Hey there, everyone. Excellent morning,
great mid-day and excellent evening. It is with great satisfaction that I invite
you all from around the world to the initial public occasion
of documenta fifteen, the first episode of a collection of
conversations labelled lumbung calls. My name is Mirwan Andan,
You can call me Andan. I'' m from ruangrupa, a collective based in Jakarta, Indonesia. I ' m sitting below in Makassar, South Sulawesi. We have actually been welcomed to be the creative director of documenta fifteen documenta fifteen.
will be open on June 18, 2022. However various events as well as programmes have actually already been initiated.Lumbung calling, as

pointed out, is the extremely first occasion of our public program, which we call Meydan. lumbung calling consists of a collection of conversations with a range of guests concentrated on discovering the abundant definition of lumbung across several techniques, angles, factors of view, and contexts. Of all, allow me describe what lumbung is, as lumbung is at the really core of documenta fifteen. “” Lumbung”” is specified as a container to save farming products, frequently rice, in the form of a home on stilts with wall surfaces of woven timber or bamboo. It is an easily recognisable building in Indonesia, similar to a barn.However, lumbung goes past its physicality and it is utilized to explain shared cumulative resources
. It can be seen also as a collection of values in cosmology that defines the usual living, the typical sharing,
as a feasible practice of a culture. It is evidence of a common life marked by the spirit of collaboration and this feature can be mapped back to pre-colonial and pre-modern cultures. Below, lumbung indicates an equipment as well as also at the same time a software application. lumbung calling, the name of this program, is a phoning call to the world to our deepest social attitudes we all share and also it indicates to raise awareness on the practice of sharing, the lumbung method. Each edition of this collection is devoted to one of the lumbung worths. Today one is dedicated to Regional Support and the next ones will be Humour, Kindness, Independence, Openness, Adequacy and also Regrowth. The welcomed protagonists have encountered major obstacles and initiated true changes on different scales.Academics, cultural lobbyists, independent researchers, natural farmers as well as festival organisers, to name a few. lumbung calling will happen on the first Saturday of each month over
7 sessions from now on, this April, up until October 2021. The discussion itself will certainly last around a hr followed by a time-out as well as we will resume with inquiries from the general public. In the YouTube chat it is certainly possible to ask inquiries or write remarks that will be picked and shown our visitors. Please keep in mind that this event will certainly stay on the internet after that. I couldn ' t have desired for a much more excellent co-host, the musician', Jumana Emil Abboud, who is presently resting in Jerusalem. Jumana ' s innovative rate of interest is in narrative histories, personal and also collective stories
, as well as mythologies, especially folk stories and also their websites of being and unbeing.
College College London.
Without additional ado, I will certainly provide the word to Jumana who will present cultural Neighborhood Supports, Melani Budianta and also Armin Salassa. Jumana, it ' s yours. Thanks a lot, Andan.
Thank you for a terrific intro.
The metaphor of an anchor explains the worth of soil in our globalised, yet split, globe. Soil that enables origins to expand and links trees situated miles and miles apart.Just as trees resemble each various other ' s signals, collecting and also cultivation approaches can resonate with and be amplified by neighborhood knowledge, bringing to life new sources as well as creating'varied partnerships with time. Our guests, Melani Budianta and Armin Salassa, take a look at ways of testing incorporated designs of political, social and economic practices in discussions unfurling from the viewpoint of a seed to the tender voices of concerned moms. Melani Budianta is a Professor of Literature as well as Cultural Researches in the Professors of Humanities at the College of Indonesia as well as is a participant of the Inter-Asia Cultural Researches Society.Since the late 1980s, Budianta has actually taken on research and also composing concentrated on gender and social activism. Her articles have been released in academic journals, newspapers, and also magazines.

During the Eastern financial dilemma of 1997 as well as 1998, she participated in Indonesia ' s women ' s motion. In 2020, Melani Budianta presented her talk Lumbung Budaya Sepanjang Gang or Cultural Granaries along the Alleys, arranged by the Jakarta Arts Council. South Sulawesi, Indonesia. It ' s all your own, Melani.
It can be digital web sites, it can be books.
Often they painted the walls of their streets to create
an attractive room around them. And also next there is this worth of regrowth, of locating a system to reactivate, revive, and to create the cultural sources for the young people. They established up bookshops for youth or create a space for performance. They arrange that must do what and also how individuals share the advantage. “gotong royong”.
This is an extremely popular term that practically all Indonesians recognize, that it is the collective spirit of collaborating as well as sharing with each other. An instance of this is the urban farming initiative done by the kampung neighborhood, particularly throughout the pandemic. In this type of task, they put up timetables, graphes in
“the street, to advise people who need to When, be in cost of what and. The collective together is heightened specifically throughout the pandemic, whereby the city kampung-dwellers in the city, yet in the perimeters, try to revitalize once more their older tradition called “jimpitan”, which is to contribute a mug of rice daily from each home in order to be accumulated together and also later distributed for those who require it in the time of crisis.So this is also a kind of food protection which resembles the lumbung technique in the country towns. Although these collective initiatives are in your area secured in different neighborhoods around Indonesia, what I locate interesting in the “past four”or 5 years is that these kampungs started to get in touch with each other through an electronic social networks system and developed a larger lumbung network. One WhatsApp group can be composed of as much as 150 urban and country village neighborhoods, which do bigger cumulative activities.
Often by checking out one town and another in order to share experience and also assistance each other ' s cultural activities. In some cases specifically they do it during kampung festivals and also it is there that they share, they satisfy as well as they talk with each other. The general atmosphere of the WhatsApp team, along with the offline meeting, is generally light, lively, humour and also festivity and also enjoyable. By coming to be a member of this casual WhatsApp group of Jaringam Kampung Nusantara or Nusantara
Kampung Network, I handled to understand tales of several kampungs which I would'such as to share now. The initial is the Kampung Cempluk.Kampung Cempluk was initially a country village, which was ingested by the city expansion. So it became a metropolitan kampung bordered by a gentrified metropolitan middle-class setting. They remained in threat of being kicked out via land-grabbing as the price of land raised
. In order to conserve and also return their neighbourhood and also their neighborhood, the
homeowners created a yearly kampung celebration. It was a really bad sub-village.
as nut grinders, with a monthly revenue of less than$ 100. The village had no unique social or all-natural tourist attraction as well as was high in city usage and low in social communication. Yet after that one citizen was inspired by a TV show called “If I
were this and also I were that …” and he created a collective live-in project for Jakarta youth to experience country living.In the start no one took him seriously, however then he started to convince others, as well as lastly they handled to arrange villagers to remember and also relearn traditional video games, dance, gamelan songs, and they started to identify neighborhood villagers who can bear in mind these points as well as can show the youth their traditional culture. They share the cumulative earnings of the programme to
build usual room for town standard art. Since then the spirit of gotong royong and also functioning for cumulative benefit for all is re-installed in the town. There are “many similar efforts like that, as an example, a town in East Java
Thank you.
Jumana.
The microphone is yours.
Thanks'. Thank you really a lot for welcoming us. It ' s an honour for me to be below joining every one of you. Of all, let me begin the
description from Salassae. Salassae itself lies in Bulukumba area around 180 kilometres from Makassar, resources of the district. And also a lot of the farmers in'Salassae have
numerous kinds of plants cultivated on their dirt, such as durian, banana, cacao, and so forth. And the name of the Salassae itself comes from the old Buddhist language, which indicates'palace.Well, the palace itself no much longer exists yet only the website of once … When a website for crowning for queens and kings existed in the area. So, Salassae has its very own term to name a
practice or room to save crops such as rice, which in
the Indonesian language is called lumbung. People in Salassae made use of to call it “para”. Physically speaking, para is
a space to keep crops such as rice, corn, and more.
So, in 2011, around 20 people, former vineyard employees, came back to Salassae.
So functioning in rubber or oil hand haciendas didn ' t seem to have considerable impacts on their lives. The farmers in Salassae … the former ranch employees in Salassae came to mirror, to discover the memories of the past, which then involved the final thought of their application of organic farming. As well as after that another reflection involved the farmers who said Salassae needs to be related to as a crucial location, as important as any other places fresh

York, Jakarta or Berlin.It is likewise from this process that farmers started to value the procedure of learning. So, the idea is to produce a feeling of pride in living as well as being Salassae people. It ' s also to reverse the idea of the Environment-friendly Revolution to come back to the neighborhood values that we have. So all-natural farming is not simply a matter of technicality, but it ' s additionally a concept to establish
together with nature, which is relying upon the natural deposits to create the nourishment necessary to enhance the dirt, which is additionally originating from the location around Salassae itself.Afterwards the effect was so great, numerous people obtained their benefits in regards to the economic climate and additionally revitalized the wellness of the soil, and more. Along the way, the natural farming community in Salassae understood that the chemical farming arising from the Eco-friendly Transformation has unfavorable influence on other villages throughout Indonesia

. Driven by such reflection the need to distribute organic farming practices and understanding to make sure that the other farmers who change would then have a pathway for the facility of'Salassae as a cumulative adequate country community. The purpose of this organisation is to build the understanding
of people of organic farming. It ' s also utilized as an action, as a contact us to activity to share the idea of all-natural farming to other individuals. There was a problem the initial time we launched the organisation.

The farmers didn ' t have organisational skills. Yet it didn ' t end up being an issue for us to spread the idea of
all-natural farming to construct a much better future as well as learn.So at first
we found out just how to speak, just how to give speeches, how to be associated with the dialogue and conversation, and more. Females additionally have an important function in all markets in the culture of para in Bulukumba from reproducing the seed, cultivating the
soil, cultivating the plants, and also to gather the return itself. It is also the duty of ladies to figure out the food sovereignty, whether it must be sold or not.It ' s all the decision from our ladies. So, para worths are likewise … The procedure of para worths can also be from birth up until
fatality. 'it is the worth that we need to be submissive to identify the existence of God.
The system of para itself is translated right into cumulative activities from setting up to functioning collectively to build the centers and so forth. And likewise to mirror … to be able to make use of … to be able to pray for God and to be grateful to God, as well as so on.

In the future we hope that Salassae can be an area for discovering for everyone, it can be a cumulative research laboratory for everyone to discover the worths, additionally to exercise all-natural farming. We additionally wish that every edge of Salassae, which is around ten kilometres, can be an
asylum for everyone to discover anywhere, in every edge of Salassae. Thank you significantly.
Amazing. Thanks a lot, Armin as well as Harry. Thank you.

'that I put on ' t forget to advise our listeners today from wherever you ' re listening throughout the world, I wish to advise you that you can post your inquiries that you have for Melani and also Armin in the YouTube network as well as we ' ll be able to pick, both myself and Andan, from there and also share your concerns with our speakers.Wow, there ' s so much that ' s reverberating with me from hearing you both speak. Rationale of lumbung and the neighborhood support as well as your distinctive experiences of these two … or the primary value of what is lumbung
. And several of words that are resonating with me are the para, the concept of the para, and also the idea of the gotong royong. I wish I ' m pronouncing them. This suggestion of the cumulative working, the suggestion of the cumulative celebration and cumulative efforts, and also the notion of the cumulative initiative of not just being something which is cumulative amongst people yet additionally collective with nature. And I assume one of the very first questions I ' m actually keen to ask you'both is gotten in touch with this concept of worth. Maybe if I can ask you initially, Melani, to show to us with your lumbung experience concerning worths, and afterwards I will certainly additionally ask Armin To chat a little bit regarding
that too.Yes, you mention state very really. The gotong royong, I think, is main to this collective, collective, functioning together.
Rather we would certainly like the spirit.
These are, I think, a few of the values that are crucial. The last yet not the very least is joy of being together. I believe happiness, humour, festivity is extremely vital for Indonesians.

Without this, the cumulative lumbung gathering would not function.

Jumana, it ' s your own. It ' s all your own, Melani. They arrange who need to do what and exactly how people share the benefit. There are “several similar initiatives like that, for instance, a village in East Java
I wish I ' m pronouncing them.Whenever people integrated,
there is constantly food, there is always laughter,
constantly arts, dancing, music.So these are all integrated right into the cumulative initiative. Of training course, I need to state that each kampung is in your area anchored,
so they have local distinctions. The ones that Armin Salassa discusses as well as the ones that I chat regarding or the ones in East Indonesian islands, as an example. They each have their very own locally anchored understanding and tradition. I assume some of the values that I discussed are shared amongst all.Thank you, Jumana.
Yes, absolutely. It ' s fantastic.
And also the discovering procedure … I ' ve constantly felt the knowing process, the extra that it ' s a collective organisation, the better the understanding. So I'' m additionally interested to hear much more
They'' ll all come to be just robotics. Inquiry.
Thank you. It'' s. Thank you, Jumana.
I ' ll provide you an example of the kampung I stated in the past, the kampung in East Java called Ledokombo. Because village the Madurese language is taken into consideration to be not very trendy, according to youngsters, since it ' s related to poverty, with outdated, traditional, extremely antique, something like
that. The kids ' s club or the youngsters'' s organization they developed, actually, the kampung created, they use in fact the Madurese name, which is Tanoker, which is the Madurese word for “” cocoon””. They chose to make use of that and afterwards they began to relearn standard video games as well as actually placed a high worth on it by making it an international festival.Foreigners came as well as individuals

were coming to the
town and after that looked at the kids playing that typical game and also they really valued them. So these children finally see, “Oh, they like our culture.” “Our culture is thought about”important.” They reclaimed a feeling of satisfaction concerning their language, for their social practice. So, in that method, kids began to relearn their identity as Madurese or their local other things and typical games. This is still something that we require to strengthen, implying it ' s taking place in numerous villages.They ' re trying to re-activate, they ' re attempting to inform once more the stories of the
ancestors in the kampung heritage, and they ' ve attempted to make it modern for'the youths, to make it appropriate to their life. This is an effort'to … once again, to reclaim a sense of satisfaction. Because means the kids will really feel that it ' s fine to be ourselves, it ' s fine to have our very own cultural identification and also we boast of
it'. Something like that. Thanks, Jumana.
Remarkable to hear this, Melani. I assume it ' s wonderful to hear just how the lumbung method is in fact promoted or supported with this method with the more youthful generation.But I ' m sure
that we ' re going to proceed reviewing this and also we ' re going to also resolve the inquiries we have from

our target market after our five-minute break. We ' re going to take currently a five-minute break and also we will, when we return, resolve some of the inquiries that are being asked among our target market. Say thanks to'you, every person, so much.
NO AUDIO for 6 secs NO sound for 6 secs So, soil in our regional worth … What I imply it ' s not an allegory, It ' s an actual scientific research, which the local value lives, concerning the soil and also its problem. Speaking regarding responsibility for the dirt ' s degradation, it'mostly originates from sector, if not all of it, and manipulated nature that is sustained by the administration through its civil
and also army'solution, which then have the concept to take as much as possible gain from the land.Ironically, there is much study on land destruction lugged out below, however the federal government appears never to pay attention to it. They forget it, by the means. The inquiry concerning duty is not

to ask who is liable, but what we can do to restore the dirt, since if we depend on the federal government … Yeah. For years back then, there has actually never been a real action to restore
the deterioration of the soil.So, I intend to add some things. The international power that intends to dominate the policy in the farming industry appears to have disastrous influences as well, since the chemical farming that they recommended several years back did not simply deteriorate the soil itself but additionally infected our minds.
Likewise poisoning our minds to have accessibility to healthy foods.
To deal with the bug we count on the story of the parasite.
That is to connect with them instead of to eliminate the pest itself

. This is not a metaphor. The communication is understood in the genuine sense, connecting with the parasite. Instead of killing them, we offer the food required for the bug itself.So, with the communication with the parasite itself, such as worms, and more. Thanks, Armin, thanks, Harry. We have a question to Melani. “Thank you for the great discussions, to both the audio speakers. I would love to understand if there is a
details system that has been developed and also

implemented through the years that battles versus the asymmetric gender dynamics.” Thank you for the tough question.As we know, Indonesia is so diverse
. “We have numerous ethnic groups spread throughout the 17,000 islands. Each has their very own traditions and also each has different regional patriarchies, kinds of neighborhood patriarchy.
In various other kampungs, it ' s mixed.
So it ' s totally … really varied.
We can not generalise.
And also there is one time I helped this Ministry of Villages as well as Marginalised Locations to carry out a kampung-commoning workshop and also the lumbung activities. In the needs, we told them that we wanted at the least in each kampung that there ought to be engagement of women.Something like that was a requirement. Universities additionally, when they collaborate, they start some gender-mainstreaming program. It ' s interesting to say that a lot of the kampung-cultural activists, as they are functioning in the direction of resurgence of standard societies, they are generally the dynamic ones They are not the ones. that are really narrow-minded in practising their religion or points. I locate it intriguing that these cultural activists, specifically functioning in the arts and typical culture, are primarily modern and also they actually welcome females ' s involvement extra, and several of them are very powerful women leaders also.So, not really one organized way. It ' s partial occasionally, it comes from various directions, as well as we ' re still dealing with a lot of obstacles, specifically with the rise of religious conservativism, however numerous women ' s groups work has to do with that as well.
Islamic organisation in Indonesia, they went to encounter this team.
There are many bottom-up initiatives, as well as initiatives from various directions, to see to it that there is at least increasingly more ladies ' s participation in this lumbung initiative.Thank you.
And it likewise lives within our lives. Andan currently likewise discussed the values. Thank you.
This is to Bu Melani.
“So, how do you get over prejudice in the lumbung? In most cultures there are exclusions due to racism, homophobia, or being worried of various other people.
” Since of religious conservativism. I bear in mind in one kampung they attempted to revitalize this misconception of Dewi Sri or this myth of the siren that protects the harvest, etc.And there were some religious teams that stated that this is haram, this is not meant to be done.
Yet this kampung had this brilliant concept of saying that this is only the bundle. We need it.
Actually, what we are attempting to do is to create
an understanding of environmental security, exactly how we actually value the setting. These routines, rituals in the river or in the farming area or rice field, are not religious rituals.It ' s a routine in revitalizing our respect for nature, to safeguard nature from pollution, from misuse, like Armin currently pointed out. There is this kind of negotiation by these social lobbyists against individuals that are really consistently conservative. So there are many problems. Issues not only from the religious conventional teams, it can likewise be from the fundings. There is a tale also in Tegal, regarding one hill, karst, a stunning … The kampung is in between these 2 karst mountains, extremely gorgeous.
One hill is already “purchased”,. They currently dug deep into the mountain.

for mountain climbing. For mountain climbing as a choice.
to a kind of tourist, ecotourism.
In this way they can save one hill. So there are numerous, numerous difficulties. that are … Especially throughout the pandemic,. there are various other troubles. Those that live on ecotourism throughout the pandemic.
There are several other … numerous challenges.Joining the social media kampung network. When one kampung has a problem,. They could share expertise together.
There are a great deal of troubles,. there are a lot of … Sometimes they need to retreat one action.
in order to go forwards, but I ' m very
happy to see how tough and how full of spirit. these kampung activities are.
Thanks. I likewise wish to resemble what Melani … -Thank you, Melani. I also intend to include to. what Melani discussed. A few of the physicalities of lumbung. are already going away. In some contexts in Indonesia, since Indonesia is a nation.
They still have this lumbung structure.
Or the same as with the lumbung. The documenta fifteen team is preparing to.
accumulate the lumbung neighborhood in Kassel. Thank you for the question,.
because likewise it ' s the … One of the plans. that we ' ve had from the start … Building lumbung is not … It will be begun both from Kassel. and also from Indonesia, and after that the existing of ruruHaus … If you are in Kassel now and then you are.
passing by before ruruHaus, you will see the ruruHaus, which is just one of the platforms. that we produced since in 2014 to begin this
lumbung Kassel. As well as after that we are functioning.
with some efforts in Kassel. 2 of our buddies,.
Reza Afisina and Iswanto Hartono, have actually already existed given that in 2014 to service this plan of structure. a lumbung area in Kassel. This is additionally part of the important things.
that we are talking about currently, due to the fact that we

believe.
Yeah, of training course. There are really likewise currently.
Andrea Linnenkohl and Ayşe Güleç, who are likewise component of the creative group. Thank you, Andan. We have an inquiry for Armin.
or picking up from the abroad activities?” All-natural
farming is just one part of. the regional values and beliefs

in Salassae. There are numerous others … There are many regional values. in Salassae itself. When we were, one for practise is.
There is no gap between them. In the organisation there is. All of them are started.
We don ' t have voting and elections.” When we desire to make decisions.
Setting up, assembly, as well as no voting. An inquiry which is … He states, “What photo do you have. This is extremely intriguing because … Perhaps we can … Perhaps Armin Salassa can share his stories on the principle of God in the cosmology.
Thank you.

It ' s impressive. I'' m likewise interested to listen to more
They'' ll all become just robots. It'' s. In other kampungs, it ' s mixed.They are sitting in Makassar. Melani is resting in Jakarta. Jumana is sitting in Jerusalem.
Many thanks so a lot.

Melani Budianta and Armin Salassa. They are sitting in Makassar. Melani is sitting in Jakarta. Jumana is resting in Jerusalem. Be secure and also remain healthy and balanced.

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