City of Santa Rosa Council Meeting November 12, 2019

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, SO YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON, WE'LL WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY SO WE'LL BE STARTING AT FOR ABOUT 4:15, SO YOU'LL BE HERE WITH JUST US SMILING AT YOU ACTUALLY. OKAY. FOLKS, WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 12, COUNCIL MEETING. SORRY FOR THE DELAY. WE HAVE ONE COUNCILMEMBER ABSENT AND ONE TRYING TO CALL IN FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING THAT IS NOT GOING WELL BUT WE'LL SEE IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET HER ON BOARD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MINUTES HERE.

MADAM CITY CLERK. DO YOU WANT TO CALL ROLL. >> LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL COUNCILMEMBERS ARE PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAYOR SCHEWEDHELM AND COUNCILMEMBER COMBS. >> JUST GOT THROUGH, BUT IT'S NOT THROUGH THE SYSTEM THAT CHARGES ME. >> WE'LL TRY TO KEEP YOU ON THE LINE THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH. FOR THE PUBLIC, WE'LL BE MOVING ITEM 14.4 FROM TONIGHT'S AGENDA TO NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA. THAT'S THE BUILDING CODE UPDATES AS SPRIEBD BY STATE LAW. WE HAVE TO HAVE FOUR COUNCILMEMBERS AS A QUORUM WHO ARE PRESENT IN THE JURISDICTION TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THE ITEMS. TWO OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM THAT ITEM. SO WE'LL BE HEARING 14.3 WHICH IS THE REACH CODES WHICH IS PART OF IT BUT NOT THE OVERALL BASE CODES AT THIS TIME. WE'LL HEAR THAT NEXT TUESDAY. NO STUDY ITEMS, NO PROCLAMATIONS MR. McGWYNN? >> STAFF BRIEFING? >> YELLS. >> FIRE RECOVERY AND REBUILDUP DATE, DAVE GWYNN AOUN INTRODUCING OUR SOLE ITEM THIS EVENING. >> HELLO? >> YES, COUNCILMEMBERS IF YOU RECALL FROM LAST WEEK, WE HAD INVITED A REPRESENTATIVE FROM STATEHOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS SUE SHE IS A SENIOR SPECIALIST IN DISASTER RECOVERY. SHE IS GOING TO GO THROUGH A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK/DISASTER FOR APPLICANTS AND SHAZ ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT WERE CIRCULATED TO YOU TODAY. WITH THAT, THANK YOU, SUE. >> THERE WE GO. >> THANK YOU, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. SO I WILL NOT GO THROUGH ALL OF THE POINTS YOU'LL SEE ON THIS SLIDES. I'LL LEAVE TE SLIDES FOR PUBLISHING ON THE WEBSITE LATER.

BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE IMPORTANT UP DPAIT POINTS. SO THE GENERAL UPDATE FOR THE CDBG DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAMS RUNNING THROUGH HCD THROUGH THE 2017 DISASTER JURISDICTION THAT HAD 2017 DISASTER. THE IMPORTANT PIECES FOR UPDATE RIGHT NOW ARE THAT WE RECEIVED OUR FULLY EXECUTED GRANT AGREEMENT FROM HUD IN AUGUST. WE HAVE STOOD UP A DISASTER RECOVERY SECTION IN SACRAMENTO WHO WILL BE ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAMS AND THE GRANTS. WE'VE GOT 7 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND WILL BE ADDING. WE HAVE EXECUTED A STANDARD AGREEMENT WITH OUR CONSULTANTS, GCR IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS AS WELL IN ORDER TO ASSIST US WITH STAFF AUGMENTATION IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROGRAMS RUN EFFORTLESSLY AND COMPLIANTLY AS POSSIBLE.

ADDITIONALLY, WE GOT A NEW GRANT SYSTEM, A GRANT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IS WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY IN-HOUSE TO GO TAKE SOME OF THE TRAININGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON THAT NEW GRANT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IT WILL PUT EVERYTHING ONLINE TO WE CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PAPER GOING BACK AND FORTH T.SHOULD MAKE APPLICATION PROCESS MUCH EASIER. WE ARE STANDING THE OWNER OCCUPIED SOFTWARE. PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR HUD WITH THIS PROGRAM IS BH A APPLICANT SUBMITS A SURVEY AND/OR AN APPLICATION, THEY HAVE TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE AT THE TIME. SO THIS IS A PORTAL BASE GRANT, THAT IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR MOST FOLKS. FOR PEOPLE WHO CANNOT ACCESS IT, WE CAN TAKE THEIR INFORMATION OVER THE PHONE AND LOG THEM INTO THE SYSTEM AND HELP THEM FILL OUT SURVEY SXZ APPLICATIONS BY HAND IF NECESSARY.

LASTLY FOR THE SRVEY, WE DID LAUNCH IT A WEEK AGO FRIDAY. AND HAVE 56 TIER, WE'LL GO INTO TIERS IN A MINUTE. BUT 56 TIER 5 APPLICANTS. SXL 5 TIER 1 APPLICANTS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT TIERS IN A SECOND. THERE IS A GAP FINANCING PROGRAM UP TO 150,000 TO ASSIST I FINAL RECONSTRUCTION OR REPAIR IF NEEDED OF DISASTER IMPACTED HOMES TO QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM, THE REPORT MUST BE OWNER OCCUPIED AT THE TIME OF THE DID I SAFT AND HER IT MUST HAVE BEEN THE PRIMARY RESIDENT OF THAT OWNER. THE APPLICANT MUST BE CURRENT ON PROPERTY TAXES. AND OBVIOUSLY THE PROPERTY MUST HAVE SUSTAINED DAMAGES AS A RESULT OF THE DID I SAFTR, THE NAME DISASTER. WE'LL SWITCH TO, WE'LL GL TO IN THE FAQs WE'LL TALK ABOUT PRIORITIZATION. HOWEVER WITHIN THAT PRIORITIZATION, ANY FAMILY THAT IDENTIFIES AS BEING A MEMBER THAT IS DISABLED WLL RISE UP TO THE TP OF WHATEVER TIER THEY QUALIFY FOR.

IT'S TO ASSIST THE FIRST AND FOR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WHICH MEANS THE LOW MODERATE INCOME, HOUSEHOLDS, WE'RE TALKING PEOPLE, POPULATION RIGHT SIDE DISABILITIES, POPULATIONS THAT ARE ELDERLY. IT'S A RELIEF PROGRAM AT ILTS BASE FOR THE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. SO WE RELEASED THE SURVEY AS A SAID, A WEEK AGO, IT'S OPEN TO 2017 AND 2018 DISASTERS. WE'RE DOING A DATA COLLECTION EXERCISE ON THE 2018 DISASTER AS WE GET OUT IN FRONT O DOING THEIR ACTION PLAN HERE SHORTLY. THE 2017 DISASTER SURVEY ENABLES US TO REALLY FINALIZE PROGRAM, GUIDELINES AND PROGRAM DESIGN BASED ON REALTIME DATA ON THE GROUND AS OF TODAY. AND MAKING SURE THAT IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT RISE UP TO THE FOR FRONT, SUCH AS A LOT OF LANDLORDS WITH SMALL RENTALS THAT NEED ASSISTANCE AND WOULD ULTIMATELY BE WILLING TO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE COVENANT PUT ON THE PROPERTY FOR A WHILE. IF THAT'S A VIABLE PROGRAM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO LOOK FOR. ADDITIONALLY IF IT TURNS OUT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL BENEFIT. BUT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THE SURVEYS SHOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LMI, WE HAVE TO SPEND 17% ON ALL THE VULNERABLE POPULATION BENEFICIARIES.

THEN THERE IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT A WAIVER. DO WE FOR THIS, GRANT FOR THE STATE NEED A WAIVER IN ORDER TO OVER THAT AMOUNT BUT WE HAVE TO PROOF THAT WE HAVE ASSISTED ALL THE POSSIBILITIESING FOR LOW AND MODERN INCOME BENEFICIARIES IF POSSIBLE. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT, WHO SHOULD COMPLETE COMPLETE THE SURVEY, IS ANYBODY WHO SUSTAINED IMPACTS BIT 2017-2018 FIRES THA. WOULD BE THE OCTOBER FIRES IN 2017 AS WE KNOW. THE DECEMBER WILDFIRES IN MUD FLOWS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND THEN IN FOR 2018, IT WOULD BE THE JULY AND SEPTEMBER FIRES AND HIGH WINDS IN LAKE SHASTA, THAT WAS THE DEVASTATING KARR FIRE. AS FAR AS AS WELL THE CAMP FIRES AND TWO FIRES IN LOS ANGELES AND VENTURA. IT'S NOT LOST FOR ANYONE HERE THAT THOSE WHO SUSTAINED DAMAGE IN 2017, ALSO SUSTAINED DAMAGE IN 218, SAME COUNTY I SEEMS TO BE A PATTERN.

YOU'LL SEE ON MULTI FAMILY, IT'S THE SECOND LINE DOWN. THE MULTI FAMILY AMOUNT IS ALMOST 67 MILLION DOLLARS, THAT'S 53 ALMOST 54% OF THE GRANT AND THAT'S 100% OF THE LOW MOD BENEFIT. SO THAT'S 100% OF THAT FUNDING. SO IT WOULD BE 53% TOWARDS THE TOTAL 70% THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND FOR MODERATE TO LOW INCOME BENEFIT. THE SECOND BULLET SHOWS YU THAT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE TO SPEND AT LEAST 20.1 MILLION DOLLARS OR ANOTHER 16.21 PERCENT OF THE FUNDING IN ORDER TO HIT THE 70%.

LASTLY THE OVERALL BENEFIT OF THE SURVEY IS AGAIN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE REALTIME DATA FROM GROUND TROOPING WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE HAPPENING, UNDERSTANDING AND BEING RESPONSIVE TO WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON ON THE GROUND. AND THEN, ULTIMATELY AS I SAID SHOULD THE DATA SHOW THAT 70% IS NOT ACHIEVABLE, THEN WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING TABLE WITH HUB WE HAVE THE DATA TO DRIVE FOR THE CONVERSATION WITH HUD. AND WE GET TO WORK ON THAT REQUEST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SUNS THE SURVEY IS COMPLETED. THE FIRST ROUND OF SURVEY. THIS SURVEY WILL BE OPEN UNTIL EARLY JANUARY. WE ARE FINALIZING PROGRAM DESIGN. WE DON'T HAVE THE OWNER OCCUPIED PROGRAM DESIGNED YT BECAUSE WE NEED TO SEE WAT THE NEEDS ARE, WHAT THE INCOME LEVELS ARE.

WHETHER THERE IS MOSTLY PEOPLE TO WHO ARE FULLY REBUILD OR JUST NEED THE GAP. THE SURVEY WILL GIVE US THAT INFORMATION. SO THIS IS JUST A CONTACT SLIDE FOR US. IF ANYONE NEEDS TO REACH US. THIS IS HOW YOU CAN REACH US. THAT IS MY DIRECT PHONE NUMBER AND MY DIRECT EMAIL. AND ALSO THE RECOVERY EMAIL COMES TO ME TOO. I'VE BEEN CONVERSING WITH MANY OF THE DISASTER SURVIVORS SINCE THE SURVIVOR AND NOW GOING LIVE WITH THE SURVEY. WE'RE HOPING PEOPLE IF I AM OUT SURVEYS. LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN ON THE PHONE AND ON EMAIL HELPING EVERYBODY TO FULFILL THEIR SURVEY NEEDS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT, THEN I WOULD SWITCH TO THE HANDOUT THAT COUNCILMEMBERS ALL HAVE.

THIS IS THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. THIS INCORPORATES QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING. >> ARE THOSE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC UP ABOVE? >> THERE ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC UP ABOVE AND THEY'LL BE POSTED ONLINE. THEY'RE HOT OFF THE PRESS TODAY. ARE THE THERE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO THROUGH THEM? I'M HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER WORKS BEST. >> COUNCILMEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I'M ON MUTE, SO IT TAKES ME A SECOND TO GET BACK. NO I'M GOOD, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. >> ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS.

>> THANK YOU MR. VICE MAYOR. I THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. ONE QUESTION THAT I H I ACTUALLY HAVE A FEW. SOUNDS LIKE YOU WILL BE SETTING UP THE LIMITS. CAN YOU SHARE THAT. >> THERE IS NO ESTABLISHED LIMIT. HUD HAS DEFINED LOW MOD INCOME DEFINITION BY CENSUS TRACK, THOSE ARE THE DEFINITIONS THAT WE HAVE TO USE. THEY PUBLISH THOSE. AND THE SURVEY ASKS, WE DON'T GET DOWN TO WHAT PEOPLE MAKE. IT'S REALLY JUST A RANGE SO. ULTIMATELY, WE CAN ASSIST ABOVE 80% AND BELOW. HUD UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN REALLY AFFORD TO OWN A HOME. AT 80%. WE'LL BE AINL TO ASSIST SOME BUT WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN HIT THAT OVERALL BENEFIT NUMBER OR WHETHER WE NEED TO REALLY BRING A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE TO HUD. >> WHAT ARE THE TYPES AND ASSISTANCE AND BENEFITS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD EXPECT? >> SO ULTIMATELY, WHAT WE'RE ASSISTING WITH IS CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

YOU'LL SEE IN THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, IT THE WHAT WE CAN PAY FOR REALLY ARE, ARE STANDARD BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, STANDARD MATERIALS OTHER THAN ON THE INTERIOR THAN ON THE EXTERIOR IT WOULD B ANYTHING THAT IS UP TO WHERE WE ARE COMPLIANCE. TO THE LAND OVER FACE WHICH IS RESISTANT CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS FOR THE EXTERIORS. ANYTHING THAT IS REQUIRED BY CODE AND GREEN BUILDING STANDARD, THEN THEY CAN, THE PROGRAM CAN PAY FOR. >> OKAY, AND IF YOU DON'T HIT THE 70% THRESHOLD, ALTHOUGH THAT YOU WILL HIT IN THAT COMMUNITY.

ALL 80%, YOU'RE RIGHT, FROM ALL INTENSIVE PURPOSES, THAT'S LOWER INCOME AROUND HERE. SADLY. BUT IF YOU DON'T HIT THE 70%, DO YOU HAVE ANY ABILITY TO INCREASE THAT THRESHOLD. >> SO WITH THE 70%, WE WOULD WANT TO LOWER IT. WE WANT TO HELP MORE POPLE WITH MORE INCOME AS OPPOSED TO INCREASING THE LOW MOD NUMBER. WE HAVE TO ENSURE, HAD YOUED IS NOT GOING TO ENTERTAIN IT UNLESS WE KNOW THAT AND WE'VE DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT THE POPULATIONS HAVE BEEN SERVED AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DOCUMENT HOW THEY'VE BEEN SERVED FOR THE DISASTER SURVIVORS. SO THAT WILL BE A BIG PIECE OF THAT. BUT ULTIMATELY, RIGHT NOW, WE CAN SERVE HIGHER INCOMES AS WELL. THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE ONLY SERVE 80%, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO GET SERVED FIRST AND THEN, AND THEN THAT WE ARE HIT, WE ARE MINDFUL OF THAT REQUIREMENT AND WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN HIT IT. IT'S SORT OF A JUGGLING ACT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU RIGHT NOW. >> SURE.

AND ONE QUESTION I HAVE, HAS HCD OR HUD HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COST FOR BUILDING RIGHT NOW, BEING WHAT IT IS PER SQUARE FOOT PROVIDING THE MONEY IN THE FORM OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO BUY A HOME WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SOMEWHERE ELSE? >> SO, I THINK THE CALHOUN PROGRAM IS WAVING THE FIRST TIME. BUT THEY WILL HELP WITH FIRST PURCHASES. IF THE SURVEY COMES BACK AND SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO REBUILD, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. THERE IS SOMETHING PROHIBITING US FROM THIS, FROM PURCHASES. THE WHAT WE HEARD IN THE ORIGINAL PUBLIC MEETINGS IS THAT PEOPLE DID WANT TO REBUILD THAT'S WHY WE'VE GONE DOWN THIS ROAD. AND TO BE HONEST, WE ALL KNOW THIS, THE 124 MILLION IS NOT ENOUGH. IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR SANTA ROSA, IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR THE ENTIRE STATE FOR WHICH IT'S GOT TO BE DELIVERED. SO I TINK ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS CAN BE ON THE TABLE AS WE GO FORWARD AND FIND OUT WHAT THE SURVEY SAYS.

>> GREAT. MY HOPE IS THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO REBUILD WILL BE ABLE TO. BUT LOOKING AT THE COST EFFICIENCIES FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT WANT TO CONTINUE THE TIMELINE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION BUT TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. >> UNDERSTOOD. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBERS IS WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT WE'VE RAISED THIS ISSUE WITH THE STATE AND WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. STAFF IS A LITTLE FRUSTRATED ON THE TIMING HERE. WE FEEL THAT THIS SHOULD BE OUT THERE WAY AHEAD OF THE TIMETABLE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ON. BUT I WANT ASSURE YOU AS MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC, THAT THESE ARE ASKED THAT WE'VE REPEATEDLY ASKED OF OUR STATE AGENCY PARTNERS AND FEDERAL PARTNERS.

>> THANK YOU, SEAN AND THANK YOU WISE MAYOR. >> COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING. >> THANK YOU MR. VICE MAYOR. SO I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY THAN WHAT OUR RESIDENTS MAY HAVE APPLIED FOR BEFORE? WHEN YOU SAY CENSUS TRACK DOES THAT NATIONAL AMI OR MORE LOCAL TO OUR AREA HERE. >> SO LAST TIME, I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS USED, IF WE USED OUR CENSUS TRACK, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE OR FOR MR. GWYNN WENT THROUGH THE SBA PROGRAM? >> YES, WE DID. SO BUSINESS WAY OF BACKGROUND AND VERY BRIEFLY. A PROGRAM THAT WE APPLIED FOR CALLED CALHOUN WILL ALLOW PROPERTY OWN INVENTORIES REBUILD AFTER THE DISASTER. WE SHOWED THAT WE ONLY HAD ONE QUALIFIED APPLICANT AT 80%. SO WE WERE SUCCESSFUL BUT STILL WAITING FOR OUR CONTRACT TO BE EXECUTED.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IF WE'RE HAVING OWNER OCCUPANT SURVEY GOING ON TO IMPACTED BY THE 2017 DISASTER, WE WANT TO PROMOTE OUR PROGRAM. ?O. WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WAS THE 80% ALSO BASED ON CENSUS TRACKER, SAME 80% AMI. >> MEDIUM INCOME IS REPRESENT OF HUD SO IT'S REPRESENTATIVE. >> SO I'M TRYING TO GET TO, IS HOW LONG THE SURVEY WILL TAKE. OUR RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN TWO YEARS OUT. WE FOUND ONE FAMILY THAT MIGHT QUALIFY BUT IN THE END REALLY COULDN'T.

I WANT PEOPLE TO APPLIES BUT I DON'T WANT TO ASK PEOPLE TO ENGAGE IN ANOTHER UPHILL BATTLE THAT FEELS LIKE JUST ONE MORE THING THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT HELP AND DOES NOT DO ANYTHING. WHAT CAN YOU SAY TO HELP ME TO HELP ME CONVINCE M CONSTITUENCE TO APPLY FOR THIS. >> THAT ULTIMATELY THAT SURVEY IS THE FIRST STEP. THAT WE WILL NOT KNOW WHAT WHAT THE DATA SHOWS. REALLY OWN TO OWN A HOME AND MOST COUNTIES. IT IS TRULY SOMETHING ON THE RADAR. WE CAN HELP PEOPLE ABOVE AMI, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT THAT, THAT WE HIT THAT 70%. THE ONE THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOWEVER, IN THE FAQs WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN PAY FOR, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND THAT STANDARD GRADE FINISHES MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT MST HIGHER INCOME HOMEOWNERS ARE LOOKING FOR AND THAT'S ALL THAT THIS CAN PAY FOR. IT CANNOT PAY ANYTHING LUXURY IT MAY NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO PAY FOR GRANITE. IT'S GEARED DWARDS MODERATE HOUSING AND THE REQUIREMENTS SAY THAT WHERE WE CANNOT COME IN AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS IN THE EXTERIOR RESISTANCE.

>> AND JUST AS A GENERAL SENSE, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR AN APPLICANT TO FILL OUT THE SURVEY? >> THE APPLICANT RIGHT SIDE TAKING ABOUT 10-15 MINUTES. >> OKAY, THAT'S NOT TOO LONG. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD TO HEAR. >> BASICALLY, THE QUESTIONS AND APPLICATION, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY DOCUMENTATION AT THIS POINT. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND HOPE YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH HUD ARE MORE FRUITFUL THAN MINE HAVE BEEN. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, I WANT TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. AT WHAT POINT CAN OUR CONSTITUENCE RELY ON THIS ASSISTANCE? >> SO WE EXPECT TO TAKE FULL APPLICATIONS INTO THE SYSTEM IN EARLY JANUARY.

THAT'S THE ANTICIPATED TIME. YOU'LL SEE, IT SAYS EARLY 2020 BUT I'M PUSHING PEOPLE REALLY HARD TO TRY TO GET THIS OUT IN JANUARY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S TAKING TOO LONG. WE DIDN'T GET OUR GRANT AGREEMENT UNTIL AUGUST. WE ARE JAMMING PEOPLE TO GET WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THE PROPERTY BEGINS OF PROPERTY INSPECTION. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT GET INVOLVED. BUT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A TURN KEY SITUATION WHERE, IF SOMEBODY HAS NOT START TODAY REBUILD OR THEY'RE DONE WITH THEIR CONTRACTOR AND THEY WANT TO USE OUR CONTRACTOR, IT'S PROBABLE THAT THEY CAN USE OURS AND WE'LL STAND THAT UP.

WE WILL HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE ON, THAT ARE PROCURED ALREADY AND READY TO TAKE ON THESE PROJECTS. THERE IS NO WAITING FOR CONTRACTORS. THERE IS NO HAVING THE HOMEOWNER AND HAVE THEM FIGURE THIS OUT. IT WILL MOVE FAR MORE SMOOTHLY THROUGH OUR SYSTEM. WE HAVE CASE MNAGERS THAT WHEN THE PROGRAM COMES ONED BOARD, THEY WILL BRING PROGRAM MANAGERS WITH THEM. SO THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION. THERE IS A CASE MANAGER. THERE IS A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT THAT THE HOMEOWNER WILL HAVE THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS TO HELP TEM WALK THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WL.

IT'S TITLE, WHETHER IT'S SIMPLY ENSURING THAT THE CHECK GOT DELIVERED ON TIME AND BEING PROCESSED CORRECTLY. THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. BUT THERE WILL BE AMPLE HELP FOR EACH OF THE HOMEOWNERS THAT WANT TO WALK THROUGH THIS PROCESS. >> SO WHEN CAN OUR RESIDENTS EXPECT THE ASSISTANCE TO REACH THEM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. >> THAT WILL DEPEND ON HOW LONG THE CONSTRUCTION TAKES. BUT WITHIN A WEEK, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE DOING THE ASSESSMENT AND PUTTING THE SCOPE OF WORK TOGETHER.

BUT FOM THE TIME THAT THEY SEE, THAT WE RECEIVE THE APPLICATION AD THE APPLICATION IS POCESSED, WITHIN A WEEK OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICATION IS ELIGIBLE AND READY TO GO, WOULD I SAY WITHIN A WEEK. >> THE KEY VARIABLE, HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO GET VERIFIED TO RECEIVE THAT ASSISTANCE. FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THINGS ON HOLD UNTIL THEY HAVE THEIR DUCKS ON THE ROW. >> THE ASSISTANCE IS AVAILABLE AS SOON AS THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE.

THERE IS SOME THINGS THAT WE'LL ASSIST THEM THROUGH. BUT I CANNOT IMAGINE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH CASE MANAGERS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SURVEYS AND RESPONDENTSES THAT WE GET, I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN A WEEK OR TWO, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE MAKING CONTACT WITH THE HOMEOWNERS. ESTIMATES WILL B PUT INTO AN ELECTRIC SYSTEM. SO IT'S SIMILAR PROBABLY TO AN EXACT TO MATE. BUT IT WILL TALK DIRECTLY TO OWNER OCCUPIED PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE. THE MORE PAPER YOU V THE SLOWER IT GOES. AS AN ELECTRONIC FORMAT THAT WE CAN ASSIST PEOPLE WITH. BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO COMPUTERS AND THE INTERNET. SO WE CAN DO THIS OVER THE PHONE. THERE ARE CASE MANAGERS THAT CAN DO IT OVER THE PHONE. I CANNOT GUARANTEE A TIME BUT THE TURN TIME IN MY MIND IS NO MORE THAN A WEEK OR TWO, BEFORE WE GET ROLLING. AND IT WILL BE ONLY BE TWO WEEKS BEFORE WE GET A RUSH OF APPLICANT AT THE SAME TIME.

>> I THINK YOU'RE HEARING A SENSE OF URGENCY, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE MOST VULNERABLE FOLKS SAYING THAT ALE ARE EXPIRED AND HAVING A HARD TIME STAYING IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHY WAS THE PLAN DESIGNED ON INCOME AND NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE COST AROUND THE HOME, AGAINST WHAT THE INSURANCE WILL PAY. >> IT'S FEDERAL MONEY. AND AGAIN, THE BASIS FOR THIS PROGRAM AND THE MONEY IS TO ASSIST FOR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE WITH DISASTER. IT'S DISASTER RELIEF AS OPPOSE TODAY RECOVERY. AND AS HUD HAS SAID, IT'S A DOWN PAYMENT TO RECOVERY TO TRY TO RESTABILIZE THEM AFTER DISASTER. AND THE NEXT LOGICAL QUESTION IS WHY DOES IT TAKE TWO YEARS TO GET THE MONEY OUT, AND I DO NOT DISAGREE.

>> I GUESS THE UNFORTUNATE FEAR IS AT THIS POINT IT'S TOO LATE TO GET THESE DOLLARS OUT TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE INTENDED FOR BUT I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF GETTING THAT OUT. MR. McGWYNN. >> SO ITHINK THE CITY STAFF UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S FRUSTRATION WITH THE PROCESS. I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT WE'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR A FASTER DELIVERY OF THESE, OF THIS SURVEY IN THE CORRESPONDING DATA. BUT I HAVE TO URGE THE COMMUNITY TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY. THERE HAVE BEEN AND FREQUENTLY ARE, ALTHOUGH THIS STATE IS RESISTANT TO IT.

THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO B THE END OF THE CONVERSATION BUT WITHOUT THE DATA, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD PRESS FOR THE CITY TO MAKE A ARGUMENT TO REVISE THE INTENDED INVESTMENT, WE WOULD URGE AS STAFF AND URGE YOU TO URGE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY. IT IS ONLY AS AS SHE SAID, 10 TO 15 MINUTES LONG. AND WE WILL BE EXPECTING THE STATE TO SHARE THE AGGREGATED DATA AND UNDERSTAND HOW THAT IS AND UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROGRAM IS DEVELOPING. SO WE CAN AS A COMMUNITY ARGUE FOR POTENTIALLY ADJUSTING HOW THE ACTION PLAN IS DELIVERING RESOURCE TO SEE COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. LAST QUESTION, I SAUCE THAT UZ HIRED 7 STAFF MEMBERS. WAS THERE A LINE ITEM FOR THAT TYPE OF STAFFING? OR DOES THAT COME FROM THE STATE SPECIFICALLY? SOME FLT CONTRACTING IS STATE FUNDING. THE OTHER STAFF IS GOING TO BE A MIX OF ACTIVITIES, DELIVERY AND SOME ADMIN FOR THOSE WORKING ACROSS ALL THE PROGRAMS. THAT IS GOING TO BE ADMINISTRATION. PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY ELSE WORKING DIRECTLY ON LIKE OUR HOMEOWNER MANAGER, OUR HOUSING MANAGER, OUR HOUSING STAFF PERSON.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH PROJECT DELIVERY BECAUSE THEY'RE DELIVERING THE PROJECTS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS. WHO WANT TO SEE GO FIRST. >> I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT. >> I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT AS WELL. >> OKAY. STATEMENTS OF ABSTENTION FROM COUNCILMEMBERS? COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS? >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I'LL BE OBTAINING FROM 14.1 DUE TO ITS RATIFICATION AND HOW THAT IMPACTS A PROJECT THAT I'M WORKING ON MONTECINO ESPECIALLY THE DPOELD COIN AND THAT'S ME. >> ANY OTHERS. >> I'LL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THE MOTION OF THE MINUTES. >> OKAY. >> COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING. >> I'LL BE RECUSING ON THE MOTION FROM THE MINUTES. >> ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO YOU TO COUNCILMEMBERS, REPORTS. WHO WANTS TO GIBB? BEGIN? >> COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS. >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I WANT TO BRING TO THIS COUNCIL AND STAFF'S ATTENTION THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE WITHIN THE ASSOCIATION IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF PILOT MIKE CO GRID IN THAT COMMUNITY AND THEY SAY IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BECOME A MODEL.

THEY'RE BEGINNING TO DEVELOP A AUTHORITY. WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT MAY BE WANT TO TRACK THIS AND WORKING WITH THE OAK MONT VILLAGE. BUZZ NUMBER TO TO BRINGS IT TO THEIR ATTENTION. THEY'LL NEED PARTNERS AND WITH OUR ENERGY AUTHORITY SO. WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR PERMITTING, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN BE A GOOD PARTNER AND HELP THEM GET WHAT THEY NEED TO GET THAT MICRO GRID OFF THE GROUND.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING? >> I JUST WANTED NOTE THAT TYPICALLY AFTER THE POLL DAY, WE TAKE COUNCIL DAY OFF. AND I WANTED TO LET OR VETERANS KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE THEIR SERVICE. WE HAD A STACKED CALENDAR AND DO NOT ACT THIS MEETING ACT TO DIFFER FROM HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND GRATEFUL AS A COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER OLIVARES. >> THANK YOU, A QUICK REPORT ON LAST WEEK'S MEETING. A A WELL ATTENDED MEETING. A LOT EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS WITH ALL THE INCIDENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE DO HOPE TO BRING A RECOMMENDATION RELATED TO THE RESTROOM, I BELIEVE, IN DECEMBER, WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK FOR RECOMMENDATION. AND YOU'LL BE GETTING A STUDY SESSION SOON. AND THEN ON A SECOND ITEM, FOR SOME CLARIFICATION OR HELP BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH THIS.

EVENTUALLY TO COUNCIL QUORUM THAT'S WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH LATELY. HEARING A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FULL COUNCIL. IS KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN STORIES ABOUT COUNCILMEMBER COMBS MOVING, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT SHE HAS VACATED HER HOME AND MOVED OUT OF THE COUNTRY. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS BEING COMMUNICATED WITH YOU, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE OUT THERE. AND I DON'T HAVE ANSWERS. COULD YOU TWO WORK WITH HER AND FIND OUT WHAT HER INTENT IS, AS YOU SAW TONIGHT, WE HAD TO POSTPONE AN ITEM AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CRITICAL ISSUES AND WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING AND IN THE FUTURE THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE FULL ATTENTION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. SO I HAD A CHANCE TO GO OUT THIS WEEKEND FOR THE WINTER BLAST FESTIVAL PUT OUT BY OUT THERE SANTA ROSA AND SOFA PARADE. SO I WANT TO SAY A HUGE THANK YOU TO EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THAT ONE. NEXT YEAR, I'LL TRY TO BUILD A FLOAT. 50 YEARS AGO, THE VIETNAM WAR WAS AT A TIGHT WITH ALMOST 50,000 COMMITTED. SXLT 59 FOLKS DID NOT MAKE IT HOME FROM THAT. SO THERE WAS A HEART WARMING DISCUSSION ABOUT POW AND MI A. SO JUST WANTED DISCLOSE THAT AS WELL. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, YOU HAVE NOVEMBER 1, 2019, AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

I HEARD THE COUNCILMEMBER COMBS AND FLEMING HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS ITEM. FOR OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS, WERE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, WE'LL SHOW THOSE AS ADOPTED 4-0. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MR. McGWYNN. >> ITEM 7.1. RECLASSIFICATION OF 34 PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 900 AND 910, 9 30, 940, 950, 960, 1026, 1038, 1110, 1212, 1240, 1310, 1316, 1320, 1400, 1426, 1452, 1540, 1576, 625, WEAR AVENUE, PARCEL NUMBER 038–155, NO STREET ADDRESS ASSIGNED. 166, AND 636 AND 16-14 AND 620. FILE NUMBER 3RJ. COUNCIL ARE THERE? ANY CARDS? >> MR.

VICE MAYOR, DUE TO MY ABSENCE, I MAY, SHOULD I BE REDUCING ABSTAINING FROM THIS SECOND READING? MADAM CITY ATTORNEY? >> UNLESS YOU LISTENED TO THE EARLIER PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU RECUSE. >> I'LL BE ABSTAINING THEN FROM THIS ITEM. >> I WILL NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM THE ITEM AS WELL. >> OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS I'M GOING TO COME TO YOU FOR A MOTION. >> I MOVE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND WAIVE FURTHER READING OF THE TEXT. >> SECOND AND BECAUSE WE HAVE THE VOICE AND THE SKY TONIGHT, ALL VOTES WILL BE BY VOICE VOTE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR AS WELL. MADAM CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR ROGERS. >> AYE. >> JULIE COMBS? YOU WILL BE ABSTAINING. >> CORRECT. >> COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER OLIVARES. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAWYER ABSTAINING. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS. >> AYE. >> ALL RIGHT THAT, WILL PASS WITH 4 AYES AND 2 ABSTENTIONS AS WELL AS 1 ABSENCE. AS A REMINDER, WE'LL BE MOVING ITEM 14.4 FROM TONIGHT'S AGENDA TO NEXT TUESDAY'S AGENDA. WE HAVE TWO COUNCILMEMBERS THAT NEED TO RECUSE AND WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A QUORUM TO HEAR IT. SO WE'LL BE MOVING 14.4, IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THAT, I APOLOGIZE. FIRST FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS. PETER FOLLOWED BUSINESS DUANE DEWITT. >> GREAT NEWS, THIS THIRD PUBLIC MEETING, FOR THE HOMELESS REFUGE PROGRAM KNOWING THAT THE SONOMA COUNTY LIBRARY HAS A SURPLUS OF 12 MILLION DOLLARS. I'M SURE THEY CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH MANY NUMBER OF LOCATIONS LIKE PERHAPS SAINT VINCENT FOR BOOK STUDY OR COFFEE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A NICE PLACE TO BE INSTEAD OF THE COLD FOR THE HOMELESS. THE CALIFORNIA POWER COMES TO FLOWER. THE AUTHORITY BE MINE AS ALL TRUE, SPIRIT WATER YOR TO SEE MAKE THIS COME TRUE. COMMENDING ALL VETERANS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTERS, ALL LABOR ALL STUDENTS ALL FARMERS. AND CHARMERS. COMMANDED YOU BE FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE.

ABIDE, N MORTGAGES, NO RENTS, NO LABOR NO SCHOOLS NO LONGER THE USER BANKER FULL. I AM PETER, THE I AM THE BROTHER FROM THE EAST. YOU WILL JOIN IN TH* STRIKE. THIS ALMIGHTY ACTION THROUGH ME COMMANDED FOR EVERY MOTHER EARTH BE REMANDED. FOR BEHIND EVERY WAR, NOW SEIZED AS WE BECOME A MAJESTIC. THE OE THEY CALL JESUS IN THIS COUNT WEE AUZ MURDERED. AND WE'VE ALL BEEN LIED TO. AND THAT'S UNDERMINE US. OVERCOME THE GREATEST BOYCOTT WITH THE MOTHER OF ALL, THAT BE THE CALL. FREEZE THE ENTIRE COAST UNTIL THEY'RE TOAST. ALL UNIONS UNITE UNDER THE U.S CONSTITUTION. SHERIFF'S PEACE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. THE SHERIFF IS THE TOP LAW ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAND. THERE BY EXTRICATING USUAL BANKERS FOR LAWYERS HAVE ALWAYS CAUSED PROBLEMS FOR THE UNION AS THEY SERVE THEIR MASTERS THE SHAREHOLDERS AND OWNERS. THESE THINGS COME NOW TO PASS AS THEY BE COMMANDED T TRULY, OUR HIGHEST TUNE. SADE, SADE, A BEAUTIFUL ACTION A BEAUTIFUL DAY. ABRACADABRA, I SAY IT UZ HEAR T SO BE IT IT'S ALREADY DONE. UNDER THIS FULL MOON A BEAUTIFUL TUNE.

WE BECOME ONE. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE MISSED YOU. DUANE DUITY AND FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> I'M DUANE DEWITT I'M FROM ROSE LAND AND I WANTED TUZ THE TWO OF YOU THAT MENTIONED VETERANS DAZE WHICH WAS YESTERDAY. AND I ACTUALLY THINK AS NOVEMBER AS A THANKSGIVING MONTH, A MONTH IN WHERE TO GIVE. YESTERDAY WAS A VETERANS DAY CELEBRATION IN SANTA ROSA. IT WAS OVER AT TE SONOMA BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. IT WAS ABOUT 40 VETERANS THERE. SFEF THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA POST 2:23 WAS HOPING TO GET THE SUPPORT FROM THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

AND NEVER GOTTEN A RESPONSE. AND SO, YESTERDAY YESTERDAY'S CELEBRATION IF YOU WILL OF OUR PATRIOTISM AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES TO KEEP THIS FORUM ALIVE IF YOU WILL, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT IT SEEMS, THAT THEY WILL WAIVE A FLAG AND SPEAK FONDLY OF VETERANS. BUZZ THEN BUT THEN WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING THE RUBBER MEET THE ROAD, IT'S NOEFR. FOR US VETERANS IN SONOMA COUNTY, IT SEEMS LIKE A TASK TO JUST GET YOU TO DO SOMETHING FOR VETERANS THAT ACTUAL ACTIVITY, IT'S AN UNDERTAKING THAT I CAN SEE RATHER THAN WAIVE A FLAG AND SAY THANKS WE'RE THERE FOR YOU.

SPECIFICALLY IN THE PAST, W CAME FORWARD AND POINTED OUT THAT THE TAXPAYERS WERE THE PROUD OWNER OF SOME HOUSES IN ROSE LAND WHERE THREE ROSE LAND MEMBERS DIED IN THE VIETNAM WAR THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. AND WE THOUGHT WELL, WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE IF HE CITY AND GET A WAY TO CMMEMORATE THINGS AND WE CAN GET THE HOUSES AND WE CAN PERHAPS MOVE THEM AWAY INSTEAD OF DESTROY THEM.

AND INSTEAD, TAXPAYERS MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN. THEY WERE DEMOLISHED. SO NOW THAT THERE IS NOTHING THERE, THERE SHOULD BE ANY HOLDUP. I DON'T SEE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFICULTY IN LETTING VETERANS GO FORWARD, VOLUNTEERING OUR TIME AND OUR EFFORTS TO GET THAT VETERANS TRAIL IN THAT WAS FIRST PROPOSED DECADES OKAY. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT BUZZ, AT LEAST GIVE US THE TIME. AND I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO AMERICA. MERCHANTS RESTAURANTS AND RETAILERS. IT'S KIND OF BECOME A DPOEFT TOWN MANY TIMES.

THERE IS A COUPLE OF EXCITING PLACE THAT'S HAVE A LITTLE ACTION BUT AS I DRIVE DOWNTOWN, I'S GOTTEN PRETTY SAD DOWNTOWN. SOY POSTED A LITTLE, ITEM ON THERE THAT SAYS PLEASE SUPPORT OUR DOWNTOWN, PLEASE GO DOWN THERE. WE NEED YOUR DOLLARS DOWNTOWN. I GOT 160 COMMENTS AND REACTIONS. 95% OF THE COMMENTS WERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE PARKING METER SYSTEM. SXL THE TIME AND VARIETY AND POOR LIGHTING SO THEY COULD NOT SEE THE PARKING METERS. THERE WAS EVERY PROBLEM ASSOCIATED WITH T.SOME RSTAURANTIERS SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT FIVE-STAR REVIEW WOULD COME WITH A TICKET AND THEY HEARD FROM SO MANY PATRONS FROM THE RESTAURANT BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT SEE THAT THE PARKING TING SAID UNTIL 8:00 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

SO PEOPLE UNFAMILIAR WERE GIVEN THEIR TICKETS ALONG WITH THE RIDE WITH THEIR DINNER. SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE. HOMELESSNESS WAS THE SECOND, PRECURSOR OF WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO COME. THAT WAS AN OBSTACLE FOR PEOPLE. FELT UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE PREFERENCE, ALL OF THAT. THEY WRE UNHAPPY WITH THE TIME SQUARE. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY DETESTED IT SO MUCH. I ALWAYS TOUGHT THAT IT LOOK LIKE A HELI PAD. I'LL RUN, I PROMISE PEOPLE I WOULD READ THEIR COMMENTS. LET'S SEE. I DON'T FIND ANY FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE THERE AT ALL. THE MERCHANTS ARE ALL FRIENDLY AND NEED OUR BUSINESS BUT I DON'T ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE AT ALL. I HEARD MERCHANTS SAY THAT THE NEW RESTORED EYE SORE OF THE SQUARE IS DOES NOT HAPPEN. SUCH AN EYE SORE DOES NOT HELP. IT'S JUST FOR PROFITS FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. I'M FROM SAN FRANCISCO SO PARKING METERS IS NOT NEED TO BE. BUT THE DESIRE TO BE THERE OUT WEIGHS THE COST IN SAN FRANCISCO.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN SANTA ROSA. I ENJOY DOWNTOWN BUT I DON'T NEED TO GO THERE. AND NEXT, THEY PARK ON SIDE STREETS EVEN THOUGH THEY PARTICIPATE DOWNTOWN. USED TO BE A GREAT PLACE FOR STROLL AND SIDEWALK AND THEN THE CITY GOT INVOLVED. [BUZZARD] >> THANK YOU LISA. >> IT'S ON? THANK YOU VICE MAYOR ROGERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. TODAY I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE OUT OF THE BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE IN JARODOBO TRAIL. WE HAD A HOMELESS MEETING AND ASSISTING THEM ON ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT THEY IDENTIFY. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY IDENTIFIED WAS THE DUMPING OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY CN USE ON THE TRAIL. AND I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING, YOU KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE DUMPED THERE WOULD IN ANY ONE'S MIND BE GOOD ON THE TRAIL. I THINK IT'S JUST TO PACE WHERE PEOPLE WHO WANTS TO DUMP TRACK CAN DUMP. AND PEOPLE ON THE TRAIL HAVE SAID THAT TO US. AND THEY ALSO SAID IN THE EARLY DAYS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EARLY DAYS IN THE TRAIL R THAT THE EARLY DAYS THAT POLICE WOULD CRACKDOWN ON PEOPLE WHO DUMPED STUFF AND THEN IT STOPPED AND WENT AWAY.

NOBODY FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW IS TRYING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM DUMPING RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOOR, NEXT DOOR STUFF THEY HAVE NO ABILITY TO GET RID OF. DON'T WANT AND FEEL THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY JUST DUMPING ON THEM. SO I'M HERE TO RECOMMEND AND ASK THE CITY, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE IT USED TO DO WHEN THEY WERE ALL UNDER THE PASS. WE HAD A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. THE CITY STAFF AND UTILITIES AND OTHERS CAME OUT ON A TWO-WEEK BASIS. WE WORKED WITH THEM AND CLEANED UP SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WAS THERE. IT'S NOT HAPPENING AT JOE RODODO AND WE KNOW Y.EVERYBODY SEEMS TO HAVE THIS ATTITUDE. THAT SAYS IF WE DO ANYTHING AT ALL, WE'RE GOING TO SEND A BIG SIGNAL THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE. THAT WILL IS SO INHUMANE. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED YOUR HELP AND WE NEED YOUR HELP TOO.

TRY TO DO SOMETHING WHAT TO DO. I'VE ALMOST GIVEN UP TO ASK FOR PORT-A-POTTIES AND WASH STATIONS. BUT GARBAGE, YOU CAN SEND YOUR STAFF ON A TWO WEEK BASIS WHERE THE ONE OF THE BINS. IT CAN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT. YOU'VE DONE A LOT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DAMAGED BIT FIRE. DO A LITTLE MORE FOR THESE FOLKS. >> THANK YOU. TONY JERALDI, FOLLOWED BUSINESS DEBRA. >> TONY JERALDI SANTA ROSA RESIDENT. GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR ROGERS AND DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CITY EMPLOYS OVER 1,000 PEOPLE ORGANIZED IN THE 13 DEPARTMENTS WITH NEARLY 180,000 RESIDENTS LIVING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. WITH THIS IN MIND, THE COMMITMENTS, WE NEED ALL SEVEN MEMBERS TO BE FULLY ENGAGED CONSTANTLY INTERACTING WITH RESIDENTS W.THAT IN MIND, I HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS WHEN ONE OF OUR COUNCILMEMBERS IS NOW LIVING OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY, OUTSIDE OF OUR STATE, OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTRY, IN ECUADOR. HOW CAN COUNCILMEMBER COMBS BE CONSIDERED A TRUE REPRESENTATIVE OF OR BELOVED COMMUNITY WEN SHE NO LONGER LIVES HERE.

HOW CAN COUNCILMEMBER COMBS ATTEND IMPORTANT FUNCTIONS, HOW CAN SHE VISIT AREAS OF OUR CITY. HOW'S CAN SHE ENGAGE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND HOMELESS AND AREAS EFFECTED BY OUR FIRES. WE HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE A DREDS HERE IN SANTA ROSA. ISSUES WHERE FACE-TO-FACE DIALOGUE NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH OUR ENTIRE COUNCIL ENGAGED. TO COUNCILMEMBER COMBS, RESPECTFULLY TO MOVE BACK TO SANTA ROSA. IF NOT, DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND PLEASE RESIGN YOUR SEAT ON THIS COUNCIL. MAKE YOUR DECISION NOW AND DO THIS UNDER YOUR TERM. IF YOU'VE ALREADY DECIDE TODAY REMAIN IN ECUADOR DO WHAT OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT IS RIGHT, RESIGN YOUR SEAT. IF YOU DO NOT MAKE A DECISION EXTREMELY SOON, UNDER YOUR TERMS, I WOULD SUGGEST YOUR COLLEAGUES HERE IN SANTA ROSA DO WHAT THEY CAN TO FORCE A RESIGNATION OR REMOVE YOU AS A COUNCILMEMBER OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA. A RESIDENT OF ECUADOR IS NOT A REPRESENTATIVE OF SANTA ROSA COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. MR. GERALDI. DEBRA FOLLOWED BY KIM SHRODER. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DEBRA TAVERA WITH STOP THE CRIME.NET. I HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS, MY HUSBAND WAS A VETERAN IN KNIT NOM. –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

OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD INSULATION OR DUEL PAIN WINDOWS. YOU WILL ALSO BE UNABLE TO PAY AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE THERE IS A PREPAYMENT PENALTY. IF YOU DO NOT AND IF YOU'RE IN A DISASTER AREA AND YOUR INCOME IS HIT, YOU CAN CHANGE THE PAYMENTS OF YOUR PROPERTY TAXES WITH THE COUNTY TAX ACCESS OR. AIF RECORDING THIS ON PACE ON STOPT CRIME GOT NET ON OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL THAT WILL BE POSTED TOMORROW. THIS IS HAIR RAISING AD HORRIFIC AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DEFACTO HAS APPROVED FOR YOU. THE PACE LOANS ARE VERY VERY PREDATORY. AS FAR AS THE HOMELESSNESS, WE'RE WATCHING CONCENTRATION CAMPS BEING ACCEPTED ON OUR STREETS. WE'RE WATCHING PEOPLE HUMAN BEINGS, AS THEY WOULD BE LEFT AS POW OVERSEAS DURING A WAR ON OUR STREETS. WE'RE BECOMING DESENSITIZED TO WHAT WE'RE OBSERVING ON THE STREETS AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE JURISDICTION, [BUZZARD] >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> KIM. >> YOU ALMOST THINK THAT YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. >> PETER. >> LIKE THIS. >> ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RESEAS –RECESS. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. [AUDIENCE MEMBER SHOUTING IN BACKGROUND] >> ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, IF YOU CAN FILE IN QUIETLY. SORRY FOR THE DELAY, BUT IT DID LOU COUNCILMEMBER OLIVARES A CHANCE TO GRAB A SNACK.

SO TRADITIONALLY WE TAKE TEN CARDS FOR THE FIRST COMMENT PERIOD SO. WITH MY DISCRETION WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL 12, BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. ANY CARDS THAT COME AFTER THAT, WE'LL TAKE AT THE END. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS, OKAY. AND COUNCILMEMBER COMBS IS STILL WITH US ON THE PHONE. SO SHE WILL HELP US ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM HERE.

TIM AND FOLLOWED BY ALAN THOMAS. GO AHEAD. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M KIM SHRODER AND A SANTA ROSA NATIVE AND A PARENT OF MONTGOMERY HIGH SCHOOL SINCE 2012. VERIZON PLACED A REQUEST TO PUT A TOWER. COME TO FIND OUT IN EARLY 2018 A SELL G WAS PLACED IN FRONT OF MONTGOMERY HIGH SCHOOL NO. PUBLIC NOTICE THIS TIME. THEY FOUND A WAY TO PUT IT IN THE PUBLIC WAY THE SELL TOWER WENT UNNOTICED FOR A LONG TIME. NOT EVEN OUR PRINCIPAL OR DISTRICT KNEW THIS WAS THERE. HOW IS THIS OKAY? THIS IS EXTREMELY UPSET ANDING OTHER MONTGOMERY PARENTS. THERE IS NO CONSIDERATION FOR OUR CONCERN AND CHILDREN AND SCHOOL STAFF. IT'S CLOSE THE DOOR CLASSROOMS IN THE HEART OF CAMPUS AND STADIUM.

DURING MY 12 YEARS AT MONTGOMERY, I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CELL PHONE SERVICE. IS HAD FIVE BARS BEFORE THE TOWER WENT IN. SINCE THE FCC LIMITS ARE SINCE 1996 NOT 24/7 EXPOSURE, TELECOM CAN RELEASE MICROWAVE RADIATION AND STILL BE COMPLIANCE. WHY ON EARTH DOES VERIZON NEED A TOWER THERE. THE ELECTRIC MAGNETIC FREQUENCY WAS HIGHEST NEAR THE TOWER OF COURSE WHICH IS BY THE WAY WHERE SO MANY KIDS HANG OUT OVER LUNCH AND AFTER SCHOOL ENJOYING THEIR CONVERSATION, A LOST FOOT TRAFFIC. A VERY STRONG SIGNAL CONTINUED WITHIN AN 11-FOOT RADIUS. IN SFUD HE'S PAID FOR BIT TELECOM WILL EXPLAIN TO YOU NOT SO MUCH. MANY ARE PROHIBITING SELL TOWNS. OUR PRECIOUS CHILDREN AND STAFF ARE PEPPERED WITH THIS RADIATION ALL DAY LONG. THESE PARENTS AND STAFF HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. ASIDE FROM HEADACHES AND ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION WHAT IF PEOPLE DID START GETTING SICK LIKE THEY DID IN MODESTO, 8 PEOPLE WITH CANCER SO FAR. I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU AND FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION FOR EFFECTIVE TECHNOLOGY. WITHOUT COME PRO MICING THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. >> THANK YOU, KIM. AND DUE TO THE BROWN ACT, WE CANNOT ENGAGE BACK AND FORTH. BUT CHECK THE AGENDA, THAT DISCUSSION IS COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL. ALAN THOMAS FOLLOWED BY ANITA. >> TUZ VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS AN OLD FACE. SO I HAD SPOKEN LAST WEEK ABOUT YOU FOLKS REACHING OUT TO THE COUNTY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE JOE TO TRAIL AND CAMPING THAT IS GOING ON. AND I ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT YOU SEND A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO THE CITY OF BOISEI IDAHO WHO AS YOU KNOW IN 2009, THERE WAS MARTIN VERSUS BOISEI.

AND IT WAS IN THE COURT SYSTEM FOR A LONG TIME. IN APRIL, THE 9th CIRCUIT RULED IN FAVOR SAYING IT WAS THE 8th AMENDMENT VIOLATION. SO THE CITY IN THE 9th CIRCUIT, COULD NOT ENFORCE THEIR VACANCY LAW. I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. I'VE READ THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU FOLKS, THERE IS 33 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, THE CITY OF SACRAMENTO, THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL, THE COUNTY OF DEL NORTE, THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, VISTA, THE CITY OF VISTA, THEY'VE ALL SAID, SUPREME PLEASE OVERTURN THIS.

THIS IS HAM SPRINGING OUR ABILITY TO PUBLIC SERVICE. WHAT HAPPENED TONIGHT, JUST NOW WHEN WE WERE ALL DISRUPTED A S A PERFECT EXAMPLE O WHAT IS GOING ON IN SANTA ROSA AND THE WHOLE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO ONE MINUTE REGULATIONS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO WHATEVER WE ALL HAVE TO DO. THEY CAN JUST DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, CALIFORNIA LEADERSHIP INCLUDING THE PEOPLE OF DAIS, FEEL MORE COMPELLED TO NOT JUST SAY NO. IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLING. –ACCEPTABLE. SORRY. YOU SEEM TO DO THAT FOR OTHER THINGS BUN FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO READ THE FRIENDLY BRIEF THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE SUPREME COURT BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. BASICALLY READ IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING. WHY CITIES WANT YOU GUYS TO ENFORCE NORMAL STANDARD QUALITY LIMITS SO PEOPLE ARE NOT LIVING OUTSIDE. HOWEVER YOU DO IT, THAT'S UP TO YOU.

BUT DO SOMETHING. SO I WAS ASKED BY ONE OF THE MEMBERS TO AFNTION ANYBODY IN THE ROOM OR ANYTHING THAT SUPPORTS CAN WOOD JUST THE CITIZENS ACTION GROUP THAT HAS BEEN FORMED AFTER THE WHOLE DOUGH BACKLE IN THE JOE TO TRAIL TO RAISE THEIR HAND. I'M GOING TO RAISE MY HAND AND WHOEVER. AND I LIKE A CITIZEN, WILL ADHERE TO YOUR THREE-MINUTE LIMIT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, I JUST WANTED REMIND YOU THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING OUT IN THIS WEATHER AND IT'S GETTING VERY COLD. YOU KNOW ABOUT JOE RODOBA BEING OUT TL. WE'RE TRYING TO ORGANIZE THEM AND GET TOGETHER PORT-A-POTTIES, GARBAGE PICKUP AND ABOUT THE DROP OFF OF GARBAGE BEHIND THE PEOPLE THERE. SO I WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE MET WITH, WE HAVE MET WITH KELLY AND IN FACT, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER THE CHAT PROGRAM SO IT MAKES SENSE SO THAT IT'S SOMETHING TAT WE CAN USE.

TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS, THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HOSPITABLE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO START RAINING SOON. HELLO HEADS UP, THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE. AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY TRULY A BREAK DOWN IN OUR CAPITALIST SYSTEM. AND NOTICE THAT THERE IS A CHAP PROGRAM THAT WILL HELP. PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THAT INSTEAD OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS, IT'S TERRIBLE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THEIR HOMES BURNED DOWN, BUT YOUR ATTENTION IS ALL OF THAT. THOSE ARE THE BIG HOMEOWNERS WITH A LOT OF MONEY. IT SHOULD NOT MAKE US DIFFERENT. WE'RE IDENTICAL TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY. WE'RE STILL PEOPLE, WE'RE STILL RESIDENTS, YOU STILL HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO US. AND I ALSO WANT ASK YOU A QUESTION, IF YOU DIDN'T TKE 14.2 IS KAWANIS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE? ANY OF THOSE FANCY HOMES. BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST GOING TO SIT THERE LIKE THE ONES UP ON YOLUPA AND OVER IN STONEY POINT AND NOBODY CAN LIVE IN THEM BECAUSE NOBODY CAN AFFORD THE RENT.

OKAY. OKAY, SO YOU CAN'T ANSWER ANY QUESTION? YOU WON'T ANSWER MY QUESTION. YOU HAVE NO CLUE. I'M SORRY. IT'S THE COUNCIL I NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO ME. OKAY. WELL THEN I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TO YOU ANYMORE. >> AND AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE NOT BEEN HERE BEFORE, ON NON AGENDA DUE TO THE BROWN ACT WE CANNOT ENGAGE IN A BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN AGENDIZED ITEM AND WE CANNOT PART OF A CONVERSATION. STEVEN FOLLOWED BY CRAIG MURPHY. >> YES, STEVEN MSER FROM SANTA ROSA. HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SMART TRAIN. AND PASSED A RESOLUTION ON TO THE BALLOT NEXT MARCH. AND. THAT GOES ALONG WITH TIME REJECTED THE SMART TRAIN AND THEN SMART KNEW AND LIED AND THEN A QUARTER SENT WOULD DO IT. FAR FROM THE, THE GOAL THERE. SO IS THE WE FINANCING THE BOND TO MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FROM ABOUT 20 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. BUT REALLY WHAT WE NEED IS TO PAY UP THAT, AND MAKE THEM RUN THE COMPUTER TRAIN, SO WHY ARE WE HAVING THIS SERVICE.

WHAT THEY DID MORE OF. I'M FIGURING THAT THE, THAT THE EXTRA IS GOING TO ADD THE BEST INTENTIONS OF SMART BOARD MEMBERS. AND SMART MEMBERS ARE–INTELLIGENT QUESTION. IN FACT, HE ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT POSITIVE TRAIN TO ROLL WHICH THEY GOT BACK TO HIM. BUT NOBODY ON THE BOARD HAS A BLUE ABOUT POSITIVE TRAIN CONTROL. THEY JUST WORKUP THE PACKETS. VOTE YES, SEE YA. SO VOTE NO, NEXT MARCH. BE SMART, PAY THE BONDS AND START FROM THERE. >> FIRST OF ALL I'VE OBSERVED YESTERDAY DRIVING BY THE JOE TO GENERAL TRAIL THAT BOTH SIDES OF STONEY TRAIL IS ENGULFED BY ENCAMPMENTS WHERE A FEW WEEKS AGO OR LAST MONTH WHEN I WAS OUT ON THE TRAIL ON A BIKE RIDE, I OBSERVED IT STARTED 100 YARDS IN.

BUT IT'S DEFINITELY EXPANDED. THIS IS IT SEEMS THAT THIS IS CORE LATHE TO THE FIRES COMING ON. I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FIRE SERVICES THAT WE'VE HAD HERE IN THE COUNTY. AND PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM OUT OF THE AREA BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT MORE PEOPLE NOW THAN THERE WERE A MONTH AGO. I'VE ALSO NOTICED MORE RVs THAT HAVE MOVED BACK INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE MONTGOMERY VILLAGE AREA JUST THIS MORNING I CALLED ON TWO RVs THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR MORE THAN 5 DAYS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

OUT OF ONE OF THEM THERE WAS A DOG THAT ATTACKED A CYCLIST THIS MORNING, I BELIEVE IT WAS. SO THIS IS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE. GOING ALONG WITH THE RVs THEY'RE DUMPING THEIR SEWAGE INTO STORAGE. THERE IS A DUMP STATION AT THE RV FAIRGROUNDS. THEY DON'T SEE THESE RVs THESE FOLKS LIVING IN THEIR RV, THEY DON'T SEE THE RV PAYING $10 TO DUMP THEIR BLACKWATER THEY'RE GOING INTO THE STORM DRAINS AND THAT'S DISASTER ON THE CREEKS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THIS OVERNIGHT BUT I SUGGEST ON THAT ISSUE, THAT WE ISSUE $10 VOUCHERS TO THE FOLKS LIVING IN THE RVs SO THEY DISCLOSE OF THEIR WASTE WATER PROPERLY.

THEY CAN GO TO THE RV PARK BY THE FAIRGROUNDS AND DUMP RATHER THAN DUMPING THEM IN THE CREEKS OR JUST I THE GUTTER WHICH IS WHERE IT'S GOING RIGHT NOW. AND ANOTHER ISSUE, EVERYBODY WANTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WILL NOT I AM FACT OTHER FOLKS AND OTHER PARKS OR OTHER ENCAMPMENTS. THEY HAVE OTHER HEALTH ISSUES AND THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH DRUGS. AND THAT NEEDS TO BE TREATED AT A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL.

ALLOWING IT TO FESTER, IS NOT A SOLUTION EITHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ELIZABETH. >> ELIZABETH NICE TO SEE ALL OF YOU. I RECENTLY WAS HELD UP AT THE EMERGENCY UNIT OVER AT THE HOSPITAL AND WATCHED GANDHI MVIE SAYING THAT HE KNEW THE WAY OUT OF HELL. AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS COUNTRY WILL FIND A WAY TO GET OUT WHAT I CONSIDER A LIVING HELL. I WAS BORN HERE, MY MOTHER WAS A SOCIALIST FROM CANADA. AFTER I WATCHED THE GANDHI MOVIE, I WROTE A LOST STUFF DONE. I SUPPORT TE 40-DAY STRIKE THAT PETER HAS. JUST STOP THE FASIST. NOW THE CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS HAS BEEN COOPTED AND THEY BOUGHT OUT OUR MASS IMMEDIATE YA. IS WOULD SAY THAT A CHRISTIAN RELIGION IS IN A GENERAL STATE OF DECAY DUE TO ITS SUPREMIST ATTITUDES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF INDEPENDENT –INDIA THEY HAVE NOT GONE TO WAR FOR YEARS AND THEY HAVE HAD DIFFERENT MASTERS.

LET'S START FUNDING CAPITOL WAR. LET'S NOT BE DEBRIEFED, LET'S GET REAL. LIKE CAGES AND PRISONS ARE NO PLACE FOR KIDS ♪ KLAO*US♪♪ CLOSE DETENSION CAMPS AND WELCOME REFUGEES, AND UNITE REFUGEES. I HAVE INCLUDING HOMELESS. I HAVE A HOMELESS SON HE WAS ATTACKED BY SANTA ROSA POLICE. HE WAS SUFFERING FROM BRAIN INJURY, BEING A BLACK MAN COVERED IN BLOOD I'M SURE IT WAS EASY TO SAY, HEY YOU'RE DRUFT BECAUSE WE WANT TO ARREST YOU. THEY LOST HIS RECORDS OF THE ALCOHOL TEST WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM. WHY DID THEY LOSE THEM? BECAUSE HE WAS NOT DRUNK. THEY JUST WANTED TO ARREST HIM. HE HS A MASTERED FROM STANFORD AND THE POLICE PROSECUTE BERKELEY CALL HIM PROFESSOR BECAUSE HE WAS A ASSISTANT PROFESSOR IN STANFORD. WE'RE IN A LOT OF DEEP, YOU KNOW WHAT, HERE IN AMERICA.

AND THE HELL CAN CAPITALISM. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, ELIZABETH AND GLAD YOU'RE FEELING BETTER. >> OH YES. >> I'M GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. WE'LL GO TO ITEM 14.1, MR. McGWYNN. >> ITEM 14.1 PUBLIC HEARING. ANNE SENIOR PLANNER PRESENTING. JOINED BY CLAIRE HEARTMAN. >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR ROGERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THE CODE IS TEXT AMENDMENT OBJECTING FOR DEVELOPMENT PURSUANT TO LEGISLATION. THE CITY HAS DOCUMENT WHICH COVERS RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL DESIGN KNOWN AS THE DESIGN GUIDELINES. THESE GUIDELINES ARE SUBJECT TO ALLOW FOR DISCRETION AND FLEXIBILITY. THEREFORE THEY CANNOT BE ENFORCED THROUGH THE MANDATED PROCESS. THE GOAL IS TO ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY AND CITY DEVELOPMENT CITY WIDE WHILE COMPLYING WITH CITY LEGISLATION. JURISDICTION ACROSS THE STATE ARE EXPERIENCING HOUSING SHORTAGE AND HIGH COSTS IN AN EFFORT TO ADDRESS THISH, THE STATE GOVERNMENT HAS A DOPTD A NUMBER OF HOUSING BILLS WHICH REQUIRE A STREAMLINE AND MINISTERIAL PROCESS FOR SPECIFIED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

TWO BILLS WERE THE I AM–INPOTUS SENATE BILL 2162 AND 25. THESE TWO BILLS DISCUSS A STREAMLINE ADMINISTERIAL PROCESS. AND STREAM LINED IN THIS CONTEXT MEANS THAT PROJECTS ARE PROCESSED WITHIN A SPECIFIED TIME FRAME AND MINISTERIAL MEANS NO JUDGMENT. AS ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION TO EXPEDITE HOUSING WITHIN THE STATE HAS BEEN ANTICIPATED TO APPLY TO FUTURE PROJECTS. SB35 R*IRD THE MINISTERIAL PROCESS. THIS BILL IS ONLY REQUIRED FOR JURISDICTION WHICH ARE NOT NEEDING THEIR HOUSING NEED OF WHICH SANTA ROSA IS NL AND IT REQUIRES THAT THESE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, NOT GO THROUGH A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PROCESS SO. THAT MEANS THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR USE PERMIT OR DESIGN REVIEW AND LANDMARK ALT RACINGS BUT INSTEAD THESE ARE PROCESSES NAYS MINISTERIAL FASHION.

BECAUSE THESE PROJECTS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO DISCRETIONARY REVIEW, THEY'RE ALSO NOT SUBJECT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. PROJECTS NEED TO MEET ANUMBER OF REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO BE PROCESSES THROUGH SB35 STREAMLINE AND MINISTERIAL PROCESS. THEY INCLUDE THAT A PROJECT IS PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL AND INCLUDES AT LEAST TWO MINUTES. –UNITS. PROJECTS ABOVE TEN UNITS MUST BE REQUIRE A LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY. THEY WILL BE INFILLED BY STATE DEFINITION AND THEY CANNOT CONTAIN A NUMBER OF ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. AND FURTHER CONSTRUCTION WORKERS FOR THE PROJECT MUST BE PAID PREVAILING WAGE. IN ADDITION PROJECTS MUST COMPLY WITH EACH OBJECTIVE STANDARD WITHIN A CITY AND ANY OTHER STANDARD IN THE CITY CODE OR GENERAL PLAN. ASSEMBLY BILL 2162 WENT INTO EFFECT JANUARY AND REQUIRES THE SAME STREAMLINE ADMINISTERIAL APPROVAL PROCESS. AS IT DOES NOT REQUIRE DISCRETION AL REVIEW IT'S ALSO EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL ACT. IN ORDER FOR A PROJECT TO QUALIFY FOR STREAMLINE AND MINISTERIAL PROCESSING, UNDER 2162 IT MUST INCLUDE A SPECIFIED NUMBER OF UNITS FOR AFFORDABLE RENTERS AND THOSE UNITS MUST BE RESTRICTIVE FOR 25 YEARS. AND MUST BE DESIGNATED AS SUPPORTIVE HOUSE ANDING NN RESIDENTIAL FLOOR AREA MUST BE USED FOR ONSITE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

THE STANDARDS CONTAIN IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU ARE SOURCED FROM THE CITY DESIGN GUIDELINES. THEY HAVE BEEN MODIFIED BASED ON THE MOVEMENT TO REMAIN OBJECTIVE AND FEASIBLE. AT SUCH THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL ADORATIONS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH STAFF REVIEW, BOARD AND COMMISSION REVIEW IN ADDITION TO PUBLIC COMMENT. THE TOPICAL AREAS IN THE TEXT AMOUNT INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBLE, BUILDING DESIGN AND MASSING AND ARCHITECTURE AND OUTDOOR AND COMMON SPACE AND DESIGN AND ACCESSORY ELEMENTS.

THE NIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBLE STANDARDS FOCUS ON A MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT BEING WELL INTEGRATED INTO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. THE BUILDING DSIGN STANDARDS RELATE TO MATERIALS AND DETAILS INCLUDING AFFORDABLE UNITS SHALL BE INTINGE WISHABLE FROM UNITS. THE ARCHITECTURE EYESES FEATURES, BUILDING RECESSES AND ENTRIES. THE COMMON AND OPEN SPACE SECTION, ADDRESSES BOTH PRIVATE AND COMMON OPEN SPACE MINIMUM AS A SPECIFIC NOTE AND PLAN. HOWEVER THIS MAY BE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY THROUGHOUT THE DOWNTOWN STATION AREA SPECIFIC PLAN PROCESS. THE SITE DESIGN INCLUDES SAFETY AND EASE OF LAYOUT AND FINALLY THE ACCESSORY FOCUS ON MECHANIC CAL SCREENING, FENCING AND REFUSE CONTAINERS. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS A NUMBER OF OBJECTIVE STANDARDS WITHIN THE CITY CODE. SOME THAT MANY ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH ARE STANDARD.

THIS INCLUDES SETBACK MAXIMUM HEIGHT OR COVERAGE FOR STRUCTURES. AND ALSO ONE TREE PER PARKING SPACE SXZ THAT SETBACK BE MAINTAINED WITH LANDSCAPING. THE CITY CODE ALSO INCLUDES THE WATER EFFICIENT LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE WHICH REQUIRES THE USE OF DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS. OUTDOOR LIGHTING IS A SECTION, COVERED IN THE ZONING CODE WHICH REQUIRES DOWN SHIELDED LIGHTING. AND THERE IS A SECTION IN THE ZONING CODE ON PARKING WHICH DICTATES THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED BY USE AND ALSO THE DESIGN AND DIMENSION OF PARKING SPACES. I WILL NOTE THAT BOTH SENATE BILL 25 AND 2162 DO MODIFY PARKING REQUIREMENT BASED ON QUALIFYING FACTORS SO. IN SOME CASES, NO PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED BASED ON PROXIMITY TO PUBLIC TRANSIT. THERE IS ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR HILLSIDE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ORDINANCE WHICH REQUIRES A MORE RESTRICTIVE SIDE YARDS AND BACK YARD.

AND FINALLY THE CITY POLICIES INCLUDE STANDARDS FOUR STREET SIDEWALK AND BIKE LANES ALL OF WHICH WOULD STILL BE IMPLEMENTED. IN JUNE, AN ONLINE SURVEY WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC WITH THE PROPOSED STANDARDS. 9 COMMITTEE ADVISORY BOARD AND ECONOMIC DEPARTMENT DISTRIBUTION LIST WHICH INCLUDES OVER 50,000 EMAIL A DRESZ INCLUDING BUILDERS AND NONPROFIT AND GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION SXZ OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES RECEIVED NOTICE OF THIS ONLINE SURVEY. IN ADDITION A WEBSITE AD SURVEY WERE POSTED OT VARIOUS SOCIAL MEDIA ACTS AND WERE DISTRIBUTED BY WAY OF FLYERS AT TWO COMMUNITY EVENTS. THE ONLINE SURVEY WAS CREATED IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND TOTAL AT LAST CHECK 146 PEOPLE RESPONDED. THE SURVEY WAS ASKED T ASK PARTICIPANT TO RANK THE PREPOSED STANDARDS BUSINESS ORDER OF PREFERENCE BY TOPICAL AREA. AND CONSENSUS IN EACH AREA INCLUDING LIMITING THE HEIGHT OF NEW BUILDINGS AND PRESERVATION DISTRICTS AND LOCATION OF PARKING AND BUILDING ORIENTATION AND THE INCLUSION OF SINGLE FAMILY DESIGN ELEMENTS. THE MARKET UNITS AND REQUIRING COMMON OPEN SPACE FOR AREAS WITH PROJECT WITH MORE THAN 10 UNITS. THE SURVEY ALSO INCLUDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD SUGGESTIONS OTHER THAN THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS INCLUDED IN THE SURVEY.

THE NEED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND HIGH QUALITY TERMS MATERIALS AND ADDITIONAL PARK ING. THE ENTIRE RSULTS OF THE SURVEY LAS BEEN INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENT FIVE TO THE STAFF REPORT. SO THE TEXT AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU HAS EVOLVED FROM PUBLIC COMMENT THROUGH THE SURVEY AND ALSO THROUGH THE CULTURAL HERITAGE BOARD AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS. BACK IN JUNE, A PRESENTATION WAS GIVEN TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND CULTURAL HERITAGE BOARD. THE BOARD MEMBERS AT THE TIME PROVIDED THEIR COMMENTS WITH THE PROPOSED STANDARDS. A MAJORITY O THE BOARD MEMBERS DID EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS ON DESIGN REVIEW AND THEY UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFICULTY ASSOCIATED WITH FORMING THESE STANDARDS.

SPECIFIC COMMENTS THAT STAFF MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO INCORPORATE INTO THE ORDINANCE INCLUDED, LIMITING OPEN SPACE MINIMUMS TO AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN STATION AREA PLAN TO AVOID CONSTRAINING DEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA WHERE THE CITY IS FOCUSING ON ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION A BOARD MEMBER SUGGESTED THAT REQUIRING ONSITE AMENITIES BEING LOCATED TO THE REAR OR CENTER OF THE SITE COULD DEACTIVATE IT IF THE STANDARDS WERE REMOVED. AND A NUMBER O OTHER STANDARDS WERE AMOUNTED BASED ON BOARD COMMENT AND THOSE HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED FURTHER WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT. IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YAE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON TE PROPOSED TAX AMOUNT AND WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN STANDARDS. THE PROPOSED AMOUNTS ARE EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT OF CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, PER CEQA GUIDELINE. IN THAT THE AMENDMENTS THEMSELVES DO NOT HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO CAUSE AND EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. THEY ARE WRITTEN TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE ESTHETIC RESOURCE SXZ EACH OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS HAS BEEN WRITTEN TO STATE LAW AND FINALLY THAT ANY CONCEIVABLE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WOULD BE SPECULATIVE IN THE PROPOSAL.

WITH THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE ADDING CITY CODE 2039 RELATE TODAY STREAMLINE AND MINISTERIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER SAWYER? >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. YOU MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS SLIGHTLY. ON SLIDE 18, YOU REFER TO ENHANCING ESTHETIC RESOURCES. I'M CURIOUS AS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS RESPONSE TO THIS AND HOW IT APPLIES TO OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND THE PRESERVATION OF THOSE AND HOW WE'RE BEING SENSITIVE TO THOSE DISTRICTS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, TRYING TO ENHANCE OUR BUILDING OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OTHER HOUSING AS WELL. THE BOARD DID EXPRESS CONCERNS ON THE ACT TO REVIEW A PERMIT. THE ZONING CODE CURRENTLY HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR BUILDING HEIGHT WITHIN PRESERVATION DISTRICTS WHICH WOULD STILL BE IN EFFECT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT EXPRESSED IN THIS TEXT AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT CURRENTLY IS IN THE CODE. HOWEVER THERE WAS NOT CONSENSUS ON A SPECIFIC ITEMS TAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THESE STANDARDS THAT WOULD INCOMPASS EVERY STANCE AND WE FOUND THAT TO BE A CHALLENGE.

>> THANK YOU. AND IN MY READING OF THE STAFF REPORT, THESE WE WILL BE IT'S MY ASSUMPTION AND MY HOPE THAT WE WILL BE SENSITIVE TO OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, BEING CAREFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IDENTIFY THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT AND MEANINGFUL BECAUSE NOT EVERY BUILDING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IMPORTANT. SO I'M JUST WANTING TO RELIEF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'LL BE SENSITIVE TO THOSE. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER COMBS DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THE REPORT THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD AND THE OUT REACH THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE. I DO HAVE A, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS BASICALLY COMING TO US AS A STATE REQUIREMENT. I HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE ABILITYING OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO ESTABLISH A FORM BASE CODE SO THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARD FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. FOR EXAMPLE, THIS MIGHT IMPACT A HISTORIC DISTRICT SO IS IT POSSIBLE IN THE FTURE, DO WE HAVE A MECHANISM FOR NEIGHBORHOOD TO BRING SOME OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARD SUCH AS A BASE CODE TO PROTECT A HISTORIC OR SIMILAR DISTRICTS? >> THIS IS CLAIRE, DEPUTY DIRECTER OF PLANNING.

YEAH, I THINK THIS SET OF STANDARDS CAN EVOLVE OVERTIME WITH THE CITY. IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE STANDARD SINCE THE STATE LAW WILL PREVAIL WHETHER WE HAVE CITIES STANDARDS OR NOT. SO THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STATE AND IT HAS BEEN VETTED BROADLY. AND VERY FEW PROJECTS, IN FACT THE CITY HAS NOT PROCESSED A PROJECT THAT MET THE CRITERIA YET. SO IT'S STILL EARLY IN THE PROCESS. BUT THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP FOR THE CITY. THAT BROUGHT PUBLIC REVIEW TO GET US TO THIS POINT. SO CERTAINLY THE STANDARDS CAN CHANGEOVER TIME AS WE GET TO KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORKOUT. SO INCLUDE SOME DESIGN STANDARDS AS WE MOVE THE PROJECTS FORWARD? >> YES, ON DECEMBER 3, THERE WILL BE A JOINT STUDY SESSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU'LL SEE OUR, THE CITY'S DRAFT REFERRED ALTERNATIVE AND AS PART OF THAT PACKAGE, AND INS OUT FOR PUBLIC REVIEW THIS MONTH. YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE DESIGN CONSIDERATION, AT LEAST THAT WE'LL NEED TO WORK THROUGH ON THE EDGES OF OUR PRESERVATION DISTRICTS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I REALLY AGAIN APRECIATE THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO US SO THAT WHILE THE STATE IS SHORT OF FORCING OR HAND, WE HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH WHILE WE DEVELOP PERHAPS MORE DETAILED DESIGN GUIDELINES. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING. >> THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID, WITH THE COMMUNITY OUT REACH AND THE COMMUNITIES WHERE WE RELY FOR THE INPUT.

I DO HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. ON SLIDE 7, WE HAVE REQUIREMENT FOR AFFORDABILITY BASED ON 55 YEARS WHICH IS EXCELLENT. I'M WONDERING IF, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE A THRESHOLD NUMBER OF UNITS IN ORDER TO TRIGGER. DO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER? ARE WE STILL WORKING ON THAT? >> SENATE BILL 35 HAS A THRESHOLD, TEN OR MORE UNITS. AND THEN 10% OF THOSE UNITS NEED TO BE AFFORDABLE. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER UNDER ASSEMBLY BILL 2162 BUT I CAN LIKELY FIND IT. >> NOT A BIG DEAL JUST CURIOSITY IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE DO. I MIGHT DIFFER TO CLAIRE TO ANYTHING THAT MAY HAVE BEN INCLUDED IN THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING, ORDINANCE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME BACK IF AT ALL POSSIBLE SO THE UNITS CAN BE TRULY INTEGRATED AND NOT HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO INTENDS TO DO A GREAT JOB, RUN OUT OF MONEY AND THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING THE LAST UNITS.

AND THEN ON SLIDE 12, I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. I'M A BIG FAN OF PUBLIC COMMONS AND GROWING AND PROTECTING OUR PUBLIC COMMONS. WHERE DEVELOPMENTS OF 20 OR MORE UNITS, THERE WOULD BE TWO OPEN SPACES ONE FOR ADULTS AND ONE FOR DHIRN. AND FOR, DEVELOPMENTS OF 100 OR MORE THAT WE WOULD HAVE 3. I'M WONDERING, WHAT KINDS OF GUIDELINES LIKE FOR ADULTS, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A GYMNASIUM. IS THERE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THAT? >> I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY. SO IS THE QUESTION IS THERE A SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR WHAT DID HE FNES AN ADULT OPEN SPACE AREA. >> I'M ASKING IS IT PERSPECTIVE. IF I BUILD 20 UNITS IF I'M TOLD FOR AN ADULT SITUATION, I NEED TO HAVE A COMMON ROOM OR FOR CHILDREN A PUBLIC STRUCTURE. SOMETHING THAT WILL MEET THE NEEDS FOR CHILDREN IN OPEN SPACE OR ADULT THAT WE CAN GET CREATIVITY AND WE CAN GET SOME NEW IDEAS AND BEST PRACTICES AS THE MARKET YOU KNOW,ITY RATES ON THAINGZ ARE WORKING OR NOT.

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THE ONLY REALLY SPECIFIC STANDARD MENTIONED IN THE OPEN SPACE CRITERIA IS THAT, ADULT OPEN SPACE AREA DOES NOT CONTAIN PLAY EQUIPMENT AND THAT THERE IS SEATING AVAILABLE. AND THAT, A TEENAGE OUTDOOR AREA MIGHT INCLUDE, SPORTS FIELDS, AGE APPROPRIATE PARK EQUIPMENT OR OTHER AGE APPROPRIATE EQUIPMENT. THAT ONE IS WRITTEN MORE BROADLY. THE CHALLENGE IS TO ENSURE THAT IT CAN BE MEASURED SO. IF YOU WERE TO LOOK UP A CHILD PLAY, OR A CHILD COMMON SPACE AND THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WOULD COME UP PLAY EQUIPMENT O JUST GENERAL KIND OF LANDSCAPE AREA THEN THAT WOULD APPLY. BUT WE HAVE TO AVOID THE USE OF PERSONAL JUDGMENT. >> I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE PERSONAL JUDGMENT OUT OF IT.

WHERE IT WOULD BE IF YOU SEE T YOU KNOW IT. THAT THERE WOULD BE SEATING IN A CHILDREN'S SPACE AND ADULT LIKE MYSELF WHO WANTS TO SIT DOWN WHILE THEY'RE CHILD IS PLAYING. AND THE LAST QUESTION AROUND THAT ONE, IS WHEN YOU DO GET OVER THE NUMBER THAT WOULD REQUIRE THREE OPEN PUBLIC SPACES, DOES IT DO WE HAVE ANY DESCRIPTION AROUND? WHETHER THAT THIRD UNIT OF PUBLIC SPACE GOES TO A CHILD SPACE OR ADULT SPACE? LIKE IF YOU HAVE AN UNDER 12 SPACE, DOES THE NEXT ONE GO TO TEENAGERS? OR CAN YOU BUILD A GYM? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? >> YES, SO IF THERE ARE MORE THAN 100 UNITS, THEN THERE WOULD BE ONE SPACE FOR ADULTS ONE FOR TEENAGER AND ONE FOR YOUNGER CHILDREN.

AND OF COURSE PEOPLE CAN ATTEND DIFFERENT AREAS. BUT THE EQUIPMENT THERE WOULD BE GEARED TOWARDS THE SPECIFIED AGE GROUPS. >> SO IT DOES GO ON TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY MORE SPECIFICALLY THE DPRAITER NUMBER OF UNITS. THAT'S EXCELLENT TO HEAR. AND I'M WONDERING ARE PARKING FOR BIKES A REQUIREMENT. >> YES, PARK FOR BIKES IS A REQUIREMENT. AND OUR ZONING CODE IS UNDER THE PARKING SECTION AND NOTHING THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE STATE LEGISLATION, TAKES AWAY NIZ OF THE CITY'S ABILITY TO ENFORCE THEIR EXISTING BICYCLE PARKING REQUIREMENT.

IT'S JUST FOR AUMZ. >> EXCELLENT. AND I'M WNDERING HOW LOW YOU CAN GO ON PARKING. I'M WONDERING IN AREAS THAT ARE NOT SEEN AS THAT BUT FAIRLY CLOSE TO WORK SPAISZ. WOULD SOMEBODY HAVE TO COME AND ASK FOR A REDUCTION? TYPICALLY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DISCRETIONARY PROCESS LIKE A MINOR USE PERMIT. >> WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT HERE, AS WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE TO SOMETHING MINISTERIAL AS YOU CALLED IT, THE INTENTION OF THE COUNCIL AT THIS POINT TO NOT GET US HUNG UP ON BUILDING AND PARKING SPACE THAT'S NONE OF US WANT. I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN SHARE DATA. >> I CAN DO THA. AGAIN THE GENERAL SENTIMENT WAS CONCERN TO GET DESIGN INTO OBJECTIVE STANDARDS BECAUSE SPECIFIC COMMENTS, WELL A MORE SPECIFIC COMMENT WAS CONCERN THAT ANY OF THESE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS MIGHT MAKE A PROJECT INFEASIBLE.

SO IT WAS A CHALLENGE THINKING THROUGH WHAT ANY STANDARD CAN DO TO A PROJECT ON A CERTAIN SITE OR A PROJECT FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS OR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. ONE COMMENT WAS TO ELIMINATE A REQUIREMENT FOR WHICH WOULD PROHIBIT THE USE OF A VINYL WINDOW TYPE THAT CAME FROM OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES. BUT A DESIGN RVIEW BOARD MEMBERS MENTIONED THAT IT'S A WINDOW FOR A MORE AFFORDABLE MULTABLE UNITS AND HE THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE ELIMINATED. >> THANK YOU AND LAST THING, WHICH IS A QUESTION COMMENT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD TRIGGER THIS SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT SHOULD BE A LIVING DOCUMENT. IS IT A LIVING DOCUMENT? AND WAT WOULD TRIGGER A REVIEW THAT WOULD NOT BE CUMBERSOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENT BUT ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING, KIND OF GO SIDEWAYS. >> SO I CAN ANSWER THAT, SO WHAT I INTEND TO DO AS WE REPORT OUT FOR IMPLEMENTATION, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS IN EFFECT WHETHER WE HAVE THE STANDARDS ADOPTED OR NOT, IT'S A BUY RIGHT. WHAT WE INTEND TO DO IS REPORT OUT TO OUR VARIOUS BOARDS AND TO THE COUNCIL AS W GET AN APPLICATION, AS WE LEARN HOW THIS IS IMPLEMENTED.

AND I WANTED TO FOLLOW-UP ON AMY'S COMMENTS. ANOTHER BALANCING ACT THAT TE BOARDS HAD TO DO, IS THIS BUY RIGHT AND BY HAVING APPLICATION OF STANDARDS 100% OF THE TIME, ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS THAT THESE PROJECTS WILL START TO LOOK IDENTICAL OR IT'S ALMOST DESIGNS ITSELF. SO THEY DIDN'T TAKE EVERY DESIGN GUIDE AND MAKE IT A STANDARD. AND THEY DID THAT DELIBERATELY SO THERE IS FLEXIBILITY AND HOW THIS BUILD OUT. SO WE NEED TO HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE.

THEY SAW THIS AS A FIRST GOOD STEP. AND GET MORE EXPERIENCE ON HOW THIS IS APPLYING AND IF THIS IS GIVING FLEXIBILITY. >> IS APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME BACK. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF CARDS ON THIS. DUANE DEWITT FOLLOWED BY ANNE SEALY. AND I DON'T SEE DYANE. AND IT'S PUBLIC HEARING SO WE WILL OPEN IT. ANNE SEALLY FOLLOWED BY GREGORY FRON. >> VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ANNE SEALY, HAS A LONG TIME HOUSING ADVOCATE YOU WOULD THINK THAT I WOULD BE JUP PG FOR JOY AT THE VIGOR OF THIS LEGISLATION. HOWEVER, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE MENTION IN THE LEGISLATION OR IN THE STAFF REPORT DESCRIBING IT. OF PUBLIC NOTICING OR INPUT. THAT'S WRONG. YOU'RE KHAL ENDSING TO MAKE SURE THAT POLITICS DO NOT OVERWHELM YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO YOUR CONSTITUENCE, TO KEEP THEM INFORMED AND GIVE THEM A SAY IN THEIR CITY. IN THE PAST I'VE SEN YOU BE WONDERFULLY CREATIVE AND MAKING SURE THAT PUBLIC POLICY SERVES THE PUBLIC. AND I THINK YOU CN DO THAT HERE. THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW OF THE FACTS OF DEVELOPMENT IF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT A BUILDING IS, IS GOING TO ARRIVE UNTIL IT'S AREADY DONE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CHANCE A ALL TO INFLUENCE MATTERS THAT MAY BE OF CONCERN TO THEM.

I KNOW THAT YOU CAN FIND A WAY TO DO THIS. TO FIND A WAY TO VOLVE PUBLIC NOTICING. >> THANK YOU, ANNE. WE HAVE GREGORY FOLLOWED BY THOMAS ELSE. >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. AND HOUSING SHELTERS, YOU HAVE NOT ADDRESSED WHAT I TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, THERE IS A WHOLE LOT O INTEREST AT THE LEGISLATION TO START SAYING, THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN ALL OVER THE A VARIETY OF INCOME LEVELS FROM 100% DOWN TO 0 AND VIRTUALLY ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND THEY'RE ALL CONTAINING THE ELEMENTS THAT THIS HAS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT AN ADVANTAGE OUT OF THE THAT MARKET RATE THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE GIVING ANY KIND OF AFFORDABILITY AND WUNTS TO DEVELOP THEM AND THINKS THAT THEY HAVE THE BYLINE PROCESS. SO I'M HAPPY TO THAT THIS IS SAYING TO THE LOW INCOME COMMUNITY, WE NEED UZ TO BUILD HOUSING AND WE'RE GOING TO TELL THE CITY THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT BY RIGHT.

I'M ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE, BECAUSE BEING IN CONTROL OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, I WANT THE CITY TO HAVE A VIE LANT VISIT SENS INVOLVED AND A ALONG AGO WHEN YOU WERE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD RIGHT AFTER THE FIRES AND YOU HAD A PIE CHART THAT HAD A LITTLE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, I WARNED YOU THAT YOU WOULD LOSE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT BY HAVING HOUSING BUILT. SO HERE I AM, NOT SO FAST. BUT PLEASE HELP US BUILD SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. I'M REALLY HAPPEN THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE THE BEST JOB POSSIBLE IN TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE FUN TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THINGS OUGHT TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BUT THEY'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD START IN TRYING TO COME UP WITH OBJECTIVE STANDARDS THAT YOU CAN CHEW ON AND WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN AVOID THAT KIND OF STANDARDATION OF EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE CITY. >> THANK YOU, GREGORY.

THOMAS ELSE? >> I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WERE JUST MADE. I THINK IT'S GRETA THURMAN THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE AND ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS CIMATE CHANGE, IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSING. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ATTEMPTED TO USE IS WE'RE ORGANIZING TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE IN TERMS OF THE HOUSING IN THE DOWNTOWN. SO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, SPECIFIC PLANS ARE DOING THAT. BUT HERE YOU HAVE THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMENT THAT WAS MADE BY THE PUBLIC WHICH HD TO DO WITH OPEN SPACE AND GREEN AREAS. AND YOU'VE EXEMPTED OUT THE AREA. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

AND WHAT IT DOES NOT DO IS ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE WHICH YOU CAN DO WITHOUT EXEMPTING THE DOWNTOWN BY USING ROOF TOP GARDENS. SOMETIMES IT JUST SLIPS BY. NOT ONLY ARE THEY ROOF TOP GARDENS, YOU CAN HAVE VERTICAL GARDENS AND THESE ARE VERY INNOVATIVE AND VERY AMENABLE PEOPLE THAT APPRECIATE CHANGES AND NOT JUST THE VISIBLE CLIMATE BUT THE TEMPERATURES AND THED OXYGEN ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT CONVENIENT OR SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO. AS THEY LIVE THERE. BUT IF YOU HAVE ROOF TOP GARDENS, IT WOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING. AND HERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THAT. PLEASE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU OR AT LEAST INCLUDE UNTIL YOU CAN REVIEW THAT AS YOU MODIFY YOUR ORDINANCE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, THOMAS, AND DYANE YOU WERE OUT OF THE ROOM WHEN WE CALLED YOU.

WE'RE IN A PUBLIC HEARING, SO ANYBODY CAN TALK AT THIS POINT. DYANE IF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS, NOW IS THE TIME. >> HELLO I'M DUANE I'M FROM THE SONOMA HOUSING ADVOCACY GROUP. IN THIS DCUMENT TODAY, IT POINTS THAT SB35 SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED A SPECIFIED LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY AND ALSO THAT IT SHOULD BE IN FILL. AN AREA WHERE I'M FROM, WE HAVE AN ENDANGERED SPECIES, SOME CURSE IT AND IT'S FEDERAL REGULATION OVERRIDE REGULATIONS. ESSENTIALLY TRIED TO DO A BAIT AND SWITCH AND SAY THAT OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS A PRIERMENT AREA TO TRY TO GET THE HOUSING IN WHICH SHOULD BE NEAR THE DOWNTOWN AND THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS. SO THEY EXTENDED MILES AND MILES. SO YOU HAVE A HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR OVER 60s. YOU'VE BEEN PUMPING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS INTO BHA YOU CALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YOU HVE SOME HOME BUILDERS HERE TODAY, PERHAPS THEY WILL EN LIGHT US HOW WE CAN MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OCCUR TO MEET THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO DURING THE 60 YEARS THAT YOU'VE HAD A HOUSING AUTHORITY AND NOW IT'S WY YOU'RE UNDER THIS NEW LEGISLATION. SO LET'S SAVE, CAN WE BUILD THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA NEAR THE TRANSPORTATION THAT WE ALSO HAVE HAVE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS DOLLARS FOR AND MAKE ALL OF THIS STUFF WORK. NOW THE THING THAT I'M MOST CONCERNED IS THAT YOU AT THE LOCAL LEVEL WILL TRY TO INFILL AND MAKE IT GO INTO THE CITY'S LIMITS SIX MILES AWAY FROM DOWN HERE. SO WE NEED TO HAVE YOUR POLITICAL WILL AND SAY THAT WE HAVE A PLAN THAT WE'RE ALSO FINANCE ANDING WE WANT THE HOUSING DOWN HERE. REALLY. NOT JUST FAR OUT ON BELLEVUE AVENUE WHERE YOU SUNK MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO A PROJECT THAT HAS NOT EVEN BROKEN GROUND AND MIGHT NOT SUCCEED. THANK YOU SIR, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? DO YOU WANT TO PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE, COUNCILMEMBER SAWYER.

>> SURE, I WILL DO THAT. AMENDING SITELE 20 OF THE CITY CODE ADDING CHAPTER 20 THROUGH 39 MUCH CHAPTER DESIGN STANDARD ADMINISTER YAM TO CREATE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, FILE NUMBER RE Z-19 AND WAIVE FURTHER READING. >> SECOND. >> COUNCIL ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? LE COUNCILMEMBER COMBS ARE YOU STILL WITH US? I THINK I HEARD HER DROP OFF. OKAY. COUNCIL YOUR VOTES? OH AND THAT'S RIGHT, IT'S VOICE VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR ROGERS. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER COMBS? I WILL BE MARKING HER AS ABSENT. COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING? >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER OLIVARES. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAWYER? >> AYE. >> ALL RIGHT THAT ITEM WILL PASS WITH FOUR AYE SXZ THREE COUNCILMEMBERS ABSENT. MR. CITY MANAGER ITEM 14.2. >> ITEM 14.2 ADOPTION OF KAWANIS COMMUNITY PARK MASTER PLAN AND COMMUNITY PARK MASTER PLAN.

JANUARY SANTOS DIRECTER OF COMMUNITY PARKS PRESENTING. >> I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING, DID WE GET DISCONNECTED. >> WE'RE ABOUT TO START ITEM 14.2. >> OKAY. SO I MISSED THE VOTE ON THAT ITEM? >> CORRECT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> IT PASSES 4 AYES WITH 3 ABSTENTIONS. >> I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THE ITEM BUT I HAD A QUESTION. SO IT CAN WAIT. >> ALL RIGHT, DIRECTER ITEM 14.2. >> DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR PARKS. WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE ADOPTION OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR KAWANIS SPRING PARK AS THE WELL AS THE DOCUMENTS. SO JUST AS A REMINDER OF WHERE WE'RE LOOKING THE YELLOW ITEM IS THE PARK. RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE. AND WE HAVE A HIGHWAY 101, IN RED. AND HIGHWAY 12 UP HERE AT THE NORTH PART OF THE TOWN. SO THIS PARK IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE CITY. AND TAKING A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK THE YELLOW OUTLINE IS THE PARK PROPER. IT'S 19.2 ACRES, APPROXIMATELY. AND JUST TO GIVE SOME ORIENTATION THIS IS TAYLOR MOUNTAIN REGIONAL PARK HERE WHERE THE HIGHLIGHTER IS.

AND THE PARK IS SPLIT BETWEEN MEETA AVENUE AND KAWANA STRINGS PARK. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THIS IS KAWAN TERRACE ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PARK. THIS WAS DEDICATED TO IN PHASES TO THE CITY IN 2008. IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEE IN THIS SLIDE THAT THERE ARE EXISTING LITIGATION HERE AND HERE THREE OF THEM AND ALSO SOME RETENTION PONDS ON THE SITE ON THIS SIDE OF THE PARK. AND IT'S BISECTED BY KAWANA SPRINGS CREEK. WE HAVE ALL THE PARK IS 20 YEARS, THE USEABLE AEA THAT IS RIGHT HERE IN THE MAIN PART OF THE PARK AS WELL AS OVER HERE, THERE IS A LITTLE PORTION THAT IS USEABLE FOR ACTIVE USES. THE ACTIVE USE IS ABOUT 5 TO 6 ACRES EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A SIX-ACRE PARK SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

WE DO HAVE A WNDERFUL DEDICATED VOLUNTEER GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS THAT HELP US WITH THE PARK. THEY HELP MAINTAIN A RURAL TRAIL AND THEY ALSO CEAN THE CREEK EVERY YEAR TWO TO THREE TIMES A YEAR IN ADDITION TO ALL THINGS THAT ARE WATER DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS OUR PARK MAINTENANCE STAFF AS WELL. SO THEY'RE A REALLY GREAT AND ENGAGED GROUP OF NEIGHBORS IN THIS AREA. SO JUST A REMINDER. THAT INCLUDE THE CITY WIDE CREEK MASTER PLAN AS WELL AS THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN.

OF COURSE OUR 200LE BUSINESS AND STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE GENERAL PLAN WHICH DESIGNATES THIS PARK AS A COMMUNITY PARK FOR THE AREA AND IT'S THE ONLY COMMUNITY PARK FOR TE ENTIRE YAI, THE NEXT WOULD BE GAL VIN. WHICH INCLUDE THREE BORDER COMMUNITY SERVICES. PUBLIC MEETINGS AS WELL. IN BETWEEN THOSE COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS IN 2017 WE ALSO COLLECTED ONLINE INPUT AS WELL. AND THEN IN EACH MEETING, THIS IS AN OVERVIEW WE DID A LOST OUT REACH TO SEE IF WE CAN GET AS MUCH COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE. WE MAILED OVER 6,000 MAILERS OUT TO THE RESIDENT, E BLAST AND FACEBOOK MEDIA AND OUR NEWSLETTERS AND OUR EVENT PAGE POSTED ON NEXT DOOR.COM. WE ALSO HAD CALENDAR LISTINGS OF UPCOMING MEETINGS AND WE HAD NOTIFICATION ON EACH PARK SITE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE ENDED UP OF THE SAME SLIDES TO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT WE BEGAN WITH THE COMMUNITY. THE FIRST TIME WE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WE GAVE THEM A MAP THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN. WHICH HIGHLIGHTS THE PARK IN KIND OF A PINK COLOR THERE IN THE MIDDLE. AND AROUND IT, WHAT SORT OF AMENITIES ARE WITHIN THE PARKS. AND OF COURSE WE DID OUR TRADITIONAL DOT EXERCISE AND TOOK COMMENT CARDS SO PEOPLE CAN WRITE OUT DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE AMENITIES THEY PREFER IN THE PARK. SO THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN THE FIRST THREE MEETINGS. AND TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY, THIS IS AFTER OUR FIRST MEET ING, IT'S OUR SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING.

SO WE FIRST GATHERED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF AMENITIES THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE AND WE PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT. SO I'M GOING TO START OFF TO THE EAST OF THE PARK. WE HAD A PARK AND RESTROOM IN DOG PARK OVER HERE. AN AREA, WE IDENTIFIED EXISTING PARALLEL PARKING ALONG KAWANA SPRING ROAD. WE IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL FOR PICNIC AREAS AROUND A BIG OAK TREE THAT IS THERE IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

WE IDENTIFIED A YELLOW WHICH IS OUR TRAIL, OUR PATH. AND WE ALSO DIDN'T PHYSICALLY IDENTIFY BUT WE IDENTIFIED IT BY LABEL THE DRAINAGE AREAS THAT WERE IN THIS AREA. WE IDENTIFIED THIS LINE AS A POTENTIAL TRAIL. AS WELL AS A PEDESTRIAN OVERLOOK BRIDGE OVER THAT WILL CONNECT YOU FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER. THERE IS RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE CUT THROUGH THE CREEK. SO THERE IS A DESIRE TO HAVE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THERE. THE ABSOLUTE NUMBER ONE AND CONTINUES TO BE THE NUMBER ONE REQUESTED ITEM FOR THIS COMMUNITY WAS THE DOG PARK AND IT'S LOCATED IN THIS AREA.

OF COURSE OUR SHADE SHELTER IN SHADE PAVILION SO THAT WOULD BE A SHADE WITH PICNIC UNDERNEATH. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY LARGE PLAYGROUND THAT YOU CAN SEE AT FINELY COMMUNITY CENTER. A RESTROOM, BOTCH' COURTS AND A PARKING AREA SO WE CAN GET FOLKS. WE DO ANTICIPATE BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMUNITY PARK THAT FOLKS WOULD BE DRIVING TO THE PARK, THEY WOULD BE STAYING LONGER THAN 45 MINUTES TO ENJOY AN ACTIVITY.

SO IT'S NOT A QUICK SOP IT'S MORE OF AN EXTENDED STAY. AND OF COURSE LARGE TURF AREA, AND I SAY LARGE, IT'S NOT LARGE NUMBER TO HAVE ANY SPORTS FIELD. IT'S RELATIVELY SMALL. IT'S NOT VERY LARGE. SO FROM THERE, WHICH WENT TO THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AND THE PUBLIC MEETING AND THERE IS MORE FEEDBACK TO GET MORE DETAILS FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. AND WHAT WE HAD CHANGED ON HERE IS WE'VE, HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE, POTENTIALLY SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS SO WE ADDED THOSE IN THERE. WE ALSO CHANGED, I THINK WE CHANGED THE WAY THAT BOTCHY COURTS WERE LAID OUT BUT OTHERWISE THEY WERE IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA. AND LET'S SEE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT EVERYTHING. WE ALSO ADDED ANOTHER SHADE PAVILION THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.

IT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL AREA TO WALK BY THERE. SO THEY WANTED THAT. AND THEN WE ALSO, ADDED THE COMMUNITY GARDEN HERE. THIS WAS A REQUEST. THERE WAS EXISTING COMMUNITY DPAERND AT A LOCAL SCHOOL. NEXT TO A FUTURE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. AND THOSE THAT COMMUNITY GARDEN GROUP HAD TO VACATE THE SPACE AND THEY IDENTIFIED THIS AS A POTENTIAL GARDEN AREA SO. WE ADDED THAT IN THERE. WE ALSO ADDED A LITTLE BIT MORE PICNICKING, SMALLER PICNIC SITES ON HERE ALONG AS IN THE TRAIL. AND THOSE ARE THE MAJOR CHANGES SINCE WE FIRST STARTED TO THIS PLAN. SO WE WENT TO FEEDBACK AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY WE IDENTIFIED THE EXISTING, WATER DEPARTMENTS, WATER PUMP STATION THAT WAS ONSITE JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO USE FOR AN AMENITY. WE ASO, LET'S SEE WE CHANGED THE SHAPE TO BE MORE AND WHAT WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT END UP WITH HERE ON A COMMUNITY GARDEN BECAUSE OF THE CREEK SETBACK.

SO WE MADE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. ALSO ADDED, TABLE TENNIS IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE BUT IT'S THERE. ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT I ALSO ENGAGE WITH AND FORGOT TO MENTION WAS THE SONOMA ACADEMY. THEY'RE AT THE END OF KAWANA SPRING ROAD. AND I MET WITH THEM AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR. AND THE STUDENTS DID DYORAMA AND THEY TALKED ABOUT TABLE TENNIS AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT OF MEETING WITH THEM. THOSE ARE THE MAJOR CHANGES THERE. SO IN 2018 COUNCIL APPROVED AN AGREEMENT AND WE BROUGHT THE PROFESSIONALS IN TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE AND THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SCALE. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ELIZABETH FROM GSM AND ASSOCIATION WHO DID WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESSES. AND J.D. POWERS WAS DOING SOME INITIAL WORK BEHIND THE PLAN, THE PREVIOUS PLAN THAT THEY HAD SEEN TO START GETTING INTO THE IDEA OF WHAT IMPACTS THERE WOULD BE.

AT THE END OF THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESSES IS WHEN POWERS WAS FINALLY ABLE TO SAY, LET'S LOOK AT THE WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE. LET ME TURN IT OVER TO ELIZABETH. >> HELLO EVERYONE. AS JANUARY WAS SAYING, WE WERE BROUGHT ON THIS PROJECT AT THE END OF 2016. AND THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS BRING THE SURVEY CREW OUT TO DETERMINE WHERE THE BANK WAS SITUATED. WE LOCATED THE HERITAGE TREES, THE LARGE TREES, ANY TREES OVER SIX-INCH CALIBER ARE LOCATED ONLY THE PLAN AND WE OF COURSE WITH THE TOPOGRAPHIC CAN DETERMINE HOW THE UPS AND DOWN OF THE PATH WILL NEED TO GO. SO THIS INFORMATION ALLOWED US TO TAKE THE PROGRAM ELEMENTS THAT JAN SPOKE ABOUT AND DRAFT THEM UP TO SCALE AND PLACE THEM ON THE PLAN. AND I WILL START LIKE JEN DID ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE WITH THE COMMUNITY GARDEN. ONE OF THE CHANGES WE MADE IS WE MADE THE PARKING AREA JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER AND ALLOWED GREATER, PLOTS, GARDEN PLOTS THAT COULD BE USED BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE MENTIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. THEN WE WERE ABLE TO ACCURATELY LAYOUT THE PATHWAY WITH THE TO PO GRAPHIC THAT WE HAD.

WE NOTED WHERE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A CROSSWALK THERE. WE TALKED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRAFFIC ABOUT LOOKING INTO POSSIBLY TURN INTOING THAT A FUTURE CROSSWALK. THEN WE BROUGHT THE PATHS DOWN AND WERE ABLE TO STAY OUTSIDE OF THE TOP OF THE CREEK BANK AND ALSO AVOID HAVING THE PATH RUN THROUGH EXISTING WATER MANAGEMENT LOCATIONS. THE PARALLEL PARK THATING IS ON KAWANA SPRING ROAD, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT TWO NEW PATH WAYS. THERE IS ONE HERE THAT CONNECTS TO THE PATH. AND THEN THE PARALLEL PARKING THERE IS ONE THAT CONNECTS TO THE PATH TL.

SO AS YOU WALK ALONG THE PATH HERE, YOU COME DOWN TO THE WEST SIDE WHERE THE BRIDGE IS. AND AGAIN THE TOPO GRAPHIC SURVEY INFORMED US HOW LONG THAT BRIDGE NEEDS TO BE. THAT WILL NEED TO BE ABOUT 50 FEET LONG. IT COMES IN ONE STRUCTURE AND BEING ABLE TO SPEND TOP OF BANK ON TOP OF BANK WILL LESSEN ANY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT MIGHTING CAUSED. THE KAWANA TERRACE RIGHT ALONG HERE, THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THE PARKING ALONG THIS AREA.

ALSO ERODING THE TOP OF THE CREEK BANK BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY NARROW AREA AND CARS ARE HEAVY AND SLOPES GO DOWN. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT SOME PARKING DETERRENTS IN THE WAYS OF LARGE BOULDERS. I THINK CITIES HAVE SEVERAL AREAS THAT THEY HAVE INCORPORATED. SO FOUR FOOT BY FOUR FOOT BY FOUR FOOT TALL AND SPACED NO MORE THAN SIX FETA PART WILL HELP TO PRESERVE THE CREEK BANK. THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO THE MAIN ACTIVITY OF THE PARK WHERE JEN HAD MENTIONED, ABOUT 5 ACRES AND WE TOOK THE PROGRAM FROM THE 2015 PLANS AND DEVELOPED THE DOG PARK WHICH IS THE DOG BROWN RIGHT HERE. AND THIS IS THE CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA WHERE IT WAS BEFORE.

AND TABLE TENNIS IS RIGHT IN HERE. AND THE VOLLEYBALL COURT IS MOVED OVER HERE. ONE THING IS WE PULLED THE TURF, THE MULTI TURF AREA OUT OF THE LOCATION OF THE ACTIVITIES. IT'S EASIER TO MAINTAIN THE TURF THAT WAY. THE PICNIC AEA ACROSS THE TURF STAYED IN PLACE. WE DID NOT PUT AN ADDITIONAL AREA HERE BECAUSE WE FELT IT WOULD BE TOO CLOSE TO THE CREEK BED AFTER THE SURVEY WAS DONE. WE TOOK THIS PLAN TO THE COMMUNITY AT THE END OF MAY AND WE GOT FEEDBACK DURING THAT MEETING AND WE ALSO GOT FEEDBACK THROUGH THE CITY WEBSITE AND THE FACEBOOK PAGE SOCIAL MEDIA. SO WE GATHERED ALL THAT INFORMATION UP AND THEN WE DEVELOPED THE NEXT PLAN WHICH WE HAVE IN JUNE. AND I'LL START AGAIN FR THE COMMUNITY GARDEN SIDE, THEY WANTED LESS PARKING THAN WHAT WE SHOWED. THEY WANTED A LOST GARDEN SPACE.

WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE PARKING AREA TO JUST UNDER SIX SPACES INCLUDING A VAN PARKING SPACE FOR A D.A. THE PATHWAY ALONG THE NORTH, STAYED WHERE IT WAS. AVOIDING THE TOP CREEK AND THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AREAS. THE BRIDGE THERE ON THE, WHERE DID THAT GO? ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE AND MOST WERE IN THE ACTIVE USE AREA OVER HERE. ONE OF THE MOST COMMENTS WE GOT WAS WERE TO SEPARATE THE PLAY AREA FROM THE DOG PARK.

AND GET IT CLOSER TO THE TURF AREA AND TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE TRAFFIC, BECAUSE IT WAS RIGHT THERE ALONG KAWNA TERRACE. SO WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE AREA OVER TO THIS AREA. AND IT CAN THEN EXPAND AND GET LARGER. WE HAVE EQUIPMENTS FOR TWO TO FIVE YEARS OLD AND THEN EQUIPMENT FROM 5 TO 12 YEARS OLD. AND WE MOVED THE TABLE TENNIS AND BECAUSE WE LIKED THE SHADE STRUCTURE, WITH THE PLAY EQUIPMENT WE MOVED THOSE ALSO.

YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A NICE CIRCULAR AND THE STRUCTURE FOLLOWED THAT ARC AND THEY FOLLOWED THE PLAY AREA. THERE IS A LITTLE BLUE SCARE IN THERE AND THAT REMAINS IN THE SAME LOCATION AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY AND IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA WHICH IS IT'S TIMES IMPORTANT TO GET THERE QUICKLY. SOME OF THE WRITE IN COMMENTS WAS THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PUMP TRACK SIMILAR TO WHAT IS AT NORTHWEST PARK WITH THE BICYCLES. SO IT ACTUALLY FIT QUITE NICELY. SO THERE IS A PUMP THERE AND THIS IS A DRAW TO THE COMMUNITY PARK. THE VOLLEYBALL AREA BECAUSE IT'S SAND VOLLEYBALL, WE MOVED IT BACK INTO THE MULTI TURF AREA THAT WAS STILL, REQUEST TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF LAWN BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT LAWNS TAKE. AND ALSO WE CREATED THE SHAPE OF THE LAWN THAT HELPS REDUCE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN PLAY A SOCCER GAME ON THE TURF.

THERE IS ALSO ALARGE PAVILLION IN THE CENTER OF THE PAVED AREA WHICH WILL ACCOMMODATE LARGER GROUPS OF 20 TO 25 PEOPLE TO COME AD HAVE A GROUP ACTIVITY IN THE PARK. THEN WE DEVELOPED A SECOND STRUCTURE OVER HERE BY THE OAK TREE BECAUSE WE TOOK IT OUT NEXT TO THE CREEK. SO WE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL ONE OVER HERE. ANOTHER THING TO NTE IS THAT THE PATHWAY THAT COMES AROUND, THE TURF AREA, IS ABOUT QUARTER MILE. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK YOUR FITNESS AS YOU WALK AROUND THERE. AND THEN THE PATHWAY THAT GES FROM THE COMMUNITY GAERND ALL THE WAY THROUGH HERE, PAST THE STORM WATER AND MANAGEMENT AREAS DOWN ALONG HERE TO THE BRIDGE, FWHAZ HALF A MILE. SO THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TAT YOU CAN MEASURE THE FITNESS LEVELS. SO WE TOOK THIS PLAN AT THE END OF JUNE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY TO LISTEN TO THEIR FEEDBACK, SEE HOW THEY LIKE THE CHANGES. AND AGAIN IT GOT POSTED ON THE WEBSITES AND WE GOT THE SOCIAL MEDIA. ONE THING THAT WE ADDED IN THIS PARK SECTION WAS A BASKETBALL COURT. NOW MOST COMMUNITY COURTS HAVE A A PARK. THIS ONE, WE DID CREATE A HALF HIGHS BASKETBALL COURT THAT IS SEPARATED FROM MEETA AVENUE AND THEN YU HAVE THE STREET AND THEN THE HOUSES AFTER THAT.

THERE IS ALSO SEVERAL TREES THAT ARE NESTLED IN. THIS WAS BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM JUNE. AND THE MAJOR COMMENTS FROM JUNE WAS THE NOISE FOM THE BASKETBALL COURT. WE FELT BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMUNITY PARK AND IT'S FOR A LARGER AREA OF SANTA ROSA TO COME, TIS IS ONE OF THE BIG DRAWS THAT BRING PEOPLE TO THE PARK. AND THE MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE COMING TO THE PARK, THE LESS PROBLEMS HAVE. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED AND ACTIVE AND INVOLVED. SO WE DID KEEP THE HALF COATER BASKETBALL IN THE SITE. THE ANOTHER ELEMENTS THAT WE CHANGED, WE HAD THE FITNESS EQUIPMENT ALONG THE PATH UP HERE ON THE NORTH OF THE CREEK. SO THE NORTH SITE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THE NATURAL ASPECT OF THIS PARK.

SO THIS WAS TAKEN TO THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY SERVICE SOUTH SIDE IN AUGUST. AND WE PRESENTED THERE AND IT WAS APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. AND AFTER THAT, THE PLAN WENT TO WILL TO REVIEW WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY. >> I JUST WANTED FOLLOW-UP ABOUT THE PLAN. WE HAD A AN ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY GROUP WHO IS INTERESTED IN MAINTAINING THIS AS WELL AS DEVELOPING IT SIMILAR TO NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PARK WHICH IS "HUGE HELP TO OUR PARK THERE AND THEY DO A LOT OF VOLUNTEER WORK LIKE THAT AS WELL. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO WILL. THIS WAS A, VERY SIMILAR TO MANY COMMUNITIES. A VERY WE FOUND SOME COMMON GROUND. NOT EVERYBODY AGREES. THERE WERE FOLKS THAT WANTED NOTHING TL. THERE IS ALWAYS FOLKS WHO WANTED NOTHING THERE.

AND OTHERS THAT WANTED FULLY DEVELOPED WITH SPORTS AND LIGHTS AND BICYCLE VALID DRONE AND ALL KINDS OF BICYCLE TRACKS WERE ENVISIONED. BUT THE COMMUNITY ROLLED UP THEIR SLEEVES AND WORKED HARD AND CAME TOGETHER WITH THIS PLAN. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO WILL WHO TOOK THIS PLAN AND WILL THE ANALYSIS. >> AS MENTIONED, WE ASSISTED WITH THE MASTER PLAN. THAT PROCESS REALLY BEGAN IN ERNEST AFTER APPROVAL OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. IT GENERALIZED ALL THE IMPACTS THAT COULD RESULT FROM THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MASTER PLAN. >> CAN YOU BRING YOUR MICROPHONE. >> SORRY. WILL BURNS WITH DAVID POWERS AND CHOKESER.

SO WE LOOKED AT THE ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN THE CEQA CHECKLIST. THE PRIME AIR FOCUS FOR THIS LOCATION WAS ON BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES CULTURAL RESOURCES, TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS AND ALSO CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS INCLUDING AIR QUALITY AND NOISE. SO IN TERMS TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS. AND REVIEWED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE EVENING PEEK HOUR AND ALSO THE WEEK AND MIDDAY WEEK HOUR UNDER BOTH CONDITIONS, THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE WITH THE CITY LEVEL'S POLICIES. THE OTHER PRIMARY AREAS OF CONCERN WERE BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES. AND NESTING BIRDS AND THAT WERE MITIGATED ON WHEN THEY CAN BE CONCERNED. OUTSIDE OF 24 HOURS OF ANY SUBSTANTIAL RAIN. AND IN TERMS OF THE ROOSTING BATS AND NESTING BIRDS, PRECONSTRUCTION SURVEY RIGHT SIDE REQUIRED WITHIN TREES THAT MIGHT BE WITHIN GRADING OF THE SITE AND THE REQUIREMENT TO BATS AND/OR AVOID AREAS WHERE THERE ARE ACTIVENESS.

OTHERWISE, CONSTRUCTION PERIOD IMPACTS WERE THE PRIMARY FOCUS FOR NOISE, MEASURES INCLUDED TO LOCATE GRADING EQUIPMENT AND OTHER HEAVY NOISE GENERATING USES AWAY FROM SENSITIVE USES AS WELL AS, INCLUDING A DISTURBANCE COORDINATING THAT WOULD BE CONTACTED IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE NOISE COMPLAINTS. AND THE PRODUCT ALSO INCORPORATED STANDARD MEASURES RECOMMENDED BY BACKMED TO ADDRESS POTENTIAL DUST. IN TERMS OF CULTURE RESOURCES, THERE ARE CULTURE RESOURCES IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE PARK AND THOSE WERE DESIGNED AROUND AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN. SO ITEMS OF INTENT TO ADOPT THE MITIGATION NEGATIVE DECLARATION WHICH INCLUDES THESE MEASURES WAS POSTED WITH THESE COUNTY CLERK ON APRIL 10 FOR A 30-DAY REVIEW PERIOD.

DNV INCLUDED THAT ALL IMPACT WOULD BE REDUCED WITH THE CORPORATION OF MITIGATION MEASURES AND OTHER STANDARDS REQUIREMENT AND CITY STANDARDS. SO THE INITIAL NEGATIVE DECLARATIONS HAVE BEEN PREPARED IN CONSULTATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. ALL FUTURE ACTIONS RELATED TO IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MASTER PLAN ARE COVERED. AND UPON COUNCIL APPROVAL, A NOTICE OF DETERMINATION WILL BE FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK AND STATE CLEARING HOUSE FOR A 30-DAY PERIOD.

>> THANK YOU, WILL. I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON, I RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS ABOUT TRASH AND THE CREEK RECENTLY BEFORE WE CAME TO COUNCIL AS WELL AS PARKING ON KAWANA TERRACE. WE WORK WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT VERY CLOSELY. THE WATER DEPARTMENT IN TURN WORKS WITH LAND HAS WHO TAKES MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE CREEK RESTORATION AS WELL AS CLEAN UP DAYS. WATER DEPARTMENT STAFF SAY THEY'RE OUT THERE AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR. OUR STAFF ARE OUT THERE QUITE OFTEN. AND I ALSO WANTED TO REMIND YOU OF COMMUNITY GROUPS. THEY DO A LOT OF HARD WORK CLEANING THE SYSTEM AT THE PARK. THIS COMMUNITY HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY. WITH THAT IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PUBLIC DIVISION THAT PARKS DIVISION THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE MITIGATION MITIGATED DECLARATION AND MASTER PLAN FOR KAWANA'S CREEKS COMMUNITY PARK TO INCLUDE GARDEN, RESTROOM, EN CLUES YOU'RE, SHADE PVILION, CHILDREN PLAY AREA FOR CHILDREN 2 TO 5 AND 2 TO 12 AND DG PARK A BICYCLE PUMP TRACK, HALF BASKETBALL COURT, TABLE TENNIS, MULTI TURF AREA, A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE CROSSWALK AND A LOOP WALKING PATH.

THANK YOU. >> DEPUTY DIRECTOR, COUNCIL? ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. WHERE DOT TABLE TENNIS, WHERE DO THE TABLES GO ETHER AT NIGHT OR WINTER? I DIDN'T SEE A STORAGE, I ASSUME IT'S IN THE BACK. >> TABLE TENNIS EQUIPMENT THAT WE FOUND IS STEFSH' AND HEAVY AND IT'S PERMANENT. SO YOU BRING YOUR NET AND PADDLES.

AND YOU PLAY PING-PONG ALL DAY LONG. SO YOU DON'T MOVE THEM AND THEY'RE REALLY COOL LOOKING. >> THAT LEADS TO THE NEXT QUESTION. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE AS FAR AS ACTIVITY, ONE OF THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE PARTS THAT I'VE SEEN SUGGESTED IN QUITE SOMETIME. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE. ARE THERE VOLUNTEERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB IN HELPING TO DESIGN THIS? ARE THEY GOING TO BE MAINTAINED AND MONITORED BY THE BUSINESS OUR CON TERFUL VOLUNTEERS? >> WE'RE ALWAYS ACTIVELY SEEKING VOLUNTEERS.

AND IF THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. WE DO HAVE SIMILAR EQUIPMENT IN THEIR PARK AND OTHER PARKS IN THEIR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE DESIGNED TO TAKE PUBLIC ENVIRONMENT. SO THEY TAKE LITTLE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENT, THEY'RE JUST THERE REPAIRING THINGS THAT BREAK FROM TIME TO TIME. THEY'RE HOLDING UP WELL AT BEAR PARK FOR INSTANCE. ONE OF THE THINGS I DID, I'M GOING TO TAG ON TO THIS AND I FORGOT ABOUT OUR FUNDING.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A PLAN, THERE IS ABOUT 900,000 AVAILABLE TO DEVELOP THIS PARK. THE PARK IS ESTIMATE TODAY COST ABOUT 19 MILLION TO DEVELOP. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING POETSINGERS BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUND TO GO DEVELOP THE ENTIRE PARK. BUT WE'LL LOOK FOR WELL-BUILT EQUIPMENT THAT STANDS THE TEST OF TIME. >> IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, ALTHOUGH WE MAY BE ENJOY THE BENEFIT BROUGHT BY VOLUNTEERS ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE PARK AS IT IS ANY OF OUR PARKS. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS. >> IF YOU. ONE QUESTION I HAD IS RELATED TO THE PUMP TRACK. IT'S MAINTAINED BY DED INDICATED NOT JUST A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS BUT A BONA FIDE NONPROFIT WHICH GIVES IT A HIGHER LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. AND AS YOU KNOW, WHEN IF COMES TO PUMP TRACK IT'S REALLY MAINTENANCE INTENSIVE, IS IT THE SAME AS NORTHWEST.

>> IT'S ACTUALLY A DIFFERENT GROUP. IT'S MORE OF A GROUP THAT LOOKS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA FOR THESE OPPORTUNITIES BUT WE WOULD LOOK FOR A LOCAL ORGANIZATION. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WILL MAINTAIN BY IT SELF. WE DO THIS IN PARTNERSHIP AT NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PARK AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LOOK FOR HERE AS WELL. >> WHO IS THE GROUP IN CALIFORNIA THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH. >> I DON'T HAVE THE NAME BUT I CAN GIVE THE NAME THAT I WAS WORKING WITH. WE DO HAVE THE SME LOCAL INTEREST FROM THIS GROUP AS WELL. IT'S JUST THE CALIFORNIA GROUP CALLED ME FIRST. SO WE WOULD LOOK LOCALLY TO HAVE IT HAVE THE LOCAL GROUP BE INTERESTED AND HELP US DEVELOP THAT AND MAINTAIN IT IN THE FUTURE.

YOU KNOW IT WULD BE SIMILAR LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID. IT CALLSED BACK TO THE CITY FOR MAINTENANCE. IT WOULD STILL BE MAINTAINED. >> THANKS GENERAL. >> CUNCILMEMBER FLEMING? >> THANK YOU. I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW I'M GLAD THAT PART OF THE MND WERE PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION. I'M WONDERING IF YOU KNOW WHAT BUS OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN CHANGE NOW AND THE WAY FUTURE. I WANT PEOPLE TO GET THERE ON THE BUS IF THEY CAN. THE CLOSEST BUS STOP IS WITHIN A QUARTER TO HALF MILE OF THE PARK BOUNDARY. >> CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC. >> THE CLOSEST BUS STOP AT PATLUMA I'M NOT CERTAIN WHAT THE HEAD WAYS BUT THAT BUS STOP IS WITHIN A QUARTER TO HALF A MILE OF THIS PARK LOCATION. SO IT DOES PROVIDE DECENT ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO WALK TO THE PARK. >> AND HOW MANY TABLE TENNIS TABLE WILL BE OUT THERE. BECAUSE I IMAGINE I'LL BE RETIRED BY THE TIME THIS IS BUILD.

>> RIGHT NOW THERE ARE TWO LOCATED IN THE MASTER PLAN. BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS FURTHER, IF THERE IS A LOT OF PARTICIPATION AND INTEREST IN IT, THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR MORE. >> I DON'T THERE WOULD BE CONFLICTS O PEOPLE PLAYING ALL DAY LONG. THANK YOU. GREAT JOBS. >> COUNCILMEMBER COMBS MY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. MY QUESTIONS WERE ALREADY ASKED. AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR WHAT APPEARS TO BE A VERY EFFECTIVE AND INTENSE PROCESS. SO GET US THROUGH THIS FINAL DESIGN. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO OPEN OUR PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL START WITH DYANE DEWITT FOLLOWED BY ARLENE. >> I DID NOT ACTIVELY SEEK TO VOLVE ANY SELF IN THIS KAWANA SPRINS BUSINESS. IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT'S A SPECIFIC THING. SO I'M NOT HERE TO PERHAPS, TRY TO INFLUENCE THIS PLAN I'M HERE TO THANK MR. SAWYER FOR ASKING WHAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CITY? THIS IS A BIG 19 MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT AND YET IT HAS A PORTABLE TOILET. BEAR FARM HAS BEEN MENTIONED HERE COME OF TIMES AND THAT WAS IN MY COMMUNITY AND I WAS IN THE STIRRING COMMITTEE FOR THAT PARK.

WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE BUILDING A PERMANENT RESTROOM THERE, THEY DID. IT'S LOCKED. AFTER TWO YEARS OF ITS DEDICATION, PEOPLE ARE STILL USING PORT A POLIES. THAT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH HAZARD. PORT-A-POTTIES NOT THERE FOR A LONG TERM. SO I'M HOPING THAT TONIGHT YOU'LL GT THE ANSWERS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE USE OF PORT-A-POTTIES IN A LARGE COMMUNITY PARK WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TO COME TO FOR A LONG TIME. THAT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. ANOTHER ISSUE THAT IS VERY SAOER YU, ON SLIDE 9, SHE TALKS, I SHOULD SAY MS. SANTOS TALKED B THE FIRST A WAS DOTTED EXERCISE. AND THEN SLIDE 9POINTS OUT OKAY IN 2015, WE CAME UP WITH THIS. AND DOT EXERCISES CAN BE MANIPULATED AND YOU DON'T HAVE A BALANCE.

AND IT DOES NOT REFLECT HOW YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE. SO I THINK WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TONIGHT IS FOR WHAT, 2015 TO 2019 CAME UP WITH. THEY SAID THAT THIS COMMUNITY DECIDE ON IT. THAT'S GREAT. WHAT WE'LL NEED IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT COMMITMENT OF THOSE VOLUNTEERS. BECAUSE A LOST TIMES, THEY'RE GOING TO FADE AWAY. AND YOU'RE GOING ON THE HOOK, I SHOULD REPHRASE THAT, THE TAXPAYER ARE GOING TO BE ON THE HOOK FOR THE COST AND YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROI VIEED FOR SOUTH COMMUNITY PARK WHICH YOU HAD FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND A PLACE TO PLAY FOR OVER 20 YEARS. AND YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE THINGS. SO HERE YOU ARE READY TO MAKE A ANOTHER FINANCIAL COMMITMENT AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. SO ANSWER TE MR. SAWYER'S QUESTION, WHAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CITY WHEN YOU DON'T ENOUGH DOUGH. >> THANK YOU. >> YES HELLO. ARLENE. IF MY OF YOU HEARD ROOSTER CROW, I'M SORRY. IT WAS MY PHONE.

I KNOW ROOSTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN SANTA ROSA CITY. GOOD EVENING, LOCAL AND WORLDWIDE, CITY COUNCIL. I'M A COMMUNITY GARDEN MANAGER AND I REALLY LOVE THIS PARK. AND THE FACT THAT IT HAS A COMMUNITY GARDEN. AND I CANNOT TELL YOU THE VALUE OF WHAT IS BEING DONE HERE. BECAUSE THIS AREA, SOUTHEAST SANTA ROSA, IS REALLY A NICE AREA, LOW INCOME, A LOT OF IT. BUT THERE ARE SOME HIGHSER INCOME HOUSES. I THINK THIS PARK WILL ATTRACT ALMOST EVERYONE FROM THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM GETTING THERE RIGHT NOW. A LOT OF PEOPLE GO UP TO THE TELLER MOUNTAIN REGIONAL FLT THIS IS CLOSE. SO IT'S A REALLY GOOD DRAW. AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT IT'S BEING PROPOSED. AND I HOPE IT GETS PASSED AND APPROVED. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH WITH THE MEETINGS AND THE DIFFERENT AMENITIES AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL GO TO EACH ONE OF THESE. I'VE BEEN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 88. AND I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS PARK FR ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS. IS HAD THAT KAWANA COMMUNITY GARDEN OVER AT THE KAWANA SCHOOL WE HAD THAT FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS. AND THEN THE SCHOOL WANTED HAVE A PRESCHOOL COMPLEX. SO WE HAD TO MOVE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THAT GARDEN WENT OVER TO THE SOUTH PARK COMMUNITY GARDEN AND I ALSO MANAGED AND THEY'RE WAITING FOR THIS TO COME BACK.

SO THEY CAN AND ONE OF OUR MAJOR GARDENS, LIVED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT, SO I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT. AND I WANT TO THANK JAN SANTOs FOR STICKING TO THIS. MY NAME IS SPELLED WRONG GUYS. I NOTICE UP THERE, IT'S SPELLED WRONG. SO ANYWAY, PLEASE APPROVE THIS. AND I THINK THAT IT WILL REALLY BENEFIT CLIMATE CHANGE FOR ONE. ANYTHING TO DO WITH PRESERVING THE HEALTH OF THE SOIL IS IMPORTANT. OKAY, THANKS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. CARLA FOLLOWED BY KEN RA HOLMES. CARLA? OKAY. KENDRA HOLMES FOLLOWED BY MARY ANNE WAIT FIELD. >> KENDRA HOLMES, MY HOME IS ON MEETA WHICH IS THE WEST PART OF THE PARK.

RIGHT NOW IF YOU FOLLOW KAWANA SPRINGS ALL THE WAY TO TAYLOR. YOU CAN SEE THE HOMELESS RVs THAT PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER AND YOU CAN SEE DRUG DEALS AND PROSTITUTION. IT'S A MAJOR ISSUE. I CALL ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THE POLICE DON'T COME. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT THESE ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE A PART OF THE PARK AND NOBODY IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, KENDRA. MARY ANNE FOLLOWED — ~>> HI, I LIVE RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF MEETA AND KAWANA SPRINGS AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS. I RETIRED IN THIS AREA. AND MY CONCERN IS THIS THIS PARK. I'VE BEEN TO THE MEETINGS THAT IS COULD ATTEND. THE VERY FIRST ONE WHERE ALL THE DOTS WERE PROCESSED.

TO ME WAS CONFUSING. WE HAD A GROUP OF PEOPLE THERE ATTENDING THAT MEETING AND THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD FREE RANGE FOR WHAT THIS PARK IS SUPPOSE TO BE INCORPORATING. THERE IS PLANS ON THE AGENDA THAT DO NOT NEED TO BE TL. THERE IS NO NEED FOR PLACES FOR PICNIC BENCHES. I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE CALLED THE POLICE OUT, WATCHING SOMEBODY HOMELESS PARK IN EITHER OF THE FRONT OF MY HOME OR ACROSS THE STREET WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PARK EITHER HOMELESS, TEENAGE KIDS SMOKING POT, DOING DRUGS. I HAVE BEEN WOKEN UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WANDERING AROUND THERE PLAYING ON DRUMS AND WE DON'T HAVE A PARK THERE. THEY'RE ACCESSING THE PARK AREA FROM KAWANA SPRINGS OR WALKING DOWN MEETA AND EVEN THE REVIEW OF THE IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY, I'M REALLY CURIOUS SINCE THAT WAS DONE. WAS THAT DONE PRIOR TO ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT ALREADY TAKEN PLACE OR TAKEN PLACE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS RIGHT ON KAWANA SPRINGS IN PATALUMA HILLS AND EVEN NOW MORE STRUCTURES THAT ARE BEING UP.

THAT IS ALL GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT. I CALL THE POLICE PERIODICALLY. I CALL THEM MORE TO BE HONEST BUT 90% OF TIME THAT ICALL ON SOMEBODY, I'M AFRAID THAT THEY SAW ME AND I'M AFRAID THAT IF A POLICE OFFICER SHOWS UP, THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW I'M THE ONE THAT CALLED. I SEE YOUR KIDS GOING UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE. I SEE THEM, THEY WERE ROBBED. I FOUND AWALLET THAT DID NOT BELONG TO ANYTHING. STOLEN THINGS. SO THEY GO UNDER THERE. EVEN A CELL PHONE THAT BELONGED TO AN OFFICER. I PICKED UP THE CELL PHONE AND MADE THE PHONE CLL, IRONICALLY, THE PERSON DID NOT LOCK THEIR PHONE BUT IT WS A SANTA ROSA POLICE OFFICER AND SAID, THANK YOU THAT IT'S SITTING HERE. WE HAD A ROBBERY DOWNTOWN SANTA ROSA AND THE ROBBER ENDED UP TAKING MY PHONE.

SO WHERE DID THEY GO? IN MY FRONT YARD. SO I DON'T WANT TO SEE A BIG PARK THERE. IT'S DANGEROUS. [BUZZARD] >> THANK YOU MARY ANNE. LINDA? >> I'M LIKELY DEAF SO MY SPEECH MAY NOT BE CLEAR. I HOPE YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME. THE REASONS THAT I'M INTERESTED IN THIS PARK, IS KIND OF UNUSUAL. I'VE BEEN REALLY LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON YOUR EARTHQUAKE PREPAREDNESSNESS IN THIS CITY SINCE I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE. I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR FIVE YEARS. THE FIRES MADE ME MORE INTERESTED. WE HAVE NOT HAD A MAJOR EARTHQUAKE AND ONE IS COMING. AND I HAVE WATER AND THEY SAY THAT IT MAY BE UP TO SIX WEEKS BEFORE WE HAVE HELP FROM OUTSIDE WHEN A MAJOR EARTHQUAKE HAPPEN. I LOOK A THE SAWYER SITUATION THERE AND I THINK ABOUT THE ELECTRIC KNIT, WHAT IF THE ELECTRICITY IS DOWN, HOW WILL WE GET WATER.

FOR MY PROPERTY, I CANNOT STORE SIX WEEKS OF WATER. I DON'T VERY MANY PEOPLE WHO EVEN HAVE A COME OF DAYS WORTH OF WATER. WE HAVE SO MUCH WATER RIGHT UNDERNEATH US EVERYWHERE WE GO THAT IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT WE DON'T HAVE PUMP STATIONS AT OUR PARK THAT CAN BE IMAGINE WATER IF WE NEED IT. WE DN'T HAVE THE POWER OR ANY BACK UP TO GIVE US THAT WATER WE NEED. MOST OF US WILL HAVE THE FOOD WE NEED. BUT WE WILL NOT HAVE THE WATER WE NEED.

IT WOULD BE VERY EASY IF IN EVERY PARK WE HAVE A PUMP STATION HAND MANUAL HAND STATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET WATER IF THEY NEED IT. SO IT'S A WONDERFUL PARK. I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB AND THEY NEED TO ADD ONE MORE THING TO IT. AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE MAY NEED TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY, BUT I TELL YOU IF WE EVER DO NEED IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE SO THANKFUL IF SOMEBODY PUTS THAT SMALL FUNDING IN THERE. IT WOULD NOT COST THAT MUCH TO PUT PUMPING STATIONS IN OUR PARK FOR THAT KIND OF EMERGENCY. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST I LOVE THE CITY, I LOVE THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE THE HOMELESS, I LOVE THE PEOPLE WHO PUT WITH IT. YOU HAVE SHOWN A GREAT DEAL OF COURAGE DEALING WITH THIS HOMELESS SITUATION. YOU JUST DON'T THROW THEM IN JAIL. YOU CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL.

BUT WE DO NEED TOILETS. WE NEED TOILETS EVERYWHERE. IT'S A HEALTH CONCERN FOR US ALL. THERE ARE DISEASE AND TROUBLE IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO DO T.YOU CANNOT CONDEMN SOMEBODY FOR TAKING A DUMP SOMEWHERE IF THERE IS NO PLACE TO TAKE A DUMP. SO THE PARK, I WORRY ABOUT TEMPORARY TOILET BECAUSE ANYBODY THAT IS TEMPORARY IN, CAN GO AS SOON AS THE NEIGHBOR STARTS COMPLAINING THAT THE TOILETS ARE TL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? GO AHEAD. >> I LIVE ON KAWANA TERRACE JUST WHERE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON RIGHT WHERE THE CHILDREN'S VILLAGE USED TO BE.

I PASS PAST YOUR HOUSES SEVERAL TIMES A WEENING. I ACTUALLY AM HAPPY ABOUT THE PARK. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PARK FOR THE REASONS OF, POTENTIAL CLEAN UP. EVERYTHING THAT THEY SAID IS TRUE. I HAVE A THREE GRAND DAUGHTERS THAT I DO NOT ALLOW IN MY OWN FRONT YARD TO PLAY AND I HAVE A FENCE OUT FRONT BECAUSE OF THE SPEEDING AND THE YOUTH THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT THE LADY SPOKE OF IS A ROUND THE CLOCK PROBLEM. I TALKED TO HANK ABOUT IT BEFORE HE RETIRED. I PUT SOME INFORMATION ON YOUR FORUM WHEN IT WAS OFFERED. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PARK TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO. I WANT TO KNOW HOW THE CITY IS GOING TO PARTNER WITH THE PROPOSAL TO KEEP CRIME DOWN? TO KEEP GED RID OF THE RV. I DON'T WANT TO BRING MY KIDS DOWN THERE BY MYSELF WITHOUT MY HUSBAND. I DON'T WALK TO KAWANA SPRINGS OR TAYLOR PARK, TAYLOR MOUNTAIN BY MYSELF ANYMORE. I CNNOT WALK ACROSS THE VILLAGE UP TO TAYLOR MOUNTAIN WHICH IS ONE OF THE ATTRACTIONS TO BUYING THAT HOME TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

MY HOME IS ABOUT 59 YEARS OLD. ONE OF THE FIRST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT I LIVE AROUND FEEL THE SAME WAY. I LITERALLY WANTED BUY SPIKE STRIPS AND PUT THEM IN FRONT OF MY YARD TO KEEP THE PEOPLE FROM DRIVING AT LEAST 06 MILES PER HOUR IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. I'VE BEEN OUT THERE DOING YARDWORK AND HAVE TO COME BACK UP ON MY SIDEWALK BECAUSE OF THE SPEEDING. I THINK A CROSSWALK BUT A STOP SIGN NEEDS TO BE WESTBOUND MEETA IS. I'VE HAD TO, TAKE IN MY GRANDKIDS, ONE OF TEM IN A STROLLER AND, I DON'T DO IT ANYMORE. IT'S NOT SAFE. THE SPEEDING IS OUT OF CONTROL. I DON'T SEE POLICE CARS VERY OFTEN. AND I KNOW SEVERAL OF THE POLICEMAN WHO SAY THAT THEY'VE GONE OVER THERE AND IT'S FINE. BUT THEY'RE GOING PAST WHERE ALL THE STUFF IS GOING ON AND COMING BACK DOWN. IT'S, ILLEGAL TO DRINK AND DRIVE? RIGHT? BUT THEY'RE GETTING HIGH AND THEN THEY'RE DRIVING AND THEY'RE SPEEDING PAST MY HOUSE. AND IT'S NOT SAFE. HOW IS, HOW THE RVs THAT ARE OUT THERE, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO WHEN YOU DO YOUR CLEAN UP AND MOVE YOUR BOULDERS.

>> CAN YU GIVE YOUR NAME ONE MORE TIME SO STAFF CAN RENREBLGT ON THE MINUTES. >> I WILL GIVE IT TO HER. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER TIB AT THE TIMES DO YOU WANT TO MOVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. >> I MOVE RESOLUTION FOR THE COUNCIL ADOPTED MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION INCLUDING MILT GAYSING MONITORING AND PROGRAMMING PROGRAM FOR KAWANA SPRINGS PARK WITH PORTABLE RESTROOM ENCLOSURE, PARKING PICNIC AREA, CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA FOR AGES 23 TO 5 AND 5 TO 12,–TABLE TENNIS, FITNESS STATION, VOLLEYBALL, MULTI USE TURF YAI, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, CROSSWALK AND LOOP WALKING PATH AND WAIVE FURTHER READING OF THE TEXT.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? COUNCILMEMBER COMBS DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? >> NO JUST TO THANK STAFF FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD AND TO THANK ARLEE GARDENS. >> I THINK THAT WAS–WITH THAT WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >> VICE MAYOR ROERJZ YOUR VOTE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER COMBS? >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING? >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER OLIVARES. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAWYER? >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS? >> AYE. >> SO THAT WILL PASS UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH DEPUTY DIRECTOR. AS WE ANNOUNCED EARLIER IN THE NIGHT, ITEM 14.4 HAS BEEN PULLED AND HELD UNTIL NEXT WEEK. WHERE WE WILL HEAR IT THEN. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK 20-MINUTE BREAK FROM THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE ABOUT ONE AD A HALF OF COMMENTARY ON ITEM 14.3.

SO WE WILL COME BACK AT 7:50. [GAVEL] >> AND WE'RE BACK. >> ITEM 14.3. >> ORDER MODIFYING CHAPTER 18-33 T ADOPT WITH REFERENCE THE LOCAL AMENDMENT THE 2018 CALIFORNIA ENERGY CODE TITLED 24 PART 6 OF THE BUILDING STANDARD CODE, ALL ELECTRIC REACH CODE AND RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE. JESSE OSWALD PRESENTING. >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU. SO SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IS GOING TO LOOK FAMILIAR. WE TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES. SOME BACKGROUND ON WHERE THE CODE CAME FROM.

WE'RE SPECIFICALLY CLEAR THAT THIS IS ONLY ADDRESSING THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY CODE PORTION OF THE CODE ADOPTION. AND LOCALLY KNOWN AS A RACH CODE BECAUSE WE'RE PROPOSING ADOPTION OF MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENT THAN THE STATE PROPOSES. SO CALIFORNIA BUILDERS COMMISSION, EVERY THREE YEARS, PUBLISHES NEW CODES BASED ON INTERNATIONAL CODES AND HERE WE ARE, THIS IS THE SAME TIME OF YEAR, AND TIME OF THE CYCLE TO DO IT. THE STATE WIDE QUOED IS SOMETHING THAT CALIFORNIA WILL ADHERE TO. THE TO 19 ENERGY CODE IS BECAME ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY PUBLISHED FROM THE BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION AND THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION SO JULY FIRST. SO W'VE HAD THIS TIME TO GO THROUGH THE CODE AND REVIEW WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS. SO SPECIFICALLY IF WE ADOPT THIS CODE, IT WOULD BE JANUARY FIRST, 2020. THE ENERGY CODE ADOPTION IF WE IMPLEMENT MORE STRICT, STANDARDS THAN THE DAYS REQUIREMENT HAS A VERY SPECIFIC CHARGE THAT LOCAL JURISDICTION IF THEY AMEND THE ENERGY CODE TO BE MORE STRINGENT WE HAVE TO FINDING THAT THE AMENDMENTS SHOWN PROPOSED STANDARD WILL BE MORE EERGY EFFICIENT AND BE COST EFFECTIVE.

THIS IS JUST THE HIGHLIGHT. IT'S AN 11-PART SERIES. SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WILL BE COMING IN WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 2019 CALIFORNIA ENERGY CODE WITHOUT LOCAL AMENDMENTS, THESE CHANGES WILL OCCUR. THESE ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTED ITEMS. EFFICIENCIES WILL INCREASE AGAIN. WE WILL NO LONGER LIKELY SEE ANYTHING LESS THAN 2 BY 6. THERE WERE METHODS AND PASS CODES TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT IS CALLED PERFORMANCE TO BE ABLE T DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF MEASURES TO MAYBE DO TWO BY FOUR FRAMING. DUE TO THE HIGH ENERGY EFFICIENT INSULATION. DOORS WILL BE ADDRESSED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE CODES, ODDLY ENOUGH, WINDOWS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY FOR A LONG TIME.

DOORS NEVER WERE. CERTAIN SPECIFIC QUALITY INSPECTIONS WILL BE REQUIRED. MOST ENERGY EFFICIENT ITEMS IN NEW CONSTRUCTION, THIS CNTINUES TO EVOLVE WHERE THIRD PARTY INSPECTIONS ARE NOW GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE COMMON PLACE. AFFORDABLE TECH SHOWN AS SOLAR WILL BE REQUIRED, IT'S A BASE REQUIREMENT ON ALL LOW RICE RESIDENTIAL, LOW RISE MEANING THREE STORIES AND BELOW. AND NATURAL GAS IS NOT ELIMINATED, IT'S STILL PART OF THE EFFICIENCY PACKAGE. THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSIONS ANALYSIS FOR THE ACTUAL BASE CODE ADOPTION. THIS IS NOT INCLUDING THE REACH CODE WHICH WE'LL BE DISCUSSING. THEY SAY THAT THEY, THROUGH TE ANALYSIS HAVE INDICATED THAT THE INITIAL COSTS IS AN ADDITIONAL 9500 FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THE PAY BACK IS 19,000 OVER A 30-YEAR MORTGAGE, THIS IS THROUGH A COSTA –COST ANALYSIS THAT THE STATE DID.

THE KIND OF REGULATION SETS BUILDING CODES STANDARDS FOR ALL JURISDICTIONS. THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN REQUIRE MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENT NOT ONLY FOR THOSE CODES BUT ANY OF THE CODES. SPECIFIC TO ENERGY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE PUBLIC PROCESS. AND IF WE WERE TO ADOPT A REACH CODE EVERY TIME WE WANT TO CONTINUE A REACH CODE, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TE PROCESS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND REANALYSIS AD MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT THAN THE BASE CODE. SO THE OPTIONS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN OUR ONE OF OUR PRELIMINARY CLIMATE ACTION SUB COMMITTEES, THESE WERE THE THREE OPTIONS PRESENTED. THE ALL ELECTRIC READY WHICH IS A ESSENTIALLY, PREWIRING THE HOUSE OR THE BUILDING, IF IT'S A DUPLEX OR WHAT HAVE YOU. TO BE READY TO CONVERT TO ALL ELECTRIC BUT STILL THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO INSTALL GAS. THEY HAVE THE 100% CHOICE.

AND THERE IS NO REDUCTION BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN IN IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THE AL ELECTRIC FAVORED IS KIND OF THE MIDDLE TIER, GAS OR PROPANE. BUT THE TRADE OR IF YOU GO WITH A GAS APPLIANCE YOU HAVE TO INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY WHICH IS CALLED THE CAL GREEN TIER 1, 10 TO 20 PERCENT, SO YOU DO A TRADE OFF FOR THE FOUR APPLIANCESS, YOU INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY IN SOME OTHER ELEMENT TO EQUAL THE–FOR GOING WITH GAS. AND THEN THE ALL ELECTRIC REACH WHICH AGAIN REQUIRES ALL ELECTRIC ONLY NO NATURAL GAS OR PROPANE FOR THE APPLIANCES AT THE HOME. IN OTHER WORDS, THE HOME WOULD NOT BE–PLANNED–THIS IS A CARBON ANALYSIS DONE THROUGH OUR PARTNERS IN THE BAY AREA, REGIONAL CLIMATE PROTECTION AUTHORITY. SONOMA CEAN POWER, AND OTHER AGENCY THAT'S TELL WHAT OUR BASIC 2016 CODE WHICH ARE WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER, SHOWS JUST UNDER 3.5 METRIC TONS O CARBON DIOXIDE. THE 2019 PROPOSED CODES DROPPED THAT WITH NO AMENDMENTS, DROPPED THAT DOWN TO ROUND 3.

THEN IF WE GO TO HIGHER EFFICIENCY, 2019 CODES THAT ARE COMING, WE STILL GET A BETTER REDUCTION THAN AL ELECTRIC, SHOWS THE SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN CARBON MONOXIDE OF MAINTAINING A HOME. SO ON THE RIGHT, WE HAVE TE PARTNERS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH TO GATHER ALL THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION, THE COST STUDIES, WORK WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION, CALIFORNIA BILLING STANDARDS COMMISSION. SO THE COST ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED. IT'S REQUIRED FOR A REACH CODE. SO IT WAS REVIEWED BY THESE AGENCIES AND IT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED BIT CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION. SO THAT HAS BECOME THE BASIS FOR US TO TELL THE COMMISSION AD STANDARD COMMISSION THAT WE NEED REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE REVIEWED THIS AND WE'RE COMFORTABLE ON A STATE LEVEL TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS. THIS BREAKS DOWN THE ACTUAL COST EFFECTIVE NEWSNESS–EFFECTNESS THAT WAS PERFORMED REGIONALLY WITH OR JURISDICTION AND OUR CLIMATE PROTECTION PARTNERS THOUGHING THAT 6171 IN COST SAVINGS, AND THIS IS GENERALLY ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO ANY ONE JURISDICTION. SO THEY'VE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE ENTIRE STATE.

A MATTER OF INTEREST HAS BEEN PRESENTED A FEW TIMES DURING OUR STUDY SESSIONS. AND OTHER MEETINGS. IT WAS SIGNED BIT GOVERNOR IN SEPTEMBER AND BOILS DOWN TO EXEMPTS HOMES THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL PHOTOABLE TECH, SOLAR SYSTEMS WHICH IS COMING IN THE BASE CODE REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE. IT EXEMPTS THEM FROM HAVING TO INSTALL THEM. I READ THE BACKGROUND ON THE LAW, THE PROPOSAL IS TARGETED TO RELEAVE SOME OF THE COSTS. SO IT ONLY ANALYZED TLUT ENTIRETY OF THE SATE AS PART OF THE ENERGY FITER SEE. SO BUSINESS PROXY THIS ALLOWANCE BY THE GOVERNOR, WILL EXEMPT REBUILDS FROM THE ALL ELECTRIC REACH CODES. AND I DO HAVE SUPPORT FROM OUR PARTNERS IN THE ANALYSIS OF THIS. SO SOME O OUR OUT REACH THAT WE'VE PERFORMED ON THE LEFT, WE HAVE OUR TYPICAL MONTHLY BILLING OFFICIALS, RICO OF CODE OFFICIAL THAT'S WE MEET MONTHLY. WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE COUNTIES AND JURISDICTIONS THAT WE MEET WITH.

CONTINUALLY DISCUSSING CODES AND THE ADOPTIONS AND AMENDMENTS AND TRYING TO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SHOW SOME CONSISTENCY TO WE'RE NOT STANDING OUT ON OUR OWN. SOME OTHER MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A REGULAR NORTH COAST EXCHANGE MEETING TARGETED WITH THE REBUILDING IN MIND, BUT WE'VE HAD A GREAT FORUM WITH SEVERAL BUILDERS AND BUILDERS EXCHANGE OVER, GOSH A YEAR AND A HALF NOW. THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT CONDUIT FOR US. COFFEE STRONG MEETING. WE ALWAYS GET A LOST INTEREST IN THOSE MEETINGS.

WE BRING THEM EVERYTHING THAT WE BRING TO EVERY MEET ANDING ALSO THE STANDING HOME MEETING FOR THE COFFEE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND ALSO DID A FORUM WITH THE REMODEL ASSOCIATION LOST MONTH GREAT TURN OUT. AND THEN OUR OTHER OUT REACH TARGETING FULL PARTICIPATION, THE FIRST MEETING WITH THE CLIMATE COMMITTEE WAS IN JUNE. AND WE'VE HAD OUR BOTH SESSION WITH STUDY CODE IN JULY. ANOTHER EVENT PUT ON BIT NORTH COAST BUILDERS EXCHANGE WHICH BROUGHT OUT A PRETTY LARGE CROWD. THE TITLE WHAT DO THESE REACH CODES MEAN TO YOU? ANOTHER CLIMATE ACTION IN SEPTEMBER. BUILT A ROUNDTABLE WHICH WAS WELL ATTENDED IN SEPTEMBER AS WELL AND WE DID THAT LAST STUDY SESSION FOR SEPTEMBER AND BUILDING AND FIRE CODE ADOPTION. THIS IS JUST A LIST. IT INDICATES 50. THIS IS OF COURSE NOT 50.

WE HAVE AN UPDATED LIST THAT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU FOR CITIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED AND TAKEN FIRST STEPS IN ADOPTING A REACH CODE. AS WE EVOLVE IN OUR DISCUSSION IN OUR POTENTIAL A DEPOSITSSING OF CODE, OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE WATCHING US AND WE'RE WATCHING THEM AS WELL. SO THE PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT THAT'S A MOUTHFUL. RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING BY REFERENCE TO 2019 CALIFORNIA ENERGY CODE, CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS, TITLE 24 PART 6 AS ADOPTED AND AMENDED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND FURTHER AMENDED FOR USE OF CHAPTER 3 OF THE SANTA ROSA CITY CODE. SO MODIFY TO REFLECT THE NEW MODEL CODE. INTRODUCE A NEW ORDINANCE WITH LOCAL AMENDMENTS THE 2019 ENERGY CODE. AND ADOPT BY RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCES. AND WE BELIEVE FOR DECEMBER 3. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DAVID I'M GOING TO START ASKING YOU A QUESTION.

ONE OF THE MAIN REQUIREMENT IN HERE IS A COST EFFECTIVE ANALYSIS. AND I NOTICED THAT IN TO DIFFERENT PLACES WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CRITERIA. ONE IT SAYS OVER THE LIFE OF THE MORTGAGE, AND THAT SEEMS ON THE STATE'S REQUIREMENT THAT ARE COMING IN THAT WILL DSCUSS MORE FULLY NEXT WEEK. IT SHOWS THAT, EVEN WITH THE SYSTEMS COMING N EVEN THE LIFE OF 30-YEAR MORTGAGE IT WOULD SAVE $19,000, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE LOOK AT IT ON THE REACH SIDE, WHICH IS THE ONE-TIME EXPENSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE GAS VERSUS NOT HAVING IT.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HOW COST EFFECTIVE IS DEFINED AND HOW THIS EFFECTS THE CRITERIA. >> THE FIRST ONE YOU MENTIONED WAS FOR THE BASE CODE WHICH IS DEFINED BY THE STATE, LOOKING AT THE WHAT THE IMPROVEMENT WILL DO TO THE HOMEOWNERS, ENERGY ELECTRICITY BILL BUT ALSO THE ENERGY LOSS AT HOME SO THAT'S WHAT THIS GRAPHIC REPRESENTS. THAT IS OVER THE COST TO A MUTUAL HOMEOWNER. ON THE FLIP SIDE, IF WE LOOK AT THE COST STUDY AND RATIONAL THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE TO THE STATE TO HAVE THE TONIGHT, ION THAT WE'RE HAVING – IS TO SHOW THE REACH CODE ELEMENTS DO, SHOW ITS COST EFFECTIVE BUT ALSO REDUCTION A COSZ GREEN HOW'SES. THE SECOND IS THIS, AND THIS IS JUST IN INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS IS THE COST TO BUILD AND CONSTRUCT. SO AS JESSE MENTIONED, THIS IS THE AVERAGE OVER THE STATE. AND THEY LOOK AT FLOOR PLANS.

THE WATER HEATING DRIERS AND COOKING. SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR APPLIANCES THAT YOU SEE. MOVING FROM A TYPICAL HEATING SYSTEM. THE COST WHERE THEY'RE SHOWING THE SAVINGS IS RALLY THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE PUTTING THE GAS LINES IN. SO NOT HAVING TO PUT THE LINES IN, SHOWS A NET REDUCTION. THAT'S HOW WE HAVE TO PROOF TO THE STATE AND IF THIS STUDY CAME FROM THE STATE AND THAT'S AGAIN ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOU'RE SEEING US HAVE THIS THIS CONVERSATION BUT A LOT OF JURISDICTION. BUT NOW THERE IS A STUDY THAT ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT MOVING THESE ITEMS FORWARD AND DEBATING THEM. SO AGAIN THE CLARIFICATION, ONE REPRESENTS THE COST OF THE OPENER AND THIS ONE THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION THAT GETS PASSED TO THE OWNER. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THEN THIS ANALYSIS, FOLKS SHOULD BECOME FAMILIAR BECAUSE I ASSUME THOSE 50 JURISDICTION THAT'S ARE LOOKING AT AT THIS, ARE LOOKING AT THE SAME NUMBERS. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND WE'RE ALL USING THE SAME DATA. I THINK THERE WAS A ISSUE UP IN WINDSOR OF A THREATENED LAWSUIT RELATED TO THIS.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHERE THAT SITS AND HOW THAT MAY IMPACT SANTA ROSA. >> CERTAINLY. SANTA ROSA WE DID A RECEIVE A LETTER VERY SIMILAR TO THE LETTER THAT WAS RECEIVED IN WINDSOR. WE HAVE REVIEWED THAT AND PT TOGETHER A FULL RESPONSE. AND WE FIND THAT THERE IS NO MERIT TO A LAWSUIT UNDER CALIFORNIAN ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. IS SHOULD SPECIFY THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR LAWSUIT OR POTENTIAL LAWSUIT UP IN WINDSOR. BUT WE HAVE REVIEWED THAT AND PUT TOGETHER MATERIALS AND CONFIDENT THAT THERE ARE NO ISSUES THAT WOULD LEAD TO US ANY SUCCESSFUL LITIGATION. >> IS APPRECIATE THAT. AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION THAT IT WAS ON CEQA NOT BASED ON THE COSTS. >> CORRECT. >> GREAT. HAVE WE AS CITY AND STAFF STARTED TO CONTEMPLATE THE IMPLICATIONS OF MOVING TO ALL ELECTRIC GIVEN THE CONCERNS ABOUT DEENERGIZATION AND THE POWER SAFETY SHUT OFFS. >> YES, SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG CONVERSATION THAT IS HAPPENING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IS WHAT CURRENTLY, HOW THIS HAS CURRENTLY IMPACTED.

SO ONE THING WE HEARD, A LOST NEW APPLIANCES HAVE ELECTRIC STARTERS. SOL EVEN PEOPLE EFFECTED BIT POWER SHUTOUTS. SO WE'RE EVALUATING WHAT THAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE REGARDLESS IF YOU'RE ON GAS OR ELECTRICITY. HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT AS A COMMUNITY AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH URBAN ALLY INSTITUTE AND THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. HOW DOES OUR ELECTRIC GRID SYSTEM LOOK FROM A LONG TERM RESILIENCE STAND POINT. BUT AS A MNTIONED, THAT'S AN ISSUE EVEN WITH THIS DECISION TONIGHT. EVEN WTH THIS DECISION, WE HAVE ELECTRICAL GRID THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. IT'S DEFINITELY TOP OF MIND AND SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOK AT THE NEXT YEAR OR SO. >> YES, SO REGARDLESS HOW THE COUNCIL VOTES WE'LL NEED A FULL RESPONSE TO THE CHALLENGE THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED? GREAT. JESSE, IF I CAN JUST, SO WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU IS, IT'S CHEAPER? REBUILDS ARE EXEMPTED, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> EXISTING HOMES ARE NOT IMPACTED. >> CORRECT. >> ANYTHING THAT IS BUILT THAT IS ABOVE FOUR STORIES OR ABOVE IS NOT IMPACTED.

>> CORRECT. >> RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER POLICEWOMENING? –COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING. >> THANK YOU FOR DOING ROBUST ENGAGEMENT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE FOLKS IN THE AREA THAT THEY KNOW THAT THIS NOT EFFECT THEIR REBUILDS. >> IT'S BEEN A LITTLE MORE ENGAGING WITH THE FOUNTAIN GROVE COMMUNITY. THE LAST ONES I THINK WE WERE AT THE SAME ONES. WE WORK THROUGH OUR BUILDERS THAT WE MEET WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO THEY'RE CARRYING THE MESSAGE FOR US. BUT THEY HAVE, THEY'RE VERY NOT SHY ABOUT DISCUSSING WHAT THEIR BMDERS. >> THEY'RE NOT SHY FOLKS BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE'VE GIVEN THEM SIMILAR COURTESY THAT WE HAVE. >> I CAN SAY THAT ALL OF OUR OUT REACH WERE BROAD CAST IN THE CITY AND REGION, SO WE DID NOT ISOLATE TO ANY REBUILDS OR OTHERWISE. >> GREAT TO HEAR. THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE.

AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE QUITE A FEW CARDS ON THIS. I'M GOING TO ASK FOLKS TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO TWO MINUTES. AND FEEL FREE TO NOT TAKE ALL OF THAT. >> I'M ANDY FURGESON, TWO MINUTES IS A SHORT TIME. BUZZ I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT IN MY CAREER, I WORKED AS AN ENGINEER AND I SPEAK ASIAN LANGUAGES SO A SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN ASIA. WHEN I WAS FREEZING TO DEATH IN SOME NORTHERN PLACE IN CHINA, I LEARNED ABOUT HEAT PUMPS. AND WHEN I CAME BACK TO THE UNITED STATES, I DECIDED THAT IN ORDER TO YOU KNOW, GO GREEN, I SHOULD PUT IN HEAT PUMPS TOO. AFTER WORKING AS AN ENGINEER IN AISH YA. I WAS AS A BUILDER, I BUILT APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND PURCHASED APARTMENT BUILDING AND I ABOUT D THOSE ON A 100% ELECTRIC BASE. I INSTALLED HEAT PUMPS AND THEY WERE THE BEST INVESTMENT THAT I COULD HAVE MADE. NOT ONLY THE DID TENANT LIKE THEM, THEY'RE LESS TO OPERATE. I JOINED THE PHYSICAL UNION IN ORDER TO LEARN MORE ABOUT CLIMATE SCIENCE AND I'VE BEEN GOING TO THEIR CONVENTION OF 20,000 SCIENTISTS IN SAN FRANCISCO EVERY YAE, THE FALL MEETING IN DECEMBER.

AT THOSE PLACES I LEARNED ABOUT THE SEVERE THREAT THAT METHANE REPRESENTS IN THE CLIMATE. THE TOP LINE IS THE IMPACT OF CARBON DIOXIDE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE IMPACT OF METHANE. THE IMPACT IS THAT WE CN STOP PUTTING METHANE INTO THE ATMOSPHERE AD MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE. CARBON DIOXIDE WILL BE FOR MANY YEARS BUT THE NOT–[BUZZARD] >> NEXT IS LAURA, LOWER IS NOT HERE, I'LL PUT THE CARD TO THE SIDE. >> I WAS, REALLY GLAD TO HEAR CITY ATTORNEY GALLAGER MENTION THAT SHE FELT CONFIDENT ABOUT LAWSUITS RELATE TODAY CEQA. I HAVE HEARD THAT THERE IS ANOTHER TYPE OF LAWSUIT, SLAP LAWSUIT STRATEGIC LAWSUIT AGAINST PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THESE LAWSUITS AGAINST CITIES TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR CITIZENS AGAINST THE RAVAGES OF CLIMATE CHANGE, SHOULD BE SEEN AS RIDICULOUS AS THE LAWSUIT AGAINST OUR GOVERNMENT FOR TRYING TO PROTECT US AGAINST TERRORISM. ANY MONEY THAT WE SAVE BY PREVENTING A LAWSUIT FROM TRYING TO RECOVER FROM ON GOING CATASTROPHES THAT OUR CITIES ARE FACING AS THIS CRISIS GETS WORSE. LET'S FACE IT NO TERRORISTS GROUP KOEFR THREATEN OUR CITY AND THE WORLD MORE THAN CLIMATE CRISIS AND NO LAWSUIT SHOULD EVER DETER US FROM DOING WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT HAS TO BE DONE.

I WANTED TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS FOR MENTIONING THE OAK MONT VILLAGE ASSOCIATION WORKING ON A MICRO GRID AND HIS ENCOURAGING THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO FOLLOW THE PROGRESS ON THA. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEET AT LEAST ON A MONTHLY BASE, SINCE THE COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, THEY HAVE MET ONLY THREE TIMES AND WE'RE HERE IN NOVEMBER SO.

WE'RE NOT ACTING AS WE'RE IN A CRISIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SETH FOLLOWED BY DEBRA. >> HI GOOD I'M JEFF STEWARD, I'M PRESIDENT OF BLUE STAR GAS A LOCAL PROPANE DISTRIBUTOR. I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS 81 YEARS AND I'M THIRD GENERATION IN THE BUSINESS. AS A BUSINESS OWNER IN SANTA ROSA AND LONG TIME RESIDENT WHO LIKE WITH ALL OF US, EXPERIENCED POWER SHUTOUT AND FORCED EVACUATION ENERGY SECURITY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

IT COMES FROM DIVERSITY AND UNLESS THERE ARE REDUNDANT SYSTEMS IN PLACE, GLOBAL OR CONVENTIONAL WILL PROVIDE THAT THE RESIDENTS REQUIRE TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE PROTECTION OF LIVES, SAFETY AND HEALTH IN DISASTER SETTINGS. ENERGY IS MORE THAN JUST A CONVENIENCE. FOR SOME, POWER IS A CRITICAL NECESSITY. PROPANE AND NATURAL GAS PROVIDE LIVE AND ENERGY LIFE FOR ELDER POPULATION FOR MELLED EQUIPMENT. FIREFIGHTERS RELY ON PROPANE, HOSPITAL WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES, ELECTRICITY UTILITIES. CITY OF SANTA ROSA USES PROPANE AS BACK UP POWER FOR THE SEWAGE. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHY YOU WOULD ALLOW AND REQUIRE ENERGY DIVERSITY FOR THE MOST CRITICAL CITY INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND NOT PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF SECURITY OPTIONS TO OUR CITIZENS. IF THE COUNCIL ADOPTS THIS REACH CODE, YOU WOULD BE ELIMINATING CHOICE OF ENERGY REDUNDANT AND REQUIRE THAT IS UNRELIABLE SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE AND REQUIRE MORE–[BUZZARD] FOR ELECTRICITY. >> THANK YOU SIR. DEBRA FOLLOWED BY PETER. DEBRA? OKAY, WE'LL GO WITH PETER FOLLOWED BY TONY WHITE. >> GOOD EVENING VICE MAYOR.

COUNCILMEMBERS MY NAME IS PETE GANG. I'M A BUILDER ARCHITECT. I'VE BEEN AT THIS GAME FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY LIKE ALL THE OTHER BUILDERS, WHO I ASSUME ARE IN THE ROOM, THE WHOLE DESIGN COMMUNITY WHEN I STARTED OUT IN MY CAREER, NATURAL GAS WAS THE CLEAN ALTERNATIVE. WE WERE DOING EVERYTHING WE COULD TO KEEP COOL HEAT, NOT COOL BUT HEAT OUR BUILDINGS WITH NATURAL GAS AND MOVE AWAY FROM ELECTRICITY. BACK THEN, WE KNEW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE CLIMATE CRISIS AND SOMETIMES HAVE CHANGED. SLOWLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE LEARNED ABOUT THE CLIMATE CRISIS AND TO SAY THAT WE HAVE UNDERESTIMATED ITS SCOPE AND REACH IS ITSELF A HUGE UNDERSTATEMENT. OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS OR SO, WE HAVE LEARNED ABOUT THE HUMAN CAUSE GREENHOUSE GASES AND MORE RECENTLY, WE NOW THAT METHANE WHICH IS THE COMPONENT OF NATURAL GAS IS ITSELF, A POTENT GAS IS ANNUAL BASIS OVER A YEAR, IS 100% MORE DANGEROUS THAN CO-2. THAT'S ONE OF THE MOTIVATIONS BEHIND US WANTING TO GET AWAY FROM NATURAL GAS AND MOVE TO ALL ELECTRIC.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, PETER. TONY WHITE FOLLOWED BY HAL BECK. HAL? HE'LL BE FOLLOWED BY AMY BOLTON. >> I'M DISAPPOINTED TONY IS NOT HERE, I WAS HOPING TO HEAR WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. PERSONALLY, I'M I UNDERSTAND THIS IS PROBABLY A DONE DEAL. I PERSONALLY CAN'T STATE A SINGLE REASON WHY SANTA ROSA WOULD PROHIBIT NATURAL GAS FOR NEW CONNECTIONS. ELECTRICAL ENERGY IS NOT RELIABLE. I THINK WE HAVE ALL SEEN THAT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE IT. NATURAL GAS. THOSE WHO HAVE HAD GAS PROPANE HEAT THOSE WHO DID NOT CANNOT. IT'S NOT CARBON NEUTRAL. I ALWAYS ENJOYED THE EMISSION FREE STICKERS ON THE CARS. IT'S KIND OF JUST LIKE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT MILK COMES FROM THE GROCERY STORE. YOU HAD A NICE HOUSE ON ONE OF THE GRAPHICS SHOWING THE EMISSIONS COMING OUT OF THAT HOUSE, GAS VERSUS ELECTRIC AND THENT POWER LINES GOING BACK.

IT DIDN'T SHOW THE POWER LINES CREATE EMISSIONS A YEAR AGO OVER THE CAMPFIRE, GAVES THE WORSE AIR QUALITY I THE BAY AREA IN THE WORLD. WE WERE AHEAD OF MUMBAI AND IT WAS NOT CAUSED BY CAUSE FARTING METHANE. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE TRANSMISSION. WE HAVE BEEN USING FIRE FOR 500,000 MAYBE 2 MILLION YEARS? THAT'S HOW WE LEARNED TO COOK AND HEAT OUR CAVES. THAT'S BEEN OUR BASIC SOURCE TO MAKE CIVILIZATION. AND LEVELS DON'T USE ELECTRIC THEY USE GAS — ~>> THANK YOU. AMY BOLTON FOLLOWED BY BEN GRANDHOLME. >> HI GOOD EVENING. AMY BOLTON I'M CHRISTOPHERSON BUILDERS I'M IN THAT PARTIALLY IN THAT XAS SXIT PARTIALLY AS A RESIDENT OF SANTA ROSA. NEW HOMES CONSTRUCTION WHICH ARE A TINY SLIVER OF OUR HOUSING STOCK.

AND THE NEW 220 ENERGY CODES ARE GOING TO INCREASE THAT BY HALF. SOME O THESE HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE SO INCREDIBLY EFFICIENT. IN SONOMA OFFERS GREAT INCENTIVE, TO HAVE PEOPLE GO ALL ELECTRIC IF THEY WANT TO. BUT HERE'S THE POINT, OH OKAY. HERE'S THE POINT WHERE THIS GETS A LITTLE PERSONAL. WE DO TALK TO A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS AND I KNOW THAT THE REBUILDS ARE EXEMPT WHICH IS GREAT. BUT THEY ALSO REPRESENT THE SENTIMENT OF JUST GENERAL PUBLIC WHO ARE GOING TO LOOK TO BUY NEW HOMES. AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, MOST OF THEM ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT HAVING THIS CRAMMED DOWN THEIR THROAT. NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A GAS STOVE OR A GAS WATER HEATER OR WHATEVER AND DURING THE LAST OUTAGES, MY NEIGHBORHOOD WE WERE WITHOUT HEAT FOR A WEK.

AND WITHOUT USING HOT WATER AND USING THE LIGHTER AND THE LITTLE GAS FIREPLACE WE HAD, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MISERABLE. WITH TWO KIDS. IT WAS A HORRIBLE QUALITY OF LIFE. I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF THE STATE REVISE THAT'S. WE SHOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT PUCKER THIS SO QUICKLY AND SO FAST. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, AMY. FOLLOWED BY JOY, I APOLOGIZE, ALOFIA? >> I'M BEN GRANDHOLME HOME OF THE WEST HOME GAS ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT THIS EVENING.

WDP A SUPPORTS CLEAN ENERGY HOWEVER WE BELIEVE THAT THE REACH CODE BEFORE YOU IS FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED. THE PROPANE INDUSTRY IS PROUD OF THE ROLE THAT WE PAY IN PROVIDING A LOW-COST CLEAN ENERGY. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ELECTRICITY FORECAST PROVIDED BY CALIFORNIA REGULATORY AGENCIES, IT'S EVIDENT THAT THEIR WORK DOES NOT FACTOR IN THE ELECTRIC GRID AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE AND LIABILITY COSTS THAT ARE ULTIMATELY PASSED ON TO RATE PLAYERS. PG&E WERE ALLOWED TO INCREASE RATES OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND ELECTRICITY PRICES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO SKYROCKET.

WHERE AS PROPANE CAN PROVIDE CLEAN INTERSECTION UNINTERRUPTED AT A CHEAPER RATE. OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE'VE SEEN RESIDENTS ACROSS CALIFORNIA, MANY HERE IN SANTA ROSA LEFT IN THE DARK DUE TO POWER SHUT OFFS. THESE OCCURRENCES WHICH ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, IS DANGEROUS AND UNACCEPTABLY RISKY. CLEAN ENERGY SOLUTIONS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO COMPETE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER WHEN THEY WERE COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER FOR SOLAR TO BE SUCCESSFUL IT NEEDS TO HAVE BACK UP POWER. COSTING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. LASTLY, IWOULD LIKE TO QUESTION A REPORT THAT IT'S CHEAPER TO BUILD AN ELECTRIC HOME VERSUS GAS. THIS DOES NOT FACTOR IN FORFEITING A HOME FOR PROPANE. [BUZZARD] >> TUZ SIR. –THANK YOU, SIR. JOY FOLLOWED BY ALEX. >> ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE SHOULD NOT BE A CONTENTIONCIOUS LOOK AT THE FULL ENERGY CYCLE THAT PUSHES THE GREENHOUSE BURDENS TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT PROPANE IS NOT METHANE.

AGAIN PRO MAIN IS NOT METHANE. IT'S AT YOUR DISPOSAL TO CHANGE. LOOK AT THE REPORT FROM DR. EARNEST PHYSICIST AND CERG UNDER BARACK OBAMA FUEL MUST EFFECTIVELY BE USED TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL CHALLENGE WITHIN ELECTRIC ONLY ELECTRICITY, THE GRID OPERATORS ADVISE THAT THE STATE'S BACK UP POWER SUPPLY IS IN DANGER OF BEING DEMRAOETED IN 2020 REQUIRING OTHER POLLUTED ENERGY FROM OTHER OUT OF STATE PLANTS.

THIS WOULD CREATE A ENERGY DESSERT FOR SANTA ROSA RESIDENTS. RATHER THAN COMMITTING THE COMMUNITY OF DESIGNING A WELL INTENTION BUT DEEPLY PREMATURE ENERGY PROPOSITION, SLAOUTIONZ MUST BE EMBRACED. I SUBMIT THAT PERHAPS PROPANE WAS NOT EVALUATED. THIS IS WHY St. LOUIS OBISPO, BECAUSE–I HUMBLY WOULD ALSO SUBMIT THAT THE STAFF PROPOSE AT THE WILDFIRE RESIL ANS SHOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE TO SANTA ROSA RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ALEX FOLLOWED BY CHRIS. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M ALEX, I'M A SANTA ROSA RESIDENT AND EMPLOYEE OF BLUE STAR GAS. DESPITE THE COLOSSAL NIGHTMARE OUR REGION EXPERIENCE WITHED FIRES AND BLACKOUT. . THE SANTA ROSA CITY COUNCIL IS PUSHING AHEAD WITH PROPOSAL TO CREATE A PRESENT FOR ALL ELECTRIC COMMUNITY. THIS WELL INTENTION BUT MISINFORMED DRIVE WILL REAP THE HARVEST OF REGRET IN DEPRACTICE BASING WHILE EXPOSING RESIDENT TO SEE LIFE AND DEATH.

TO T CULD LEAD TO FATALITIES INCLUDING THOSE WHO RELY ON LIFE SUSTAINING MEDICAL EQUIPMENT. THE PROPOSAL TO ELECTRIC FIEG EVERYTHING CREATES A SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE WITH NO PLAN B. THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO STEP BACK AND CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING REALITIES. ONE ELECTRICITY IS NOT A SILVER BULLET. IT IS DANGEROUS TO ASSUME THAT ALL BUILDINGS AND HOMES SHOULD BE ELECTRIC ONLY BECAUSE EVERY OTHER TYPE OF ENERGY IS SOMEWHAT BAD.

THE REALITY IS THAT THEY CREATE 16% OF THE GREENHOUSE EMISSIONS. 2, ENERGY DIVERSITY IS VITAL. IT'S A RISKY PROPOSITION TO PUT ALL THE ENERGY EGGS IN A SINGLE BASKET, CALIFORNIA WOULD BE VULNERABLE TO BLACKOUTS. 3, BUILDINGS HAVE JUST A SMALL SOURCE OF GREENHOUSE HE MITIONZ. THE CALIFORNIA RESOURCE ESTIMATES THAT THE BUILDING SECTOR ACCOUNTS FOR JUST 9% OF THE STATE'S TOTAL GREENHOUSE HE MITIONZ. AT BEST TOTAL ELECTRIFICATION. PROPANE IS ACCEPTABLE TO WILDFIRE SHUT OFFS. PROPANE IS THE ONLY ENERGY SOURCE TO PROVIDE BACK UP POWER. PROPANE IS BECOMING MORE SUSTAINABLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> CHRIS THOMPSON FOLLOWED BY KEITH WOODS. >> GOOD EVENING I'M XRIS THOMPSON AND I'M THE CRIES CHAIR OF OAK MONT CLUB. THE POWER SHUT OFF A FEW WEEKS AGO, MARKS THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW THAT WE IN SONOMA COUNTY HAVE EXPERIENCED FIRE NJZ. IT'S CLEAR THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY VULNERABLE TO DISASTEROUS EFFECTS OF GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE. BUT WE ARE NOT HELPLESS. TODAY WE CAN TAKE AN IMPORTANT STEP IN FIGHTING THIS CLIMATE ENERGY BY IMPLEMENTING THE ELECTRIC REACH CODE FOR NEW HOUSING. THIS CODE WILL HELP ENSURE THAT BY USING ONLY ELECTRIC APPLIANCES IN NEW HOMES AND MULTI STORY RESIDENT OF FOUR STORIES OR LESS, WE EIMINATE THE NEED FOR NATURAL GAS, A DANGEROUS CONTRIBUTOR TO GREENHOUSE GASZ.

WHILE SOME ARGUE THAT IT COSTS TOO MUCH WE SEE THAT IN 2019, THIS CLAIM IS LONGER VALID. SCIENCE, WARNS US THAT WE HAVE LESS THAN 10 YEARS TO A DRETS CLIMATE TIPPING POINT. WE ARE IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY. WE ARE RUNING OUT OF TIME. ELECTRIC HOMES ARE THE FUTURE WE NEED FOR OURSELVES AND ESPECIALLY FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. KEITH WOODS FOLLOWED BY CRAIG LAWSON. >> THANK YU I'M THE CE OFF NORTH WOODS BUILDERS EXCHANGE. WE HAVE CLOSE TO 900 BUILDERS SO I GET AN EARFUL OF THIS AND OVERWHELMINGLY IS OUR POSITION IS THIS I TOO MUCH FOR LITTLE RESULTS.

THIS WILL MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD BUT I HOPE YOU MAKE FACT-BASE RATHER THAN EMOTION-BASE DECISIONS. THIS IS MY FOURTH ENTITY. NOW I'VE BEEN AT MEETINGS, ONE IN WINDSOR WITH THE SALMON RAILROAD FACTS BE DAMNED. THE PROPAGANDA THAT PUT OUT BY THE POWER AND THE CLIMATE AUTHORITY WAS ALL THEY NEED TODAY HEAR. –NEEDED TO HEAR. THEY HAVE TAKEN THE MIDDLE GROUND, THE CA ROT AND STICK.

MEANING YOU WILL HAVE A GAS AND ELECTRIC HOOK UP BUT YOU NEED TO OFFSET THE GAS WITH HIGHS EFFICIENCY APPLIANCES FOR HEATING AND WATER BUT YOU'LL STILL HAVE YOUR COOK ANDING FIREPLACE BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THE FUTURE HOME BUYERS ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS. TRUST ME AND TRUST THE BUILDERS IN THE ROOM WHO CAN TELL YOU, THIS IS NOT A POPULAR CONCEPT AND IF YOU THINK IT'S GREAT, PUT IT IN THE BALLOT MAKE AND THEM ALL. I SUPERVISORS DECIDE THERE IS A LOT TOO MUCH THAT WE DON'T KNOW.

SO THEY DIFFERED IT. THEY HAVE ADOPTED THE STATE CODES BUT SAID COME BACK LATER, LET'S GIVE HOMEOWNERS MORE THAN FIVE OR SIX WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO GET A HOME STARTED. FINALLY, THE ARTICLE THAT WAS IN THE PRESS DEMOCRAT CALLED ALL ELECTRIC TIME WILL COME BUT IT'S NOT HERE YET. OUGHT TO BE MANDATORY READING BY THOSE IN THE DECISION MAKING. [BUZZARD] >> THANK YOU KEITH. >> MR. VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. BY THE WAYS I GAVE A HAND OUT I THINK SHE IS GOING TO PASS OUT. IT'S REALLY BIG WRITING SO IT'S REALLY EASY TO READ.

THERE IS OVER 2 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. ON AVERAGE WE BUILD ABOUT 80,000 NEW HOMES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SO THAT MEANS THAT 0.000.69 STOCK IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE HOUSING STOCK. NEW HMES UTILIZE 96% EFFICIENT FURNACES AND WATER HEATERS COMMENCING TYPE AS MANDATED BIT CURRENT ENERGY CODES. 87% OF THE HOUSING STOCK IN CALIFORNIA WAS BUILT PRIOR TO 1980. IN 1978 THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION CAME INTO EXISTENCE AND STARTED DEVELOPING NEW STANDARDS WIZ WE ALL LIVE BY TODAY.

HOMES BUILT PRIOR TO 1980 HAVE 78% OR WORSE EFFICIENT BURN AS SXZ WATER HEATERS. SIMPLE MATH, NEW HOMES HAVE R PRODUCING 0.001.6 PERCENT OF GREENHOUSE HOUSING. BY THE WAY I PROVIDING SOME HOUSING STATISTICS BY FUEL TYPE FOR YOU FOR READING. FINALLY THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING CONTRIBUTES 7% OF THE GREENHOUSE GASES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS NOT ACCURATE. THE QUOTE OF 27% REPORT WAS NOT ACCURATE. MY REFERENCES ARE FROM THE CALIFORNIA RESOURCE BOARD FROM AUGUST. IT WOULD SEEM TO ME BY FOCUS AGO YOUR ENERGY ON TRANSPORTATION, COST EFFECTIVE, 1/10,000 OF 10%. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> WHAT I HAVE TO ADDRESS IS, ALREADY BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REEMPHASIZE WE'RE WORKING WITH ALL, THE ONLY PEOPLE WORKING FOR ARE REBUILD CLIENTS. AND WE HAVE HAD LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PEOPLE WE'RE BUILDING FOR AND THE PEOPLE WE'RE BUILDING FOR. THIS IS OVER 100 FAMILIES WELL OVER 100 FAMILIES. AND KEITH WOODS TALKED ABOUT HEELSBERGH AND WHAT KEITH SAID ABOUT THE CONCERN BEING THE COOKING, PARDON ME, THE COOKING AND THE FIREPLACE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THE ONLY THING THEY MISSED WAS BBQS. SO REALLY IF PEOPLE WANT TO THE GAS FOR THEIR COOKING THEY WANT IT FOR THEIR BBQs AND THEIR FIREPLACES.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE. AND I THINK THERE IS A PUBLIC EDUCATION PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE GOING THROUGH. I HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE ELECTRIC FOR HAT AND FOR WATER AND ALL OF THE OTHER UTILITIES. BUT THERE IS, THERE I SUCH A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE WITHIN THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THAT THIS IS A REALLY HARD SELL. AND IT'S BACKING, PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING BACKED INTO ACORNER. AND I THINK THE NEXT STEP NEEDS TO BE THIS PUBLIC INFORMATION PROGRAM. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. TOM COMELAND FOLLOWED BY BRICE. >> TOM, SIERRA CLUB SONOMA GROUP. FIRST YOU WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS AT LEAST. AND ESPECIALLY YOUR REFLECTING DIVERSITY OF OPINIONS WHEN CONCERNS ROSE BUT THEN REMAINING FOCUSED ON THE FACTS AND NOT BOGGED DOWN BY SOME OF THE FEARS EXPRESSED TONIGHT.

IF ANY COMMUNITY HAS RECEIVED A MEMO THAT THIS IS–OVER IT'S THIS CITY. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT OF REACH CODE. THIS IS A PRETTY EASY VOTE FOR YOU. BECAUSE THE BUILDING SECTOR IS BUILDING PRETTY WELL. WE'RE ASKING A LOT OF OUR BUILDERS, EVERY THREE YEARS WE ASK THEM TO ADOPT THE NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF OUR AMAZING INNOVATION ECONOMY AND THEY DO IT, AND THEY DO IT SUCCESSFULLY. AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS. AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT, IS THAT THE ALL ELECTRIC ERA IS DAWNING HERE. AND BY THE WAY THE COST EFFECTIVENESS THAT MISTY IS DOING FOR YOU, I WAS IN CLASS WITH MISTY, AND THERE IS NO ONE MORE QUALIFIED OR HAS MORE INTEGRITY TO DO A COST STUDY LIKE THE ONE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.

YOU ALSO HEARD COMPLAINTS THAT SOMEHOW PROPANE IS A CLEAN FUEL. THAT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. PROPANE IS A FOSSIL FUEL T LEAKS IN MANY WEIGHS BECAUSE IT'S DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IN THE LEAKAGE. THE RESEARCH HAS NOT DONE DONE BECAUSE PROPANE I AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. I HOPE THE PEOPLE ARE NOT TOO ANGRY [BUZZARD] >> THANK YOU. BRICE FOLLOWED BY AMY RIDER. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NIEM BRICE PATTERSON I'M CEO OF ASSOCIATED PROPANE AND WE SERVICE THE SANTA ROSA AREA. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION ON PROPANE. WIND, SOLAR AND RENEWABLE PROPANE WILL ALL HAVE TO FACTOR IN THE EQUATION ON HOW TO COMBAT ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL ISSUES OF OUR TIME.

AS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, OVER TWO MILLION PEOPLE WERE IMPACT ASKED MANY O THOSE WHO LIVE IN ALL ELECTRIC HOMES AND DRIVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES WERE STRANDED WITH NO POWER AND NO TRANSPORTATION. BY GOING ALL ELECTRIC, YOUR PUTTING ALL OF YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET AND PUTTING AN A STRAIN IN ALREADY UNRELIABLE ELECTRIC. JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, PG&E CEO ADVISED THAT IT COULD TAKE TEN YEARS TO FULLY STRENGTHEN THE GRID TO THE POINT WHERE SHUT OFFS ARE MINIMUM. THIS COMMUNITY CONDITION AFFORD TO HAVE INTERRUPTED POWER FOR TEN YEARS. PROPANE CUSTOMERS HAVE RELIABLE POWER. WE HEARD FROM COUNTLESS PROPANE USERS HOW HAPPY THEY WERE TO FOR THEIR PROPANE POWER.

I WISH TO SHARE A DUP COUPLE OF PROPANE SHARES AND TESTIMONIALS. A CUSTOMER GEORGE QUOTE, LAST YEAR AFTER I WAS OUT OF POWER FOR SIX YEARS. I BAULT A GENERATOR TO RUN MY WHOLE HOUSE AND I FEEL LIKE I'M PART OF CIVILIZATION NOW THAT MY POWER IS OUT. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH PG&E AND THEIR LACK OF CARE IF THEY WITH POWER.

I WANTED A CLEAN FUEL. I WANTED TO HAVE MY COMMUTER AS I NEEDED INFORMATION. I'M AN ENGINEER AND I NEED THE INFORMATION — ~>> THANK YOU, AMY. >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M A LOCAL ENERGY AND SUSTAINABILITY CONSULTANT. AND I JUST WANTED RERATE WHAT YOU SAED VICE MAYOR ROGERS THAT ALL ELECTRIC IS CHEAPER, CLEANER AND SAFER AND BETTER FOR THE CLIMATE. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUMMARY OF THAT. I DON'T SEE IT A DOWN SIDE HRE AND IN FACT, WE KNOW WE'RE IN A CLIMATE CRISIS AND MORE THAN ANYTHING WHY WOULD WE WANT TO CONTRIBUTE FURTHER TO IT. I SEE THIS AS A SIMPLE FIRST STEP TO NO LONGER CONTRIBUTE TO THE AS THE FIRST STEP OF TAKE THE FOOT OFF THE ACCELERATING BEFORE WE CAN SLOW DOWN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ON THIS ISSUE. GO AHEAD, MAKE SURE YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF. >> I'M MIKE TURJENT FRIENDS OF THE ACTION PLAN. THANK YOU VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WANT TO THANK THE BUILDERS IN PARTICULAR FOR WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS HELPING OUR VICTIMS FROM THE TUBS FIRE TO REBUILD IN SUCH A RESPONSIBLE AND DILIGENT WAY. SXL I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR COMING THIS YEAR FOR ELEVATING THE CRISIS TO A TIER 1 AND INVESTIGATING ALL THE ANGLES IT'S BEEN QUITE A SLOG TO GET THERE. THE ARGUMENT RIGHT SIDE PRETTY KOEJENT FOR 1990, 2010 PERHAPS. BUT WE HAVE NO TIME LEFT. METHANE WHAT WE'RE LEARN ABOUTING IT, IS THIS SEEMS A SMALL STEP BUT IT'S A STEP AND WE'VE COME QUITE THIS FAR AND THIS WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF MANY DIFFICULT DECISION THAT'S WILL BE MADE.

BUT WE COUNT ON THE COUNCIL TO TAKE THE BROADEST VIEW POSSIBLE ON KEEPING OUR CITIZENS SAFE AND THERE IS NO BROWDER VIEW. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR, ANYBODY ELSE? >> HELLO I'M JUSTIN GLOVER, I'M A REFSED PATLUNA AND PRACTICING ARCHITECT. THE MAIN POINT I WANT TO MAKE SHEER AFTER HEARING THE PRIOR COMMENTS IS JUST THAT, WE HAVE ONE BIG GLOBAL PROBLEM. AND THAT'S THE CLIMATE CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. AND THIS WHOLE EFFORT, ESPECIALLY ON A STATE BASE BY SETTING THESE EMISSION GOALS, THIS TARGET IS THROUGH THE CODE AND THROUGH THEM ANDING LOCAL JURISDICTIONS LIKE YOU TO ADDRESS THE REACH CODES TO GET TO THE BIG PROBLEM. THE BIG PROBLEM IS THEN CREATING SMALLER PROBLEMS LIKE THE FIRES AND FLOODING AND HURRICANES AND OTHER THINGS. SO THESE ISSUES OF HEY, LET'S DEAL WITH THE SMALLER PROBLEM AS A RESULT OF THE BIGGER PRFNLT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BASE LEVEL ARGUMENT. YOU HAVE TO SAY WHAT IS THE BIG PROBLEM THAT IS CAUSING ALL THE OTHER ISSUES.

I THINK THAT IS VERY CLEAR. AND I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS THE COUNCIL THAT THIS, THIS PIECE IS REALLY ON YOUR SHOULDERS. THE STATE HAS SET THE GOALS AND GIVEN A STATEMENT THAT HAS NOT GOENT THERE. SO WE CAN ACHIEVE THE EMISSION GOALS. SO I, IN ADDITION TO COMING HERE TONIGHT, I'VE GONE THROUGH A FEW OTHER JURISDICTIONS AROUND THE STATE SIMILAR MEETINGS LIKE THIS. AND ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT THERE IS, THERE ARE A LOT OF JURISDICTION THAT'S ARE CONSIDERING THIS OPTION. AND A LOT ARE GOING TO LOOK TO SANTA ROSA FOR LEADERSHIP AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO BE A LEADER AND PROOF TO THAT IN THE CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL. COUNCILMEMBER COMBS, I APOLOGIZE I FORGOT TO ASK IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPENED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THANK YOU I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THEM BEFORE WE GO ON. AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS TO US OVERTIME. I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT A LONG TIME AND I APPRECIATE IT COMING FORWARD.

CAN ANYONE IN SANTA ROSA HAVE A PROPANE GAS GRILL THAT THEY USE OUTSIDE UNDER THIS CODE? DOES THIS CODE BAN HAVING A GAS GRILL OUTSIDE? >> THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT AFFECT THE INSTALLATION OF PROPANE APPLIANCES IF YOU USE PORTABLE PROPANE CYLINDER. >> SO YOU USE THE TANKS CYLINDERS. STHAZ TRUE IF YOU HAVE A GAS GENERATOR AND YOU HAVE A PORTABLE TANK? >> CORRECT. : >> IT COULD. AND IT DOES NOT PROHIBIT THE INSTALLATION OF A LARGER PROPANE FOR GENERATOR.

IT DOES NOT LIMIT THE GENERATORS. >> IN MY HOME IN SANTA ROSA, I RECENTLY INSTALLED AN INDUCTION COOK TOP AND IM REALLY HAPPY WITH IT. IN MY SECOND HOME IN ECUADOR, I HAVE A PROPANE GAS COOK TOP THAT WAS IN THE HOUSE THAT I'M IN WHEN I MOVED INTO IT. AND THE IT'S FILLED BY A TANK. AND THERE WAS RECENTLY A STRIKE HERE ON TRANSIT STRIKE, TRANSPORTATION WORKERS WENT ON STRIKE AND BLOCKED TE ROADS AND THE CANISTERS COULD NOT BE DELIVERED. SO WHILE I'M HEARING ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH ELECTRICITY, WE SHOULD NOT BE MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PROPANE DELIVERY AS WELL BECAUSE, WE JUST, EXPERIENCED A WEEKEND OF NO PROPANE DELIVERY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE RAN OUT OF PROPANE HERE.

SO THERE ARE SOME ADVANTAGES TO EX PANDING ONE'S HORIZONS WITH TRAVEL. I WOULD SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE REACH CODE. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE FRIENDS OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN FOR THEIR HELP IN EDUCATING AND MAKING SURE TAT WE UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS OF WHAT OUR CLIMATE ACTION CALLS ON US TO DO. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE WE PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSS. THE MOTION COMING FROM THE CLIMATE ACTION SUBCOMMITTEE WAS TO ADOPT THE REACH CODES. COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION. >> YES SO TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO MOTIONS BEFORE US. I'LL START WITH INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE AND WAIT FWOER A SECOND. ADOPTING WITH REFERENCE WITH LOCAL AMENDMENTS.

AND WAIVE FURTHER READING OF THE TEXT. >> SECOND. >> I'M GOING TO START AT THIS END. COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS? >> ONE QUESTION I HAVE FOR STAFF IS WE WERE GETTING SOME COMMENTS ABOUT PROPANE VERSUS NATURAL GAS AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION THAT COUNCILMEMBER COMBS ASKED IN REGARDS TO PROPANE IN THE BACK YARD. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. WE DO NOT RUN PROPANE THROUGH OUR APPLIANCES AT HOME, THAT'S NATURAL GAS? >> TYPICALLY WE USE NATURAL GAS IN INCORPORATED AREA.

>> AND PRENATURAL GAS IS GAS THAT INCLUDES PROPANE. DO WE UNDERSTAND THAT TO BE TRUES. I HOPE I'M NOT GETTING TOO DEEP. I WANT TO DEBUNK THIS A LITTLE BIT. WHEN I HEARD THAT I PROPANE IS A CLEAN FUEL THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S EPHANE AND OH GOSH, BUTANE WHICH I THINK ARE MORE REFINE FUELS THAT ARE CLEANER BURNING.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NATURAL GAS. FOR ME, THIS IS I'M TRYING TO FIND A REASON WHY NOT, I HAVE NOT HEARD FOLKS WHO ARE, IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE STATE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WERE HIGHER AND IF IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT, I'LL BE INTERESTED IN HEARING IT. BUT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE RESEARCH OF OUR STAFF RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE, COMING FROM EPIRICAL SOURCES INCLUDING THE ENERGY COMMISSION. I'M HEARING THAT IT'S CHEAPER TO BUILD, IT'S GREATER COST SAVINGS FOR THE RESIDENT OVER A 30-YEAR MORTGAGE. IT EXEMPT FIRE REBUILDS WIZ WE CAN ALL AGREE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNCIL. AND TO ME, I THINK SLIDE 8 WAS PERHAPS THE MOST COMPELLING AND THAT'S THE FACT THAT BY TAKE THISING ACTION, IT'S 1.9 MILLION TONS OR METRIC TONS? >> METRIC. >> THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. 1.9 METRIC TONS LESS THAN THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, I LIKE TO DRIVE A 1989 THAT GETS ABOUT 8 MILES TO THE GALLON.

BUT MY NEXT TRUCK WAS DODGE TRUCK 2400 DIESEL, LIKE WHERE THAT'S GOING. I'M GOING T GET AN ELECTRIC TRUCK. IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. BUT I DO CHANGE THAT IT'S THE CHANGE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS MEASURE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT MY COLLEAGUES THINK. >> COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING? >> I'LL COME DOWN. >> COUNCILMEMBER OLIVARES. >> THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE EXEMPTION FOR THE REBUILD, I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. A LOT OF GOOD RESEARCH AND THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE SLIDE 8 THAT GRAVITATED FOR ME AS WELL. FOR ME IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I THINK THIS IS IT'S A SMALL STEP AND ALSO A FIRST STEP. AND FOR ME, I'M LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE.

NOT NECESSARILY FOR OUR MY LIFE BUT FOR WHAT IS GOING TO BE MY GRANDCHILDREN'S LIFE, TEY'RE FOUR AND SIX YEARS OLD AND IT'S LOOKING FOR WHAT THE WORLD WILL LOOK LIKE FOR ME. I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY NOT TO SUPPORT THIS. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAWYER. >> THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. WAS PROPANE EVALUATED AS FAR AS ITS, AS A COMPROMISE OR AN OPTION AS OPPOSED TO SAYING NO? I HAVE NOT HEARD, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING. I DIDN'T RAD ANYTHING ABOUT PROPANE OR HAVE RECEIVED A FAIR NUMBER OF EMAILS. AND THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A SINGLE ENERGY SOLUTION AND WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THE DANGER OF METHANE IN OUR ATMOSPHERE, AND I, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS LACK OF ENERGY DIVERSITY WHEN I SEE WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE SHUT OFFS, IT DOES CONCERN ME. SO I'M WONDERING, WHAT WS EVALUATED AS FAR AS PROPANE.

>> SO PROPANE WAS INCLUDED IN THE EVALUATION WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE THREE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES. WHICH IS THE ELECTRIC READY WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE PROPANE. AND WE LOOKED AT ELECTRIC FAVOR WHICH WOULD ALLOW PROPANE AS AN OPTION AND ELECTRIC REACH WHICH ELIMINATED GAS AND PROPANE. PROPANE WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION ON THE FIRST TWO AND THAT'S WHEN IT WAS TALKED ABOUT. >> OKAY. SO I'LL TELL YOU WHERE I'M COMING FROM. AND I DON'T HVE CHILDREN BUT MY, I DO HAVE GREAT NIECES AND NEPHEWS.

THE DECISION THAT WE DIFFERENT WITH THEY'LL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IN THE FUTURE. AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE EVIL CREATURE IN THE ROOM IS METHANE AND PROPANE DOES NOT CONTAIN METHANE AT LEAST IN AN AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE DAMAGING TO OUR ENVIRONMENT. SO I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SAYING NO, TO ENERGY DIVERSITY. AND I'M JUST, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS BECAUSE, IHAVE, I HAVE NATURAL GAS AT HOME.

AND IT ALLOWED ME TO HAVE A REASONABLY NORMAL EXISTENCE DURING THE POWER SHUT OFFS. HAD I HAD PROPANE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EJOY THE USE OF THAT. AND ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE AS FAR AS THE ENVIRONMENT. SO I'M, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME ELIMINATING PROPANE AS AN OPTION. AND IUNDERSTAND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE. AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S A TO ME, A LITTLE UNFORTUNATE THAT IT WAS, THAT IT WAS DISMISSED OUT OF HAND AND THE ELECTRIC REACH WAS 'EM BRAIDS COMPLETELY WITHOUT OFFERING A THIS DIVERSITY THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR HOMEOWNERS AND THE COMMUNITY.

SO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHERE MY FINGER IS GOING T GO ON THIS THE BOARD. WHEN I VOTE BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN OPTION. IT'S SO MY OPTION HAS BEEN REMOVED. AND BY SAYING KNOXER I'M SENDING A MESSAGE THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEND AND IF I SAY YES, I'M ELIMINATING THAT ENERGY. SO I'M CONFLICTED. SO I HAVE SECONDS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. >> COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING? >> YES, SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THE ROBUST COMMUNITY OUT REACH AND FOR, YOU KNOW, ON BOTH SIDES THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME FORWARD TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT I IMPORTANT TO THEM.

AND I THINK THAT I MADE NO BONES WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT MY CHILD HAS A SAFE PLACE THAT SHE CAN LIVE. AND I'M INCREASING CONCERNED THAT I MAY NOT GET TO A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE IN MY LIFETIME. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAIR CONCERNS ABOUT PROPANE BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS SOLID RESEARCH WHILE IT'S CLEAN, THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH ITS COMBUSTION AND THEY'RE WELL DOCUMENTED AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET INTO THAT TONIGHT.

THAT WAS NOT THE CHARGE. BUT THE OTHER THINSING THAT I WOULD ADD IS ONE OF THE CRITICISM SOUTH SIDE THIS WOULD GET US ONE OR TWO PERCENT TOWARDS OUR GOLDS. BUT ONE OR TWO PERCENT IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT. ONE OR TWO PERCENT IS GOOD. AND WE NEED TO GO AROUND COLLECTING ONE OR TWO PERCENT IN EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY WE IS. I SETTLED FOR LESS. THAT'S WHERE I'LL BE GOING WITH THIS ONE. >> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. THERE WAS A CMMENT THAT WAS MADE IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THIS IS TOO MUCH, YOU HAVE UNCILMEMBER COMBS DO – ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER? SHE MIGHT BE ON MUTE.

>> I DID CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS FOR THE MOST PART. I DIDN'T FEEL THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE OUT OF HAND. I THINK WE'VE BEEN REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE FOR A WHILE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH VICE MAYOR FOR MOVING US FORWARD. >> OKAY, GREAT. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT THERE WAS A COMMENT ON PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE SOMEBODY SAID THIS WAS TOO MUCH FOR TOO LITTLE. AND HIGH LIGHTING WHAT COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING JUST SAID. I HESITATE TO THINK IF PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT LITTLE REFORMS WERE TOO LITTLE FOR TO US DO IT. THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A REASON TO SAY NO. PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE. THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME OBSTACLE THAT WILL REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL POLICY OPTION. AND MOST HOMES THAT WILL APPLY TO ARE GOING TO HAVE A SOLAR REQUIREMENT BY THE STATE.

SO EVEN AS SOMETHING AS ADDING A BATTERY BACK UP, MAKES THAT MORE MORE RESILIENT AND MORE DESIRABLE FOR YOUNG HOME BUYERS. LET ME TELL YOU, I KNOW THAT ONE. WE SAW THOUSANDS OF NEXT GENERATION MARCHING IN THE STREETS DEMANDING THOSE WHO WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, GET OFF THEIR BUTTS AND DO IT. AND THEY WERE ASK WHAT INCONVENIENCES WE WERE GOING TO DO, FOR TEM TO HAVE A FUTURE. AND SOME WERE ASKING WHAT IT'S LIKE TO COOK ON GAS STOVE. I CANNOT COOK ON EITHER SO THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO ME. THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT HAS FELT THE STING OF CIMATE CHANGE AND ALSO A COMMUNITY THAT IS NOT GOING TO SHRINK AWAY FROM ITS RESPONSIBILITY TO DO OUR PART TO MAKE SURE THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES DO NOT SUFFER THEIR FATE. I'M HPPY TO CAST MY VOTE TODAY AND MOVE THIS FORWARD. SXL MOVE THIS FORWARD. MADAM CITY CLERK DO YOU WANT TO CALL THE ROLL? >> THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR ROGERS? >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER COMBS? >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING? >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER OLIVARES.

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAWYER? >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS? >> AYE. >> SO COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING YOU HAVE A SECOND MOTION. >> IN DEED, THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. I MOVE THE RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL SETTING A TIME AND PLACE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED ADOPTION BY REFERENCE OF THE 2019 CALIFORNIA ENERGY CODE CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS 24, PART 6 ALL ELECTRIC LOW RISE REACH CODE AND WAIVE FURTHER READING OF THE TEXT. >> SECOND. >> SORRY, I CANNOT READ YOUR FINGERS. 12.3? >> OKAY, SO WE'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE. THAT WILL WILL BE ON DECEMBER 3. >> CAN WE CLARIFY THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY POSITIONED FOR THE 19th. >> WE'RE GOING TO GET THE ATTORNEYS SOLVED SO THIS IS GO B TO GET REALLY COMPLICATED. GO AHEAD SUE. >> IF THE IDEA THAT WE WANT TO PAIR THIS UP WITH THE RETURN OF BUILDING AND FIRE CODES, THE DATE FOR THE FIRE CODES HAVE NOT YET BEEN DETERMINED.

THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR DECEMBER THIRD, THE EFFECT WILL BE THAT THIS WILL GO INTO EFFECT. IF IT'S APPROVED ON DECEMBER 3rd. >> WE'LL GIVE THE CITY MANAGER A FEW MINUTES. >> I THOUGHT MOST CODES CAME INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY FIRST. SO I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFICATION. >> THE PATH I WAS GOING TO TAKE US DOWN IS NOT NECESSARY.

I THINK STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO REMAIN NEXT WEEK. AND I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. >> OKAY. SO CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION PLEASE. >> ABSOLUTELY. SO I MOVE A RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF CITY OF SANTA ROSA SETTING A TIME FOR NEXT WEEK, 11/19 AND PLACE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED ADOPTION BY REFERENCE OF THE 2019 CALIFORNIA EERGY CODE, CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS TITLE 22, PART 6, ALL ELECTRIC LOW RISE RESIDENTIAL REACH CODE AND WAIVE FURTHER READING. >> SECOND. >> EXCELLENT. MADAM CLERK? >> VICE MAYOR ROGERS. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER COMBS? >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER FLEMING? >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER OLIVARES. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAWYER. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS? >> AYE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE WILL MOVE ON NOW, ITEM 14.4 HAS BEEN MOVED TO NEXT WEEK.

SO WE'LL DISCUSS IT THEN. ITEM 15.1, THERE IS A LETTER IN YOUR PACKETS. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CARDS FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION? THANK YOU. YES. >> I'S AFTER MIDNIGHT MY TIME AND I'M GOING TO HANG UP. THANK YOU FOR RUNNING THE MEETING SO HE FEBRUARYING TIFFLY. ABSOLUTELY YOU HAVE A GOOD ONE. SO WE HAVE MAGGIE O'BRIEN WHO I BELIEVE HAS LEFT. BRENDA? SEEING NOBODY RISE. ALEX, GO AHEAD. YOU'LL HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES. >> IS THERE A TIMER? >> IT SHOULD POP UP ON THE SCREEN. I'LL TELL YOU, I'LL COUNT.

>> OKAY. GREAT. THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I JUST WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, AGAIN ABOUT THE 5G, 4G AND I KNOW WE'RE HAVING A STUDY SESSION ON THE DECEMBER 10. BUT SINCE FEBRUARY 24, 2017 WHEN ERIC CITY EMPLOYEE CAME IN WITH VERIZON AND HAD YOU CHANGE YOUR POLICY AND HAD THEM INSTALL THIS WHERE EVER THEY WANTED, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ACCURATE WITH THEIR INFORMATION TO YOU GUYS. AND THAT CONTINUED INTO THE STUDY SESSION. LET ALONE THAT OVER 60 OF THE TWO PROPOSED WERE GOING TO BE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS. MONTGOMERY HIGH SCHOOL, THEY DENIED A HIGH SCHOOL TOWER EARLIER, BUT VERIZON PUT ONE ACROSS THE STREET. THEY RAN RACKED TLUT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY COULD. AND HERE'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE PUTTING 5G INPHA SFRUK TOUR, WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECTOR HERE, THAT'S IRONIC. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ERIC SAID LAST YEAR AND THAT RUBBED ME THE WRONG WAY WHEN TRYING TO SQUASH PEOPLE'S FEARS, WHEN PUTTING THESE A PEOPLE SAID.

>> BECAUSE THE ANTENNA RADIATE. THEY GENERATE SO IRONICALLY IF YOU'RE UNDER THE POSSIBLISINGER YOU GET LESS RADIATION THAN IF YOU'RE A BLOCK AWAY BECAUSE IT'S ABOVE YOUR HEAD. SO THERE IS NO WAY THAT IT RADIATES BOW LOW YOUR HEAD. HERE'S THE REALITY. [RECORDING] HERE WE ARE ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE SAME CELL PHONE TOWER. AND WE ARE AT LEVELS STILL VERY HIGH BUT BELOW 2000. >> ANYWAY I CAN GO ON AND ON IN OVER 20 THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED SO FAR. THEY'RE VERY POWERFUL RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE ANTENNA. THEY'RE NOT 100 WATTS LIKE THEY TOLD YOU. THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THE RADIOS ARE EACH 100 WATTS BUT THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM AND BY THE TIME IT'S AMPLIFIED, THE ANTENNA CAN PUT OUT OVER 4,000 WATTS. YOU WANT TO BE A GREEN CITY, THE CARBON FOOTPRINT TO CARBON FOOTPRINT OF THAT. NOBODY IS ASKING THAT. SOY HOPE THE CITY ATTORNEY IS PREF' PREVIEW T THE RESENT APPEALS THE 9th CIRCUIT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. AND WITH THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED..

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