the yukon-kuskokwim Delta area of. Alaska are the greatest recognized human PvE concentrations in the circumpolar Arctic.
concern is expanding regarding brand-new greatly unmonitored relentless chemicals that.
long-range and consistent transportation of a variety of these substitutes flame.
retardants into the Arctic Salim ovah gauged concentrations of 45.
chlorinated and also brominated fire retardants and also Arctic air samples as well as.
molar in 2012 located 2 chlorinated chemicals TCP and TCP P that predominate.
in the North Pacific and Arctic air samples these are highly relentless in. the Arctic as a result of reduced temperature levels and darkness our own community-based. research has demonstrated the presence of PBDEs and also home dirt Sentinel. fish standard food examples of marine animals as well as in the blood product of the. Ubik individuals of st.Lawrence Island a remote island in the north Bering Sea. despite of this remote area PBDEs are common and dirt gathered from. st. Lawrence Island households as well as human serum focus resemble

. those located in elevated degrees of the u.s. general populace focus of. numerous of these PBDEs as well as dust are connected with serum concentrations. suggesting home dirt gives these substances even in remote. populaces ultimately as co-chair of the International Pops removal Network. I ' m really worried that the lack of controls in the u.s. allows the discarding. of items with risky degrees of flame resistants into US markets
including. products which contain so-called recycled plastics infected by fire.
resistants from digital waste we prompt that Consumer Item Security Compensation.
to utilize their authority to protect public health and wellness particularly that of at risk.
short chain chlorinated paraffins in kids ' s toys as well as other kids ' s. items thanks thank you significantly miss out on Miller we will now begin our round.
of inquiry from the compensation from the Dyess and also I will begin that 2 line of.
focus of bromine and also chlorine in any part of a furnishings item.
would enable firms or detectives themselves to sharpen'know precisely'what. chemicals could be in there and the searching for of very reduced web content of bromine.
or chlorine in an item would certainly show that conformity with a restriction on classes of. Organa chlorine argon or bromine fire resistants in those four classifications of. items mentioning that you recognize with non-invasive non-destructive
actions. and also the constraint throughout the category XRF would certainly be an excellent cheap
fast. evaluating modern technology to enforce any kind of limitations on those substances thank.
If we take, you very much mr.Simon in your testimony you stated that. this wide approach and grant this petition and restriction classes of chemicals I. need to claim restriction this class of chemicals that we will be prohibiting chemicals that. have already been approved and also established to be risk-free could. you just expand on a little thank you. indeed just as some instances yet we know and also there

have been regulatory evaluations. of a few of the chemicals that would be included in this petition that have actually gone. with reviews not just in the US yet Canada. European Union and have actually had those determinations that they do not existing. a threat to human health and wellness of the setting so a fine example of that. would certainly be TV BPA was one chemical that I think came up previously today that has had. regulatory resolutions by both Canada and the EU and also that would certainly be just one. instance there that would have a
direct influence you might give extra if.

you have other examples of that I would actually value that thanks.
Commissioner Adler I thank you really much madam chairman mr.Simon is it reasonable to.
state based upon your testament in the testimony of your sector colleagues.
that we ' re not likely to see a phase-out of ofr s in customer items unless the. Payment takes governing action I think the what I would certainly state to the.
commissioners would be as I believe you will certainly remain to see the use of flame. retardants in applications that require to meet certain fire personality fire security.
specifications and particular ludo iPhone that wedding on that particular would certainly.
consist of'a farce fine and noticing the Chairman ' s. point you did point out these researches with by various other firms and I think you ' re. referring to EPA and I keep in mind in your testimony your composed statement on page. 2 you say APA is determined over 50:50 fire retardants that it claims they ' re. not likely to position a risk to human health and wellness have you actually are to your understanding. any of your associates really seen that checklist I think that ' s a superb. 50 I believe the factor that it ' s not easily accessible has much less to do with the fact.
that its proprietary than the reality that my understanding is APA is withdrawn it. as well as no more guarantees that list of 50 and I ' m asking yourself
the last time you. When you contacted them I don ' t have, examined and what the answer was provided. that info I know we ' ve asked EPA to make that publicly offered to the. If it ' s not divulging names I assume the Commission, extent that they can also. would possibly have better access to that I would certainly likewise simply claim though it ' s. not just limited to that testimonial that was done under
the Obama management I. know there was recently just a brand-new pmn underneath the new Lautenberg Chemical. Security Act that does need an affirmative safety resolution that is.
a body organ oh oh F R and it ' s been approved for sure usages therefore that ' s. one other more possibly much more existing example'and I believe that is public a little bit. yeah and just picking
up on the Chairman ' s request I would really. appreciate it'I think we all would if you would certainly submit whatever list you have. that includes ofr s particularly in customer items that you think have. been shown present no reasonable danger of safety this Huff lien at one. point in your testament you stated o FRS are not offering added fire protection. that ' s question if you could specify on that particular point sure well I think a great deal of. the products that they ' re in you understand we don ' t have children that are smoking. cigarettes laying on their floor coverings or on nursing cushions that truly not needed.
in these types of items and it ' s just causing even more exposure to these.
potentially hazardous chemicals where they ' re really not needed yeah as well as as well as.
dr.Birnbaum today was saying essentially that the ofr is in the. focus that'they ' re appearing in customer items are actually not. providing substantial
fire defense do you have any kind of thoughts or comments around. that too yes I I would certainly agree with dr.
Birnbaum that. they ' re not giving added fire defense and rather are simply exposing. all of us to toxic chemicals Ms Reid in your research study have you uncovered any. studies that will certainly much as you ' ve simply listened to the referral by mr. Simon that. would certainly lead you in conclusion that there are any secure Oh FRS or that there are oh. f RS yet to be found that'share these same physical chemical organic.
qualities as existing ofr s such that we should not take a class technique.
to managing them I have not as well as people that testified today consisting of dr. Birnbaum practically have the very same you understand belief which their hat there has.
not yet been one natural halogen fire that could be that wasn ' t connected to no.
I want to make sure that I my understanding is that you ' ve done.
blood of people as well as which which research study sustains that that is the Hamel il 2017.
magazine mentioned in my created testament wonderful thanks a lot as well as.
dr.Lund ah you stated in your you have footnote 16 17 18 19 20 that ' s included. in your affix to and in your composed testament and also this factor appears to be.
that the majority of the ofr remains in the dirt in the residence are the outcome of Oh events.
and home products did I understand that properly yes that is our the. recommendations we pulled to show the web link in between the the house items and also.
direct exposure of home homeowners although reference 16 is to refer to the.
truth that even more twice as numerous PS PBDEs were included in household furnishings than.
to automobiles great as well as mr.

But are however very as well as overmuch exposed people of the. I ' m extremely worried that the lack of controls in the u.s. enables the disposing. Organa chlorine argon or bromine fire resistants in those 4 categories of. 50 I assume the factor that it ' s not accessible has less to do with the truth.
I desire to make certain that I my understanding is that you ' ve done.Simon I know general you claimed
that you support the package as well as that you think that this band would be extremely
broad yet I wish to see if I can focus on that particular a little due to the fact that the package
is I recognize it certainly discovered that ofr s are hazardous that they migrate from
products as well as items with greater ofr s are related to spaces with hot with
extra dust and that AFR'' s in blood and if there are greater or fires in blood that
is related to unfavorable health and wellness effect do you agree with all of that put on'' t. stress I ' ll reach your argument but do you concur with that thus far no and I.
believe I simply wanted to clarify I think it'' s very clear in the staff record that. there is a recognition there not all of those substances are toxic as well as there'' s. even a graph that kind of suggested as well as I ask forgiveness since I phrased that.
improperly all of the oil fires about which we have.
data revealed that they are our hazardous proper no as well as I put on'' t concur with that. okay which as well as you'' re which ones are not hazardous that have actually been examined yes I assume.
there'' s a number that'which ' s among our problems regarding the broad method is. that you ' re regulating essentially you understand relying on 25 to 85 various.
chemicals so you'' re and you you ' re saying that there are studies of non non. polymeric additive organo halogens that reveal that several of them are secure and also not. harmful is that what you'' re informing us yes the only witness that claimed that today so.
if you can offer those dyes that would certainly be terrific as well as however you agree that if.
we'' ve done researches of you you differ keeping that too.
I would certainly say you'' d have to clarify what the source of the ofr
is where'it. shouldn ' t it might not simply be furnishings it could be various other resources which ' s an. If you, vital decision and also that was the basis about my concern is that.
have furniture with high o FRS do you agree or differ that it'' s connected. with higher o FRS and also the dust in the space again I would certainly say it relies on the.
O FRS and also the application that it'' s made use of and also if there are higher or fires in.
the room in an area and also individuals reside in that room would you agree that with children.
it'' s related to higher o FRS in the blood in the pee I simply intend to be.
clear I'' m not trying to prevent your concern I'' m attempting to in fact clear up.
various no FAR'' s are utilized in various matrices they'' ve been a cut or move.
or be sent out at different levels or maybe not at all and also that'' s why I ' m simply. envision to claim so extensively that of course then and I tried to make it clear at the.
beginning of the day that when I say ofr is I'' m referring to specifically what we'' re. taking care of in this request non polymeric additive organo halogens as well as.
of those you do concur it'' s a threat you differ it ' s as well as. If it ' s in furnishings at elevated prices that it ' s linked with, it captured it. the dirt rising in the space and you disagree that it ' s connected with. raised blood and pee is that reasonable to state. just to clarify disagree that all ofr is existing a threat and also that all ofr.
connected recognize of any of those that that we have are managing if you.
might inform us what studies would support what your sight is since it''
s so. different than any person who'' s affirmed today thanks.
Thank You commissioner kay thank you madam chair I''

m mr.Simon I think you.
did state at the very least among them though as well as fix me please if I'' m wrong TBB.
PA did you state that as one that had been exonerated and also what'' s your. understanding of this of the studies associated with that certain chemical. that you know generally when you check out the overall direct exposure for that chemical.
does absent a danger to human wellness or the environment and also we'' ve done some.
sustaining scientific research that takes a look at meta-analysis of the data that'' s out. there just to make use of that as an instance levels of TB BPA that are out there are. 7 million times below those that would likely create wellness impacts so they.
assume that'' s simply a really concrete example and also that'' s what led governments.
like Canada an EU to make that decision I think it'' s crucial
to. note though that ongoing research study is always suitable as well as you constantly wish to make.
sure that I know there is recurring study connected with television BPA.
funded by the market and likewise by federal governments and so it is something that.
we should consider however there'' s plainly been a regulatory determination there.
and you referred earlier to the staff graph I think and I'' m taking a look at web page.
99 of the staff rundown as well as under that on the graph where it states TB BPA it.
mark off toxicity linked with acute poisoning persistent poisoning.
reproductive development toxicity neurotoxicity.
genetic poisoning as well as persistent cough Yuman poisoning and also labels that as a chronic.
toxic chemical and also so how does that square with your view that it has been.
discovered not to be harmful as with any kind of chemical it'' s a function of.
I believe for what it ' s worth what I was referring to was in the team chart as.
you look at the exposure degrees that does not offer a danger which was.
that was what I was pointing to so say sorry for any confusion there so.
what'' s distinct regarding tbv PA that also if it'' s toxic it there ' s no direct exposure
to it'. well I think it ' s a combination of it there ' s varying levels of toxicity as well as.

to make sure that ' s one and also'I think also dr.Stapleton referenced that to ensure that ' s. that ' s number one so simply due to the fact that something
has the potential to be poisonous. it could really various ranges maybe a lot more toxic much less hazardous as well as the 2nd. is the exposure item as well as so we think it'' s clear that television BPA is not at levels.
of exposure and that'' s why I hesitated in response to Commissioner.
Robinson'' s question to immediately claim that all of the much has actually created huge.
degrees of exposure so the research study that you'' re describing or the metadata.
meta-analysis related to the research studies if I recognize you properly.
wear'' t differ as much with the poisoning yet more with the lack of.
exposure is that what you'' re stating absolutely as well as in your mind those.
researches pardon this chemical as well as eliminate it from factor to consider.
I believe timeless toxicology would claim that if you'' re not subjected as something.
at a level that'' s likely to create negative impacts that yes as well as dr. Stapleton do you the characterization about the exposure connected with that.
chemical I assume there'' s a thank you for asking me since there ' s a vital point. that ' s missing right here is that television BPA even more than ninety percent of its use it is a.
high production quantity chemical is utilized in a responsive kind which indicates it'' s. chemically bound to the products it'' s connected to and less likely to leach out.
causing exposure which is why that exposure threat is so little 40 B BPA if.
that were to transform and be utilized a lot more in an additive kind direct exposure would certainly.
Go up it depends on exactly how it'' s utilized in the item as well as that relates to.
I think I just on concept we ' re unwilling to see below you ' ve made. Compensation but that ' s one of the issues we have with the application overall and also.
issue of aid writeable replacement as well as ensuring we'' re thoughtful as we.
check out product style I regret my time has expired thanks thank you really.
much commissioner a lot more heroic no inquiries thanks at that'' s this time.
after that we will certainly end this 5th panel and once again our genuine recognition to all of.
you for being here for your willingness to affirm and we will take a couple of.
minutes to change into our 6th panel and once more my genuine thanks thank you invite back to this public meeting.
we'' re mosting likely to proceed our final panel for today and also the six individuals who are.
joining us this afternoon get on the phone so we have no one sitting in front.
If we could, of us however allow me state to all of you and thank you for being here.
just I'' ll call your name if you can simply verify with me that you are on the.
line that would be really helpful miss out on burrow Meier excellent mid-day hi.
thank you dr.Singler yes

I'' m below thanks and also can I confirm that you are going.
to have a PowerPoint to show us that we have it but I that you'' re preparation on.
showing it indeed that'' s appropriate thank you quite dr. diamond indeed I'' m. below thanks miss Curtis I'' m below dr. Hirschmann.
thank you and as well as miss dr.

PA did you point out that as one that had been pardoned as well as what'' s your. I think for what it ' s worth what I was referring to was in the personnel graph as. That ' s one and also'I think even dr.Stapleton referenced that so that ' s. that ' s number one so simply since something
has the potential possible be toxicHarmful I think I just on principle we ' re hesitant to see below you ' ve made. Compensation however that ' s one of the concerns we have with the petition total as well as. latency period in between direct exposure and onset of the illness and also.
large variety of chemicals we are revealed to on a daily basis there is ample.
toxicological proof of injury to allow and also as a matter of fact to call for the Compensation to.
act chemical market has long said that if you can'' t show direct
causation. you can'' t regulate the chemical we require just take a look at the example of cigarette use.
to see the outcomes of that method millions dead while the tobacco industry.
remains to make numerous numerous bucks in revenue the Commission.
need to not adopt the exact same unreasonably high and also inevitably dangerous criterion.
below absence of data on social expense of ailment the personnel reefing competes that.
they do not have adequate data to do a cost-benefit analysis for approving the.
petition one minute filling it will constantly be less complicated to record the.
hard expense to sector of outlawing chemicals from particular items than it.
is to establish the financial benefit of disease prevention yet we can absolutely.
track numerous of the clinical as well as lost performance prices for disease like.
bust cancer cells yet how does one evaluate the social price of the pain and.
suffering of the numerous ladies and males and their households encountering a bust.
cancer cells medical diagnosis we submit that those integrated prices much exceed whatever.
economic influence there might get on manufacturers being asked to just quit.
utilizing these chemicals in summary denying the position would certainly be a failure by the.
Compensation to sufficiently safeguard public health we urge the Compensation to turn down.
the personnel rundown package as well as authorized the application as it was sent thank.
you once more for this opportunity to affirm thanks really much dr.Singler.

thanks for the opportunity to indicate today my name is Venus engli and I am.
director of research translation at the program on reproductive wellness of the.
environment at University of California San Francisco my study concentrates on.
chemicals in the indoor setting as well as influence on at risk populaces such.
as expectant females and youngsters next slide.
why do clergymans objective is to produce a much healthier atmosphere for human.
reproduction and also growth with advancing scientific query scientific.
care and health plans that avoid exposures to hazardous chemicals in our.
environment following slide the government dangerous materials Act to find the.
– material as you see right here and also today I'' ll be concentrating on the second component the.
truth that exposure to dangerous compound takes place as an outcome of.
traditional usage next slide so starting in the center of the slide we understand that.
fire retardants in indoor air and also dirt leads to human exposures as we'' ve heard.
from numerous other testifiers today and also we intend to recognize sort of one step back.
from that how the products concerned in this petition electronics kids'' s. items furnishings as well as mattresses add to fire retardants in interior.
air and dirt and the subsequent human direct exposures next slide slide 5 so.
researchers make use of a structure called the Bradford Hill variables to assess the.
evidence linking the prospective domino effect so I'' ll briefly evaluate a few of.
the proof associating to the vital aspects today and refer the Payment.
commissioners to my full created testament for a much more thorough.
summary so the aspects are do we see a slope of result as well as what'' s the. strength of the result is it statistically substantial. is there a rational timing of the event does the reason come before the impact is.
there uniformity between studies and do we have speculative evidence that''
s in. coherence with the real-world observations next slide in this chart.
we'' re checking out the H BCD degree as well as dust on the left hand side as well as distance.
from television under H BCD degrees are highest as well as dirt directly by.
the television as well as levels drop substantially as you relocate away from the television as well as other.
researches had comparable searchings for with furniture and also bed mattress this gradient.
of effect highly recommends that these items are the sources of the.
flame-retardant emissions to dust next slide slide 7 in this research study researchers.
gathered dust examples from mattresses as well as floors inside homes as well as they discovered a.
statistically significant strong relationship between levels of brominated.
flame resistants as well as cushion dust and Florida the stamina of this result.
recommends that the bed mattress is a major contributor to the flame-retardant.
filling in dust as well as various other researches made comparable findings.
for furnishings electronics and also youngsters'' s items following slide in these graphs.
we'' re looking at PB de degrees and dust on the left hand side in connection with.
When you eliminate, whether or not items are present so in blue you can see that.
an item having fire retardants the TV the PB de degrees dropped.
drastically by practically 80% on the various other hand you can see in orange that when you.
put a new item having fire resistants right into the room the cushion PB.
de degrees increased substantially by regarding 2,000 percent so this extremely clear.
connection between the timing of the assumed cause-and-effect strongly.
recommend that these items are major factors to fire resistant loading.
as well as dust and comparable outcomes have been discovered with various other sort of products and also.
various other research studies next slide slide 9 researches on these items on fire retardant.
emissions were performed in the US Canada the EU and New Zealand in.
various type of indoor environments residences youngster care facilities workplaces and.
with different sort of products these researches all made comparable findings around.
flame retardant one minute remaining right into interior dirt and also air and also the.
uniformity of outcomes throughout the different research studies raises our.
confidence in the findings next slide and then finally we see this comprehensibility.
between the outcomes of the research laboratory studies as well as actual world observations in.
this research the scientists found that the stool and also experimental chamber produced.
fire retardants directly right into the chamber as well as they located similar outcomes.
with various other kinds of items so this follows the real-world research studies.
that locate these products add to flame retardant emissions next slide in.
conclusion taking into consideration the variables scientists utilized to review widgets.
affiliations in between domino effect there is a strong body of proof proving.
that these items add to fire resistant degrees indoors in subsequent.
human exposures this proof likewise talks with the reality that eliminating these.
flame-retardant products from interior environment has the potential to.
considerably lower human exposures to these chemicals thanks quite for.
the chance – fine thank you quite dr.Diamond.

Thank You chair Buerkle and commissioners for the possibility to.
talk on behalf of the request I'' m a teacher of ecological chemistry at.
the College of Toronto in Canada I'' ve been publishing and also researching on.
organo halogen fire resistants or ofr given that the very early 2000s.
several of the testimony today has mentioned my laboratories function I will talk on 3 factors.
first off why ought to the Commission act to manage ofr s as a class all ofr.
semi-volatile organic substances or s VOCs s EO CS that are additive to a.
polymer certainly and also naturally move from their origin of that.
polymer to the surrounding environment that consists of people migration of.
audited ofr is is an inherent residential property of the ofr subclass they were speaking.
of movement from 4 item groups to the surrounding.
setting inside your home where these products are situated additive ofr is moved to.
preferentially collect in individuals as well as other fatty kinds of products inside.
migration can be through air or by direct transfer from the product.
especially those natural or fatty abundant components as well as doors are our skin our.
clothes as well as dirt once more migration of additive ofr s from products as well as.
build-up on skin clothing and dirt is foreseeable as well as inevitable ultimately.
ofr s and other chemicals released inside are persistent due to limited.
chemical deterioration pathways this leads me to aim number two the connection.
in between degrees of low FRS as well as products as well as dirt when a request was tabled in.
2015 to our ideal expertise it was dust there was a main source of human.
direct exposure to ofr as a course yet research study including our own has advanced our.
understanding of direct exposure paths past that of dirt dust is likely a surrogate.
or proxy for indoor origins of ofr direct exposure rather we currently recognize it ofr.
s are transferred directly from items to hands followed by hand to mouth.
tact also our hands grab polluted workdesks once again moved by hand to mouth.
get in touch with we also understand that ofr is launched from products into air in.
evitable and also predictably gather on all.
bearskin and on our clothing oh FRS on skin and clothing add to direct exposure.
to summarize we now recognize that o FRS follow multiple paths of exposure.
inside your home as well as the dust is a practical surrogate for exposure and the four.
product courses I desire to concentrate on o FRS and also electronic casings all electronic.
items that we tested which is nearly 300 items include additive oh f RS in.
their cases we discovered a statistically significant relationship in between degrees.
of o FRS in items and Oh F RS and cleans that'' s a basi Adele 2016 our.
current data by yang Adele 2017 show a connection between ofr swipe from the.
surfaces of portable electronic devices and their owners hands these gadgets.
consist of mobile phone tablets residence phones as well as laptops I'' ve been enjoying the.
process today on YouTube I see lots of people are holding a cell phone I see.
the children that ever before more youthful ages are handling electronic gadgets like cell.
phones which contain ofr s the transfer of Oh F bars from handheld electronic.
devices to young children even young children and to everybody handling these gadgets is.
inescapable I appreciate the requirement to have fire security testament today has actually consisted of.
comments at O FRS raised the safety and security of electronic products I welcome.
peer-reviewed scientific evidence to show this as I am not conscious of such.
proof I wrap up by sustaining the request we understand that ofr is migrated.
from items there'' s strong proof of extensive human direct exposure to O FRS as.
complicated in one minute continuing to be aesthetic chemicals and also there are solid.
evidence of their ability to cause multiple unfavorable impacts thank you give thanks to.
you significantly miss Curtis I'' m Cathy Curtis exec supervisor of clean and.
healthy New york city we give thanks to the Compensation for the.
possibility to indicate though greater than a year and also a fifty percent has passed since we.
last have actually resisted prior to this body on this subject we continue to be convinced that it.
is essential for the Customer Product Safety and security Compensation to approve the ban of.
organo halogen fire resistants and consumer items clean as well as healthy New.
York has focused on flame-retardant chemicals for over a years as well as my work.
substantially/ dates that I led job to pass the New york city state legislation banning.
Penta as well as octa and developing a task pressure on fire resistant safety and security to explore.
alternatives to deca c hny led the job to pass a very first in country ban on TC EP.
and also subsequent development of the legislation to consist of TDC PP in New York City state.
– carcinogens i collaborated the National Alliance for poisonous totally free fire safety and security as well as.
from 2006 to 2014 and during that period I assisted Guard federal deca BD.
phase-out advancement significant market changes and also helped work with a number of.
state degree prohibits I served on the EPA designed for the environment.
choices evaluation partnerships for both deca as well as HB c HB CD as well as was among.
two advocates with the New York State Expert Firefighters Organization.
selected to New york city'' s Job Pressure on fire retardant safety and security from 2005 to 2013.
when I talked in January 2016 I specified that 12 states did something about it on fire.
resistant chemicals since today 14 states have adopted a total amount of 33.
plans 15 states have 22 pending plans in 2017 with an overall of 23.
states either having actually passed laws or having pending legislation or both and.
In spite of state-level ofr restrictions and market moves the usage of harmful.
chemicals in home products and children'' s products continues which is why government.
activity for CPSC is called for in December 2015 the secure sofas and also more.
campaign released the report fire resistants and also furnishings dropped in.
floors leaders laggards and the drive for modification we found that of the tops.
furniture bed mattress and rug extra padding manufacturers there was a series of usage.
of flame resistant chemicals only 5 of the 14 mattress firms reported.
being without flame-retardant chemicals right here'' s what the executive summary said.
concerning cushions 5 of 14 mattress manufacturers reported not utilizing flame resistant.
chemicals 5 reported not being actively flame resistant cost-free 4 did not resource.
flame resistant totally free foam and 1 did not use clarity that their barrier was.
flame-retardant cost-free one uses flame resistants in some products and not in.
others 3 did not provide information given that the publication of that file.
none of the cushion makers have challenged these searchings for because January.
first companies reporting to Washington State under their children'' s safe. products act have reported a hundred and also ten instances of fire retardant usage in.
infant and youngsters'' s products this includes 4 reports of deca BD use.
one of which went to degrees above 10,000 components per million 2 instances of hexa.
bromo cyclododecatriene or bisphenol A – one circumstances of TDC PP and one circumstances.
of P CEP better unpublished third-party lab screening by the preparing yourself.
for child campaign which c hny works with as well as the Center for.
Environmental Health in 2016 as well as 2017 have actually discovered halogenated flame retardants.
in polyurethane foam utilized in infant products the flame retardants include.
Tris – – Bhutto oxy SL phosphate and also Tris one.
chloro – propyl phosphate finally state activities to prohibit particular fire.
retardants while essential are inadequate to avoid direct exposure to secure.
public health state task pressure records plainly show there are options to.
halogens that are budget friendly offered and also efficient additive flame retardants.
are still being one minute continuing to be are thanks additive fire resistants are.
still being reported as well as upholstered furniture bed mattress baby and kid.
products and electronic devices the 4 groups covered under the petition.
demand markets may be shifting however I'' ve not completely made the change to safer.
techniques of fire security for these factors and those mentioned by various other.
fans today healthy as well as tidy New York highly supports a decision by the.
Consumer Item Safety and security Compensation to secure to the wellness of consumers by.
banning the sale anticipate consist of organelle hallie and.
resistant chemicals thank you thanks quite mrs.Curtis dr.natural herb Smith
the hands of the mommies and also children residing in these residences toxicological data.
has demonstrated that these PB de replacements are naturally energetic.
research studies from various other scientists in the area have revealed that these substances.
can communicate with nuclear receptors recognized as p/ gamma which are associated with.
adipose emesis and also pertinent to excessive weight various other studies have actually shown that.
direct exposure throughout pregnancy has changed mother’s thyroid hormones and also generated.
liver poisoning based on my very own research and the study of others in the field.
I wrap up that in families in the US where pregnant ladies as well as children live.
there are detectable degrees of both PBDEs as well as their halogenated replacements.
children babies and fetuses are extra susceptible to the health and wellness impacts.
resulting from direct exposure to a wide array of environmental chemicals.
consisting of halogenated flame resistants consequently is my professional viewpoint.
that there is reason to be concerned that the entire course of workouts organo.
halogen flame retardants may cause injury or ailment to humans particularly.
to fetuses as well as young children as a result I support regulations created to.
stop human direct exposure to these chemicals from customer items thanks.
quite for your focus and your time thanks quite dr.Zeller.

indeed excellent mid-day as well as thanks for offering me the possibility to talk with.
you today I'' m a professor in the biology department at the University of.
Massachusetts Amherst my research study over the past 25 years has actually been concentrated on.
understanding exactly how thyroid hormonal agent manages brain development and also whether.
and also have ecological chemicals like halogenated flame retardants can.
hinder this activity its first vital to acknowledge that.
thyroid hormone is important for mind advancement in the unborn child in babies and.
in youngsters this fact is so well acknowledged that every infant born in this.
country is checked for regular functioning of the thyroid gland at birth in some.
regions of the nation as many as 1 and also 1,200 babies have low thyroid hormonal agent.
and it'' s taken into consideration a medical emergency to make certain that they are identified and also.
dealt with quickly to limit the cognitive deficiencies brought on by low thyroid hormonal agent.
during development it'' s additionally become clear that thyroid hormonal agent levels and also.
expectant women are necessary for growth of the fetus as well as this.
When the fetal thyroid, appears to be especially true in the very first trimester.
When thyroid hormonal agent is still, gland has not yet developed however.
required for mind growth my research study on halogenated flame-retardants.
such as polybrominated diphenyl ethers tetra bromo bisphenol An as well as some.
perfluorinated chemicals has shown that these chemicals can.
disrupt thyroid hormone in the creating brain however in manner ins which we.
wear'' t fully comprehend currently the only tool we need to determine whether
. these flame-retardants affect the human thyroid system is to measure blood.
levels of thyroid hormonal agent the operate in my lab in the research laboratory of others.
around the globe has actually shown that several of these chemicals can disrupt.
thyroid hormone in brain in a manner that'' s not constant with changes in.
blood levels of thyroid hormonal agent we'' ve lately increased this work to humans by.
testing whether halogenated chemicals can enter.
worry with thyroid hormone actions in the placenta we concentrated on the placenta for.
the apparent reason that it'' s a tissue that ' s available yet it ' s additionally an understood. target of thyroid hormonal agent activity and also it'' s most likely that similar results are. happening in the fetal mind in collaboration with our Canadian.
coworkers dr.Larissa taxer in

Quebec our findings are fully consistent with. the final thought that environmental chemicals most likely halogenated flame. retardants can conflict with thyroid hormonal agent activity in humans without. impacting hormone levels in the blood or in cord blood this monitoring must be. Because it suggests that, deeply concerning to everybody listening to this testimony. typical chemicals found in the home and also work environment can influence the health of our. children like a stealth bomber flying listed below the radar of the means we examine for. tests chemicals for safety or examine the impacts of these chemicals on human. health so in closing it ' s clear to me that. as well as grandchildren of vital intellectual capacity. and while these impacts may not be visible on the faces of our kids. they ' re no lesser to them individually or to our society thank you. for your focus thank you extremely'much dr.Zeller and also thanks to all of our. panelists for participating by phone the commissioners

will certainly now ask their. 5-minute round of concerns as well as I will start the concerns and also I will attend to. this to any person on the panel who would love to answer this I ' m going back to. the referral from personnel as well as the concerns that they increased primary that.'we do not have the data that would certainly permit us to ban a class of chemicals on. details chemicals and also so we Dadda there is a data space and we ' ve. heard this it ' s been kind of a recurring style throughout the day and also if'anybody. wish to talk about that I would absolutely appreciate hearing your. thoughts so this is Tom Zeller if I can leap in very rapidly with just a. very short reaction to that which is I believe that we ought to make. recommendations and laws based on what we understand not on
what we don ' t know. so the reality that there is a data gap as well as there will certainly always be data voids should. not restrict us from activity give thanks to
you thanks areum Dimond I ' d like to include. to that by claiming that we recognize the thermodynamics of how ofr is acted as well as. we understand it ' s unpreventable that they will certainly move from products as well as lead to. exposure thank you dr.Damon I presume my follow-up.
inquiry to'be to that would certainly be whether we can reveal that that direct exposure would.

rise to a harmful level that would after that create the injury which seems to be component. of the discussion today dr. Zeller I just intended to go back to what you said. If you, and also that is I apologize I just lost my train of believed on your remark. can just refresh my memory about what you simply claimed in feedback to my question. certain my my bottom line was that we need to base our laws and also our type of. Since there will, decisions on what we understand and also not on what we wear ' t know. constantly be things that we wear ' t understand one of the bottom lines that I wished to make. in my testimony is that we are currently locating that chemicals like these. halogenated fire retardants that have a chemical structure similar to that of. thyroid hormonal agent can in fact influence the developing mind in addition to other. tissues without influencing blood degrees so that indicates when the government does a. study and also
they wear ' t see an effect on blood degrees of thyroid hormone they claim.
that it ' s safe as well as I don ' t think that that ' s a legit debate. any longer thank you quite and I ' ll just comply with that up with when you ' re a. data-driven company comprehending the import and the feasible exposure and. poisoning of each chemical is necessary and I believe that is that is our struggle.
here we have to rely upon data we can ' t assume because one chemical belongs to a. class of chemicals that after that they ' re all that they are all dangerous or create a. threat to the consumer physician excuse me commissioner Adler thanks quite.
madam chairman as well as following up on that dr.Singler you ' ve just listened to the.
Chairman revealing this concern about requirement for information void fillers in your.
California office of ecological health and wellness risk assessment did
look at.
them those exposure properties as well as the poisoning residential properties that.
tendency to enter cells and also build up in fatty cells and also create toxicity dr. ruby you
claimed a variety of researches that demonstrate that exposure to HF RS.
can happen from consumption of dirt hand to mouth transferred a facial consumption. straight from air clothes and also breathing some of these exposure paths. seem more probable than others due to differential volatility of these.
chemicals does this suggest that some of these chemicals are most likely to present.
minimal or no health and wellness risks well let ' s just use apart the components there of. your question so one is the exposure and the movement course as well as the various other is. toxicity my comments were were concentrated on exposure and also yes relying on the.
specific system homes on the chemicals will differ in the tendency to partition
. onto skin versus a remain in air and also and to which we would be revealed more.
with breathing the since of the persistence and also the and the kind of the. inner organic persistence of these compounds the path of exposure does not
. appear to or a minimum of I am not conscious that the course of direct exposure information.
winces toxicity no.not poisoning I think what I ' m stating is taking the.
mix of poisoning and also the route of direct exposure does that lead you in conclusion.
that any one of the ofr s that we ' re worried about are not mosting likely to provide. an issue simply put can we still treat them as a class of course my final thought. Because of these are basic, was that we need to as well as can treat them as a course. thermodynamic properties thanks really much miss Curtis you mention the laws. of a variety of states regarding O FRS you appear cynical that state action.
that kids in Mississippi and also Indiana as well as Wyoming are not necessarily.
Thank You Commissioner Robinson thank you dr.Singhal I ' m going to direct.
these questions at you however after that dr. Hirschmann I ' d like your remarks as.
uncertainty we never have ideal information or all the data that we require to make the. decision and it ' s vital to be able to progress when faced with. unpredictability to to choose as well as put defenses in position that that are.
needed so I believe those those devices are essential as well as have been verified for.
that purpose by scientists and also other firms so I think it ' s also essential.
to consider the requirement we ' re thinking of in the decision to be
made so in. If, in this instance we ' re thinking regarding the possible to trigger injury
or you know. if these chemicals may trigger the considerable injury'or health problem and also I. think in thinking of'the degree of proof proof needed to fulfill that.
standard that these tools do supply that degree of proof that this class.
of chemicals may cause damage fine and also and if you use these well-established. scientifically accepted approaches of navigating information gaps that many. others have actually utilized why do you assume if we applied those right here it would certainly be.
appropriate to put these OU FRS right into a class I believe the as well as when you believe.
regarding creating a chemical class or classification you look at usual architectural.
or molecular or architectural functions in addition to typical direct exposure pathways and the.
Have actually relocated right into PB de substitutes but we ' re simply or we ' re behind where.
madam chair does anybody on the panel have any kind of data whatsoever or can cite any kind of. study or any kind of government searching for that would pardon any of
any kind of organ elgyn absolutely nothing we ' re hearing simply silence as well as. exactly how about dr. diamond in Canada dr. diamond one of the previous panelists. mentioned that Canada may have pardoned in organo halogen are you. familiar with that yes I am so it ' s TV BPA as well as under the Canadian chemical. administration strategy under the Canadian Environmental Security Act the. conclusion was that it the television BPA could not be categorized as hazardous however I want to. add that and I ' ll quote from the
report although there is currently restricted. direct exposure in Canada 2tb BPA and its focus presently in the. atmosphere are not a sign of damage to microorganisms in Canada there might be. If new activities were to occur so I returned to what Heather Stapleton, problems. said earlier television BPA is used 90% as a responsive flame-retardant instead of an. additive the truth that the the adjudication was based on exposure not. on threat is likely as a result of the reality that it ' s utilized as a reactive and also
not included in. flame-retardant there is some usage of t b– bpa as an additive flame-retardant. and need to that enhance then under the canadian chemical administration strategy of the. adjudicators would certainly return to that choice and reevaluate IC and this is. for you or any person else existed anything regarding the chemical framework of.
t b– BPA that would lead you to believe that if it were utilizing additive
form that. it would certainly absent a threat no one wishes to believe on that well let me ask.
Dina Singh existed I want to comment on the reverse of that in fact the. I would certainly like to echo that comment as well as there is enough proof currently of the.
thank you as well as dr.

5-minute round of questions as well as I will begin the inquiries as well as I will address. The truth that there is a data gap as well as there will certainly constantly be information voids should. California workplace of ecological wellness risk assessment did
look at. Thank You Commissioner Robinson thank you dr.Singhal I ' m going to direct.
Have moved right into PB de substitutes however we ' re just or we ' re behind where.Zola I really quite appreciate the way you defined what
our cost needs to be that we should act based upon what we understand not based on what
we don'' t recognize and also I wear ' t think that there'' s any disparity between that
as well as the suggestion that we are a data-driven company due to the fact that I believe as you check out
the information that has actually existed from the petition through the very first public
listening to the initial public comment completely through till currently I think the information is
actually frustrating and I think the data is frustrating on every single
factor as well as so one can constantly claim there'' s not enough information but in any Trier
of fact I put on'' t think that I ' m not familiar with any type of time where there ' s a 100 % evidence typical there'' s constantly going to be question whether it'' s criminal cases or civil situations or a regulatory choice and also I believe in this instance as I stated there'' s a frustrating quantity of evidence on each and every single factor and I.
don'' t concur with the characterization that the federal hazardous substances. Act does not offer us the capability to move on as a course I assume that it. plainly does give us the capacity that ' s up for us to decide how we intend to do it. If we wanted to create an exception procedure, as well as it also provides us the versatility. If it transformed out that we ended up in arresting one chemical one, at some point. organo halogen that down the line could be verified to be risk-free there ' s no factor. why we couldn ' t integrate in some process to enable that upon the appropriate evidence to be. spared definitely we have done that in the past we did not
call for proof of. each and every single plastic to have phthalates in it before.
we banned phthalates or the Congress restriction phthalates it was done across the board. as well as exemptions were created and so I I ' m hopeful that my coworkers have heard. similar to what I ' ve listened to today have actually felt the same level of concern and that. hereafter will certainly progress in a manner that ' s protective of kids in. specific and if one ' s gon na slip up if one I ' ll close on this if at. the end of the day we reflect on this decision and say we made a'mistake I ' d. far instead us make the blunder that finishes up being as well protective of youngsters than.
one that pulls short of that so thanks significantly miss Gardner thank you.
significantly miss Weintraub et cetera of your union for bringing this.
request to our attention and I wish you do it justice Commissioner cardio no. questions thank you extremely a lot allow me begin by stating thank you to this last.
number six panel today thank you for sharing and also lending your proficiency to.
this firm we substantially value your time and your initiative in preparing not. only for your created testimony but for being below through phone for this.
mid-day ' s listening to thank you all quite for the record I additionally wish to keep in mind. that along with today ' s presentations we have gotten written.
remarks from the International Sleep Products Association American Residence.
Home furnishings Alliance as well as youngsters at risk in addition to their old statement.
today ' s we additionally got added written testament from the National.
Resources Protection Council the Environment-friendly Science Plan Institute as well as the.
Once again our team that, american Chemistry Council I also desire to recognize
. has been right here with us all day and who assisted promote this fulfilling the.
workplace of the secretary consisting of Performing Assistant Alberta Mills MS rough Hammond
. our basic guidance Mary Boyle and also the offices executive director Shelley Koval.
I believe a lot of it you recognize was called into question and the thinking behind. CPSC extremely closely is that the Commission regulation is really limit what staff.
can do when they bring that rundown bundle up in reaction to a request as well as. I likewise just want to stress that the staff makes an independent judgment and also. recommendation as well as I congratulate them for offering an extremely valuable plan for. which the commissioners will base their decision upon and in enhancement to the.
minimal time aspect for replying to an application as well as making a recommendation to.
the Compensation team additionally has to take into account other concerns a few of those.
being sources and also other top priorities that the Payment has developed so.
they balance every one of those elements right into their rundown bundle to the Commission. as well as I simply wish to say thank you to all the personnel that prepared that rundown. bundle and made it an extremely beneficial paper for us as well as I think one last.
point I ' m presuming that if our toxicologist could as well as money and time.
was unlimited they ' d love to take a whack at these but it ' s just the reality. As soon as again thank you to all of you as well as, of the situation we discover ourselves in. to thank you for my colleagues of what I assume is a great and really valuable. listening to today thanks.

Act does not offer us the capability to move ahead as a class I think that it. I assume a whole lot of it you understand was called into concern and the reasoning behind. CPSC extremely carefully is that the Commission directive is really restrict what staff. I also just want to emphasize that the staff makes an independent judgment and also.

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