>> > > EXCELLENT AFTERNOON, EVERY PERSON. WELCOME TO THE DURHAM PREPARATION COMMISSION. GOOD TO HAVE YOU RIGHT HERE THIS NIGHT. THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE DURHAM PREPARATION COMPENSATION HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED BY THE CITY BOARD AND THE REGION BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AS AN BOARD OF ADVISERS TO THE CHOSEN AUTHORITIES. YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THE ELECTED AUTHORITIES HAVE THE LAST WORD ON ANY CONCERN BEFORE US TONIGHT. IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON AN SCHEDULE PRODUCT TONIGHT, PLEASE GO TO THE TABLE TO MY LEFT AND REGISTER TO SPEAK. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLAINLY WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM. PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY AND INTO THE MICROPHONE. EACH SIDE– THOSE TALKING IN SUPPORT OF AN PRODUCT AND THOSE SPEAKING IN RESISTANCE TO AN THING– WILL CERTAINLY HAVE 10 MINS TO PRESENT FOR EVERY SIDE.FINALLY, ALL MOVEMENTS ARE MENTIONED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE SO IF A MOVEMENT FAILS OR CONNECTIONS, THE REFERRAL IS FOR REJECTION. LASTLY, TONIGHT, YOU'' LL SEE AT THE VERY END WE HAVE 2 ITEMS THAT ARE INFORMATIONAL-ONLY ITEMS. WE'' LL BE GETTING A DISCUSSION ON THIS THING TONIGHTING AND COMMISSIONERS WILL CERTAINLY HAVE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS OR OFFER ANY REMARKS, BUT THOSE THINGS WILL BE COMING BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING WHERE THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE THE CHANCE FOR PUBLIC INPUT. IF THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT PASSION YOU, WE'' RE GLAD YOU ' RE RIGHT HERE TONIGHT TO GET THE DETAILS WITH United States BUT WE MOTIVATE YOU TO COME BACK AT A FUTURE CONFERENCE TO OFFER YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THANKS ONCE AGAIN FOR COMING. MAY WE HAVE ROLL TELEPHONE CALL, PLEASE? [ROLL PHONE CALL] >> > > COMMISSIONER SATTERFIELD IS EXCUSED. >> > > COMMISSIONER BAKE ER IS CONCERNING 15 MINUTES LATE; HE'' LL BE RIGHT HERE. >> > CONTAINER WE HAVE A MOTION TO FORMALLY E EXCUSE COMMISSIONER SATTERFIELD.
>> > > SO MOVED >>. >> > > SECOND. > > CORRECTLY MOVED AND SECONDED. DONE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE'' LL SEE TO IT WE RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER BAKER WHEN HE GETS HERE. AUTHORIZATION OF THE MINUTES AND UNIFORMITY DECLARATIONS FROM NOVEMBER 13TH, 2018, CONFERENCE. COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. >> > > I HAVE SMALL IMPROVEMENT TO THE MINTES. AT NOVEMBER MEETING, LAURA WOODS PRESENTED THE EXAMINATION AND ASSESSMENT REPORT AND SCOTT WHITEMAN GAVE US AN UPDATE AND NEITHER OF TOSE STAFF MEMBERS ARE LISTED UNDER STAFF EXISTING. >> > > THAT ' S KEPT IN MIND. THANKS FOR THOSE. >> > > ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MINUTES OR THE CONSISTENCY STATEMENTS? >> > > I HAVE A COMMENT. I BELIEVE IT'' S ALREADY BEEN SOMEWHAT CORRECTED BUT I AS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT COMMISSIONER DURKIN'' S NAME– SHE DESERVES A LOCATION TO HER OWN, BUT FO THE PAST, OH, PAIR MONTHS, SHE'' S BEEN DETAILED NEXT TO– SHOOT.SHE ' S BEEN NOTED NEXT TO THE CHAIRMAN, BUT I SEE– >> > >'WE ' LL PAY INTEREST TO THAT, THANK YOU. WE'' LL MAKE CERTAIN WE'DON ' T DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. >> > > ALL RIGHT. > > ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS? MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINS AND CONSISTENCY DECLARATIONS AS AMENDED. >> > > SECOND >>. > > MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN SUPPORT, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? TERRIFIC. MOVEMENT PASSES WITH ONE VOICE. PRIOR TO WE GET TO ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SCHEDULE, I DID INTEND TO TAKE A MINUTE AND WELCOME NEWEST COMMISSIONER, DAVID MORGAN. THIS IS HIS FIRST CONFERENCE SO WELCOME ABOARD AND, DAVID, AS YOU UNDERSTAND, THIS IS OUR DECEMBER MEETING. BECAUSE OF BAD WEATHER CONDITION SO WE ADMIRE YOUR COMMITMENT, you ACTUALLY REVEALED UP WHEN IT WAS CANCELLED. YOU'' RE WELCOME TO HAVE THE FLOOR AND MAKE ANY WELCOMING STATEMENTS. >> > > JUST WISHED TO SAY I REJOICED TO BE ON THE BOARD AND ANTICIPATE SERVING WITH Y'' >> ALL. > > MANY THANKS SIGNIFICANTLY. >> > ANY CHANGES TO TONIGHT'' S SCHEDULE? >> > COMMISSIONER, PERSONNEL HAS NO ADJUSTMENT TO THE AGENDA.WE WOULD LOVE TO
ADD THAT ALL LAWFUL REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN LUGGED OUT ACCORDING TO STATE AND LOCAL LEGISLATION FOR NOTIFY KIEGSS AND THOSE SWORN STATEMENTS ON FILE IN THE INTENDING DEPARTMENT. > > GREAT. THANK YOU QUITE. >> COMMISSIONER BRINE. > > AGENDA AS PRSENT ARED >>, MOVED. > > SECOND. >> > > ACTIVITY AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. FANTASTIC. TONIGHT WE HAVE THREE ZONING MAP ADJUSTMENTS AND AFTER THAT WE HAVE OUR TWO INFO THINGS. SUGGESTION, WE'' LL REUNITE ON TUESDAY WHICH IS REGULAR MEETING. THIS IS CONFERENCE TO OFFSET DECEMBER 11th MEETING THAT WE CANCELLED BECAUSE OF SNOW. FIRST THING IS: 7. PUBLIC HEARING: ZONING MAP MODIFICATION. 7. I. Z1800024 KINGS CHILDREN INN. REPORT.TART WITH THE PERSONNEL – AGAIN, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN SUBSCRIBING TO TALK ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS, PLEASE DO SO. >> > > GOOD NIGHT.'I ' LL BE OFFERING Z 1800024 KI KINGS DAUGHTERS INN. CANDIDATE IS COLIN CROSSMAN. THIS.603 ACRES WEBSITE IS LOW CAUGHTED 204 NORTH BUCHANAN BOULEVARD WITHIN STATE PURVIEW. CANDIDATE CHANGE FROM RU 5 AND RUM TO RUM, NO GROWTH PLAN ASSOCIATED.P RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED MEDIUM THICKNESS RESIDENTIAL ON THE FUTURE LAND USAGE MAP. THE SITE IS ADJACENT TO MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS UTILIZES AND FIGHT IT OUT UNIVERSITY IS LOCATED TO THE WEST. CANDIDATE RECOMMENDS TO CHANGE RU 5 AND RUM ZONING TO RUM. RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DESIGNATED TOOL RESIDENTIAL REGULAR WITH ZONING REZONING DEMAND. DIMENSIONAL DEFINITION RIGHT HERE, MAXIMUM DENSITY 12 UNITS PER ACRE. MINIMUM STREET BACKYARD FIVE FEET, 5 BACKYARD 8 FEET AND REAR AT 20 FEET. RUM CURRENT CLASSIFICATION– ON FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND APPLICABLE POLICIES. REGULAR WITH PLANS 2.3.1 A AS PROPOSED RUM ZONING ADJOINS SAME RUM ZONING. 2.3.2 A EXISTING FROM STRUCTURE SUFFICE TO FIT. MORE DETAILS OFFERED IN REPORT. PERSONNEL IDENTIFY THIS IS REQUEST IS REGULAR WITH DETAILED PLAN AND OTHER PLANS AND ORDINANCES.AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. > > THANKS. AT THIS POINT, WE ' LL RELOCATE TO OPEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE SUBSCRIBED TO TALK. IN> SUPPORT, MR. DANIEL JEWELL. AGAINST OR ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE AS IT SAYS RIGHT HERE IS STACY MURPHY. EACH SIDE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE 10 MINUTES. GEPSZING WER NOT GOING REQUIREMENT THAT MUCH. > > MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE, DANIEL JEWELL, I ' M GOING TO LET MS. MURPHY FIRST MAKE HER DEMAND AND SIMPLY TO LET YOU UNDERSTAND, I ' M HERE >> ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND WE REMAIN IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEMAND THAT SHE ' S REGARDING TO MAKE. > > MANY THANKS. > > STACY MURPHY. BOARD MET 3 TIMES TO DISCUSS THIS PROBLEM. ONE IN DCEMBER CONFERENCE SOME WORRIED NEIGHBORS BROUGHT IT TO OUR >> ATTENTION, >> THEN WE HAD A SNOWSTORM AND SUB COMMITTEE MET WITH DETAILS, AFTER THAT HOLLY UH DAYS, AND ONE POINT THE BOARD [INDISTINCT] IT WAS A CHALLENGING HOME IDENTIFY ALL THE VARIOUS PROBLEMS. SOME SPECIFIC COVENANTS ON THE ACTIONS OF SALE KEEPING THAT PROPERTY THAT OFFERS PROTECTION.THERE ' S A HISTORICAL LANDMARK SEPARATION WHICH SUPPLIED LIMITATIONS, THEN THERE ' S ZONING MODIFICATIONS WHICH OPENS UP AND AUH LEAVEUATES ADDED POSSIBILITIES FOR THE PROSPECTIVE SALE OF THIS BUILDING. IT ' S A COMPLEX CONCERNS. I THINK THE BOARD IS'[ INDISTINCT] UNDERSTANDING AS A RESULT OF COMPLICATED PROBLEM AND WE HAVE THE vacation and the snow storm UHS, WE FEELING'LIKE IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR EVERYBODY IF THERE ' S EVEN MORE TIME FOR THE AREA AND MODERATE NEIGHBORS TO GET ADITIONAL UNDERSTANDING AND UNDERSTAND HOW ALL THESE THREE DIFFERENT LIMITS FEATURES TOGETHER, AND I UH FEELING CONFIDENT THAT IF A 30-DAY CONTINUANCE WAS ACCOMPLISHED THAT WE COULD GET THAT UNDERSTANDING AND IN A BETTER SETTING, SO. > > WONDERFUL. THANKS. > > DANIEL JEWELL PORTRAYING CANDIDATES, WE REMAIN IN CONTRACT WITH A ONE-CYCLE CONTINUANCE FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATION. QUESTION FOR THE PAYMENT. WE CAN MAKE THE RESTRICTIVE AGREEMENTS AVAILABLE AT
>> THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE. THOSE TO NAME A FEW THINGS STOP THE TAKING APART OF THE EXISTING HISTORIC STRUCTURE AND ALSO WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY UNDERGRADUATE HOUSING IN THE STRUCTURE, SO WE CONTAINER PROVIDE THOSE IF IT WOULD BE HANDY TO SEE THOSE. > > I ASSUME UH IT ' S CONSTANTLY EXCELLENT TO HAVE EVEN MORE DETAILS AND YOU TIN MOST LIKELY COLLABORATE WITH TEAM AND THEY CAN CONVEY THAT INFORMATION TO United States AS APPROPRIATE. > > SATISFIED TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, THANKS. > > MANY THANKS BOTH VERY MUCH. ANY INDIVIDUAL ELSE THAT WISH TO TALK THIS EVENING. THIS IS THE KINGS DAUGHTER INN CASE. BEFORE WE RELOCATE FORWARD', I WOULD SIMPLY WISH TO CHECK IN WITH PERSONNEL AND I WANT TO CLEAR UP, TIS IS A LITTLE UNIQUE AS I SAID EARLIER, WE ' RE MEETING AGAIN ON TUESDAY, SO WE ' RE >> TALKING ABOUT CONTINUING THIS UNTIL FEBRUARY 12TH CONFERENCE JUST SO WE ' RE ALL ON THE SAME WEB PAGE. > > WE WERE GOING TO SUGGEST YOU TAKE IT TO THAT MEETING AND NOT TO TUESDAY. [LAUGHTER] > > DO I NEED TO'EXAMINE THE PROCEDURES?'WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THIS PUBLIC HEARING OPEN? > > CONTINUE IT UNTIL THE DAY SPECIFIC WHICH WOULD BE FEBRUARY 12TH AND MR. MILLER INTEND TO ADD. > > BEFORE WE VOTE, IT OCCURRED TO ME WHILE THE TRINITY UH PARK FOLKS WERE MAKING DISCUSSION, SHE MENTIONED HIS TORQUE CONSERVATION COVENANTS WHICH ARE NOT ZONING MATTERS AND I BELIEVE THE OWNERS >> OF THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY HAVE GRANTED COMMITMENTS TO PRESERVATION DURHAM, WHICH BEING THE CASE, I BELIEVED IT> FAIR TO DIVULGE TO ALL OF YOU AND TO THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE WORRIED WITH THIS ISSUE THAT I UH CURRENTLY SIT ON THE BOARD OF CONSERVATION DURHAM WHICH IS THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH I THINK, HAS THIS COVENANT.ACTION COULD BE TAKEN BY THE AN -INTENDING COMPENSATION OR ULTIMATELY THE COMMON COUNCIL WHEN IT COME TO THE ZONING OF THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WOULD AFFECT THOSE COVENANTS BUT I DID THINK IT– AND I DON ' T THINK I ' M REQUIRED BY THE POLICIES AFTER KONS L STATION WITH PERSONNEL F TO RECUSE MYSELF AS A RESULT OF THIS LINK, BUT I UH THINK IT WAS ONLY FAIR OF CARE THAT I MAKE DISLOSURE TO YOU SO THAT IN TIME YOU TIN STEP MY REMARKS RECOGNIZING I ' M LINKED WITH THE COMPANY THAT HAS CONNECTION TO OUR INTEREST IN THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY P. > > EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER BRINE. > > I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOVEMENT THE IF YOU ' RE READY? > > I THINK WE ARE. > > I RELOCATE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND PROCEED THE MATTER TILL FEBRUARY 12TH CONSULTING WITH THE COMPENSATION. > >'SECONDLY. > > MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BRINE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HORNBUCKLE. WE ' LL HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE. [ROLL CALL BALLOT] ACTIVITY PASSES 11-0. >> > > THANKS. WE APPRECIATE TAKING TIME TO FUNCTION THIS RELEASE OUT AND >> WE ' LL SEE YOU ON FEBRUARY 12TH. I SIMPLY WISHED TO MAKE CERTAIN WE RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON– GOD GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. >> > > WE ' LL RELOCATE TO NEXT PRODUCT. 7. II. Z1800026 HALE ROAD DUPLEX. WE ' LL BEGIN WITH THE SAFF RECORD. > > GOODS NIGHT. CHA VEZ WITH INTENDING DEPARTMENT OFFERING Z 1800026 HALE ROAD DUPLEX.THE CANDIDATE IS MARTIN McFARLING,.345 ACRE WEBSITE LOCATED AT 1020 HALE STREET COMPRISED OF 2 GREAT DEALS. SITUATED WITHIN THE CITY UH LIMITS. CANDIDATE PROPOSES TO MODIFICATION ZONING FROM RU 5 TO RU 52. NO ADVANCEMENT FRYING PAN SURROUNDING THIS DEMAND. PROPERTY'[ INDISCERNIBLE] FUTURE LAND USE MAP REGULAR WITH ZONING REQUEST. RU 52 PERMITS [INDISCERNIBLE] WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR EXISTING DUE FLOEKS BECOME ADAPTING AND BEGIN CON FEATURE OF NEW DUPLEX ON 141. THE SITE IS SHOWN IN RED LOCATED OFF OF HALE ROAD WITHIN OLD WEST DURHAM COMMUNITY PROTECTION OVERLAY AND IN URBAN RATE. ONE AND TWO SHOWS EXISTING WEBSITE PROBLEMS. 139 HAS DUPLEX FRAMEWORKS AND 141 IS VACANT. SITE BESIDE SOLITARY HOUSEHOLD AND RESIDENTIAL MAKES USE OF. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO TRANSFORM RU 5 ZONING TO RU 52. THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS MARKED RESIDENTIAL ON FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHICH IS CONSTANT WITH REZONING REQUEST.RU 52 ZONING ARE FIGURED OUT BY REAL ESTATE TYPE AS IDENTIFIED IN UDO 7.1. AS WEBSITE PLAN WITHIN OLD WEST DURHAM AREA PROTECTION OVERLAY IT ' S SUJECT TO THEIR REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING WALK AREA 12,000 SQUARE FEET, MEANTIME WITH50 FEET. HEIGHT, 26 FEET, FLOORING AREA RATIO 12.325. THE SUGGESTED RU 52 ZONING CLASSIFICATION COMPRISES WITH MEDIUM THICKNESS HOUSE DEN ON FUTURE LAND USE MAP [INDISTINCT] AND REGULAR WITH PLAN 2.31 A AS PROPOSED RU 5 # ZONING ADJOINS EXISTING RU 52 ZONING AND EXISTING DUPLEX STRUCTURES. EFFICIENT 2.8.2 A EXISTING FRAMEWORK SUCH AS [INDISTINCT] ARE ADEQUATE POTENTIAL EFFECT. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION GIVEN INSONNING MAP MODIFICATION REPORT. PERSONNEL IDENTIFIES THIS REQUEST IS REGULAR WITH EXTENSIVE STRATEGY AND OTHER POLICIES A AND ORDINANCES.STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR AN QUESTIONS. > > MANY THANKS. WE H RELOCATE TO OPEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS SUBSCRIBED TO SPEAK. MARTY UH McFARLING IN SUPPORT AND 2 OPPOSED: JOE ARLG HOME AND WILLIAM WHIT MOORE. EACH SIDE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE TEN MINUTES, TOTAL. > > EXCELLENT NIGHT. MARTY McFARLING IN GREENSBORO, NORTH CAROLINA THOUGH I DID GROW UP IN DURHAM AND USED TO LIVE AT 1020 HALE STREET.I THINK E THE PROPOSAL IS CLEAR WHAT I ' M REQUESTING FOR. CURRENTLY, THERE ' S A DUPLEX BEHIND MY HOME. MY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS ONE DUPLEX ON ONE LOT WHICH IS NON-CONFORMING, THAT WAS DONE 1959. THE OTHER GREAT DEAL HAS BEEN VACANT EVERY SINCE SURVEYED IN 1911, NEVER BEEN BUILT ON. BASICALLY THERE ' S THREE FACTOR ARES THAT I ' M UPCOMING TO THE CITY TO PERFORM THIS. PRIMARY IS TO CORRECT THE NON-CONFORMING CONDITIONS OF EXISTING DUPLEX THAT ' S RESTING THERE.> IF THAT DUPLEX WERE TO MAKE GREATER THAN 50 %, OLD WEST DURHAM [ INDISTINCT] I COULD RESTORE SINGLE FAMILY WITHOUT– I MAY HAVE THE ABILITY TO OBTAIN DUPLEX REDONE BUT WHAT I RECOGNIZE FROM PLANNING INDIVIDUALS, THERE ' S A GREAT DEAL INVOLVED WITH TRYING TO PERFORM THAT AND GET DIFFERENCES A AND WHATEVER ELSE WOULD NEED TO INVOLVED.SECOND FUNCTION FOR THIS, ON THE VACANT LOT IS TO SUPPLY A SOLITARY FAMILY MEMBERS REAL ESTATE YUN THAT ' S A DUPLEX FOR 97-YEAR-OLD DAD THAT CURRENTLY RESIDES ON CARVER ROAD. 3RD PURPOSE FOR THIS REQUEST IS THE HIGHEST AND FINEST USE AFTER HAVING THIS ASSEMBLE OF BUILDING FOR OVER 30 YEARS. CITY WILL CERTAINLY ENABLE RU 5, 2 ZONING. RUM WOULD BE BETTER IN ALLOWING ME TO PUT A NICE-LOOKING DUPLEX UP WHICH REALLY [INDISCERNIBLE] GETTING INFO TO THAT AND PLAT, BUT TO ACCOMPLISH THAT I WOULD HAE TO TAKE APART THE EXISTING DUPLEX AND BASICALLY DEVELOP FOUR PLEX IN THE CENTER OF THE TWO LOT WHICH IS YOU ' RE SPINNING YOUR WHEELS DOING THAT
. AS I WORK ON DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ACTUALLY GET THIS DONE ADAPT OLD WEST DURHAM WHICH IS INTERESTING BUT I SEE HOW IT CANISTER BE DONE. BUT THAT ' S BASICALLY, YES, ANY QUESTIONS [ INDISTINCT] CONSERVE MY TIME FOR REBUTTAL IF THAT ' S POSSIBLE. > > THAT ' S FAIR. > > OK. > > THANKS VERY MUCH. SO MR. ARLGHOUSE AND WHITMOORE YOU HAVE COMPLETE OF TEN MINS IF YOU WOULD LOVE TO USE THAT. > > EXCELLENT EVENING, I ' M JOE ARLGHOUSE, I LIVE AT 1019 HALE ROAD WHICH IS IS STRAIGHT NEARBY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN CONCERN. I AM OPPOSED TO TRANSFORMING THE ZONING. I HAVE SOME NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE LIVED THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND THE DUPLEXES, ESPECIALLY THE DUPLEX AE CROSS THE STREET FROM ME– INDIVIDUAL ARE TRANSIENTS. THERE THEY ' RE MAYBE A YEAR OR SO AND AFTER THAT WE OBTAIN SOMEONE ELSE. IN REQUISITES OF THE ESTHETICS AND THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ME SINCE I ' M LOOKING >> FROM'MY LIVING >> ROOM STRAIGHT AT THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN INQUIRY, AND ALSO IN STIPULATIONS OF BUILDING NEIGHBORHOOD AREA, IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF WE HAD CONSISTENTLY EVEN MORE SOLITARY> HOUSEHOLD HOMES OCCUPIED BY THE OWNERS IN THE AREA. THAT ' S IDEALLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. UM, I ASSUME THAT WOULD GREATLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND I DO STRESS OVER THE WHAT MAY BE BUILT THERE SINCE I ' VE SEEN A LOT OF HOUSES, MUCH OF WHICH HAVE BEEN BUILT BY JEFF MONSEEN THAT ARE FAIRLY HUGE AND'LED United States IN THE COMMUNITY TO CREATE THE MPO THAT WAS GENERALLY RATIFIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, SO, UM, WE ' LL SEE WHAT THE CITY DECIDES, BUT I ASSUME THE SOLITARY FAMILY E HOMES INHABITED BY OWNERS IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE OPTION TO OUR COMMUNITY. > > THANKS. MR. WHITMOORE. > > 2101 EVENLY METHOD, WHICH IS THE BUILDING BEHIND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY CONCERNED. I UH THINK THE ROAD IN OUR AREA IS A MIX BEWEEN DUPLEXES AND SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS HOUSING, AND AT SOME FACTOR WE HAVE A DUPLEX ON THE GREAT DEAL ALONGSIDE THAT, THERE ' S ONE ACROSS, THERE ' S A RESIDENCE THAT ' S NEXT TO THAT AND FUNCTIONS AS A DUPLEX, AND AFTERWARDS BEHIND HERE THERE ARE TWO VARIOUS OTHER DUPLEXES, SO ANOTHER ROCKY ADVANCEMENT THE METHOD THE ZONING EXISTS, DEVELOPING TURN SPLITTING IT AND DEVELOPING IT BUT I PREFERRED TO IT STAY THE MEANS IT ' S INITIALLY ZONED AND BE A SOLITARY FAMILY. RISE THE [>>. INDISCERNIBLE] THERE UH BUT ALSO KEEP THE COMMUNITY PERSONALITY THE SAME.SO MANY THANKS. > > THANK YU. MR. McFARING, YOU HAVE ADDED TIME. WHEN WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT DURATION THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE DIRECT QUESTIONS, THEY MAY ASK YOU SPCIFIC QUESTIONS THEY MAY NOT, BUT SO YOU ' RE READY. > > THANK YOU. I ' VE OWNED THAT RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY CONSIDERING THAT THE MID 80s. THE IMAGE REVEALS IT ' S MAINTAINED QUITE WELL. I ASSUME I ' M A PROPERTY MANAGER IN UP UNTIL NOW AS HAVING AFFORD B HOUSING THAT THE ONE BEDROOM DEVICE RENTS FOR 800, TWOROOM RAENT RENTS FOR 1050 A MONTH. THE REALITY THAT I WITH ANY LUCK WILL TO THE VACANT GREAT DEAL WHICH CURRENTLY-HAS A DUPLEX BEHIND IT AND AFTERWARDS THE JEND LMAN, JOE, HAS A DUPLEX RIGHT NEXT TO HIM THAT ' S ACROSS THE LOT OR THROUGHOUT IF ROAD FROM THE EXISTING DUPLEX THAT I HAVE ON THE WHOLE LOT. HIS RESIDENCE IS THROUGHOUT FROM THE UNINHABITED LOT. I ' M TRYING TO GIVE SOMETHING BELOW FOR MY PAPA, AND LATER IN HIS LIFE FOR HIS LIFESTYLE, AND AFTER THAT ONCE MY> PAPA IS NO MORE ON THIS EARTH, THERE ' S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL DUPLEX HOME DEVICE THERE THAT I WILL CERTAINLY PROBABLY LIVE IN UNTIL THE DAY I DIE.BY THE MEANS, THERE ' S [INDISCERNIBLE] PROBABLY BE AROUND FAR WHILE, SO I REQUIRED A LOCATION TO LIVE. THAT ' S THE MAIN POINT IS HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AVAILABLE AND AS WE CANISTER SEE, BECAUSE IT ' S THE SAME METHOD WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, PROPERTIES OBTAIN BETTER AND IT TAKE CARE OF THE HOUSING TIPS SHING TO CONTINUE OLD WEST DURHAM OR RA ARE, IN A MANNER OF SPEAKING. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF I DEAL WITH ARE DUKE UNIVERSITY STUENTS, rental DEVICES ARE SHORT-TERM. IT IS A LITTLE LITTLE BIT TRANSIENT BUT OVERALL, MY GOAL AS A PROPERTY MANAGER IS'TRY TO KEEP RENTAL TENANT THERE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. I HAVE ONE THT ' S GOING TO BE
IN FOR A MONTH. I PUT ON ' T LIKE TO HAVE EMPTY UNITS. IN REGARDS TO BE ABLE TO BRING MORE REAL ESTATE STOCK TO OLD WEST DURHAM WHICH DESPERATELY REQUIRES IT, I PROVIDE THAT AT RATHER AFFORDABLE PRICE SINCE I WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE HOSES 30 YEARS EARLIER AT A SENSIBLE COST, UM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL REALLY HIGHLY FOR THIS.I ' M SORER RI THAT MY 2 NEIGHBORS HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH IT. I ANTICIPATE VARIOUS OTHER NEIGHBORS IN YOUR AREA AND THEY DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT WHATSOEVER. ANY INQUIRIES, I ' LL BE SATISFIED TO SOLUTION SOME. > > THANKS. ANYONE ELSE THAT WANT TO TALK O THIS? I PUT ON ' T SEE ANYONE ELSE SO WE ' LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANY INQUIRY OS COMMENTS FROM FELLOW COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. > > MANY THANKS. EXCUSE MY DELAY. I HAVE MULTIPLE CONCERNS BUT I ' LL ASK ONE IN HOPES THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL WITH ANY LUCK I INCREASE THE OTHER ONES.FOR THE TWO GENTLEMEN WHO ARE IN P RESISTANCE, WOULD YOU UH MIND– ONE OR BOTH– COMING TO THE MICROPHONE. I ' M WONDERING THE IF YOU ' LL RESPOND TO WHAT ARE YOUR IDEAS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHICH HAS THIS ENTIRE AREA ASSIGNED FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL GIVEN >> YOUR WORRIES REGARDING THE TRANSIENT NATURE ON THE ZONING MAP IF YOU ' RE NOT A HOMEOWNER, THERE'' S EVEN MORE TRANSIENT-TYPE BEHAVIOR.FUTURE LAND USAGE MAP HAS MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL AS CLASSIFICATION, THAT, TO ME APPEARS THAT WOULD PRESENT MORE TRANSIENT-TYPE RESIDENCE OF THIS AREA. > > SOLITARY FAMILY MEMBERS ZONING PART OF THAT STRATEGY? ISN ' T SOLITARY HOUSEHOLD PART OF THAT PLAN? I ' M FOR THE GREAT DEAL BEING SPLIT AND An ANOTHER HOUSE BEING BUILD THERE, I PREFERRED TO LITTLE BIT A SINGLE HOUSEHOLD HOME INSTEAD OF DUPLEX WHICH IS MORE LIKELY TO HAVE SOMEBODY PURCHASE IT. I LIKE INDIVIDUALS COMING AN GOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. STRONG BECAUSE WE HAVE An EXCELLENT MIX IN BETWEEN SOLITARY FAMILY AND OTHER REIN TALLS AND SERVICES AND– I DON ' T THINK YOU GET THAT LOTS OF MORE PEOPLE THEREIN BECAUSE IT ' S A DUPLEX.DUPLEX MAY HAVE 3 PEOPLE IN THERE AND A HOUSEHOLD WILL HAVE TWO GROWNUPS AND THREE CHILDREN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOT LIKE YOU ' RE GETTING EVEN MORE INDIVIDUALS IN THERE AFTER YOU CREATE THE LOT. IF YOU DON ' T DEVELOP THE WHOLE LOT– > > >> FAST FOLLOW-UP TO COMMENTS. BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING, FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS IT MED YUM THICKNESS RESIDENTIAL WHICH ALLOWS 6-12 HOME SYSTEMS PER ACRE, SO WITH THIS PROPOSALING RIGHT HERE, THAT DETERMINES TO AROUND 2-4 HOME UNITS THAT COULD BE ON THE SINGLE PART BASED ON FUTURE LAND KWUS.I ' M LOOKING AHEAD BASED REMARKS THAT YOU 2 GENTLEMEN MADE. BECAUSE SITUATION, YOU ARE BASICALLY THREE OR 4 PEOPLE WON ' T BE HOMEOWNERS ON 3.45 ACRE WHOLE LOT. SO SEEMS TO VIOLATE-SEEMS TO CONTRAST THE RESISTANCE THINGS YOU MADE SO I ' M WONDERING
IF YOU ' RE SEEING THIS AS A POTENTIAL PROBLEM FOR YOUR AREA BASED ON THE DEMAND TONIGHT. [CROSS TALK] > > COMMUNITY BEING INCREASED TO RISE DENSITY THERE. THE'HOUSE THAT ' S THERE >> IS GOING KEEP THERE. > > THAT ' S A PRESUMPTION, BUT I COULD COME INTO YOUR COMMUNITY, BUY A PROPERTY FOR WHATEVER REASON ARE, AND KNOCK IT DOWN OR IT MELTS DOWN OR SOMETHING HAPPENS AND I COULD COME PRIOR TO COMMISSION AND KWUZ THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS A WAY TO GO FROM SINGLE'FAMILY MEMBERS CITIZEN TO An EVEN MORE DENSE USAGE WITH MY REDEVELOPMENT. I ' M WONDERING, IF YOU 2 TAKEN THAT REALITY INTO ACCOUNT? > > ASK FO ZONING CHANGE AND THAT ' S WHERE WE WOULD DISCUSS WHAT EXISTED AND WHAT BENEFITED THE NEIGHBOR HOORD. IT WOULD BE An OPPORTUNITY, BUT, YOU RECOGNIZE, I SUGGEST, YOU KNOW.IT IS A POSSIBILITY, BUT IT ' S NOT– YOU TIN ' T DO IT SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DESIRED TO. YOU ' RE GOING >> TO NEED TO GO THROUGH PAYMENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH WILL CERTAINLY BE INVOLVED AND EVERYONE WILL CERTAINLY >> TALK'ABOUT WHAT ' S > > THANK YOU.HOOD. -> > MANY THANKS, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. > > MANY THANKS. I WOULD ASK IF FOLKS ARE HAVING SIDE DISCUSSIONS, IT ' S HARD TO HEAR UP BELOW. YOU ' RE WELCOME TO GO INTO TH HALL IF IT ' S GOING BE A LOUD CON VER. THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION. THANKS. > > I ' M GENERALLY IN >> ASSISTANCE OF THIS DEMAND. I BELIEVE E THAT HAVING A DUPLEX ON THIS.172 ACRE LOT MAKES A GREAT DEAL OF FEELING. AREA, YOU SPEAK ABOUT COMMUNITY PERSONALITY. I BELIEVE RIGHT CURRENTLY, MY HUNCH IS A GREAT DEAL OF OLD WEST DURHAM, MAYBE MAJORITY HAVE DUPLEXES, BUT A WHOLE LOT DO, RIGHT?
>> > > GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. > > BEFORE WE VOTE, IT TOOK PLACE TO ME WHILE THE TRINITY UH PARK FOLKS WERE MAKING PRESENTATION, SHE DISCUSSED HIS TORQUE CONSERVATION AGREEMENTS WHICH ARE NOT ZONING ISSUES AND I THINK THE OWNERS >> OF THIS BUILDING HAVE APPROVED AGREEMENTS TO CONSERVATION DURHAM, AND THAT BEING THE SITUATION, I BELIEVED IT> FAIR TO REVEAL TO ALL OF YOU AND TO THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE CONCERNED WITH THIS ISSUE THAT I UH CURRENTLY SIT ON THE BOARD OF CONSERVATION DURHAM WHICH IS THE COMPANY, WHICH I BELIEVE, HAS THIS COVENANT.ACTION COULD BE TAKEN BY THE AN -INTENDING COMMISSION OR ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO THE ZONING OF THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WOULD AFFECT THOSE COMMITMENTS BUT I DID THINK IT– AND I DON ' T THINK I ' M REQUIRED BY THE RULES AFTER KONS L STATION WITH STAFF F TO RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE OF THIS LINK, BUT I UH THINK IT WAS ONLY FAIR OF CAUTION THAT I MAKE DISLOSURE TO YOU SO THAT IN TIME YOU CAN ACTION MY COMMENTS UNDERSTANDING I ' M LINKED WITH THE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS CONNECTION TO OUR INTEREST IN THIS RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY P. > > GREAT. > > I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE An ACTIVITY THE IF YOU ' RE READY? > > I THINK WE ARE. -> > THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT RENT IN THE AREA AND I'' M UNCERTAIN THAT ELIMINATES FROM THE PERSONALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.I THINK THERE ' S OTHER THINGS THAT PROVIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. SO TO ME, I THNK IT ' S A SENSIBLE ASK FOR ONE OR 2 KEY REASONS. ONE IS THAT POINT WE'' RE GOING BE DISCUSSING LATER TODAY IS WE HAVE A LACK OF HOUSING FOR ONE ROOM SYSTEMS, RIGHT, FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO JUST REQUIRED ONE ROOM, 2 BEDROOMS IN THE CITY, AND SO TO ME, ANYTHING THAT INCREASES THE CITY WHILE THINKING ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBOR SHOOD An ADVANTAGE, THEREFORE I BELIEVE UH HAVING A DUPLEX HERE MAKES FEELING. THE OTHER THING IS, I ASSUME E THAT THIS IS THE EXAMPLE THAT IS GOOD– YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE AN MPO BELOW IS A GOOD THING.I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE INTENDED WHEN WE PASSED THE MPO, SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO BOOST DENSITY WHILE STILL TAKING INTO FACTOR TO CONSIDER THE CHAACTER. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT YOU STATED IS THAT YOU PUT ON'' T INTEND TO SEE SOMETHING THAT ' S MASSIVE, A MASSIVE HOUE, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT WOULDN ' T FIT. GREAT DEAL 141 IS 74, 94 SQUARE FEET; IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? AND SINCE WE NOW HAVE MPO THAT STATES YOU CANISTER ONLY DEVELOP TO.325%– 32.5% OF THE LOT AREA, THAT EQUATES TO An OPTIMUM OF THE 2,400 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE/DUPLEX. I THINK THAT'' S A REASONABLE-SIZE HOME IN OLD WEST DURHAM. MAY BE ABLE TO [INDISTINCT] THAT'' S An OPTIMUM THAT SOMEBODY CONTAINER DEVELOP ON THIS LOT. SO TO ME, THAT ' S A SENSIBLE SIZE DUPLEX, SO AGAIN, I BELIEVE IMPROVED DENSITY, REASONABLE INCREASE DENSITY IN THIS AREA MAKES SENSE AND FOR THAT FACTOR I ' M USUALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REQUEST. THANKS. >> > > THANKS. COMMISSIONER SALT WATER. > > THANKS. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST [INDISTINCT] FELLOW COMMISSIONER JUST STATED. I AM ADDITIONALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS SPECIFIC DEMAND. ONE REASON CORRECT NON-CONFORMING USE AND AS WER GOING TO HEAR LATER, SOME OF THE PROPOSITIONS AND I BELIEVE THEY ' RE STILL WITH ME I DON ' T KNOW WHETHER THEY TOOK DOWN THE BOARDS IN THE HALL PREVIOUSLY REGARDING INCREASING REAL ESTATE KIND IN DURHAM, BUT DUPLEXES IN VARIOUS PLACES IN WHICH THEY VRNT BEEN ALLOWED PREVIOUSLY IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED AND HAD THAT ALREADY ESSENTIALLY THIS REZONING WOULD BE UNNECESSARILY DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT WOULD MAY BY-RIGHT.
I LIKEWISE ECHO MR. AL-TURK'' S REMARK. THERE IS SOME DEFENSE INCLUDED BY THE MPO, SO A FEW OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT MAY HAVE SEEMED OUT OF CONTROL BEFORE CAN ' T HAPPEN ANYMORE, SO, THAT'' S >> ALL. > > THANK YOU'P. GENTLEMEN, YOU ' RE WELCOME TO TAKE A SEAT, WE ' LL TELEPHONE CALL YOU BACK UP IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER CONCERNS. COMMISSIONER MILLER. >> > > INQUIRIES FOR STAFF. IF I REMEMBER THE MPO PROPERLY– AND I'' M NOT CLAIMING THAT I NECESSARILY DO– IT HAS A FALL OF 32.5, BUT THEN WITHOUT REGARD TO GREAT DEAL SIZE, THERE IS A SPECIFIC MINIMAL SQUARE VIDEO FOOTAGES THAT WOULD MAY EVEN IF THE WHOLE LOT WERE SMALLER SAY THAN 7,500 SQUARE FEET, CORRECT? >> > > THAT ' S CORRECT. NO MATTER THE COMPUTED FAR, EACH PARCEL SHALL MAY AREA AND NO PARCEL SHALL EXCEED– >> > > THOSE ARE THE OUTSIDE LIMITS.THE OTHER THING I
UH REMEMBER FROM OUR MPO DISCUSSIONS IS THAT OLD WEST DURHAM, GENERALLY, PERHAPS UNLIKE SOME OTHER SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS NEIGHBORHOODS, IT IN FACT COMPLIES WITH THE MEDIUM THICKNESS RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENT OF THE THOROUGH LAND USE STRATEGY IN SO MUCH AS THE AVERAGE DENSITY THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PROBABLY BETWEEN SOMEPLACE IN BETWEEN 6 AND EIGHT HOME UNITS PER ACRE, CORRECT? >> > > I AM UNABLE TO VERIFY THAT. I WILL– NORMALLY, PER SARA YOUNG. >> > > I LISTENED TO INDIVIDUALS STATING SEVEN OR SOMETHING BUT I MIGHT BE MIS-REMEMBERING.
>> > > SARA YOUTHFUL, PREPARATION DIVISION. IT'' S SOMEPLACE THEREIN. >> > > MORE THAN 6? >> > > I BELIEVE >> SO. > > UM, AND OF PROGRAM THERE'' S NO WARRANTY THAT IF THIS REZONING UNDERGOES THAT WHAT WILL CERTAINLY BE BUILT THERE, WILL BE AFORABLE, ALTHOUGH I I VALUE MR. McFARLINGS ASSUMPTION, WE I LIKEWISE AM CONCERNED REGARDING WHAT MAY HAPPEN ON THIS PIECE OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IF WE ADJUSTMENT ZONING TO RU 52 IF EXPANDING REAL ESTATE CHOICES THAT ARE NOW OUT THERE PASS. THIS RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ESSENTIALLY 99 FEET WIDE. TWO PARCELS TOGETHER UNDER THE RU 52 MINIMUM LOT DIMENSIONS, IT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM GREAT DEAL SIZE. CANISTER YOU RESPOND TO THAT FOR RU 52? >> > > MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IS ASSISTED BY OLD WEST DURHAM AREA PROTECTION OVERLAY IN THIS LOCATION, I BELIEVE. >> > > NO, NO, DISCUSSING IF EXPANDING REAL ESTATE OPTIONS. >> > > I WOULD ACCEPT TEAM ON THAT ONE. >> >'> I ' M BAFFLED HOW MPO AND EXPANDING REAL ESTATE CHOICES WILL COLLABORATE IF THE PROPOSITION PASSES AS PROPOSED.
>> > > WE WILL CERTAINLY BE PROPOSING AMENDMENTS TO MPOs ON THE BOOKS TO SEE TO IT THERE'' S NO CON FLIBL FLIKTS BETWEEN OPTIONS BEING SUGGESTED. WE ' RE MEETING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH ALSO. >> > > WHAT ' S CURRENTLY'PROPOSED, IF IT ' S PASSED FOR RU 52 WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM WHOLE LOT> WIDTH? > > PROPOSITION WOULD BE 35 FOOT WIDE LOT WIDTH AND A 3,500 SQUARE FOOT WHOLE LOT AREA. >> > > RIGHT. IT WOULD STILL BE TWO LOTS. YOU COULDN'' T PRESS A THIRD ONE THEREIN? >> > > PROBABLY NOT, UNLESS YOU DID A VEY SMALL– THERE'' S A PROPOSITION L– WE ' LL ENTER INTO IT LATER, FLAG LOT OR SMALL RESIDENCE WHERE YOU'' RE LIMITED YOU CONTAINER FURTHER IF YOU'DO A SMALL WHOLE LOT YOU ' RE LIMITED TO SMALL RESIDENCE KIND OF POINT. > > UNDER THE EXISTING– GOING BACK TO CURRENT ZONING IF THIS IN WHICH TO HEAD TO RU 52– STRIKE THAT. UNDER THE PRESENT ZONING WHERE THIS IS RU 5, UNDER THE MPO THAT'' S BEEN EMBRACED, YOU CAN CONSTRUCT ADU FOR EVERY OF THESE 2 PROPERTIES? >> > > CORRECT. WITH SOLITARY FAMILY MEMBERS– NO, NO. IF THERE'' S A DUPLEX ON IT, YOU COULDN'' T DO AN AD. >
>> > EVEN NON-CONFORMING ONE? >> > > CORRECT. THAT ' S BEING RECOMMENDED FOR MODIFICATION ALSO. > > THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ONE LOT BUT ON THE VACANT WHOLE LOT THERE'' S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE WAY THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY'' S CURRENTLY UH DISADVANTAGE FIGURED FOR BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS HOME ON VACANT GREAT DEAL, IS THERE? >> > > REGARDING WE UNDERSTAND, YES. > >> AND IT COULD HAVE A AN ADU? >> > > CORRECT. >> > > HOW BIG >>? > > 30% OF THE PRIMARY, 30 % OF THE LOCATION OF THE PRIMARY FRAMEWORK. > > SO WE ' D HAVE TO WRK WITH CALCULUS WITH 225 WHICH APPEARS TO BEING A BRIEF THIRD.
>> > > THERE ARE ADDED STIPULATIONS– FORGOT– EXTRA PROVISIONS TO MPO THAT PRECEDE THAT. >> > > MPO ENABLES YOU TO INCREASE. >> > > A LITTLE EVEN MORE PERMISSIVE BUT IT SPEAKS ABOUT DEVICE FRAMEWORKS AS A WHOLE. >> > > SO INSTEAD OF STRUCTURE DUPLEX ON THIS ITEM OF BUILDING WHICH WOULD NOT AADU YOU COULD HAVE A SOLITARY FAMILY HOME ON ADU AND THAT COULD BE REMOVED OR ATTACHED.
>> > > PER CURRENT REQUIREMENTS, YEAH. >> > > THANKS. THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS TO STAFF. SO ACTUALLY I OPPOSE THIS REZONING. THERE'' S A LOT UP IN THE AIR FOR HOW DETAILS ARE GOING TO WOK IN THIS AREA IN THE FUTURE. PARTICULARLY AS RELATING TO RU 52 ZONING CLASSIFICATION. TODAY, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS DIVIDED BETWEEN RU 5 AND RU 52, DUPLEX AREA. I WOULD SAY IT'' S FAIR TO DEFINE AREA WHICH I'' M VERY ACQUAINTED IT BEING MOSTLY SOLITARY FAMILY MEMBERS HOMES BUT SOME OF IT DEFINITELY INVOLVE CLUSTERS OF DUPLEXES. IT'' SMY GENERAL REALLY FEELING AND GENERAL GUIDELINE THAT ZONING BOUNDARIES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS MUST LEAVE BACK LOT LINES AND NOT DOWN CENTERS OF STREETS IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY AND COMMUNITY STRUCTURE, I BELIEVE IT FUNCTIONS MUCH BETTER IF IF WE USAGE BACK LOT LINES, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE THIS WOULD CHANGE THAT, THAT WOULD BRING DIFFERENT ZONING ENTERS THROUGHOUT THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER WHICH I GENERALLY OPPOSE, AND DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS AREA HAS A BRAND-NEW APO WHICH REALLY HASN'' T'NO ONE KNOWS HOW IT ' S GOING TO WORK AND MAY ALREADY HAVE TO BE ALTERED IF WE ADOPT EXPANDED HOUSING CHOICES PROPOSAL, I WOULD LOVE TO NOT REZONE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN THIS AREA UNTIL WE SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK OUT.NOT ONLY
ARE WE THINKING ABOUT ONE OF THE MOST SUBSTANTIAL ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ZONING CODE THAT HAVE OCCURRED BECAUSE 2006 WHEN WE EMBRACED THE UDO, WE'' RE ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION INCLUDING CHANGES TO MPO WHICH WE JUST EMBRACED TO MAKE THE MPO SATISFY EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICES POINT, SO THERE'' S A LOT UP IN THE AIR. I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THE EXISTING SOEPING BOUNDARIES IN THIS COMMUNITY ALONE. NOTING THAT THIS PROPERTY PROPRIETOR, MR. FARLING CAN STILL HAVE TWO RESIDENCE UNITS ON THAT VACANT GREAT DEAL AND HELD ENDED UP WITH HOME DEVICES ON THE 2 LOTS. COULD HAVE THIS EXISTING NON-CONFORMING DUPLEX WHICH MAY THERE BY LAW AND HE COULD HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND A SIZABLE ACCESSLY HOUSE SYSTEM EITHER ATTACHED OR DETACHED FROM THAT HOME ON THE OTHER GREAT DEAL, AND THAT COULD KEEP HIS RENTAL REVENUE FLOW GOING, COULD PROVIDE REAL ESTATE FOR HIMSELF AND AGING PAPA ON INTO THE FUTURE.THAT ' S MY UNDERSTANDING. OFTEN TENDS TO KEEP UP THE LAND IN THIS INSTANCE, THEREFORE GIVEN THAT A LOT IS UP IN THE AIR AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN THROUGH A LOT IN THE LAST 15 MONTHS/TWO YEARS OVER ZONING CONSIDERATIONS, I WANT TO LEAVE THE CONCEPT BORDERS IN THE AREA ALONE UNTIL EVERYTHING GETS WORKED OUT AND WE SEE HOW THINGS ARE PERFORMANCE. TO HAVE NON-MOVABLE ASPECT OF [INDISTINCT] HAPPENING IN TERMS OF LAND USAGE IN THE LOCATION AND THE SETTING APPEARS TO ME AN IMPOSITION ON THE AREA AND QUITE FRANKLY IT'' S DIFFICULT TO FIND OUT WHAT TO ANTICIPATE, AND ZONING HAS TO DO WITH ESPECIALLY UH FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY PURCHASED THEIR HOUSE NOT ONLY THEIR CASH BUT THEIR LIVES, REASONABLE ASSUMPTION IS WHAT ZONING IS SUPPOSED TO UH SUPPLY. NOW, IT'' S EXTREMELY HARD TO KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS WILL BE AND WHAT'' S REASONABLE AND WHAT ' S NOT SENSIBLE WHEN I BELIEVE E THESE FOLKS IN NEIGHBOR HOODZ DESERVE A BREAK SO I'' LL BE BALLOT AGAINST THIS SET >>. > > THANKS. COMMISSIONER GIBBS AND AFTERWARDS COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS >>.'> > I ' M GOING TO ASSISTANCE THIS.I WAS AFRAID THIS WAS GOING AHEAD UP SINCE THE MPO WAS SET UP, AND I UNDERSTOOD IT WOULD– I DIDN'' T EXPECT IT SO SOON. THERE IS A NEED NOW WITH THIS HOMEOWNER, AND IT'' S NOT GOING BE A HIGH-RISES THAT ' S BEING BUILT OR A HUGE MULTIHOUSE. I BELIEVE WHAT IS BEING SUGGESTED IS REASONABLE, AND I, WELL, I CONCUR WITH A GREAT DEAL OF THE COMMENTS UNTIL NOW AND ALSO THE COMMENTS PRIOR TO MY SPEAKING. THERE IS SOMETHING TO IT, BUT IT ' S– IF YOU WAIT ON POINTS TO OCCUR AND ALL THE INSECTS FUNCTIONED OUT WITH MPOs AND THE RECOMMENDED ZONING MODIFICATIONS AND ALL OF THAT, MOST OF US MAY BE GONE.MR.
McFARLING WOULD LOVE TO OBTAIN SOMETHING DONE ASAP, AND I PUT ON'' T THINK IT ' S AN UNREASONABLE USAGE OF THIS SPECIFIC WHOLE LOT IN THIS FIELD. THERE ARE EVEN MORE DUPLEXES AROUND AND AS A HOME YOUNG BOY WHO MADE USE OF TO LIVE THERE AND WILL REMAIN TO– I ASSUME HE HAS THE COMMUNITY AT HEART. ANYHOW, I'' M GOING TO ASSISTANCE THIS, AND I'' LL– >> THAT ' S ALL. >> > > THANKS. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. > > I WISH TO REVIEW THE DRAWING THAT YOU BROUGHT IN. I PRESUME THAT ' S AN ELEVATION OF THE RECOMMENDED BUILDING? > > [LOW AUDIO] >> > > YOU MIGHT COME RIGHT INTO THE MICROPHONE JUST FOR PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE. THANK YOU.
>> > > THIS DRAWING WAS DONE AS A SPECULATIVE THING BEFORE I EVEN WENT AND CHATTED TO PREPARATION AND ZONING REASONING THAT POTENTIALLY IF I COULD GET A THIRD PRINT THAT WOULD FIT WITHIN THE TROUBLE TO ENSURE THAT SOLITARY VACANT LOT TODAY AND BEFORE THE MPO GOT PASSED THE HEIGHT I ASSUME WAS 31 FEET OR SOMETHING BUT AFTER TALKING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING PEOPLE, , AND Y'' ALL MIGHT HELP ME RIGHT HERE A LITTLE, SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROPOSED LAND USE THAT AREA COULD JUST BE MINIMUM 4 ACRES OR SOMETHING WAS MENTION AND I DIDN'' T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH LAND THERE TO PERFORM PLEX ON THE UNINHABITED GREAT DEAL I WOULD HAVE TO TEAR DUPLEX DOWN AND PUT A 4 PLEX THERE.DOES THAT ANSWER
YOUR INQUIRY? > > IT DOES. UM, AN IN >> REFERRAL TO MY DECLARATION, ACHIEVEMENT AS MUCH AS COMMISSIONER MILLER SPOKE, I DEFRTLY CONCUR WITH YOU IN REQUISITES OF WHERE WE ' RE GOING AND HOW WE'GO ABOUT GETTING DEVELOPMENT AND DEFINITELY GREATER THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A PET CAT AND IF YOU CONTAINER ACCOMPLISH SAME GOAL WITH REDUCING INFLUENCE ON CURRENT AREA AND I WEAR ' T SEE WHY IT CANISTER ' T BE ACHIEVED'WITHOUT SAY YOU CAN ' T USAGE THE HOME BUT YOU HAD LOTS OF SITUATIONS PRIOR TO PREVIOUSLY WHERE WE HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH CHANGING THE ZONING FOR A SPECIFIC LOCATION WITHIN THE VERY SAME AREA AND WHY THAT MUST OR MUST NOT BE ALLOWED, AND I WEAR ' T THINK THEY WERE HARMING DENSITY BY PRODUCING A SOLITARY HOUSEHOLD RESIDENCE WITHIN ACCESSLY DWAELTINGS BEHIND IT THAT COULD BE USED FOR ITS OWN HOME IF NOT STRUCTURE ON ITS OWN LOTS SO IF WE ' RE GOING TO KNOCK DOWN THE EXISTING TO ACCOMPLISH IT, WE DO THAT AND BEGINNING WITH A FRESH START AND STILL HAVE 2 SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS DWELLINGS, OFFER OR TAKE, IF THE LOT PERMITS, BUT I DEFINITELY AM BALLOT AGAINST THIS.
>> > > THANKS, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. >> > > I WILL CERTAINLY KEEP IN MIND COMMISSIONER BAKER HAS JOINED United States. GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONVERSATION FROM COMMISSIONERS ON THIS PARTICULAR THING? >> > > ONE CONCERN FOR MR. McMARLING. SIMPLY AS A SIGHT, YOU POINTED OUT DUE TO THE CONCERN ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM NATURE IN YOUR AREA; DO YOU DO LEASES OR MONTH-F TO-MONTHS WITH THESE DEVICES? >> > > NO, SIR, FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS I BEGIN WITH A MINIMUM ONE YEAR'' S LEASE.NORMALLY AUTOMATIC MONTH-TO-MONTH AFTER THAT. IF THEY NEED TO, longer-term LEASES. MOST HAVE STUCK WITH MONTH-TO-MONTH. I ' VE HAD TENANTS FOR'6 TO EIGHT YEARS. LIKE I SAID, I ATTEMPT TO STEER CLEAR OF FROM HYPNOTIC TRANCE RENTAL-TYPE CIRCUMSTANCE. I DID USED TO DO SECTION ARTH RENTALS DOCTOR SECTION EIGHT RENTALS AND THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE REASONS I GOT OUT OF IT. > > THANKS. >> > > THANK YOU >>. >> > > COMMISSIONER JOHNSON >>.'> > I ' M CURIOUS– IF ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES IS TO ADDRESS REQUIREMENT FOR EVEN MORE AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE, ASSUMING THIS IS POTENTIAL FOR MORE BUDGET-FRIENDLY HOUSING, THE CONCEPT OF NOT GRANTING THIS DEMAND UTILIZING THE EXISTING TO STILL ASSISTANCE EVEN MORE KENSTY WITH SOLITARY FAMILY HOUSE AND AFTER THAT DEVICE DWELLING TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF WHAT THE APPLICANT STATES HE NEEDS EVENTUALLY RELOCATE BACK IN, HAVE A LOCATION FOR HIS DAD, AND POTENTIALLY HIM TO MOVE BACK BUT THEN HAVE AN CHANCE TO STILL HAVE SERVICE REVENUE BY OFFERING DEVICE DWELLING– AND I RECOGNIZE THERE MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE RELATED TO THAT– BUT I'' M CURIOUS DOES ANY INDIVIDUAL OF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON YOU'' RE ACHIEVING THE GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED WHILE RESOLVING SEVERAL OF THE ISSUES THAT THE OPPOSITION HAS STATED.I ' LL
BE INTERESTED IN HEARING ANY RESPONSES THAT YOU ALL HAVE ARE. >> > > IF ANYBODY HAS COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER MILLER. >> > > ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS FOR SEVERAL YEARS AS THE STAFF GRAPH SHOWS– I THINK I HAVE IT WITH ME IF ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHES TO BE REMINDED– REAL ESTATE IN DURHAM GETS ON THE GROUND– AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE IN DURHAM GETS ON THE GROUND. SUBSIDIZED AND GOT CHARITY BEHIND IT—- NOW THIS BOUGHT UNITS DIFFERENTIALS STANDS BETWEEN 350 IS THE AVERAGE COST FOR UNITS IN 2017 VERSUS 200 IS STANDARD RATE FOR EXISTING UNITS. ANY LINE THAT CONTAINER BE DRAWN BETWEEN NEWLY BUILT OR FRESHLY DEVELOPED DENSITY IN COST. IT COULD HAPPEN BUT IT COULD HAPPEN WITH NO CHANGES TO THE ZONING CODE. I UH DON'' T THINK WE CAN RELAX THE ZONING CODE RIGHT INTO AFFORDABILITY.THAT ' S SIMPLY NOT GOING
HAPPEN. IT NEVER EVER HAS AND IT WON ' T EVER. THAT'' S NOT THE METHOD THE HOUSING MARKET FUNCTIONS. DO WE NEED UNITS? OF COURSE. CANISTER WE HAVE UNITS ANOTHER PERSON WAY WITHOUT AFFECTING AREA CHARACTER? MY PROBLEM IS, IS I PUT ON'' T SEE IT NEEDED TO TOSS THE BABY OT WITH THE BATH WATER. I THINK WHAT ZONING DOES BEST WHEN IT'' S A COMPONENT OF THIS IS IT MABLGS GOOD LOCATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE– FACET OF WHAT WE CANISTER ACCOMPLISH WITH ZONING AWAY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP ANY NEW SYSTEMS ANYWHERE AND IN THIS INSTANCE, I THINK WORRYING THE RU 52 DISTRICT WITHIN THE OLD WEST DURHAM AREA TO ITS CURRENT BOUNDARIES IS IS A BETTER METHOD TO ENTER TERMS OF PRESERVING NEIGHBORHOOD PERSONALITY WHICH IS WHAT THE MPO WAS ABOUT AND WHY WE ELECTED IT. WITHOUT NECESSARILY SACRIFICING THE CAPABILITY TO GET THICKNESS AROUND ACCORDING TO THE MPO. ONLY IN OLD WEST DURHAM CAN YOU HAVE AN ADU OF 8 HUNDRED SQUARE FEET. ALL OVER ELSE IT CAN NOT BE BIGGER THAN BAKER CLAIMED THE PRINCIPLE FRAMEWORK. LARGE RESIDENCE IN THE AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOU UH MIGHT GET ONE BIGGER BUT NU OLD WEST DURHAM AVERAGE HOME DIMENSION IS SMALL P.HERE WE COULD BUILD 800 SQUARE FOOT ADU ATTACHED TO NEW SINGLE HOUSEHOLD HOME, IT'' S ESSENTIALLY A DUPLEX. SO WHY MODIFICATION THE ZONING AND UPSET THE LONG-STANDING and well-established ZONING AND REGULATORY BORDERS IN THIS AREA? AND THREATEN ITS CHARACTER. THIS ENDS UP BEING THE BASIS FOR THE NEXT INDIVIDUAL WHO WANTS TO REZONE HIS HOME TO RU 52. I WOULD TYPICAL ZONING LIMITS, AND I WANT NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS ESPECIALLY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS– THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO WE DON'' T AREA WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS ANY LONGER, WE ZONE TO THEM, OVER THEM, THEIR ABILITY TO JOIN THE PROTESZ WE'' RE GOING DOW NOW IS EXTREMELY TOUGH. WE'' LL ALIENATED THEM WITH PROBLEMS– ZONING CODE IS COMPLICATED. THOSE PEOPLE WHO FUNCTION ALL TIME HAVE PROBLEM WITH IT. LET'' S LEE THIS ZONING BOUNDARY ALONE. IF THIS HOME OWNER WANTS INCOME FROM TWO RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS ON THIS VACANT GREAT DEAL AND LEASING REVENUE FROM TWO SERVICE UNITS IN EXISTING DUPLEX, HE CAN HAVE THAT WITHOUT CHANGING ZONING.I THINK WE
SHOULD JUST DO THIS IT'' S FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD AND I DON'' T NECESSARILY UH SEE AN OVERWHELMING PUBLIC GOOD FOR CHANGING THE POLICIES FOR THE ADVANTAGES OF ONE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER IN THIS INSTANCE. WHEN CURRENT POLICIES ENABLE HOMEOWNER TO HAVE MATTERS HE SAYS HE WISHES TO HAVE AND CONTAINER HAVE. THIS CIRCUMSTANCES, WE CONTAINER GIVE FOR CHALLENGERS WHAT THEY NEED WHILE THE CANDIDATE STILL GETS WHAT HE DESIRES. EVERYBODY LEAVES WITH A FULL BAG. WHY CHANGE THE ZONING? I WEAR'' T SEE A GOOD STRONG FACTOR FOR IT AND I'' VE ALSO FOUND OTHER FACTORS THAT CONCERN ME, ESPECIALLY FOR THE OLD WEST DURHAM AREA, WHCH IS AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN FACING ENORMOUS ADVANCEMENT PRESSURES.I WISH TO SEE
THINGS SETTLED THERE MOMENTARILY AND SEE HOW IT FUNCTIONS. WE DON ' T EVEN KNOW HOW TO'MPO FUNCTIONS. MISGIVINGS ABOUT A FEW OF THE PURVIEW WE COLLECTION AT MPO. CONCERNED IF WE ADOPT CHOICES PROPOSALS WE ' LL SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT ALLOW THAT WE WOULD JUST HAVE A MESS, ESPECIALLY IN OLD WEST DURHAM. I ASSUME WE REQUIREMENT TO TAKE THIS RIGHT INTO DECIBEL BITES AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE REQUIREMENT DO AS A MATTERER OF SOUND PUBLIC LAW SO THEREFORE I ' M VERSUS AND I MOTIVATE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE AGAINST. > > COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR REMARKS? > > RESPONSES FROM SOMEBODY APART FROM MR. MILLER BUT IF THERE ARE NONE I THINK I DIDN ' T GET WHAT I WAS HOPING TO GET BUT I HAVE ADEQUATE INFO TO DECIDE. > > IF IT ' S HELPFUL, I UH HEAR THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENCE >>. I ' M INCLINED TO ELECT THIS. WHAT I ' VE HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER AL-TURK AND COMMISSIONER BRINE RESINATE WITH ME AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS CHALLENGED. WHILE I LIKE THE ARGUMENT OF IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO OBTAIN SETTLED AND REGARD COMMISSIONER MILLER ' S POINT OF VIEW, I LIKEWISE DO HAVE'CONCERNS ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES TO OBTAIN EACH TRAIN RELOCATING THIS PROCEDURES THEREFORE I ALSO DON ' T WANT United States TO DECREASE A PROPOSAL THAT I THINK HAS MERIT.SO I ' M INCLINED TO ELECT FOR TONIGHT ' S PROPOSAL DESPITE THE FACT THAT'I DO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. COMMISSIONER BRINE. > > IF YOU ' RE READY, I ' LL MAKE An ACTIVITY. > > I BELIEVE WE ' >> RE REDY, THANKS. >> > > I RELOCATE WE'SEND CASE Z 1800026 ONWARD> TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A BENEFICIAL SUGGESTION. > > SECONDLY. > > RELOCATED BY COMMISSIONER >> BRINE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER. WE ' LL HAVE ARE ROLL PHONE CALL BALLOT, PLEASE. [ROLL TELEPHONE CALL VOTE] > > ALTHOUGH YOU PUT ON ' T BALLOT >> AND YOUR EXISTING, YOR'VOTE WOULD STILL COUNT IN AFFIRMATIVE. WE HAD THAT EARLIER IN ANOTHER PERSON SITUATION. > > SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER BAKER ' S INTENT IS HAVING SHOWED UP AFTER THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURE SELECTING TO ABSTAIN SINCE HE WASN ' T BELOW FOR THE WHOLE CONVERSATION IS SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONERS DO, DO OVER CONNECTION. > > NOT STAYED AWAY, HIS VOTE STILL COUNTS AS A YES. > > WHERE ARE WE ON THE ROLL
>> CALL VOTE? [> ROLL CALL BALLOT PROCEEDED] > > MOTION PASSES 9-4. > > MOVEMENT PASSES 9-4. >> THANKS ALL FOR YOUR >> TIME AND POINTER, THIS WILL CERTAINLY THEN RELOCATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE AS COMMISSIONERS CREATE OUR COMMENTS DOWN AND THOSE GO TO THE COULD BE SILL ALSO BUT WE CERTAINLY UH ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEE TO IT THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO PERTAIN TO THE COMMON COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THE FINAL VOTE WILL CERTAINLY HAPPEN AND THERE ' LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING DURING THAT TIME ALSO. THANKS ALL. WE ' RE'GOING TO RELOCATE TO OUR FINAL ZONING MAP MODIFICATION ITEM THIS EVENING: 7. III. Z1800020 PANTHER CREEK -CHANGE TO MESSAGE DEDICATIONS ONLY. AS WE OBTAIN THE STAFF RECORD, I DO WANT TO REMIND COMMISSIONERS TO SEE TO IT YOU TALK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE. WE ' VE BEEN INFORMED IT ' S OFTEN TOUGH FOR INDIVIDUALS TO HEAR US DURING OUR DELIBERATIONS. IF YOU ' RE MIKE ISN ' T WORKING, THEN WE WISH YOU GOOD LUCK. > > I WILL CERTAINLY NOW EXIST SITUATION Z 1800020, PANTHER CREEK
>>, REVISIONS TO MESSAGE COMMITMENTS. APPLICANT IS DONALD SEVER. THIS 161.162 ACRE SITE LIES AT 2708 BURTON ROADWAY. THIS SITE IS IN CITY ' S JURISDICTION. FORMERLY ACCEPTED ZONING MAP ADJUSTMENT AND GROWTH INTEND ON AUGUST 7, 2002. REQUEST IS TO MODIFY TEXT COMMITMENTS RELATED TO THIS STRATEGY. WEBSITE RECEIVED RED. EARLIER CASES OF PANTHER CREEK HAVE BEEN BUILT TO NORTHWEST. SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLANNED ADVANCEMENT RESIDENTIAL WITH An ADVANCEMENT STRATEGY, PD ARE R 1.690, AND LOCATED IN SUBURBAN TIER. DEVELOPMENT PLAN OPTIMUM OF 272 DWELLING DEVICES WHICH WAS FOR THE OLD PANTHER CREEK WHICH INCLUDES THE NORTH AS WELL.APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SMALL REVISIONS TO TEXT COMMITMENTS. TRANSITIONAL USE LOCATION.
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> > THANK YOU. > > THANK YOU. > > CORRECT. > > CORRECT. > > MOTION PASSES 9-4.THIS IS NO LONGER AN REGULATION REQUIREMENT FOR PDRs. ADDITIONALLY, THE APP A CANT RECOMMENDS TO GET RID OF NUMBER 10 AND 11 AND CUSTOMIZE KEEP IN MIND 12. CONNECTIONS TO BRAGG ROADWAY AND MANNIX ROAD ARE OPTIONAL TO MEET EXTERNAL ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS. TEXT DEDICATION HAS BEEN ADDED RESTRICTING VARIETY OF UNITS TO # 0 SYSTEMS EAST OF ARDSLEY DRIVE. NO CHANGES ARING WITH SUGGESTED TO THE REST OF THE ACCEPTED GROWTH STRATEGY. PER THE UDO, ANY UH REVISIONS TO [INDISTINCT] ELEMENTS ARE THOUGHT ABOUT—-.
PROPOSED CHANGES AS NOTED HAVE BEEN ASSESSED BY TEAM AND DETERMINE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE UDO NEEDS. TEAM ESTABLISHES THAT THESE REQUESTS ARE CONSTANT WITH DETAILED STRATEGY AND OTHER POLICIES AND ORDINANCES. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR CONCERNS. >> > > THANKS P. WE'' LL OPEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED P UP IN SUPPORT. FOUR PEOPLE JOINED AGAINST, AND WE WILL ALLOW 10 MINUTES PER EACH SIDE. WE'' LL START WITH THOSE IN SUPPORT. THAT'' S DON SEVER. > > DON CUT WITH TOP STYLE AND WISH EVERYONE A PLEASED NEW YEAR. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS WE WANTED TO ADDRESS. ONE IS THE ROADWAY CONNECTIONS. WITH THE INITIAL TEXT COMMITMENT REVEALING CONNECTION TO BRAGG ROADWAY AND WHEN W'' RE LOOKING AT THE PROJECT IN EVEN MORE EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS THERE'' S CONSIDERABLE ENVIRONMENTAL FUNCTION STREAM BUFFER WITHIN THIS LOCATION AND A WE WISH TO [INDISTINCT] THAT REQUIREMENT TO CONNECT BRAGG ROAD BECAUSE OF THAT.
>> > > SPEAK CLOSER INTO THE MICROPHONE? HAVING TOUGH TIME HEARING YOU. >> > > BETTER? I WAS DISCUSSING WITH BRAGG ROADWAY THERE'' S SUBSTANTIAL ECOLOGICAL FEATURE BEING A STREAM AND WE WISH TO GET RID OF THE DMOIMENT MAKE THIS PARTICULAR LINK THE FOR ECOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS. ON THE EAST SIDE OF MANNIX ROADWAY, WE ALSO PREFER NOT TO LIMITATION OURSELVES TO CONNECTING TO MANNIX ROAD BUT AS STAFF HAD PUT IN THEIR SPECIFIC SUGGESTION AND WE WOULD LIKE DO A DEDICATION THAT FOR A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS TO 90 EAST OF ARDSLEY ROAD THAT WE'' LL MAKE A SECOND NEXT BUT WE WISHED TO GIVE US ADAPTABILITY OF PRODUCTION CONNECTION ROAD WE WOULD JUST BE ABLE TO OFFER WITH THE AJAY E SENT HOME PROPRIETORS. IF WE MAKE LINK TO MANNIX ROADWAY, THERE'' S NO RIGHT-OF-WAY COMMITTED TO CONNECTING THIS BUILDING TO NEW RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, SO WE'' RE LOOKING AT SIMPLY THE POSSIBILITY OF MOVING IT TO DIFFERENT PLACE IF WE CAN FIND AN ADEQUATE SOLUTION.THE SECOND CONCERN THAT WE ' RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE 50-FOOT BUFFERS THAT ARE ALONG THE BORDER. THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL HAS LOVELY– WELL, IT ' S THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED TO A 24 %OPTIMUM IMPERVIOUS AREA, AND OUR PERIMETER PREPARES ARE SHOWING THAT AS WE FULLY CREATE OUR LOTS IN THE HIGHWAY THAT THE OPTIMUM IMPERVIOUS COUNTING FOR IS ROUGHLY 60%. THERE ' S SUBSTANTIAL WETLANDS, CONSIDERABLE A GREAT DEAL OF FOR 100 YEAR FLOOD AIRCRAFT THAT WE NEED TO STAY CLEAR OF. WITH NEW ENTRYWAY COMING OFF OF BURTON ROADWAY, 50-FOOT TRANSITION BUFFER IS LIMITED ON WHERE WE CAN PUT THE LOTS AND A ROAD AND STAY OUT OF ECOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS, THE 100 FOOT STREAM BARRIER ALONG WITH 100 YER FLOODING PLANE.WE ' RE LESSENING 50 FOOT BARRIER TO WHAT ' S REQUIRED BY UDO, IT
' LL OFFER US EVEN MORE ADAPTABILITY TO CORRECTLY LOCATE THOSE WHOLE LOTS ALONG FRONTAGE. ALSO WORRY THAT AS WE THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS DOWN STREAM OF THE NEARBY PARCELS BEING ARDSLEY IN AND ALONG MANNIX ORIGINAL DEDICATION SPEAKING ABOUT A 50-FOOT UNINTERRUPTED BUFFER AND WE ' D LIKE TO ELIMINATE THAT DEMAND SO WE UNDERSTAND WE ' RE GOING TO HAVE TO OFFER WITH OFF-SITE WATER DRAINAGE PROBLEMS AND ALLOWING US TO COME UP WITH ADAPTABILITY OF TRESPASSING IN THAT 50-FOOT LOCATION WILL ENABLE US TO PROPERLY ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS FOR THE FUTURE HOME OWNERS.THESE WERE OUR MAJOR CONCERNS WHICH RESOLVES WHATEVER I HAVE AT THIS SPECIFIC TIME. > > THANK YOU SIGNIFICANTLY. AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUAL WHO IS ARE SUBSCRIBED TO SPEAK AGAINST, AN W ' LL PROVIDE YOU An OVERALL OF TEN MINUTES IN BETWEEN THE >> FOUR OF YOU. PAUL GLEN, EDWARD FREEMAN, JOHN CHURCH, AND CHRISTY FARL. GIVE US NAME AND ADDRESS AND COLLECTIVELY YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES. > >. > > EXCELLENT AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, 2612 BURTON ROADWAY. LIKE TO TALK TO YOU CONCERNING THE SCHOOL TO BEGIN WITH. PHONE CALL AND SPOKEN TO ALL >>OF >> THEM, THERE WAS NOT ONE AVAILABLE SPACE MUCH CHILD. CHARTER INSTITUTION ON RED MILL AND ONE ON LAKE FOREST FREEWAY WAS ALSO LITTLE FARTHER THAN THAT SOME SCHOOL. NOT ONE AREA THERE. NEXT BIG TROUBLE IS GOING TO BE TRAFFIC. I LIVE 5 TENTHS OF A MILE FROM EQUIPMENT STREET. TODAY WHEN I LEFT MY HOUSE RUNNING 40 MILES PER HOUR, I MET 25 AUTOS FROM THERE TO EQUIPMENT. IF YOU DEVELOP RESIDENCES PER YOUR HOUSE BESIDE ME HAS FOUR CARS AND TRUCKS. THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE KIDS, YOU GOING TOHAVE CARS TOO P.LET EVERYBODY KNOW I DID CALL STATE AND THE STATE MALED ME A LETTER 12/3/18 AND THIS IS NOT THE 18 RESEARCH STUDY THIS IS THE 17 STUDY.
THEY DON ' T DO THEM ANNUALLY. THE 17 RESEARCH THEY SAID ON CHEEK ROADWAY WAS 4 THOUSAND 4 HUNDRED AUTOMOBILES SWITCHED OFF OF CHEEK ON'EQUIPMENT ROAD. THAT ' S 5 THOUSAND AUTOMOBILES. I ' M NOT A LOVELY MATHEMATICIAN BUT THAT ' S 9 THOUSAND 4 HUNDRED AUTOMOBILES A DAY IN 17, NOT 18. THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE RESEARCH OF CHILDREN, INSTITUTIONS, AND WEB TRAFFIC. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. > > THANK YOU P. > > FOR THE RECORD SIR, YOU MAY UH HAVE GIVEN United States YOUR NAME AND I MISSED IT.YOU ' RE MR. ECO-FRIENDLY;> IS THAT CORRECT? MR. GLEN, THANK YOU. WE HAVE EDWARD FREEMAN NEXT.
> > E WARD FREEMAN. PRACTICALLY AGREE WITH MR. GLEN. I RESIDED IN THIS AREA FOR 45 YEARS AND >> I ' VE SEEN SOME CHANGES IN THE TRAFFIC. NOT TO MENTION WHAT ITS GOING TO DO TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.'I COMPLETELY OPPOSE ANY ZONE ADJUSTMENT IN THIS LOCATION.– FOR THAT FACTOR AND THE WEB TRAFFIC. THANKS. > > THANK YOU. JOHN CHURCH. > > THANK YOU, GOOD NIGHT NOW I UH HUNCH IT IS >> P. JOHN CHURCH, >> 2704 BURTON ROADWAY, BESIDE THE BUILDING. I ' D LIKE TO DISCUSS 50 FOOT'BARRIER THAT THEY WISH TO GET RID OF, I ' D LIKE TO SEE THT STAY IN PLACE.REASON IT ' S 50 FOOT UNDISTURBED BARRIER AND ALLOW ME TO PROVIDE YOU BACKGROUND ON THIS. WE ' VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROPERTY AND WE HAVE NO WORRY WITH'INDIVIDUALS BUILDING YOUR HOUSES. THEY GO IN AND CONSTRUCT ALL THE HOUSES THEY NEED BUT WE WEPT OVER THIS BELOW IN 2002; WE ' VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS BUILDING CONSIDERING THAT 1999. NOW IT ' S COME BACK AGAIN TO UH YOU GUYS TO SEE IF YOU ' LL RELOCATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE A FEW OF THE ADVANTAGES AWAY, AND WITH THE QUANTITY OF WEBSITE TRAFFIC THEY ' RE GOING TO HAVE IN HERE WITH THESE 272 HOUSES', THE IF IT STAYS AT 272, I BELIEVE UH ITS GOING TO BE MORE THAN 272. I TALKED WITH THE DESIGNER TONIGHT, FIRST TIME I OBTAINED An OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH HIM, AND HE ' S STELING ME HE ' S GOING TO TRY TO CONSTRUCT POSSIBLY 5 RESIDENCES TO AN ACRE, 8 THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT WHOLE LOTS, AND HE DOES HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF WETLANDS IN THERE. SOMEWHERE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE ' D LIKE TO SEE SOME MEANS FOR THE AUTOMOBILES TO COME OUT OF THAT PROPERTY BESIDES PERTAINING TO BURTON ROAD AND ARDSLEY DRIVE. WE'' D LIE TO SEE SOME GO BACK APPROXIMATELY BRAGG ROADWAY ARE AND MANNIX ROADWAY NOW THESE GUYS SAY THEY CANISTER'' T DO THAT DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ' S A CREEK P UP THERE.I DON ' T KNOW WHAT ' S TRANSFORMED FROM 2002 UNTIL TODAY, BUT SOMETHING HAS CHANGED THAT THEY CAN ' T USE THOSE 2'ROADS ANY LONGER TO GO TO REDWOOD ROAD. REDWOOD ROAD HAS A DIRECT ACCESSIBILITY TO I 85 SO IT'' S OUTLINED TO ACCESSIBILITY IN'AND OUT, AND THAT'' S THE TWO THINGS, I GUESS,'THAT ' S PROBLEMS THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT ' S GOING TO BE COMING-OUT. I ' D LIKE TO REMIND YOU, TOO, ON WHEN IT ' S REL STORMY WEATHER THAT BURTON ROADWAY FLOODS AT PANTHER CREEK.BURTON ROAD UP TO MY WAIST IN ONE OF THE TORNADOS, BUT IT DOES FLOODING. I PUT ON'' T KNOW IF THE DEVELOPER REQUIRES TO PLACE IN LARGER PIPING ON BURTON ROADWAY; DOES HE REQUIRED TO PLACE IN A BRIDGE AT BURRTON ROAD, HE'' S GOING TO NEED TO PUT IN A TURN LANE FOR CERTAIN RIGHT THERE ALONGSIDE MY PROPERTY, PARTICIPATING OF MY UH RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. I HAVE NOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT SAID, BUT, AS LONG AS THEY DON'' T TAKE EXCESSIVE OF IT. HE ' S DEFINITELY OBTAINED SOME THINGS TO ACCOMPLISH UH BUT I ' D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THAT WATER AND HE TALKED THE TRUTH, THERE ' S A GREAT DEAL OF WETLANDS BACK THEREIN AND VERY RECOGNIZED FEW PLACES THEY CANISTER BUILD, BUT THEY STILL DEMAND ACCESS TO REDWOOD ROADWAY AND DON ' T NEED TO CONSTRUCT 90 HOUSES PRIOR TO THEY OBTAIN ACCESS TO A 2ND ELECTRICAL OUTLET. THEY INTEND TO BUILD 90 RESIDENCES AND AFTERWARDS GET A 2ND GAIN ACCESS TO OUT. I THINK UH THEY REQUIRED TO GET THAT NO GREATER THAN 50
OR 60, BUT I ' D LIKE YOU GUYS TO TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.HE WANTS TO CONSTRUCT 90 HOUSES AND AFTERWARDS TRY TO FIND AN OUTLET. I ' D LIKE FOR THE OUT LET TO BE EXPLAINED BEFORE BEGINNING DOING ANYTHING AND AFTER 50 OR 60 HOMES, HAVE THE ROADWAY READY FOR SECONDLY GAIN ACCESS TO OUT TO REDWOOD ROADWAY. HE'' S INFORMED ME HE REQUIRES THIS 50 FOOT BARRIER FOR WATER DRAINAGE. I DON'' T KNOW HOW WATER CONTAINER DRAINPIPE BETTER ON CLEARED LAND THAN IT CONTAINER ON POPULATED LAND WHERE IT'' S GOT TREES AND BUSHES ON ME. RESEMBLE TO ME IT WOULD DRAIN BETTER IF IT HAD SOMETHING TO STOP THE FLOW SUCH AS TREES AND BUSHES, BUT YOU GUYS WILL NEED TO TELL ME, AND I PRESUME THAT'' S ABOUT ALL I NEED TO ASK YOU
TONIGHT.THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> > > THANKS >>. > > THANK YOU. MR. MILLERER APPEARED AND INVESTIGATED THIS ASSEMBLE OF BUILDING AND I THANK HIM FOR COMING OUT AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR HEARING US OUT TONIGHT. >> > > FINALLY WE HAVE CHRISTY FAL. >> > > GOOD NIGHT, CHRISTY FARL, LIVE AT 2519 AUBREY DRIVE AND WE'' RE COMPLETELY AGAINST THIS. OUR ROADWAY IS ALREADY LIKE A DRAG STRIP AND OPENING UP ARDSLEY DRIVE FOR GAIN ACCESS TO TO THESE HOMES IS GOING TO ADVERTISE A LOT MORE WEB TRAFFIC. WHEN YOU GOT INDIVIDUALS WHEN THEY HAD REDWOOD ROAD AS COMPONENT OF THE BRIDGE EVERYBODY'' S CUTTING THROUGH ARDSLEY. WE'' VE GOT A DAUGHTER AND SEVERAL FAMILY MEMBERS BELOW WITH CHILDREN, YO CAN'' T EVEN LET THEM OUT TO PLAY AND RIDE BIKES OR STROLL FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY BECAUSE YOU OBTAINED INDIVIDUALS RUNNING 50 MILES PER HOUR DOWN THE STREET. WE'' RE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE THERE'' S EVEN MORE WEBSITE TRAFFIC, EVEN MORE HOMES, EVEN MORE INDIVIDUALS, MORE CARS, AND AS FAR AS SLOWING DOWN WEBSITE TRAFFIC DOWN WE'' VE HAD CONSTABLE AVAILABLE TRACKING AND WE JUST TALKED TO AUTHORITIES ADMINISTRATIONS AND STATE TROOPER ON OUR ROADWAY AND NOBODY'' S DONE ANYTHING CONCERNING IT.INSTEAD OF OPENING IT UP ALLOWING THESE HOUSES IN AND ALL THESE WEB TRAFFIC COMING WITH ARDSLEY, BURTON AND BEING THE ONLY ACCESS IT ' S GOING TO BE WEBSITE TRAFFIC AND SECURITY PROBLEMS AND ELDERLY UH AREA BACKING IN AND OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY. THAT ' S REGARDING ALL I NEED TO SAY. > > FANTASTIC. THANKS. > > [> LOW AUDIO]>. > > YES, YOU HAVE A MINUTE-AND-A-HALF. > > MANY THANKS SIGNIFICANTLY. >> THEY DID A STUDY IN 2015, AND TODAY YEARLY DROPS LAKE IS CLOSED. I PUT ON ' T KNOW IF ANYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT OR NOT, AND I WENT THERE AND SKIED FOR TWENTY YEARS, GOT TOO OLD, AND NOW, MABE I OBTAIN MY YOUNG PEOPLE BACK, LONG TALE SHORT THEY BLAME IT ON THE DUCKS. MY UH YEARS OF WINTER SPORTS THERE FOR TWENTY YEARS, IT WON ' T, BUT IF THEY DO A STUDY UH IN 2015, AND WE OBTAINED A GREAT DEAL OF GRAY SEEK PANTHER CREEK.I DON ' T KNOW WHAT THIS IS, CLIFORM GERMS LEVELS. I ' M SURE IT ' S NOT DUCKS UP FIFTY PERCENT THE CREEK THAT FEEDS INTO THAT LAKE BUT THEY ' RE CLOSING THE SWIM LOCATION EACH YEAR AND THEY SHOW IT ON TELEVISION P IF Y ' ALL NOTICED THAT'. THANK YOU ONCE MORE. GOOD EVENING. > > THANK YOU, SIR. AT THIS MOMENT WE ' RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I LOOK >> TO COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY QUESTIONS,'COMMENTS, CONVERSATION. BEGIN ON MY LEFT THIS TIME. > > DO YOU INTENDED TO GIVE APPLICANT TIME TO– BECAUSE HE JUST TOOK– > > I WASN ' T CERTAIN BECAUSE >> WE DID THAT FOR THE LAST SITUATION. YOU CLAIMED HE WAS EXCELLENT TO THANKS. THAT ' S CONSTANTLY> GOOD. COMMISSIONER HORNBUCKLE. > > I SIMPLY FOR THE PROGRAMMER, SIR, I ' M RETIRED SHERIFF ' S REPLACEMENT AND I PENETRATED THAT AREA FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND AS THAT GENTLEMAN SPECIFIED I ' VE HAD TO WADE THROUGH THIN DOWN THEREIN PUTTING OUP CLOSURE INDICATORS WHEN IT FLOODS.THAT ' S A FLOOD PLANE DOWN THEREIN. I DON ' T SEE ANY METHOD FEASIBLE IN WANTING TO REARE ACTION THE BARRIER THERE, THE ALL-NATURAL OBSTACLE
THERE TO MAKE AN ENTRYWAY IN THERE. IF IF I'WAS GOING TO CREATE THAT HOME, I CERTAINLY BELIEVES I WOULD FIND A WAY TO PERFORM IT OFF OF MANNIX ROADWAY. IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE USEFUL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE ARDZ ALY DRIVE LOCATION, THAT WHOLE SECTION AS THE GENT STATED IT ' S DIRECT REDWOOD ROAD, GOES STRAIGHT TO I 85. IT WOULD TAKE A WHOLE LOT OFF OF F THAT COMMUNITY AND BURTON ROAD IS, DEER ROAD, CHEEK ROADWAY IS EXTREMELY CONGESTED DOWN IN THERE NOW.I UH SIMPLY DO NOT SEE PLACING AN ENTRYWAY ANYWHERE NEAR THAT FLOODING AIRPLANE DOWN THEREIN. THAT ' S A CALAMITY, TO ME, CATASTROPHE WAITING TO
HAPPEN. > > AMEN. [APPLAUSE] > > WE DO ASK THAT WE HAVE POLICIES OF ETIQUETTE AT'THE PUBLIC HEARINGS SO YOU CAN GIVE A THUMBS UP IF YOUR APPRECIATE THE REMARK. THANKS COMMISSIONER >> HORN BUCKLING. COMMISSIONER MILLER. > > SEVERAL QUESTIONS FOR THE TEAM TO MKE SURE I UH UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE A GROWTH APLAN EMBRACED 200 # AND IT REVEALS WHOLE LOTS BUT I ' M PRESUMING THE GREAT DEALS REVEALED ON> THIS GROWTH PLAN ARE NOT DEDICATED DUE TO THE FACT THAT OF THE AGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH THE GUIDELINES WERE CONSEQUENTLY CHANGED TO REQUIRE GRAPHIC'MENATIONS TO BE COMMITMENTS. > > YOU ' RE CORRECT. > > SO HE COULD SHIFT THE GREAT DEALS AROUND BUT WHAT DOESN ' T CHANGE IS THE TOTAL HOME SYSTEMS PERRER ACRE 1.69 AND THE REAL ESTATE TYPE IS A COMMITMENT >>. > >'CORRECT. >> > > ALL RIGHT. WISH TO ENSURE I UH UNDERSTAND. ASSIST ME UNDERSTAND CONNECTIVELY POLICIES HERE AS APPLIED IN UDO OPERATING IN REVERSE TO A 2002 DEVELOPMENT. >> TODAY
>> UH, THIS RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SHOWS CONNECTIONS WITH– SEE IF I GET THM ALL– BURTON, BRAGG ROADWAY, ARDSLEY, AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY ADJOINING RIGHTS-OF-WAY. DO CONNECTION REGULATIONS IN UDO NEED THEM TO CONNECT TO OTHER LOCATION IN WHICH IS PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY RUN UP TO AND JOIN THEIR PROPERTY? RIGHT CURRENTLY I ' M SIMPLY LOOKING AT ADVANCEMENT STRATEGY. I ' VE GOT A LITTLE VERSION OF IT SO I ' M UNSURE I ' M SEEING IT EXACTLY AS I SHOULD. FUNCTIONING FROM EAST TO EAST. BURTON, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY SIGNS UP WITH AT BURTON, SIGNS UP WITH AT BRAGG ROAD. PAVEMENT BLOCKS ON MAYBE I'WEAR ' T KNOW TWO HUNDRED FEET SHORT OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE BUT RIGHT-OF-WAY RUNS RIGHT TO THE HOME. > > SO FOR CONNECTIVITY TO ADJACENT STUBBOUTS– > > EXACTLY. > > RIGHT, SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL FUNCTIONS TIN BE FIGURED OUT AT WEBSITE PLAN THAT A CONNECTION IS >> NOT REQUIRED DUE TO EXISTING PROBLEMS. CONNECTIONS TO ARDSLEY ARE
>> SHOWN ON DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AND WOULD BE REQUIRED, I BELIEVE THERE ' S A STUBBOUT THERE. > > THERE ' S A SUBBOUT AT ARDSLEY WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRED? > > YES. > > THEN THERE ' S A STUB AT BRAGG ROAD,'AND THAT ' S REQUIRED UNLESS THEY OBTAIN LET OFF HOOK AT WEBSITE PLAN DUE TO ECOLOGICAL? >> > > CORRECT>. THAT ' S WHERE THIS IS COMING IN WITH ENVIRONMENTAL FUNCTION. > > THEN WE COME TO MANNIX ROAD AND THERE ' S NO STUBBOUT. MANNIX ROADWAY IS NEAR THE HOME UNLESS LOT B OR A FEW OTHER WHOLE LOT THAT LINKS WITH THE STUB THERE CREATING >>, THEY DON ' T NEED TO CONNECT THERE'. > > THAT ' S CORRECT. > > OTHER THAN FOR THE ADVANCEMENT PLAN PONDERS A LINK IN THERE SOMEWHERE AS STATED BY THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT ARE BUILT.> ALLEVIATION FROM THOSE NEEDS THAT THEY ' RE NOW LOOKING FOR. > > GROWTH STRATEGY PROGRAM KOS NEXTS BEYOND WHAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED. > > RIGHT. THEN OVER BELOW THERE ' S A CONNECTION THAT COMES OUT AND ADJOINS A PIECE >> OF BUILDING TO WHICH THERE IS NO RIGHT-OF-WAY OVER ON THE EASTERN SIDE. >> CURRENTLY UNDER CURRENT POLICIES THEY HAVE GUARANTEED, DEPENDING UPON THE NUMBER OF UNITS BUILT IN CERTAIN AREAS TO CONNECT TO– YOU TELL ME. WHAT IS CURRENTLY UH REQUIREMENTS? > > YOU AREN ' T CURRENT ADVANCEMENT STRATEGY OR UNDER PROPOSED? > > CURRENT ADVANCEMENT PLAN. > > THEY ' RE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO BASED OFF OF TEXT COMMITMENTS THAT ARE SHOWN THAT >> ' S WHAT REQUIRED THE MANIX [LOW AUDIO] BRAGG ROADWAY ADVERTISEMENT BURTON IS SHOWN ON ADVANCEMENT PLAN'AND ARDSLEY AS WELL WITH THAT SAID STUB LINK. > > SO THEN THEY ' RE GOING TO HAVE A CONNECTION AT BURRTON AND AFTER THAT PARTICULAR NUMBER OF UNITS AN THEN THEY KR SO CONNECT TO BRAGG ROADWAY. > > SO THE RECOMMENDED TEXT COMMITMENTS– > > NO, THE EXISTING NEEDS IS
>> IS ALL I ' M TRYING. > > OH YES, THE UNITS– > > ' UZ IT DOESN ' T NAME NAMES IT SPEAKS ABOUT LINKS OFF IN AN AREA AND I ' >> M TRYING TO MAKE THE– LOOKING TO PUT NAMES TO >> LINKS. > > ARE YOU REPRESENTATIVE FERING TO TEXT DEDICATION PROPOSED >> TO BE DELETED NUMBER TEN >> ', OPTIMUM OF 50– > > NOT REFERRING TO MINI PROPOSED. > > CORRECT, IT ' S INTENDED TO BE REMOVED, MESSAGE COMMITMENT NUMBER TEN, MAXIMUM OF 50 STRUCTURE PERMITS WILL CERTAINLY >> BE ISSUES IN AREA C AND B TILL A BRAGG ROAD OR MANNIX ROAD CONNECTION IS OPENED UP. > > RIGHT >>. AND AFTER THAT THERE ' S A CERTAIN VARIETY OF MORE– EVENTUALLY IF THEY BUILD IT ACCORDING TO WHAT THE CURRENT ASSURANCE IS, HOW MANY CONNECTIONS OFF THE BUILDING WILL THEY EVENTUALLY HAVE AT BUILD-OUT? 3? BURTON MANNIX ROADWAY AND BRAGG ROADWAY. >> > > ARDSLEY. > > SO IS IT FOUR OR– IF THEY HAVE BURTON AND ARDSLEY, DO THEY HAVE ARE TO HAVE BRAGG ROAD AND GUY MIX ROADWAY OR BRAG G OR MANNIX. > > I ' M ANALYSIS IT AS BOTH. > > ALL. THANK YOU. WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IS JUST 2 DISADVANTAGE NEXTS? > > >> CORRECT. >> > > TWO CONNECTIONS WOULD BE BURTON AND ARDSLEY. > > YES. 2 LINKS AS MUCH AS 90 UNITS. AFTER 90 UNITS THEY WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL >> LINK. > > WHICH WOULD BE
>> BRAGG ROADWAY OR MANNIX ROAD? > > POSSIBLY. > > ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THOSE ARE MY UH QUESTIONS. >> MAKE SURE I ' VE COVERED THEM ALL. >> AMONG MY CONCERNS BELOW IS THAT I DROVE THROUGHOUT THE MACE AROUND. MANNIX ROAD IS MUCH OF A ROAD. IT ' S NO MEANT TO BE A CARRIER OF A >> GREAT DEAL OF TRAFFIC >>. IT ' S MEANT TO OFFER THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE ON IT. BRAGG ROADWAY IS BETTER BUT VERY LITTLE. AT THE VERY LEAST IT ' S A BIGGER WALKWAY. AS I CHECK OUT THE MAP AND EXPERIENCE IT RESEMBLE MANNIX ROAD IS A TINY RIGHT OF WAY. MY BIGGEST PROBLEM ABOUT– AND I THINK IT ' S CRUCIAL FOR US TO KEEP IN MIND; THE DESIGNER HAS THE ZONING HE NEEDS TO BUILD THIS PROJECT. HE'HAS ACTUALLY RIGHTS GOTTEN IN TOUCH WITH IT AND RESPONSIBILITY CONNECTED WITH IT. HE HAS THE RIGHT TO CONNECTION
TO BURTON WE LIKE IT OR OTHERWISE. HE MUT CONNECT TO ARDSLEY UNDER THE CODE AND THERE ' S NO CHANCE OUT OF THAT. I EXPECT UNLESS WE ARGUE IN SOME WAY THE UDO ARRANGEMENT– WHEN IT COME TO ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES RELATING TO PANTHER CREEK MIGHT GET RID OF THAT, I DON ' T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK. MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS ULTIMATELY THE MEANS IN AND OUT OF THIS PROJECT AS IT IS PROPOSED, REQUIRES EVERYONE TO RIDE ALONG THIS LITTLE AREA THAT ' S CONCERNING 6 LOTS WORTH OF THIS ROADWAY OPERATING ALONG PANTHER CREEK.IT ' S NOT NAMED BU WOULD BE AN EXPANSION OF BRAGG ROAD. EVERYONE IS TRAPPED UNTIL WE HAVE THESE EASTERLY LINKS if IT FLOODS DOWN THERE. IF WE CONNECT AT BRAGG ROAD, THOUGH, PEOPLE CAN COME OUT THROUGH BRAGG ROADWAY AND DON ' T NEED TO WAIT
THROUGH THAT LITTLE MANNER IN WHICH RUNS RIGHT ALONGSIDE PANTHER CREEK. WE DON ' T HAVE A GREAT DEAL 06 OPTIONS HERE. WE CAN NOT SHUT OFF A FREEWAY LINK THAT THE DESIGNER KEPT WHEN WE GOT THE HOME REZONED IN 2002, WE CAN ONLY HANDLE THE JOB IN FRONT OF United States. I ' M NOT PLEASED WITH THIS, PERSONALLY. I ASSUME THAT THE MORE CONNECTIONS'THAT THIS ENVIRONMENTALLY-IMPACTED RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY UH HAS TO ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO FIND An ESCAPE OF THIS BUT DOES NOT NEED THEM TO CONNECT TO BURTON OR TO ON THAT PARTICULAR LITTLE SECTION OF ROAD THAT IS THAT ADVANCEMENT THAT WOULD CONNECT'TO ARDSLEY TO BURTON IS DESIRABLE. AND SO UNDER THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WOULD BE THREE OR FOUR CONNECTIONS AT BUILDOUT WHICH WOULD INCLUDE BRAGG ROADWAY AND MANNIX ROADWAY, I ASSUME TAT I MY OPINION IS BETTER THAN DOING AROUND ABOUT IT.I ALSO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE 50 FOOT BUFFER. I WOULD FEELING BETTER ABOUT– I UH MIGHT ADJUST USE THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT ' S NOW DESIGNATE TRANSITIONAL USAGE LOCATION OF THIS 50 FOOT BARRIER IF HE SHOWED US EXACTLY WHICH THEY ' RE GOING TO USE INSTEAD OF THROW THE ENTIRE POINT OUT. MY FACTOR FOR THAT IS DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE DON ' T CALL FOR
IT ANY RONGER IS THAT WHEN THIS IS REZONED IN 2002 WE CREATED EXPECTATION FOR THE NEIGHBORING HOMEOWNER. THAT ' S OVER AND OVER JUST ZONING ORDINANCE DEMANDS. THESE ARE SENSIBLE ASSUMPTIONS AMONG EXISTING NEIGHBORS AND BRAND-NEW NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS. I WEAR ' T WISH TO SIMPLY THROW THOSE OUT.WHERE WE CAN USE THAT LAND TO AND REVEAL IT ON A BRAND-NEW DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY HOW IT'MAKES A FEW OTHER ISSUE CONNECTED TO DESIGNER OF THIS RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BETTER, AFTER THAT LET ' S TALK ABOUT THAT ESPECIALLY, BUT I ' M AN TO THROE E THROE OUT THE ENTIRE THING. I ' M GOING TO BE BALLOT NO. I THINK THERE MUST BE AS MANY CONNECTIONS IN AND OUT OF THIS PROTY AS NECESSARY TO REIEVE THE WORRY IF THE CONCEPT CONNECTIONS ARE ARDSLEY AND BURTON AND THEY FLOW TO A ROAD THAT I THINK WILL CERTAINLY SWAMP. I THINK THAT ' S THE ONLY MEANS TO DO IT.I BELIEVE THERE MUST BE CONNECTION'AT BURTON.
IF WE MAKE CONNECTION TO MANNIX ROADWAY, THERE'' S NO RIGHT OF WAY DEVOTED TO CONNECTING THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO NEW BUILDING, SO WE'' RE LOOKING AT SIMPLY THE OPPORTUNITY OF MOVING IT TO VARIOUS AREA IF WE CANISTER FIND AN ADEQUATE SOLUTION.THE SECONDLY ISSUE THAT WE ' RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE 50-FOOT BARRIERS THAT ARE ALONG THE PERIMETER. HE ' S DEFINITELY GOT SOME STUFF TO DO UH BUT I ' D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THAT WATER AND HE TALKED THE REALITY, THERE ' S A WHOLE LOT OF WETLANDS BACK IN THERE AND EXTREMELY KNEW FEW PLACES THEY CAN BUILD, BUT THEY STILL REQUIREMENT GAIN ACCESS TO TO REDWOOD ROAD AND DON ' T NEED TO DEVELOP 90 RESIDENCES BEFORE THEY OBTAIN ACCESS TO A 2ND ELECTRICAL OUTLET. > > I JUST FOR THE PROGRAMMER, SIR, I ' M RETIRED SHERIFF ' S REPLACEMENT AND I PROBED THAT AREA FOR LOTS YEARS AND AS THAT GENTLEMAN MENTIONED I ' VE HAD TO WADE THROUGH WATER DOWN IN THERE PLACING OUP CLOSURE INDICATIONS WHEN IT FLOODS.THAT ' S A FLOOD PLANE DOWN IN THERE. I ' VE GOT A LITTLE VARIATION OF IT SO I ' M NOT CERTAIN I ' M SEEING IT EXACTLY AS I SHOULD. I WOULD FEEL BETTER ABOUT– I UH MAY ADJUST USAGE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT ' S NOW ASSIGN TRANSITIONAL USAGE LOCATION OF THIS 50 FOOT BARRIER IF HE REVEALED US EXACTLY WHICH THEY ' RE GOING TO USE RATHER THAN THROW THE ENTIRE THING OUT.CODE REQUIRES US TO HAVE A CONNECTION AT ARDSLEY AND THIS'' S NO METHOD FROM IT HOWEVER I WISH THEY DIDN'' T HAVE ARE TO PERFORM THAT, UM, BUT ULTIMATELY, I BELIEVE THE PRESENT ARRANGEMENT IS BETTER, I WOULD IF THE DEVELOPER WISHED TO COME and withdraw this UP WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE LITTLE BIT EVEN MORE CERTAIN ABOUT HOE WE MAY USE THE 50 FOOT BUFFER AREA PARTICULARLY DOWN NEAR THIS BURTON OF THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO MAKE CONNECTION UH BETTER, THEN I'' D HAVE AN INTEREST IN THAT AND IF WE COULD MAKE THAT ROADWAY DOWN THERE, IT WOULD BE BETTER ROADWAY FOR EVERYBODY, LESS FLOODING, BETTER FOR THE CREEK.I COULD SEE MAKING USE OF BUFFER AREA FOR THAT AN REORGANIZING LOTS DOWN THERE, BUT WITHOUT THAT UNIQUENESS I BELIEVE THIS ADVANCEMENT STRATEGY IS BETTER THE METHOD IT IS THAN THE WAY IT ' S PROPOSED BELOW'. >> > > THANK YOU. WE HAVE CMMISSIONER JOHNSON NEXT AND AFTER THAT COMMISSIONER BAKER. >> > > THANK YOU. FAST INQUIRY TO THE CANDIDATE. I'' M JUST CURIOUS AS TO THE DEMAND TO MODIFICATION THE NUMBER OF UNITS FOR SECONDLY ACCESSIBILITY POINT THE 90 UNITS. WHAT ' S THE BASIS OF FIGURING OUT 90 UNITS VERSUS >> 100 OR 40? > > UDO DEMAND >>. > > AND AM I CORRECT IN WHAT I HEARD AND ANALYSIS IS THAT BECAUSE CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE YOU WOULD CONSTRUCT 90 UNITS THE SECOND ACCESS FACTOR IS NOT IDENTIFIED THAT SPECIFIC TIME? >> > > THAT ' S CORRECT. WHAT WE'' RE SEEKING IS VERSATILITY OF PUTTING IT AT AN APPROPRIATE AREA SINCE LIKE I POINTED OUT ON MANNIX ROADWAY THERE'' S NO RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT GOES THERE SO TAKE CARE OF ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS TO PURCHASE THEM OUT OR OBTAIN A 50 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY TO MAKE THAT LINK OR IF YOU INTENDED TO STILL DO THE SAME POINT WITH BRAGG ROADWAY WE COULD GET RIGHT OF WAY.
IF THOSE TWO ALTERNATIVES PUT ON'' T WORK WE MAY NEED TO DO A THIRD TWOUN CONNECT OB TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT WOULD TAKE MUCH LONGER DISTANCE THAN ATTACHED TO MANNIX ROADWAY TO GO FURTHER RANGE TO CONNECT TO ANOTHER STREET. WE'' RE LOOKING FOR VERSATILITY OF PHRASE LET US FUNCTION IT OUT IN THE DETAILS. WE WILL MAKE THE DEDICATION FOR THAT SECONDLY LINK. >> > > THANKS. AND FOR PERSONNEL, FOLLOW-UP. I'' M CURIOUS– STUDENT OF BACKGROUND– WHAT HAPPENED FROM 2002 UNTIL JANUARY 3, 2018, THAT BROUGHT ABOUT WHAT– WAS IT THE TIME 2002 REZONING WAS AUTHORIZED WAS ROAD LINKS THAT WERE PROFFERED REQUIRED OR WAS THAT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WAS REQUIRED A THEN IN TIME. >> > > MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE NEED BACK THEN WHAT WAS PROPOSED WAS OVER AND PAST THE REQUIREMENT DURING THAT TIME. >> > > GOTCHA FINAL IDEA IS THAT WHEN AGAIN, COMMISSIONER MILLER AND HIS VERBAL FEEDBACK MADE A GREAT DEAL OF GOOD POINTS.ONE THAT WOULD ISSUE ME IS ELIMINATION OF THE BUFFER IN THAT IT ' S An EXPECTATION FOR BORDERING AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AND HOME. JUST TOSSING THAT AWAY KIND OF GOES AGAINST THE ENTIRE FUNCTION OF PUTTING THAT IN LOCATION IN THE FIRST LOCATION. SECONDLY, WITHOUT KNOWING IN WHICH THAT SECONDLY IN SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE ADDITIONAL GAIN ACCESS TO POINT– CERTAINTY, IT CREATES SOME UNCERTAINTY NOT SIMPLY TO THE PROGRAMMER, I MEAN WHAT IF SOMEBODY DOESN ' T WISH TO OFFER THEIR'HOME OR YOU TIN ' T OBTAIN IT, ARE YOU'STUCK AT THE 90 SYSTEMS AND QUIT YOUR PROJECT VERSUS ON THE FLIP SIDE YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS AND HOME THAT JUST DON ' T KNOW WHERE AN ACCESSIBILITY FACTOR IS GOING TO COME AND PERHAPS THEY DON ' T LIKE IN WHICH YOU WANT TO PUT IT AND THEY I TO TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT; THAT JUST DOESN ' T– IF WE INTEND TO MAKE A CHANGE I WOULD WANT SOMETHING MUCH MORE WORN I RELATES TO TO KNOWING WHAT WAS INCLUDING THE CHANGES.WITH THAT I ' M INCLINED NOT TO SUPPORT THE DEMAND SINCE I UH SIMPLY BELIEVED WHAT ' S IN POSITION NOW WITH EXISTING REZONING BACK IN 2002 WORKS BETTER THAN WHAT ' S BEING ASKED TONIGHT. > > THANKS. COMMISSIONER'BAKER. > > SEVERAL OF CONCERNS ELEVATED ARE MY CONCERNS AS WELL. >> I WISH TO SAY THAT I VALUE SOME OF THE REMARKS YOU MADE CONCERNING LOOKING TO MAKE AN INITIATIVE TO SAVE SOME OPEN ROOM. YOUR PROBLEMS CONCERNING THE SETTING, THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE MOTIVATIONS FOR NOT WANTING TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL LINK. GREAT DEAL OF REASONS TAT WOULD REMAIN IN PUBLIC PASSION BUT I ALSO THINK IT ' S IN PUBLIC RATE OF INTEREST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE STREET NETWORK CONNECTED NETWORK OF RIGHT-OF-WAYS. I DO THINK THAT ' S SOMETHING VERY ESSENTIAL TO BE CONSIDERING IN THIS. SO I DID NEED'TO CLARIFY SOMETHING AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR TEAM. WITH WERE THIS TO BE AUTHORIZED, CONNECTION WOULD BE REDUCED, THE NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS WOULD BE REDUCED UNDER FULL BUILDOUT OF THE COMMUNITY? > > CONNECTION WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO MET REGULATION SPECIFICATIONS OF LINKS >> AND NODES FOR CLASS. > > SPEAKING REGARDING THE 1.2 CONNECTION INDEX? > > , I DON ' T HAVE THAT PHONE NUMBER MEMORIZED.>> > > OK. > > BUT THE EXTERIOR ACCESSIBILITY IS WHAT ' S BEING MODIFIED WITH THAT MESSAGE COMMITMENT OF THE 90 >> SYSTEMS, TO ENSURE THAT ' S ACCESS AND EGRESS AS OPPOSED TO CONNECTIVITY. SOLUTION YOUR QUESTION? > > O.K., BUT, I ' M JUST INTERESTED AS IT IS CURRENTLY BEFORE THE CHANGE NEEDS MORE CONNECTIVITY THAN WHATEVER IS TO BE ACCEPTED. > > TO EXTERNAL GAIN ACCESS TO POINTS, YES. > > YES, OKAY. I TIN ' T ASSISTANCE ANYTHING THAT WOULD LOWER CONNECTION. I>> BELIEVE THAT ' S REALLY CRUCIAL >>. WE DON'' T HAVE SUFFICIENT CONNECTIVITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, SO, AGAIN, I ' D LIKE TO E ECHO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE DESCRIBED BY COMMISSIONERS JOHNSON AND MILLER. > > MANY THANKS. ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER AL-TURK >>. > > MANY THANKS P. JUST An INQUIRY FOR APPLICANT. HAVE YOU MET WITH THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS ABOUT >> THIS/THESE CHANGES? > > BEFORE THE SATISFYING JUST WITH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, WE SPOKE, AND WEEK AGO I HAD ANOTHER PERSON PHONE DISCUSSION WITH ANOTHER PERSON PERSON THAT LIVES AT THE END OF ARDSLEY ROADWAY. > > THANKS. I TRULY VALUE THE REMARKS BY MR. CHURCH, I BELIEVE. > > YES. >> > > I E JUST BELIEVED YOU RAISED A GREAT DEAL OF EXCELLENT FACTORS, AND IT SEEMED >> TO ME LIKE YOU WEREN ' T NECESSARILY UH OPPOSED AND I WEAR ' T THINK– MY ASSUMPTION ARE VARIOUS OTHER NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS ARE NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED BUT THEY WANT TO SEE IT USED UP A MEANS, AGAIN, THAT RESEMBLES SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN INCREASED UP HERE A I BOUT GAIN ACCESS TO.– ABOUT GAIN ACCESS TO. I BELIEVE PAIR DETAILS THAT COULD BE MODIFIED RIGHT HERE THAT WOULD STILL MAKE THIS ADVANCEMENT SEVERAL OF THE CONCERNS OF THE ASE -NEIGHBORS, BUT I BELIEVE AS IT STANDS NOW, I CONCUR WITH MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT THESE ISSUES THAT MAKE ME RELUCTANT TO SUPPORT IT, BUT I BELIEVE IT ' S POSSIBLY JUST A NUMBER OF DETAILS OCCASIONALLY THAT HOPEFULLY COULD RELOCATE THIS FORWARD, SO I ' M INCLINED TO BALLOT AGAINST IT AS WELL. > > MANY THANKS. SEEING NO ADDITIONAL CONCERNS,'COMMENTS, OR CONVERSATION, A MOVEMENT IS >> PROPOSE RIGHT NOW.– APPROPRIATE RIGHT NOW. > > I RELOCATE THAT WE SEND THE CASE Z 1800020 TO THE COMMON COUNCIL WITH A FAVORABLE REFERRAL. > > SECOND. > > MOVED BY COMMISSIONER AL-TURK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. THAT IS THE PROPOSE MOVEMENT TO> MOST LIKELY TO THE >> CITY COUNCIL AND SO WE ' LL HAVE A ROLL PHONE CALL VOTE. [ROLL PHONE CALL VOTE] > > MOVEMENT FALLS SHORT 13-0. > > THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN, ARE TIP. WE ARE AN BOARD OF ADVISERS ONLY SO THIS WILL CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THEY ' LL SEE OUR COMMENTS AND OUR VOTES BUT DO REMAIN INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY ' RE THE LAST DETERMINANT ON THIS ISSUE.THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE A PUBLIC COMMENT DURATION, CONVERSATION, VOTE COMMON COUNCIL. I WISH YOU ALL STAY PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROCEDURE, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
WE ' LL PROCEED TO OUR FINAL 2 THINGS. ONCE MORE JUST A REMINDER, THESE AE INFO ITEMS ONLY TONIGHT SO THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE NO PUBLIC HEARING ON THESE ITEMS TONIGHT. THEY WILL BE BCK IN FRONT OF United States AT A FUTURE MEETING AND THERE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT DURATION BACK THEN. OUR FIRST ITEM: 11. I. Z1800030/T1800009 PATTERSON LOCATION STYLE DISTRICT WE ' LL BEGINNING WITH TEAM REPORT. > > LISA MILLER WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION TO SUPPLY BACKGROUND ON PRETTY SIZABLE TASK THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD TO YOU SCHEDULED FOR YOUR FEBRUARY PREPARATION PAYMENT MEETING FOR PUBLIC HEARING. HAVE THE ABILITY TO GIVE YOU HISTORY, SHARE SOME QUESTIONS AND EITHER ADDRESS THOSE THIS NIGHT OR MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE ADDRESSED IN OUR PUBLIC LISTENING TO PRESENTATION AND MEMORANDUM FOR FEBRUARY CONFERENCE. SEVERAL OF YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE WITH THIS JOB. THIS IS THE PATTERSON LOCATION LAYOUT AREA TASK. JUST VERY BRIEFLY I ' M GOING TO EMPHASIS ON THE BACKGROUND KIND OF LEADING UP TO THIS JOB STARTING, THEN TALK TO PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS FOR THIS JOB, AND THEN SUPPLY AN OVERVIEW OF STYLE AREA CONCEPTS.THIS IS ONE OF SEVERAL DESIGN AREAS AND FUTURE STYLE DISTRICTS. MAKING SHOE YOU ALL HAVE A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE STRUCTURE WE ' RE UTILIZING. BRIEFLY WE ' LL DISCUSS TWO CONCERN LOCATIONS THAT SPECIFY TO PATTERSON LOCATION. DISCUSSION AT THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING WILL CERTAINLY ENTER INTO MORE INFORMATION CONCERNING WHAT THE SUGGESTED CHANGES ARE AND HOW THEY ' RE DIFFERENT FROM OUR INTERESTING DESIGN AREA. JUST PROMPTLY, THE PATTERSON PLACE LAYOUT DISTRICT TASK PURPOSE IS TO DEVELOP A FORM-BASED ZENNING AREA WHICH IS WHAT OUR STYLE DISTRICTS ARE AND THE PATTERSON AREA COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD.AS MOST ARE MINDFUL WE ' VE GOT VARIOUS ADVANCEMENT TIERS IN COME'PABLG PACT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE THOSE THAT ARE PLANNED TO TRANSITION TO MIXED USAGE, WALKABLE, HIGHER THICKNESS AND STRENGTH LOCATIONS SUPPORTED BY TRANSPORTATION. THERE ' S 2 ACTIONS TO PUT THIS PROJECT IN POSITION. THE FIRST IS TEXT CHANGE TO DEVELOP LAW THAT WOULD BE APPLY 11.
II. EXPANDING REAL ESTATE'OPTION THROUGH ZONING MAP CHANGE TO THE ACTUAL COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD RATE. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU EVER MENTIONED COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD RATE SYSTEM IN 2005 COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY, POLICIES IN COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY TALK ABOUT TRANSITIONS ZONING WITHIN THOSE COME FACT AREA TIERS TO DESIGN AREAS THERE ' S An ENTIRE HOST OF POLLTIES. FIRST LAYOUT DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED THE DOWNTOWN GROWTH TIER IN 2010 WHICH WE DEVELOPED THE STRUCTURE WE USAGE FOR OTHER LAYOUT DITRICTS. WE ESTABLISHED ANOTHER KIND OF STYLE AREA WHICH IS THE COMPACT DESIGN DISTRICT IN NINTH STREET AREA THAT WAS EMBRACED IN 2012. WE THEN IN EARLY 2015, INTENDING DIVISION SERVICED A FAIRLY TENSIVE P PUBLIC PROCESS TO CHANGE THE SMALL AREA TIER BORDER ARES.SINCE THE MOMENT THAT THE THOROUGH PLAN WAS EMBRACED IN 2005, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES IN TERMS OF FOR FUTURE TRANSIT PROPOSITIONS AND SORT OF IMAGINING THE SUBURBAN TRANSIT LOCATIONS THAT WERE FORMERLY MARKED. FEW ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE– ONE WAS SUBURBAN TIERS.IT AREAS TO-WE RERISED THE COMPACT COMMUNITY TIER BORDER IN SOME LOCATIONS, AND DESIGNATED FUTURE LAND WITHIN THOSE AS DESIGN TO INDICATE THAT THEY SHOULD BECOME DESIGN DISTRICT ZONED AND SOME MINOR CHANGES TO
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES CONSISTING OF CLARIFYING AFFORD REAL ESTATE ARE RESOLUTION THAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN TAKEN ON BY ELECTED SOME and authorities LANGUAGE AROUND STRENGTH LANGUAGE.PROPOSED ADJUSTMENTS WERE APPROVED IN JUNE AND AUGUST O 2016, BY ELECTED OFFICIALS. SHORTLY FOLLOWING THAT IN OCTOBER 2016 WE BEGAN DEAL WITH PATTERSON AREA KONL BAKT NEIGHBOR TIER WAS THE FIRST IN WHICH WE CHOSE TO BEGINNING WORKING ON EXECUTION OF OUR NEXT LAYOUT AREA. OUR FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER 2016, WAS REALLY A WHOLE LOT OF THE VERY SAME IDEAS I ' LL BE SPEAKING REGARDING LATER WITH AN INTRODUCTION OF STYLE AREA FRAMEWORK AND DIFFERENT PARTS THAT MAKE UP LAYOUT AREAS AND HOW DOES THAT EFFECT WHAT GETS DEVELOPED.SOLICITATION OF FEEDBACK FROM THE FOLK THAT IS SHOWED UP ABOUT APPLYING THAT
PARTICULAR FRAMEWORK IN THE PATTERSON AREA LOCATION, AND A THEN NOTING WHAT ARE SOME AREAS OF WORRY SPECIFIC TO THAT SPECIFIC COMPACT COMMUNITY RATE. WE THEN IN JUNE OF THE NEXT YEARER, 2017, WE KIND OF HAD A WORK SESSION IN WHICH WE ASKED INDIVIDUALS TO AID United States EXTRACT HOW TO IMPROVE CONNECTION THROUGHOUT THE COMPACT AREA TIER, WHERE SOME KIND OF DETERMINING'SU DISTRICTS FOR FOLKS IN STIPULATIONS OF INTENSITY AND ASKING FOLKS TO GIVE INPUT ON WHERE THOSE MAY BE DRAWN, ACQUIRING FEEDBACK ABOUT APPROPRIATE ELEVATION AND THICKNESS UTILIZING SUR FY VA IN THE CASE SYSTEM.
AFTER THAT TALKING THROUGH DEFENSE WHAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST VITAL FACETS TO PROTECT.FOLLOWING THAT IN MAY OF 2018, WE PROPOSED A RANGE OF CONCEPTS FOR RESPONSES, ONE WERE BELOW AREA BOUNDARY RUS, ANOTHER FOR PROPOSED IN DENSITIES. WE INCLUDED THE ECONOMICAL REAL ESTATE BONUS THAT ' S PART OF THE DECLINE UH NO FOR RESPONSES BACK THEN PUBLIC RELATIONS RO PREFER ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE, PROPOSED ROAD NETWORK AND REVISED PARKING LAWS THAT WOULD AID TRANSITION THE LOCATION TO An EVEN MORE MULTIMODAL FRIENDLY AREA. IN OCTOBER THIS PAST 2018, WE SUPPLIED A DISCUSSION ON THE NEW STYLE KIND WE HAD TURN UP WE WERE CALLING COMPACT SUBURBAN STYLE DISTRICT WHAT IS PROPOSED IN THE MESSAGE CHANGE AND APPLICATION IN PATTERSON LOCATION COMPACT COMMUNITY TIER. EXPERIENCED HOW THE REGULATION FUNCTIONED, HOW LAYOUT DISTRICTS FUNCTION, HOW UH THE DESIGN DISTRICT POST REGULATION DEALS WITH VARIOUS OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE VARIOUS OTHER ARTICLES OF REGULATION AND GIVEN COMPLETE TEXT DEDICATION LANGUAGE, SUB DISTRICT LIMIT DREW UP 4 FEET BACK.SO THE COMPACT SUBURBAN STYLE AREAS THAT ' S INTENDED TO BE APPLIED TO MORE COME REALITY– WE HAVE HANDFUL OF THOSE SPOTS WHERE MLK COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE WHERE WE HAVE THAT KIND OF EXISTING CHARACTER THAT FITS WITH THE APPROPRIATE [INDISCERNIBLE] WHEN CREATING THEM, speaking REGARDING BROADER APPLICATION OF THESE SPECIFICATIONS. GENERALLY IT FOLLOWS EXISTING DESIGN DISTRICT FAMEWORK. HAS [INDISTINCT] DISTRICT APPROPRIATE STRUCTURE POSITIONING, HEIGHT THICKNESS, MINIMUMS, MAXIMUMS, FRONTAGE AND BUILDING TYPES THAT PRESCRIBE HOW THE INVOICING INTERACTS WITH STREETSCAPE AND BASIC DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS AND EXCELLENT METROPOLITAN LAYOUT PRINCIPLES IN ADDITION TO SPECIFICATIONS FOR SEPARATING BLOCKS INTO STREETS AND ALLEYS AND PEDESTRIANS AND OFFERING STREETSCAPE.AS MENTIONED ALSO INCLUDED ECONOMICAL HOUSING REWARD BUT
AISLE GET INVOLVED IN IT A LITTLE LAWSUITER. PROVIDES FR CHANGE USAGE AREA AND BOOST SECURITIES TO GET AT ECOLOGICAL DEFENSE PROBLEMS. PARKING REQUIREMENT ALTERATION TO TRY AND FUNCTION TOWARDS ELIMINATING PARK MINIMUMS TO AIR UH LOU MARKET TO REPLY TO EVEN MORE AS LOCATION SHIFTS TO NOT HAVE OUR CRITERIA [INDISCERNIBLE] WONDER UH AUTO ORIENTED. RUNNING THROUGH LAYOUT AREA IDEA. SUB AREA FROM GRAPHIC HERE WE ' VE GOT CORE ON THE RIGHT, THE LITTLE TRANSIT GRAPHIC THERE IS EITHER ALONG POSTED LOCATIONS AND TERMINAL WOULD REMAIN IN THE CORE, THEN YOU HAVE ASSISTANCE ONE AND SUPPORT 2 AN THEN BORDERING RESIDENTIAL. SO THE CORE AREAS AROUND TERMINAL, ASSISTANCE TWO AREA MEANT TO TRANSITION TO ADJACENT SINGLE HOUSEHOLD RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOR HOODZ, SUPPORT ONE IS THE REST OF THE LOCATION. THOSE BELOW DISTRICTS HAVE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, DENSITIES AND
PERMITTED MAKES USE OF. PARTICULARLY UH IN THE ASSISTANCE TWO, THERE ' S EVEN MORE CONSTRAINT. WE HAVE A GO-TO AREA AND GENERALLY NOTHING ELSE MINIMUM LAWN PRESCRIBED SEEING TO IT THAT THE CONSTRUCTING ISSING UP TO SATISFY THE ROAD TO FORM SPACE YOU ' RE IN AS YOU ' RE STROLLING ALONG THE PATHWAY OR THE STREET. THE ELEVATION PARAMETERS EXPLAIN MAXIMUM and minimal PLATFORM HEIGHT.GRAPHIC SERVING PRELIMINARY STRUCTURE HEIGHT AND THEN ESTABLISHES BACK AN AFTER THAT THERE ' S ADDITIONAL PAST THAT THAT INITIAL SHIETH WHAT WE TELEPHONE CALL PLATFORM ELEVATION. DEMAND FOR ACTION BACK AND OPEN THAT YOU CANISTER REACH AFTER THAT. THERE ARE MAXIMUM and minimal THICKNESS DEVELOPED. MINIMUM TO SHOT AND MAKE SURE SOME RESIDENTIAL TO ASSISTANCE THE TRANSIT AND AFTER THAT MAXIMUM TO TYPE OF MAKE MORE PREDICTABLE MAXIMUM BUILDOUT. FRONTAGE STRUCTURE KIND, PRESCRIBED HOW STRUCTURE CONNECTS WITH THE ROAD, ITSELF. FRONTAGE TYPES ARE REALLY JUST SORT OF THE FACE OF THE DEVELOPING THAT MEETS THE ROAD IS AND DOESN ' T ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE SIZE AND THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE WHEREAS STRUCTURE TYPE WAS EXAMPLE'BUILDING TPE WE HAVE A MONUMENTAL BUILDING SO CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THE ORIGINAL COURT HOUSE STRUCTURE IN DOWNTOWN IN WHICH THERE ' S P PUBLIC ROOM'AROUND IT AND'IT DRAWS BACK FROM THE ROAD SO THERE ' S A KIND THAT PERMITS THAT SORT OF SETTING.GENERAL THE FRONTAGE KIND SUGGESTED SPECIFIC REGULARITY OF
ENTRIES, QUANTITY OF WINDOWS TO CREATE MORE VISIBILITY ON THE STREET AND WAYS TO SEPARATE OVERALL MASS OF THE BUILDING. THEN THERE ARE GENERAL STYLE CRITERIA THAT ARE AGAIN MEANT TO MAKE THE STRUCTURE AS YOU STROLL ALONG EVEN MORE AESTHETICALLY INTERESTING, TO DEVELOP MORE TASK, AND THERE ARE LIKEWISE SPECIFIC STYLE DEMANDS THAT USE TO THE SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURE KINDS AND AFTERWARDS ALO QUITE A FEW THAT USE UH TO STRUCTURED VEHICLE PARKING, TRYING TO MINIMIZE PARKED VEHICLES. ON THE ROADS, SO WE HAVE FUTURE STREET NETWORK THAT IS THE MAP IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE AND I ' VE GOT A MAP REVEALING AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS OVER TME HOW WE ' D LIKE TO SEE GREATER CONNECTIVITY OF ROADWAYS IN ADDITION TO THAT WE ' VE GOT EMBRACED STREET SECTIONS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT ARE LOOKING TO CREATE EVEN MORE MULTIMODAL STREETS WHERE PEOPLE CN WALK AND BIKE AND DRIVE AND HAVE BUSES ALL FUNCTIONING'TOGETHER.ALSO HAVE ESTABLISHED OPTIMUM BLOCK LOCATION AND SIZES STATUTE AS NEIGHBORHOOD TAKES PLACE AND REGULATION TO DEVELOP MORE RIGHTS OF METHOD. HANDFUL OF VARIOUS KIND OF STREETSCAPE CONVENIENCES TO MAKE YOUR STROLL ALONG THE WALKWAY SHIELDED WITH TREES AND LIGHTING AND BENCHES AND GARBAGE RECEPTACLE OR SOMETHING. I STATED THERE ARE TWO ISSUES TRULY TO THE COMPACT SUBURBAN PATTERSON PLACE.APPLICATION AT-I PICTURE WE ' LL GO INTO MORE INFORMATION IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. AMONG THE MATTERS WE ' VE INCORPORATE INTO THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE INCENTIVE. WHEN WE HAVE APPLIED STYLE AREAS FORMERLY, WE HAD PRETTY DRAMATICALLY BOOSTED THE THICKNESS AND ELEVATIONS ADMITTED DOWNTOWN AS AN EXAMPLE THERE ARE MORE MAXIMUM DENSITIES AND OPTIMUM ELEVATION IS 300 FEET BUT YOU INCLUDE EXTRA ELEVATION TO THAT TO UNLIMITED. PROPOSAL WE ' RE MODESTLY ELEVATING TO WHAT WE HAVEST MEATED TO BE THE MINIMAL DENSITY REQUIRED TO BE TRANSPORTATION SUPORTIVE. SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL WE HAD A FUNCTIONING WIH CONSUL ASSISTANT GROUP CALLED ENTRANCE PREPARATION FUNCTIONING ON TRANSIT-ORIENTED ADVANCEMENT PLANNING GRANT IN COLLABORATION WITH GOTRIANGLE AND ORANGE AREA AND SHOT INC. AL J COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT, ETC. THAT EXPERT GROUP ADVANCEMENT FUNCTION ALL OVER THE NATION AND THEIR ADVICE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TYPICAL DENSITY MINIMUM WAS 25 UNITS PER ACRE.DEFINITELY FIGURING OUT A MINIMUM TRANSPORTATION IS TRICKY INQUIRY BUT THAT WAS OUR BEST GU GUE GUESTY. SO THERE ARE SOME PROSPECTIVE IMPLICATIONS WITH THIS STRATEGY THAT WE WANT TO REFERENCE THAT COULD INCLUDE IMPACTS ON'FUTURE TRANSIT LINE, INFLUENCE ON MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL UTILIZES,'AND HOW AUTO PARKING IS MANAGED IN THESE AREAS. ALL IMPACT ON WHETHER AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE BENEFIT EFFECTIVELY AIDS US GET TO OUR TRANSIT-SUPPORTIVE GOALS. ONE OF THE DETAILS WE ' VE NOTED IS THAT USE IN MIX WITH VARIOUS OTHER METHODS IN ORDER TO SEE TO IT WE ' RE RETAINING EXISTING NATURALLY-OCCURRING UNITS AND CREATING NEW SYSTEMS MONEYING IN THE DIRECTION OF'THAT OR USING CAPTURE TECHNIQUES IN ORDER TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT TAKES PLACE SINCE THE BONUS ALONE IS NOT SOMETHING WE ANTICIPATE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE. WE ALSO COMMITTED TO CONTINUING MONITOR THE SUCCESS OF IT IN ORDER TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT AS WE NEED TO TWEAK FUNCTIONING WE CANISTER DO THAT. JUST A PAIR OF NOTES. THERE ' S A GREAT DEAL OF ALMOST 1,200 MULTIFAMILY AND SOLITARY FAMILY MEMBERS UNITS PRESENTLY THE SMALL NEIGHBORHOODS.THERE ' S NO LEGITIMATELY BINDING INEXPENSIVE DEVICES. OF THOSE SYSTEMS, THERE ARER NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABILITY TO FAMILY EARNINGS BETWEEN 60-80 %, THAT ' S 844 OF THOSE SYSTEMS AND 88 OF THOSE TO BELOW 60 %OF AMI. THERE ' S A NEED FOR ATTEMPTING TO APPEARANCE AT EXISTING NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE. THERE ' S ALSO BEEN VARIOUS OTHER METHODS PROSPECTIVE OPTIONS MOVING ON THAT CANISTER PROVIDE FINANCING FOR CRATION OR CONSERVATION OF UNITS OR GIVING GIVE FUNDS. THE VARIOUS OTHER CONCERN THAT I WISHED TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS AS RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT WERE THE AREA FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT ACQUAINTED THE NEW HOPE CREEK CORRIDOR RUNS ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD RATE BORDER. THERE ' S BEEN A PLAN FOR PRESERVATION OF THAT PASSAGE FOR DECADES IN POSITION. THERE ' S A TEAM THAT HAVE BEEN BEEN WORKING TO AID PRESERVE THAT PASSAGE FOR QUITE TIME. WE ' VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH PEOPLE ATTEMPTING TO FIND OUT WHAT ARE SOME WAYS THAT THE NEEDS CONTAINER ADDRESS SOME ECOLOGICAL DEFENSE CONCERNS.TWO DETAILS WE HAVE IN CURRENT PROPOSAL, ONE IS TRANSITIONAL USAGE LOCATION THAT USES, YOU CAN SEE THERE ' S A YELLOW FILLED LI– DIFFICULT TO MAKE OUT ON THIS MAP–'THAT WOULD BE A TRANSITIONAL USAGE AREA WHERE ANY GROWTH WITHIN THAT LOCATION WOULD NEED MAJOR SPECIAL USE LICENSE WITH A HANDFUL OF SEARCHINGS FOR THAT ARE SFOIFK THAT PARTICULAR FUTURE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IT WOULD INCLUDE EXCEPTION FROM EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AS LONG AS THE STRUCTURE OR THE LOCATION DISTU DISTURBANCE DOESN ' T INCREASE. ANOTHER LOCATION SUGGESTING IS INCREASED REQUIREMENTS. EXISTING REQUIREMENTS SPECIFY DEEP EMPHASIS AS WE MODIFYING 15. 5 FOOT CONTIGUOUS AREA FOR IT THE BE PROTECTED WHICH WE ' RE HAVING 2,500, THERE CURRENTLY 15 %DISRUPTION LOCATION AROUND WHICH WE ' RE REMOVING PROVISION FOR DETAILS LIKE ROADWAY CONNECTIONS THAT YOU ' RE ALLOWED TO INTERRUPT FOR AND THERE ' S CURRENTLY A 15%AREA THAT YOU ' RE ALLOWED TO COUNT TOWARD DENSITY CREDIT SCORES WHERE WE ' RE PROPOSING THAT BE WHATEVER LOCATION LAYOUT [INDISCERNIBLE] COUNTER [INDISCERNIBLE] SO SIMPLY REALLY BRIEFLY AS I MENTIONED, THE GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING NOR ITEM IS SCHEDULES FOR YOUR FEBRUARY CONFERENCE. WE ' LL AFTER THAT BE PRESENTING REMAINDER OF THE CITY BOARD AND REGION COMMISSIONERS INFORMATIONAL THING AND THN TO THIS PRONG WILL CERTAINLY GO TO CITY BOARD FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON BOTH MESSAGE DEDICATION AND ZONING
MAP MODIFICATION AND AREA COMMISSIONER FOR TEXT MODIFY WHICH WE HAVE TENTATIVELY SET UP OR PLANNING FOR APRIL SO AS TO GET THEIR BUDGET PLAN CYCLE.I AM HAPPY TO SOLUTION CONCERN ACE UH ROUND THIS AND AS MENTIONED WE ' RE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT W CONTAINER OR IF THERE ARE THINGS WE REQUIREMENT TO INCLUDE RIGHT INTO THE DISCUSSION. > > THAT IS SA GREAT DEAL OF DETAILS. YOU ' VE SPENT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME WORKING ON THIS. I KNOW A GREAT DEAL OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ASSUME WE ' LL SIMPLY OPEN IT APPROXIMATELY COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS OR REMARKS. I ' M SURE WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. > > SURE. EXCELLENT. > > COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER DURKIN. > > CONCERN CONCERNING THE ENFORCEABILITY OF THE AFFORDABLE L REAL ESTATE REWARD; HO ARE YOU GOING TO IMPOSE? > > THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED ANNUAL CHECKS TO GUARANTEE THEY ' RE IN CONFORMITY WITH THAT WHICH I ' M NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'HAVE IN AREA YET BUT WOULD HAVE TO ESTABLISH THAT EXAMPLE. > > TERRIFIC. COMMISSIONER BRINE. > > MANY THANKS. ANOTHER PERSON POINT THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE MEMO THAT INVOLVED United States PRIOR TO DECEMBER CONFERENCE ON THE BASES OF WEB PAGE 3 ABOUT'A BY T.J. COPIES AVAILABLE IN DECEMBER. > > YES. > > I WOULD TRULY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO READ THAT RECORD. IS IT FEASIBLE TO HAVE COPIES BROUGHT TO OUR MEETING NEXT TUESDAY? > > YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE THAT SECONDLY IN SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE EXTRA ACCESSIBILITY POINT– CERTAINTY, IT PRODUCES SOME UNPREDICTABILITY NOT SIMPLY TO THE DESIGNER, I IMPLY WHAT IF SOMEBODY DOESN ' T WANT TO OFFER THEIR'RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OR YOU TIN ' T OBTAIN IT, ARE YOU'STUCK AT THE 90 UNITS AND QUIT YOUR TASK VERSUS ON THE FLIP SIDE YOU HAVE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS AND HOUSE WHO JUST WEAR ' T KNOW WHERE AN ACCESSIBILITY FACTOR IS GOING TO COME AND PERHAPS THEY DON ' T LIKE IN WHICH YOU DESIRED TO PUT IT AND THEY I TO TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT; THAT JUST DOESN ' T– IF WE NEED TO MAKE An ADJUSTMENT I WOULD WANT SOMETHING MUCH EVEN MORE FIT UP I CONCERNS TO KNOWING WHAT WAS COMING WITH THE CHANGES.WITH THAT I ' M INCLINED NOT TO ASSISTANCE THE DEMAND BECAUSE I UH SIMPLY THINK WHAT ' S IN LOCATION RIGHT CURRENTLY WITH EXISTING REZONING BACK IN 2002 FUNCTIONS BETTER THAN WHAT ' S BEING ASKED THIS EVENING. WE DON'' T HAVE SUFFICIENT CONNECTION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, SO, AGAIN, I ' D LIKE TO E ECHO SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WERE EXPLAINED BY COMMISSIONERS JOHNSON AND MILLER. > > I E JUST ASSUMED YOU BROUGHT UP A LOT OF GOOD FACTORS, AND IT APPEARED >> TO ME LIKE YOU WEREN ' T NECESSARILY UH OPPOSED AND I DON ' T THINK– MY ASSUMPTION ARE OTHER NEIGHBORS ARE NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED BUT THEY WANT TO SEE IT DONE IN A METHOD, ONCE AGAIN, THAT RESEMBLES SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN INCREASED UP HERE A I BOUT ACCESS. THEY ' LL SEE OUR REMARKS AND OUR VOTES BUT DO REMAIN INVOLVED GIVEN THAT THEY ' RE THE FINAL DETERMINANT ON THIS ISSUE.THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, DISCUSSION, BALLOT CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE A GO-TO ZONE AND GENERALLY NO OTHER MINIMUM LAWN PRESCRIBED MAKING CERTAIN THAT THE DEVELOPING ISSING UP TO SATISFY THE ROAD TO FORM ROOM YOU ' RE IN AS YOU ' RE WALKING ALONG THE WALKWAY OR THE ROAD.> >. > > YES. > > THIS IS PART OF TRYING TO NUMBER OUT HOW TO MAKE AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE REWARD– > > ATTRACTIVE.
> > CALL FOR RESIDENTIAL LOTS THIS STYLE AREA? > > RESIDENTIAL, NOT AFFORDABILITY. > > THIS IS PART OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE PERK– > > ATTRACTIVE. > > I APPRECIATE IT.THANK YOU REALLY MUCH. > > OK.-WE ' RE NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING THAT ' S BRAND NAME NEW.THERE ARE SIMPLY A NUMBER OF THEM IF YOU LOOKED AT DISCUSSION ALREADY OR LOOKED ONLINE THERE ARE SOME GNERAL SUBJECTS THAT WE ' RE LOOKING TO CUSTOMIZE OR ADD TO. WE ' VE TAKEN An APPEARANCE AT FIGURES CURRENTLY ONTHE BOOKS FOR ZONING DISTRICTS AND USAGE THOSE FOR ADJUSTMENTS AS YOU ' VE SEEN AND HOPEFULLY YOU ' VE SEEN IN DOCUMENTS AND THROUGH OPEN HOUSES YOU ' VE SEEN THESE WAT WE ' RE PROPOSING AT THIS TIME TO READJUST THEM DOWN BY ONE STEP. AS OF RIGHT NOW BUT THE POLES HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 20 FEET WIDE AND WE ' RE LOOKING TO REDUCE THOSE POST WIDTHS TO 12 FEET TO ENABLE MORE FLAG WHOLE LOT OPPORTUNITIES BUT ONCE MORE YOU WOULD BE >> LIMITED TO THE LOT TO THE SIZE OF THE HOME AND IT IN FACT FUFRNGSS AS A PROPERTY OWNER BUILDING OWNER POSSIBILITY THAT ' S VERY SIMILAR IN DESIGN OR RANGE TO AN ADU.SO YOU ' D HAVE AN ADVERTISEMENT NUSHGS REAR OF THE HOUSE OR SMALLER HOUSE ON SEPARATE GREAT DEAL ON A FLAG GREAT DEAL SO THAT ' S AN ALTERNATIVE WE ' RE ALSO PROPOSING.
-WE ' RE NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING THAT ' S BRAND NEW.THERE ARE SIMPLY A NUMBER OF THEM IF YOU LOOKED AT PRESENTATION ALREADY OR LOOKED ONLINE THERE ARE SOME GNERAL SUBJECTS THAT WE ' RE LOOKING TO CHANGE OR ADD TO. WE ' VE TAKEN An APPEARANCE AT NUMBERS CURRENTLY ONTHE BOOKS FOR ZONING DISTRICTS AND USAGE THOSE FOR ADJUSTMENTS AS YOU ' VE SEEN AND HOPEFULLY YOU ' VE SEEN IN DOCUMENTS AND THROUGH OPEN HOUSES YOU ' VE SEEN THESE WAT WE ' RE PROPOSING AT THIS TIME TO CHANGE THEM DOWN BY ONE ACTION. WE HEARD REMARKS OR INTEREST IN ALLOWING PEOPLE TO DO– THERE ' S NO MINIMUM– THE ZONING DOES NOT REQUIRE A MINIMAL HOME SIZE AND THERE ' S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF PASSION IN SMALL RESIDENCES– NOT SPEAKING CONCERNING TINY RESIDENCES, BUT SMALLER HOUSES AND THAT THERE ' S NOT A REQUIRED FOR LARGER LO FOR A SMALLER HOUSE.SO WE HAVE PRESENTED THE REAL ESTATE TYPE THAT ENABLES FOR A SMALLER WHOLE LOT DIMENSION, PROBABLY AROUND WHAT WE PROPOSE AROUND 2 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET BUT IN PROFESSION YOU ARE CAPPED AT THE SIZE OF THE HUSE THAT YOU CAN PUT ON THAT LOT. AS OF RIGHT NOW BUT THE POSTS HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 20 FEET WIDE AND WE ' RE LOOKING TO REDUCE THOSE POST WIDTHS TO 12 FEET TO ENABLE EVEN MORE FLAG GREAT DEAL POSSIBILITIES BUT ONCE AGAIN YOU WOULD BE >> LIMITED TO THE LOT TO THE DIMENSION OF THE RESIDENCE AND IT ACTUALLY FUFRNGSS AS A PROPERTY OWNER BUILDING PROPRIETOR OPPORTUNITY THAT ' S VERY SIMILAR IN LAYOUT OR SCALE TO AN ADU.SO YOU ' D HAVE AN AD NUSHGS BACK OF THE HOUSE OR SMALLER RESIDENCE ON SEPARATE WHOLE LOT ON A FLAG LOT SO THAT ' S AN ALTERNATIVE WE ' RE ALSO PROPOSING. AND THEN ONCE YOU ' VE MADE RECOMMENDATION, WE ' LL ROUTINE FOR ELECTED BODIES, WE ' RE SHOOTING FOR APRIL, MAY AT THE LATEST.THERE'' S A REGULATION IN NORTH CAROLINA THAT FORBIDS United States FROM REGULATING THE LOOK OF SYSTEMS AND I DO NEED TO MAKE SURE ON THE DOCUMENT. AGAIN, ANY STYLE KRASHGTISTICS DUPLEX WOULD BE MOST LIKELY TO BE ESTABLISHED IN SINGLE FAMILY TO STRESS THE POINT MR. STOCK WAS PRODUCTION. >> > > SECOND QUESTION, AS I PRESENTLY UNDERSTAND IT, THE ONLY TOOK ON POLICY STATEMENT OR PO POLICY NEARBY IS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING 15% IN THE LOCATIONS AROUND STYLE LOCATIONS AROUND THE TRANSIT TERMINALS. WHAT, IN THESE PROPOSALS, COMPARES TO GETTING AFFORDABLE REAL ESTATE THERE IF ANYTHING? >> > > THIS IS A FOCUS AROUND PRIMARILY THE URBAN TIER WHICH THERE ARE SOME, THE TRANS STATIONS HAVE THEIR OWN DESIGNATION WHICH ARE THE COMPACT COMMUNITY TIER. >> > > SO THIS IS NOT LIKELY TO AID IN THE COMPACT COMMUNITY TIER, IS THAT WHAT I'' M HEARING YOU CLAIM? > >> WELL, WE RECOGNIZE THERE IS A RANGE OF DIFFERENT GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES AND OPTIONS WE CAN PROVIDE.WE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED IT ON AMONG THE SLIDES THAT DURHAM ' S GOING TO NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THERE ' S SOME STRUCTURE OUT CURRENTLY UH SEEN IN TYPICAL SUBURBAN ADVANCEMENT TOWARDS THE JS WHICH ' S BECOMING EVEN THAT'IS STARTING TO END UP BEING INCREASINGLY MORE PRICEY AS LAND IS JUST GENERALLY BECOMING INCREASINGLY MORE EXPENSIVE AND TH DIFFICULTIES, THERE ' S NO EASY LAND AVAILABLE TO DEELOP. THERE'' S GREAT DEALS OF ENVIRONMENTAL DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WITH THAT LAND OR STRUCTURE UP WHICH IS TAKING A LOOK AT GENERALLY AROUND MIDTOWN WHERE YOUR COMPACT AREA TIERS AND AFTERWARDS TAKING An APPEARANCE AT WHT ASPECTS OF STRUCTURE IN CAN WE ACCOMPLISH.
>> > > OK. ONE LAST INQUIRY. THIS TRAINEE WAS AVAILABLE IN SOUTH DURHAM. IF YOU'' RE NOT CAREFUL, WHAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN BASED ON SOME DEVELOPERS I'' VE TALKED WITH IS IF THEY CAN OBTAIN IT FROM THE PROPRIETORS THEY WANT THE COMMUNITY HOUSES. COMMUNITY RESIDENCES APPEAR TO BE TODAY. EXISTS ANY MEANS THAT THESE CHANGES CAN MAYBE AID PEOPLE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, MAKE DETAILS IN THIS LAND THAT'' S AVAILABLE MORE AFFORDABLE? >> > > I INDICATE THAT ' S A DIFFICULT INQUIRY TO
ANSWER.I MEAN, LAND IS JUST GOING COMING TO BE MORE AND EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE AND TOWN HALL ARE PROMINENT BECAUSE, A, YOU TIN GIVE MORE DEVICES BASED UPON THE LAND YOU'' RE PAYING FOR AND IT'' S BUILT UNDER SAME DRN WHEN UH YOU OBTAIN 2 QUADS AND SMLL APARTMENTS YOUR UNDER INDUSTRIAL CODE AND HITTING HOST OF ADDITIONAL REGULAR HATORY DEMANDS. >> > > THANKS. COMMISSIONER MILLER. >> > > AMONG THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS THE– I’M SORRY, PATRICK YOU MIGHT WISH TO TIP IN– IF I RECOGNIZE THE EXISTING PREPARE FOR APPLY KABILITY IS GOING TO BE ANYTHING IN THE OPEN TIER EXCEPT FOR RS-20.
THE BIGGEST RS-20 I RECOGNIZE IS FOREST HILLS. >> > > NO INTEBT TO EXEMPT THAT COMMUNITY, THE AIM WAS TO PUT ON THE URBAN RATE AND TO THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL URBAN RU ZONING DISTRICTS SEVERAL OF WHICH ARE IN THE URBAN TIER. COMMISSIONER BRINE ASKED CONCERNING PALSY. >> > > BUT WE ALSO HAVE RS ZONES IN– SO RS # AND RS-10 REMAIN IN THE URBAN TIER AND WE'' RE APPLYING IT TO THAT. BUT NOT APPLYING IT TO UNUSED LAND. IF I COMPREHEND THIS PROPERLY, WHAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM ADVERTISEMENT NUSHGS RS-20. >> > > ADU PROVISION WOULD APPLY TO ANY UH RESIDENTIAL. IT'' S NOT LIMITED.AS I TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT IN MY COMMENTS, WE INTENDED TO ENSURE THESE PROPOSALS REMAINED IN CONTEXT AND INC. MENTAL. 20 IS MUCH LESS THICKNESS ZONING DISTRICT AND FULL APPLICATION OF ALL OF THESE PROVISIONS WE DID ELUDE TO ADU CRITERIA AND SOME WOULD APPLY RS-20 BUT TO APPLY UH ALL REQUIREMENTS WOULD RUN OUT CONTEXT. WE NEED COMMENTS ON THAT PARTICULAR. >> > > I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW REASONING IS. I'' M NOT SAYING. >> > > SURE >>. > > SO I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE– STRIKE THAT– THE ADU PLACE PROPOSAL. ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS BASED ON THE OLD WEST DURHAM EXPERIENCE IS THE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE THE GREAT DEALS ARE 50 BY 150 OR 50 BY 100 OR SMALLER AND SOMEONE DEVELOPS AN ADU YARD, IT CANISTER CONTROL THE YARD PRIVACY IF YOUR HOUSE HAS IT ON EITHER SIDE. LOOKS LIKE YOU'' RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT TO ENSURE ADVERTISEMENT SUSHGS CLOSER TO PRINCIPLE RESIDENCE.WHAT I DIDN ' T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ' RE STATING ON THE POSTER FOR THAT, CANISTER YOU EXPLAIN IT FOR ME SO I COMPREHEND IT BETTER. > > BIGGEST MODIFICATION WITH >> PLACE NEED NOW THEY ' RE REQUIRED TO BE TO'THE REAR OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. WHAT WE'' RE PROPOSING IS TO ALLOW OPPORTUNITY TOTHE SIDE. >> > > TO THE SIDE, DOYOU MEAN AROUND LITERALLY TO THE SIDE. >> > > THE SIDE OF IT. A NUMBER OF YOU HAVE SEEN SEPARATED GARAGES THAT ARE TO THE SIDE OF A HOUSE, SO WE'' RE LOOKING TO MAKE THAT ALLOWANCE ALLY TO ADUs.GENERALLY PROPOSING
IS TO THE BACK HALF OF YOUR HOUSE SO IT ' S WRONG UP FRONT WITH THE PRIMARY FRAMEWORK. >> > > THAT ' S THE COMPONENT I DIDN'' T UNDERSTAND. WHAT ' S THE BACK FIFTY PERCENT? >> > STROLL DOWN TE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE YOU HAVE FRONT FIFTY PERCENTS AND BACK FIFTY PERCENT. >> > > OK >>. > > WHEN WE BRING MESSAGE WITH YOU, WE'' RE BATTLING WIH THE APPROPRIATE PHRASING FOR THAT TOO BUT THAT'' S GENERAL THINK CONCEPT. >> > > MY OWN choice ADUs IS THEY BE UP CLOSER TO THE FRAMEWORK TO WHICH THEY'' RE ACCESSORIZED, AND SO THE BACKYARDS ARE COST-FREE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'' S WHAT NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR TOPIC TO. REQUIRING TRUTH AND I DON'' T UNDERSTAND, TROUBLED BY THE TREE TO BE HOME WINDOW DRESSING TO ME.RS – LINE UP WITH THE SITUATION OF WHERE ON A SMALL LOT YOU TIN HAVE A DEEP BREAK AND ADU AND LIKEWISE CALL FOR A TREE IN THE BACKYARD NOT GOING TO HAVE MUCH SPACE FOR IT.I ' M NOT SURE I RECOGNIZE IT, WHAT IF THE TREE DIES? ZONING INFRACTION? >> > > YEAH. THE TREE REQUIREMENT IS IN FACT STOLEN FROM THE OLD WEST DURHAM. >> > > AND'I ' M NOT MAKING ENJOYABLE, I ' M WORRIED ABOUT– > > TREE NEED– SO WHAT THE TREE NEED DOES IS PAIR MATTERS. A, IT ASSISTS ADDRESS POSSIBLE LOSS OF TREE CANISTER P PI WHICH IF YOU'' RE GOING ENABLE ADVANCEMENT YOU'' RE GOING LOSE TREES. YOU ' LL BE SEEING ACTUALLY A SEPARATE ZONING TEXT CHANGE WHICH BRINGS MORE TREE COVERAGE NEEDS AND SUCH NEXT MONTH. WHAT IT ADDITIONALLY DOES IS BEGINNING TO MINIMIZE OR PREVENT EXTRA IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA, SO IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TREE OR SHOW EITHER PRESERVE A TREE OR PLANT ONE, YOU START TO REQUIRED A LITTLE BIT LESS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.COUPLED ALSO WITH
THE DRIVEWAY DEMANDS, MINIMIZING SIZE OF THE DRIVEWAY. > > DRIVEWAY NEED WAS MAKE FEELING, I WAS HAVING PROBLEM UNDERSTANDING HOW THE TREE THING WAS GOING TO WORK. > > TREE WAS ACTUAL LAY STRAIGHTFORWARD >> BUT EFFECTIVE METHOD OF TRYING TO PRESENT MORE TREE CANISTER AND A REALLY VERY EASY METHOD OF DOING IT THAT ' S UNDERSTANDABLE TO ANYBODY WHO ' S LOOKING TO SIMPLY CONSTRUCT A HOME OR AN ADU OR SOMETHING. > > TREE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT TREE CANISTER SPOI >> THIS HAS GOT TO BE A CANOPY TREE. > > TREE CANOPY WE ' RE TALKING> ABOUT EITHER UNDERSTORY OR COVER TREE BECAUSE THERE ARE VARIOUS GROWING LOCATION REQUIREMENTS AND LIABILITIES FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS. ALSO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE CURRENT STREET REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED ON PRIVATE BUILDING SO THOSE ARE ADDITIONALLY PRESENTLY REVIEWED AND IMPLEMENTED, SO REALLY IT ' S SIMPLY ADDING AN ADDED CHECK BOX TO SEE IF THERE ' S A TREE THERE WHETHER MAINTAINED OR PLANTED. > >'AND AFTER THAT IN FILL REQUIREMENT POINT, IF I RECOGNIZE IT PROPERLY>> TODAY, THE IN FILL STANDARDS BASED UPON THE IDEA OF TURN PROBLEMATIC WRITTEN RIGHT INTO THE CODE, GREAT DEALS AND GREAT DEALS OF THEM [INDISCERNIBLE] IF I COMPREHEND IT CORRECTLY IN FILL HOME IN THERE HAS TO BE [BASICALLY CLAIMS INDISTINCT] SOMEHOW TO THE STANDARD LEVELS OF SOMEHOW OF YOUR HOUSES ON THE BLOCK BASE, BUT IF YOU HAVE EVEN MORE THAN 25 SEPARATION FROM NEAREST DWELLING YOU INCLUDE 14 FEET TO THAT AVERAGE NUMBER AS LONG AS YOU WEAR ' T MAX OUT 85 FEET DEMAND; IS THAT RIGHT, THAT ' S THE CURRENT? > > NO, BIT DIFFERENTLY WHICH ' S WHY WE ' RE CHANGING IT.YOUR HELD TO EITHER THE ZONING ELEVATION OR 1 FEET WHICHEVER IS LESSER. THAT 25 FOOT YO ' RE TALKING ABOUT IS DUMPING THAT 14 FOOT HAT, IN ITSELF.
SO WE ' RE CLARIFYING HOW AND ACTION YOU CONTRAST THE ELEVATION TO– > > 35 FOOT IS'DEMAND NO ISSUE WHAT. > > IT ADDITIONALLY NEEDS YOU WHAT WOULD BE THE LESSER. IF THE LESSER IS WHAT IS– > > AREA OF ONE TALE HOUSES AND> UNDER THE CURRENT RULES YOU TIN ' T BUILD ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL OR LARGER THAN A ONE TALE HOUSE UNLESS YOU ' VE GOT 25 FOOT SPLITTING UP>;? > > NO.YOU CA ADD, IT PERMITS AN EXTRA STORY, 14 FEET GIVES YOU AN'ADDED TALE. > > REALLY NOT A REQUIREMENT ADVANCEMENT [INDISCERNIBLE] DUE TO THE FACT THAT STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS CITIZEN UNLESS APARTMENT ROOFING SYSTEM IS SAY ROUND 18-22 FEET. YOU ' RE SETTING [INDISCERNIBLE]> THIS IS JUST WASTED PAPER IN THE CODE. > > WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THAT ' S A COMMENT WE ' D LIKE TO SPEAK WITH. > > I DON ' T THINK'OUR USUAL REQUIREMENTS ARE– IF JEFF WAS STRUCTURE THAT TRIGGERED SO MUCH LEGISLATION THERE UNDER EXISTING IN FILL STANDARDS TO DEVELOP AN MPO FOR THEM, OUR IN FILL'SPECIFICATIONS ARE NOT REQUIREMENTS. >> THAT ' S MY MONITORING. YOU PUT ON ' T HAVE TO RESPOND. > > I UH WASN ' T GOING TO. [LAUGHTER] > > I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BECAUSE COMPONENT OF YOUR DISCUSSION, PATRICK, IS THAT'WE INTEND TO PROTECT THE CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND DO THAT WITH IB FILL STANDARDS BUT I WEAR ' T THINK WE HAVE IN FILL CRITERIA. >> WE ' RE TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTION RELAXING THEM BUT IT ' S ONLY A COUPLE FEET OFF THE MAXIMUM IS ANYWAY.IT ' S EVEN MORE OF An IRRITABILITY THAN PERSONALITY DEFENSE AND I ' M ALL FOR CHECKING CHARACTER,'I ' M VERSUS GUIDELINE FOR THE PURPOSE OR E EFFECTIVE MERELY IR STATING.
> >'APPRECIATE YOUR POIT. WE DO TAKE THE REQUIREMENT TO PROTECT CONTEXT REALLY SERIOUSLY. WE ALSO WORRY CANDIDLY,'THAT AN INDIVIDUAL PROTECTION OVER LAY IS GREAT TOOL FOR AREA BUT COLLECTIVELY GRADUALLY LIKE CHAPEL HILLSIDE AND RALEIGH WHO HAVE GREATER THAN A LOADS, IT BECOMES SUBSTANTIAL CONSTRAIN ON HOUSING SUPPLY AND AFFORDABILITY.WE THINK IT ' S REALLY VITAL IF YOU COULD AID United States, WERE ALL EARS, ABSOLUTELY, TO CRAFT SPECIFICATIONS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT PURPOSEFUL IN FILL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE AMRIBLG AND DEFENSIBLE THAT COULD BE APPLIED ACROSS BAN HERE TO PERMITS– THROUGHOUT URBAN TIER.
WE BATTLE'DAILY TO LOOK FOR THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU REALLY FEEL LIKE WE ' VE MISSED THE MARK. WE ' D LOVE YOUR INP PUT ON REQUIREMENTS WE COULD APPLY BROADLY THAT WOULD GET THAT DEEPER DEGREE OF COMMUNITY BUY IN. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALL COMMUNITIES ARE FIGHTING WITH. NORTH CAROLINA HAS MADE IT MUCH, MUCH HARDER BY NOT ALLOWING US TO REGULATE STYLE O DESIGN. IF YOU DESIGN DESIGN WE COULD OBTAIN 90%OF THE WAY THERE, I ' M A BELIEVER THAT. > > I RECOGNIZE THAT AND I INTEND TO MAKE MY FINAL FACTOR. I AM WORRIED THAT BY DOING ALL OF THIS BY-RIGHT, LEAVES OUT ORDINARY INDIVIDUALS THINKING ABOUT WHOLE PREPARATION PROCEDURE IS THE HOME THEY BUY O IN WHICH THEY LIVE FROM HAVING ACTIVE ONGOING SAY IN THEIR CREATING REGULATORY ATMOSPHERE. ZONING VIABLE ONLY IF IT PROTECTS THE PUBLIC WELL-BEING BUT MAKE IT TO ENSURE THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC CANISTER ' T TAKE PART PROPERLY AT THE SAME TIMES AND WE ' VE BEEN EXTREMELY EXCELLENT AT THIS, WE ' VE REDUCED PUBLIC COMING TO THESE HEARINGS AND CLAIMING NO– DO THAT ANY LONGER, I CHALLENGE THAT. SOME OF THESE SPECIAL THINK BATTLE EACH OTHER PLACE PROPOSAL NOT HAVING An USAGE PERMIT WHICH THEN WOULD ENABLED A DROESZ IMPOSE PROBLEM– WORRY ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING TO DISAPPEAR. AS LONG AS'ORDINARY INDIVIDUALS WOULD HAVE A SNA THE WAY THEY GAVE ADJUSTMENT. USE LICENSE TURN UP AND SAY I WEAR ' T SUCH AS THIS AND BOARD OF CHANGE SAY DON ' T HIRE PEOPLE [INDISTINCT] DIDN ' T LIKE IT, THAT ' S NOT OUR FACTOR FOR TRANSFORMING IT DOWN, BUT I ASSUME WE CAN HAE CRITERIA, ESPECIALLY AS IT CONNECTS TO COMPATIBILITY AND VEHICLE PARKINGS AND OTHER CONCERNS WE CURRENTLY ADDRESS IN OUR STANDARDS FOR'USAGE PERMITS.—- ADDITIONALLY ENABLE NORMAL INDIVIDUALS TO'PROCEED HAVE HAVE A HAND ON THE STEERING WHEEL IN PREPARATION AND ZONING ENVIRONMENT. THAT ' S MY BIGGEST ISSUE. > > THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND COMMISSIONER BAKERER AND AFTER THAT COMMISSIONER AL-TURK.
> > I FAILED TO REMEMBER. > > WE ' LL COME BACK TO YOU AND IF YOU REMEMBER. COMMISSIONER BAKER. > > I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD WORK, REALLY IMPORTANT FUNCTION. I UH DEFINITELY SUPPORT> THE SPIRIT OF THE WHAT YOU ' RE DOING. DISADVANTAGE TICKET WALL COMPATIBILITY SPECIFICATIONS I ASSUME, ARE SOMETHING THAT MAY NEED TO BE >> DUG RIGHT INTO MORE.I DO THINK IT ' S FEASIBLE TO RISE DENSITY AND IN FILL SCENARIOS >> WITHOUT MESSING UP PERSONALITY OF COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE WE COULD ACTUALLY ENHANCE CHARACTER OF COMMUNITY, A GREAT DEAL OF OUR FAVORITE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY ARE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SELECTION HOUSING KIND THAT TEND TO BE HISTORIC.
I DO THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL MOST LIKELY EXPERIENCE, WILL CERTAINLY BE PASSED AND END UP BEING NEIGHBORHOOD LEGISLATION. I DO THINK UH THERE WILL BE DEVELOPERS OUT THERE THAT WILL CERTAINLY TAKE BENEFIT IN ORDER TO DEVELOP REGIONAL GROWTH SO ANTICIPATING TO THE BEST EXTENT POSSIBLE ENSURING WE ' RE LOOKING AHEAD TO AS HIGH AS WE CANISTER REALLY IMPORTANT HAVE SOMETHING SEVERAL OF THE POINTS THAT COMMISSIONER MILLER TALKED ABOUT, MAYBE REASONING ABOUT HOW CANISTER WE MAYBE NOT MAKE EVERYTHING BY RIGHT BUT SAY YOU WISH TO GO UP TO 2 OR THREE OR 4 SYSTEMS, BELOW ' S WHAT YOU NEED TO PROVIDE. I PUT ON ' T KNOW QUITE ENOUGH ABOUT THE REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY ALIGNED WITH DESIGN REQUIREMENTS. , if THERE ' S SOME OF OF INCENTIVIZING HIGHER DENSITY THROUGH DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS.. OF COURSE IT ' S REWARD FOR COMMUNITY TO ALLOW NEIGHBOR SOMETHING THAT ' S HIGHER DENSITY FOUR OR FIVE UNITS OR EVEN MORE WITH LAYOUT CRITERIA IF THAT ' S POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT COULD BE A METHOD OF ENCOURAGING INDIVIDUALS TO SUPPORT THIS.IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY ONE OF THIS IS DWA DW DW DW DWAERED GEARED TOWARD IN FILL. I QUESTION– A GREAT DEAL OF PEOPLE BEING'PRESSED OUT OF IN FILL AREAS. I WEAR ' T KNOW IF YOU CANISTER TALK WITH ANYTHING THAT RELATES'ABOUT AREA DESOIN SPECIFICATIONS. > > WE ' RE LOOKING TO CHANGE THE CROSS NEIGHBORHOOD NEED WHICH IS WE ' RE SEEING A WHOLE LOT EVEN MORE REQUESTS FOR AND PRESERVATION TO PERMIT EVEN MORE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES TO BE OFFERED
WITHIN THOSE ADVANCEMENTS, PARTICULARLY DUPLEXES THROUGHOUT DESPITE PRESERVATION SUBDIVISIONS COMMUNITY HOUSES TOO. CURRENTLY HAVE HIGHWAY DENSITY INCENTIVE THAT PERMITS COMMUNITY HOUSES. I THINK THIS MAY BE MORE URBAN RATE, I COULD BE WRONG.THIS IS THE ONE >> AREA WHERE WE ARE INTRODUCING MULTIPLEX CHOICE. MULTIPLEXES ARE CURRENTLY A REAL ESTATE'OPTION WITHIN UDO, JUST SMALL STRUCTURES, RECOMMENDING THEM ALONG MJOR THOROUGHFARES AND BOULEVARDS, SO WE ' RE STARTING TO CONSIDER THAT. I THINK WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE THOROUGH STRATEGY PROCEDURES AND HAVE A LOOK AT HOW DURHAM SEES ITSELF EXPANDING IN NEXT COUPLE DECADES WE ' LL HAVE BETTER DEAL WITH ON IN WHICH TO INTRODUCE THESE A LOT MORE VARIOUS EVEN MORE INTENSE REAL ESTATE KINDS
, THE THREE OR FIVE-UNIT HOUSING, GARDEN-STYLE APARTMENTS, AND AFTER THAT LIKEWISE INTRODUCE INVOLVED DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE TOO BECAUSE WE DO ANTICIPATE THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE SOME CHANGES TO THE REGULATION WHEN THE THOROUGH STRATEGY IS ADOPTED. > > RAPIDLY ADD ON TO WHAT MICHAEL CLAIMED. I THINK COMMISSIONER BAKERER AND MILLER AS I GUARANTEED COMMISSIONER MILLER WE WILL TAKE A TOUGH TAKE A LOOK AT THE IN FILL SPECIFICATIONS AND N PRODUCTION SURE WE GO AS FAR AS E WE CAN UNDER REGULATION TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE PROTECTIVE O EXISTING CHARACTER, BUT IN REQUISITES OF– AND WE ' LL REMAIN TO EVALUATE– ALL RIGHT DONE WORK CHECKING OUT CITIES AND ATTORNEY ' S OFFICE TO EXAMINATION REALM OF WHAT ' S POSSIBLE AND LEGAL.IT ' S LEGALLY POSSIBLE TO MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF WHAT YOU LEARNT THROUGH MICHAEL AUTHORIZATION FOR USE >> LICENSE OR OTHER PROCESS. WE HAVE CONCLUDED THAT DUE TO CONSTRAINT ON THE LAYOUT IN STATE LEGISLATION AND SOLITARY FAMILY AND 2 FAMILY THERE ' S NO DISTINCTION IN BETWEEN ONE AND 2 FAMILY DEVICES VARIOUS OTHER THAN PERMITTING SOMEBODY TO CREATE 100 %EVEN MORE REAL ESTATE CHANCES IF THEY ' RE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT A DUPLEX, AND THAT ' S WHY WE HAVEN ' T FELT IT WAS REQUIRED OR NEEDED TO HAVE'A SUPPLEMENTAL USE PERMIT AT'THAT.BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE A BATHROOM -SIMPLY WANT YOU TO KNOW WHERE WE ' RE AT, AT THIS MOMENT AND APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK AND INVESTIGATE THAT FURTHER. > > THANKS. COMMISSIONER AL-TURK. > > THANKS. QUESTION CONCERNING THE STUDY. DO YOU HAVE A FEELING OF HOW REP IT IS OF THE POPULATION IN ITS ENTIRETY IN REGARDS TO GEOGRAPHY, race, and earnings? > > THE ONE OVER THE SUMMER? > > YEAH. > > THE ONE OVER THE SUMMERTIME WE DID NOT ASK THOSE CONCERNS. > > OK'. > > IF M RECOLLECTION AND ONCE MORE IT ' S RECOLLECTION SO DON ' T HOLD ME TO IT, USUALLY
QUITE BAD, THOSE FEEDBACKS WEREN ' T ABLE TO TRACK WHERE PEOPLE LIVED OR IN WHICH THEY WERE ACCESSING IT FROM AND IT WAS SOMEWHAT BY RECOLLECTION RATHER REPRESENTATIVE AROUND DIFFERENT LOCATIONS >> OF DURHAM AND OUTSIDE OF DURHAM TOO IT EVEN HIT PLACES IN EUROPE TOO, UNUSUALLY. [LAUGHTER] IT WAS PRETTY AGENT THROUGHOUT. > > I JUST INTENDED TO SEE TO IT >> 70% OF PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH >> DUPLEXES BUT IT ' S NOT BECAUSE THEY ALL STAY IN >> SANDY >> PARK OR– I HAVE A PAIR SMALL CONCERNS. ONE ON THE ADUs. THIS WAS ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT MPO THAT I DID NOT LIKE WHICH IS THE 800 SQUARE FOOT OPTIMUM. MAKE IT EVEN MORE ADAPTABLE BY ELIMINATING 30% BUT THAT ' S ALSO MAKING IT MORE ARE RESTRICTIVE.IF AMONG THE GOALS IS TO MAKE ADUs Even More PROINENT, NOT JUST IN URBAN CORE BUT THROUGHOUT, THEN I ' M NO SURE WHAT ' S THE POINT OF COVERING IT AT
100 AS OPPOSED TO BOOSTING PERCENTAGE OR PERHAPS DOING IT TO WHERE IT ' S URBAN RATE >> IT ' S MAXIMUM OF 800, SOME OTHER THINGS YOU GO UP TO A THOUSAND OR 1,200 OR SOMETHING? > > WE CONTAINER EXPLORE THAT. I ASSUME WHAT WAS CRITICAL WE BELIEVED WAS HAVING A SET OPTIMUM SO THAT THE MARKET ARCHITECTS, DESIGNERS AND SMALL BUILDERS COULD HAVE A STANDARDIZED STRATEGY THAT THEY COULD USAGE IN COLLABORATING WITH LOCAL CHAPTER ON AHEAD WITH TYPICAL LAYOUT FOR THE 800 SQUARE FEET SYSTEM, BUT IN REQUISITES OF– OUR AMONG OUR PRIMARY CONCERNS TO THE COMMENT THAT IS MR.MILLER AND BAKER MADE WAS ENSURING THAT ADUs REMAIN ACCESSORY. WE DID DO SOME INVESTIGATE AND RESEARCH STUDY TO PROGRAM THAT IF YOU ' VE GOT A COMMUNITY PRIMARY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WHEN KWU YOU OVERCOME A SQUARE VIDEO LOOKING AND REALLY FEELING LIKE A 2ND PRIMARY STRUCTURE. WE ' LL >> REMAIN TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WHERE THERE ' S MUCH LARGER LOTS WE COULD DO THAT BUT ALSO FOR URBAN TIER WE FEELING STRONGLY FOR 800. > > MANY THANKS. THE VARIOUS OTHER INQUIRIES CONCERNING DUPLEXES. CURRENTLY UH I CAN ' T REMEMBER EXACTLY BUT FROM WHAT– SO THE FOCUS IS ON DUPLEXES OR CHANGING SOME GUIDELINES WITHIN THE URBAN TIER, BUT AGAIN IT ' S A REASON NOT TO EXPAND THAT TO THE SUV TIER.
I OBTAIN THAT A GREAT DEAL OF PEOPLE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GOING TO PROTEST DUPLEXES BUT WHY– SPECIFICALLY IF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS LIKE THE RS-10 AND 8, WHY NOT PERMIT DUPLEXES THERE? > > WE COULD CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.I THINK I THERE WERE 2 PRIMARY REASONS. ONE IS SOMETHING I TRY UHHED TO ELUDE TO'IN MY DISCUSSION IS WISHED TO REALLY I CONCENTRATES THESE MODIFICATIONS WHERE THE GREATEST NEED WAS AND TREMENDOUS DIFFERENTIAL MULTIP APPROXIMATELIES IN STIPULATIONS OF PER SQUARE FOOT URBAN TIER A LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SUR BURR INTOON WE FELT LIKE THE UTIZATION OF THIS ACCESSIBILITY WOULD BE HIGHER. SECOND IS THAT SUBURBAN RATE THERE ' S A MUCH HIGHER OCCURRENCE OF FUNCTIONAL HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATIONS WITH RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT COME WITH [INDISCERNIBLE] WOULD LIKELY EVEN IF YOUR ZONING ALLOWED IT WOULD PROHIBIT OR PRECLUDE USING THAT. A NUMBER OF TESE COVENANTS NEIGHWIDE ARE SOMETHING THAT RESTRICT HOUSE SUPPLY INCREASES MAKES USE OF COST PROHIBIT APART FROM SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS DEVICES. > > SO MAYBE THE BIGGER QUESTIO I UH HAVE YOU ' RE NT FOCUSING ON MULTIPLEXES AT THIS TERMINAL AND PAT YOU ADDITIONALLY SAID THIS IS JEBT L APPROACH, I THINK THE QUESTION IS, BECAUSE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION IT VIRTUALLY SEEMED LIKE DOOMSDAY LIKE WE ' VE GOT SO LOTS OF INDIVIDUALS IN DURHAM AND WE DON ' T HAVE ADEQUATE SUPPLY. WHY TAKE GENTLE L METHOD, WHY NOT FOCUS ON MULTIPLEXES CONTAINER YOU TALK'THROUGH THE THINKING? > > 2 PRIMARY REASONS.SOMEONE SENSIBLE AND ONE IS PHILOSOPHICAL. WE THNK IT ' S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE GREATER DEGREE DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE THINK WE ' VE DONE A GOOD WORK OVER LAST FEW MONTHS GREATER AREA INVOLVEMENT TALKING TO THEM AND LISTENING TO THEM ABOUT THE PROBLEM. WE PRESENTED IT TO YOU TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTAINER OBTAIN A HIGHER LEVEL OF BUY IN FROM THE BROADSER AREA ON THOSE LARGER SALE REMEDIES, THE GARDEN APARTMENTS AND 4 PLEXES. WE THINK UH THE EXTENSIVE STRATEGY IS A REMARKABLE AUTOMOBILE TO DO THAT [INDISTINCT] HELP United States COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH AND BE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY TELL THIS TALE PERHAPS THAN I UH HAVE TONIGHT IN EVEN MORE PLACES IN THE AREA BEFORE WE PROPOSE THOSE ADJUSTMENT WHICH CAN BE PERCEIVED. SECOND REASON IS PRACTICAL. ZONING IS JUST ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. THE OTHER ITEMS >> ARE THINGS LIKE STORMWATER
NEEDS, ROAD SPECIFICATIONS RQUIRE CERTAIN SIZE OF ROADWAYS'FOR TRASH TRUCKS AND FIRE TRUCK TURNAROUNDS AND ENERGY SPECIFICATIONS THAT'WE BELIEVE IF WE GO TO THREE PLEXES, FOUR PLEXES OR YARD APARTMENTS WE NEED TO LOOK A THESE OTHER CRITERIA AND ENSURE WE HAVE FIRE TOOLS THAT CONTAINER GO INTO SMALLER ROADWAYS AND SOLUTION THESE HIGHER STRENGTH AREAS.WE NEED TO APPEARANCE AT HOW WE MANAGE OUR STORMWATER CRITERIA THAT CURRENTLY HAVE TO BE ON-SITE. BECAUSE OF THESE OTHER REGULATIONS HINDERING THAT, WE FELT LIKE IF WE DID PRESS FOR EVEN MORE INTENSE RANGE OF USES IN EVEN MORE AREAS WE WOULDN ' T BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THEM. MAKE GOOD SENSE? > > HELPFUL. THANKS. > > I UH KNOW THE HOUR IS LATE. I DID WISH TO SAY COUPLE QUICK THINGS AS WE COVER UP. RUB, I ' M THANKFUL YOU INCREASED THE STORMWATER CRITERIA. THE QUESTION IS SOMETHING WE ARE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AN EYE ON IN ADDITION TO THE TRE CAN P PI ISSUE UH WHICH YOU ' RE WORKING TO ADDRESS IN THIS PROPOSITION. I ' VE BEEN EXCITED WITH THE BALANCE OF ACQUIRING PUBLIC RESPONSES BUT TRYING TO RELOCATE THIS VIA QUICKLY P. FOUND THE EQUILIBRIUM.
> > AND'I ' M NOT MAKING FUN, I ' M WORRIED ABOUT– > > TREE REQUIREMENT– SO WHAT THE TREE NEED DOES IS COUPLE THINGS. > > NO, LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AND THAT ' S WHY WE ' RE CHANGING IT.YOUR HELD TO EITHER THE ZONING HEIGHT OR 1 FEET WHICHEVER IS LESSER. > > I UH WASN ' T GOING TO. ZONING SENSIBLE ONLY IF IT PROTECTS THE PUBLIC WELFARE BUT MAKE IT SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ' T PARTICIPATE EFFICIENTLY IN THE PROCESS AND WE ' VE BEEN REALLY EXCELLENT AT THIS, WE ' VE REDUCED PUBLIC COMING TO THESE HEARINGS AND STATING NO– DO THAT ANY LONGER, I OBJECT TO THAT. > > SO MAYBE THE BIGGER QUESTIO I UH HAVE YOU ' RE NT FOCUSING ON MULTIPLEXES AT THIS STATION AND RUB YOU ADDITIONALLY SAID THIS IS JEBT L STRATEGY, I THINK THE INQUIRY IS, DUE TO THE FACT THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSION IT VIRTUALLY APPEARED LIKE DOOMSDAY LIKE WE ' VE GOT SO LOTS OF INDIVIDUALS IN DURHAM AND WE DON ' T HAVE ADEQUATE SUPPLY.SOMETHING TO FOCUS ON IS THE BLOG POST– IF THIS DOES GO FORWARD AND GET APPROVED WE HAVE TO FUNCTION TOUGH TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO EDUCATE the public and involve OR WE'' LL SEE WHAT WE SAW WITH PINE CREST IN WHICH INDIVIDUALS WERE REVEALING UP AND STATING WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN THAT OUR AREA TRANSFORMED THE TIER WE'' RE IN AND WENT VIA OBVIOUSLY VERY EXTENSIVE PUBLIC PROCEDURE BUT IT'' S EASY TO OBTAIN THROUGH THE PROCEDURES AND SAY WE'' VE MADE IT BUT WE DEMAND TO MAKE CERTAIN WE'' RE EDUCATING COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING HEE.I THINK I WE'' RE STRIKING FANTASTIC BALANCE IN STIPULATIONS NOT MOVING ALSO QUICKLY UH BUT WE– YOU'' RE GOING LISTEN TO A LOT IF PEOPLE SEE THE PEOPLE and adjustments DIDN'' T UNDERSTAND AND MISSED THIS INVOLVEMENT PROCESS. I'' M HOPING THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE A POST EDUCATION PROCESS THAT THE TEAM COULD SPEND TIME THINKING ABOUT. I ' VE BEEN IN DURHAM MY WHOLE LIFE, WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR US.WE ' VE SUR PROOI VOOIFED HOUSING AND– ENDURED HOUSE AND FINANCIAL CRISIS.
SOMETHING TO FOCUS ON IS THE MESSAGE– IF THIS DOES GO FORWARD AND GET AUTHORIZED WE HAVE TO FUNCTION TOUGH TO MAKE CERTAIN WE CONTINUE TO INFORM the public and involve OR WE'' LL SEE WHAT WE SAW WITH PINE CREST IN WHICH PEOPLE WERE REVEALING UP AND STATING WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN THAT OUR AREA ALTERED THE RATE WE'' RE IN AND WENT THROUGH OBVIOUSLY REALLY EXTENSIVE PUBLIC PROCESS BUT IT'' S EASY TO GET VIA THE PROCEDURES AND SAY WE'' VE MADE IT BUT WE DEMAND TO MAKE CERTAIN WE'' RE EDUCATING COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE COMING HEE.I THINK I WE'' RE STRIKING WONDERFUL BALANCE IN STIPULATIONS NOT RELOCATING ALSO QUICKLY UH BUT WE– YOU'' RE GOING HEAR A GREAT DEAL IF PEOPLE SEE THE MODIFICATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS DIDN'' T UNDERSTAND AND MISSED THIS INVOLVEMENT PROCEDURE. I'' M HOPING THERE WILL BE A MESSAGE EDUCATION PROCESS THAT THE STAFF COULD SPEND TIME REASONING ABOUT. I ' VE BEEN IN DURHAM MY WHOLE LIFE, WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR US.WE ' VE SUR PROOI VOOIFED REAL ESTATE AND– MADE IT THROUGH HOUSE AND ECONOMIC DILEMMA. > > IF YOU HAVE A SEATING PUBLIC RELATIONS PREFERENCE, THE BARTERING– WITH THAT WE'' RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU AND WE'' LL SEE YOU UH ON TUESDAY.